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hey everybody welcome to Superfly there's Dana here and his Stark pad here's Spade and his pea soup green backdrop he keeps threatening to change
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but he hasn't yet i'm a minimalist i figured that out i'm a minimalist i think as you go along and you get to buy things you like and you do things you start to get that way and that's what
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I'm starting to get you don't need a ton of things i need elbow room uh you like your freedom like different things but
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once you have a car you got some clothes it's good for the economy you know that's all I can say if the whole
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country was me we'd be in a deep depression oh yeah i'm out there i do throw some
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back into the econ but I try not to get too uh too uh pushy about it this is literally not the word I'm looking for you were pretty close and it was kind of clear you don't want to say "Hey I got
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some beans in my jeans." Even though I'm showing off a teal pullover today do you want to mention the maker of the said sweater so that you may get a free
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one in the mail or I don't think I know i know it's teal and I know it's for real and I know I saw a basketball by
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even after a big meal i'm not made of steel but this is for real with teal dude we just lost a thousand viewers it's a big deal they haven't even gotten focused yet we're on in the background
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they're flipping a smash dude don't squeal so dumb adjust my camera yeah so here we are we made it to another Superfly
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everyone's stoked we do have a guest later and uh but right now I want to hear about anything that happened in the
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last week of note and it better be of note should we test should we tease tease the guests sure no go ahead ladies and gentlemen can you do a drum roll
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sometime ladies and gentlemen in a little bit we're going to have our good buddy the one and only really the hardest working man in show business been with us
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america been a star for a long time still looks like he's an high high school senior rob Low roblo Brett Packac roblo Brett Packac um but first
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well D I I had an observation oh good okay so what do you do like there's this really nice guy at this place I go to for breakfast and stuff and he's one of
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those people that really likes to laugh okay so he'll say something but it's just prefuncter information but he'll
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laugh like as if it's a joke and am I supposed to laugh like like I walk in he goes "Hey pal normally you come
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earlier." [Laughter] That's awesome that's awesome i'm like and then we're leaving he goes "You know you should adopt
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me." What the [ __ ] i mean he's the greatest guy with an incredible sense of humor but it's just informational i want to give him a joke or something i know well I think
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the problem is we're comedians and the same pilot that said when I got on he saw me and then he goes "Hey we got our 737 on the LEGO hope our door doesn't fly off." You can't do
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jokes like that just for me because everyone goes "What the fuck?" You know it's not funny to some people and then
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when I'm also ordering and if you're a comedian anything you say you go "Do you guys have eggs here uh before 10?" And they go "Yeah."
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What just You mean Yeah just Yes is fine he just likes to laugh i think it's very
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sweet but I um Yeah i like that he's laughing at everything that's like people that write LOL but after what
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they say yeah i mean it's it's it's sweet but I feel like I I want to give my like my joke with him is like "Hey where where's Bob cuz you can't be him
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cuz you must be his younger brother you know you look so much younger um than I when I saw you last time and it wasn't my best joke but at least it was somewhat humorous yeah you're at least
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some reason to laugh like a Q- line like here we go yeah I know it's awkward sometimes but it's still it's fun sometimes like people text and they go "Hey like I get an offender banner with
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a guy and he's like "Hey I guess I should get your insurance lol." And I'm like "Yeah." And he goes "You weren't
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hurt at all were you lol." I'm like I don't know where we're stopped joking and it's serious i don't know what's
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going on you can't put LOL on everything well laugh out loud used to be a big bar laugh out loud funny before these little
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memes came in so most things are slightly humorous we got to We got to come up with something I guess sh slightly humorous that doesn't have to
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mh minimally humorous minimally humorous or KF be good kind of funny not a put down but not a compliment but laugh out loud an almost nothing
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i made almost no reaction by the way no one's making reactions they're just saying they bother putting ro
