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Scott Sonenshein on Unlocking the Power of Less

March 17, 2017 / 15:24

This episode features Scott Simon Chine discussing his book "Stretch" and the concept of resourcefulness in organizational behavior. Key topics include the psychology of resourcefulness, the difference between chasing and stretching resources, and the impact of ownership on creativity.

TLDR

Scott Simon Chine discusses resourcefulness and creativity in his book "Stretch," emphasizing innovative use of resources over mere acquisition.

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[Music] thank you again to Adam and for putting on this event I'm really honored to be
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able to speak to you today about stretch my name is Scott Simon chine and I'm not
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just the author of stretch but I'm also a professor of organizational behavior
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at Rice now before I got into academia when I was around the age of many of you in
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this room I was working my first job in Washington DC and I got a phone call out
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of the blue from a recruiter and the recruiter said come to Silicon Valley there's lots of excitement here we'll
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pay you a lot more money we'll give you a lot of stock options well feed your
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breakfast lunch and dinner every day this is a job you should be taking so three weeks later I left family and
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friends and I took the job I never really reflected on why I was taking the job and of course when I got there
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there's also some rather bizarre behavior too because the way that organizations were judging their success
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was very much about what type of resources they were getting how much venture capital Oh could they raise how
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many new employees would come in each week how many customers could they get notwithstanding if even these customers
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are actually profitable if any of you remember pets.com of course that was the poster child of the dot-com era so I got
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me starting to think about some of these behaviors where we're so focused on our
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lives around chasing resources because we developed this dependence that we think in norther to find success and
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satisfaction we need more resources and we orient all of our energy in all of our efforts to trying to get more
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resources as opposed to doing more and oftentimes that's because we think that
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is the only pathway to success and satisfaction so that started getting me thinking and I've been doing research
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ever since about well what might be an alternative way of doing this and that led me to the idea of stretching which
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is a simple but powerful shift and how we think about resources everything from time money relationship connections
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knowledge it's not so much what we have it's how do we use those resources how
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can we be more creative in using what we have so there's some important differences in
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how our mindset approaches resources when we are stretching we believe that any resource is changeable so we're
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trying to get a picture hung on the wall and we don't have a hammer we don't give second thought we just
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take the shoe off of our foot and we we get the job done when we're chasing we
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got to find that hammer we got this search and search for it if we don't have it we're gonna go out and get it
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when we're stretching our whole focus is on how do we expand what we have to do
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more with it how might we take what we know in one context and put it in another context as opposed to when we're
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chasing it's all about what we're going to do to acquire the next thing because
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unless we require that next thing we can't actually do more we can't take
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ourselves to the next level we can't become happier if we don't have it and
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often what's driving this chasing behaviors what psychologists call social comparisons we look around other friends
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or colleagues or neighbors and we see what they have and we think we need the same in order to find that success in
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satisfaction but what's lost in this whole process are the goals that we have
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whether the inward goals that we're actually trying to accomplish for most people it really isn't just about giving
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more resources those are usually and those are usually means to a certain ends but we lose sight of whether actual
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goals are when we're chasing so stretching is the psychology of resourcefulness and helping teach us
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what we can do better with what we have but when we think of resourcefulness we usually think of something that's used
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for those in less fortunate circumstances so it could be for the poor or maybe someone who had just come
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to this country and doesn't know a lot of people or have a lot of money well my challenge in the book is really
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about how do we embrace the same psychology of resourcefulness because if you look at the history of many
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successful people who have also found satisfaction in their lives they started off resourceful they started off with
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not a lot and then the challenge is how do we maintain this type of mindset as we find ourselves with access to more
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and more resources can we maintain that scrappiness the same thing with organizations we have the classic garage
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startup but those organizations grow they want to show their success so they tend to change the way that they they do
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business so what I'd like to convince you of is there are there are times where if we
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embrace less we can actually end up doing more in the same notion of resourcefulness that fuels a lot of
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success in satisfaction really in our careers when their backs are against the wall can help bring us success as we
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move forward so the first thing is to own it now ownership is not a word that you think would describe a retail
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employee who barely makes above minimum wage but what I learned in my research is that it has a profound impact on the
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way that people approach their resources and I'll tell you an example I was doing
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a study of a chain of women's fashion boutiques and I went to the most successful store in this chain and to
