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my agent forbade me from doing.
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>> Oh, really?
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>> This is where the question for you cuz
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like you don't want to do that. It's
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crazy over there. You're going to enter
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a situation that is crazy political and
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you're going to be like a lamb at the
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slaughter in there. I wanted to act not
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just cuz I enjoyed the voices like we
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were talking about earlier, but it was a
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deeper darker like I really wasn't too
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comfortable being myself. I preferred
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being other people. And so to get up and
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act, like Royy's whole thing was if you
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want to really act well on stage or film
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or TV, you have to be willing to expose
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yourself to like really be yourself in
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front of people,
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>> which I absolutely could not do. I
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couldn't do it. I showed my 16-year-old
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son the godfather for the first time. So
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I've been working on my veto profession.
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Oh
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>> god.
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>> It's good for disciplining a boy. His
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name's Howor.
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Come over here.
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Hankazeria. Hankazeria is in most things
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you see.
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>> He's in a lot of movies, lot of TV
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shows, and of course,
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>> he's the he's the full course, the full
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monty of 800 episodes of The Simpsons.
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He's in each and every one since 198.
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>> Very good. He did a show Brock Meyer
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that was very wellreceived. Um
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>> he's been in and out. I've seen him over
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the years. What a cool dude. And what a
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great time we had just blowing it up
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with him.
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>> Yeah, he's got a great ear and he's he
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just throws his voices out and it's uh
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from some of his characters. It's really
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fun fun to watch.
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>> Oh yeah, I did a lot of impressions.
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>> Yeah, impression impressions, too. We
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got We'll get into the old timey
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impressions.
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>> Oh yeah, that's right.
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>> I'll just say I'll say two words for you
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people who were born in the 50s. Boris
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Carlo.
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>> Oh, that's right. That's right.
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All right. Well, have a good time with
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them. You'll have some laughs. Hank
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Aeria.
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>> Hello.
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>> I got pitched a script once where
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>> it was
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I think it was a Japanese woman who was
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a uh thought that maybe I was her dad in
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the script.
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>> I like that.
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>> In the script.
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>> The script. I I She was seeking me and
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thought maybe I was her dad. I don't
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know.
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I have a story. We should roll because I
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have a story along.
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>> We're officially We're
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>> once I pop on. It's
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>> It's on.
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>> We were riveting. We had some pretty
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cool stuff going.
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>> I know. I'm like I don't I'm feel bad
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they're going to waste it,
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>> but I think we're still locked and
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loaded. Hank,
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>> hello, gentlemen. Um,
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>> thanks for coming on our show. We're
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really happy to see you. I I feel like
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you're a brother from another mother.
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Why are you apologizing?
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Did I apologize? I thought you said they
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interrupted you.
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>> Oh, no. It's a
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>> my brother from another mother because
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when I I hear you and I see you do these
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things and you inhabit them and I just
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totally relate to how much fun it is
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>> and that certain voices make you really
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happy, you know, more than other voices.
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>> Yes, I that's a tremendous compliment
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coming from you and uh yeah, I know you
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I've you know enjoyed your your voices a
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lot over the years.
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Thank you.
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>> Absolutely. Yeah. Incredible.
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>> What about this voice?
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>> That's a good voice. Well, that that
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leads me to a story. Do you remember
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David? We used to run into each other a
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lot back in the day and um
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>> you used to say to me
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something.
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>> You used to say to me, um, hey,
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you go, hey, could I do voices on the
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Simpsons? Listen,
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>> that's good.
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>> That's good. That's good. You need that.
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I By the way, what a dumb thing to say
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to the guy. Everyone's like, "Can I have
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that?"
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>> I don't think you really were.
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>> I think I was kidding.
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>> I think you were just having a little
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fun.
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>> Even though The Simpsons is still on. I
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don't know if you know this. Still on.
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>> I knew that.
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>> Right.
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>> And still funny. That's the hardest
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part.
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>> Yeah. The The writers do an amazing job.
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They really do. I don't know where they
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they they reach for some strange
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storylines these days, but you can't
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blame them after like 800.
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>> They have to. I think when Conan left, I
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think he was secretly hoping it would
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all collapse.
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>> That was the craziest thing like that
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he, you know, left to to host a late
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night talk show. I mean, he had never
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even done standup.
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>> I know.
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>> Yes. Yes,
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>> it was a pretty out out of the blue.
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Even though we knew him, we knew he was
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funny, but for Lauren and like who's it
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going to be and Conan and to have it
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work?
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>> Yeah. It was who was the head of NBC
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that just decided was it Warren
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Littlefield? I was very
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>> Littlefield. It wasn't Tartar Sauce. He
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was gone. Brandon Tarter Sauce.
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>> Brandon Tarter Sauce. Yeah, that I know.
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They they had
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>> that that was his birth name. They
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covered it up. fun fact. But um yeah,
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Conan and I were writing Hans and Fron's
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The Girly Man Dilemma, a movie, and they
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were considering me to do that job and I
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was completely conflicted, you know, at
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that time. And and then when Conan got
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it because I you hung out with them
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enough, it kind of made sense. And then,
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you know what I mean?
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>> Yeah. Yeah, I mean he was he was the
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only writer at the Simpsons that would
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like sort of work the room
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>> with the with the voice act like you
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know you knew Conan was hilarious
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>> whereas the other guys it was sort of a
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Harvard hasty putting you know almost
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MIT vibe to to the way they approach
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things
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>> kind of slightly tortured. Yeah.
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>> Yeah. Sort of on the spectrumy and uh
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you know uh but Conan was just
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hilarious. But remember do you guys know
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Jake Hogan? Remember, do you guys know
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Jay Cody, writer?
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>> Was he Was he on SNL for a while or
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there were a couple that came from SNL?
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George
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>> George Meyer.
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>> George Meyer. Yeah. Which Robert Smiggle
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used to say because George was very hard
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on the show itself. And I I was there my
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first year. And so he would kind of go
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around kind of as a joke and go show
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dying.
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Do you know that?
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>> That um that became famous. We knew that
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at the Simpsons.
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>> Oh, it metriculated over there.
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>> Yeah. I think there were another couple
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of SNL writers that came to the Simpsons
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and they sort of said that
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>> they busted George on that.
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>> Yeah. And we would we picked it up as
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sort of a catchphrase. Show dying.
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>> Farewell show.
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>> Conan get up and act out like the voices
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or does he just pitch ideas?
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>> He wouldn't do he's not a voice guy
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really, but no, he would just nei
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neither. He would just kind of break
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into comedy, you know, uh, while we were
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recording. He just would just be
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hilarious.
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>> Um,
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>> now it's wait,
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>> he would violently convulse. I mean,
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Conan would be standing in there and
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he's just doing and he's likely convuls.
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>> Yeah. It'd be like the guy's like,
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"What?" You know, it's like a sudden
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convulsion.
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>> Oh, he would snap his head a little bit
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like
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Uh, was it from SNL to the
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Simpsons or the other way around?
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I think Conan is SNL to the Simpsons for
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Conan because then I think he went
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straight from the Simpsons to his late
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night show
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>> the show. Oh, okay.
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>> Conan would do things like
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maybe when he do this at SNL he would
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just kind of yell out nonsequittors um
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>> Sure.
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>> in the writer room and then they would
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actually then he'd like
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it was like a game to turn it into an
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actual bit like he he would kept he kept
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saying jump.
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People was like what what are you
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saying? And he just would say and then
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that became like the name of Patty and
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Selma's pet lizard or something, you
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know? He just would like free associate,
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turn them into bits.
