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How to Determine Which Part of What You Know Really Matters

April 23, 2015 / 17:14

This episode discusses knowledge assets, their structure, and their role in organizational success. Key topics include strategic management of knowledge, innovation, and knowledge sharing.

The conversation highlights the distinction between structured and unstructured knowledge, with examples like patents and the expertise of key personnel. The importance of mapping knowledge assets for competitive advantage is emphasized.

Listeners learn about the entrepreneurial management of knowledge and how organizations create and share new ideas. The episode also touches on the balance between internal and external knowledge sharing.

Specific companies like Tesla, Goldman Sachs, and Procter & Gamble are mentioned to illustrate different approaches to knowledge management and innovation.

The episode concludes with insights on the challenges of incentivizing knowledge sharing and the development of educational programs at Wharton related to strategic knowledge management.

TL;DR

This episode covers knowledge assets, their strategic management, and the role of innovation in organizations.

Episode

17:14
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well
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knowledge assets are the knowledge
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drivers of an organization's success
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and they can be unstructured tested
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knowledge
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so an example there would be the deep
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expertise of
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key personnel or knowledge assets can be
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structured
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explicit knowledge codified
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examples there would be patents
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copyrights intellectual property rights
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in
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codified form what is interesting with
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knowledge assets is that
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the more you structure the more you
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codify knowledge the easier it is
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to share that knowledge both internally
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and externally
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so an excel spreadsheet very structured
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knowledge can be shared in milliseconds
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via
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the internet whereas deep expertise or
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experience it takes more time
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to share it with other people the other
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thing that i think is important about
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knowledge assets is to think of the term
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assets like you would with physical
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assets there's some pieces of knowledge
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that are just not
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valuable from the point of view of the
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firm
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and there's others where that knowledge
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is basically fundamental to your ability
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to compete
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and this is where we start to
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distinguish between
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knowledge assets and let's say strategic
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knowledge assets which are the
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pieces of knowledge that make a
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difference in your ability to compete
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and prosper
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well it's interesting when it comes to
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physical assets you have a balance sheet
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that shows you
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what you own or process and it's more
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difficult more tricky
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when it comes to knowledge so with a
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knowledge map
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we intend to really identify
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the key knowledge resources that
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underpin
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an organization's competitive advantage
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and we map them along two dimensions one
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is the structure of knowledge
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unstructured or structured tested
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explicit
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and the second dimension is the level of
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diffusion
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is it undiffused do only a few people in
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the organization have that knowledge do
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many people in the organization have
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that knowledge
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or does the competition have access to
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that knowledge or is it available
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to the general public so those two
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dimensions structure and diffusion
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are important to map those critical
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knowledge resources
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a sort of simplified rendition of that
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is depicted in the diagram that we're
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looking at now
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so what you have is the two dimensions
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uh
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to keep it simple highly diffused or
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highly undiffused and then highly
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structured or codified
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and unquantified so that gives you sort
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of four blocks in which you can place
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your knowledge
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traditionally very little when you look
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at
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knowledge management
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there was a tendency to try to capture
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all the knowledge in an organization
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first of all this is not possible
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it's really hard to capture all the
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tested experience and put into
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a computer system but even if it were
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possible
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you'd serve a cognitive overload because
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it's just too much so what we propose is
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really focus on
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the knowledge assets that are critical
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for success
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that underpin performance so those
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critical knowledge
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assets should be mapped so that
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the management can decide how to further
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develop it
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to create growth and competitive
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advantage and sort of
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associated with that is the fact that
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you can take
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knowledge in the four blocks that we
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identified and each one of those blocks
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has specific implications
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for your ability to take that knowledge
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and go out and create and capture value
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from the marketplace
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well the strategic management of
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knowledge as we discussed just now
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links knowledge to competitive
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performance and
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growth now with the entrepreneurial
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management of knowledge
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we try to understand how innovation
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is created in organizations so how do
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organizations big and small create new
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ideas create
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new knowledge how is that knowledge then
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further develop in the pursuit of
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innovation
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how is it shared and applied in
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different contexts so this link to
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innovation which is really important
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is captured by this entrepreneurial
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management of knowledge with the
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research initiative we try to create
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research that has impact to really
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balance
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theory and practice so the outcome of
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the research initiative has been
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both academic publications and
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practitioner oriented publications
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and we've always also been able to build
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a new executive education program
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at wharton that deals with the strategic
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management of knowledge assets
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and going back to the 2x2 that we set up
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earlier
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each one of those blocks the top left
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through
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the inner bottom right
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has specific challenges associated with
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how you strategically deploy that
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knowledge and how you
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go about innovating so knowledge which
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is uh
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very codified and diffused out and
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everybody knows it
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the challenges are very very different
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from basically being able to go
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in the bottom left and capture the
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expertise of your key people in the
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organization
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and think about how you can use that
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knowledge to create competitive
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advantage
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with knowledge networks we try to
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understand the linkages between
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knowledge assets
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so how are they related and how do they
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interact
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a little example would be looking at a
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patent
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on a new technology that would be one
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knowledge asset and another
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knowledge asset would be the experience
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or expertise
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of a key engineer that developed that
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patent
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so two knowledge assets linked
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to one another that's a mini network so
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the question is when we want to be
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strategic about
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knowledge development and the sharing of
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knowledge
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can we give away one knowledge asset and
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hold on
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to another knowledge asset so
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looking at tesla for example last year
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which opened up its patents
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to competitors they might have given
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away the patents
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but they haven't given away the
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engineers that worked on the patents so
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it's very clever
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you give something but the competition
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not necessarily can do too much
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with it because another part of the
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knowledge network
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stays within the organization and is not
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shared
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so to me there's sort of two challenges
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one is as i look at my various knowledge
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assets
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can i think about ways of linking them
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because if i link two knowledge assets
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it allows me to come up with a new
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combination
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and that might be very very powerful and
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then the other one
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is how do i particularly with the more
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tacit
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types of knowledge how do i actually
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identify that knowledge and where
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we can get traction using that knowledge
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in the competitive marketplace
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well it's interesting that when we think
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about open innovation and sharing
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knowledge or giving away
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knowledge before
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you can decide what to share you have to
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know what you have
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so to me the first step in any
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open innovation initiative or strategic
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alliance initiative has to be
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looking inside and thinking about what
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are the critical knowledge pieces that i
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have
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and what are knowledge gaps what are
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knowledge assets
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that i don't have and might be able to
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source
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from the outside so i think it's really