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the most successful employee in this company and I said tell me how you do it or would he do this he gave me an
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example he told me about this time where he had a whole host of dresses that weren't selling he quite frankly
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described them as a piece of crap I mean they were falling off the hanger no one
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wanted to buy them so what he did is rather remarkable he took a pair of scissors and he cut the straps off and
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he rolled up the dress he put a tie around it and created a sign and said beach cover-up
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it went from a worst seller to a best seller now in many organizations of course this would get you fired right
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it's called damaging the goods in this organization he was celebrated I spent
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the next two years traveling around the country talking to his colleagues and hearing about their own cut off the
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straps moments and there wasn't just about physical products it was how they
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thought about training how they thought about customer service how they thought about operations in the overarching
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pattern in the day there was this when we believed that we owned not literally owned but psychologically owned our
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resources we give ourselves the license that creative freedom to solve problems in ways that are not anticipate a bull
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to constraints unleash creativity and the land of chase and constraints are absolutely terrible because we judge the
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worth of projects and we even judge the worth of ourselves by how many resources
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who's got the bigger office who's got more people on their team who's got the
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largest budget but it actually turns out that there are times we're having less
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unlocks that creativity to allow you to sell problems so in one study what researchers did is they
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brought in groups of students and they randomly divided them into two groups group a was told think of how the time
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as a child when you grew up not having a lot that was the scarcity group the second group were told think about the
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time growing up when you did have a lot that was the abundance group both groups
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were then told to solve a practical problem the universities computer lab had some extra bubble wrap what should
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we do with this well it turns out that simply thinking about scarcity led to more creative and innovative ideas and
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the reason is rather simple when we surround ourselves with abundance the way that the mind works is it focuses on
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the most conventional way of using a resource but we embrace scarcity and me think about scarcity we give ourselves
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that licence to use objects and think about objects in very different ways so in this case having less gave us the
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freedom to actually do more right three Outsiders solve problems and I should probably start with a caveat that I
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don't mean to diminish expertise you know if someone were the COO one of you
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were to come into my office for office hours and say you know dr. something trying they need a tooth pulled I would
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send you to the dentist and tell you I'm not that type of doctor so there's a
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there's a reason why we have experts but there's also something to be said about
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the role of outside there is those who actually know less about a specific topic so in one study what researchers
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did is they looked at all of the studies that examine the relationship between expertise measured by the amount of
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practice someone has and how it relates to performance and it turns out that for
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games like chess the relationship between performance and expertise is 26% now that's not bad although my guess is
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it's probably lower than you were the guest when it comes time to music it's
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21% sports 18% this next one gives me a lot of pause because it's education and
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it's largely college students it's 4% and professional work it's less than 1%
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now there's also a clear pattern in the way that the data are trending which is
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essentially as you move from structured activities like games where the rules are knowing
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in advance and they never change to less structured activities where the rules are often changing or unknowable and
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these are the things where we spend most of our waking lives doing the role of expertise dramatically diminishes and
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the reason for this is quite simple experts are very good at what they're doing but they use tools in very
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specific ways because that's that's how they've been trained so they have a hard
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time applying their tools to different types of problems when the environment changes around them this was backed up
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by some other research that looked at 10 10 different countries 166 scientific labs researchers wanted to ask a very
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simple but important question what is the relationship between what you know about a specific scientific domain and
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your likelihood to actually solve a problem in that domain seems like a straightforward question and in fact
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they found a positive relationship the more that someone knew about a specific scientific domain the less likely they
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were to solve the problem in other words biologists were better at solving the chemistry problems and the chemists and
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vice-versa for success comes from doing not planning now again there is important
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times in our lives where we want the plan but we often over plan and we over plan and we trick ourselves into
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thinking that the reality that's captured in our plans all of that information all of that data is actually
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true when the reality is is it's very hard to know what's gonna happen in five
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years in fact it's very hard to know what's gonna happen in the next day and
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the times that we find ourselves in right now and in fact if you look at the research there's very little correlation