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mapping my [ __ ] ass i go you don't have to go through all those hyronics to tell me you're not even laughing at
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all well I don't know where were you do you remember the first time you realized you could add these little hearts or
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little pictures a little dog or the first moment you said "Hey wait a minute i can tag this just English language
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print with all this stuff." I used to put like 50 in there for my age I spent way too much of a part of my day looking for emojis maybe two that's what they're called emojis emojis no I put R O I put
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roll on floor falling on ground lit on fire with a bear trap on my nuts that's how hard I laugh did you just make that
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up that's pretty good not bad right usually I think your libids are kind of pre-planned you know you got little note card up yeah Heather's holding a note she scribbles a joke and holds it up
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read it yeah but that was that was actually was pretty good yeah I'm always looking for where's the parachute
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where's the [ __ ] big rock where's the ball of yarn the [ __ ] I send people to this you put all your work into this
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stupid [ __ ] time it's always funny to say "What's up [ __ ] face?" You know just always good you know i like that or
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That's good my pronouns are um what's up [ __ ] those are your pronouns yeah those are my pronouns i put my pronouns are and I put
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yarn and then the [ __ ] alien guy let's be honest your pronoun is teal sweater dude everyone's buzzing about this uh call back yeah it's pretty sweet
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but I don't want to overdo it i don't want to hear it in the comments i'll block you by the way i'll block the [ __ ] out of you i don't take Have you ever
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read the comments and then realized the next morning damn I cried myself to sleep last night yeah I think we overall
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I figure that people watch them and do comments as it's going because it's as the show goes on it's now new subjects
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they're talking about sitting there like yeah they're just like kind of funny don't care for that one and then they're like teal actually isn't a color of the
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rainbow boy I'm just glad they're engaging that's the thing you know I guess it's good
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yeah it is fun to hear the thoughts because I'll read the thoughts but if they get too out of control and too
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rough then you got to because people go "Why would you block me?" I go "Well I I'm here to have fun i don't need someone saying something horribly crazily negative and threatening or
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something." You go "Obviously I'll block you." Obviously I assume it's two high school kids let's get the Tommy boy and
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the Wayne's World guy man he goes "Shut up Ryan i'm typing just shut up tell them literally anyone I DM that that I
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get pissed off if I really can't take it they're like "Oh my god I'm the biggest fan in the
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world." Are you though and that's what you chose to write that's what you picked and you thought that would fly have you ever posted something critical
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online of sane an article YouTube yeah no I could I could imagine saying I disagree or I don't know what you're But I wouldn't say anything where it would
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be so rough this guy in Michigan was writing me saying "I'm going to bust every bone near your body with a baseball." He was like literally threatening to kill me over and over and I just wanted to I should have posted it
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just to say because he's in a band and I wanted to say "Hey this is I'm just posting this to show your friends this is what you do in between band breaks you've got a psycho behind you on the
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drums cuz he's writing all this [ __ ] he's like then you see his pictures he's at practice i'm like quit acting like you're a nice guy fish it's usually like a wedding or
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something the girls that send me the dirtiest ones you should go to their page it's like them at their wedding a week ago i go
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I just the anonymity hey look at that word you know can do whatever you want i mean I I feel less alone i get inspired by the comments if I'm watching a Beatle
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thing because you know I'm kind of that's fanatic and it's like John Lennon's in my life or whatever it is
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and then the comments are just like I thought I was the only one they're just like "Oh these this band is a miracle
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that you know." By the way I swear to God and it sounds like I'm lying i was going to dinner we talked about the Beatles so much i thought I've never
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asked Dana because you like so many Beatles songs if you had to love in my life in my life but we never mention it but it's a
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great one is it Lennon I remember I loved you it was in an old Jodie Foster movie I think and I remember hearing it going it's a you
