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Ray Romano like yeah Ray I like that we just had Ray on Ray is a good buddy of mine we did the
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uh we did standup together the Mirage last is a great standup very smooth funny standup hosted SNL was it twice
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twice yeah uh had some great sketches a classic sketch in there we won't give it
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away with Tim Meadows I don't know the name of it they're Sports casters yep
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Sports Center crazy funny and we break all that down and we go through his kind of his we break down to like powder we
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break it down so in the tiniest bits it's like sand yeah we break it down like this is how I went to the club then
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we break that in half this is how I got dressed we break that these are the shoes that I bought the night so we keep
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digressing eventually we got him back to a he's just born and his mother freaking
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he's done Ice Age he's done he just directed and co-wrote a movie that was
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very good no [ __ ] Dane and I both saw it we both without knowing it saw it and not comparing notes and on the
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podcast I have to say I thought it was a very interesting movie it is a bit of a
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roller coaster it's not just funny but it's it's kind of a tearjerker in places
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that was fun because I knew that we both love the film so we kind of go over his
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career in SNL because I didn't want to come out with it but at the end I think
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he was excited or happy because we legitimately love the movie and it's a lot of stuff for parents you know it's
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not like a dark drama but it's dramatic and it's funny at the same time and the
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name of it is somewhere in Queens somewhere in Queens I was going to say night at the
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Queens we turned into CIS Eber you know movies to me sis schol or I you're the guy that's Ray mono is also
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uh um yeah especially when you look at his resume especially humble and real um he didn't really get a breaking Show
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Business till he's 36 he worked at a bank till he's 29 so his story is very
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interesting and God he's done a lot after everybody loves met his wife at the bank met his wife at the bank and uh
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you know let's put it eventually he made a deposit on it okay sorry spoiler alert
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spoiler alert Dennis Miller will sometimes appear yeah on the podcast so Ray here he is Ray Romano you you know
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him you love him you know his voice and uh he was very uh very interesting to have a nice listen and remember 10 and
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two pull over and finish don't go to work or don't go into the store pull
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over and finish the whole goddamn podcast yeah and the commercials are really funny we don't like pauses we're
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not the pause guys there's no no 30 second going forward not with this podcast do that with the other guys play
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that [ __ ] I we should do a podcast called The Other Guys kind of like the will phoh
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movie we just remake that movie I think the camera went off 20 minut they're out
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of film film what 192 he's like is there a spider [ __ ] Heather wow Smash It and
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kill it to [Music] death there's no pre there's no pre- interiew no to prep no no way to prep
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it's just being in the moment real can I can I bite a piece of bread while we do
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this yeah yeah is that is that disrespectful no not not at all especially because you've announced it
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now people listening all over the world by the way will be like that's cool he
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told us what was happening he wasn't having some kind of jaw jaw dysfunction right from my eye doctor I
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haven't had breakfast yet it's all right I usually eat all you want I talked to
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Dana for the first 10 minutes anyway oh okay so I discovered spade and Dennis Miller discovered was it Chris Rock or
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who did he or he also Schneider did anyone discover you in a Lynch Penny kind of way back in the day some club
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owner some big- time comic Hey kid you're gonna make it you may not have what do you mean like how did you
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discover those guys well recommended them that's a strong word Dennis not discover that's the wrong word but
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Dennis Miller he saw faadu thler and told Lauren Michaels about him right I believe right it's that kind of
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thing networking that's a big thing I'll answer for you because Ray's eating Ray
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was performing at probably the Sellar and he got yeah but I'll tell you one thing I'll tell you one thing before I
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got to the Sellar I was I was at the Improv I was just a kind of a still still a late
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night slash one you know maybe get on the Regular Show comic at The Improv and my buddy joh you know John
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manotti David I do yeah he he was a regular at the seller and on one Friday night some gu somebody cancelled they
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didn't have a guy blah blah blah they had a and the the the the the owner said
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who can we get down here and he said there's a there's a new dude at The
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Improv that's pretty good and they called he called The Improv and he called me he said can you get down to
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the seller in [ __ ] 15 minutes you know and I said yeah and I raced down there I
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got there and and that then became the seller became my club you know that was but but he's the one who got me in there
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I don't know if you count that you count that as anything yeah I'm gonna I'm
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going to count it I'm going to count I know there people disagree with me but
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so just for inside baseball so the The Improv which Bud Freeman had 55th in BR 45th Street 44th and Ninth
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44th and the seller was in the Village Street yeah so it's like a 10minute cab
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ride to at least maybe more maybe more 20 minute cab ride to Comedy Nirvana that could be your book If you ever read
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a book Dan I have a I have a technical question for Ray cuz I I I only I only met people at the Improv when I was
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staying out there and they said this guy Gary Grant could get you some Road gigs
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if you fly out there so I do two weeks I take a Subway to two times sare walk to
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the Improv sit there and meet some comic like you or some wasn't you but someone
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that was established would drive me to like BF pakis in Jersey and I would do yeah yeah 20 minutes and I'd get you
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know 60 bucks so in two weeks I could clear $500 which I did and it was great but the Improv stage it is is it
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elevated at all in um New York it does it seems like it's in the corner bit little bit it was yeah I mean that
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now it's an Italian restaurant The Improv but but what do you mean is it elevated yeah it was it looked like the
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one in La was like you walk upstairs and you're like you know you walk Three
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stairs I I was scared of that improv I got humiliated there once because I was doing the Mickey Runa show I was like
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25 and I was going to do sets at The Improv and I'm doing all my dancing around and singing and doing little
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funny moves and funny little voices and I thought I was doing really well and then a guy old guy probably 40 came up
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to you and go I like you you get laughs kid but they don't like you and he pointed to like 15 Comics hanging out on
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the other side of the club what they don't like you they don't get you wait
