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You know, just because something is bad upwards, that doesn't mean you do the
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same thing. You could always create a subculture cuz genuine whistleblowers don't become whistleblowers by design.
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They often just are raising concerns, hoping someone can deal with those things. Um, funnily in the interest of
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the company. So, they're just really trying to just like raise an issue, but
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then they often find themselves as, you know, like what else like me in the subject of an investigation or
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harassment and all these other things uh and intimidation. So I think they then become this weird uh in this weird state
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where they don't understand why things are working in an upside down way. >> [music]