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>> Yeah. He'd grab me and go, "What do you
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think you're doing on the side of the
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show, dude?" Like, you know, everything
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was like bitsy stuff, you know? But it
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was funny because also I was new and he
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knew he could push me around.
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>> Did he Did he Was he
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>> Well, it's always 225. He could push a
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lot of people.
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>> 6123.
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>> He's just under 7 feet. 302. And
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>> well that brings me actually to a
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question I want to ask you guys if I can
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interview you.
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>> We love questions.
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>> See I I really do admire you both very
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much and I love SNL. You know I think I
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was 11 in 1975 when SNL premiered.
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>> Yes.
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>> Um yeah
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>> and it premiered very close to when PBS
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first aired Monty Python as well. They
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were like right next to each other.
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>> Yep. I remember that whole era. those
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two. Yeah.
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>> Yes. And it which totally blew my I
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couldn't believe adults could be that
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silly and smart and funny like gave me
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hope for the world literally those two
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shows.
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>> And uh so you know SNL to me it still
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has this like mythic it's it's the apex
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of comedy to me and you know always
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wanted a I never auditioned. I don't
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know why I never got myself together to
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do it. I think partly it's because I
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didn't start writing until much too late
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into my life, you know, to like figure
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it out. Um, and then I was dying to host
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like, um, I was supposed to host. I had
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this NBC show a long time ago and then
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the show got cancelled like right away,
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>> so they canceled it. And I was like, um,
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I was I I do these charity poker things
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sometimes and I was playing in a game at
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the table was like Brian Cranston and
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John Ham and Amy Schumer and Don Cheetel
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and I can't remember who else. and
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they're all talking about they're all
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trading stories about when they hosted
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SNL. And after about 10 minutes, I went,
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"Yeah, I uh I think I'm the only one
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here that that's never hosted the show."
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And so then for the rest of the game,
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every time I lost a hand, it was maybe
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if you'd hosted that hand might have
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gone better for you.
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>> Um but but then there was a time when
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that was
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>> that was John Ham, right?
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>> That was Ham.
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>> Yeah, because that's his sense of humor,
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you know.
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>> Everybody everybody happily joined in on
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it. Um, but then there was a time when I
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was like in my mid30s. I was like, you
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know what? I want to like go back. I'm
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gonna audition. I'm just gonna get my
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[ __ ] together. I know I'm old,
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>> but I'm going to just get my [ __ ]
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together and audition. And my agent
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forbade me from doing it.
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>> Oh, really?
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>> This is where the question for you
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because like
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>> you don't want to do that. It's crazy
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over there. You're going to enter a
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situation that is crazy political and
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you're going to be like a lamb at the
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slaughter in there. And
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>> you know, was that around the Chris
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Elliot years? Janine Gar. I wonder when
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it would be because
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>> would it be 95?
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>> Would it be the rep of like
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>> I might have it was like 20201
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2002 in there.
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>> Okay. So Will Ferrell had arrived and
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was about to exit, I guess.
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>> Well, was it as hard as all that? You do
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hear stories about how it could be
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really rough.
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>> Yeah, I would just say it all depends. I
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mean, I think if uh your skill set seems
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perfectly adapted for it. So,
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uh it's kind of like it's still based on
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characters, reoccurring characters,
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voices, you know. So, I don't know. It
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would I it'd be very interesting to see
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you host it. I I put you on the cast
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now. I mean, you know, there is no
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>> that's what this is about for me. If you
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can make a couple of calls, I would
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highly appreciate it.
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>> Cast would be fun for you. Hosting would
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be fun also. But
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>> Lauren, what are you Lauren? What are
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you doing? Oh, I'm just looking at the
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list of
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um show folk that the ones that got
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away. Uh Hank Aeria never uh just really
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really like really wanted him, but his
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agent didn't want him down.
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>> [ __ ] blocked me.
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>> [ __ ] blocked me.
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>> No, I never got that far.
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>> Um, do you Yeah, that's so interesting
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because I thought that I couldn't find
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it because I was looking around, you
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know, Hank's area host SNL. I thought,
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you know, there's something had to have
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been there.
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>> Was there whispers? Was there a point
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where you go, this is the time I
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probably would have?
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>> It was that I had this NBC show.
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>> Okay.
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>> And I was all over it. I'm like, okay,
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I'm on NBC show, so this is a natural
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>> network. Mhm.
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>> So, and they did they had set it up and
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then it got cancelled. Like it was one
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of those we made seven, they aired two
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and goodbye was
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>> [ __ ] I did an animated show for NBC and
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they said Dana's buddy Brad Gay made a
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deal to put on NBC and I'm like this is
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about a deadbeat dad. It's not like a
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family show. It's a cartoon. It's weird.
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I said maybe it's more for HBO. And
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they're like he goes no I got a deal
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with NBC. We'll do it. So it like helped
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him in a weird way. Meanwhile, NBC was
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like, "This isn't really a family show."
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They called me ahead of time. It's
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airing in July. We're going to air two
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episodes back toback and cancel it. I
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was like, "That that
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>> what if it kills it?" They're like, "It
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won't." Anyway, so two and out. I was
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like,
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>> "Oh my god,
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>> I've had two of those. Two of those
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almost exactly."
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>> Everything I ever did failed. Everything
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I ever did failed except the except
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Wayne's World. Every pilot, every
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series, everything. I'm just I don't
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want to I I'm just sort of curious. Was
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there potentially any conflict of
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interest with this person that SAID,
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"OH, YOU DON'T WANT TO do SNL? Are you
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crazy?"
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>> No, I think he was being genuine.
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>> He felt I regret it. I think he felt
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like it would have been a step back in
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my career, you know, and I disagree. I
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should have had more balls instead.
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>> Well, Phil Phil Hartman, the late our
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awesome friend,
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>> you would have been like a Phil. he was
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38 and didn't even mean a thing because
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we're always a lot of times even today's
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cast they're like you know Marcelo's 28
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and he's playing somebody who's 60 you
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know what I mean it's usually you're
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aging up but Phil was just perfect you
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know
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>> used to be they'd go we need a dad type
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we need a younger but now every
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>> game show host dad
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uh straight man to the host also and
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also can do all these other things you
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ask him to do you know So
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>> yeah,
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>> I don't want you have any regrets though
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because you had you've had are having
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such an amazing career in my mind.
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>> It's too it's too late. I I have the
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regrets. I think I think if I wrote more
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at the I would have just done I would
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have said screw you. I'm just going to
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put together something and do it even
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just for fun, you know.
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>> Would you hate it if you auditioned and
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didn't get it?
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>> Well, I mean I'm used to Aren't we all
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used to that at this point? Yeah.
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Actually, you never think you're going
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to get
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>> No, if you never audition, you never
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get, you know, you never lose,
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>> right? You just do it and you walk away
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and and they call and you go, "What's
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this about?
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>> Didn't you have an audition today?" And
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I go, "Oh, I already wrote it off as
00:16:00
it's not happening." And they're like,
00:16:01
"No, it's happening." I'm like, "Oh,
00:16:03
wait. Let me look. What was it again?"
00:16:06
>> So, no, I'm the opposite. I'm like all
00:16:08
over it to a point where I have to calm
00:16:10
down. When I started, I was like I when
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I was in acting class, obviously I
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didn't finish all of them, but uh the uh
00:16:17
>> Was I in class with you for a while?
00:16:19
>> Was I was that Ivana?
00:16:21
>> Yes.
00:16:23
>> And Roy London.
00:16:24
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:25
>> I think that's where you said the
00:16:26
Simpsons thing.
