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hey David how are you so Dana what's in the docket today Rob hello Robbie Lowe Rob Herbert Walker Lowe Rob Jimmy Jim Lowe it's so uh
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interested in everything and his career I think he's our manager's favorite because he's he's no one works like Rob
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Lowe I can't even keep track and he does have a show now stories I only tell me he's got a one-man show he's like a stand-up he's
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an on-archy yeah it was just in Palm Springs he's uh he's the hardest working man in Showbiz this is the new one
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because he does everything he's like I have three podcasts I have three TV shows and I'm Gonna Be On Top Chef
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you're like oh my God I know he's gonna have a baking show I'm sure yeah he's making Boolean base as we speak but you
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know he's got a strong gin which is sort of an enviable good hair strong chin good hair because to me when you get
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older unless you have that you know kind of like Mitt Romney look like Superman's
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Dad look with the big chin the short neck you have two choices you can either be a pirate or a cowboy you can either
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be Steven Tyler or Jeff Bridges but you got to be either a pirate or a cowboy unless you have a strong chin yeah because I did a movie with Burt Lancaster once and he goes how can you
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be a movie star you don't have any chin that's kind of true that's true yeah I don't have [ __ ] dude I'm going for a little scruff after seeing you make your Headway with it we're turning into the same person I know I copied your haircut
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and now we're doing this well it's funny because uh you know Rob when he did Tommy Boy we had one of the big fights in time which wasn't with Rob it was about Rob because really because Farley
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we flew in after us and now we had to go back and forth that wasn't like the new days where you can skip [ __ ] we were
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back and forth yeah yeah to Toronto and then one time Farley wasn't feeling good
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on the plane and when he we landed he goes all right we got to get up at five so I said all right and so I landed and
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then Robbie Lowe was there and I go oh you want to grab a beer or something he goes should we call Farrell's I go no he's not feeling good so the next day we
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sat in makeup and he was just and Farley was glaring at me in the mirror you know you bank shot you know she's sitting
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next to the bank shot and he's just licking his lips which I know is trouble yeah and he goes how's Rob Lowe
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how's Rob Lowe and I go are you saying how is Rob Lowe I don't know he's all right did you had dinner with him he wasn't there not even dinner one am
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still at and he goes you're out with [ __ ] Rob Lowe you don't call me I go are you out of your mind I go you were
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sick remember you were fake sick you went to bed he goes you still [ __ ] ass barley to be mad at me I know and that's
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we got in the great tuna stepping uh fight uh when he stepped on my hand oh yeah it was off yeah you guys should yeah physically that Rob's good looks are like Kryptonite they weakened us and
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then we all we all wanted to hang out with them well Rob told me once because when he he came on SNL the first time
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the church late he was gonna come on church lady and he told me once he said that right before we go to because I had to kind of lock into the character who's really mean he goes he looked at me and
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goes I thought you were gonna kill me I was like because the look in my eyes right before we start the sketch it goes
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this guy's gonna murder me he did it a couple times he said he really uh really happy with it he loves it he's done
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three hosting jobs and um anyway uh he's also the busboy at Garcia's on weekends
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he's he's chatty he's fun to talk to and he will just go anywhere you want to go and he
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is right he's very entertaining he knows what he's doing writes books looks at the newspaper if anyone does anymore
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takes his shirt off even when no one's lucky just because he looks good no one knows what I'm fighting to keep mine on
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at all time I'm cut I'm cut I have girls go if we have sex there's no way you can keep all your clothes on I was like I
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mean we can try so the problem is when you get older if you get to a weight where you're cut yeah then you get more
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wrinkly upstairs and it's called a raisin head it's an actual thing like if you think of Clint Eastwood like 20
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years ago he was kind of built up but he was a raisin head so you you know like if you're kind of chubby or fat then you
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just you're not you have no wrinkles it's a trade-off but if you want to have a 28 inch waist at 70 you're going to be
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a raisin head I don't want to be a reason all right here comes a non-raisin head here comes a non-raising the
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definition of Aging well Mr Robert Lowe [Music] thank you [Music] so Rob Lowe so you're in pretty good
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shape so do you ever think to yourself like if you're out with your wife or whatever somebody's making some noise
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maybe you might have to physically fight a guy an adult human it's so weird you ask me this on the way into the studio just now no I'm not kidding there was
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some guy kind of creeping in the parking garage and I was like I might have to [ __ ] this guy up and then
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I started doing this whole thing about like could I do it would I do it should I add
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a whole drama play out in my head not five minutes ago Jesus well you're saying in Los Angeles in a parking garage there was a freak roaming around yeah that's not unheard of no it's
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unheard of isn't it in one of our big cities that there might be somebody up to no good maybe thanks I mean I love
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The Walking Dead I didn't think I'd be in it on a daily basis in West Hollywood these guys coming out of alcoves if
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they're all that going like this I mean I'm all sorry it's like Jesus Christ outside the Polo
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Lounge it looks like something from The Purge this guy's doing a smash and grabbing my Chevy Monza I'm trying to
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buy a head of lettuce at gel since I got the mummy behind me coming in over the claws out you know Jesus Christ
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these girls walking with their knees walking backwards I'm like where the [ __ ] am I so anyway you but you're very
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physically fit this relates this is just a good random question that relates to what you're saying sort of have you ever been