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the New York improv that was the New York New York improv yep 1981 oh that was before that was before
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me but I do remember when I was coming up in there I remember you coming in Dana and this is when you were on
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SNL and you did so you did a spot and you were yeah you were the big guest star and I remember I think John litz
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was in the audience at The Improv was at the Improv also and so you you on stage
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said how do you guys like litz what do you think of John Lovitz you were asking the audience to see to get a reaction Al
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the dash fine now you have to bring you have to bring me up to try to get a laugh they like me better I remember
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yeah I was a young dude then thinging Ray who who were the good guys when you were starting who was like on the Slate
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Jerry no at at The Improv no Jerry was never there I never our path never crossed wow The Improv at The Improv was
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like Allan havy and Ron Daren I remember Chappelle was just start starting you know um Chris Rock was just
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kind of starting then and then at the seller you know I was more when I ran into like John Stewart and Louis
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CK um but you know the seller is the club that I still go didn't you shoot your what was the
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name of your your was Netflix special you started the set at the seller and then you walked to another club during
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the special another seller that's the annex of the Celler yeah it's around the
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corner it was it was called right here around the corner called jaunt and it was just a quick jaunt Ross were you and
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uh were you quick to get kind of what you would call your voice and like the way you do stand up now or was did you
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work with props and puppets and stuff and then get into your thing or was I I had a couple props God when we Dig Down
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D props I had props I had a you had a prop right what a puppet I I had no I had a I had a little duffel bag of uh it
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was it was at the end of my act it was at the end of my act and I would do Impressions I would do um the kid you
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always wanted to sit next to during a physics exam and it was nerdy hat nerdy glasses interesting and I would and I
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and I would turn around and do the old reveal clo and did he talk nope NOP he didn't
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talk it just visual all visuals so it was it was just a set a set four I think there were four things it was the the
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you wanted to sit next to during a physics exam boom funny set that same kid's mother I did his mother what she
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looked like and it was just wig with cat glasses you know so one after the other
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yeah and and then I uh I did with the wig and the glasses I don't know if you guys
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remember uh the Mets were uh this was 86 so the Mets were in the World Series playoffs and there was a woman who sat
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behind home plate who tried to distract the pitcher by doing this rolling her hands around and she was prominent if if
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you watch the game sure on camera like this so with so with the wig on and the glasses I did that woman also oh God
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what a tricky laugh are these getting equal laughs are these just all killing they they're doing they're doing very
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well yeah and then the closer Not only was props but it involved music I um mhm said the op now of course the counter
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the alter the counter to the nerdy guy was the cool guy who would come into class and it was just it was sunglasses
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sunglasses and half a cigarette and when I put my back to the audience a lot of back to the audience so far back to the
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yeah when I put my and this would crush when I put my back to the audience I would they would play the theme to um uh
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eye of the tiger and it would be D and then on dun I would turn around and then on each dun my um I would move
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my head so I had glasses in the cigarette inspired go ahead the second one yeah and well then when the dunce end
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he would I would do with my lips I had the half a cigarette I would swallow the cigarette like that wow true swallow or
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fig swallow no no I would just flip it with my lips into my mouth and it just it crushed you're the kind of a guy I
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would hate to follow oh my God he walks off and goes follow that [ __ ] wait a minute I had one more I had one
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more one more prop and one more impression and it would be a nuclear explosion and I would take
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the rubber band uh that I don't know if you know this in broccoli in the supermarket the broccoli rubber band
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they're fat it well I would get one of those well and I would put it on my head
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and you could feel it creeping up so as it was creeping up my head you know the pressure of it I would do the whistle of
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the nucleon and when I would time it so and it would it would snap up my hair into a mushroom cloud it would be like a
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little bit like a mushroom cloud and and very seldom did did that not oh super kill well that damn I mean I know this
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sounds kind of crazy but uh are those bits still around for higher I mean I got a couple Nickel in my
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pocketam visual there was one day on on you know when I when I got the TV show what you got a TV show what was that
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yeah yeah okay I got everybody those R and Letterman Letterman was our producer you know so I would do Letterman at
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least twice a year every year the show was on so when I was running out of material
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stuff one of those spots about five or six years in I I recalled that the all those Impressions sitting next to okay I
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you know I just showed Dave this is from the old days blah whatever and they crushed again I'm not joking that would
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have been good on Star Search because it's quick it's [ __ ] score yeah and
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you get your l you get four stars you move on I got um 1.5 stars on Star you did star surge I Star Search I lost to
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uh I lost to G gei guyi guy jok grenade yeah did you do it did any of you guys I
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I didn't do it but did you use those bits on Star sege cuz I can't imagine
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you losing at all I did I did you know 90 seconds of of stand up and it didn't
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work and you know you get a two you know it was one to four stars right so you get you get a two just for showing up
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you know and I got I got three two two2 and the last person gave me a one so it it it averaged out to one
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point set record that's the most dismal score I've ever heard of on Stars no I
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mean that's that's cruel how do you how I ask people this how did you deal with
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uh stuff that didn't work well in your career like that thing like did you you
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were you injured for a week mentally or were you just W go they don't know what
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they're talking about no I would yeah it was a blow it was a blow but the the
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story is actually has a happy ending uh um because my wife was pregnant with my first kid my daughter and she was do
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about four weeks from from what that so I fly out to LA to do star search and you know if you win you you come back
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you you go the next week week but but they film it like a couple days later so I would have had to stay and stay if I
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won so I lost and I told my man my manager we were going to stay for a couple days I go let's just go home and
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when I went home uh my wife's uh water broke and she delivered the baby the next day so I was lucky to be yeah did
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you kind of intuitively rate the baby at all with stars you know when you saw your kid sorry well you know was funny
