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Managers Playing it Safe

December 10, 2014 / 08:50

This episode discusses managerial behavior, shareholder interests, risk-taking, and the impact of ownership stakes on decision-making. Guest speaker analyzes how managers may prioritize personal risk avoidance over shareholder value.

The conversation begins with an overview of three main issues in managerial behavior: lack of effort, self-serving actions, and risk aversion. The guest explains that managers often play it safe, especially when their job security is threatened, which can lead to negative outcomes for shareholders.

Research findings indicate that when managers are protected from hostile takeovers, they tend to take fewer risks, resulting in lower stock volatility and increased cash holdings. The guest highlights that this behavior is not aligned with shareholder interests, as it can stifle growth and investment.

One key takeaway is that giving managers more ownership stakes may not always encourage better performance. Instead, it can lead to increased risk aversion, as managers become more concerned about their personal financial exposure.

The episode concludes with a discussion on the implications for investors, emphasizing the need to understand the motivations behind managerial decisions and the potential drawbacks of traditional incentives like stock ownership.

TLDR

Managers may prioritize personal safety over shareholder value, leading to risk-averse behavior that can harm company growth.

Episode

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so my research basically looks at why managers may not always act in the best interest of
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shareholders uh and what are things that investors can do to sort of discourage bad behavior by managers now generally
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speaking we think of there as being sort of three main ways in which managers behave poorly one is that they may not
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exert enough effort right because ex effort's costly if we don't monitor them
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as an investor they won't exert it the second is that they may actually take
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actions that benefit themselves but not the shareholders Okay the third is where
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my research is focused and that is that managers may do what my co-author and I call play it safe and that they may not
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take the risk that are necessary to create value for the shareholders now managers may not do that because they
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have a lot tied up into these companies if it goes uh South their career could be adversely affected their personal
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wealth could be affected much more so than a diversified shareholder so they're going to want to take less risk
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so my co-author are trying to determine whether this plan it safe is sort of a Salient problem for investors and the
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way which we did that is we looked at well what are firms do when they become protected from a hostile takeover okay
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so what happened is that in the US a bunch of different states pass these laws which made it difficult to do a
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takeover of a company located in those States uh now that's interesting because
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we and finance think of a takeover as sort of a a disciplining device on a manager and that if that manager is
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performing poorly uh doing things that destroy shareholder value it's going to
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push down their share price and it's going to basically make it easier for another group of investors to come in
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buy out the company fire the manager and improve value so now if I'm a manager
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and I'm not worried about that anymore because my state just passed a law that
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kind of protects me from a takeover I can now act more on my own interest rather than that of shareholders so the
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question is is well what do managers do when they become protected and so what my co-author and I found is that when
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they became protected by these state level laws they took less risk uh we observe stock volatility go down we
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observe cash Holdings go up we also observed them begin doing more diversifying Acquisitions which prior
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research is shown as one way in which managers try to reduce their risk and it doesn't look like this behavior is in
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the interest of shareholders a we can see that these Acquisitions have negative announcement returns uh and we
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can also see that they're concentrated among the companies where we would think
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that this planet safe is more important firms that at greater risk of distress and firms where the managers have more
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personal exposure to the company's risk I would say one of the key takeaways of our research is that this
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plane at Behavior by managers this incentive to not take on risk that may create value can have implications for a
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company's overall value investment and growth right if you think about it in
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order to create value for shareholders at some level you have to take risk products that have turned out to be
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great in the past someone took a risk to create that product if managers aren't
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doing that then they're not necessarily creating value uh another sort of takeaway is that this planet safe in
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general is probably going to be very hard to detect for a shareholder right we don't observe what are the the
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Investments that the managers choose in between and we don't observe what the
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expected returns are what the risk are we don't know if that managers may be
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sort of avoiding certain projects that could create a lot of value but they're
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worried about the risk and the personal exposure to that risk or you know we see
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these companies holding more cash now these companies say they're holding cash
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because they're trying to make sure they have investment you know the cash they
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to do an investment if it comes along is that true or is it they're holding the
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cash because they're worried about distress and they're just trying to make
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sure the company doesn't run into problems in the future and it's not really creating value for shareholder
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that's hard for a shareholder to know but sort of what our research is trying
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to point out is that managers May in general be trying to take on less risk than what we' prefer them to do and
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therefore it might be important to actually encourage more risk-taking I wouldn't say it surprised
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me but I suspect it would surprise others and that conclusion was is that we observed that this sort of plan at
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safe Behavior by managers was concentrated among those that had the largest ownership stakes in their
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companies now typically we would teach our students here at Wharton that if you want to encourage managers to work hard
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and not waste cash you give more stock in the company more of an ownership stake uh now it's true that that will
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make them work hard and not waste cash but what is often overlooked in practice is that it can actually make some
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problems worse particularly the planet safe by giving them more ownership you've just exposed them to more of the
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company's risk you've given them incentive more to play it safe and that's what we picked up in the data is
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that when they had more ownership Stakes this conflict appeared to be uh prevalent in the data
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so I would say one of the Practical implications of our findings is that as an investor as a shareholder if you
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don't think the manager is taking on actions that are going to create shold of value it's important to understand
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why they may not be doing that if you're going to try to solve it right I'll give
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you an example so the Wall Street Journal ran a really nice article last summer where basically the uh author of
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the article was bemoaning in their view that uh firms in the US and Entre in the
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US have become soft and risk and because these companies aren't taking risk in
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the US this is why the US growth and investment has been weak over the last 5 10 years but the question is is why
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aren't they taking these risk right if we as shareholders think it's because it
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just requires a lot of effort the managers don't want to exert that effort well then one solution is give more
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ownership in the company okay on the other hand if they're not taking that uh
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risk because they want to play it safe they're worried about their careers then
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the solution becomes quite different and that you don't necessarily want to give
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more ownership because that it just exposes them more of the firm's risk instead you might want to think about
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other things like granting them options which past research including my own has
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shown encourages risk-taking in terms of playing it safe in our research we looked at large US
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companies that are mostly public but my guess is that this planet safe is also Salient for entrepreneurs right so think
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of like a student that graduates from here at whorton right all of them are going to have an opportunity to go get a
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great job at a company that has a a nice salary good benefits and good health insurance now some of these students may
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also have a great idea for a new company or a new product that they could go do it instead but obviously going and
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starting your own company is risky and I would guess that many of these individuals don't go and do that uh and
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instead they just going to go take the safe job that has the salary and the fixed health benefits rather than go
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start a new company and I would term that as potentially playing it safe and I think it could be quite important
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uh I think probably the biggest misperception that our study might dispel is this idea that giving managers
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greater ownership stakes in their companies necessarily ensures that they behave in the best way right and that
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there's a lot of attention paid recently because of the financial crisis and that
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you want to give managers more ownership stake you want to give them these restricted stocks that tie them to the
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long-term risk of the company uh now that's probably going to get rid of some
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problems but it could actually make other problems worse and in particular playing it safe now if they're tied to
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the the long run risk of the company they have a lot more to worry about they may actually take on less risk than what
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we as shareholders want them to they may for go doing these projects that would create a lot of value just because
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they're risky I think one thing that's different about my research relative to other
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research on why managers might B misbehave is that most past researchers focused on the idea that managers don't
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exert enough effort uh and that they want to live what we call the quiet life they don't want to work hard uh whereas
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my research is showing that in fact managers may be exerting a lot of effort but this effort is not directed in ways
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that are necessarily trying to create shareholder value rather it's effort directed at maybe reducing the company's
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risk uh for the manager's personal benefit but not that of shareholders one thing that I've been
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thinking about looking at next which I haven't started yet was whether maybe
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the recent healthc care law has an effect on individual's choice to being entreprene rur right so if you think
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about it prior to the healthcare Lobby in pass if you're an individual and you
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start a company uh it's really hard to get health insurance as an individual
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and so your alternative was to go get that 9-to-5 job where you can at least have the health insurance uh now that
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the Law's passed and we have the marketplace and these it's much easier for individuals and my guess is that
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you're probably going to see a lot more people choosing to go and start their
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own companies knowing that they can get this health insurance without having to go get that steady 95 job
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Episode Highlights