00:16:27
>> Maybe that's because Roy London. I
00:16:31
actually
00:16:31
>> I didn't get Roy London, Hank. I got
00:16:34
passed down.
00:16:35
>> Roy London. JV Roy London because Brad
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uh was a Brad Pitt was with our
00:16:41
management and they said go to and
00:16:43
Shanley went to Roy London watched like
00:16:46
he was the best and I go this would be
00:16:48
great and they go great you're going to
00:16:49
go over here in this room and this is
00:16:51
the spillover room and it was Ivana
00:16:54
>> well in fairness everybody started that
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way David you had
00:16:58
>> start with Roy
00:16:59
>> you like yeah you had to do like the
00:17:00
farm system and then they would bring
00:17:02
you up
00:17:02
>> I I stayed in TripleA but actually Ivana
00:17:05
was good I liked She was great. Yeah.
00:17:07
>> Yeah. And she got me
00:17:09
>> to do better. Yeah. I agree.
00:17:10
>> So Roy London, how would you describe
00:17:13
his because what I met him a few times
00:17:15
and his philosophy of of acting was so
00:17:18
unique, I thought. And I don't know if
00:17:20
you how will you describe it? I'd have a
00:17:23
way to describe it, but I want to hear
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you. Well, well, I was in there for I
00:17:27
really needed him badly because I was in
00:17:30
there for like three years
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>> and
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>> I I I
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went because I was already on The
00:17:38
Simpsons and had done a few things.
00:17:40
>> Um, and Roy like sized me up right away
00:17:44
once I got out of Ivana
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>> and said, "Okay, you're not allowed to
00:17:47
do any voices or even be particularly
00:17:49
funny in here."
00:17:50
>> Oh.
00:17:51
>> You're just going to be yourself.
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>> And I was like, "Oh, that's terrible."
00:17:55
Yeah. What's that? It's terrible.
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>> Well, I didn't even real I re I realized
00:18:00
that I, you know, I'm I'm a mimic at at
00:18:03
heart. That's really the basis of
00:18:05
everything for me. And I wanted to act
00:18:09
not just because I enjoyed the voices
00:18:10
like we were talking about earlier, but
00:18:12
it was a deeper, darker like I really
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wasn't too comfortable being myself. I
00:18:16
preferred being other people. And so to
00:18:19
get up and act, like Royy's whole thing
00:18:20
was if you want to really act well on
00:18:23
stage or film or TV, you have to be
00:18:25
willing to expose yourself to like
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really be yourself in front of people,
00:18:29
>> which I absolutely could not do. I
00:18:31
couldn't do it.
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>> And neither could Peter Sers.
00:18:35
>> Yes, it's true. Imposter syndrome. Yes,
00:18:38
there's certain Do you I mean, you know,
00:18:40
Dana, are you like that at all? Like, do
00:18:43
you
00:18:44
>> Yeah, I was cast in things. I had a teen
00:18:47
face for about three weeks. So, I was
00:18:49
cast in things uh as the straight man
00:18:53
playing myself and I was just absolutely
00:18:56
awful. But the lines were like when I
00:18:58
did a sitcom with Mickey Rooney and
00:19:00
Nathan Lane in New York, I was the
00:19:03
straight man. And the first day at the
00:19:05
readrough, Mickey pointed at me and
00:19:06
said, "You're the straight man." You
00:19:08
know, I'd been doing standup and
00:19:10
everything. You hear me? Bang.
00:19:13
>> The straight.
00:19:14
>> Give him no jokes. So I would just my
00:19:17
question I would ask questions. I was
00:19:19
just the guy going, "What are you doing?
00:19:21
When's he coming home?" This and that. I
00:19:23
And I sucked. I was terrible. But yeah,
00:19:26
it's fun to do a character. I think a
00:19:28
lot of people like Roblo said he would
00:19:30
love to be in prosthetics and playing a
00:19:34
character more than anything else.
00:19:36
>> He's more a version of himself. Yeah.
00:19:37
It's the opposite. I mean, you could
00:19:40
you're so versatile that you could do,
00:19:42
but you've done a lot of things where
00:19:44
you're acting as a as yourself, using
00:19:47
yourself.
00:19:48
>> Thanks to Roy, I mean, I I did have a
00:19:51
breakthrough in there one day. Um,
00:19:54
>> what happened?
00:19:56
>> What happened? What was the
00:19:57
breakthrough? you know, he finally like
00:20:00
I was there for like three years and he
00:20:02
started everybody in that class would
00:20:04
have their turn maybe two three times a
00:20:06
year where you were sort of the focus
00:20:08
>> you know uh it wouldn't be like you'd
00:20:10
spend they spend he'd spend the whole
00:20:12
three by the way I was in class when
00:20:13
Brad Pitt had his breakthrough that was
00:20:15
an unbelievable thing to see
00:20:16
>> oh it was like one day one class
00:20:19
>> he didn't come much but yeah he was like
00:20:21
sort of having a little trouble and then
00:20:24
Roy just kind of said this or that and
00:20:26
all of a sudden you saw Brad Pitt that
00:20:27
appear before your eyes. Same I saw
00:20:30
Sharon Stone have a similar breakthrough
00:20:31
in that class.
00:20:32
>> Wow.
00:20:33
>> Uh Sharon Stone was almost the point
00:20:35
where she was in there for months and
00:20:37
you you know you that person in class
00:20:40
you want to kind of pull him aside and
00:20:41
say maybe you shouldn't do this because
00:20:44
I don't know that you're getting the
00:20:45
hang of this.
00:20:46
>> It's not getting better. Yeah.
00:20:48
>> She was like in my opinion she was kind
00:20:50
of one of those people. And then one day
00:20:53
she just like had this breakthrough and
00:20:55
she was unbelievable
00:20:58
um in this scene and like ever after she
00:21:00
was incredible. But Roy, so I'm up there
00:21:02
in front of Roy and I'm doing we're
00:21:05
doing a scene from a play a Lanford
00:21:07
Wilson play called Burn This
00:21:09
>> Malovich actually the aforementioned
00:21:12
made made famous on Broadway
00:21:13
>> and um doing the scene and he goes there
00:21:17
right there. I do a line he go what
00:21:18
happened? you're going along fine and
00:21:20
then it's like you jump out of your body
00:21:22
like what happens to you? I was like to
00:21:25
be honest I hear myself give like a tiny
00:21:28
line reading. I think in my mind I was
00:21:30
trying to do like my version of how I
00:21:32
imagined Malovich would do the scene
00:21:34
because that's my stickick, you know?
00:21:36
Not like I was imitating him, but
00:21:38
>> it's still not exactly genuine, right?
00:21:40
>> That's how Nicholas Cage works, you
00:21:42
know.
00:21:42
>> Is that right? So I didn't like that. He
00:21:45
just says in this next scene, I'm going
00:21:46
to do Daniel D Lewis. I go, really? And
00:21:50
so it's kind of a wide shot with a
00:21:52
woman. He comes in, he drops to his
00:21:53
knees. He's going to do Daniel D. Lewis
00:21:55
from the name of the father. And he
00:21:57
doesn't tell the director or anybody. He
00:22:00
just comes in, drop to HIS KNEES. WHY?
00:22:02
WHY? WHY? TOTAL COMMITMENT, you know.
00:22:05
Yeah. So that's how he does it. He just
00:22:07
thinks acting should be should be an art
00:22:09
form rather than just realism, you know.
00:22:12
>> Well, I'm kind of with him on that. like
00:22:13
I'll you can do that to play around or
00:22:16
try a thing or a weird take or
00:22:19
>> you know sometimes just having another
00:22:21
actor in mind,
00:22:23
>> you know, Woody Allen used to say that
00:22:25
he thought he was doing such a direct
00:22:27
Bob Hope impression that people going to
00:22:29
bust him on it.