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what was funny was they she was born in the city I like it she was born I was living in Queens and she was born in the
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city you know and uh so I was going back and forth and one the second night I went to the cell just to say hello to
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the guys and I went down in the basement and you know Mike Sweeney you got know remember Mike Sweeney anyway yeah
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Mike Mike Sweeney was there and he saw me and he goes uh Hey congratulations man and I said I said no didn't you hear
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I lost I thought he goes the baby you [Laughter] [ __ ] show show [Music] buiness Ray I audition for Star Search
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at the mall in Arizona and they go big audition I thought Ed McMahon would be there he was not but they just had like
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a cattle call so I waited line like a chump I and I wore a white sweatshirt that had a bat on it like a Batman not
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even a logo that said just Dana it was just this outline of a bat and I thought that signified comedy somehow I don't
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even know why like Batman like I'm I don't know so I go up and I do my bit
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you know they're just running a camera and the guy's reading a magazine and
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everyone just goes up and does like two minutes and I thought literally when I even got to my second joke it would be
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like a movie he'd look up from the magazine and then on my third joke he'd
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start to stand up and then on the fourth joke he'd like hug me and say we got him
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and just like shut the place down and say you're going to Hollywood literally
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no one looked up I did my ACT no one called me I go and even for like two years I'm like it takes a while because
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they got to get the tapes and they got to review them and so I never got on God damn I wanted that one bad I wanted both
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you guys had the young comedian special on HBO which I don't know if it still
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exists but that was kind of a big deal and I coincidentally host yeah hosted Rays yeah yeah I didn't know that and I
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I just my blink about you then was just the confidence and I've gotten to know
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you a little more over over time but you came across so confident and right as I
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was about to go out to introduce you you said uh you said uh do re reintroduce me
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as Regis so I don't even do an impression of you but so I did reges filming uh introducing did I say that
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yeah you said do reges I want I want to be brought out to reges and you crushed do you remember who was on that one
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Janine garfo yeah um help me out Kindler Andy Kindler Andy Kindler who's hysterical
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comic Nick depalo yes another great guy Bill Bellamy Bill Bellamy and and Jud Appo
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yeah really Jud was on that one I didn't know Jud was on any of them Jud was on
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that yeah and did that did that help you that's that's kind of a boost back then
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there wasn't much going on and HBO was a big deal yeah I mean I had I think after
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that I got my own half hour special they did those half hour specials sure so I got my S my my own special um it was all
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good but um you know the thing then was to look to try to get a development not to try to get a development deal but
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that's what was happening and um nobody was offering me anything I had done all
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the I had done all of those things you know the HBO The Young comedians they you start to get nervous because you go
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I'm out of like tricks here they they've all seen me yeah yeah that's what I
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thought it was like about 11 years in and I thought well um no one's offering
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and then it was it wasn't until you know I got I got news radio I got you know
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hired on news radio and then fired on day two and yeah so it was it was right around that then where I was like
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wondering I love doing standup if I'm if it's not going to happen it's not gonna
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happen but then Letterman I got my first Letterman and and Letterman made it happen you know it it was Letterman or
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nobody were you fired or were you it when when I looked it up it said you left there to go to your own City come
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like the writers from there yeah yeah that's what it says on on Wikipedia so
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we we're going to have to challenge this one look good never I've never seen that
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ever isn't that great no I've never no I was Stone Cold 6 o'clock in the morning
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my manager called me at the hotel and said they're going in another Direction
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you know what was that direction that phrase who played you who played you Joe Rogan Joe Rogan yeah yeah so in a
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parallel universe you're hosting the world's biggest podcast right now we both we both made out all right I
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guess you know you know Ray uh Dana back then I would say going on The Improv I was just trying to kill but with Ry the
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more important thing was which I couldn't really understand they're just
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looking for a personality back then to write a sitcom about Tim Allen had Tool Time so like this is his act he's like a
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tough guy and they could they could see a show around that I was just concerned about doing good and getting laughs and
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then you have to look at the big picture like Ry they see his whole Persona up there say we could see him as this and
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do a whole show around that and I think that's what happened right Ray well I
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mean like I said nobody was was was interested except for Letterman I mean I don't know what he saw I was just like I
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guess the every guy you know um but I had a really good first Letterman spot I mean as hard as I am on myself it was it
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was one of the better spots I've had on ever on TV it's so good it's so there's nothing
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like it yeah and Bernett Bernett Rob Bernett called me on the following Saturday it was a weekend and he called
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me and and he said listen we're they liked it we're interested uh don't don't
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sign with anybody else and you know I told them there's nobody else you know easy to get
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yeah how old were you at that point I was like 30 36 maybe yeah and and they sent me to La you know I had
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three kids then I had three little kids I had the Twins and the and the three-year-old and um and they sent me
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to La and I interviewed with I I met with about 10 potential showrunners and the first guy I wanted
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uh turned it down the first guy was well a a writer named Michael borow who who was writing on friends at the time and
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friends was the hot sexy show so I got all I got all you know seduced by that and he was cool he was you know uh he
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was single though he didn't have a family or anything and I went we offered it to him and and he passed on it h and
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then Phil roseno was my second choice and you know if if that doesn't happen I
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don't know you know who knows yeah did you ever have a moment because it's sort of a theme in the show of
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maybe trying for Saturday Night Live because everything in hindsight like when you you're two hosting things which
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we'll get to I mean you were great like a great sketch player you know did you
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have any kind of designs about that that because it's either the sitcom path in
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those days or pure standup or I I kind of I kind of knew I wasn't a a a really pure sketch
