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I saw the church lady and I honestly thought I'm not just blowing smoke. I thought it was the funniest [ __ ]
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thing I'd ever seen in my life. That era, 86, 87, 88, that was the that was my first exposure to it. And I just
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thought, "Oh my god, this is the funniest [ __ ] I've ever seen." In post,
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we put this big face of Mimoa like a bobblehead size and then move the mouth like South Park style.
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>> And and so then we they have a total proof of concept before they ever buy
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it. I I got them all. And my my producer at the time said, "Just so you know,
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that will never happen again in your career." And it never did. And then I showed up and there was that
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meeting in Lauren's office where everyone goes around meeting >> and says an idea.
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>> Yeah. And I really I was sitting in a chair, but a lot of them were on the
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floor. >> Yeah. You got the King Tut chair. >> So we've got Zack Braph, who pretty much
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everyone knows. Zack Braph. Zack Brown, >> very likable guy, very funny guy.
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>> Always with Always with Donald Faze on >> We talk about the T-Mobile commercials,
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which he has a big hand in helping with writing. >> They they they really Yeah, they really
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re they shoot them ahead of time on their phones and show them to the ad agency and stuff. I was thrilled to hear
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that the kind of control they have. But that's a very interesting. That's why
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they really click >> Yeah. Uh he's got um you know, Scrubs is back. Scrubs is back, which is I think it's
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like a 15-year hiatus, >> and they're back. >> I like that. I like when they bring
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things back. Sort of those comfort, relaxing comedies that people like to watch, and uh
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>> they all look about the same, so why not? Sarah Chalk, who was in Wrongy, who
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we really like. She's a lot of fun. >> She's of course a big part of Scrubs.
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>> And we had his SNL experience hosting SNL >> which is very interesting. It's always
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it's always you get a little nervous when when someone recantss how nervous they were and the intensity of hosting
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that show. >> Tightens you up a little bit. It's like oh boy. >> It's kind of like oh my god, you know,
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it's that's it's a whoopdedoo, man. So >> So uh here he is. Uh you know him, Zach
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Bar >> and and loving. >> Oh my god. >> Uh oh, Spaghettiio. >> Oh my god.
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>> Holy [ __ ] We're not >> prepared for this. Do I have to put on
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earphones like this? >> Yeah, >> you have earphones. We got a podcaster
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on our podcast. >> Oh, that's right. >> Get it. >> I knew you'd get it.
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>> You've got another skill set. We didn't research. >> No, I know. And I used to do a podcast
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and people would come on and and we'd spend Sorry, I'm doing the thing I was
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so annoyed with other people would do. I'd be like, "Come on, >> get it together."
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>> Inside baseball. Martin Short took 45 minutes and nothing to do with it. It just just
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was. And we love Martin Short, you know, but dumb as a rock, but a great guy. >> A genius in his field.
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>> No. >> Technically is a different thing. I mean, I always I'm not Are you handy?
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Can you build a chair? >> Me? No. I can't do [ __ ] like that. No. >> He knows already. I can you put look at
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your chair has plastic on it. >> Well, I have to explain. Uh the I used to do this podcast with Donald Faison on
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my co-star. We rewatched 180 episodes of Scrubs and we would talk about we would
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watch them. >> Okay. >> And then we talk about them and we had a a nice fun time and then we stopped
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doing it. And so this room that used to look nice just became a storage room. So
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that's why there's [ __ ] all over the place. >> This was your podcast room? Yeah.
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>> Yeah. This was my This is my room. Look how nice yours looks. David Spade.
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>> I looked up on Google. It says people also googling Zach Googled Donald Faison
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and then literally no one else. >> Was that really >> because you're in everything with
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>> Yeah, we are comedy partners. We uh we do everything together. >> T-Mobile,
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>> right? >> Scrubs show. Yeah, we just um we we found each other literally 20 years ago
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at the table read for Scrubs and uh we just had great chemistry. We we just crack each other up. People really
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responded to it and uh we >> he's an upbeat dude, too. >> He's a great guy. He's uh he we're so
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different, but at the same time, we have the exact same sense of humor. >> That matters.
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>> It's good. It's good. >> Yeah. I like everything I'm hearing so
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far. Dana, I don't think I've ever like David I've met before. We had a we had a
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dinner at Howard Stern's house once before which was really fun. >> Well, that's his own podcast.
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>> We got invited into the castle. Uh >> but I don't but Dana, I don't think
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we've ever met and I'm such a massive fan of yours and it's it's an honor to
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meet you. >> Same right back at you. I I was looking up I was looking up >> um when you started doing the church
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lady because I truly I got to host SNL once and it was a dream. >> We know all about that. I
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>> I want to talk about it but because I I obviously I wanted to share my my story.
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I'm such a fan of the show my whole life, but I remember being a little kid and I wasn't supposed to be up that late
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and I was staying over my friend's house and we we were secretly staying up and
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we saw I saw the church lady and I honestly thought I'm not just blowing smoke. I thought it was the funniest
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[ __ ] thing I'd ever seen in my life. >> For a 10-year-old, it was about at that
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level. >> No, but I'm saying yeah, it was silly, of course, but you know, they always
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>> You think it was a lady? >> No, I knew what it was doing. And we were Jewish, so we we didn't we didn't
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know I we didn't we, you know, I didn't have an experience with watching church
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shows, you know. >> Right. Right. Right. >> But I just found the I I just thought
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what you were doing with that I I just know, you know, people always say, you know, the first SNL cast you're exposed
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to is is one of your favorites, you know? I'm sure you that >> for sure. Lauren Michaels.
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>> Yeah. And you were that that era ' 86, 87, 88. That was the that was my first
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exposure to it. And I just thought, "Oh my god, this is the funniest [ __ ] I've
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ever seen." >> And looking like the most fun thing you can do. They've got costumes on and
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they're and they're doing characters and >> people are laughing. >> It was definitely It was definitely
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inspirational for me cuz I, you know, at that age, I didn't know I would go into
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comedy, but I was like, "This is a job. People these people are being paid to do
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this." >> Truth. >> I It's a fever dream even now in a way that that I got on that show. I
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auditioned three times. I bombed every time. Really? the church church lady was a piece of my standup but in those days
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I was doing an hour hour 10 and I do three or four minutes of that but I had no idea I'd never worn the dress but but
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and I always say this in the early days of that I had Phil Hartman and Jan Hooks
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come on several times there was a lot of religious scandals that year and so it was 86 so anyway but thank you that's
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I'm and the dress and the wig everything about it had to be right and then it all
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came together >> right I had to ask just as a fan of it. How did it Did it get on the first time
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you uh uh wrote it? >> It was my first show. >> It was your very first show.
