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Social Security Policy Simulator Overview

June 29, 2016 / 08:34

This episode discusses the new Social Security policy simulator developed by the Wharton School's budget model group, featuring insights from Professor Ken Smithers. Key topics include trust fund reserves, non-interest surplus, and various policy changes to Social Security.

Professor Ken Smithers explains how the simulator compares its projections against those from the Social Security Administration and the Congressional Budget Office. He highlights that their model predicts the trust fund will exhaust about three to four years earlier than official projections, with deficits expected around 2031.

Smithers details the simulator's capabilities, allowing users to explore six policy options, including increasing the payroll tax and the taxable maximum. Each option has multiple combinations, totaling 4096 possible scenarios, which can be tested using cloud computing for instant feedback.

He discusses specific policy changes, such as raising the normal retirement age and implementing progressive benefit reductions. Smithers notes that while these changes have limited immediate impact on trust fund exhaustion, they can significantly affect long-term non-interest surplus.

The episode concludes with an invitation to experiment with different policy combinations to understand their short-term and long-term effects on Social Security.

TLDR

Professor Ken Smithers discusses a new Social Security simulator, its projections, and policy options for reforming the system.

Episode

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hi I'm Ken Smithers professor here at the Wharton School and I'm getting give
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you a quick overview of the new social security policy simulator that's available at the pen
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Wharton budget model group and you can see from the screen here is that you have a choice of various graphs that you
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can be looking at things like trust fund reserves non-interest surplus which the
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difference between benefits paid and taxes income receive Social Security taxes benefits interest income lots of
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other varieties and we also compare our results against those from the Social Security Administration and the
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Congressional Budget Office and first also BP before we do even think about any policy changes you can see that our
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model projects that we will exhaust the trust fund exhausting day will be about three and a half to four years earlier
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than the Social Security trustees project in particular we see our deficits happening around 20 31 and what
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come 20 31 we're seeing projecting that will actually have a non interest surplus of about 350 billion dollars in
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today's dollars eventually growing to over 1.2 trillion dollars per every single year again in today's dollars an
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hour 75 years shortfall is about a third larger than what you see from the Social
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Security Administration and to understand why you can look at the social security tax revenue and we have
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a more pessimistic projection of tax revenue coming in over time and that the reason behind that is that our model
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starts with census level data and we construct these transition rules based on various big data sets across many
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different key attributes age race marriage divorce number of kids education and many other attributes
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across a lot of population subgroups so we're really working kind of bottom-up
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and as a result of that we can see how productivity in the economy is changing as you have these large
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labor force composition changes as people are going into retirement they're being replaced by younger people and the
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average productivity per worker for example goes down as a result of that our benefits also go down a little bit
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relative social security but there are tax revenue is is is the main difference in our numbers line up a little bit
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closer to the cbo's own model on this all right so now let's consider some
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different policy changes and we have six options to pick from here increase in the payroll tax increase in taxable
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maximum and lots of other options there's altogether there's six options
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each has four different combinations associated with it so there's actually four to the sixth power different
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combinations 4096 policy combinations that you can run in our model you know each one takes about 30 minutes than our
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to run so you might be wondering how you're getting instant feedback as you move things around and different policy
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changes and we the reason is we're using cloud computing to do all the computations ahead of time and so that
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gives you instant feedback let's consider a couple policy changes that policy makers for years have been kind
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of talking about let's for example talk about raising the normal retirement age
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this one down here and we have a little tool tip here with it basically says what the current law is in particular
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the retirement age is going up to age 67 roughly about two months per year and if
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you want more info it can give you even more expanded info information and so this would be a policy change to
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continue that increase if you wanted to do that say even to age 70 and now when we do that you'll notice here that the
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impact on the trust fund exhaustion date from increasing the retirement age it's
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basically less than one year it's a very small change and by the way if you wanted to you can even kind of zoom in
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on the particular years and kind of it get more information you can you can actually look at particular yours the
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values and so forth and it doesn't have a big impact however over time increase
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in retirement age does have a much bigger impact on a non interest surplus the big deficit over time goes down and
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then what's going on here is essentially that we're increasing the retirement age
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is is simply basically too late to solve the problem at least for the trust fund
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it can be part of a longer term solution but it just simply faces in too slowly over a time and then we have some other
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things that you can consider here when is a progressive benefit reduction and you hear it explains the tooltip
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explains how benefits are currently calculated in particular the government you currently calculates your benefits
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equal to 90 percent replacement rate up to a certain value called a bend point then thirty two percent and then fifteen
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percent and so this is a policy where you keep the ninety percent replacement rate for poorer households constant but
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you decrease the replacement rate on Richard households and you can see the impact on the trust fund is actually
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also a fairly small and the current policies are blue line the red policy is kind of the new line and it barely kind
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of moves the trust fund exhausting a date and saying the intuition behind that is again it just is a bit too late
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they have an impact on things that phases into slowly however again over time it has a much bigger impact and
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then you can start to do interactions like you know suppose I want to do a progressive benefit reduction increase
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the normal retirement age and you can now start to see that it has a much bigger impact over time in terms of the
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trust fund reserves themselves again not a huge impact at least in the short run okay so now let's
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consider you know other things I mean you can a lot of people have argued for like increase in the taxable maximum
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right now your payroll is being taxed up to 118 thousand dollars 500 per year a 12 point four percent tax rate and so
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some people have argued that maybe we should levy that tax over our larger income base and what we can see is for
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example as we go to the say increase that $250,000 it actually has an impact on on the trust fund as we go to 400,000
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as a slightly bigger impact not much of a difference going from 250 to 400 thousand households there's just not
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enough households there and if you go above 400,000 house of dollars it has almost no impact going forward but again
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we get some life but you know over the long term it starts like you know I get a little bit bigger this is one of those
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policies as a much bigger impact on the short run because it's immediately happening then but the relative to the
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long term and so you can now start to think about different combinations I mean there's a 4096 combinations here
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that for you'll explore I I haven't even explored the every single accommodation
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and so you can see the trade-offs yourself especially between the long run and the short run by giving your own
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combinations a try thank you

Episode Highlights

  • Trust Fund Exhaustion Timeline
    Our model projects the trust fund will exhaust three to four years earlier than expected.
    “We will exhaust the trust fund about three and a half to four years earlier.”
    @ 00m 58s
    June 29, 2016
  • Impact of Retirement Age
    Increasing the retirement age has a minimal immediate impact on trust fund exhaustion.
    “Increasing the retirement age is simply too late to solve the problem.”
    @ 05m 11s
    June 29, 2016

Episode Quotes

  • We will exhaust the trust fund about three and a half to four years earlier.
    Social Security Policy Simulator Overview
  • There are 4096 policy combinations you can run in our model.
    Social Security Policy Simulator Overview
  • Increasing the retirement age is simply too late to solve the problem.
    Social Security Policy Simulator Overview

Key Moments

  • Trust Fund Projections00:58
  • Policy Combinations03:21
  • Retirement Age Discussion05:11

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