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guy you know I didn't have voices and characters and and and I didn't know but
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but did I dream of being on ssnl yes I did I did uh um you know I was uh 17 18 when it came out and we we stayed home
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and watched it every night every every week um but I I never thought I was going to be a sketch player an audition
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I never asked my manager get me an audition for SNL because I kind of knew I didn't have that that muscle in there
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you know um but I wanted I wanted to be on it it's very hit I mean it's it's a
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cool road if you you blow up on the on the classic show Everybody Loves Raymond and then they call and then you're gonna
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go host so your first thing is just hosting that's quite a privilege you know yeah yeah it was I mean it was
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probably I think it was year two maybe of everybody might might it was 99 mhm so so three it was year three actually
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were you a hit out of the gate on on on the Raymond no no we were we were on Fridays the fir you know for
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the first 20 20 21 of the first 26 episodes we were on Fridays and we were in a 100th place and then the only thing
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that was keeping him from canceling us was the reviews were pretty good so you know Le it was Les Les moonz at the time
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so he kind of hung on to us and then he gave us a five-week trial at the end of year one he put us on after
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Cosby um and Cosby was you know the their hit and he said that you know we knew that that was our trial that if we
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didn't deliver then we were gone and we actually went up a tick from Cosby and
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we stay wow was Cosby at some point did I read this right that at a given point he
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would get 50 million people watching his sitcom maybe that first one the first this was the second this was the second
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one you know I don't know I don't know about 50 that's that seems like a lot
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but I got cancelled at 25 million with one of the boys with Mickey Rooney going back to that one more time they go we're
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stuck at 25 million we're out of here really yeah that was now if you get now
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if you get one a million you're a hit right if your parents watch just shoot
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me 700 million bigger than the Super Bowl every week no when you look back the ratings
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even on Rules of Engagement oh a few people remember thank you um that uh we got you same thing every you know it's
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just typical the ratings at that point made us get on the borderline of canceled today would be huge but it goes
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down when then people go I got picked up we got a 0.09 I'm like that's great yeah
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yeah know what the ratings are 09 doesn't sound like a lot of something yeah I don't either I used to watch
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every anything out of a 100 out of one out of what I don't I would look them up
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every week man and I would check the numbers every week yeah and uh now I yeah who knows I can't tell what's good
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and what's not good did you call that hotline and it would give you the ratings yeah yeah I would call something
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I remember I would call something it would make your day or it would crush you it' be like oh yeah yeah yeah yeah
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and we got for our finale the equation was this we got uh if you took Seinfeld's finale and subtracted Friends
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finale that was the numbers for our finale yeah like L exactly perfect buddy yeah it was good it was good but
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Seinfeld got like 75 friends got like oh close to 50 or whatever we got close to
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30 you know yeah huge damn hug that's just gigantic that's bigger than the
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Oscars I saw a sketch I saw a sketch you did Ray about a sports center I mean we
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don't have to get in all the sketches but there was one when you were Tim yeah
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yeah that was I mean that's the one that's the one is that the one really
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because I you know when you look them up they're on YouTube and you jump around
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but that one well that's the one that has a little bit the barest H nugget of a of a little bit of
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a cult following because of the the sweet sassy molasses I wonder if they say it on TV and sports center now
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because it's so [ __ ] funny that was very inspired uh you know the the new the sports guys they're at the desk and
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I'm starting to watch it and then uh I see the turn and I go oh damn that's
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really see it coming yeah and then you landed it so beautifully Ray I just like yeah well we I have to thank uh Mike Roy
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was one of the writers on on Raymond and and they all flew him Phil and one other
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writer flew with me and Mike kind of threw that together like a couple nights before and we we we we all then worked
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on it but he came up with that and he came up with the sweet sassy Massie you know and um and it worked and you know
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the guy it's it was a Tim meals was playing Stuart Scott I don't know if you
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real guy yeah yeah unun yeah booah and sadly you know he passed away right but he he had cancer
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and and but I saw him probably a year before he passed away the first time I ever saw him and I didn't know whether
00:30:06
he was going to be into it or not but he was all he couldn't have been more flattered by it he was he was really
00:30:13
cool about it yeah um but that's the yeah like every now and then I'll be at
00:30:18
a golf chat tournament and someone from the side will yell out sweet sassy molasses so Ju Just for people who may
00:30:25
want to look it up sort of two news they start Sports casters they start to use all these
00:30:32
colorful phrases to report the games and Ray's character takes it in this but he but he's known for the
00:30:40
character that Tim meows is playing is the real guy who for that who was known for having that catchphrase booah yeah
00:30:48
you know whenever he would narrate a clip or something and he has cold side of the pillow stuff like
00:30:56
that right yeah yeah the real guy is booah and then your guy is Sassy Massie I was I was bringing him I was the new I
00:31:03
was the new guy and I tried to match him with sweet sassy Mass yours had some racial stuff in it
00:31:10
that he wasn't happy yeah it's funny when I look back at it I'm like there's
00:31:14
no chance I don't know if we would have wrote that now you know yeah and then
00:31:18
and then the second the funny that was the what happened was the night before we flew in for
00:31:25
SNL uh was the go I think it was the Golden Globe Awards it was one of those Awards and Roberto benini won and he he
00:31:35
jumped up on the chair you know and he and he went crazy and and I was looking at him and I
00:31:41
was thinking I they I could look like him they they could make me look like bonini and on the plane there we we we
00:31:50
threw together the sketch that was the second one up that night was the Roberto Roberto benini comes into the restaurant
00:31:58
and goes nuts you know yeah was was there any that was the same show same show it was it was that's good out of
00:32:06
the gate boom boom for Center first and then bonini was next yeah that is the thing about SNL uh dim store observation
00:32:13
is that stuff is thought of and then it's fully mounted 24 hours later and on
00:32:19
live TV there's some the immediacy of it is there's something very good at it
00:32:22
yeah yeah yeah it it was awesome I mean it was it's a challenge you tell them I
00:32:27
need to be Rober they're like yep and then got it you walk in the next day and they got you
00:32:31
all dialed in you're like where'd you find this outfit well we matched it with
00:32:34
he wore at the Oscars we matched it with this we got the wig from here and you're
00:32:38
like [ __ ] man these guys know what they're doing so you're jumping around
00:32:41
like that did you get hurt at all you're two time your hosting times on sketches
00:32:45
did you get hurt doing that I mean anytime you're doing physical and it's
00:32:49
live and your brain is thinking of so many things you can fall down and stuff no I I didn't get physically I'm happy
00:32:56
to hear that yeah mentally mentally you look so beat up that was a question I want that's my
00:33:02
number one question for today did you get her did you guys did you guys take any any blows in the whole time well I
00:33:08