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important to
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have a strategic knowledge map to then
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make
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informed decisions about who to partner
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with and what kind of knowledge
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to obtain from partners and if you think
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about the
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combination of two pieces of knowledge
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in some novel way
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in a way that's the essence of all what
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what most entrepreneurs do
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and the challenge then becomes is i have
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a piece of knowledge and i may
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underestimate its true value until i
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start thinking about who else might have
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knowledge that i can link up
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uh so i don't have to have the new
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knowledge myself
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what i need to do is find some way of
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identifying whether that knowledge would
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be
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useful for me to come up with some new
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combination
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there's a huge culture and political
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dimension when it comes to the sharing
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of knowledge
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and when we look at people
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and their motivations also in terms of
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their careers
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sometimes it's difficult to incentivize
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them to to share that knowledge
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i guess they are looking at
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innovative technology companies like for
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example google
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ways to incentivize people to work
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together
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if they enjoy what they're working on
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like
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one day a week you can do whatever you
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want to do but do it in teams
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so there are ways i think how to bring
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employees together
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and take them the fear of sharing their
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knowledge
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and make sure that they contribute to a
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common goal
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i think that's important to establish
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that goal
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and make everyone feel comfortable to
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work in a team
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this may be an opportunity to put up
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another chart
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and that sort of shows you that up in
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the top left hand corner of the chart
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is where value lies because what you
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have is undiffused knowledge so
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other people want it and you have it and
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what you have is highly codified
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knowledge which is kind of easy to
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replicate
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and to use and here's where the dilemma
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lies and that is that people up in that
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top left hand corner
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want to try to keep that value and
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unless you
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formally recognize that it's necessary
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for that knowledge to be spread in the
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organization
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so you can go forward and prosper as it
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were competitively
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it just ain't going to happen so unless
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you've got some kind of map that
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shows you where the valuable knowledge
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lies in terms of
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getting fairly uh early returns on it
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people are just not going to share it
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well the second point is that
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if you're up in that top left hand
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corner what you really need to do is
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have
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have identified that the knowledge is in
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that top left hand corner
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and so to prevent people from trying to
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retain the value of that knowledge by
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not sharing it
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you need to have that formally
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recognized in your reward system
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and that's a very interesting point in
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that
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within the company you would like to
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share all your knowledge
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but outside the company you have to be
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strategic and you don't want to
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necessarily share your knowledge with
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the competition
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so there is um yeah
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a difference between internal knowledge
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sharing and external knowledge sharing
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but once you have the map once you know
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what a structure was unstructured and
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how diffuse it is within
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you can make those strategic decisions
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okay so if you have a look at the chart
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what you have is you know in the
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simplified world
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uh is the four blocks and uh
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there are companies that uh historically
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have played in each one of those blocks
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and it might be interesting just to talk
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very briefly about that
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if you look at the bottom left-hand
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block this is where
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the essence of your knowledge is deep
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tacit expertise which is kind of hard to
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articulate
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and it's resident in the minds and
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and experience of experts uh typically
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what you'd find there's somebody like
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goldman sachs
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who's brilliant at being able to use
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their financial expertise
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to come up with new kinds of financial
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instruments that they can
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take into the marketplace and as the old
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new changes they keep on changing as
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well so the heart of their knowledge is
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to be able to tap that expertise
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a much more pragmatic example of that
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would be somebody like bain as a
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consulting firm
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which is particularly interested in
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deeply understanding
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and being able to develop solutions for
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the
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customers new solutions for new problems
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the top left hand side is uh is somebody
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who would be
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depending very much on using protected
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knowledge which is being patented
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so examples to this day of the most
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prolific
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companies in terms of patenting or
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people like ibm
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people like samsung people like canon
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and the essence of their knowledge is to
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keep on generating new protected patents
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as we move to the right and the
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knowledge gets more and more diffused
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the companies up at the top right are
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companies that are able to come up with
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new combinations of existing knowledge
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and i think a beautiful example and in
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fact
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the source of the concept of open
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innovation
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was mr lafley at procter gamble who
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uh basically you know said why do we
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have to
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create new knowledge ourselves why don't
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we go out and find solutions to the
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you know to the problems and this led to
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you know amazing products like the
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swiffer for heaven's sake
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he has a very very big business was just
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created from
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basically taking old mops and and
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detergents and doing it in new ways
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and then bottom right is perhaps the
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most interesting and that is uh
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is is companies that are constantly
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experimenting with trying to find new
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ways
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of applying their existing knowledge and
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our two favorite examples there is the
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german company buyer
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who for 110 years has been creating new
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uses for aspirin
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and every year they come up with new
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uses for aspirin
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and then the second one is w al gore who
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basically took teflon
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and is constantly innovating around the
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use of teflon so
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it's uh you know every every corner
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or different places where you can play
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and extract knowledge and capitalize on
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it
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i think for senior management it's
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important to
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think about what kind of knowledge
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assets does my organization have
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is it in the bottom left the top left
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the bottom right
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the top right and then how do i want to
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strategically develop that knowledge
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and there are opportunities for growth
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in each
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of those quadrants
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well we've just published a harvard
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business review article
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about the topic we have
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created a three-day executive education
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program at wharton that
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helps people understand what is
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strategic about
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the development of knowledge we have
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experts like peter capelli talk about
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the management of tacit knowledge
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talent our advising for innovation
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karl ulrich talks about technical
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innovations
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so interesting mix of faculty where
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we discuss the challenges that come with
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managing knowledge strategically one of
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the things that i want to add to the
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to the pot here is is that martin when
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he did his dissertation on the topic
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actually developed a way of simulating
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the evolution of knowledge
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we're making some fundamental
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assumptions about the nature of the
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knowledge
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and then how that evolves using
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different types of strategy for
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knowledge development
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and we continue to work on that
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simulation
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so that what you can do is if you have a
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particular knowledge strategy in mind
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you can test it in the simulation and
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you know test 100 years
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of knowledge development in in a few
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minutes
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so it's a very very powerful way of
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beginning to look at the implications of
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making certain
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strategic moves in knowledge management
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you