00:22:30
>> Yeah.
00:22:30
>> You know, but Bob Hope in his mind
00:22:33
through a Woody Allen filter is quite a
00:22:34
unique thing. I didn't even I I get the
00:22:37
connection. But I know that Woody was it
00:22:40
was different. But it was this this kind
00:22:42
of
00:22:43
>> pause, you know, right before because I
00:22:46
Why aren't we quietly humping, you know,
00:22:49
>> it's it's and Bob Hope is like, "Yes, I
00:22:52
got to go." He's sort of scared.
00:22:53
>> The nervous coward character.
00:22:56
>> Yeah. And and halting speech before the
00:22:58
fear comes out. It's just the fact that
00:23:00
I'm terrified might get in the way, you
00:23:03
know, all that stuff.
00:23:04
>> Exactly. I have a good Woody Allen story
00:23:06
too that I could tell you. But so
00:23:08
anyway, Roy said,
00:23:10
>> please
00:23:10
>> uh he gave this amazing thing. He said,
00:23:13
so I I heard myself give a bad line
00:23:15
reading and I like froze and I basically
00:23:16
wanted to quit acting in that moment,
00:23:18
let alone the scene. And Roy tells me
00:23:20
this story. He goes, "Look, when I was
00:23:22
like 15 years old, this is Roy talking.
00:23:25
I'm at the my my I love my dad very much
00:23:29
and I was having lunch with my mother at
00:23:32
our country club and I see my dad coming
00:23:35
into the 18th hole in the golf green and
00:23:38
he's finishing his round at golf and he
00:23:40
we me and my mom see him grab his heart
00:23:42
and fall to the ground on the 18th green
00:23:46
and by the time we got to him he was
00:23:48
gone. He was wow he was dead.
00:23:51
>> And he said, now that was 35 years ago
00:23:53
when he told the story. He said,
00:23:54
"Sometimes when I tell that story,
00:23:56
>> I'm filled with emotion as if it just
00:23:58
happened, you know, and sometimes I'm
00:24:01
just reporting a thing that was really
00:24:03
painful for me, but um I don't have much
00:24:07
emotional connection to it because it's
00:24:09
been a long time." And he said, he said
00:24:11
to me, "That's what acting is." He said,
00:24:14
"You're not some takes or some nights on
00:24:16
stage, you're going to really feel it
00:24:18
and just be in there." And he said, "In
00:24:21
some nights, you're not." He said, "But
00:24:23
instead of like listening to yourself be
00:24:26
in it or not, if you just," he said,
00:24:28
"Sometimes when I every time that I tell
00:24:30
that story though to somebody, they
00:24:33
understand how devastating it was for
00:24:34
me, whether I'm filled with emotion or
00:24:36
not." He said, "As an actor, if you
00:24:38
don't feel it, just make sure your scene
00:24:40
partner gets where you're coming from."
00:24:42
And it's a way to completely relock back
00:24:44
into the scene. It's okay to report on
00:24:46
life as an actor on stage, too. And
00:24:49
after that, I was to totally freed up to
00:24:52
like,
00:24:53
>> you know, even when I felt like I
00:24:54
sucked, I felt like I could still stay
00:24:56
in the scene and make something that
00:24:58
worked.
00:24:58
>> Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. It's good. You
00:25:00
picked up a lot and it really really
00:25:01
helped.
00:25:02
>> Oh, I I I couldn't I couldn't do I
00:25:06
couldn't have done anything really. It
00:25:08
it made all my Simpsons characters
00:25:10
funnier because I felt like I
00:25:12
>> like instead of Jeff just doing Chief
00:25:14
Wiggum, which was such a fun voice, this
00:25:16
is just my impression of Mel Blank's
00:25:19
impression of Edward G. Robinson, you
00:25:21
know, and
00:25:23
>> Wigum and but then all of a sudden I was
00:25:26
like, well, what if I really were a cop?
00:25:27
how would I really hand I felt like I
00:25:29
could put myself more into these even
00:25:31
stupid characters and it made things
00:25:34
funnier and and better which was
00:25:35
something I think you do naturally uh
00:25:39
Dana in in these voices did you ever
00:25:42
have to like feel like you had to step
00:25:43
up the acting or once you got the voice
00:25:45
you just clicked in?
00:25:46
>> Um kind of depends on the character. I
00:25:49
mean I think uh for me like with George
00:25:52
B senior I was just trying to learn it
00:25:54
with the audience. I didn't have a very
00:25:56
good one when I first was assigned it
00:25:59
because my character won the election
00:26:01
and so I was very, you know, and then as
00:26:03
I went further, I was more playful with
00:26:05
it because I was in a oneshot and the
00:26:08
studio was quiet. There wasn't any
00:26:10
editing where I met throw anyone else
00:26:12
off. So I said that area that thing and
00:26:15
then I would start taking it and then it
00:26:17
became it literally became probably two
00:26:20
years before we're not going to do it
00:26:22
before I he left it was like nah got to
00:26:26
do it and it it worked because the
00:26:29
audience was coming with me but if I
00:26:31
when I was doing Jimmy Stewart in it's a
00:26:33
Wonderful Life parody I was just trying
00:26:35
to be a really good uh Jimmy Stewart
00:26:38
actor completely channeling him as much
00:26:42
as I
00:26:43
And and sometimes you just feel it when
00:26:45
you're doing a character. You feel their
00:26:48
their s earnestness is in Jimmy
00:26:51
Stewart's thing. Everything is just
00:26:53
sincere, you know, at least in It's a
00:26:56
Wonderful Life.
00:26:57
>> Every everything is just sincere. Well,
00:26:59
we have Hank Aera on here. So, and a lot
00:27:03
of people are saying a lot of nice
00:27:04
things about him. So, I don't I don't
00:27:06
know. I mean, do you ever do like just
00:27:09
Why don't you you do a special uh with
00:27:13
where you do sketches?
00:27:15
>> I get I did I I've written a oneman
00:27:17
show. I've actually become one of those
00:27:19
people. And uh
00:27:21
>> yeah,
00:27:22
>> well that's kind of close what he's
00:27:23
saying anyway. That's not bad.
00:27:25
>> And um
00:27:27
>> actually it's pretty kind it kind of
00:27:29
talks about what I just told you about
00:27:30
that acting class thing. And I go into a
00:27:32
lot of uh kind of, you know, as one man
00:27:35
shows will sort of darker things about
00:27:38
um how it was like things that were
00:27:40
funny weren't so funny.
00:27:42
>> Um and how it was equally my desire to
00:27:46
be anybody else but myself that drove me
00:27:49
uh to do characters and voices.
00:27:51
>> Yeah.
00:27:52
>> You know,
00:27:53
>> uh
00:27:54
>> so yeah, I did that. I hopefully put
00:27:56
that up in New York uh this year.
00:27:58
>> Let's put it up.
00:27:59
>> Oh, really?
00:28:01
Yeah.
00:28:01
>> What's the Do you want to give us the
00:28:03
title of it or
00:28:04
>> Hank?
00:28:04
>> I I think it's called Listen, never
00:28:06
mind, which is what my mother used to
00:28:08
say to me all the time. Listen, never
00:28:10
mind.
00:28:11
>> She say, "Listen, never mind."
00:28:13
>> Yes.
00:28:14
>> That's funny. That's
00:28:15
>> Well, she was the most dismissive person
00:28:16
I ever knew.
00:28:17
>> I'm dismissive.
