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Roth Steve SF

February 25, 2016 / 06:12

This episode features discussions on forecasting, risk-taking, and decision-making with insights from the Good Judgment Project. The conversation highlights the journey of becoming a super forecaster, the importance of adapting forecasts based on new information, and the value of sharing perspectives.

The guest shares their experience attending an engaging minds event in New York City, where Phil Tetlock and Bob Meddler spoke about the Good Judgment Project. This inspired them to join as a forecaster, leading to a humbling realization about their knowledge of the world.

Key discussions include the evolution of their forecasting skills and the significance of using historical information while remaining flexible to current events. The guest emphasizes the need to frequently reassess forecasts based on new data and perspectives.

The episode also touches on personal investment philosophies, contrasting the guest's risk-averse approach with their wife's involvement in alternative investments. This dynamic illustrates how forecasting has influenced their views on risk-taking in real life.

TLDR

The episode discusses forecasting, risk-taking, and decision-making through personal experiences in the Good Judgment Project.

Episode

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my professional life has involved 4k have what I do or have done to help other people make better decisions
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hopefully but several years ago I attended a pen engaging minds event in New York City and Phil tetlock and Bob
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meddlers were speaking about the good judgment project which was very intriguing to me and so I inquired about
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joining as a forecaster and several months later when positions opened up I became a forecaster
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that and in a very humbling way that I knew a lot less about the world than I thought I knew and so that to begin with
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spurred by thirst for knowledge and information it also gave me a perspective about risk-taking because in
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my first year I was not a super forecaster I had to earn that status and I was involved in in a marketplace which
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involved essentially trading and I learned a lot about risk-taking and how much I was either risk-averse or overly
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overly risky learning about things from a perspective of other information has been very important but once i became a
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super forecaster in particular what was helpful to me was a perspective of others the sharing of information and
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the ability to test your own beliefs and hypotheses for bias by taking into account what others have said or
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analyzed as well as information that contradicts your own has been very valuable to me
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the process evolved over time for me and one of the things that is important to me is to use historical information but
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not to be over Alliant on it if there is the ability to compare against similar situations in the past I'm very
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cognizant of using that information but only to the extent that it is truly relevant to the current circumstances
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beyond that frequently adjusting my own forecast based upon new information and new perspectives of others is extremely
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valuable it's very easy to take a position and sit back and say that's it
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however the real world is a very active one and often things change and forecasts should change based upon the
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events and the happenings of the world and I found it's extremely useful to pay
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a lot of attention to those events and frequently re-examine my own forecasts and see if they need to be updated
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I think that one of the things that would be extremely useful would be to participate in good judgments open
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forecasting competition because you can test your own abilities and learn about the things that that both limit your
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ability to forecast and make you a better forecaster and through that process become somebody who is more
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adept at forecasting the good judgement incorporated itself has put together various training methods which have been
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very useful to me as a super forecaster and I'm sure to others but as an individual just forecasting and and
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using that forecasting experience can be a very valuable thing to learn about yourself and the process of forecasting
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what and and what you do well in what you do less well and then to seek ways of improving upon those weaknesses
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my wife and I have two different philosophies of investment she has been involved over the years as a partner and
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an investment firm that does alternative investments which are allegedly less risky but by my lights carry a risk that
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is sometimes more than what I like I on the other hand and much more risk averse
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and although less risk-averse then i was when i first started participating a good judgment project my professional
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career has been oriented towards reducing the risk that decision makers have and perhaps i've taken that point
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of view in my own approach to investing which my wife feels is overly conservative i think that that the
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forecast thing as part of the good judgment project has given me a window into my own risk taking perspective and
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move me at least somewhat closer to my wife's point of view and and i think that that's a very useful thing in real
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life as well as you know from the standpoint of participating as a super forecasting
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you

Episode Highlights

  • Becoming a Super Forecaster
    After joining the Good Judgment Project, I learned the importance of perspective and risk-taking.
    “I was not a super forecaster; I had to earn that status.”
    @ 01m 08s
    February 25, 2016
  • The Value of Adaptation
    I frequently re-examine my forecasts based on new information and events.
    “Forecasts should change based upon the events and happenings of the world.”
    @ 02m 58s
    February 25, 2016
  • Investment Philosophies
    My wife and I have differing investment philosophies that reflect our risk perspectives.
    “My professional career has been oriented towards reducing the risk that decision makers have.”
    @ 05m 04s
    February 25, 2016

Episode Quotes

  • I knew a lot less about the world than I thought.
    Roth Steve SF
  • The real world is a very active one and often things change.
    Roth Steve SF
  • Forecasting can be a very valuable thing to learn about yourself.
    Roth Steve SF

Key Moments

  • Learning Journey00:36
  • Risk Perspective01:05
  • Investment Philosophy04:31

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