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punched in the face when was the last time you've got a punch in the face I was kicked in the face whoa kicked in
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the face with a steel-toed boot that counts more I think nice Matthew Modine that [ __ ] Matthew Modine I always knew that guy I knew he hated your guts I
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know the people get competitive that are host of ass I guess for the rest of their Hallmark movie you know what
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happened for the rest of your career it's like who's got the best episode but you you hosted three times but I was
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reading your book last night and you punched Tom Cruise in the face I punched I punched Cruz in the face punch he also but he practically knocked me out of course why do I love that it's uh
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well because on well Matthew Modine kicked me in the face in um a stunt gone wrong on a movie called
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Hotel New Hampshire broke my nose the director was so mad at him Dirk didn't like it much anyway but the director was
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so mad at him that he re-voiced Matthew's character with another actor shut what Revenge what that's Revenge yeah I found him very affable when he
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hosted the show I know you dare don't you defend him he is the nicest person in the world that's what I I was gonna
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say I don't understand why the director had a thing for him but he did and he's the nicest man have you ever done a
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movie Rob where like halfway through the movie you realize that you weren't the director's first choice and that he or she actually resented you well at worse
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I I had a wonderful worse I had a lunch meeting where I realized halfway through the lunch meeting that they thought I was somebody else
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whoa so I was just who does he think you were they thought it was Matt Dillon Matt Dillon oh so and it was it was a meeting with Danny DeVito and I'm sitting there
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I'm sitting there I walked they thought Dino was Danny DeVito I walk in and I I see Danny DeVito and
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he gets all excited and waves me over the table I'm not there to see I'm not there to see Danny DeVito I'm there for my own other thing but he's all excited and I've never really met him and he's
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pointing at the table going yeah yeah yeah and he's all excited and we sit down he's and he starts going in about
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this movie and this project and things and I'm like wow this is cool what an unexpected gift and I and but then over
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Danny's shoulder I can see the street and I see walking down the street over Danny's shoulder Here Comes Matt Dillon
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and I realized oh he thinks I'm Matt Dylan oh wow and then so I'm waiting for this Awkward Moment which of course
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happens where Matt comes and goes what are you guys doing or whatever and Danny has to like get out of that Damon that's
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a bookmark impression Matt Dylan oh sorry God damn it go ahead I I they thought I was Val Kilmer I was testing for Amadeus and he kept calling me Val
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and then when I walked out Val Kilmer walked in they I did tests for Amadeus because at 26 I could play 18. so I was
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I'd go in the room I'd see Eric Stoltz I'd see I I read for Risky Business wait you tested for Amadeus yes I did with Mr Milos Foreman
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um the thing about Milos is he's Czechoslovakian and it informs everything he does um wait it informs everything he does yeah that's the thing
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about you know it's that thing of like you know your Czechoslovakian but you don't really watch you know the thing
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about the checks is they don't they grew up breaking rules foreign thing that thing that I have heard this one but he comes up with these things you don't know where they come from but it's so
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specific you have to listen so we're talking about funny people in the world and this career path we've Chosen and
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stuff and he said regards funny people goes there's only 900 of us on the planet
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it was kind of seemed like kind of the right number yeah I wanted to do a coffee table book or a at least a Twitter of laurenisms and I tried to get I tried
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to get Amy Poehler to do it and she was she was so down I mean she's like he'll find out it's us and I was like who
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cares I think Lauren Rob and Dave what's your favorite lornism oh because I have a couple that are very you eccentric
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yeah I'll go first um would you like to go for a walk and so I remember telling Lovitz I was going to go on a walk with with Lauren he's like have a good listen
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yep I remember that one and so it's this long walk through the woods in in uh an
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Amagansett and it's quiet and we're just walking and walking and Lauren goes um you know there's nothing more violent than a tree
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because he goes what about Amber is trying to kill that Pine what was this out in amaganza yes there's nothing more violent what are the [ __ ] trees like out there yeah see I know that in there
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that's the name of the coffee table book nothing more violent than a tree I mean it's like Game of Thrones out now it's
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poetic it's a theme I guess because the other thing was I remember I was building my first house
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and I was just you know sort of talking about you know like how what a hassle it is and what I should choose and whatever
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and Lauren's just because you know as you get older you find yourself being drawn to Wood
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I never got that good of once he's like and then the last one sucks this week and then the last the last one is uh my
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uh Cheryl my wife was pregnant with our second child we knew it was a boy and I was we're really really struggling with
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names and Lauren's kids are my kids same ages so we we shared that and would talk about stuff
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and I go yeah we're thinking because we've talked out names and I go yeah we're thinking about this we're thinking about things you know I find the king's
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names work the best yes yes I got I like the king's names James the God one of the classics that everyone probably has had at some point
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is him pouring a glass of water from a bottle and doing a really long tall pour they never underestimate the value of water oh 100 I've seen it yeah that's a
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great one I I never thought to underestimate it well that didn't make what I said very
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interesting then please don't correct me when I'm doing my truisms no no no no you don't misunderstand oh you've seen