00:28:18
>> And she had a dismissive catchphrase,
00:28:20
which was, "Listen, never mind.
00:28:22
>> Oh, never mind. It's not worth it, isn't
00:28:24
it?"
00:28:24
>> Well, it was like, "Uh, mom, I'm really
00:28:26
hungry. Listen, never mind. There's
00:28:27
people starving." But they also didn't
00:28:30
make any sense. Like, mama, I think I
00:28:32
might have twisted my ankle. Listen,
00:28:34
never mind. It's almost Yam Kapora,
00:28:35
which doesn't make any sense. But
00:28:38
>> I like young people are starving. You're
00:28:39
like, do I have to join them?
00:28:42
>> Can can I eat? And then they're still
00:28:44
starving.
00:28:44
>> Exactly. You're going to play a lot of
00:28:46
different characters in the play or
00:28:48
>> Yeah. Well, it's it's it's really like a
00:28:50
life story. It's like a lot of the
00:28:52
origins of the voices. this was that guy
00:28:54
and that was that person and
00:28:56
>> and you know stuff like
00:28:58
>> I was I you know I do a young young
00:29:01
Alpuccino impression you know Godfather
00:29:03
Al
00:29:06
>> I'm dying here everybody's coming down
00:29:08
on me here that
00:29:10
>> love it
00:29:10
>> I was doing a play in West Hollywood
00:29:14
when I got the Simpsons audition I was
00:29:16
playing a drug dealer doing that voice
00:29:19
so I auditioned for Mo the bartender
00:29:22
with this voice and they want they said
00:29:25
can you make it grally we like the and
00:29:28
so to me grally is Bruce Springsteen
00:29:30
which I've been imitating since I was 15
00:29:33
years old that's fantastic
00:29:36
>> if you if you take young alino one end
00:29:40
>> and Bruce Springsteen in the other and
00:29:41
you mix them right in the middle there
00:29:43
that's motor bartender he's a mash up
00:29:45
there
00:29:46
>> so it's a lot of that kind of relaying
00:29:49
little origins of voices like that love
00:29:52
that stuff.
00:29:54
>> The kids do enjoy that.
00:29:56
>> I in the early days of of when Trump
00:29:59
came out, I was on some talk show and I
00:30:02
said it's really it's Regis Filman and
00:30:04
Brando coming together, you know.
00:30:08
Anyway, you ready for this? And then I
00:30:12
got to you know, I mean, you can see how
00:30:14
those two together.
00:30:15
>> I showed my 16-year-old son the
00:30:17
Godfather for the first time. So, I've
00:30:20
been working on my veto caron
00:30:22
impression.
00:30:22
>> Oh, good.
00:30:23
>> It's good for disciplining your boy. His
00:30:26
name's How's Helvator? Come over here.
00:30:31
>> Me and Dana were just talking about
00:30:32
Brando in the field at the end when he
00:30:35
like the kids playing
00:30:37
>> when he dies
00:30:39
>> with the teeth
00:30:41
and you're like, we were just saying I
00:30:43
don't even know if they knew what they
00:30:44
were doing. That tay Copel is like do
00:30:46
whatever you want on this one, you know.
00:30:50
And when you
00:30:51
>> in your mind, is Brando the greatest
00:30:54
film actor or or you have another
00:30:57
favorite?
00:30:58
>> Good one.
00:30:59
>> Well, he was so all over the place. You
00:31:03
know, there were some that were just
00:31:04
baffling. I mean, Veto Corleone is
00:31:07
definitely one of the best ever, and he
00:31:09
was to me like in Street Car and and On
00:31:12
the Waterfront, he was way ahead of his
00:31:14
time. Um, so was Jimmy Stewart actually
00:31:18
in my opinion like his performance in
00:31:19
It's a Wonderful Life was
00:31:22
>> breathtakingly realistic
00:31:24
in an era when they all sounded like
00:31:26
this. They all sounded like, you know,
00:31:27
>> Oh, that's right. Yeah.
00:31:29
>> Oh, and the darkness before his nervous
00:31:31
breakdown with the with you was saying,
00:31:34
"Why do I have to have all these kids?"
00:31:36
I mean, the movie is way heavier than
00:31:38
people think. And the theme of the movie
00:31:40
is so evergreen. I mean, just
00:31:43
>> it was a flop, too. No, it was so ahead
00:31:45
of its time. Nobody liked it when it
00:31:47
came out.
00:31:48
>> Capricorn, they called it. Yeah.
00:31:50
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:51
>> Yeah.
00:31:51
>> What? It's a Wonderful Life you're
00:31:52
talking about.
00:31:53
>> Yeah. Yeah. Bombed basically. It wasn't
00:31:56
>> Yeah. Just get it out of here.
00:31:58
>> Then they sold the movie out of my
00:32:00
theater.
00:32:01
>> I think it only really had its life by
00:32:03
the time it became public domain. I
00:32:05
think
00:32:06
>> TVs or
00:32:07
>> where everyone could just see it. I
00:32:08
think they Yeah, they're burning it off
00:32:09
at Christmas or something. I maybe I
00:32:11
heard this too. And then everyone got
00:32:13
into it.
00:32:14
>> Yeah.
00:32:15
>> You know, the Grinch never worked again
00:32:16
after that one.
00:32:19
>> All right. Whatever.
00:32:20
>> Oh, the Boff Grin.
00:32:22
>> No, just the Grinch.
00:32:24
>> Just the Grinch him. There have been a
00:32:25
lot of Grinches. Let's face it.
00:32:27
>> I do a bit laid.
00:32:28
>> I like those old timey actors as Bill
00:32:30
her calls him. Um, but I do a bit about
00:32:35
the world's first sociopath. Did people
00:32:37
know they had mental problems in ancient
00:32:39
times? And I I'm just using Peter Lori
00:32:42
and no one has busted me on it, you
00:32:44
know, like just just like where's
00:32:47
where's that Steve? I don't know what's
00:32:50
that hand coming out of the ground. It's
00:32:52
Steve. I killed him. Am I weird? I don't
00:32:56
know. But you got to stop that. So
00:32:58
anyway, it's just you can use those
00:33:00
characters and no one really reme
00:33:06
I was
00:33:08
still a movie. are now at the museum
00:33:11
tour.
00:33:11
>> Oh yeah, where you were evil shadow that
00:33:14
was as a joke. I just went should I do
00:33:16
Bord calloff? He was the original mummy
00:33:19
>> and Ben cracked up and said no you have
00:33:21
to do that
00:33:22
>> like really.
00:33:23
>> Um
00:33:25
>> so yeah and yes Peter Lori you can use
00:33:28
for sure.
00:33:30
>> Professor Frank is just uh was just a
00:33:32
nutty professor. Uh the Jerry Lewis
00:33:35
version of course. Yeah, they're so old
00:33:37
that nobody they think they're original
00:33:38
voices. Nobody recognizes.
00:33:40
>> I know. That's that's a really great use
00:33:42
of your your gift.
00:33:44
>> Lou the cop is Stallone. Is that what
00:33:46
you said?
00:33:47
>> Yeah. Lou the cop would
00:33:50
a bad Stallone, you know, and a little
00:33:53
toned down Stallone. Yeah.
00:33:55
>> Yeah. Very nasely there. When I you when
00:33:57
you do people like that like Boris
00:33:59
Caroff is it kind of informed like what
00:34:01
was in that guy's brain that somehow he
00:34:04
decided to talk like that because it's
00:34:06
almost feminine or and bizarre
00:34:08
>> wings back then
00:34:09
>> like what is where is who is that person
00:34:12
that's talking I mean
00:34:14
>> I think that's just the way he talked. I
00:34:17
really do very compelling.