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know the silliness is that John Lennon is like 25 you know and it's about his life he's
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just a kid yeah um and you know obviously it's the melody and the lyric now that is the one Beatles song or
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there might be just a couple where Paul and John remembered it differently so Paul remembers you know there's the middle eight lovers and friends i
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went I love you more so Paul feels like he was a a big contributor or an important contributor it's it's very len
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you know that that first part is so len you know I don't there are places I remember you know just but um that's one we're going to have Paul back on oh yeah
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we're going to ask Paul to come back on i want to get Ringo on too cuz when they came out of the gate after the Beatles
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I don't think it was John or Paul that had the first hit was it i thought Ringo sort of came out big and no one expected
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it and so did George Harrison is that true no okay but they're they were Thank God it wasn't Paul I was saying this [ __ ] to i just remember
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that Ringo I I think would have been the one they wouldn't have expected from and then he had Photograph which is a
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[ __ ] killer oh that was in the that was in the the 70s he Ringo had Ringo a true star I think it was called big hit albums for sure but back at the
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beginning you know they had Pete Best and they had to let him go and they Ringo always was a fan of theirs like in
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Hamburg Ringo is with Rory and the Hurricanes and he would he would hang out at the club brought someone from the
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fan club in he he just liked them and Paul they didn't see Selena John would would bring the songs to Ringo and George Harrison in the early days it goes like this goes like this then
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Ringo's genius was picking the perfect drum thing to that song thom they were like me brothers they were like me brothers love me brothers who had the first hit after the You got
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balloons who had the first hit when the Beatles broke up go obviously I don't The first mega hit was I think um Band
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on the Run no George Harrison's All Things Must Pass his double album is still the number one selling post beetle album and he had a hit on My Sweet Lord
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oh that was a [ __ ] killer yeah McCartney did had massive hits and Ringo and John i mean if you you look at Dream Number Nine and Imagine and uh Watching
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the Wheels you know Lennon had his you know I love that song i'm just sitting there watching the wheels go round and round no but Gervitz took me to see Beatles
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not Beatles but a McCartney and Wings Killer what year was that i'm sorry am I rich we're sitting up close i'm sorry are these good seats must have been the
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Wings wings broke up in the 80s I think as a band but the latest incarnation of Paul McCartney's
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really I couldn't have seen Wings at the beginning i thought this is where people in the comments i thought Paul McCarten
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Wings was in it was this band has a name of a band but you know well I would have
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been I can't even say these numbers it's too embarrassing uh but okay let's do a
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few stories and I'll leave should I do any stories yeah oh no we got to do um Should we just bring out our guest and and end it there yeah and just so that just so people know and more of a tease
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don't don't do the laundry right now oh I don't do laundry we're just going to discuss a little bit the recession
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that's happening for all the different people who work in Hollywood not not the movie stars and so Rob's very uh he has
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some insight into that he does his hit game show in Ireland for a reason it's much you know you you listen to the podcast yeah and I'm going to ask him a real question is Bulgaria a real place
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because I always hear that country and I I got into my head I couldn't find it on a map
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money rob Low likes money you don't like money i was just on the phone with him i said "I got to go go you know go help
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team team Gervitz with the two star clients." You know you do that you call me right back you are the right You're the star
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client because you're you're a hard worker we like to take naps and take months off at a time you actually work i
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Yeah rob Low he always tells me I could tell Rob low and he'd say yes right now you don't like to do anything he You
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hate money yeah I guess you just don't like money just don't like it rob I just did a
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thing i ran into Shaquille O'Neal and he goes "I don't know if I like that sweater you got on." I go "This is teal
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man it's for real." And uh and teal's a very expensive color i tried to trick him and uh he goes "Man you walking