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my Lord Michael starting an outboard motor no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no RC exactly
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have you um Dana is it don't you do Lauren having rem or REM sleep is that you uh I don't know maybe that's a little hater by the way is it REM sleep or REM sleep
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it's REM I think it's REM sleep yes so um Lauren having REM sleep I always heard this was your bed I always give you credit whenever oh I I don't I remember Bill Hader on one of Conan's last show did a really funny thing of
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Lauren uh falling asleep on and off on a on the flight and when he would sort of
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come to uh Consciousness he would just say a a celebrity's name yes it's that and then he would sort of wake up and go Steve knew the driver
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Lauren Paul Mick that was that was the brilliant Mr Bill hader's bit and it was so oh [ __ ] great it's hard to come up with a new angle on the pantheon of Lauren David
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and do a few minutes of Gap girls before they even start the show for the 50. I asked Mike recently I said are we going to do Wayne and Garth at the 50th and would they do a wide shot and can they
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get it high up on the crane maybe a couple of fills from Cleveland maybe Bezos would let us use his Rockets it's
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called it's cotton and Vaseline on a lens it's an old cat it's an old candy Bergen trick you know um I think it's
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called a cheese cloth then [Music] the thing is I know Rob sometimes people say you're good looking but I feel like
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two things I'm overlooked for being good like I don't they don't talk about it enough and also youthful and Youthful I
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feel like internally youthful youthful he's 37.6 nobody nobody wears a trucker hat
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more seven days let me tell you something I hate hats and trucker hats I'll tell you two Secrets I hate hats but I hate my hair more so the only
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thing good about looking stupid for the last 20 years is that my forehead isn't that trashed because there's no sunbeams
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on it that's right and the other thing is I hate this mustache and whatever that is but I I'm worse without it so
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it's really a wait why do you say you're worse without it I don't like it and then what do you love what do you not
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keep it do you feel like you don't have a chin you want more of a chin all of it is such a blank slate I have no
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character in my face it's just people pass me by and no one talk that's that's me I have no voice you have a voice that's recognizable I have no voice and no face perfect for someone doing
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characters I'm completely neutral there's nothing here but I realize now that I'm in my 60s you guys are in your
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early 30s my face started to recede into my skull I mean you lose volume so then
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I had to start to wear glasses it's like the Invisible Man and sort of a little bit of Scruffy I'm just filling in a
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shadow otherwise I would disappear in this Zoom where you use I know and then the beard gets gray and so you're like
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now nothing I'm nothing I'm just I know why do I have to go white on the chin everyone goes what snowy on the chin I
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still have a lot mix up here and I don't like that I like also Dana that you and
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you both of you have your hair dialed in you know it works and you're gonna write
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it all the way to the end well I may need a little help I need some graphs but I look like he could shoot Shane
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almost fire reshoots today that that is exact same hair same Elmer's fud I've seen it a bunch of times and I heard your hair was gray and I'm like I wish you would just do his gray hair so we
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could all trash him but then I go he'll [ __ ] look better and it'll it'll backfire on me so don't do that and I'm
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so I'm obsessed with men's hair I literally I could do a whole podcast on men's hair really truly I could well
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then can you can can you discern the tricks and sprays and and what I'm doing up here to hide the fact that my head is like a game of Risk I have so many so
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much territory in only so many soldiers so many troops you got to get the troops up front you gotta move but I'm on for
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grafting they just said I needed someone to donate graphs for me so I mentioned Rob Lowe and they go Rob Lowe um yeah well we'll call him even his pubes we'll take anything well let's go
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back to Rob Lowe and show business the the thing about Rob Lowe if I may call you that you may is that so he's
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incredibly good looking and funny which is a combo that's kind of rare and that's how Mike and I got him to do Wayne's World and we were thrilled when we were and shocked that we could get
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Rob Lowe and and then Kurt Fuller was also great and you had a funny uh you had to play something a little different so that that could have gone wrong easily when people say they want to be
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funny movies it's like oh I can be funny it's like when a host comes in you know Dana that's always a kiss of death they
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go I'm really funny and everyone in the room panics yeah because you don't really know what that means and they're
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like friends at a party I'm a gas so you know what they ask you to do it's like it's like being in read through or something there it's kind of Hit and Miss you're
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like oh I can kind of play this one time they gave me horse Shack and I was nervous and then I go Mr Carter and
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they're like oh okay we always go with a little bit of love it's basically a 1947 character actor
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and then Woody all right you know it goes around the read through but uh back to Wayne's World like they're giving you
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something that isn't typically like I think hilarious is just it was up to you to take the writing and and doing it a good way to make it work and it worked well it was a great Chuck's position to
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Wayne and Garth uh having Rob and he he did a lot of very dry droll dismissive lines the way the disdain that he had for the two idiots on the Sound Stage
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was great and then your your foil and Kirk Fuller who was the kind of nervous wreck so you guys were like a team and
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every single line landed every single thing out of your guy's mouth was this great juxtaposition
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with us so anyway there's a very very cool thing it I loved doing it and you guys were so funny and my my uh what I
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realized afterwards speaking of Lauren is that Lauren wrote a lot of my scenes and and particularly