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>> Very first show. >> Laura Michael's ex-wife was there, which I didn't know it was his ex-wife and she
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was Rosie Schuster and she would call Lauren Dear and I didn't know it was her
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ex, but she was assigned to me a stand-up comedian, you know. And then I thought, well, let's do church lady. And
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she was actually, we said, we'll do a talk show. And I remember she goes, "How
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about we call it church chat?" And I go, "Perfect." You know, so but I had no
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idea it would kill. It was the last thing in the show. I've told this story before, but after, you know, for the
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dress show, the practice show, it was the final sketch. Rudy, it's not going
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to happen. You know, whatever. You know, I I Phil Hartman went to bat for it. So
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then it killed and then moved up. It was a complete fever dream. >> Oh, and then there were there was like
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merch. >> Yes. you were we don't do that here you know right now they have you know cone
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head oven mitts in the uh the store we've had you know now they have merchandising you know merchandise back
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then >> no Kevin Neil and I were offered uh a Nike commercial um just do it was going
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to be Hans and France just do it >> it's the same era right Hans and France
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because that was >> 88 88 89 and then we were told really it's not what we do here cut to 10 years
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They have Bud Light commercials inside the sketch. >> It's all about monetization. I love and
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I want to ask you about this. I love the when I see young comedians and they refer to themselves as a brand. They're
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doing commercials. They're they're opening up banks. I love the businessman
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artist because I think in the end of the day it's money is freedom. Whoops. Hot
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take. >> Well, it went from like you shouldn't do this, it's a sellout to
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>> cool. It's like overnight they go there's no sellouts anymore. It's like
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oh okay. So just anything. >> So what is your comment on that? Cuz you >> Yeah. Comment.
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>> You've had T-Mobile the big one of the biggest campaigns I've ever seen the
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T-Mobile. >> It's been pretty huge. I got to say the unique thing about the T-Mobile thing is
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we participate in in in making them. Not just we don't just show up on shoot day.
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We the big ones the Super Bowl ones we we shot like spec versions of them in my backyard and we would sort of workshot
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them. We would make like we would make them on an iPhone in my backyard and perfect and and as sort of
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>> you would show them and say, "Do you like this one? Do you like this one?"
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>> Yeah. We would There's a guy named Brian Clugman who's sort of the Don Draper of
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the Ca of all the campaign. He's the one who comes up with the idea, but then we
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kind of riff on it. We we because we're shooting on iPhones, it doesn't matter.
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We just do it and then we cut it together. We add the graphics. If we don't have a big star like we did when
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we did a spec one of Mamoa >> in post we put this big face of Mimoa like a bobblehead size and then move the
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mouth like South Park style >> and and so then we they have a total proof of concept before they ever buy
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it. Well, that's God, that's just music to my that's the greatest thing I've
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heard in a long time on this podcast. Just the idea of taking those people out of it, smart people. You two guys
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already have the chemistry, know how to work together, and you make it. Like I always tell people ask me, I go, "Make
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stuff with an iPhone." I tell them that don't don't go in and pitch. Make a lot
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of [ __ ] that and do it until you know it's great. Show it to your friends.
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How could people compete with We're doing it with the stars of the commercial. We're we're we're sitting
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there. We've shot 11 versions of the punchlines to to to see which ones work
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best in the cut. >> Right. Right. >> Um and then we have, you know, if you
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can use your imagination at all, you can get that that's Mimoa or that's Travolta
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or whatever. And then uh and then we and then they watch it and now they're used
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to watching. They're used to not having anything. They're used to looking at
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storyboards and going, I guess this will be funny. >> Pitching [ __ ] And do you say we
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would like this celebrity might be funny for this and then they go we can go get
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him. >> Yeah, we we'll we'll sometimes say we wrote this with Travolta in mind
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obviously and then uh and then they'll try and get them and sometimes they can't get them and and then we just swap
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out the head for a different celebrity >> and you get Webster. That is so great.
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And that's why they pop. That's why they pop. >> They popped because Yeah. I mean
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obviously the writing is good and the chemistry is good but also we participate. It isn't like Yeah. Hey,
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say this dumb line that you don't think is funny. Uh that that doesn't that
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would never work. >> 99% of commercial. >> Of course. I had a friend who's doing
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one and she sent me the spot and she goes, "We're shooting tomorrow. Can you
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help me?" And I looked at it. I was like, "I don't know where to begin to
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help you. This is bad." >> Blow it up. >> It's hard to change [ __ ]
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>> It's hard. I did one for Hans and Fron for a Super Bowl with Kevin Nean and we
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had a lot of stuff left over from the script and so we sort of suggested some things and at one point we were water
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skiing and uh Aaron Rogers is in a kayak paddling really hard. We wanted him on a
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speedboat. But yeah, it's great to just use stuff and then when they go for it,
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it's a it's a really good feeling. You know, >> all they want is their their they want
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their their stuff in their their their messaging. But as long as we get that in in a way that's funny, this particular
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company, I can't speak for others, is so collaborative and cool. >> And do they do they pay you for doing
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these commercials or just for the exposure? >> No, they they don't actually
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work. I like that you took that seriously. You go, actually, I think we do get paid.
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>> Well, to be honest, to be honest, as I mean, to be blunt, as a comedic actor,
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uh, you would do it for free because the exposure on the super >> Well, that's just one [ __ ] out there.
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You know, I did one, Zach, I was almost in your family. We um did a team I think
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it was T-Mobile. Yeah. With Brent Gellman. >> I told you this day. We shot it in
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February 2020 and it was airing for the final four >> and I think it was 90 seconds, which was
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even longer. It was fully written out. It was really fun. Brett Gman is of course bananas and we had a really we
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thought it was pretty funny and then it was co and then they go okay hang on people aren't doing comedy like right
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now it's too sad in the world. We're like, "Okay." And then the final four
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was cancelled. And then >> anyway, long story short, it got whittleled down to a 15-second Instagram
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ad about nine months later because they just said, >> uh, and then it took place in an
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unemployment office. And then that was the latest thing we couldn't air. Like,
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whoa, wait, we forgot everyone's unemployed right now. Like, and I'm like, no one's even thinking. I don't
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know. So, it was just tough because, but I really liked it. We had a great director. We had a great time. T-Mobile
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was great. It just co I mean there were some downsides to co if you look back. >> Yeah,
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>> there were some negatives. >> The world shut down. I don't know.