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around trying to look like Rob Low." Why would way for real oh that's so Isn't that funny the last thing I saw Robbie was running on the beach with a shirt off because of course
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I go on Daily Mail because I'm addicted to the Sure you got it to the madness and it's not You don't look average you don't look normal no you look you're
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looking good he's He goes that Tom Cruz like whatever that is tom Cruz i I love Tom Cruz the guy's brilliant but he doesn't take his shirt off anymore does he in movies no well cuz he's smart i I
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took a lot of [ __ ] i was like my wife was like you did really god damn it i I would you know it's like I I said frame it correctly like there's there's a certain level with
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which the framing reveals you know that I'm in my third trimester that I'm you know of life or your
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pregnancy but my of my um of my donut belly you were coming right at the camera side angles are the worst you can look in the mirror and look at yourself and go "Damn." Then go side angle whoops
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that's where all the sins are you know Tom Cruz runs with his hands straight up and down like this for less wind
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resistance in case he has to crush somebody and he usually runs for about roughly 15 to 20 minutes through every
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movie in a full sprint every take yep i'm like "Okay well I want to ask Rob he knows his way around the movie business." And I have a question for Rob do because I would say if I ran into Tom
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I'd say the most impressive thing if it's real is not hanging off the airplane it's sprinting with that kind of authority at 60some because the hip
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flexors so do you think they do slightly speed it up a little bit no um I was I Tom and I I think both I think I I could be wrong but I
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think we both initially learned to run from Alio Estz's running coach there's a guy named I like how you're the only one that calls him Estee was this for The
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Outsiders what What movie was this this was it would have been post outsiders and it was a guy named Milan Tiff and he
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won the triple jump okay in the uh he was in the 1968 uh famous 1968 American Olympic team you know the Mexico City where Bob he went 292
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bob Beam set the record i guess the triple jump may also have been a world record or close yeah i'm not sure if he
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won there but he was on that team and then and anyway we were all training with Milan and he was a big the hand
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thing was the big thing and then you also make it a flap by the way there's this and then you make it like here you
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make it a little flat flap down yeah dolphin move yeah um Hey what about this uh Breakfast Club reunion did Why don't you guys have an outsiders reunion um
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well we're do you know we're doing St elma's fire part two we are going to do that what no you are st elmer's FUD St
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elmer's FUD and everyone's coming back for this everybody's coming back i mean we we got to get the script right i mean
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you know we've all we've all been there for that one have you got a draft that you read and said "No no draft yet it's
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due any day." You you were never really a Brett Packac guy per se right because you had too many other things going on i
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don't I don't consider you part of it but you crossed over with it or were you i mean I think I I I mean I know this
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that I'm I'm on the cover of that New York magazine article that coined the Brat Pack okay so then you were part of the Brat Pack i mean as much as I would
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like to deny it but you know what i I like I I think it's cool but having a totally a name like those were great
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movies they were John Hughes movies and great movies great movies hookie Hookie uh name for your club mayor Winningham Ali Shidi yep she's a great actress ali
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I know it all you know you know who's in the St elmer's Fud yeah now that's good but did you see this Breakfast Club that
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was kind of cool it was great it was so cool to see them on stage i haven't been able to to see or find the entirety of
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the interview i've only seen the clips but it was super super sweet to see everybody together and hear them talk
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about the movie it's Eclipse World which one of those if any have blocked you go ahead all of them
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anthony Michael Hall has blocked you that I find hard he is a nice dude i did have him on Literally we had him on Fly i did he was great he Fly he was He
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was great he And um charming smart yep great actor always was a great actor he's amazing in that movie breakfast Club for me is the best of that moment
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in time that was a Yeah that movie holds up pretty cool idea thatgeist of the 80s