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the scenes where I'm in describing television which is one of my favorite things I say or Colleen Camp is the
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idiot bimbo wife says his she goes where she goes I watch a lot of Television I would go of course you do you're very intelligent yes it was all those kinds of lines
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which just had its own frequency throughout the the the entire movie you were going against everything we're all
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going where's we were putting on and then you just have these little trolls I remember when I did the on the
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very first day they were doing a flow Beyond garth's head that's the beginning of the movie yes so I didn't know I
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didn't know anything about anything I was just kind of doing guards so I was sort of screaming I don't know why but
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with the air thing going up and I remember the late great Bernie berlstein pulled me aside he was our manager at
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the time of all of us and uh really sweet man and he goes you know kid you in film you got to play kind of small you know I take it down a bit
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I go it's a little late Bernie oh so those are so I have such great memories of doing that show unbelievable well that that was kind of I think that
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SNL and then into that movie uh was another like reading your Wikipedia page and your and your book just all these twists and turns and then that was a turn at that point like Rob Lowe can do
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comedy you know yeah that was that was um and I I there are really two people to thank for for that and that is uh Lauren and then Mike who I will remember
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in the you know as you come in on the the host comes in and meets all the writers and I remember him uh going in
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to meet everybody and sitting first time I saw Mike Myers I'll never forget it because he had a Michael Myers poster
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behind him from Halloween that was his whole thing yeah and um and he was like do you want to do a Wayne's
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World sketch or sprockets first time I hosted and I remember thinking I hate that [ __ ] Wayne's World thing I want to do sprockets
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um so we did sprockets I didn't hate Wayne's World I really didn't but I love sprockets and uh so and that kind of
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went went from there and then I was lucky to be surrounded by people like you guys you know I mean you're only as funny as the people who are around you
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well that that movie which because the second one we didn't quite get the uh well it didn't achieve the same thing it was it kind of made fun of itself like in the first one we were making fun of
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uh corporate commercialism you know yes and then the second movie I walk into the lair uh it was Wayne and garf's little hangout area and was a 500 000
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set it was one of the most gigantic gorgeous things I'd ever seen I was like what but you know as you know I've done
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so many movies and things just when something works you know another one of Lauren's things you you never leave a
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hit you know that's another one right yeah which is true but the the Wayne's World
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one was 36 Days 12 million bucks it was kind of tossed off not a lot of coverage
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light on its feet and then it just captured something and the second one has great stuff in it too so people love
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it but the first one has a certain match the um one of the most incredible things I've ever seen was going to a test
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screening of Wayne's World on the Paramount lot invited audience they didn't know what they were seeing had no
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idea what it was and they loved the movie from the beginning from the very very beginning but when Bohemian Rhapsody came on in
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that car and you guys started doing the head thing the the theater literally exploded
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and I have a theory about that because uh we did a zoom with uh Josh gadd and and you know Queen and Brian May and everything and we're talking about that one was when I saw La La Land
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three four years ago it's underestimated at least for me remembering what syncopated movement with human beings
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how potent it is yes and so on Wang's world you started out in their groove and then they go off on this operating
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thing so they leave the beat for so long nothing really matters goes way way way
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and then it kicks in Bohemian Rhapsody and we kick in with it I mean there's a reason when I see it now too it's like man that is potent yeah that is so potent and we didn't know it at the time
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no nobody and I also love the story that uh that Lauren again kept pressuring my
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don't you think it's a little old that song what about what about Guns and Roses or whatever the hit was in my and
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he was like no it's this is what the song is well Mike was brilliant that's part of his gift is he really he can
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pick up things and go wow and he really wanted that thing we were going to get out of the car do a whole dance around
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these steps and everything you know really yeah we were going to do a whole big thing but budget and time but for me
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personally on a very minor note when when Garth uh does his dance for the dream girl he does foxy lady yeah I was doing what's new pussycat but then
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Lauren said uh Steve is doing it in Father of the Bride you might look for something else so then and came up with
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the Hendrix one which worked out great and that was Kim Basinger or who was that that was the No No Kim Basin was in
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number two that was Donna Dixon okay um I didn't see their movie but okay yeah I
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saw Tommy Boy wait I got a question for Rob okay one last thing Dana I like that you give
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Freddie Mercury a lisp that he doesn't have nothing really matters did you really give him a list I mean listen the guy was not the most macho
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guy to begin but you made him super fat well in that movie for trivia people I did not have my lyric memorized I didn't know we were going to go that long and so at one point Garth is just moving his
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mouth but not really singing the words [Music] here's a question for Rob Rob you have a
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career of a lot of movies it's the dumbest setup you were in Wayne's World Tommy Boyne Austin Powers what do people know you from most on the street out of those three good one
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what are the three choices Tommy Boy Wayne's World and Austin Powers 100 Tommy Boy wow but I'll tell you what is
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weird nice what's what's weird is in the again the Lauren article this is Kennedy