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>> Zack, where would you like to go in this interview? Cuz I >> I have a question. I have a statement
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for Zack question. Zack. >> Yes. Go ahead, >> Zach. I had a threesome with a friend of
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yours. >> Go on. >> That's a good one, right? That's a good statement.
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>> What are we trying to trend now? >> No. No. Sarah Chalk, I don't know if you
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know her from the show. >> You didn't have a reason with Sarah Chalk. There's no way
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>> we did in the wrong Missy. Whoa. >> Oh, is part of a comedy film. It was
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>> played. >> My brain was scanning like I know. Isn't that great? You're like David Spade. And
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then you said Sarah Chalk. The least likely answer. >> I know. >> Like on planet Earth. It sort of stopped
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when the cameras stopped rolling and I was sort of going, "Oh, is everyone just
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pretending here and they were like, "Yeah." And I go, "You tell me where you
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got to go. I'd love to." >> Well, I I just I'll set the stage a
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little bit researching you and I have a >> jack of all. I mean, you do a lot. You
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you do theater. You've directed Harrison Ford and Shrinking. You directed Ted
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Lasso and got a lot of award nominations for that. So, >> that's my play.
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>> You're a director. And then you're doing the halfhour show and you're directing
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those and then you're doing Garden State, you're doing movies, you're in
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you're in London with a play you wrote. I mean, it's I how do how are we
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supposed to make sense of that? Um I just am very driven, I guess. And I've always I've always believed early on
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that you can't just sit and wait for your number to come up. You have to be pro so proactive in this field, you
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know. >> True. I I'm always I'm always shocked by people that are just sitting there
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waiting for for their for their lottery number to be picked, you know. So I've
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>> such a tough business that >> so hard and so and I see actors that
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come in and and how hard it is to get picked and so I just from a very young age I was I was acting a bit as a kid
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and I saw how hard it was and I was just like I'm going to do all the things. I'm
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going to write. I'm going to produce. I'm going to direct. When I'm lucky
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enough to be cast I'm going to I'm not going to go to my trailer and and and do
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nothing. I'm going to sit on set and ask the director questions. I'm going to ask
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the [ __ ] grips questions. I wanted to like learn, you know. >> Wow, that's great. So, what was the
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first thing that sort of you go I guess I'm gonna I'm in show business. This is
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what I'm going to do. Well, the first thing he landed >> I got a pilot at 14 years old. Do you
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remember Bruce Paltro? He created Saint Elsewhere. >> Yeah. I was Grena's father and she was
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17 I believe and she was cast as in the show as like a the pretty senior in the high school and I was the nerdy
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>> leukemia. >> No, she was just a babe. >> I thought it was a doctor's show.
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>> We got threesome. We got Leukemia. These are two bangers. Okay. >> Oh, no. Stay. Elsewhere was his OG was
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his the show that made him famous. And then he created this pilot of about a high school. It was the same year 902
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and 0 came out and where they were the Beverly Hills show. We were like a rough, you know, New Jersey uh
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>> and that was my first thing and I and I didn't know that pilots didn't get
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picked up. I was 14 years old and I >> I got a gift basket that said welcome to
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the CBS family and I was like I'm in the CBS family. What are you talking about
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didn't get picked up? What does that mean? >> Then you were orphaned. >> How do you get into the show business at
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14? Christ sinks. We got a Mickey Rooney here or something. No, gone to uh I love
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my dad did community theater. My dad would take us into the city to see plays and they saw that I really liked it and
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so they found this theater camp uh okay New York called it's called Stage Door
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Manor >> and um if you're serious about acting and you're a kid it's it's a great
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summer camp >> and up there I had gotten scouted uh someone saw me and said hey I'd love to
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represent you and send you some auditions. There you go. That's how it happened.
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>> And I auditioned for a lot of movies at the time like Big and Parenthood and
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>> and um >> and um and um Oliver Stone's movie uh um uh >> Wow.
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>> a couple of Oliver Stone movies and so yeah. And then I and then I didn't get
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any of that and then this was the first thing I got. >> Is it sickening when you audition and
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then you you sometimes I wouldn't hear and then the movie would actually come
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out and I go, "Oh, I I guess I should have given up on that one." But I
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thought probably doing call backs and then I saw I think Dead Poet Society was the first one of my first first
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auditions >> and I'm like these oh these [ __ ] got it. I was pretty cool about it.
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>> Yeah, it was hard you know especially cuz my family didn't really understand.
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They'd be like what do you mean you hadn't auditioned for it? Why didn't you
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get it? And I was like oh >> what did they do? >> They would just you know they they would
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just be bummed. >> No, they said what did you do wrong? >> Oh yeah. I my my dad couldn't hide his
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disappointment. He would be like oh >> really? Yeah, >> I love it. >> He would try, but he'd be like, "What's
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going wrong?" Like, "Why aren't you getting more? >> Should you be doing this?
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>> Should you?" >> They believed in me, but they were like, "How do we how do we
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>> It's such an uphill battle. It's so tough to talk them into believing in you
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when you're when like I there's like no one doing stand up." They're like,
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"Wait, what's going on?" I'm like, "I think this might be the best pick for
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me." Are you sure? It seems like such a moonshot. Like I had a girlfriend at
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maybe 19 or something and I was like, "Let's go to San Francisco and watch
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comedy." Or maybe I was going to do a set at a little tiny club. And she she
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kind of very seriously go um are you really trying to do this? >> And I met other parents. Well, it's
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great you're doing standup, but this will help you with whatever you really end up doing. You know, it's just seems
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so Lake Bell was the thing that was bugging my brain cuz she she's exactly like you.
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>> Directing, creating projects, proactive. I don't know if you know her, but she
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was on recently. That was just bugging me. Who else is just like Zach? >> Yeah. I I advi, you know, when people
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when younger folks ask me advice, I always say that. I say, you can't just sit there and hope your number comes up
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now more than ever. It's crazy. Like that's >> Well, you can also point to Garden
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State. You can say like this was I'm sure you get asked about this too much.