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perfectly that was the one if you have Teacher Paul Gleason was great amazing [ __ ] grab some wood bub why they don't make movies like that anymore
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i don't like it it's all dog [ __ ] how about they don't how do you like that i'll sign you up for a movie like that you want to do a movie sorry go back into Gerbitz all right uh now Rob we
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were going to talk to you a little bit about the state of the state because nothing too heavy because we're all a
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bunch of idiots we literally don't know we started with his comment about the floor it's hard to interject but that was interesting
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right the floor is shot on Mars with the space origin it's easier for us to shoot
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on the outer rings of Mars no [ __ ] than it is turns out that that's less cost prohibitive than shooting it in Los
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Angeles um you know I will tell you this Rob just to for sure interrupt you yes i
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did a game show which those game shows are kind of interesting because they can always come back snake out snake eyes snake oil don't No don't do that uh
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snake oil and uh you know David uh the thing is you need to be careful when you wear a hat on a on the the one sheet
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is that is that a Lauren thing it should be cuz it's true i saw you in the in the
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straw hat boater and I thought Oh that's right i had a straw hat going snake oil riverboat gambler maybe um not sure you
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know it's the hat and cane thing it's It's very stubby K uh it's very early it's fine if you're Hugh Jackman and you're in the music man but if you're you're This is your best Lauren i
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haven't heard you do it in a while it's actually a good one admonishing me for my poster
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but but outman was that's where because it fits Lauren's rhythm so you Jack you know it's just unless you're tap dancing Jackman but I think what you'll find
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is you're not you don't want to be Clue Gallagher before 1960 so only Rob knows who Clue I do not know who that is i like the idea that Gallagher how does Tarantino do it he
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gets these guys from nowhere puts Clue Gallagher in I don't know if it was Once Upon a Time but whatever but anyway it was Once Upon a Time yeah my story was before I was so rudely rudely made fun
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of it's your turn go it's not really any story it's kind of like Rob's the funny thing about that was we met one night to
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talk about doing the game show first of all these guys are all great at Fox and then they said it's you know we talked
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about what it would be and it's sort of kind of interesting idea and they go we do it in LA which is not that hard i was like great so the next day we go to make
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the deal and Gervitz goes okay here's the deal points and you shoot it in Ireland i go wait this wasn't even 24
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hours later Mark it's been already even moved to Ireland so the joke was you were hoping Tarzana like what Rob said
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is that they just said well it's it's cheaper and the bigger picture here is I get a lot of complaints and a lot of concerns of course we've got a lot of talented makeup people here we've got a
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lot of union guys why aren't we doing more here and it's really a big problem that everyone kind of skim jobs over but it's a problem and people are leaving town this is what I'm here for i've been
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able to a number of times say if I'm doing it I'm going to do it only in LA i did that with 911 Lonear that was going to move to
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um it was going to be in where it took place in Texas it was going to be in Austin sure and I was able to keep that
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production that's Unreal seasons right five seasons i was I turned down an amazing U series that was going to shoot in New
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York i asked them to move that to LA and they couldn't do it so they just didn't make it at all um and because I have we
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know those people that make the you make the make the movie business work the technicians the grips the the electrics
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the drivers the caterers um they all moved here for one reason everyone's here because it's Hollywood
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it's tinsel town and we're losing that and we can't just have high taxes and crime you got to have something to
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offset it and it's like oh it's Hollywood we make movies we got to be here and it's hard to keep arguing that
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when they keep going we got to make it incentivize it right and listen it's not like California is gunshy about throwing money at people no [ __ ] so I like what I
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like my favorite is the way they draw the line here exactly we'll throw money at every in class of person that's ever
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been invented but when it comes to the people that make Hollywood go that's the most famous thing about the country i