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Center Lauren Michaels 50 years Washington Post they give three movie credits the first one is Tommy Boy Oh what else
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Wayne's wrong um I and I don't know why that is I think well I think because Wayne's World is so sick it Wayne's World is it's you and Mike that's Wayne's World that I mean
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that's literally Wayne's World I think Tommy Boy you know uh when people think of it they think of you know the three you know you inferling me I think it started with an ensemble yeah and it's
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more I mean those guys had written Wayne's World and maybe it's because Lauren said
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to that Bonnie and Terry Turner why don't you write a movie about how spade and Farley are around the office and then because as we've said that's backing
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your way into a green light movie instead of saying hey let's go pitch a movie about brake pads in Ohio I'm about
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to you know it's not like the funnest idea for a movie so that would have gotten passed on so going in it with
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just saying do it about these guys it happens to be about that but that was never the focus really yeah
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and I remember a version not to make it about me but a weird place um uh playing tennis with Lauren and
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Bernie and I think Lovitz and um Lawrence you know I haven't I have an idea Paramount's working on which I don't know really what you and Chris's Brothers
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so it was like a twins like an Arnold DeVito that's a good idea but that was all like it was it was all in it was that was six months I mean and then then Tommy Boy was was written so there was a
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little of that in there too well a did a good job and Tommy was a really fun shoot but when we were doing it and Bo
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Derek was your mom who's a sweetheart you know that great story right we're like we're gonna get Bo Derek we're gonna get Bo Derek if she's you know 10
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and she shows up with with like Annie lennox's Hair she cut her all her hair off oh my God I'm trying did she have a
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wig she has she had her hair shorter than mine right now she she's looking like it was she literally looked like
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like um Annie Lennox that's what general meetings are for it's that's what that's where you see your actors before you
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hire them and we were not happy and John Derek didn't want her going back to be a
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big movie star again and said to her you know I think you'd really like all your beautiful hair cut off and she did it
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she was stunning I mean what happened in the movie didn't she have short hair in the movie yeah she's looking by the way
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she still looks great I mean the same girl but like Bo listen but by the way Bose never ever had short hair other
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than that four month period when she shot that movie in her career grow it out yeah yeah she hustled to grow it
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back to hair again we have reoccurring themes here and I like it well what did you think about Kevin Costner walking on
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the set for the movie The Bodyguard with Whitney Houston with the Steve McQueen kind of almost crew cut which made Mick
00:29:29
Jackson crazy but it worked there's some hair I didn't know that but that's that's a great move
00:29:35
best hair in a movie star we're not including Rob in the last 30 40 years best hair I have a guy in mind [ __ ] that's tough well I'm gonna go probably I don't know if you'll include him in
00:29:47
the last 30 years but it's it's for sure got to be Redford oh yeah that's cool hair yeah I was
00:29:53
thinking Richard Gere more because of the way he flips it and then he makes it a thing but I've been watching American
00:29:59
Gigolos been on American whatever the AMC whatever the hell it is and you know I'm I'm shooting my show and I'm in my
00:30:05
trailer every five seconds and and that's on and it is American Gigolo is amazing to watch if I watched it within the last year yeah it's just a great
00:30:16
movie and he's he's a real that was writer on the block of Officer to gentleman like right when he's [ __ ]
00:30:22
questioning do you know are you how do you feel about Redford Robert Redford because I I have this sort of theory about him that please he is arguably if
00:30:36
you take it by the a movie star in who was in the most great movies in the in film history since the talkies since the 30s I I always pick Redford because I keep coming back around to and
00:30:49
people go people never guess Redford at a dinner party they go all these Classics Brando and Nicholson whatever
00:30:57
Carrie Grant was amazing but when you think of Butch Cassie Sundance Kid in three days of the Condor and uh The Way
00:31:03
We Were The Sting the natural uh All the President's Men there's just a period of
00:31:10
time and of course he directed Ordinary People so anyway that's my theory about Redford just wanted to throw that in for
00:31:16
you flag fans I could not agree with you more I mean just those that you tossed off there are ridiculous there's three days of the Condor it's just three years one of my
00:31:27
favorite movies of all time I I saw it when I was too young I didn't understand it um you
00:31:33
should watch it tonight Rob were you first of all how many times have you hosted and how scary is it walking out for the monologue um I hosted three times and can we talk
00:31:46
about the first one first I mean because that would be the biggest fear I think right yeah and what was your monologue
00:31:51
about the monologue was so I kind of got jipped out of the greatest thing that can happen to you on SNL which is you know it's like being shot out of a cannon like when when that
00:32:03
when they say I'm crazy audience is going so loud in there so loud and it's electric and I
00:32:11
didn't have that because we had my monologue was predicated on the audience hating me
00:32:18
um the joke from the minute I walked out the joke they were told do not clap to come out Robin needs to come out to crickets how do I not remember that so I
00:32:31
so I didn't ever get that um until you know you know the second and third time I did but
00:32:37
um doing the show is I've always said I I would I would have loved to have been on that show I would have it would have
00:32:43
been a dream I would have been a dream to me to do what you guys did a dream an absolute dream I grew up watching that
00:32:48
show I would have been [ __ ] static to have had that been my my career being on
00:32:54
that show I think it was Al Franken that it just observed after you posted or something you know it'd be really nice
00:32:59
to have like a really good looking cast member just as a person to put in different move in different ways along
00:33:06
with character work but yeah when Mike and I were like what what about us so you did Arsenio Beckman which I was just looking up that episode
00:33:18
it's so [ __ ] funny oh my God I couldn't even and the way you played it everything about it I know it was a Robert smiggles one of our best writers of Our Generation yep uh maybe Oda Kirk
00:33:31
was in there too a little bit but yeah that that is supernaturally funny and it's on YouTube it's Rob playing Arsenio
00:33:38
Hall but it really is just to the amped up environment of all talk shows and the sycophanish patronizing laughter and and
00:33:46
it's so funny it's called Arsenio Beckman with Rob Lowe The Crowd Goes Crazy is it well I also like it's also
00:33:53
that everything he does they go nuts the deterioration of any ability to ask a cogent question my favorite thing about
00:34:00
that was I think my guest was Linda Blair of all people yes and Michael wrote that my very first
