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Managing the Digital and Analog Duality

January 04, 2016 / 08:01

This episode discusses digital transformation, customer-centric strategies, and innovation in traditional companies. Key topics include the varying perceptions of digital among IT, operations, and business leaders, the importance of co-creation with customers, and the dual mode of operation in large organizations.

The conversation highlights the different interpretations of digital by various stakeholders, such as IT professionals focusing on technology, operations personnel emphasizing user experience, and business leaders seeking new models. This reflects a broader understanding of the digital landscape and the pressures traditional companies face.

Co-creation is emphasized as a crucial strategy for solving customer problems. The speaker explains how working closely with customers leads to better solutions, contrasting this with traditional service models that may not align with customer needs.

Examples of innovation include creating a culture of experimentation through initiatives like Next Labs, which involves rapid prototyping and collaboration with startups. This approach allows for flexibility and adaptation in developing solutions.

The episode also introduces the concept of corporate startups, where teams operate independently to tackle complex problems, leveraging access to customer insights and startup technology. This dual approach aims to balance traditional services with innovative digital solutions.

TL;DR

The episode covers digital transformation strategies, co-creation with customers, and innovation in traditional companies.

Episode

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there is a clear understanding among our
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customer base that their digital world
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is changing and changing rapidly but if
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you ask them about digital you get
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different answers depending on who you
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ask in some sense it's like the old
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Indian parable of the five blind men and
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the elephant you ask the IT folk he will
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tell you that digital is all about
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technology social media analytics cloud
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now if you go to the operations guy and
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you ask him he'll tell you it's about
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recreating the one click amazon
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experience and if you go to the business
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guy they say oh it's about creating new
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business models like what uber us so you
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get very different answer depending on
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who you ask about digital but one thing
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is very clear they all understand that
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the consumer behavior is changing and
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their customers are asking for the same
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experience that they get from a google
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of facebook or an amazon and that's
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forcing these traditional analog
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companies to change the second thing is
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that most of the leadership team is
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aware that disruption are going to
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happen and the disruption for a hundred
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year old bank is not going to come from
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a bang down the street but it's going to
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come from somewhere in the Silicon
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Valley so that understanding is there so
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there's a clear understanding of the
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challenges posed by digital they think
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the digital revolution is real but their
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approaches vary depending on the
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customer and the maturity of that
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response also varies
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when the digital world is changing and
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changing rapidly one of the good things
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about that is you see always the next
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big thing and you get tempted to do the
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next big thing and it's a small company
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if I start following the next big thing
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we might get disoriented and might lose
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focus so what we did what we did was
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very simple we said we're going to make
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the customer the axis of our
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transformation and by that what we mean
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is that we said we will hinge our entire
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digital transformation story on our
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ability to make our customers successful
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in the earth digital transformation
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journey so what this means is
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immediately is that we have to solve
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real problems or oil customers and also
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meant that we have to start solving
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these problems by creating those
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solutions with our customers and
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secondly the other important thing that
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we needed to do is we are currently a
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large company providing traditional
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services we also needed to start acting
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in this duel mode what we need to
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continue to provide digital sorry
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traditional services but also start
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providing digital services and they are
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very different services
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in the digital world problems I have to
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be solved along with the custom and the
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reason being that if you do not
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understand the customer's context in
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which they're trying to solve the
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problem you will end up building a
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solution which may not work for a
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specific customer so what we do is that
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we work with the customer and
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identifying certain challenges then we
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go back to the customer saying here are
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five different ways you could solve this
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problem which one appeals to which one
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will help you solve it for your customer
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which means that we'll have to bring in
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not just new technology we have to bring
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in the best of be partners we have to
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bring a good understanding of the domain
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and how the problem needs to be solved
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and and finally we have to make sure
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that we are keeping our customers
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customer in mind when you solve those
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problems so co-creating co-creation
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means that you're basically sitting down
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with a customer and solving the problem
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with him it's if you ask me it's
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opposite of field of dreams approach
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which as you build they will come
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if you look at the traditional services
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model and you look at the attributes of
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a traditional service model there are
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three attributes one there's a fit for
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purpose they've been defined with a very
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specific purpose in mind they also are
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very reliable and they are designed for
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performance and secondly the culture in
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which those traditional service are
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executed also very different in that you
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have to define very well defined
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processes and these processes need to be
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adhered to there needs to be a proper
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governance to make sure these processes
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idea to and the kind of people we need
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our people who can do continuous
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improvements to the service levels you
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come to the digital world completely
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different your mantras are speed agility
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and innovation you need a completely
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different org you need a completely
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different kind of talent for example
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I'll tell you three things we are doing
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in our environment number one we have
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created this culture of experimentation
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by creating a group called next labs
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it's a bunch of PhDs and their Co
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creating the next generation solutions
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with our customers and most of these
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solutions may see the light of the day
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some of them may not like I mentioned
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earlier we may take five solution of the
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customer they're all rapidly prototyped
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and the customer just may pick one and
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the less for might never see the light
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of the day and they have a fail in a
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traditional model that scene is a very
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expensive way to build a service but in
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the digital model they've seen as the
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best way to get the right solution with
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a customer second example we have
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creating a ecosystem of startups in the
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silicon I'm from the Silicon Valley so
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every other Friday we bring a start-up
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in and they talk to us about what's
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going on in the technology world how
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they're building building new solutions
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and more often than not you find that
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they've got very good ideas excellent
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technology great talent but they're not
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solving real problems so when we come in
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and we look at a problem that you're
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trying to solve for a customer we see if
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this startup technology can be adapted
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and adopted for this particular problem
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then we are really making my so we have
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run through a lot of startups before you
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find the right one for us to work with
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so we're slowly but steadily creating
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mad ecosystem of startups that can help
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us build the next generation
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an example of how we are getting the
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experimentation culture lastly a very
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interesting and important concept which
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our CEO calls caught up which is nothing
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but a corporate startup the idea here is
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that if the problem is complex enough
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that requires a little bit of extensive
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focus and and talent is signed it for a
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period of time because you need to
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really think through the solution and
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you can rapidly prototype you need to
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carve it out and if the problem is big
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enough that the customers feel that
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needs to be solved you need a carver
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team out and that team in our
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environment operates completely
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differently they completely operate like
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a start-up they have different real
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estate different HR policies different
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compensation model based on risk and
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reward as opposed to a traditional model
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which is based on company performance so
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the completely the model that we set up
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is just like a start-up except that I
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mentioned the problem that the small
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startups have in the Silicon Valley they
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don't have access to customers but these
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card ups they have access to our
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customers and we have access to their
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technology so it's a very symbiotic
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relationship that we filled with these
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card ops with you and running is still
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in stealth mode so I'm not ready to
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disclose what they do for so going back
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to the duel mode we're really trying to
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see whether we can operate one part of
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the company and continue to improve on
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the traditional service that we give our
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customers while the other side what
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we're trying to do is to create this
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environment where experimentation in
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solution building is seamlessly built
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into the culture of the organization and
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that dual mode is is not easy thing to
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do we're trying it as if you succeed or
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not
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you