don't know if you can see it I got a bump here I had a Grade Three shoulder separation doing a pre-tape pratfall as
00:33:16
Dan Quail the vice president going over the otoman like the Dick Van djk show and I just crushed it and then I was I
00:33:24
went two more times not knowing and then I'm walking around like a pirate with my
00:33:29
shoulder way up and Mary Tyler Moore's husband was an MD and he goes hey what's
00:33:33
what's wrong he felt it and said I think you got a shoulder separation so I went
00:33:37
they checked it out but it was just barely on the edge of a surgery but I did a show the next night it was very
00:33:42
painful switching cloes really fast with a separated did you do that bit did you
00:33:47
do the bit well that was a pre-tape so it showed in the pre-tape pre-tape did you get hurt David I got
00:33:56
hurt twice one was uh Schiller Vision if you weren't in the sketches he could
00:34:01
pluck you for a day shoot films and I was me and Victoria Jackson We older people and he Dr and bad luck they drop
00:34:08
an atomic bomb lands on my head but they did it from a ladder and I have a bad neck and it's a jammed neck and so him
00:34:15
dropping this thing no matter how heavy it is it wasn't that heavy but it keeps
00:34:19
racking me and they keep doing take after take and I almost can't stand up anymore I'm like I feel like I have a
00:34:24
concussion I'm like I I can't do this anymore but I can't say say anything cuz
00:34:28
I just want to be on the show yeah and then Farley picked me up backwards we fell through a table and motivational
00:34:33
speaker and then uh I sort of got rocked Farley pick me up is a tough where does
00:34:39
that go and by the way it's not super thought out in quotes so he's like I'll
00:34:44
pick you up and we'll kind of spin around and fall through a table I'm like
00:34:47
sure and whatever happened you just cross your fingers but uh yeah you weren't hurt during Ice Age were you
00:34:54
doing that voice over yeah I was you were the you were the mammoth that was a big one are they still doing them
00:35:03
or is it over don't you want more we did we did five of them five yeah five no
00:35:09
never never well you've done I mean you guys have both done animation right Transylvania did four and I'm like do
00:35:15
one more [ __ ] secret life pets when you did it did either of you have other actors in the room with you
00:35:22
because I never did for five movies no Nobody David you didn't have what's craa
00:35:29
lacking you didn't have Chris Rock in there no no I never did I we talked to
00:35:34
Andy Samberg who's in Hotel Transylvania and I said I told him I thought Miley
00:35:39
Cyrus was first GNA be Selena your Selena's part which we didn't even agree
00:35:44
on that so who knows if it's a lie and then he said I never actually got to do
00:35:48
it with Selena and they play boyfriend and girlfriend husband and wife right and he and I'm like all four never he's
00:35:54
like no we don't even do read throughs anymore you know we used do one read through the beginning and then I I just
00:36:00
get pieces right I don't didn't really know what I was doing or what the movie
00:36:04
was I didn't even know the plot just start yelling people would be saddened to find
00:36:08
that out I'm just a Mad Dog I don't know and that was it and I see it I see it at
00:36:14
the premiere I go what I know I mean listen it's it's great to do it you know
00:36:18
especially you got kids and all it's fun but it's it's really creatively not that
00:36:24
much fun to to do them you know you're and you can't even you can't move away
00:36:30
from the microphone too much you know you're trying to animate yeah you're
00:36:33
trying to act I'm trying to be a mammoth sliding down a ice Glacier you know and
00:36:39
they go R you got to keep your head still you know you can't move um well there's about five people
00:36:44
behind a wall of glass you're in a booth by yourself or a little studio and you
00:36:48
just look up to if you can see them kind of laughing you can't hear them if they
00:36:52
don't press a button and you're kind of just in a vacuum thinking it's this
00:36:56
funny I would assume you could you could improvise a little right because I could
00:37:02
they really didn't oh really they didn't really encourage improvising not too
00:37:07
much they'd let you do it but you knew later on they had a you know they knew
00:37:10
what the story was go oh now I'm going to do minutes I kept trying to sneak in
00:37:15
George Bush Senor and I GNA do it they go that's not even the show but I go but
00:37:19
it's funny but anyway that's a whole another story yeah they go Ray you're
00:37:23
sounding like more of a coyote than a mammoth and you're like no no that was
00:37:27
my fault I went into something else and when I did Emperor's New Groove we did a
00:37:30
year and a half stop red the script when I was going in like Dana said I was just
00:37:35
getting Pages it turned into just you walk in and they're like this is a scene
00:37:40
you're on a log and they give you as much as you can you go okay and you do it and the magic of how good they are I
00:37:46
have to say Hotel Transylvania I would laugh they were so cute and funny and what they do with the animation and
00:37:52
emperor's new group they just they make it so much better than it even seems
00:37:56
when you're doing it yeah you go this I don't really get what's going on it's a
00:38:00
little jumbled in my head of like where were we and what are we and then you see
00:38:03
it you go oh they know exactly what they're doing yeah yeah I mean that would be it every time they'd say okay
00:38:09
ray you're running away from this guy and he's and I go okay all right I go
00:38:14
well Ray you're you're farther away than that so you know we need you're like am I scared or am I
00:38:21
happy they're like it doesn't matter just run but isn't it great when your
00:38:24
animated character gets an incredible laugh like a lands of perfect pratfall and you're like yeah thanks you're
00:38:30
taking high fives in the theater well that's what happened was like I would get credit for an emotional part there
00:38:37
was an emot especially in Ice Age one I think there was a part where it was a little bit of tearjerker and it was the
00:38:45
music and the way they animated my fa I wasn't even saying anything and I would
00:38:50
get credit as an actor for for getting this emotion from these people I'm like
00:38:54
all right you know yeah I'll take it I remember when it when it played in um
00:39:00
another country like the first time it played in Mexico so they use a different actor a
00:39:07
different actor does oh right does the Spanish version so it's not my me it's
00:39:12
not my face it's animation it's not my voice and I remember my agent congratulating me on how well it's doing
00:39:21
in Mexico I'm like all right I don't know if I get that but okay you know I
00:39:26
have nothing to do with it but they're like copying you there's a German David Spade that does my stuff oh
00:39:33
really so heyes or what I'm trying Hey bu in German get all my nuances go in his his performance all
00:39:47
same performance sorry fake German are we going to get letters no I don't know I
00:39:55
know I took German in college CU my girlfriend the girl I was dating at the time spoke German I thought oh she'll
00:40:04
help me and then we broke up and I was stuck in a German class yeah how do you say yes I yes I have Perfection yes I
00:40:12
have protection that's not how it works I remember wait and what does that mean
00:40:23
that's one yeah that's counting one to 10 in German oh that's it I thought it was
00:40:29
some sort of pickup line no and then dick is I love you and love dick Jesus that's a little on the
00:40:39
edge is a good day what what about house off gobbin is homework hastu Brer have you Brothers nine but ab's wife Wester
00:40:54
Abracadabra Hitler used to be a magician in the 19 he was aain you don't know when the rabbit
00:41:03
comes sorry [Music] sorry could we just for a second just CU you may have some Impressions we uh of
00:41:15
Lauren Michaels just going then we're going to move on to because I think a big part of your legacy is this gigantic
00:41:21
career you've had after uh your half hour sitcom but um do you have any like
00:41:27
were you just intimidated or how how did you just process being in the 17th floor
00:41:34
with all the writers you go in Lauren's office and he's talking to you people
00:41:37
have talked to that moment I don't know if you have any thing well I didn't I
00:41:41
didn't know how it worked you know I'm I was you know very of course nervous you know um and we yeah the
00:41:51
first day you go in the office right and again this is 20 you know I haven't been
00:41:57
on 23 years but um all the writers come in and sit all over the office all over the floor right
00:42:05
yeah it's just packed with people and they all pitch what they're thinking of
00:42:09
you sit in the only good chair right next to Lauren and I didn't know until a
00:42:14
couple guys told me later like sometimes they don't have anything so they just make up a pitch right fake
00:42:22
fake pitches yeah got you're a caveman afraid of Cav but you hear everything you hear all
00:42:29
these I don't know 30 40 pictures of different scenes and it's intimidating
00:42:35
because you're like you know one of them is you're a southern farmer and and I'm
00:42:39
like I can't do a southern farmer I don't know you know um play a carrot stick okay yeah I just
00:42:48
I I I throw a I throw a bluff in Ray I always go uh oh Michael Keaton can you do Russian accent and he goes yeah and I
00:42:56
go for no reason well well one of the WR one of the pitches was um you're my
00:43:04
grandfather and you're this and my knee-jerk reaction was this is how stupid I was I was like
00:43:12
wow he thinks I look old enough to be his grandfather you know not really this is freaking sketch comedy they're gonna
00:43:18
make you look like however Everybody Plays everybody that's funny yeah um but
00:43:24
Lauren uh afterwards we discuss some of the stuff we heard I guess he was I mean
00:43:32
he was uh you know they they treat the host really well right because yes yes because they they he he defers to you I
00:43:40
mean that's that's what that's what it felt like you know when we had when we
00:43:45
whittel down some of the sketches he was really deferring to what I thought would