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think they're going to have to prove their Here's 20 billion for homeless actually we lost but it's somewhere and
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then they go Hollywood you're going to get 750 million aren't you excited i'm like for the whole [ __ ] we can't have a
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B in front of it nothing that's like four shows you do one Avatar that's 400 million well and also you don't know if you're going to get it that's the other thing right it's that's really the other
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thing because you you can't even What are you going to do to go into casting pre-production all of that stuff hoping you literally hoping you literally actually win the lottery and
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it is it's a lot yes it's bananas it's like I mean look don't get me started on the state of the state this is the idea what are the There is one metric that
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that is a little a side step i read about that the cost of living in LA you know for all the people we're talking about a basic home is about a million bucks in Los Angeles County i believe
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that and so that's another driver of people kind of going I don't know if actually all these people who make
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movies the grips the crews everything whether they're moving out of state cuz well there's more production in Atlanta so I'll just I'll step outside that
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thing but uh Austin it has to be a cause select it would have to be someone tanking it on and funding it that we
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have to at least match the incentives sure which there is a bill and as state assembly yeah even if it's a push yeah
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there's a bill there's a bill now um that apparently is going to be really really helpful my understanding of it
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and I haven't I haven't read the bill itself but my understanding of it is that it would make California at least
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on par with New York yeah New York does more than us right right now oh god yeah because I never hear I hear Boston a lot i hear New
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Orleans i hear Austin um a lot where they're making it very easy eric there's there's also things like this is where you know there's a there's there's enough blame to go around equally and
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look I'm I'm a believe I the IATS crew are the greatest artisans and technicians in in the world but the unions I think also
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have to come to play ball i I I I just saw a study of a movie that was you know granted I don't know how long the shooting schedule would have been for because that would affect the number but
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their number for their grip grip department which for those of you who don't know the the grips are the people that build the sets move the walls do
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all the construction the budget was $59,000 for run of the movie in Hungary in LA it's $59,000 for the key grip
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so and how many grips average yeah i mean 10 you can see you can you can see why you know if your goal is to get your movie made your goal is to get your movie made right yeah i mean we did a
00:31:30
small movie Bus Boys that Theo and I wrote and we I asked said "Can we do it in uh LA?" And Theo was nice enough to
00:31:38
say cuz he's he's out in Nashville spends a lot of time in Austin and we were talking about Austin then I said
00:31:44
"Is there any way we can do it here i know it's just a drop in the bucket it's a small movie but just the idea we're
00:31:49
doing it here." And selfishly I like it here but it's also like I can't I got to practice what I preach i got to try some
00:31:56
movies are set other places and it's hard to cheat but uh it's hard to cheat Hawaii if you're in LA you know whatever
00:32:03
but we did it here and every single person on that crew is coming up going I love that you guys are doing it here i
00:32:09
love cuz we have nothing we just it's everyone's scraping by and I think we're not here to really complain and [ __ ]
00:32:15
about everything we're just trying to say people should just know about this and I don't even know the easy fix
00:32:20
there's no easy fix but [ __ ] it's Hollywood the other thing I would add I would add is is we're going to be fine
00:32:27
we you know it's sure we have the ability to to go to different places and do things like that and we fight to keep
00:32:32
it in LA and sometimes we have the weight to do it other times we don't and these subsidies don't go to the stars they're not subsidizing you or me or
00:32:43
there's what they are subsidizing are the working men and women that make this industry work and I I think that there
00:32:49
can be a misconception it's like all these you know very famous actors are getting subsidi it's not us that are
00:32:56
getting subsidized it's it's the the people that that need it the people getting crushed i think 18,000 jobs have
00:33:03
been lost in the last few years we had the pandemic and then we had sort of a recession and we had the strikes and I
00:33:09
don't I don't have enough information to know the input of that whether some of the studios said okay we get that we'll
00:33:16
just go to London we'll go to Ireland so it is very complex but those are the people we're talking about who laid down
00:33:22
roots in LA have worked here for maybe multiple generations and the work is really dried up it's a severe recession in the interior of that business i mean studios have never been this actual
00:33:33
physical studios are just sitting there so um we you know we want to keep it and
00:33:39