  • The Risk of Playing It Safe
    Research shows that managers often avoid risks, impacting shareholder value negatively.
    “Managers may do what my co-author and I call play it safe.”
    @ 00m 33s
    December 10, 2014
  • Ownership Stakes and Risk Aversion
    Higher ownership stakes can lead to managers taking fewer risks, contrary to expectations.
    “Giving them more ownership...can actually make some problems worse.”
    @ 04m 14s
    December 10, 2014
  • Implications for Investors
    Understanding why managers avoid risk is crucial for shareholders aiming to create value.
    “If you don’t think the manager is taking actions that create value, understand why.”
    @ 04m 34s
    December 10, 2014

Episode Quotes

  • Managers may not always act in the best interest of shareholders.
    Managers Playing it Safe
  • This plan it safe is sort of a salient problem for investors.
    Managers Playing it Safe
  • To create value for shareholders, at some level you have to take risk.
    Managers Playing it Safe
  • Giving managers greater ownership stakes doesn’t necessarily ensure they behave in the best way.
    Managers Playing it Safe
  • Managers may be exerting a lot of effort, but not for shareholder value.
    Managers Playing it Safe

Key Moments

  • Risk Aversion00:33
  • Research Focus00:33
  • Ownership Stakes04:14
  • Investor Implications04:34
  • Healthcare Law Impact07:57

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