00:34:07
question was literally it was like so I heard someone saying something about you
00:34:15
doing something yeah what's that all about like not not a question at all no it's just like what's up and then the crowd they had a really good shot of the
00:34:28
bleachers and just people going insane and then the original in the table read that people were supposed to eventually be on fire but we couldn't we couldn't
00:34:42
figure out how to do that because then later on uh I got to do uh carcinio so there was a lot of arsenius there was genius well you know what it was is Lauren had a thing where he didn't want
00:34:54
to go after certain people so by adding the inio it was like oh well that wasn't
00:35:00
Arsenio Hall Rob was going I was Arsenio yeah that's why that's why that that's exactly why it was because it was written as Arsenio Hall and and Lauren changed it or so you're it's your first
00:35:13
time doing SNL you're on a live Sound Stage you're out there and it's crushing and knowing your journey to there and all the stuff in movies and every The Outsider story everything I mean you
00:35:25
must have been just feeling incredible at me right it's such a rush and everyone's yelling must have been a rush to being a good sketch that works it doesn't it's not always the case
00:35:39
with all possible humility I will say I am super proud of the the three um snls I did they are all super good there are memorable
00:35:51
iconic moments from each one of them not some of them I'm not involved with we have Al Gore going lock box
00:35:59
is in one of it so um it's in a log box and um I did I did did I tell you about the time that I went up though I like I [ __ ] BL I forgot their cue cards
00:36:11
there so it's hard to [ __ ] up but I was doing remember mace Phil Hartman's character amen yes I'm a Bad Bad Apple
00:36:17
rotten to the coast yeah um I was doing a mace sketch with Phil and it all built to a joke and I and and I [ __ ] up
00:36:29
I [ __ ] it up somehow and we had and we had to ad-lib our way like [ __ ] up [ __ ] up so badly that that you could see the cue cards you could see Lauren like everybody looking Phil's eyes it
00:36:41
was it was over there was no way to end the sketch there was no way to end did you go ahead in the sketches or something did you jump the card in a way
00:36:52
or I I reversed it was the kind of thing he had a punch line that was predicated on me saying I
00:36:59
can't do something and I said I can do something so now he so he literally can't say his line now so the premise is
00:37:06
completely so I [ __ ] up the premise of the punch line and um I ad-libbed a punch line and it got a
00:37:14
laugh when we got out of there and and um I I actually think that's the moment actually where alarm was like I want to
00:37:20
do more stuff with him because he came backstage was where they were used Houdini
00:37:26
well there he is oh my God there's no one funnier than Lauren in a way I mean that's why we're all doing Lauren all these years there's no one who by the way Lauren is funny we always joke about
00:37:38
him I want people listening to go we [ __ ] laugh at Lauren there's a reason he runs the show he says funny [ __ ]
00:37:45
[ __ ] at dinner and really really funny and you go [ __ ] I forgot this guy's so funny okay this is my last my last long
00:37:52
one by the way you can cut all these out if you don't like them but we love them this is the best
00:37:58
uh so apparently he was being interviewed by somebody and days and days you know falling going
00:38:04
around and the guy says so I have to notice that you have a lot of very famous important people in your life are there any just regular people in your world
00:38:18
and Lauren goes well I know you [Laughter] so good Lord this one I've said before I think we've on this fledgling podcast
00:38:31
but see what you think of it being someone who came from a humble background and all that normal which I
00:38:38
feel is our gift and then with our children they have uh celebrity and money uh at whatever level it is and so Lauren said
00:38:49
regards this he goes you know you you and I were raised in the wilderness and we became civilized our kids are raised
00:38:57
civilized and we expect them to go out into the Wilderness Mary Lauren it's very brilliant though yeah but it but it
00:39:04
is very brilliant in a very simple way if it's not exactly the way you might use those words but yeah civilized
00:39:11
you know what you need to remember about Dana is he grew up with mismatching Furniture
00:39:17
Dana and people from Montana I've said this before but I still think it's worth telling you because you'll laugh
00:39:23
Lauren's under the bleachers during the show he's got the monitor right he's watching and critiquing the show maybe
00:39:29
it's the dress show I'm out there doing Bush or churchly I'm just vamping it up you know and Lauren said he's a [ __ ]
00:39:37
show Pony yeah he's a [ __ ] show Pony which I love that see everything we said about Lauren we love Lauren and so you know it doesn't it's just we don't we've never
00:39:50
met anyone like Lauren who says stuff like that the worst you know there's a moment where he was by the way just
00:39:56
about what's about to come out of my mouth makes me laugh he and I were sitting in my jacuzzi and he was doing
00:40:03
that thing where he he yes his little finger in terms of do you think Mike Bass Dr
00:40:09
Evil on me and he's literally doing the finger thing in his mouth is he saying it and I was like oh he would bite his
00:40:18
nails you know especially on Wednesday when we're trying to pick the show and that's that night by the way and this is
00:40:25
all SNL related stuffs so long story short Rob and I end up having dinner with Lauren at an Italian restaurant in Santa Monica with two of Lauren's
00:40:36
assistants so two things are funny one was that the this was the first time I actually did my Lauren for Lauren and then Rob threw in his lawn and yours was
00:40:48
a very funny thing he said Jen's light in the show yes but I started doing Lauren for
00:40:55
Lauren and I he didn't take offense to it because it was just him him on the Wednesdays being frustrated looking at
00:41:02
the board and not liking the cards or the sketches is I still have no [ __ ] First Act and that for me was my end to
00:41:10
Lauren in 1980 that's a real statement though it's not even like a parody yeah and then and then I got tapped out which
00:41:16
I've talked about in the show the other a little while ago about John Travolta I'm doing him on stage in Denver as a
00:41:23
comedian and then the guy you're doing is sneaking up behind you but you don't know it so if someone Taps your shoulder
00:41:29
you're thinking you're killing you know I'm going you know I don't know Mr Carter you know and that's like that and I look up and it's John Travolta but the
00:41:36
same thing happened that night and you saw it so Lauren tell asked me to do the Paul McCartney story of staying at
00:41:42
Lauren's house before I was on SNL for a month for his assistant so I'm really doing
00:41:48
Paul I'm going into it oh doing this you know we got to do it you know what you do you know could all that and then
00:41:54
Lauren looks up and he's going could be could be and I didn't know what it meant in time and I got the tap and I looked
00:42:02
up and it was Paul McCartney and I was right in the full and I didn't know whether he'd heard me and so I was kind
00:42:08
of nervous so I said and I hadn't seen him in a while I said you're holding up and then that that became a running thing he says
00:42:15
I never forget that Paul McCartney said so I can't do a Paul McCartney in fact I
00:42:21
my Paul McCartney makes him sound like he's Indian like he's from I'll teach you how to do it but go ahead and try it
00:42:28
um just everything's a question he's like will what are you what are you guys doing here that's not bad it's okay what
00:42:34
are you doing here what are you guys doing here what are you doing here um he says what are you doing here and
00:42:39
we and you said Warren said we just did the 25th anniversary screening of Wayne's World and Paul McCartney
00:42:46
Paul McCartney said and I will never forget it as long as I live oh Wayne's World oh That's a classic wow yeah I'll never forget as long as I
00:42:59
take it and run it's a classic you know because they were stumble bumpers and one guy was one guy was driving the car
00:43:06
one guy was just hanging out singing you know and they go to the donut shop they're like could we get a donut you
