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AI is shifting systems and industries, not just automating tasks.

February 11, 2025 / 01:06

This episode discusses automation versus augmentation, featuring insights from MIT economists Daron Acemoglu and David Autor, and researchers Tim Bresnahan, A.J. Agarwal, Avi Goldfarb, and Joshua Gans.

The conversation highlights the task-based approach proposed by Acemoglu and Autor, which views jobs as bundles of tasks that can be augmented or automated.

In contrast, the systems-level perspective from Bresnahan and his colleagues suggests that significant changes occur at the system level, affecting labor and capital demands.

The episode emphasizes the importance of understanding how companies making large investments can lead to new supply and demand dynamics.

Both frameworks are presented as useful for different questions, with a growing belief in the relevance of the systems view.

TLDR

Automation and augmentation are analyzed through task-based and systems-level perspectives by leading economists.

Episode

1:06
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so there's two general perspectives out there that I think are useful for understanding how that automation versus
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augmentation debate might be going one comes from MIT economists donon asoglu and David otter it's the task-based
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approach we think of a job as a bundle of tasks and we can augment or automate these tasks within those bundles which
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will change the bundles over time another comes from Folks at University of Toronto and Stanford Tim bresnahan at
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Stanford A J agarwall Avi Goldfarb and Joshua Gans at University of Toronto arguing that the change actually happens
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at the system level so when there's enough of a big deal something to invest
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in something to change what we do is reconfigure the entire system and that new system has got different labor
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demands or different Capital demands so by tracking which companies are making large changes making big Investments
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then reconfiguring what they do we can start to understand how those new systems have different supply and demand
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Dynamics I think both of those Frameworks are useful for different kinds of questions though increasingly
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I'm becoming convinced that the systems view has more to say

Episode Highlights

  • Understanding Automation vs. Augmentation
    Exploring two perspectives on how automation and augmentation affect labor dynamics.
    “Both frameworks are useful for different kinds of questions.”
    @ 00m 55s
    February 11, 2025

Episode Quotes

  • The systems view has more to say.
    AI is shifting systems and industries, not just automating tasks.

Key Moments

  • Automation Debate00:03
  • Task-Based Approach00:12
  • System Level Change00:29
  • Reconfiguring Systems00:36