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Was it Garden State or wh which was the one where you did the crowd sourcing? >> Oh, that was um Wish I Was Here, which
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is a film I put a lot of love into but didn't do nearly as well as Garden State. Garden State was the first movie
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I made. I had written blew up. >> I had written the screenplay and then when I got Scrubs, I thought, "Oh gosh,
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this is that that was that hustler brain of mine. I was like, "Oh my god, this
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even if this show doesn't work, it's going to help me get my movie made." And
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um so I sort of used the momentum of getting scrubs to at least get my script higher in the pile, you know, because I
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was new guy. >> And it's all about heat. It's all about like who >> someone can get your part a week later.
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They just they just their TikTok blew up and they're like, "We're going to get
00:22:03
that person instead." Like it's so fleeting. >> I see that. And and you and Garden State
00:22:08
was a big Was that Natalie Portman? >> That was Natalie Portman and Peter Sars
00:22:12
and Ian Holm. Yeah. It was a big deal for me. >> Love Natalie Portman. So, how exciting
00:22:16
for you to be able to work with someone is such a monster professional great actress.
00:22:22
>> She's extraordinary and and you know when you make casting lists uh for
00:22:26
anyone casting something you often put like well I can't say very what I do is
00:22:30
you make you put sort of an archetype and then you put a line and then you put under the line people that you think are
00:22:35
like them and I had written and I had written Natalie Portman, Peter Starsgard, Ian Holm and uh and I got
00:22:42
them all. I I got them all. And my my producer at the time said, >> "Just so you know, that will never
00:22:47
happen again in your career." And it never did. >> It's so hard. I mean, but they like
00:22:53
those sort of gritty small. If you can get someone that's already made it, you
00:22:57
can get someone that's like, "Give me something a little off the beaten path."
00:23:00
Natalie Portman sounds like a big cast. >> Particularly, they want something, you
00:23:04
know, big actors if they're going to be no money doing it for nothing in in in
00:23:10
25 days. They're looking for something that's different than what they've done
00:23:13
and that that will challenge them. I mean, I feel that way as an actor. I just did.
00:23:16
>> I went and did an indie for 19 days in Atlanta and it was something no one
00:23:21
would ever normally cast me as. And I was like, well, that I'm drawn to. I'll
00:23:24
go do that for no money for 19 days. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. Nice. >> You hope those get some attention
00:23:29
somewhere somehow. If nothing else, at least you get to flex some different muscle.
00:23:34
>> Exactly. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. Before we get to the scrubs, uh, part two or
00:23:40
reboot or whatever you want to call it. >> Revival. >> Revival. >> Feels good. Okay. Just tell us your SNL
00:23:46
story for a second and then let's go to that. >> I got to go to SNL because it always
00:23:51
been a dream of mine. I I I'm I'm truly a lifelong watcher and um it just always
00:23:58
been on my bucket list. And I got the call. I think it was 2005. I had a movie coming out called The Last Kiss. And
00:24:05
Scrubs was on the air and I my my stock, you know, you only get the SL invite if
00:24:10
your stock is pretty darn high. >> It's a great barometer. >> NBC the Scrubs at that point was on NBC,
00:24:17
right? >> Yes. >> Helps helps a little bit. It's part of our tribe.
00:24:22
>> You're in the family. Um, he seems to be he's has got a light touch on the show
00:24:27
and I think it'll do well here. I >> And that's in front of you. He's talking
00:24:32
to a picture of you and you're in the office. >> Oh, sorry. I didn't see you, Zach. So,
00:24:37
go ahead. So, you're blown away. You get the call. >> I get the call that I'm going to host
00:24:41
the finale of the season, which was Maroon 5 was the musical guests. They were also They were also super on fire.
00:24:49
>> Yep. >> And um I couldn't believe it. I I um I showed up. I was very nervous. Very
00:24:56
nervous because I didn't know how to be I didn't know how this all worked. Even
00:24:59
though I'm >> They don't tell you. They don't tell you. >> No one tells you anything.
00:25:03
>> How [ __ ] >> I know. We hear that a lot, >> you know. >> And then I showed up and there was that
00:25:08
meeting in Lauren's office where everyone goes around meeting >> and says an idea.
00:25:14
>> Yeah. And I really I was sitting in a chair, but a lot of them were on the
00:25:18
floor. >> Yeah. He got the king touch chair. Like I know what is Oh, go ahead.
00:25:24
>> Some ideas were like some of the ideas were like I was like I thought I didn't
00:25:27
know that these were just like everyone is sort of supposed to say something >> fake ideas
00:25:31
>> and they were just like they were all over the place. I was like what? I I
00:25:35
didn't even but but then someone told me later that like you have to say something and no one's really thought
00:25:40
about anything yet. >> And also you do not want to mention ideas so you can catch them by surprise
00:25:46
at the readrough on Wednesday strategy. You don't want to say yes. >> Big laugh at Monday meeting. Bomb and
00:25:53
read through. You know that. >> Everyone already knows the joke. >> Zack Zach is dressed as a donut on a
00:26:00
sidewalk and you know hitchhiking with a tomato. Christian wig, you know, like all that stuff.
00:26:06
>> It sounds like a funny idea and then you go, "Where was that one?"
00:26:09
>> Does Lauren ever go? Does Lauren ever go like, "Where was your Monday morning
00:26:13
idea? That was good." Or no, >> not really. He knows we're all playing a
00:26:17
game, you know. keeping our powder dry. You could mention, you know, maybe we'll do a
00:26:23
massive head wound, Harry, but you don't say what it is. You know, >> there's all the games. But it's hard.
00:26:29
Did anyone stand out for you? Like you were there cuz I that cast. Who was your cast?
00:26:34
>> That cast was arguably all the maybe the best cast. Let's just say it's in the conversation. Oh yeah,
00:26:42
Forte. Christine, Fred Armison, Sedakus, um >> Maya was still there. Maya Keenan, um
00:26:52
Amy Polar. >> Yeah. >> [ __ ] that's some home run hitters. >> Daryl Hammond was still there. No,
00:26:57
>> Adam Andy Samberg. Uh >> Andy. Yeah. So, yeah, it's like a murderers row. It's a murderer's row.
00:27:05
>> Then there's it's going to be your fault if it's bad, >> right?
