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Innovation in Health Care

July 13, 2015 / 07:31

This episode discusses the role of chief innovation officer in healthcare, the challenges of innovation implementation, and the implications for hospitals and organizations.

The conversation features insights from a research project supported by the Mac Center at Penn, focusing on why hospitals are creating this role and who is selected for it. The project aims to understand the impact of these roles on innovation outcomes.

Key discussions include the differences between internal candidates, typically physicians, and external candidates without MD degrees. The findings suggest that outsiders may adopt a broader definition of innovation.

Implementation challenges are highlighted, with the research indicating that while initiating innovation is straightforward, sustaining it proves difficult. The episode also touches on the potential crossover of findings to other sectors beyond healthcare.

Listeners can expect to learn about the practical applications of this research and its relevance to innovation in various organizational contexts.

TLDR

The episode examines the chief innovation officer role in healthcare and its impact on innovation implementation and outcomes.

Episode

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so the research project that I want to talk with you about today is a project that we're undertaking with the support
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of the Mac Center here at Penn and this this research examines a phenomenon which is literally sweeping the country
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in the world of healthcare innovation is all the buzz in the world of healthcare
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these days and what we're finding is that a number of hospitals academic medical centers in particular have
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created a new role in their organization and that role is called chief innovation
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officer sometimes it's called vice president for innovation but the person who occupies this role is tasked with
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trying to develop new approaches new solutions innovative ideas and drive them through the organization what we're
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interested in in the in the project is trying to understand number one why hospitals are investing in the creation
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of this new role and perhaps the structure of the center number two who were the people who were being called on
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to head up these these initiatives and number three what are the outcomes our rates of innovation in any way affected
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by the creation of this role and how so this research were on the sort of the front end of the process here we're
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interviewing chief innovation officers and other people sort of around the country and academic medical centers and
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we're probably halfway down the road in terms of the data collection process and
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I'd be happy to share some of the findings with you at some point during this conversation we're having
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well thing I love about this project is it sort of fits right Foursquare in the center of the mac centers mandate and
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and the mac centers mandate and the and the the research itself the goals of research or to contribute in two
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dimensions one is the development of and further refinement of theories of innovation in the context of large
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complex organizations and number two is so what are some of the practical applications of the research that we do
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so we're not undertaking this research simply to advance theory but we're also
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very very interested in the practical side of this so what seems to be working in what context what can we learn about
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the way in which it's working or the kind of obstacles that organizations doing this encounter that we can then
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disseminate and let others learn from so that the process of the development of innovation of new approaches in these
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complex wildly complex academic medical centers can unfold with fewer problems and perhaps better outcomes
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so what's really interesting about this is that while everybody agrees that the
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current dilemmas that our healthcare system is facing require innovation and innovation everybody's talking about
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innovation the centers for innovation are slow a little diffusing somewhat slowly that themselves and what we found
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there are two things that are important at this point one is the question of so who's getting picked to play the role of
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chief innovation officer and what we find there is that sometimes the candidates are internal people the
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people are chosen are internal people physicians who understand the institution its culture well and in
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other cases they're outsiders who don't have an MD degree but who've been very
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successful in moving the needle on innovation in other settings outside the the world of healthcare that's
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interesting because there are two quite different theories about the capabilities that are required to be
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successful the second thing that we're learning is that implementation is the
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stumbling block while it's easy to get one of these things off the ground and
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to hire somebody it's it's at that point that the real hard work begins and what
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we're finding is that in some cases there's been a certain amount of success
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in moving in needle on innovation in other cases it's been a really tough slog and implementation is proving to be
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a huge challenge so what's really one of the things has been really interesting about this is to
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see how innovation is defined in different settings that we've observed and what we're finding is in some
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settings it's relevant early to find perhaps in terms that most of us might sort of off the top of our heads
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associate with an academic medical center their innovations in medical technology or innovations and surgical
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procedures but in some settings the definition of innovation is much broader and includes innovations and human
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resource practices innovations in the way workflows are defined and it's sort
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of a much broader view and what one of the things that we're interested in and
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we think we are onto something here is it seems that when somebody is hired from the outside to play this role of
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chief innovation officer and when I say outside I mean not only outside the academic Medical Center itself but
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outside the field of medicine in general they tend to take a much broader view of
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what innovation encompasses so the the range of initiatives that are undertaken under their Aegis is somewhat broader
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than the range of things that are undertaken initiatives that are undertaken when it's an MD who is in
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this role of chief innovation officer that has I think real implications down the road for how institutions that
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haven't already set up an Innovation Center haven't identified and hired a
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chief innovation officer might want to think about what they want to accomplish with this role because the kind of
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person you choose for that role is going to have a major impact on how innovation
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gets defined internally and then what the consequences are subsequently so what's next well I'm working with
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Kyle Meyers who's an advanced doctoral student in our department here at wharton of health management economics
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and three undergraduates in the engineering school on the work in health care that work we're in the process of
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finishing up the data collection and and that should be completed rather soon one
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of the fun things about this project is that as we've gotten into it what we
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found is that this role of chief innovation officer exists in other sectors of the economy outside
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healthcare and it's going to be very very interesting in terms of what's next
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to see that whether the kinds of things that we're finding in the world of healthcare also apply to similar kinds
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of initiatives outside the world of healthcare my suspicion at this point is that there will be some crossover and
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the so some of what we're learning about more and less effective initiatives in
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the world of healthcare will be relevant for organizations that are anticipating
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adding this position of chief innovation officer outside the world of healthcare
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so we're very excited in a practical sense about the implications of our findings in the world of healthcare to
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the world outside healthcare you

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Episode Highlights

  • The Rise of Chief Innovation Officers
    Hospitals are creating new roles focused on innovation to tackle healthcare challenges.
    “This role is tasked with developing new approaches and solutions.”
    @ 00m 38s
    July 13, 2015
  • Challenges in Implementation
    While hiring a chief innovation officer is easy, implementation is the real challenge.
    “Implementation is proving to be a huge challenge.”
    @ 04m 19s
    July 13, 2015

Episode Quotes

  • Innovation is the key to solving our healthcare dilemmas.
    Innovation in Health Care
  • Implementation is proving to be a huge challenge.
    Innovation in Health Care
  • The kind of person you choose for that role will have a major impact.
    Innovation in Health Care

Key Moments

  • Healthcare Innovation00:18
  • Role of Chief Innovation Officer00:38
  • Implementation Challenges04:19
  • Broader Definitions of Innovation04:32
  • Crossover to Other Sectors06:39

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