00:43:51
work and then of course he would put in his thing you know and and and you you are part of the process there you know I
00:43:59
guess as much as you want to be right yeah it's some because you take his advice because he knows the show but he
00:44:05
also lets the host go if you're not comfortable or if you don't like and he
00:44:09
would do it like this if everyone's talking talking talking silence uh Raymond just that yeah what do you are
00:44:20
you sort of circling the wagons on what you might want to do like he'd go uh
00:44:25
raise my grandma paw what did you think of that one and you're like I don't know
00:44:31
and he goes is it because you have to wear gray hair in it yeah no I just didn't like the whole
00:44:38
feel you want to do Mr short shorts uh you don't have to do Mr short shorts short shorts I think it's a good visual
00:44:45
piece uh it doesn't matter but if you don't want to do Mr short shorts you
00:44:49
don't have to and there's a song as well and you'll dance around in little short
00:44:52
shorts yeah yeah well don't forget we brought in we brought in we brought we
00:44:57
brought in like three sketches and and two of them got on you know that's a miracle cuz they don't like when you
00:45:03
bring your Goomba writers in there they go oh here we go that's that's smart
00:45:08
yeah they get mad all the writers go hey guess what next week Ray's bringing
00:45:13
writers and everyone goes boo but I but but they were all you know it was Higgins right it was Steve Higgins Steve
00:45:20
hiin producer great guy yeah and he was the I guess he was the head writer then yeah I think so and we you know we we
00:45:28
got in there and we worked on these sketches that we brought and he he he helped polish it up you know and um yeah
00:45:36
I mean I can imagine you know these guys yeah they this is what they're living is
00:45:41
to write sketches for us and I didn't even think of that and here we are coming in with took food out of their
00:45:46
mouth took it off their plate and then on the second time I did it we came in again and they didn't they
00:45:54
didn't Crush as much those sketch were they came up a little short the ones we
00:45:59
brought by the way Ray I don't think I remember when host would bring writers I
00:46:04
think Jam Fox maybe Martin Lawrence when they would bring writers yeah it was very hard to make the transition because
00:46:12
they weren't quite exactly right you know like the sketches were funny in a way but you know how it is Dana like for
00:46:18
what the stamp of everyone knows and read through sort of how everything works maybe there's too many sets in
00:46:24
them or there's something weird about them the point is they don't always get
00:46:28
all the way to the end even though I was kidding everyone's well-meaning if it's
00:46:32
funny it's funny put it on but I think you getting two on is you say two the
00:46:37
first one that's a lot yeah it was and it was the first one and the second one
00:46:41
it was it oh they kill yeah SP Center and bonini were back to back sound great but listen I wasn't trying to we weren't
00:46:50
trying to step on anybody's toes I just I you're fine insecure I was just saying
00:46:55
guys come with me we had we had Phil Rosenthal and and and two guys you know yeah the mafia you're the mob no no
00:47:02
no so so Ray because you're you don't wear your stardom on your sleeve like
00:47:08
I'm just interested in um like if you go drop into a club I maybe you're not
00:47:13
doing much right now but when you're getting ready for your special and the MC is like okay fasten your comedy seat
00:47:18
bels because the next gentleman yeah they know you're just you got a little piece
00:47:25
of paper you're trying to have you had that experience of the expectation of R
00:47:32
Romano yeah I I I I first whenever I'm in the city I I I go on I go to the seller whenever I'm in New York I go on
00:47:41
and um you know I was just in Atlanta I was working in Atlanta so I I I dropped in on the punch line the Atlanta punch
00:47:49
line uh I don't know if you guys did that I I did it like 30 years ago I I when I was just doing the road I did a
00:47:56
spot at the a week at the punch line um we have a special guest but yeah they they pile it on I I I've been I've
00:48:06
been not a fan of that since forever you know even before I was the guy they were
00:48:13
saying you know before they would they would Goose it up like crazy you know um and I'm like yeah just lower you know
00:48:23
let's come in with lower expectations and yeah um I've done standup with Ray he
00:48:29
always crushes it's it's not even a joke he always it always works I you know
00:48:35
obviously angered by it but does a great job yeah he does a great job I did five
00:48:40
years in Vegas with him off and on but Dana filled in for you one week that's
00:48:44
right Dana David I open for for Ray in no no we we co-headline we co-headline but uh the show starts at
00:48:53
10: and so and then you do your set and then uh whoever goes you on around 10:20
00:49:00
and then you wait and then you do a little shtick afterwards you know I usually get up at 6 you know so it was a
00:49:05
long day but for David David David wasn't a fan of that either yeah I stuck it out and then at the because we were
00:49:12
like I think for a while the trick in Vegas is they have Boys to Men or someone do a full show before us you
00:49:19
want to take that they do a full show Lauren Michaels he has a live and then it's they let the audience out then it's
00:49:25
cheaper just to go we have the room people in Vegas it's 10:00 Ray and Spade
00:49:30
they're just to stand up just have a stool and a glass of water so they just
00:49:34
said let's see who can come in so we do a big show it was really fun but I always thought can they
00:49:40
flip-flop us I think the shows before us I think was shim liim after us they're
00:49:45
just very family oriented and ours are usually more adult well you know what's
00:49:50
funny is the room the room we play The Mirage is is was is really a great room great we've been doing those shows at 10
00:49:58
o'cl for whatever like you said five years I've been doing it longer than
00:50:01
that I was with Kevin James before you came yeah and and those shows are just killer shows and then there was one
00:50:10
wasn't there one weekend where we had an 8 o'clock show it was even better it was
00:50:15
even yeah it's such a great fresh crowd Because by the time we get off it's
00:50:19
almost midnight and they're like what the [ __ ] and in Vegas you know they've
00:50:25
been they've been going hard in Vegas so it getss they get tired you know but but
00:50:31
but listen there was no complain but what we would do at the end was we would come out and do a Q&A and I know it was
00:50:37
fun I like that I always like that stuff right and then we needed to close the show so we would close with a just a
00:50:44
joke joke right that's right that's right so I remember when David started
00:50:49
working I had to we we came up with a joke for you to S to say right yes of course I didn't have one I go oh do a
00:50:56
joke and you go well just well here's one you gave me a good joke say you do
00:51:01
one then I'll do one yeah and you did and they're kind of dirty dirty jokes
00:51:04
but you know whatever and I remember they and every time you know we do it we do the gig every what three or four
00:51:09
months or whatever two months and you come back and you'd kind of half forget
00:51:13
the joke but the joke was bomb prooof bulletproof for sure some one of you has to say it CU if I was listening to this
00:51:22
podcast I want to go what was the joke it's a little R-rated I remember time I
00:51:26
get it wrong and I would look at Ray baffled because the most infuriating thing was he goes all right let's just
00:51:32
end with a joke you got one I go yeah I heard one from my roulette dealer and I would say one and then he would say one
00:51:37
okay and his luckily was so good because it he give me he gives me one that works
00:51:42
every time and then I would just look at him and he'd stare at me and go you
00:51:45
[ __ ] CU just mangling it and no matter how you tell it it would get a laugh and I
00:51:51
couldn't believe it because I'd be a little buzzed and I'd go blah blah and I
00:51:55
could see while I'm finding it while I tell it I it's this okay this by way
00:52:00
it's not that it's not that good we've overhyped it it's not that good by the
00:52:04
way it's five sentences it's past midnight on the strip in Vegas Here Comes David with his joke oh yeah Ray I
00:52:10
got one okay it's it's a couple's uh see what's good is now you you can't remember it now which is
00:52:18
exactly how you would do it there exactly perfect re reenactment of you on stage go and then I would back out yeah
00:52:26
I back out 3 two one what's your joke it's a couple but they are 90 years old
00:52:32
so it's their 60th anniversary I'm just making up numbers 60th anniversary birthday and so the guy
00:52:42
as a present the woman says I'm going to go wait in bed I'm going to go uh get my
00:52:49
present ready in the bathroom and I'll be right out so he lays in bed she goes
00:52:54
in there and strips totally naked except for a cape look at Ray's scared he's already
00:53:00
grinding his teeth going you're already a little off the crowd is restless land
00:53:04
it yeah I come she comes out uh steps leans at the foot of the bed and says super [ __ ] and he goes I'll take the
00:53:15
soup he got he got through it right was that out of the way goes you you always run over super
00:53:23
[ __ ] which is supposed to be a laugh but I rush to get to I'll take the soup
00:53:27
and that works enough yes but there's two there he says super [ __ ] and that
00:53:32
gets a laugh but he doesn't he never waits for the laugh he steps on the laugh and goes I'll take the soup and
00:53:38
and it kills anyway yeah so the proper way cuz would be super [ __ ] and get all
00:53:45
that laugh and then hit it get the D the guy says and the guy says I'll take the
00:53:49
soup yeah you're almost like wait and wait and then you go I'll take the suit
00:53:52
okay cuz there's going to be people listening are going to tell this joke at
00:53:55
a cocktail party tomorrow thinking it over and then he finally goes no I'll take the soup and then Ray Tails a great
00:54:00