00:43:11
know but they called it a crueler he had a big kitty Boop and uh yeah in Liverpool it was called the boom gay you
00:43:18
know he had pastry it was a boom ganger are they called it a crueler and other people call it a donut you know I don't
00:43:25
know I'm not sure who I am but anyway have you guys watched The Beatles I've just last night was watching The Beatles documentary it is mind-altering
00:43:36
I watched it immediately uh over three days yeah I watched all seven hours and I was watching the second episode again last night
00:43:50
plus Disney plus you can go buy a month for 199 and then cancel your subscription it is absolutely
00:44:00
unbelievable God damn I love it and if you love them so much if you love them you're gonna honestly if you love even
00:44:07
like the Beatles You're gonna have to be like resuscitated well it makes people remember like this is the real [ __ ] like
00:44:12
this is the [ __ ] unbelievable [ __ ] of when you got a band it's unreal and for a chunk of time that stays forever and
00:44:19
you're like well what if what it what it illustrates and someone said this in a review is it it marvelously represents
00:44:26
the minutia and boredom of the creative process that you're just they just start
00:44:32
going into cover songs they're doing everything they can not to work on the song and then they work on it again and
00:44:38
they go away they come back it goes on for hours I mean it is just an insight into some of those songs in them where
00:44:45
you're listening I don't even know much about music and I'm like they're going from that to that is that even legal like things that they were doing back
00:44:52
then and you must if you were anyone back then you must have been so floored going am I in the same business as these
00:44:58
guys because well that's the thing you look at like I'm one who's doing that now who who's out there selling cardi B
00:45:05
who's doing that who it's it's it's a one-off it's a linchpin the 60s were a linchpin decade uh for the for the 20th century and then they they rode that wave they were a Teen Idol band who then
00:45:19
became the most experimental band and then they if you you know let it be was done in three weeks in January 69 by the
00:45:26
end of October they'd finished the White Album they took eight weeks off then they're in there third week of February
00:45:32
they're doing Abbey Road I mean no one worked like that but I do think there was the chemistry between Lennon and
00:45:39
McCartney that's just Supernatural obviously I mean what you can't be like duplicate Direction like they throw them
00:45:45
together with Simon Cowell like they're a teeny bopper man and then suddenly they're the best most intricately clever
00:45:51
creative band in the world and you go they it seems like they almost stumbled into it by just going let's get a band together and they just happen to get
00:45:58
these Geniuses together it's funny when I when I I don't watch anything anymore because I'm so much time working which
00:46:05
is great and I've I've there's not a move or a beat that I have not seen or played
00:46:13
myself at this point and so if unless it's done spectacularly or surprisingly it makes me want to stop watching and you're talking about acting comedy acting comedy story It's ability you you
00:46:25
name it name a scenario name it I've I've played it yeah because I'm on like an adventure show so literally a person
00:46:33
in a drain seen it somebody wants to get divorced seen it somebody gets poison table done it I mean there's not
00:46:38
honestly yeah a rattlesnake did it it's like and you see the moves 10 moves ahead so and it's fine it's it's just
00:46:44
you know I know where all the seams are and it's it's fine it's what I do so but when I do see something on television
00:46:50
or in the movies that reminds me of the power of it I literally start to cry I literally start to cry because it
00:46:57
reminds me of what this is and can be and what it means and that's the way I felt about about the Beatles documentary
00:47:02
yeah that's really well said I I feel the same way my my wife says you're possessed by them I go I know but it
00:47:09
it's fun and you know I rode the wave like I was nine years old they wanted a Sullivan I'd been in a band with my
00:47:15
younger brother we had a clothes hamper with a crayon we painted the cert we we drew were the Surfers he had a
00:47:21
one-string guitar he could play Louie Louie I had drumsticks which I stole from Mickey Hart's store the from the
00:47:28
Grateful Dead at age nine and then we would play and then when the Beatles came on we changed it to the Beatles and
00:47:35
then we we played for that so I had older brothers as well so I was getting all the albums in real time and so that
00:47:42
kind of imprinted it and then you're like oh well the Beatles I like them because I'm just of that generation but
00:47:48
then you meet people who are 20 or 30. I mean Conan O'Brien who's 10 years older
00:47:54
than me and J.J Abrams I mean we have kind of a little email Club where we send each other Beetle Clips uh we'll
00:48:01
put you in there Robert just things that we find and they're just possessed by them and um just you meet them and it's
00:48:08
just they they're a one-off I mean what's your favorite what's your favorite I mean you can cut all this out if you want what's your favorite moment
00:48:14
what was the moment you went holy [ __ ] [ __ ] um when they hid the camera in the
00:48:20
flower pot and Paul and John are having a heart to heart about the the last six years I mean they were such shooting
00:48:26
stars you were always the boss you know well I had problems with you too I wanted to change the arrangement but I
00:48:32
was afraid and I didn't follow me on what I wanted to do I had to rely on Jones to tell you well you know I always
00:48:39
thought that I was one driving it you know it's just that intimacy of the two greatest songwriters of the 20th century
00:48:46
uh and the way they talk to each other the respect and and The Angst of that conversation just moves me uh like no other lover same yeah unbelievable
00:48:59
[Music] I have a question for Rob while you're scribbling um Rob I saw trivia on you and it said
00:49:07
you were one of the hijackers of 911 that's not true how great that's such a great bit do you
00:49:13
stay in touch with those people the other hijackers I just want to say this to Rob Tom Cruise in space go
00:49:23
oh he's very intense he's gonna go do a film on the space station already on the
00:49:29
outside of the rocket going up to the Moon dude he's the man he's permission impossible he did he's the man he's
00:49:36
unbelievable he's the greatest he's the last great movie star and well he will risk his life he takes it seriously you got to give cred to that I mean oh my God no if I know if you saw what I
00:49:49
complain about on movies no one what Rob no one takes it more serious than Tom really I mean he makes
00:49:55
Daniel Day-Lewis look like a backslider like like he's in Dickey Roberts not committed to his scene at all yeah yeah I have a competition problems
00:50:07
this is my American actor competition HW go ahead so listen rob you worked with Tom on which movie Outsiders yes and was
00:50:19
he like that then um he was super like that then I mean look we were um I was like
00:50:26
I was uh it's in the book I mean it's like it's a huge story The Outsiders and Tom Cruise really pops off the pages to what he would have been like as a Young Man the intensity was there right well
00:50:39
and what I and there's stuff that I didn't put in the book because a lot of stuff I didn't put in the book and and
00:50:44
as I've gotten older and I've seen because how the two books that I wrote were received happily in
00:50:51
exactly the way I had hoped that they would be I'd become a little more comfortable putting me tell you the story about
00:50:57
someone yes thank you okay I like the way you just cut to the chase so I go to visit Tom on the set of Risky Business and I'm about to do I'm about to do this movie called class in Chicago so I go
00:51:09
like a like a week early so I can hang out with Tom and um I I take I remember taking a cab to
00:51:15
the set and it was like I had to write their directors like so 1980s it's a cab I'm writing the directions down Lake
00:51:22
Shore Drive it's a second exit off the you know and and I get there and it's the scene where he's jumping on the hood
00:51:27
