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How Can Online Advertisers Get the Most Mileage for Their Money?

July 27, 2015 / 09:53

This episode discusses online advertising attribution, focusing on last click attribution versus paying for ad exposures. Guest Ron presents his research findings on the efficiency of these methods.

Ron explains the last click attribution method, where the last ad seen by a consumer gets credit for a sale. He argues that this method can create competition among publishers that may not benefit advertisers.

He highlights that paying for ad exposures is often more profitable than paying commissions on sales, which contradicts common advertiser beliefs. Ron emphasizes the need for careful experimentation to evaluate the effectiveness of different attribution methods.

Additionally, he addresses misconceptions about retargeting ads, stating that they may not be as effective as believed since consumers who add items to their cart are likely to purchase regardless of the ads.

Ron suggests a new approach to testing attribution methods, advocating for transparency among companies that offer these services to better understand which methods truly work.

TL;DR

Ron discusses online advertising attribution, revealing that paying for ad exposures is often more profitable than last click attribution.

Episode

9:53
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and so my research deals with online
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advertising attribution and it's easier
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to explain it by giving an example so
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which most consumers actually know so
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let's suppose you went on a brand's
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website let's a gap and you put into a
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shopping cart a shirt and you didn't buy
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the shirt and you don't continue to
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surfing the internet what would happen
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typically that you'll start seeing ads
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for the same shirt again and again and
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again on every website now the question
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from the advertiser's perspective which
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is gaps gaps retail is if in the end the
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consumer did buy the shirt how do you
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measure the effectiveness of each one of
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those ad exposures the consumer head and
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this is called attribution problem now
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what most advertisers do today is they
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use something called less touch
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attribution or last click attribution
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and the idea is very simple if me is a
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consumer and I saw let's say 17
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different ads and 17 different websites
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and then purchase the product the last
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ad they saw before purchasing the
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product is going to get all of the
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credit for this sale ok and motley me
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research is trying to do is you trying
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to determine is this method efficient or
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not and what is this impact of this
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method on different types of advertisers
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and different types of publishers in the
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online marketplace
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in my research what I try to say is I
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try to ask is this last click method
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which is used by the majority of
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advertisers efficient and why do they
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use this method because it's a bit
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counterintuitive why would they look
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only the last add that the person sees
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and what I do is I compared two types of
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compensation schemes which are used on
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line one is paying for every exposure of
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an ad being seen and one is paying just
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for every sale like a commission on a
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sale that the publisher gets from the
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advertiser so my key takeaway is that
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actually paying for exposures is more
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efficient and more profitable for the
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advertisers than paying a commission on
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sales she's very counterintuitive much
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people think if you compensate a sales
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person you should pick them a commission
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only when they make sales and not when
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they show off work but if you compensate
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a publisher let's say Facebook and you
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can pay Facebook for just showing the
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ads or actually generating sales
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actually my key takeaway is that paying
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for showing an ads is more efficient and
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more profitable for the advertiser the
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reason being is that if you have more
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than one publisher let's say Facebook
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and Google are competing what you will
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see is that there is going to be free
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writing when one of them on the other so
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because of this class click method are
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going to compete among one another etc
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and one of them is going to claim
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they're gonna be very very very
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efficient although maybe to just show
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the last ads etc so this is one key
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takeaway the second one is that the last
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click method creates this competition
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between publishers that creates kind of
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a race to try and cheat the advertiser
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out of money which is a bit strange but
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the best way to explain it is just to
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try and think what would you do if I
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told you that the last add your show
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gets the commission and you know a
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consumer comes to your website and
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there's a high probability the consumer
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is going to buy the product and there's
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another consumer that comes to the
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website and you don't know if the
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consumer is going to buy the product to
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which consumer will you show that you
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will show that the consumer is going to
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buy anyway and just bomb the consumer
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with ads to try to be the last one so
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the other key takeaway is that when
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you're using last click or last touch
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methods all of the measurements and all
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of the metrics you're getting are going
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to be maximized you're going to get a
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lot of sales through a lot of channels
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and publishers but maybe they didn't
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cause
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any of those sales or just happen to be
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the last ones
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so the first conclusion which surprised
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me what actually that paying for
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impressions or exposures is more
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profitable than paying for commissions
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because if you ask any advertiser online
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they say I want to pay only Commission I
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went apparently when sales are being
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generated and also this was my intuition
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when I started this research and this
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was very surprising to find and when I
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tell this even to managers and
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executives today they basically don't
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believe me although I can show them the
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math and show that it just works the
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other surprising finding was that last
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click and last touch is not necessarily
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a bad method per se under some
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conditions it increases the profits of
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the advertisers but these conditions are
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quite limited so if you ask advertisers
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why do you use last click and last touch
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typically they say it's just the best
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method they know so far but I can show
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that if it happens that your campaign
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has these specific conditions it's
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actually better to use last touch this
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conditions are very specific is
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typically when the first ad has the