00:27:08
>> So, what who How did you feel the day of the show? >> Well, I I got to before we get there, I
00:27:15
got to say I was really nervous because then they then there's the two is it the
00:27:19
Tuesday night you write all night long? >> Yeah. >> Well, I didn't know what to do because I
00:27:22
didn't know you know I'm not a >> what to do >> cuz you have the whole day off by the
00:27:29
way. They don't even start anything till like don't they tell the host what's
00:27:34
going on? >> They didn't tell me anything. The only thing I knew, by the way, this is a
00:27:37
funny story, is that I had done Conan uh to promote it and mandatory >> and I and I went and I leaned over to
00:27:46
Conan. I think it was during a commercial break or something. Yeah. >> I said, "Do you have any advice at all
00:27:51
for me? Because I this is my been my dream come true. I don't want to [ __ ] it
00:27:54
up. I'll take any advice he got." And he said, 'The only I can say is you're
00:27:58
you're gonna not believe that they're going to put a show on on Saturday night
00:28:02
by the time he goes, "By the time you get to Friday, you're going to still be
00:28:07
shocked at how little is ready." >> Disarray. Yeah. And it feels like a on
00:28:14
he said just go with the flow. He goes, "Every Saturday night the show goes on."
00:28:19
He goes, "Don't panic. Just go with the flow." And that actually that really
00:28:23
helped me because a Friday morning my monologue hadn't even been written and I
00:28:27
was like, "Wait, what?" >> Most people cry on Friday. Honestly, hosts cry. They go, "What's wrong? The
00:28:34
host is sort of having a breakdown." And you go, "Oh, that's about that time."
00:28:38
Because they're looking around going, all it says in my itinerary is like, "Tuesday at 6:00 p.m. for dinner at
00:28:45
Oso." And you go, "What about the show? >> I'm going to Horsos." I mean,
00:28:49
>> why am I going to Orso? Yeah. >> had said that she had to go in. I don't
00:28:55
know was she was still there. Was she there? >> Marcy was really helpful to me cuz she
00:28:58
helped calm me down. >> There were hosts that were in a curled up in a ball crying like 10 minutes
00:29:05
before air. >> You know, I was I definitely felt the beginnings of a panic attack coming
00:29:11
about um when like there was no monologue on Friday and I knew that I was singing. I knew it was going to be a
00:29:17
song. >> Oh, that's horrible. Uh, but you're very light and carefree. And I'm sure Lauren
00:29:21
is like, "He's got this." But even I'm sort of like that, too. But down deep, I
00:29:26
really want to know what the [ __ ] is going on. I really want to be ready to be light and carefree and know it, but
00:29:31
you can't plan ahead and memor and not even memorize, but just get a feel for
00:29:36
it. You have 13 characters you got to do. It's so complicated. >> So, little by little, the the monologue
00:29:41
came out and it was a song and it was very funny. It was uh it was a spoof of um New York State of Mine, but it was
00:29:47
New Jersey State of Mind. >> Okay. >> And which was really funny. I got to
00:29:52
sing uh I like to sing, so I got to sing New Jersey uh New Jersey State of Mind.
00:29:58
And uh uh it was fun. And then and then and then one thing I really remember and
00:30:03
I don't know, I assume he does this for every host, but the last thing that happened before I left my dressing room
00:30:07
to be walked behind the door was Lauren came to my dressing room. M. >> And he said, and I was like, "Oh my god,
00:30:15
is this part of the ritual? What's happening?" >> And it was the only time I've been alone
00:30:18
with him the whole week. >> Right. Yeah. >> And he said, "You're going to I can't do
00:30:22
the impression like you, but he said, you're going to want to talk very fast.
00:30:26
Uh, a monologue. You're going to be nervous, so >> take your time and and and really just
00:30:32
don't don't speed through it." And I was like, "Okay." And he just kind of smiled
00:30:36
and nodded his head. And >> it's kind of true, though. You get you get amped up. He likes It was it was
00:30:42
great advice because I I I that was the last thing that was said to me and I and
00:30:46
I it helped me slow down and not come out there or speed through it >> at all.
00:30:50
>> Lauren Michaels, I told him this last time I was hanging out with him, I said,
00:30:53
"You you you've downloaded the show. You're like an AI because in his
00:30:58
subconscious is like 5,000 sketches and 5,000 hosts, you know?" So, it's like,
00:31:04
"Oh, this one's going to try to be speedy. I could tell Monday. I'm going
00:31:09
to go in right before the show and tell them to breathe and slow down the rain. >> So So you come out, you don't you're not
00:31:17
in the cold opening. You come out for the monologue. Did it Did it score the way you hoped it did?
00:31:21
>> Oh, it it went great. I got I mean, are we singing I mean to me just singing on
00:31:25
a stage with a band in a bar would be fun. >> Well, could you sing one line of that
00:31:30
song for us? >> Some folks like to get away, take a holiday. All right. You can sing.
00:31:39
>> Miami Beach. Oh, to Hollywood. >> Yeah. So, for me, even doing that in a
00:31:45
bar with my friends would be fun. I never Who gets to see [ __ ] amazing band? >> So, I really I loved it.
00:31:53
>> And then I felt like once I got that down. >> Yeah. >> As a theater actor, I feel I feel like
00:31:59
the most nervous thing I have in my brain is going up and forgetting my lines. So once I was into the sketch
00:32:06
world and my lines are everywhere. >> Yeah. >> I felt like, oh, I can do this.
00:32:12
>> Yes. >> That's the hardest thing about a movie is like you have to memorize and then
00:32:16
when you get out there and it's just there, you just don't want to be a crutch. But it's almost impossible to
00:32:21
go, I'm going to drink up that Q card and just say it right here because there's no room for error if you [ __ ]
00:32:27
up. You you almost just kind of read it because you go, I can't screw up their
00:32:31
line now. If I say the wrong end word, >> they don't say their line. >> The thing I didn't know and and also
00:32:37
again I don't think I was briefed on this until like Saturday was that they're going to live cut lines for
00:32:43
time. >> Yeah. >> So you get if you if you don't look at the car, there were like lines that were
00:32:49
in the scene and they were like just you know uh we're about to go. Um three of
00:32:52
your lines are cut. Look at the cards. And >> and so then you look at the cards and
00:32:57
they're crossed out like things they were cutting for time live. That was insane.