00:34:19
>> A lot of those guys had very distinct I
00:34:22
mean they were Lori and Carlo I'm big
00:34:25
fans of both them. They were
00:34:26
unbelievable actor. They were just Oh,
00:34:28
yeah. Talk about,
00:34:29
>> you know, free to be themselves on
00:34:31
camera. They were just like and they
00:34:33
they brought a lot of, you know, reality
00:34:36
and grit to these weird oldfashioned
00:34:38
things.
00:34:39
>> Yeah. I mean, there's it's it it's sort
00:34:42
of I don't know if it's a trope at this
00:34:44
point, but doing for young
00:34:46
Impressionists doing modern movie stars,
00:34:49
I I just make a joke that I I do a
00:34:51
Timothy Shalom, but I just go, "What's
00:34:53
up, man?" And you know, I'm not with him
00:34:54
at all, but uh there was a cavalcade,
00:34:57
you know, between John Wayne and Kirk
00:34:59
Douglas and all of those old movie
00:35:01
stars. They just had really weird
00:35:03
voices. Who do we have? We do. We have
00:35:07
the same amount of
00:35:08
>> Who's today that's got a very
00:35:10
interesting
00:35:11
>> Who's Carrie Grant? Well, who's the guy
00:35:13
who talks like this?
00:35:14
>> We don't have one. We don't
00:35:16
>> Carrie Grant was great with that. Well,
00:35:18
I don't do in my I used to do uh Eric
00:35:22
Roberts.
00:35:23
>> Oh, yeah. That's a good one.
00:35:25
>> [ __ ] Greenwich Village, man.
00:35:29
>> They cut off
00:35:33
[ __ ] dumb.
00:35:36
>> I used to do uh Mickey Rock, too. I used
00:35:39
to like to do
00:35:40
>> Oh, really? I know what you're doing.
00:35:42
Counselor, but don't do it. It's from
00:35:43
Body Heat.
00:35:44
>> Yeah, Body Heat.
00:35:45
>> Body Heat. You know, Paul Greenwich for
00:35:47
Diner. Great movies.
00:35:49
>> Yeah, let me do it. I do it for you for
00:35:52
your counselor. And then this thing he
00:35:54
kept using in all his movies, right?
00:35:57
>> But now Mickey sounds like Why do all
00:35:59
the Why do old actors end up sounding
00:36:02
like this? What is this? You know, like
00:36:05
Pacino was like this, you know, and now
00:36:07
Al sounds like this. What is that?
00:36:10
>> Maybe they're projecting a fainter voice
00:36:12
or something. I have a theory that that
00:36:14
as the testosterone goes down and
00:36:16
they're older gentlemen, they make their
00:36:18
voice super alpha. You know,
00:36:21
>> hey, I'm 97.
00:36:26
How are you doing? You know, it's like I
00:36:29
guess that's great ass.
00:36:31
>> Exactly. I I hope it doesn't happen to
00:36:33
me. That's all I
00:36:35
>> Here's another thing I want to ask you
00:36:36
about.
00:36:37
Does it seem like
00:36:40
most actors get more theatrical movie
00:36:42
stars like Alpacino which I I love
00:36:44
Scarface? I'm possessed by it actually
00:36:47
as a as an oporadic movie
00:36:50
man you know all that stuff. Um, and
00:36:53
then Christopher Walkin also, if you see
00:36:55
him in the Woody Allen movie and where
00:36:57
he kind of made a character out of him,
00:36:59
but those are sort of recent times big
00:37:02
big time big voice actors
00:37:06
>> theories.
00:37:06
>> I don't know. Do they I mean Daniel um
00:37:09
Jeff Goldblum sort of similar.
00:37:11
>> Yeah, some of them do. I mean, some of
00:37:13
them get more subtle.
00:37:14
>> Oh, you asked me. I mean, Daniel D.
00:37:16
Lewis is amazing. I personally think
00:37:18
Robert Downey Jr. is maybe the American
00:37:21
genius of our time. I mean, I know he's
00:37:23
Iron Man and everything and that's what
00:37:25
we think of him as now, but
00:37:26
>> I don't
00:37:27
>> there's nothing the guy can't do really.
00:37:30
>> Yeah, he's he's he's freaky good. Freaky
00:37:32
good.
00:37:33
>> Um, but yeah, Chris Wong, I don't know.
00:37:35
He's amazing. Like some of these guys
00:37:38
just real Shatner, they realize that
00:37:40
they're sort of bigger than life and
00:37:42
they lean into it. Like Nicholson sort
00:37:44
of did the same thing later in his
00:37:46
career. Once people pick up on it, they
00:37:48
almost turn into that more. They turn
00:37:50
into the impression more.
00:37:51
>> Yeah.
00:37:52
>> Well, the rhythm of what Christopher
00:37:54
Walkan did is just so effective.
00:37:58
I don't know. Waiting for the wood. I
00:38:02
mean, it's like it's a brilliant song. I
00:38:04
I look at him as musically just
00:38:06
brilliant.
00:38:07
>> He talks in haikus,
00:38:09
>> which he is gifted that way. He comes
00:38:11
from musical theater. I really wonder I
00:38:14
worked with him once. I wanted to ask
00:38:16
him, but I never got up the nerve. I'm
00:38:17
like, do you plan this [ __ ] or is it
00:38:20
just what comes out? You know what I
00:38:21
mean?
00:38:22
>> Yeah.
00:38:24
>> Or does everyone expect this is how
00:38:26
we're hiring you? We want you to sound
00:38:29
like this because it's so
00:38:30
>> But was he improvising, you mean, or
00:38:32
just doing the rhythm of that voice in
00:38:35
such a
00:38:36
>> He would I mean, I didn't work with him
00:38:37
much. Uh, but he No, he was he pretty
00:38:40
much stuck to the script and
00:38:42
>> yeah,
00:38:42
>> it was kind of a little different each
00:38:44
time. But it just that delivery I I just
00:38:47
I wondered uh if he planned it on
00:38:49
Although did you see him in Severance?
00:38:52
>> Yes. Yeah. It was very small.
00:38:55
>> Very small.
00:38:56
>> Yeah. He can do whatever he wants.
00:38:58
>> Yeah.
00:38:58
>> I love him.
00:39:00
>> I did I was he was in Wayne's World 2
00:39:02
and that was kind of a thrill at the
00:39:04
time. I'm dressed as G and then he would
00:39:06
come up and his first line was Gar and
00:39:09
the way he would say it was so like he
00:39:11
was going to kill me. Goth
00:39:14
long long pause, you know. So I I
00:39:18
decided to do Luc Costello and then Mike
00:39:20
and I both went,
00:39:23
you know, one of the
00:39:25
>> that thing of fear. But Goth is like a
00:39:30
Yeah, it's got three syllables
00:39:32
>> that kills me. Whenever I run into him,
00:39:35
>> if I run into him, he says he sounds
00:39:38
like him to me in the brief times like
00:39:42
that. It's not like only when he's on
00:39:45
camera. He he was asking me if I ever
00:39:48
worked with an actor dog and um
00:39:51
>> Oh yeah,
00:39:52
>> remember he caught me off guard. But but
00:39:54
he was doing pauses. It was an odd
00:39:58
question and then he continued to ask
00:40:00
questions and I was like this is great
00:40:03
and I wish this was shot. Everything
00:40:06
he's saying is funny.
00:40:08
>> He does he is really he does have that
00:40:11
rhythm in real life.
00:40:12
>> Yeah.
