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Leading When the Goal Feels Impossible

April 30, 2026 / 01:39

This episode discusses scaling educational initiatives in India, featuring a conversation about a partnership with the Delhi government to expand from 300 to 20,000 schools.

The guest, a former CEO of an educational organization, shares the challenges faced when the Delhi government insisted on rapid growth. They describe initial hesitations and the pressure to meet ambitious goals.

The guest highlights the support from their board, who encouraged focusing on long-term direction rather than immediate metrics. This approach allowed for more effective leadership and collaboration.

Key discussions include the importance of senior-level buy-in from government officials and the need for cultural changes within the education system to facilitate this expansion.

The episode emphasizes the complexities of scaling educational programs and the strategies employed to achieve significant growth.

TLDR

A former CEO discusses scaling education in India from 300 to 20,000 schools through a partnership with the Delhi government.

Episode

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So, I was a uh the CEO of an educational organization at that time. We were working in about 300 schools at that
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point in India. And the government of Delhi came to us and said, "We really want um
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want to work with you, want to collaborate, partner with you, but we want you to get to 20,000 schools almost
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overnight." And um well, I tried for four four or five times to actually just shut it down
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and sort of not get into it. It felt too crazy, too um almost mystical trying to achieve.
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But, they were just being so persistent. At one point, they said, "Look, you
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know, either go big or go home. We'll we'll stop, you know, the partnership
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altogether if you don't scale in the way we need. We need you to really be um
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working with every child in our system." And to be fair, you know, going back to
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boards, our board was really great about that. They said, "Look, this is the
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story where this is the reality we're in. We're not sure we can how to get there exactly, but we trust
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that you'll be able to find your way through." Our job as a board is let's meet every
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quarter as we do now, but let's focus on less about current metrics because they
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were close to irrelevant now. As you go on this new journey, let's look at the the direction you're
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going in. What do we need to to to know as you go along that you're on track
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towards that new direction? So, our staff able to lead um in a much more leveraged way cuz they work with people
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already in the system and get them to more of the day-to-day work of our approach. We really getting senior-level
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buy-in from the very top of government so we could get the right culture changes into the
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system, for example. So, it was a kind of yes, we're very much we're there to
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support you, but we want to show see that you're really on track you're not
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deluding yourselves this can be done. >> [music]

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Episode Highlights

  • Scaling Education in India
    A CEO faces the challenge of expanding educational reach from 300 to 20,000 schools overnight.
    “We need you to really be working with every child in our system.”
    @ 00m 34s
    April 30, 2026

Episode Quotes

  • Either go big or go home.
    Leading When the Goal Feels Impossible
  • We trust that you’ll be able to find your way through.
    Leading When the Goal Feels Impossible

Key Moments

  • Government Challenge00:07
  • Scaling Pressure00:30
  • Board Support00:41