00:33:02
Yeah, the only there was one host we had who really understood this and it was William Shatner. So William Shatner is
00:33:09
so relaxed and so loose the whole week and on the air show and he thought it was just such a silly exercise with no
00:33:17
real rehearsal lines live. He goes, "Why would you take it serious? You know, I
00:33:21
won't do it." But and that is the way to go with it. But you must have the crowd
00:33:25
loved you in the monologue. So that you must have rode that. >> Yeah. I felt
00:33:29
>> for the rest of the show. fell really high on on the adrenaline of that and
00:33:34
then I just felt and then my scene I was doing scenes with Kristen Wig and and all you know these legends and my
00:33:40
brilliant people >> and so I just knew like I'm I'm in I'm in good hands and Fred I had a skit with
00:33:46
Fred Armson this is the funniest thing and uh >> it was a great >> I love him. It was a sketch about how um
00:33:53
>> like an uncomfortable you go into a meeting in a studio and the assistant
00:33:57
person at the desk doesn't have anything to do but ask you if you want some water
00:34:05
which if you've never if you're listening to this and you've never been
00:34:07
to a meeting in Hollywood that that's kind of what happens. There's a person
00:34:10
sitting at a desk and you're sitting awkwardly on a couch waiting and they're
00:34:13
like would you like some water? And you're like no I'm good thank you and
00:34:16
then they're like are you sure you don't want water? and um and >> room temper cold sparkling
00:34:23
>> and little by little it becomes clear that that the assistant is obsessed with
00:34:27
me and Fred went crazy and um it the it culminates with him get kissing me and uh
00:34:35
>> perfect >> like forcibly and in the rehearsal he just did we just did like a fake open
00:34:40
mouth >> kiss >> and then live he jammed his tongue in my mouth. >> No way. Hey, where's the intimacy court?
00:34:50
>> That is a trick that they all learn is save something for air. Save it for the
00:34:56
>> crowd goes crazy. >> Oh, the crowd loved it. And to this point, >> if you had to pick one sketch to
00:35:01
remember from that years later, is that your one that kind of jumps out at you? >> Oh gosh, I don't know. There was there
00:35:09
were so many. I think that one was really good. I did uh remember the um thing Maya would do with the like the
00:35:14
Jersey women talking about the >> sweater weather. Oh yeah, >> I was on that.
00:35:19
>> You're gorgeous. You're gorgeous. >> Look at him. He's so cute. Look at him.
00:35:22
He's so cute. Yeah, they're great in that. Yeah. >> Yeah, that one was fun. Um I I I I
00:35:27
haven't thought about it in a second, but it was uh it was all very surreal.
00:35:31
>> So the cruise by in like one minute >> after Fred Armerson put his tongue in
00:35:35
your mouth. You did that. There's a roar, right? Because it it's a surprise.
00:35:39
the roar in the 8H on something like that. >> So that must have helped you also. You
00:35:45
didn't want I just didn't want it to be over. It goes by so fast and then uh and
00:35:50
then you're like do I get to do it next week? They're like no never again.
00:35:53
>> Also you're like now I know how to do it. Let's do it again one more time and
00:35:57
we'll nail it. You're like >> I'm going to make a prediction >> when your the new scrubs is out
00:36:06
>> and whatever. You know, I think Zack Braph, you know, he was a pro. I think
00:36:11
it's about time. >> I hope so. I It would be my dream to go back and do it one more time. I I I I
00:36:17
They were so complimentary to me. Marcy was like, uh, you know, I remember she saying to me, "You could have been a You
00:36:23
could have been a cast member, which even if it was [ __ ] made my [ __ ] year."
00:36:26
>> No, they don't say that to everybody. They don't say that to every host. No.
00:36:30
Oh my god. You could have been a a cast member. What can't you do? No, I don't I don't
00:36:36
know if that's true, but even her saying it made me feel really really good.
00:36:39
>> No, it's nice to hear >> because it's pretty close to being true
00:36:43
because you fit the bill. You could be a Sudakus in there, you know, just throw you in.
00:36:48
>> Well, are do you do accents and characters or impressions? >> Not so much. I I mean, if I auditioned,
00:36:53
I wouldn't really know how to audition with impressions. Uh um >> but do you throw your voice? You could
00:36:58
play a New York guy. Whatever. >> I can do that kind of thing. Sketch comedy voices. Yeah. But I can't do
00:37:03
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when it's working that I've ever done in show business is is you're killing on
00:38:39
SNL and you got a hold of a great sketcher with great people around you and it's it's air and it's really
00:38:45
working. It's finally really popping and this is going out live, you know? It's
00:38:50
like >> the highest. >> Yeah, >> it's the highest. I mean, it was one of
00:38:54
the high highlights of my life to be honest. It was so fun and and uh my whole family was there and uh you know,
00:39:01
it was very very surreal. >> Bring your whole family, you get two tickets.
00:39:07
>> It's uh and it's still there. You get two tickets. >> Can't stop doing Lauren. It's too
00:39:12
>> You guys ever go Do you guys go these days and and and just watch the show or
00:39:16
>> I was there last fall doing Biden and I did I did a church chat. So I I
00:39:22
revisited it. It and uh it's it's trippy. It's it's you know you have to
00:39:27
kind of get back in the saddle. Of course I was part of a forsome. It was Gaffigan and Andy Samberg and and Maya
00:39:34
and we were just sort of the four candidates or whatever. So right but it was uh it was fun. I mean the cast and
00:39:40
everything was cool. >> Chloe Fman. >> I went back >> 50th >> just to play Hunter Biden with Dana for
00:39:48
one thing. Oh, you were the church lady. He wasn't even Biden. He >> No, I did. I They wanted me to do a
00:39:53
church chat and David came on as Hunter Biden >> and that was fun. And then we did uh And
00:39:58
then the 50th anniversary was fun. >> Yeah, >> the 50th anniversary. Yeah, that was
00:40:03
what it was. And that's where you see everybody, >> right? and you go there and you walk in
00:40:08
and it's more fun. Doing the show isn't even as fun as just being there because
00:40:13
you're like, I'm back here and every person was a host or a cast member and
00:40:17
it's >> that must be so crazy. >> So crazy or a music guest? >> Is everyone doing bits around each other
00:40:22
or or or is everyone acting >> kind of just bullshitting and then everyone's just naturally funny on their
00:40:27
feet and uh sitting in the audience there's like eight people in the crowd. I remember we were just saying the other
00:40:33
day like sat in the crowd then Paul McCartney came up and sat like four in front of me. He's just watching just
00:40:38
nothing. And then Kevin Cosner standing in the corner. He's not even a host or
00:40:42
anything. He's just hey, what's going on over here? >> Well, everywhere you look is a famous
00:40:46
person. >> You can look up down. >> Yeah. It's like >> and you see people from your era of
00:40:52
cast, but of course you know the other ones like I would it's the only place
00:40:57
where I'd feel at home enough to walk up to almost anyone that was on the show in
00:41:01
the past and say hi to them and yeah >> it's usually pretty easy camaraderie.