one but I won't give that away but anyway uh let's talk about his movie that uh I got I observe one one thing
00:54:07
quickly get to his movie because that something that he's going to love we're
00:54:11
going to say to him in a minute um I kind of feel like when I watch your standup I go honestly I go is this guy
00:54:18
the best standup in the world I mean some of your stuff on YouTube and stuff I'm like it seems like it's almost
00:54:24
overshadowed by how much stuff you've done in acting but anyway go see Ray as a
00:54:29
stand up I I sincerely wanted to say that but something happened very strange last night here's a double whammy so we
00:54:36
get the screener of somewhere in Queens I just got off the plane we just came in
00:54:42
David and I just came in from DC we're really wiped out so I start watching it
00:54:46
I'm cooking dinner and I'm like oh know getting into it getting into it then I
00:54:52
bring the laptop upstairs because I'm so jet legged I go I got to go to sleep but
00:54:56
I got so engaged with the movie and I've never had this experience this much like
00:55:01
the movie is brilliant I loved it it complet captivated me and as a baby boomer parent it spoke to so many themes
00:55:10
because I don't want to give it away but it it's just the vicarious living of a
00:55:15
parent and what you'll do and I knew dad's in the stands yeah who had a superstar son and it was a it was sort
00:55:23
of a miracle but anyway honestly with total sincerity and David too had the same reaction we got back from that Mark
00:55:31
Twain thing for Sandler and we were like I even said to Dana in Washington I go isn't there something we're going to
00:55:37
watch from Ray but I never got anything and then we got home and they go oh yeah
00:55:41
yeah guys here's a movie and we're like oh [ __ ] so I watched on my laptop last
00:55:46
night first of all I thought it might be a comedy did you write and direct it or
00:55:50
did you direct it or I I I co-wrote it and I directed it oh it's so heartbreaking in it and funny it's
00:55:59
heartbreaking when you're talking to that girl in the car uh first of all the
00:56:03
the young the son's girlfriend she was great she's like a Jennifer Lawrence she
00:56:08
really jumped off uh every light up everyone's great I can't thank you guys
00:56:14
enough man I I when when we're off the air I'm going to ask you if you really mean it no we
00:56:21
we have we you know what we would say we would say um we didn't get a chance to
00:56:26
see it would be the punt oh I get oh the screener didn't play you know or we
00:56:31
might say it was it it it sure really held my interest it's just fun to be able to tell you maybe it's because we
00:56:37
were jetl but oh I think it has so many themes in it and your character is so heartbreaking I just being a father
00:56:45
myself and just the length a parent will go to for the love of a kid know it was
00:56:50
it came the story came out of nuggets of my real experience with my kid and my family and
00:57:00
and my son was a a basketball player and he start he was he's six fo five my son so he was one of the star
00:57:10
basketball players in high school and I knew he wasn't going to play in college
00:57:15
because he wasn't a guard and at 6 fo5 you're a guard you know um and so when
00:57:20
it ended I was really feeling sad that I'm going to miss sharing this with my son but if I'm
00:57:31
being truthful I like the I live vicariously through him I was I like the attention I was getting too which how
00:57:39
how pathetic how but if you think about how pathetic that is I I don't have enough you know I
00:57:45
have I'm in movies I'm on TV and but that whole world is so different and it's so interesting and you're not
00:57:52
an athlete I mean you might be athletic but you're not to this level of these
00:57:56
guys which I wouldn't be and you sort of admire people that can do stuff you
00:58:00
can't do and it's your own kid and so you take responsibility you're like
00:58:04
that's my guy out there you can't help your ego human ego gets gets intertwined
00:58:09
and and the other parents want that have have the bench sitter kid or the kid that barely plays and they would sort of
00:58:16
love to have that and they're trying to get it's a whole social Dynamic with
00:58:21
parenting I mean it's an amazing ego structure of look at my kids I had one in junior it was CYO basketball so
00:58:30
there's the kid who's like 6'2 in eighth grade so I'm sitting next to his dad
00:58:34
he's getting all the rebounds and he goes look at my kid get all those rebounds I go well he is a lot taller
00:58:40
than everyone else he goes that has nothing to do with it he just like he just wants to get the ball nothing to do
00:58:46
with it my son my son's 411 are you kidding me yeah I know and and well that that
00:58:54
was the the the the The Germ of the idea for the story was was when I felt that emptiness I just
00:59:02
thought I I at least have other areas where uh you know my life will be full but what if it was this poor schlub guy
00:59:12
who had nothing else had nothing else but this you know who felt invisible in his real life and and his son brought
00:59:19
this out but it's a smart way to do it no the things that happened I don't see
00:59:22
coming uh your wife in it did not know that who that was uh took me forever because she does such a disappearing act
00:59:32
Lor Lor is so well obviously she's incredible you both were great together I don't want to give it away but there's
00:59:39
there is a scene where that you captured the tension of someone being busted and
00:59:44
the way that whole scene built and the way you landed it you just felt viscerally you know shame for the for
00:59:51
your character so it's like not easy to do it's not an easy to land in a movie
00:59:57
I'm glad you guys feel that way man that makes me feel good telling you I was
01:00:00
balling out of the blue was crying wanting it to be like because it's funny moments because you're funny guy but
01:00:07
when you weave in which is very tricky a real situation where you're not trying
01:00:11
to do like I'm GNA do a joke now it's just the way people talk you know and
01:00:15
then someone's being kind of funny just because that's the way you talk when the
01:00:18
girl comes over and someone goes she's so nice and she goes I do not [ __ ] like her it just come you know that
01:00:24
those things come out of the blue that might not be a great example but you just do funny things well you're talking
01:00:29
about the Italian my wife who's what I wanted to do was take this story which will be Universal I'm I'm
01:00:37
glad you identified relate to it yes but but put it in this specific Universe which I lived in I I you know I grew up
01:00:46
Italian in Queens but my wife I married into that world that we see in the movie
01:00:51
you know the the the traditional people the right off the boat people you know everything with all with all the all the
01:00:58
traditions and the parties and the you know all the the food and and everything and I said let's just do the story and
01:01:06
this make it specific but it's like it's kind of like the formula that worked for
01:01:10
everybody's Raymond we made it specific but it was identified when it comes to
01:01:15
family everybody kind of identifies with it no matter where you're from you know
01:01:19
yeah wasn't my I'm not Italian I'm not from Queens I was just relating to
01:01:23
different things even heartbreaking stuff with relationships and dating and there's a lot going on where you go oh
01:01:30
godamn that's funny and then they catch you off guard again and just one the one
01:01:34
character which the casting of your son was he was amazing too and just had such
01:01:39
you know you I can't tell you how hard it was to find a kid who can you know he
01:01:46
the kid's an introvert you know so he has to he has to emote without saying a
01:01:50
lot and so he has to be a pretty good actor and also a good basketball player it was so hard to find a guy of course
01:01:59
he was shooting threes and oh yeah he's a good player and and we we would get a
01:02:04
list of guys we would look at all of them and we would narrow it down and then we would say put yourself on tape
01:02:08
playing basketball for five minutes because they all said they could play and within 10 seconds you could see this
01:02:15
this guy never yeah um but and this kid was driving Postmates when we gave him the
01:02:22
role he was just you know he just had college video that films that he did he's a and he's a great kid too you know
01:02:29
so I'm I'm happy for him you you you touched on so many uh just experiential
01:02:35
things that were just like like I knew I knew a guy I don't want to give names
01:02:39
away but like his first love he's 20 and he basically told me that he'd said to her all I'll love you no matter
01:02:46
what forever or something to that effect and then she was having sex with his best friend the next day or something it
01:02:53
was like he said he he he said I love you forever yeah too early too early and it's like there's a lot of
01:03:02
stuff in your movie that but she was like oh I'm covered even though I'm
01:03:06
going to have sex with your friend you're still loving me right that was the deal and he's like well I'll love
01:03:11
you forever no matter what you know on the second date or something it's like
01:03:16
you know oh believe me I used to pour my heart out these girls uh but I I can see
01:03:21
writing wise because I've tried to write movies the fact that you're rap up every
01:03:26
story is very hard to do I mean everything sort of just falls into place all the way to the very end yeah yeah
01:03:32
and sometimes we thought we don't need to wrap up everything you know but no but it's true but but but they're
01:03:40
all very nice I liked them all I love I love Sebastian in the movie too he's
01:03:45
just a great a great tough [Music] brother can I ask you a question uh just uh just popped my head when did you know
01:03:58
your wife was the one so to speak was that a long courtship or did you were thinking marriage pretty
01:04:04
quickly we we worked in a bank together my wife and I yeah and and I'm going to
01:04:11
be honest she was the third woman I asked out in the bank the first the first two security guards first W the
01:04:21
first the first two turned me down the first two turned me down and um did she know uh I think she knew you know yeah