we want to do it in the smart way but I if Rob wants to run for mayor next time the cycle's up i'm you know Karen Bass is you know she's doing fine but I I think that I would I would support He
00:33:52
hasn't read this bill so it'll fit right in great i'm I'm already I haven't read
00:33:57
what's in it but I like it i love it yeah I'm with you guys like the three of us don't get affected as much even Buzz Boys we funded ourselves so it was a little more but at that level it wasn't
00:34:09
uh that much more but when you get these budgets that are you know 50 million obviously these movies are getting
00:34:15
bigger and bigger and 50 100 million the competitive threshold is 30% you can get 30% of your book back it's that high wow yes that's that's sort of
00:34:31
the stand that's that's you know basically Atlanta England Hungary Canada and look it it fluctuates a little bit sometimes it's a little bit less sometimes a little bit more my
00:34:44
favorite is now is "Hey you're going to go shoot it in Toronto." And then you get to Toronto and they go "Well actually you're shooting it in
00:34:50
Hamilton." That's outside of that's the new Toronto there's no Hamilton is the new Toronto
00:34:56
because there's even more money to be picked up more nickels more nickels lying under the maples up there in
00:35:03
Hamilton because you're 60 miles outside of Toronto so even Toronto's not good enough now i mean when the bean counters finally have their way with us we literally will be shooting in space
00:35:17
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business terms with that tax credit say you're going to make a movie and your budget is is 10 million and you go to
00:38:11
one of these countries with this this tax break all of a sudden you have maybe 30 you have 15 million in in a sense to
00:38:18
spend okay so that's right on actors on grip and and on housing i mean I I think
00:38:25
um I forgot well the other no also also what it does Oh Rob this is what I was going to say sorry is that it benefits are let's say you're doing it in Boston
00:38:36
we did grown-ups out there the benefits are there's the tax break for the city which they have to cover but all
00:38:42
everybody comes to stay in their hotels they make money everyone goes to eat every night they make money you're going
00:38:48
around the city you're buying groceries everything is being helped in that city and that's the idea to get you there and
00:38:53
then you see the city maybe you want to move there one day so all that is a plus so that's kind of how they rationalize
00:39:00
it but here we have so many facilities and so many ways to make a movie make it really really easy and then it just
00:39:07
starts to dry out and I'm not going to say it's fully gone but it is it is alert it's in distress i mean we it it
00:39:14
is our tax base it it it creates a lot of revenue and it is global fame it's a global attraction um although I've been
00:39:22
you know I mean the Hollywood side is still there yeah but but the ecosystem of it you know um
00:39:28
the car wash that goes out of business the the the smaller restaurants the catering companies that go for
00:39:35
every it trickles down that people don't really understand they they think Hollywood and they think stars and and it really isn't about that it truly isn't because like I said we'll always
00:39:48
get the phone call to go somewhere but you know my my guy that does all the wardrobe for
00:39:55
my show or who does uh you know does all the lighting that phone is not ringing and they got kids in school and it's brutal it's brutal so something will be done because it has
00:40:07
to be done and uh hope who could who could be listening to this podcast governor News who can do something new
00:40:14
so what are your analytics like on this podcast who who's who's listening who's in that like could they give you that
00:40:20
sample single women under 25 no it's uh we have a mature audience people who vote and pay taxes and you know I'd say no we have a we have a pretty older crowd it's probably split down the
00:40:32
middle men and women and uh in all seriousness since we're doing it if you're listening to this in California and you're so inclined uh
00:40:43
pick up the phone and call your uh congressman uh or more importantly it would be your state it would be your state representative because right now it's a state issue so call your your
00:40:56
state representative really seriously just email them drop them a line that that really moves the needle people
00:41:01
always think "Oh well I'm just one person." But you know they you know I was on a I I was on a show called The West Wing and I learned a little bit
00:41:07
about politics and they have a metric it's probably changed in the 25 years but if one person f calls they look at
00:41:15
it mathematically that that means that is the way that at least 10 other people are feeling who didn't call makes sense yeah well what about the governor is
00:41:28
that another is that a place to start too yeah it seems like it seems like he's on board with this now um but he's
00:41:34
going to need the votes that's my understanding so I think we we I think the governor is on board it's but we're
00:41:40
going to need the votes i've seen like I said I think there are people that don't want to help Hollywood even in California i mean Hollywood does a great
00:41:47
job sometimes of stepping in it and making us all look like buffoons and sometimes it comes back up and I think
00:41:54
that there are people that don't want to throw a lifeline to what they consider Hollywood frivolous yeah it has a bad
00:42:01
image doesn't it n listen you watch you watch enough award shows and I can understand these pampered self righteous
00:42:09
clueless mory said it all at the his famous so good oh my god one of the great and funniest moments you could ever see on a YouTube clip i could never not love it thank you God and [ __ ] off
00:42:22
you know nothing you've been nowhere it's like you know nothing you've seen nothing you people tell you what to say
00:42:28
they tell you where to go they tell you what to wear don't tell us anything about anything so get your little award
00:42:35