00:41:06
>> There's a a spree decor for any anyone who we know we know what you did. you
00:41:10
were in the slats and the the makeup and the wig's not fitting and >> yeah, you're part of it now.
00:41:15
>> And the writers are hovering around and going your exit is earlier, you know. So
00:41:19
that woman who who I don't know if she's still there, but the woman who who runs
00:41:23
the the host around all over the place, she was incredible. >> Who would have been yours? Uh they run
00:41:28
you from sketch to sketch. >> Yeah, because she tells you um don't she
00:41:33
goes don't go anywhere. Just wait until I pull you somewhere because you have no
00:41:37
idea where you're going and then they >> Right. You're just at the end of a
00:41:39
sketch standing there while the camera fades the commercial. Everyone sprints away and you're like, "Someone ripped my
00:41:44
Velcro suit off." >> You're right. >> Cast for the monkey man. Cast for the
00:41:49
monkey. >> Cast for monkey man. 90 seconds. >> Cast for the monkey man. 90 seconds. You
00:41:53
know, get places. Cast for the monkey. You know, >> you're being led around.
00:41:58
>> Amy, Daryl. >> Yes. Lauren cameo. >> For those listening, they start with the
00:42:04
host. >> It's a blasting intercom for Gap Girls. David, Chris, Dana, Adam, Rob. It's so
00:42:13
fun. So [ __ ] fun. >> All right, let's get to this show. >> Yes.
00:42:17
>> Let's Let's >> We're doing a We're doing an oldfashioned revival of uh of Scrubs. um
00:42:24
>> the uh we got the whole team back together and um and it's been very
00:42:28
really really surprising uh because we thought we always talked for years we would do something maybe like
00:42:34
>> a little mini series or a movie and now it's back actually in prime time on on
00:42:40
on ABC Wednesdays at 8 o'clock >> and then it'll be on Hulu uh the next
00:42:45
day >> and um and they really they really believe in it so they're they're giving
00:42:49
it a big push. I read um two reviews very very positive. You know, I'm used to so much snark and it's like they were
00:42:59
kind of like, "Oh, this is Zach." He he picks it up right where they left off
00:43:04
and the timing of of you and Donald because you've done all the your friends. So, go ahead.
00:43:09
>> They've been very kind and uh and and really the thing was how do you get back
00:43:14
to it without doing nostalgia all the time? You know, we wanted to create the the vibe of the show, but we didn't want
00:43:20
to make a thing that was like remember this and remember this and remember this and remember that
00:43:24
>> because so how do you make the show current in 2026 but all but have the
00:43:29
same tone which was a mix of comedy, drama and fantasy. Uh which is tricky to nail, you know, the same vibe, but we we
00:43:37
I think we have >> and you have Bill Lawrence, right? And so were you they obviously you're the
00:43:44
lynch pin or you know the star show but >> did he talk with you early on a little
00:43:50
bit about tone and what we're going to try to do and >> yeah we said like you know scrubs was on
00:43:55
for basically eight and a half years and throughout the course of it it got broader and broader and broader until
00:44:01
things that would have been in a fantasy sequence and early on ended up kind of in the real world of the show. I mean
00:44:07
some crazy trippy things and some people love that stuff. It was more stoner comedyesque, but we really wanted to
00:44:13
regground it and say, let's let's let's bring this back to reality. We can let's
00:44:17
have our comedy set in a realistic, you know, urban hospital that doesn't have a
00:44:21
lot of money. It's about community. It's about a group of friends who in order to
00:44:25
get through this insane life of trying to save lives and losing people and uh they are there for each other. They are
00:44:32
friends. They they they you know, the theme song is I can't do this all on my
00:44:36
own. It's it's about community. And then and then within that you have drama and
00:44:40
you have comedy and then JD, my character, has these insane funny fantasy sequences. And so that was what
00:44:46
Bill and I talked about was like now you're the teachers basically because I'm 50 and and and when I started the
00:44:52
show I was 25 and um >> you look 40. >> Thank you. It's the great
00:44:58
>> 38. You look 38. >> I didn't have this gray beard. I might look 36. But but um you know it's funny.
00:45:04
Well, there's the there's two kids that are playing our interns in the show that
00:45:07
were born the year it came out. They were born in >> Oh, boy. >> Oh, passage of time.
00:45:16
>> So, fast forward. >> Oh. Uh, the um so right now in the ether, I was going to ask you St.
00:45:22
Dennis. Denn D, what is it? D N I S. How do you pronounce that? >> Dennis or Deny? I assume Dennis.
00:45:28
>> Deny medical. that's on and that's obviously I haven't seen it but it's
00:45:33
probably influenced by Scrubs maybe or just sort of happen circumstance. >> I think it's literally the cuz it's a
00:45:38
mockumentary so I think it's literally someone what if you did the office and
00:45:43
scrubs combined basically. >> Okay. And then the pit which is very different than what you guys are doing.
00:45:50
So >> the pit's amazing but it's drama and it's real time and is shot again like a
00:45:54
documentary. Um >> do you have a lot of deaths on the new scrubs? >> There is deaths. That's something we
00:45:59
don't shy away from because again like I said it is it's a dramdy. It's a it's a
00:46:04
mix of of comedy and drama. We don't want to sugarcoat uh what happens in a hospital. You know that's
00:46:09
>> I like a fun hospital. >> Well, you're going to laugh a lot, but
00:46:13
we don't shy away from uh from >> No, I know. I guess stuff does happen in
00:46:18
hospitals, but >> Scrubs doesn't is never a downer. It's a great it moments, but it's overall a
00:46:25
good laugh. I think if you look at Ted Lasso uh as a comp just because it's it's Bill's um show that sort of broke
00:46:34
so huge. It was it was uh it was such a hug, you know, it was uh it's funny and
00:46:40
you're enjoying it, but it also feels very heartwarming. And I think that that's his you know, I direct shrinking
00:46:45
and I direct his new he has a new show called Rooster with Steve Carell. I direct that as well. And so that's sort
00:46:51
of his his URA is you're gonna laugh, but also your eyes probably will well before the end of the show, you know.