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between strategic planning and organizational performance so I learned this firsthand the very first class I
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taught is at the University of Michigan I was still a PhD student is undergraduate introduction to management
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class and lo and behold this is probably no surprise to many of you in the room but when you put participation in the
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syllabus lots of people want to participate so I have a treasure trove of hands up in the air everyone was
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vying for airtime so I thought okay there's a really simple way of managing this what I'm gonna do is I'm just gonna
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say okay you're going to talk knew they knew then you know I've literally go around the horn in the
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classroom and I designate eight or nine different people to speak but what would
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happen is I get to the fourth or fifth person and with the bravado that you might have in some of your classes and
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more than where someone is just so confident that what they're saying is the most remarkable thing they deliver
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yeah you guys are all laughing for a reason they deliver they deliver you know this this comment and they'd be so
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proud and it has that big smirk on their face and everyone else in the room had a
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look of horror and they couldn't figure out why why is everyone looking at me so
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funny well it turned out what they did is they had just repeated the exact comment of the person sitting right next
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to them who had just spoken so we have a name for this it's called the next-in-line effect and what happens is
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when we are so focused on preparation and we have a speaking order so like I had a speaking order the mind shuts out
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as much as nine seconds before it's our turn to speak and as much as nine seconds after it's our turn to speak and
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that makes sense because there's nine seconds before we're planning our performance we want that we want to get
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that plan we want that really clever comment that we actually miss what just unfolded in front of us in those nine
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seconds afterwards we're thinking how did I perform did I meet the plan was a
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well received and so we end up not listening so what I try and do is you know put some more improvisational
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activities into my classroom to get people to more spontaneously just start acting and gather this idea that when we
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plan everything we end up with better results and I think I want to kind of leave you with one story that really
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captures this I'm guessing no one in the room knows who this is anyone really
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surprised you might know his name his name is Dan Wyden he's an advertising executive and one day he had a problem
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on his hands he had a client who needed a slogan to kind of make all of the different media campaigns come together
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so dan why there's a resourceful person he was in the scrappy makeshift office
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it was in the basement of a building because he couldn't afford prime real estate he didn't even have a phone back
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then there were no cell phone so he had a payphone that was his office phone with his back up against the wall he had
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a deadline and he recalled a rather bizarre situation for what he was trying to accomplish about ten years
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before and they a man by the name of Gary Gilmore was not a very nice person was in the news because he had killed
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two people Gilmore was a lifelong criminal you know horrible person but unlike many people on death row Gary
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Gilmore did not wanted to die right away so his mother interjected and Gary Gilmore's go away I really want to just
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die mom and he kept saying this to all of these associations when it was finally his turn to die in the execution
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chamber his last words were let's do it so that gave Dan why then enough material to finish his job because his
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advertising slogan that they came up with is arguably the most successful one in business history and I think it's a
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great example for three reasons one that you think about the context in which Dan why then produced this back
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against the wall time constraints came up with this idea to you think about what he repurposed something that didn't
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seem valuable at all I mean first of all you won't find this on the Nike homepage
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I can tell you that for sure but he took the slogan of a lifelong criminal his last words and turned it into this
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cultural icon and has sold lots and lots of stuff and changed our society because
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it's a third part that I really want to emphasize here because the phrase itself
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really activates us to start doing things and not to wait for the plan or the ideal resources think about how many
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times you might hear from other people or you might even say to yourself if I only had more time or more money or more
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information or more connections this is what I could do when we're stretching
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the time to act is right now so what I'd like to leave you with is just to reflect on those times where you think
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that you don't have enough are there ways that you might be able to better use what you have to stretch those
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resources and find great success and satisfaction thank you [Applause] [Music] [Applause]

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Episode Highlights

  • Chasing vs. Stretching
    A powerful distinction between chasing resources and creatively using what we have.
    “When we are stretching, we believe that any resource is changeable.”
    @ 02m 19s
    March 17, 2017
  • The Psychology of Stretching
    Scott Simon discusses how stretching resources can lead to greater success and satisfaction.
    “Stretching is the psychology of resourcefulness.”
    @ 03m 33s
    March 17, 2017
  • Dan Wyden's Iconic Slogan
    The story of how a last-minute slogan became a cultural icon.
    “His last words were 'let's do it.'”
    @ 13m 52s
    March 17, 2017

Episode Quotes

  • We lose sight of our actual goals when we’re chasing.
    Scott Sonenshein on Unlocking the Power of Less
  • Having less unlocks creativity.
    Scott Sonenshein on Unlocking the Power of Less
  • The time to act is right now.
    Scott Sonenshein on Unlocking the Power of Less

Key Moments

  • First Job Offer00:30
  • Chasing Resources01:29
  • Creativity in Scarcity07:13
  • Dan Wyden's Story12:46

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