thank you God and [ __ ] off amazing i love him well maybe we'll let Rob go because he's very nice to jump on and talk to us uh Rob we miss you just quickly anything else i mean you always
00:42:49
have so much going on don't you do other another podcast no whatever seven things literally is is going strong um I'm loving doing it get it
00:43:00
wherever you get your podcast i started really paying attention to filming it like you guys do um which is a bummer
00:43:08
because now I have to make sure my toup pay is I mean I met my and my hair was I
00:43:13
give you my guy you're the one who said the best hair in Hollywood in history was it who has it well I think I I thought it was Richard Gear but you said it was someone else something O'Brien I
00:43:25
think i don't know maybe I'm transposing different conan Conan's hair is pretty [ __ ] good conan's hair on the Oscars
00:43:32
was amazing that's my hair per That's my hair girl oh she did a great job on it i
00:43:37
like on one specific thing he was great on the Oscars sometimes on his podcast it's not his best day but he's always
00:43:45
great but he was great on the Oscars yeah I love him he's insane you always have You always look at mine's not too
00:43:51
bad today they get mad when I say I look at my hair but Dane and I were arguing that when you're in here my face looks
00:43:56
all all bright from the goddamn uh light in my eyes and then the hair but the hair's got a little flip to it
00:44:04
Rob has such good hair he covers it up he doesn't give a [ __ ] i'm like [ __ ] if I had that hair I would never put a hat on again i know that's that's a great
00:44:11
irony is is I I've got good hair but I do like my Well when the Dodgers win the World Series I got a sport they got a
00:44:18
good They got a good chance they're they're pretty Then you have the uh the hat that said NFL on it or something
00:44:26
just go teams it's actually funny go teams go teams i want everybody to win we did uh we did one movie up in Toronto but we were pretty much in Toronto i did
00:44:37
two in Toronto it was a Tommy Boy story tommy Boy was in Toronto and I'll tell you another thing all of the Brat Pack
00:44:43
movies you talk about all of those all John Hughes movies were in Chicago they they were in Chicago yes there were tax breaks there's always been tax breaks this is not a new thing which has
00:44:55
gotten way way way way out of control yeah global thing now but there was a thing where everybody everything shot in Chicago for in the 80s um but it wasn't
00:45:06
it for every one movie that shot in Chicago there were still five or 10 shooting
00:45:12
there's a Chicago backdrop too to some of those Blues Brothers out there yeah john Houston is there he was Yeah i have
00:45:20
one question before we let you go do you literally no pun intended or whatever does the show The floor take a a hundred Americans and put them up in Dublin or
00:45:33
where so you import this audience and obviously they don't have Irish accents when they win or they come up and that's
00:45:40
still cheaper to bring a hundred people on and put them up uh yes and um and listen Gordon Ramsay did all the all his Master Chef stuff was in Ireland for
00:45:53
years some of it still is but um you would be uh I think I think beat Shazam i mean you it's it's a it's right now they do it first of all they do it very very well they know what they're doing
00:46:08
they're top of their class the experience is great um and I love it but at the end of the day I you know I would like to you know keep our our industry alive if we could but at the
00:46:21
Listen these companies have a fiduciary responsibility they're they're not in the charity business they never will be
00:46:28
they never were and you know I I I get why they why they flee California by the way all businesses California makes it impossible california makes it impossible exactly if you're a
00:46:41
successful business you're kind sort of on the enemy's list we don't they don't like that yes 100% and how do we squash
00:46:49
it i tell you what you do nobody changes until they're in enough pain right whether you're whatever your thing is in your life change is hard a lot of times it makes requires tough choices facing
00:47:03
truths you don't want to face whatever it is and it takes being in enough pain to do it maybe our industry and
00:47:12
California in particular is in enough pain to finally make some changes to what is unsustainable uns absolutely unsustainable absolutely and just compete in the free market you know
00:47:23
we've got places to compete let's let's keep stacking the whatever they're doing we should do like let's make an even
00:47:28
playing field when Chuck Chaplan When Chucky Chaplan Yeah chaz came to LA and the Hollywood Renaissance there and Buster Keaton they like the weather play like you know I mean those are romantic
00:47:39
times but we just have to compete and I know we can and um I want to thank you both for being um on Dana today this is a sub podcast we have now let's start
00:47:50
the uh superfly thanks for being on David and Kelly Rob great to see you bud if you ever No straw hats I got the message this is all about telling me no straw hats no you
00:48:05
know the cane was really the bridge too far i mean they say hold it for one picture out of a thousand they only need one i literally was like I'll hold this for
00:48:15
two seconds they're like we'll never use it we'll never use it if you were driving down the box lot and you see
00:48:22
that huge you're like "Hey is that Jiminy Cricket was that also a Was there a chicken in the background nice try Rob let's not make it worse than it was there was no
00:48:35
chicken i think there was a farm animal i said no to the chicken i think I'm just saying if you're listening to this
00:48:40
podcast please Google spade snake oil poster yeah yeah yeah lauren had a whole It's a killer you know David the other
00:48:57
thing is um barbershop quartet is a line that it doesn't scream comedy it sings it
00:49:08
uh okay that's enough out of Rob i'm now getting mad okay thanks bye Crazy Man this has been a presentation of Odyssey Superfly is executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade Jenna Weiss
00:49:21
Berman of Odyssey Heather Santoro and Greg Holtzman hope you liked it [Music]