00:46:58
>> Uh, obviously All in the Family, obviously Mash. I'm just thinking of
00:47:03
ancence to this. This >> that is a great Yeah, >> Mash is a perfect comp. Bill would say
00:47:09
it was sort of when he wrote it, it was Mash. Um, all Wonder Years. Um, yeah. a little bit of Ali Mciel because they
00:47:17
were the first people to do these weird fantasy stuff, you know. >> Yeah. >> Wow. How satisfying to be to be back. I
00:47:24
don't know. Has any show had a 16-year break and come back? >> I don't know. Recently Roseanne, I don't
00:47:29
know how long they were off, but they've they've had a lot of coming back. Um
00:47:33
>> that was sort of a different You've got Exactly. You've got all your people,
00:47:37
which is the hardest probably part to do, >> right? We got all our people. We're all
00:47:41
friends. We all love each other. Um it's two of the uh um uh original writers are
00:47:48
on the show. Um it's uh it's really it's really we this is another funny thing.
00:47:54
We used to shoot in an abandoned hospital and they knocked it down and made condos out of it in the years
00:47:59
since. >> So we rebuilt >> you shoot in condos now? >> No, we rebuilt the entire hospital on
00:48:06
stage. >> Oh, okay. So it's an actual sound stage. And you have our friend Vanessa Bayer.
00:48:12
Oh my god, is she funny. You know, Vanessa's so funny. I I I turned to my friend and I said, you know, Family
00:48:18
Matters wasn't originally about Urkl. You know, Family Matters is about a family. And I said, Vanessa Bayer is
00:48:25
going to [ __ ] me because every single thing she says, >> you're Ron Howard and she's the FS or
00:48:32
something. I don't know. I'm thinking of other >> Yeah, that's another example.
00:48:36
>> Michael J. Fox. >> Michael J. Fox with family ties. Yeah, >> family ties stole it. Uh, and also Sarah
00:48:42
Chalk, who I was joking earlier, very funny, great to work with, super fun. Uh, I had a I had a great time with her
00:48:48
and it was only two months, but it just looks like a good squad and and that people already like, already proven,
00:48:56
people remember. It's not that long ago, so it's not like a whole different like
00:49:01
it. Um, and by the way, would you guys guess Let's see if you guess right. How
00:49:05
many single camera comedies are on broadcast TV? How many the audience for the audience
00:49:14
who doesn't get that uh nonsitcom sitcom being in front of a live audience how
00:49:19
many single cameras >> single cameras >> means it's shot like a movie
00:49:22
>> so say just say three major networks um doing half hour shows >> I'll give you four four broadcast
00:49:31
networks >> four I'm going to say I'm going to I'm going to say it's a surprising amount on
00:49:38
the upside side. >> Oh, on the high side. >> Go for it. >> Okay, I'm going to say 24.
00:49:44
>> Why would you say 24? >> Because it sounded funny. >> He's trying to outdo your [ __ ] real.
00:49:50
>> He's trying to make my story good. Um, thank you. You're a good host, Dana,
00:49:54
because you're trying to help. >> It's 50. >> No, it's three.
00:49:58
>> Oh, it is. >> Three. >> Like that was going to say was >> three.
00:50:04
>> No, my point is like it's all moved to streaming. So there is there are only
00:50:08
three uh like this on broadcast TV anymore. >> Do those work on streaming or
00:50:15
>> they do. Yeah. I mean look at last lasso is extreme example but uh shrinking is
00:50:19
doing extraordinarily well. Uh >> your your I think your your buddy Maya Rudolph's show did really well. Loot
00:50:26
>> Loot. Yeah. >> Um I can't keep track of them all but they but that's where they're being
00:50:30
made, you know, >> right? And what is the cost between the two? the single camera versus the three
00:50:37
camera stage with the audience. >> So much more expensive because because a
00:50:40
sitcom is very cheap to make. You're not bringing in >> contained. >> Well, you're on one stage and you don't
00:50:45
bring in the crew until the last two days cuz you you you rehearse it without without any crew.
00:50:51
>> You have a lot of your sets already. You kind of rotate a few extra new ones per
00:50:55
week. >> Yeah. And then you're and then you're uh >> weather delays.
00:50:59
>> Yeah. And you're and you and then you really do you really film it one night
00:51:02
and then uh we we shoot we shoot 13 hours a day um for five days. >> Are you going to direct any of these or
00:51:10
>> I directed the pilot? Yeah, I directed the pilot. >> I'm sorry I didn't hear. Okay.
00:51:13
>> How did you find your performance in the editing >> when you watched Zack?
00:51:17
>> It was good. I was so nervous to be honest because it was a lot of pressure.
00:51:22
>> So when I when I cut it together and it was and it worked so well, I was so
00:51:26
relieved because >> Does anyone say it's a little Zach heavy? I mean, are you going to hold
00:51:30
that shot that long, Zack? I, as your friend, Bill Lawrence, I'm just asking
00:51:35
questions. >> You do find yourself sometimes when you're editing going, I like that the
00:51:41
editor chose to end the act on me, but I have to be honest, it's better to end on
00:51:45
John C. McInley, so I'm going to do that. >> Oh, good job. >> Oh, okay. So, the conflict of No,
00:51:51
>> he just doesn't want to get fired. He's like, started and ended on you, sir.
00:51:54
You're like, okay. >> All right. Well, Zach, >> yes. >> I was just going to say thank you for uh
00:52:00
taking time with us because it's always fun and uh >> ever since our dinner, we didn't get to
00:52:06
chat much. >> I know I haven't seen you. We had a fun dinner. We got invited into the castle.
00:52:11
Uh not a lot of people have been invited to uh >> cool saw inside the inner workings.
00:52:17
>> We saw the inner workings and uh that was cool. But yeah, thank you guys for
00:52:21
having me and and I really appreciate it. >> It's good to see you, bud. Scrubs. Uh,
00:52:25
it's out. >> And I'll just give my the specifics. It's Wednesdays at 8 on ABC and then
00:52:31
Hulu the next day. >> Wednesday on ABC and Hulu the next day. Scrubs, the alltime famous
00:52:39
>> half hour show. Uh, an all-time great show and now it's back. And uh,
00:52:44
>> Zack Braph, I'm going to give you with lighting >> 32. >> Thank you. I appreciate that. I'll give
00:52:51
him with just this random lighting 35 and a2. >> Thank you. I appreciate it.
00:52:58
>> With bad lighting and a tight raking shot, I'm going to give you 57.
00:53:03
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