Episode Highlights

  • Knowledge Assets and Success
    Knowledge assets are essential for an organization's success and competitive advantage.
    “Knowledge assets are the drivers of an organization's success.”
    @ 00m 07s
    April 23, 2015
  • Structuring Knowledge for Sharing
    Structuring knowledge facilitates easier sharing both internally and externally.
    “The more you structure knowledge, the easier it is to share.”
    @ 00m 35s
    April 23, 2015
  • Creating Value from Knowledge
    Understanding how to leverage knowledge can lead to significant value creation in the marketplace.
    “You can take knowledge in the four blocks and create value from the marketplace.”
    @ 03m 57s
    April 23, 2015
  • Strategic Knowledge Mapping
    A strategic knowledge map helps identify critical knowledge resources for competitive advantage.
    “The first step in open innovation is knowing what you have.”
    @ 07m 54s
    April 23, 2015

Episode Quotes

  • Knowledge assets are the drivers of an organization's success.
    How to Determine Which Part of What You Know Really Matters
  • The more you structure knowledge, the easier it is to share.
    How to Determine Which Part of What You Know Really Matters
  • You can take knowledge in the four blocks and create value from the marketplace.
    How to Determine Which Part of What You Know Really Matters
  • The first step in open innovation is knowing what you have.
    How to Determine Which Part of What You Know Really Matters
  • It's important to establish a common goal for knowledge sharing.
    How to Determine Which Part of What You Know Really Matters
  • You need a map to recognize valuable knowledge and share it.
    How to Determine Which Part of What You Know Really Matters

Key Moments

  • Knowledge Assets00:07
  • Knowledge Structuring00:35
  • Value Creation03:57
  • Open Innovation07:54
  • Common Goals09:56
  • Strategic Mapping10:46

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