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Obama Correct on Net Neutrality

November 19, 2014 / 07:15

This episode features Reid Hunt, former chairman of the FCC, discussing net neutrality and President Obama's recent support for it. Key topics include the implications of net neutrality for internet access, the role of internet service providers, and the need for competition in broadband.

Reid Hunt explains that President Obama's statement on YouTube emphasized the importance of unrestricted access to content without interference from internet service providers. He argues that the internet should function like a telephone line, allowing users to access any website freely.

Hunt also addresses the potential impact of the president's comments on content providers, noting that the FCC must ensure fair access for all companies, preventing discrimination by internet service providers.

He discusses the challenges the FCC faces in gaining bipartisan support for regulations and the importance of the three Democratic commissioners aligning with the president's vision for net neutrality.

Hunt concludes that while the economic significance may be limited, establishing clear regulations under Title II is crucial for protecting consumers and maintaining competition in the internet ecosystem.

TL;DR

Reid Hunt discusses net neutrality and President Obama's support, emphasizing fair access and competition in broadband services.

Episode

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i'd like to welcome reid hunt to
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knowledge at wharton today reid is a
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former chairman of the federal
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communications commission i want to ask
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you
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what you think about the president
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president obama recently coming out in
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favor of net neutrality i ask you as a
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former chairman of the fcc and uh
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obviously knowledgeable about these
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issues
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but also in the context there's a
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professor here kevin wereback who has
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said along with others that the real
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danger to
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the internet ecosystem in the us is the
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dearth of competition at the broadband
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provider level so in light of all that
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what what was your what's your view on
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net neutrality and what's what's
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happened
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based on the president's statements so
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there are two things about the
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president's statement the first is that
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he made his statement on youtube this is
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a case where the medium is the message
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he was basically saying you see me on
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youtube here
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everybody in america
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ought to have the capability to get
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access to this content or any other
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content they want without having to ask
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the permission of the internet service
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provider
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he was basically saying without
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without using these words
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the internet service provider should not
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be a sensor or an editor or a gatekeeper
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who says what website you can get to or
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whether or not when you get to that
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website you can actually watch the video
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in a high enough quality
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he was basically saying there shouldn't
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be any discrimination imposed on your
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personal preferences
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by the fact that you're limited to just
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one or two companies that are giving you
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internet service so it should access
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like a telephone line in the old days
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and you can call anyone you want is that
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the idea that's basically what he said
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um so that was pretty cool the medium
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was the message right uh and the second
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thing he said was
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he didn't use exactly these words but i
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think this was also
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pretty pretty clear
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fcc you have had a lot of trouble
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getting the courts to accept your rules
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and you've clued together lots of
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different compromises
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just say
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the following
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there is one single
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common medium of communication for the
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united states and from the world and it
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is called the internet
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it doesn't need a lot of rules but from
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time to time we might need the fcc to
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establish some rules that will guarantee
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just two things
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everybody will have access to this
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medium
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and number two when you have access to
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it you get to go to the websites that
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you want to and you get to do the
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picking
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that's what he told the fcc now what
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that means legally is
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please invoke title ii of the law
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but his message was not meant to be
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bogged down in the legal niceties he was
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saying
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just do it declare it title ii
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you don't need that many rules but you
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do need to give a guarantee to all
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americans that they can share as a
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community in the internet and they can
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get to the websites and to the content
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that they want to reach now that
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addresses the consumer accessing the
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internet
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behind the internet you have providers
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you know the netflix and others of the
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world who want sort of unrestricted
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access or they don't they don't want to
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be in a slow lane does the president's
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comments also affect that side of the
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internet also yes the president in
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effect is saying to the fcc
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suppose that the internet service
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provider cuts a sweetheart deal with
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some particular content company
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and the purpose of that deal is to
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exclude some competitor to that content
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company
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suppose that uh
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the internet service provider says i
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like nbc and abc but i don't i'm going
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to give them
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the ability to use the internet to
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broadcast their
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material not just over the year
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but i don't like the local broadcasters
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so much so i'm going to keep that person
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out of the package
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the president was saying you can't do
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that that's another way to discriminate
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against
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different content providers and i want
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everyone to have the chance to sell on
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the internet and everyone to have the
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chance to buy on the internet at the
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same speed always or he's saying roughly
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the act quality of the access needs to
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be approximately equal okay uh anything
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else that we that
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that we should learn from that statement
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what's likely to happen i know there's
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been it's been difficult for congress to
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come to any agreement on on any sort of
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rules and to give the fcc much direction
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there's been conflicting directions that
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have been trying to be there are five
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commissioners at the fcc uh three are
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democrats two are republicans
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i would imagine
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that the president doesn't expect the
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republican commissioners to agree with
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his position
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unfortunately as pretty much everyone in
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the united states knows the president
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has really had a hard time getting
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republicans in congress or at the fcc or
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in the senate to agree with him on any
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topic
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and i know that he's tried and he's
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tried and he's tried so the president
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then really needs the three democrats at
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the fcc
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to listen
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to
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pay attention to to inwardly digest and
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ultimately to decide to agree that the
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president is right i think that they
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will
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so um
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looking at the long game you think that
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this is a game changer moment
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i do i don't think it has tremendous uh
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economic significance for any of the
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content companies or any of the internet
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service providers
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they aren't right now basing their
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business plans on discrimination
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but you just want to be
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careful to make sure as a government
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that if somebody gets
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unchallenged to monopoly position in
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internet service or builds a tremendous
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vertical integration
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business where content and conduit are
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combined that you could step in and
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protect
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the little guy against the powerful and
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that's why it's right for the fcc to
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declare that it does have the
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jurisdiction
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to look out for everybody in the country
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if needed so it's providing
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a level or will provide if
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all is approved a level of certainty
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that's been missing this regulation that
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we're talking about is called title ii
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and some people will say to title two or
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not to title two that is the question
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i would say that really for the agency
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it is to be or not to be
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if you're an agency and you don't have a
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jurisdictional basis you don't have the
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legal authority to pass rules then
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you're out of business
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thanks very much
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you

Episode Highlights

  • Reid Hunt on Net Neutrality
    Former FCC Chairman Reid Hunt discusses President Obama's stance on net neutrality and its implications.
    “The medium is the message.”
    @ 00m 49s
    November 19, 2014
  • The Importance of Title II
    Hunt emphasizes the need for the FCC to declare Title II to protect internet access.
    “Just do it, declare it Title II.”
    @ 02m 58s
    November 19, 2014

Episode Quotes

  • The medium is the message.
    Obama Correct on Net Neutrality
  • Just do it, declare it Title II.
    Obama Correct on Net Neutrality
  • It’s to be or not to be for the agency.
    Obama Correct on Net Neutrality

Key Moments

  • Net Neutrality Discussion00:15
  • Medium is the Message00:49
  • Title II Importance02:58
  • FCC Jurisdiction06:40

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