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biggest impact so there's a huge impact
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to the first ad and not that not that
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many to the other ones and consumers
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don't visit the websites too often then
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the last click method is very very
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efficient
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one takeaway you can take is that
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realizing that whatever attribution
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method you're going to use over time the
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publishers are going to learn how to
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maximize this metric so even if you told
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the publishers I'm going to compensate
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you according to who runs the fastest
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someone will be the fastest runner and
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they're going to be the best maximized
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method so the idea is to try and sit
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down with the publishers and with the
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company you're using for doing
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attribution and try to think is the
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model that they're using makes sense so
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does the model make sense to my
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consumers and the other thing you need
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to do is you need to be very carefully
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design an experiment and say what would
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happen when using a new attribution
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method and what would happen without
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using it you can just move to a new
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method see all of the metrics maximized
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and say oh I just made more money
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because probably this isn't correct
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so one interesting misperception it's
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there's these ads color retargeting ads
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these are very specific ads that you
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only start seeing them after you put
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let's say a product in the shopping bag
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it in the industry they believe these
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ads are very very useful and actually
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are are very good at reminding the
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consumer to come back to let's say gaps
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website and purchase this shirt that
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consumer was pondering to purchase and
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my research showed that actually most of
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these retargeting ads are probably very
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inefficient and have no impact on the
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consumers the only thing is that they're
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being shown last before purchase because
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if a consumer went to a website and put
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something in the shopping cart there's
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much higher probability the consumer is
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going to buy the product anyway so if
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you start showing that consumer ads
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compared to consumers who just didn't
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visit the website and they didn't put
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anything at the shopping cart it would
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appear you have a huge lift a huge
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increase in sales on those consumers you
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started showing ads too but even if you
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don't show them as they will buy anyway
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that's the point so the misperception is
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basically if you don't run an experiment
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and have a control group and says when
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these consumers who visited my website
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on half of them I do show ads on the
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others I don't show ads and only then I
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measure the difference you're going to
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think that retargeting is a very very
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useful channel and typically it or not
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that but not that good
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my method is unique in that I use game
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theory and I actually did mostly in
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analytical and theoretical analysis of
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this problem and only then I tested it
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on the data all of the other research on
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this topic used a very empirical
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approach that took a set of data they
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ran algorithms on it and they try to
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figure out which publisher is better
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than the other one what I try to say is
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I try to say what is the market using
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currently in measurement and
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compensation what would be the
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consequences and can we observe that in
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data and to that I basically found out
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that a lot of the empirical applications
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and measurements are basically incorrect
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they assume that the market is efficient
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in behaving correctly but if you do the
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theoretical analysis you will see that
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you can figure out from the data if the
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market is inefficient or efficient and
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in that case it's not very efficient the
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publishers are basically showing ads to
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consumers that will buy anyway which is
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called adverse selection or essentially
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trying to cheat the publisher while the
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other empirical applications cannot
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differentiate between really showing ads
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to consumers who are influenced to
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consumers who just would buy anyway and
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you kind of stick them with ads to get
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the Commission
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after working on these three shots I
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started getting a lot of communication
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from companies saying hey Ron this is
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very interesting and there's this
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approach that you're suggesting but
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there's at least 10 other companies that
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claim their attribution product is
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better or is the best how do we compare
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how can we even tell which one is better
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etc so one idea i'm trying to push and
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this would be probably with a few
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companies to experiment with is to try
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to build a system where you generate
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advertising data and you try different
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attribution methods and you see which
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one just matches this company type of
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customer and the reason this is
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interesting is that most a tribunal
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companies don't actually publish size a
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lot very transparent about the
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algorithms which are say we have the
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best algorithm and if you give us data
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we can give you the results what we
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won't really tell you what's going on so
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this approach where you kind of test
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through many of them and kind of run a
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competition between all of them is going
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to hopefully tell us which method works
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better or not that we can understand
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this process much much better
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you

Episode Highlights

  • The Attribution Problem
    Exploring how advertisers measure the effectiveness of ad exposures and the challenges involved.
    “This is called the attribution problem.”
    @ 00m 42s
    July 27, 2015
  • Counterintuitive Findings
    Research reveals paying for ad exposures can be more profitable than commission-based models.
    “Paying for exposures is more efficient and profitable for advertisers.”
    @ 01m 51s
    July 27, 2015
  • Inefficiency of Retargeting Ads
    Research shows that many retargeting ads may not effectively influence consumer purchases.
    “Most retargeting ads are probably very inefficient.”
    @ 06m 17s
    July 27, 2015

Episode Quotes

  • Paying for exposures is more efficient and profitable for advertisers.
    How Can Online Advertisers Get the Most Mileage for Their Money?
  • The last click method creates competition that can cheat advertisers.
    How Can Online Advertisers Get the Most Mileage for Their Money?
  • Most retargeting ads are probably very inefficient.
    How Can Online Advertisers Get the Most Mileage for Their Money?

Key Moments

  • Attribution Problem00:42
  • Counterintuitive Findings01:51
  • Retargeting Ads Inefficiency06:17

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