00:40:12
>> He asked you did you ever work with an
00:40:14
actor dog? Is that what he was a lot of
00:40:17
stuff? We were waiting for a scene and
00:40:19
we're in the dark
00:40:20
>> and there's about four characters in
00:40:22
there waiting for action and they're
00:40:23
like holding
00:40:26
and uh there's a pause and he's in the
00:40:28
dark and then he goes, "David, I can't
00:40:31
really do him." He goes, "Hey, did you
00:40:34
ever work with an act dog?" And I go,
00:40:36
"Uh, weird."
00:40:39
>> I go, "I have there is
00:40:40
>> that's the funniest part." I go, "There
00:40:42
is one in this movie some other scenes."
00:40:45
>> And he goes, he goes, "They're good.
00:40:47
They they really they know what to do.
00:40:49
They're well trained. I go, "Yeah." And
00:40:51
then he paused and he goes, "Hey, have
00:40:55
you ever worked with an act cat?" And I
00:40:58
go, "An actor cat?" I go, "No, I don't."
00:41:00
I mean, then we're all kind of giggling
00:41:02
going, "Is he serious?" I go, "I don't I
00:41:05
don't think so." Because he goes he
00:41:07
goes, "They're no good because you tell
00:41:09
them what to do and they don't do it.
00:41:12
But if you yell or something to an act
00:41:14
catat, they jump." But that's that's
00:41:16
every cat would do that.
00:41:17
>> He'll go into the details
00:41:18
>> and I go, "Yeah." And then he goes,
00:41:20
"Ever work with an at the mouse."
00:41:23
>> No.
00:41:24
>> And I go, "I don't think there are that
00:41:26
many." And he goes, "He's making it up
00:41:27
at
00:41:27
>> there." I did mouse trap. Remember mouse
00:41:30
trap?
00:41:31
>> Oh, yeah. Nathan Lane was
00:41:34
uh
00:41:35
>> who was the other guy in that?
00:41:37
>> It wasn't Broadick, was it?
00:41:39
>> Matthew Broadick. No. So he goes, "You
00:41:42
tell a mouse
00:41:44
>> to go up, take a beat, and go to the
00:41:46
right, and they do it. They're smart."
00:41:49
He thinks they're smarter than cats,
00:41:51
which they maybe are. And then once he's
00:41:54
getting into how smart the actor mouses
00:41:56
are, then they go rolling.
00:41:59
And then we never never came up again.
00:42:01
>> Did you ever work with Anthony Hopkins?
00:42:03
He's another character. I never did,
00:42:06
>> but I know people um who uh collect
00:42:10
Nathan Lane stories. It was Lee Evans,
00:42:13
by the way. That's
00:42:15
>> Oh, yeah. Mouse Hunt with Nathan Lane.
00:42:18
>> Mouse Trap. Yeah, Mouse.
00:42:19
>> Uh
00:42:21
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:42:22
>> I just forgot. What did you say?
00:42:23
>> Nathan Lane stories. Oh, I just Anthony
00:42:26
Hopkins is also
00:42:27
>> No, never. Oh, he's on Yeah, he's got to
00:42:29
go up there. read reads the script 200
00:42:32
times, does no research, nothing. Reads
00:42:34
it, he said 200 times. He has the entire
00:42:37
script memorized. He had a Polaroid,
00:42:39
this is in the early 90s, of his
00:42:41
character, and he take it out of his
00:42:43
pocket. It was kind of crumpled up
00:42:44
Polaroid shot of himself and they're
00:42:46
going speed. And he would just put it up
00:42:48
against his face, look at it, and then
00:42:51
put it on his face and go
00:42:54
and then put it back in. And then he
00:42:56
would be the character. So he's got his
00:42:58
own way of doing
00:42:58
>> that's like Hannibal Lectctor like
00:43:00
>> I know there was a little bit of uh that
00:43:03
Dennis Hopper movie. What was that?
00:43:05
>> Blue
00:43:07
sniffing this [ __ ]
00:43:08
>> Yeah.
00:43:08
>> Um
00:43:10
>> yeah there's people who collect Chris
00:43:12
Walkan stories you know.
00:43:13
>> Yeah.
00:43:14
>> Like you know that actor Titus Welliver
00:43:17
>> uh Titus played that great detective
00:43:20
series um
00:43:21
>> sounds like a fake
00:43:22
>> in the books. Mhm.
00:43:23
>> Uh anyway, he does an unbelievably good
00:43:26
walking impression and uh apparently
00:43:29
like when he and Grace Jones were
00:43:31
shooting that Bond movie where they
00:43:32
played like villains together, you know,
00:43:34
he had like Grace Jones had like blonde
00:43:36
hair and
00:43:37
>> Yeah. They're shooting uh like in the
00:43:40
Swiss Alps or something and he and Grace
00:43:43
Jones walked into some, you know, local
00:43:47
little tavern or whatever. And you can
00:43:50
imagine and he had like white hair, I
00:43:52
think, and she had
00:43:53
>> and uh so the locals all kind of turned
00:43:55
around and stared at them,
00:43:58
>> as you might imagine.
00:43:59
>> And apparently Chris Walkan broke the
00:44:01
ice with cold slaw for everyone.
00:44:08
Oh, there's no story you could you could
00:44:09
say where you'd have to say which one is
00:44:11
real and which one is a fake walking
00:44:13
story.
00:44:13
>> No, it's Yeah.
00:44:15
>> indistinguishable.
00:44:17
>> Also, I think Titus happened to him
00:44:19
person. He was doing some film with him
00:44:20
and it was their day off. No, this is I
00:44:23
got this from the person though. This
00:44:25
wasn't like a secondhand story and
00:44:27
they're shooting somewhere and it's the
00:44:29
day off and
00:44:31
Chris is uh
00:44:35
they're walking somewhere and Chris is
00:44:36
like waiting. He's in the river like
00:44:38
he's in a creek or something. He's just
00:44:40
standing in water, you know, like a a
00:44:43
pool or I don't know where he was, but
00:44:46
it was odd. And they said, "Hey, Chris,
00:44:49
are are you okay?"
00:44:52
Because he was just standing in there.
00:44:54
>> Yeah.
00:44:54
>> And he apparently went, "Today I am an
00:44:58
alligator."
00:45:01
>> Today I am an alligator.
00:45:02
>> Yeah. All right, we're back in five.
00:45:06
I was hanging out with him for this
00:45:08
photo shoot in New York. He just ended
00:45:10
up on a couch with him for like an hour
00:45:13
and he was just interesting. He saw my
00:45:15
phone. Don't have a phone. No,
00:45:18
>> you know. Well,
00:45:19
>> do you have TV?
00:45:21
Don't watch it. No.
00:45:25
>> You don't watch TV. I mean, what do you
00:45:26
what do you do? What do you do at night?
00:45:28
He goes, "Magazines.
00:45:31
Magazines. Every night you read like
00:45:36
And then I asked him, "Do you paint?"
00:45:38
And he goes, "Of course I paint. All old
00:45:40
actors paint."
00:45:42
>> That's funny.
00:45:45
Some of the probably the most
00:45:46
uncomfortable moments of my life have
00:45:49
been spent like that. Like in between
00:45:51
takes with legendary actors or
00:45:55
>> you just run out of small talk after
00:45:57
like two or three days and then you know
00:45:59
like Jean Hackman for example.
00:46:01
>> Oh wow. What a
00:46:02
>> Oh, is that a bird cage? Yeah. Oh,
00:46:05
that's right. Birdman.
00:46:07
>> That incredible move. Perfect movie. You
00:46:09
were great in that.