of the Porsche to try to stop it from going into Lake Michigan and I walk on the set they're doing
00:51:32
they're doing they're doing the scene they're doing the scene they're doing the scene and I'm not interrupting obviously they're dancing I'm waiting
00:51:38
for it to be over it's super intense and he's trying to you know that scene he's like stop stop like it's super intense
00:51:44
and Tommy is super intense so yeah um and then finally it's over and he comes over to me he goes hey man how you
00:51:50
doing I'm like hey I'm like so what uh so when you're done let's go grab a bite and he's like yeah
00:51:56
um I I can't do that I'm like what because he can't see look um I know you but my character doesn't know you right
00:52:09
that's true and so I didn't we didn't do anything because dude Joel from Risky Business did not know me did not know Rob Lowe did he was he one
00:52:20
of those guys who was called by his character's name on the set um I don't my guess is that that was a
00:52:27
phase and by the way that was a phase everybody was told Sean Penn did that for a while oh it did I picked up the
00:52:32
phone one time at Emilio's house and it was like oh yeah oh man and I was like Sean
00:52:41
and he was like why is it is uh and he was doing his voice from that Louis Mall movie he did crackers he played like a Cajun in crackers oh okay
00:52:56
and he wouldn't give up the voice and even when I said Sean is that you he was like I was doing the thing so like a lot
00:53:03
of people were trying to do that kind of thing at that point I I by the way yeah if you need and want to do that that's
00:53:10
that's great and a lot of great actors do and it but I've also worked with really great actors who are perfectly happy to be talking about what they're
00:53:16
gonna have for dinner and they put the slate in front of their face and go action and they're transcendent
00:53:21
and then they go cut and they go back to talking about dinner I don't get enough money to stay as Dickie Roberts all by
00:53:27
the way this would go back to Saturday Night Live a little bit but um it's fine uh Jennifer uh who does hair makeup for
00:53:33
Saturday Night Live now she's out in Hollywood just a friend of mine she said there's a lot of actors now and a lot of call for actors after Gary oldman's
00:53:40
Oscar for Churchill for Prosthetics and because that as you know you put a nose you put a thing suddenly you get an Oscar or the critics just love it they
00:53:52
used to say that about me you didn't look anything like a character I was under attack so on SNL was that your
00:53:57
first experience did you ever get a kind of a really a look in it I love hosting where you just change when I can when I
00:54:04
can wear Prosthetics it's my favorite thing in the world when I did Behind the Candelabra it was all huge oh wow
00:54:11
character makeup that was cool and it was like it's so freeing it is freeze for anybody but it's it's super freeing for somebody who usually plays like
00:54:22
romantic leading man Parts it's so free I love it can you but you walk around like that too and when you're not in any
00:54:28
danger of anyone even knowing who you are well what's really interesting is I got to see how literally the other half
00:54:33
lives where I went I was doing this thing where I with our Paley Cuoco I was playing Drew Peterson the the big fat
00:54:40
cop from Chicago killed like three of his wives handlebarb walrus mustache back you look like I look like Bert Lahr from Cowardly Lion and
00:54:52
um and I went out to dinner I went out to lunch at a proper restaurant on my break and when I walked out the and I'm
00:54:59
in my cop uniform and when I there's no way anybody knows it looked like a big overweight fat middle-aged cop yeah and
00:55:05
when I walk out to people come back soon and they didn't mean it and I went oh so that's what this is
00:55:12
what it's like ah they were just not into you so much more fat ISM they're just like it's just like regular people because you know when it's just like it's just
00:55:23
[ __ ] crazy rather than Mr Lowe please come back yeah I wasn't like oh yeah or it was just like yeah yeah whatever dude
00:55:29
yeah I've I've done that when they don't know me it's the [ __ ] worst thing in the world they treat me like I love
00:55:35
those kids it is do you rob do you I walk out without paying for stuff and they go um the money I go oh this guy doesn't know me he doesn't know I don't pay for stuff I
00:55:48
was on a cell phone the other day and distracted talking to my sister-in-law getting gas at us and I drove off in the
00:55:55
handle it was still in the thing so I stopped I went back there was no gasoline the guy comes out what are you
00:56:01
doing you have to take it out you can't drive away with it he's telling he's telling me and I'm like well I did I
00:56:09
forgot you you can't do that you have to put it with it they says we can put it back on and the guy was actually from
00:56:15
Des Moines he just had this weird accent I'm so I can't do any accents anymore you sounded like Arnold I thought Arnold
00:56:22
Schwarzenegger didn't tell you something about Rob Lowe you know you take the good looks into funniness the
00:56:27
intelligence he's an author you know and these things you put it together you put all these things and all these people
00:56:33
you put the Prosthetics on them you give them a pot they can really get into and then they get the Oscar on Oscar night I
00:56:42
introduced I introduced uh Arnold to Sean Penn they'd never met him it was right after Sean uh won the Oscar did I do Arnold meeting Sean Penn
00:56:52
go ahead well because I gotta I gotta tell you what Arnold said I want to hear this so we would just we were at a table
00:56:58
and Sean was a table we came over and and Sean wanted to hit Arnold up on um some political issue he was upset about
00:57:06
his Governor at the time oh yeah and and Sean was super Earnest as is yeah and and he's like you know I don't want you to be on the you know I really respect you and I just want I don't want you to be on the wrong side of History he says
00:57:21
to Arnold and he goes yeah I know he goes yes yes let me ask you something in milk there's that amazing scene where you come out and they're standing there and you've won the election and you have
00:57:33
your your moment in the Sun and you you put your hands up like this not like this like this and he does like
00:57:40
the real feminine gesture that milk did because it looks so feminine and like a woman
00:57:46
and I thought only he could do that meaning Harvey Milk or Sean Penn Sean patch it's so it's like he was going like is this guy [ __ ] with me or not it was it was super super funny the
00:58:01
thing about Arnold his street smarts if you call him that just because of his uh accent and everything is unparalleled
00:58:08
the guy is and he'll say such simple stuff all before every movie I get everybody in the room and I say first of
00:58:15
all let's take away all the magical facts in the monsters the scary things the guns and all the things who take
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them out of the room and receive the story if the story will work work I dislike anyone who says let me tell
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you something right before they talk to you let me tell you something such a great precursor
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all right I have to go so Rob listen I want to summarize Dana and I'm going to show it go where are you going I have to clear up Rob was not one of the hijackers it
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was he was on a test flight or something I like the way I let that did you notice
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you let it slide you were like but I was I was on a test flight with the hijackers that's right and then you do
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and you don't stay in contact with him on many of them I've heard so you know you know we've Grown Apart it's not it's
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not like it's just we've just Grown Apart and you're like and it wasn't even that it's just later they said something to me it's like
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um okay so Rob was great Dana was great Spade sort of chimed in there's a lot of
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fun SNL thank you Rob you're always a [ __ ] blast to talk to bye boys love you [Music]
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