01:04:33
that I was interested in this other girl first um and then it was when I quit the
01:04:40
bank uh that we started dating you know but but you know I had nothing man I was
01:04:46
living at home she I give her credit because uh I wasn't a catch really you know um I was driving my bike to work
01:04:54
and all and um she took a shot and now she's um she's house shopping every
01:05:02
three months what is interesting pre money pre Fame living at home working in a bank and like yeah so the there's
01:05:10
something there's some nice stuff about that you know um yeah but but but but it
01:05:16
wasn't love at first sight you know I'm not going to say that but but hi but
01:05:22
it it was like a lucky it was just kind of like getting fired from news radio you know it was it was uh it worked out
01:05:32
yeah I mean it was it was my life would be very different if it didn't happen
01:05:36
you know yeah I sort of like that little Jennifer Esposito uh she did nice job yes I did a movie with her once Master
01:05:43
disguise I thought she was also oh yeah she was really good with that little bit
01:05:46
she did yep and she really I didn't know where what was going on with that but I
01:05:50
just like yeah the tough dad everyone everyone knows the tough dad and that's
01:05:54
just the way they are and and and you being a full-grown adult with a tough dad is hard to sit there
01:05:59
and eat it all the time yeah you have you guys directed anything ever no no I haven't man it scared the hell out of me
01:06:07
I can't tell you how frightening it was leading up to it uh I wasn't gonna I I
01:06:12
wasn't going to direct it but my agent told me you know it's too personal get
01:06:16
in there and do it and I was like another 10 grand in it for you another Union it's another Union you're in
01:06:23
another Union all of a sudden but uh he you know I I so that's your first directing job okay yeah yeah I
01:06:32
hadn't directed any Raymond I hadn't directed anything um and you know I've
01:06:37
been in the edit room for the last 25 years I've been I've been writing and kind of directing you
01:06:45
know with Raymond you're directing even though you're not directing you know
01:06:48
yeah um but uh I know nothing about the technical side of it you know I I didn't
01:06:54
know one lens from another I knew what I wanted to see what why what I wanted it
01:06:58
to look like so he just you know he just convinced me get a surround yourself with the the great cinematographer who
01:07:05
can collaborate with you and and uh you know just pay attention to what you want
01:07:11
on the screen and I mean it was so nerve-wracking though before it started once it started it was all good you know
01:07:18
but I do think the writer and it's so personal it's great that you were completely in charge you would have been
01:07:22
de facto in charge even if you not taken the credit no I'm glad he made me I'm
01:07:27
glad he made me do it you know because now having done it I would do it again if it's some the weird thing is I got
01:07:34
offers to direct now and the movie hasn't even come out and people heard I directed so I got a couple little offers
01:07:41
to direct these other things and but if it I had no desire if it wasn't something I wrote you know or something
01:07:48
you really uh heart yeah something I was super passionate about maybe but but I think the next I would it again if I
01:07:56
write something again I I would try it again you know and you have to demand the DP from corki Romano that you
01:08:03
got give me the best of the best did is is that true was he on Cor Romano oh no I just that's a funny name it was a
01:08:11
chrisan comedy I know but it's a funny word package Cory Romano it's a great a
01:08:17
great name of a human being can I tell you of my SNL experience and I loved every second of it and Sports Center is
01:08:23
the one that stands out right but if I have to be honest and pick my favorite sketch it was the one Chris
01:08:30
Katan when he was the lounge uh you guys may not seen singer he was the lounge guy yeah and and he brought up me I was
01:08:39
like a Shey green has been comic and and uh it just had it was so much fun yeah that was my favorite sketch I think of
01:08:48
the two times I think it yeah well he does great on the show it's great that
01:08:53
was fun I mean yeah I like seeing you out there and there's one called the big
01:08:57
baby well you know I think people will look you up that's fun when we have some
01:09:00
of the podcast people go and look up sketch look up Ray R big baby was will frell yeah was will frell yeah yeah did
01:09:06
you did you overlap with Katan with Chris Katan I did a little with Katan one year with frell and the cheerleaders
01:09:13
and that and then I was on my way out but uh I could tell I was like it's time
01:09:18
to go and there's good people here it's in good hands how many years spech how
01:09:23
many years you do I did six D is seven and I've hosted three David's hosted a
01:09:30
couple times twice yeah each one's different when was the last time you hosted Dana I think it was like 2011 or
01:09:39
something I found it the last time just so it's it's really exhausting when
01:09:43
you're a cast member and there's two sketches you can really focus uh I too
01:09:48
much of a control freak but there's also a Whimsy to how the show unfolds you
01:09:54
know unless you try to write ahead of time which isn't you know I think I think for me it's like then I've been
01:09:59
there doing guest Spots I'm on Fallon and Lauren will just walk down on a Thursday uh you'll you'll do Church chat
01:10:06
uh this week you know I got a flight out tomorrow you'll be doing Church chat
01:10:10
it's that thing of like Ted Cruz and all that so I've gone back and done th guest
01:10:15
spots which are really fun and I love doing Wayne's World on the 40th I love playing that character at 60
01:10:21
did you go to the 40th Ray no I didn't I went to the 25th with Peter Bo I remember with Peter Bo when's the next
01:10:30
one man what what are they coming up three years will be the 50th so do you want two for
01:10:39
yeah plus one uh let's see go ahead Dana do your kids do standup still are they still
01:10:48
doing it the now we we have a production company and we're making content we just
01:10:52
we finished the scripted you know standup has to well it's just rough out there now uh it was heartbreaking to see
01:11:00
the it's either opening for me where the audience is so jacked up or it's an open
01:11:04
mic where because I suffered so much in bad open mics and it wasn't my fault you
01:11:10
know they're having dinner or you know a bar you know but now doing content uh is
01:11:17
more specific more connected like we're going to do this thing it's not ethereal
01:11:22
you know it and basically standup in the end of the day is traveling if it's
01:11:27
really your job it's about traveling I I didn't watch you know Jackie Gleason or
01:11:33
Carol Bernett in the 60s and go I go I want to do that but I didn't think that
01:11:37
would mean uh we're gonna we're going to push back from the gate in a few minutes
01:11:41
but right now we have some maintenance guys coming on board you know so the travel part of is the part I don't like
01:11:46
yeah yeah my son tried it my one son my one one of my twin boys did a a little road he went to Albuquerque he went
01:11:56
to and did these one nighters he did like five of them and that was his only taste of it and he got he gets a he got
01:12:05
depressed that you know he was at a bar where they weren't even facing him you
01:12:09
know and yeah and and he was getting upset that he was what if I'm not funny
01:12:14
I'm like you can't tell you're not if you're funny or not from that you know
01:12:18
it's by the way you got to do that that's the sad part about standup in the
01:12:23
beginning years you gotta muscle through all that stuff yeah yeah and I I I went
01:12:28
to a lot of open mics and most open micers the audience even if the audience is pretty good the reason they're not
01:12:34
doing well is the audience doesn't get what they're talking about like the they
01:12:37
don't set it up properly like Clarity without Clarity which you learn over time uh but anyway they they had nights
01:12:44
where they would crush you know but it still has to be a a specific passion and the stuff we're doing now they're
01:12:50
enjoying more oh good that's good also standup sometimes leads to doing content
01:12:55
they're sort of just going let's get to the part where we make stuff it teaches
01:12:58
you a lot to trust trust your blink and that in the end of the day the sensibility if it's similar in a room
01:13:05
it's so much more pleasant like with at SNL there was a very narrow sensibility
01:13:10
and so when something worked everyone all knew it sitting around the writer's
01:13:13
room oh that'll work that'll kill but right you know anyway it's uh it's been
01:13:18
a good life David DAV good luck with the movie Ray ah thank you man April 21 April 21 somewhere in Queens and it's in
01:13:29
theaters or April 21 it goes into theaters somewhere Queens I highly recommend it I I really do I think it
01:13:36
touches a lot of stuff it it lands beautifully movies just don't work that I mean the big sick was another one of
01:13:42
those kind of indie films that was sort of or small yeah that this is this is like this this is in that league if not
01:13:49
better or well it touched me more because it was so specific to my yeah too thank you I'll see you will I see
01:13:56
you in Vegas David where you going I'll be over at the Venetian with Nikki Glazer but I'll yell over because son of
01:14:02
a [ __ ] I know but it's 8:30 I'm playing the I'm headlining the Mirage I guess
01:14:07
you're out of town on oh God I hope it's right you're going to do it July 7th or
01:14:13
8th or 14th or 15th yeah July well I'm there you know who took your place David
01:14:18
right is Brian rean oh great yeah that guy is a monster for him yeah he's pretty good have time to be opening jars
01:14:27
and stuff I don't can't do I love that guy that's it walk him through the joke
01:14:33
give them super super [ __ ] yeah we we loved it Ray and we hope to see you around campus and Here There and
01:14:39
Everywhere appreciate it thanks fix it fix it and post fix it fix it up it's
01:14:44
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