Episode Highlights

  • Understanding Digital Transformation
    Different stakeholders have varying definitions of digital, but all recognize changing consumer behavior.
    “It's like the old Indian parable of the five blind men and the elephant.”
    @ 00m 18s
    January 04, 2016
  • Customer-Centric Transformation
    The focus of digital transformation should be on solving real problems for customers.
    “We will hinge our entire digital transformation story on our ability to make our customers successful.”
    @ 02m 00s
    January 04, 2016
  • Creating a Culture of Experimentation
    A new culture of experimentation is being fostered through initiatives like Next Labs.
    “We have created this culture of experimentation by creating a group called Next Labs.”
    @ 04m 41s
    January 04, 2016

Episode Quotes

  • The digital revolution is real, but approaches vary.
    Managing the Digital and Analog Duality
  • Co-creation means sitting down with a customer and solving the problem together.
    Managing the Digital and Analog Duality
  • In the digital world, speed, agility, and innovation are key.
    Managing the Digital and Analog Duality
  • We're slowly but steadily creating a mad ecosystem of startups.
    Managing the Digital and Analog Duality

Key Moments

  • Digital Disruption01:05
  • Customer-Centric Approach02:00
  • Co-Creation03:34
  • Experimentation Culture04:41
  • Startup Ecosystem05:56

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