00:46:10
>> Thank you very much. Mike Nichols is
00:46:12
amazing. But yeah, Gene Hackman
00:46:15
um you know, he just doesn't
00:46:19
suffer fools really, which you turn into
00:46:21
around I get very like wound up around
00:46:24
>> Oh, yeah.
00:46:25
>> people I admire, you know.
00:46:27
>> I He's intimidating. Go ahead.
00:46:29
>> He's a big He's one of my favorites.
00:46:31
>> He is amazing and he was very nice. And
00:46:33
then but he just doesn't once the small
00:46:36
talk was done he just didn't feel the
00:46:37
need to
00:46:39
>> you know but you know I like how you're
00:46:40
like you just said with Chris what
00:46:41
you're but you're there together for
00:46:43
many minutes like waiting for action or
00:46:45
whatever you're doing.
00:46:46
>> Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:47
>> By the way this is a world of no phones
00:46:49
so it's not like people go back to their
00:46:50
phones. It's like sitting in silence
00:46:53
>> and sometimes you just got to let them
00:46:55
just sit there. Well, you're just
00:46:57
thinking what could you say to Jean
00:47:00
Hackman at that moment in time that he
00:47:03
would sit up and go, "Yeah." and start
00:47:06
you like like turn him on basically like
00:47:08
get him really excited.
00:47:09
>> I did a movie called The Ultimate of
00:47:11
This. I did a movie called Mystery
00:47:13
Alaska. It was this hockey movie.
00:47:15
>> Hockey and uh uh Bert Reynolds was in
00:47:18
it. Okay. Okay. And I had this one scene
00:47:20
with Bert
00:47:21
>> and
00:47:22
>> Bert Reynolds uh absolutely had like an
00:47:26
oldfashioned movie star freakout
00:47:29
meltdown
00:47:31
>> like just screaming at the top of his
00:47:34
lung.
00:47:34
>> Really?
00:47:35
>> Yeah.
00:47:36
>> Why? Or just tell the story.
00:47:38
>> He uh Oh my
00:47:41
>> It was Oh, it was the weekend he was
00:47:43
nominated for Boogie Nights. Okay.
00:47:46
>> Oh, Boogie Nights. Yeah. shooting in the
00:47:48
in the Canadian Rockies near Calgary in
00:47:53
like the middle of the
00:47:55
middle of nowhere and we had to get
00:47:58
shoot him out so that he'd get back to
00:47:59
LA and do press, you know, for the
00:48:01
Oscars that
00:48:02
>> Yeah.
00:48:03
>> And so, uh, we rehearse, uh, the scene a
00:48:07
little bit and, uh, Bird also had one of
00:48:10
those old actor voices at that point. He
00:48:14
says to the director, which was uh Jay
00:48:15
Roach,
00:48:17
>> oh, Austin Powers. Yeah.
00:48:18
>> Yes. If you like, I can uh stand up on
00:48:21
this line.
00:48:23
>> Jay says, "Yeah, maybe." So, I just
00:48:25
might save your shot cuz because that
00:48:29
[ __ ] over there said it's GOING TO BE A
00:48:32
LONG [ __ ] NIGHT. IT'S POINTING AT A
00:48:34
producer who I guess it said it's going
00:48:36
to be a long night.
00:48:36
>> Oh, because Oh, because Bert just made a
00:48:38
suggestion kind of. No,
00:48:40
>> I think just cuz we were night shooting
00:48:42
and I guess Bert was feeling codependent
00:48:44
because we had to shoot him out by
00:48:45
midnight
00:48:46
>> to get on a helicopter to go to the
00:48:48
Oscars.
00:48:49
>> Yeah.
00:48:49
>> And he he literally he like flipped out
00:48:51
on the guy. Just absolutely flipped up.
00:48:54
Bert's a scary
00:48:55
>> That was pretty intense what you just
00:48:57
did.
00:48:57
>> Sorry. I didn't mean to scare you.
00:48:58
>> No, no. I mean, use that the next time
00:49:00
you're in a movie. I go, "Oh, well, do
00:49:02
what you did on Flying the Wall."
00:49:03
>> Well, thanks to Roy London. I I didn't
00:49:04
commit. I can relay it. Yes, it was
00:49:07
terrifying. But the point is he flips
00:49:08
out. We calm them down and we're
00:49:11
waiting. They're setting up the lights
00:49:12
and we couldn't go anywhere because
00:49:14
we're it was a snowstorm and we're in
00:49:15
the set and all of us were together, the
00:49:18
crew and the cast, the producers,
00:49:19
everyone. And I sat there for 20 minutes
00:49:21
and Bert sits next to me because we're
00:49:23
waiting to shoot and I racked my brain
00:49:25
for like what do you possibly say to
00:49:27
somebody
00:49:28
>> after?
00:49:29
>> Yes.
00:49:30
>> Okay. I want to know David, what would
00:49:32
you say? Then we're going to find out
00:49:33
what happened. David, what would you say
00:49:34
in that moment? It's like a game show.
00:49:36
I'd say, who do you think the Cardinals
00:49:38
are gonna pick in the draft?
00:49:40
>> I would say, you know, Bert, that guy
00:49:42
over there. You're right. [ __ ] that guy.
00:49:44
>> Prick.
00:49:45
>> That's what I would have done that.
00:49:47
>> That prick was talking [ __ ] to me
00:49:48
earlier, too, Bert.
00:49:50
>> Yeah. So, what happened?
00:49:52
>> I thought many things like that, and I'm
00:49:55
sitting there literally just I I can't
00:49:58
get up and walk away because I'm
00:49:59
terrified to make him angry. I don't
00:50:02
know what to do. And finally, he broke
00:50:04
the silence. I swear to God this is
00:50:06
true. He leaned into me very quietly and
00:50:09
he said
00:50:12
>> I uh
00:50:14
I never told Sally I loved her.
00:50:17
>> Whoa.
00:50:18
>> I said what?
00:50:20
>> Wow.
00:50:21
>> I should uh I should I said oh you mean
00:50:25
you're talking about Sally Field, aren't
00:50:26
you?
00:50:27
>> Wow.
00:50:27
>> Because they were like famously a
00:50:29
couple.
00:50:30
>> Yeah.
00:50:30
>> But like 25 years before that,
00:50:33
>> right? So why he chose that moment to
00:50:36
break
00:50:37
>> that silence with that statement, I will
00:50:40
never know.
00:50:41
>> It felt like, you know, sometimes when
00:50:43
people have PTSD or redundant things
00:50:46
they need to get out, you were like
00:50:47
fresh meat. You were someone to tell.
00:50:49
And obviously he intuited that you were
00:50:52
a very decent person. Right.
00:50:54
>> Right. So
00:50:55
>> that would be a very positive spin on
00:50:57
that story. I think you're right.
00:50:58
>> I'm trying to be positive.
00:51:00
>> I think it's nice.
00:51:01
>> Here's what I would have said as a
00:51:02
backup. Look, I I I don't I don't mean
00:51:05
to fan out, but your your performance in
00:51:08
Deliverance is one of the greatest
00:51:09
things ever put on film. Anyway, I got I
00:51:11
gota get Can I get you something at
00:51:13
catering? Would that work?
00:51:16
>> Vanity play.
00:51:17
>> Yes, that would have actually worked.
00:51:19
>> They have chili cups. I'll get you a
00:51:20
chili cup. I'll be
00:51:21
>> or some other more obscure movie maybe,
00:51:24
you know. But yeah,
00:51:25
>> Sharkies Machine.
00:51:27
>> Sharks Machine.
00:51:28
>> Smokey and the Bandit 2 with Gleason.
00:51:33
But Jackie,
00:51:33
>> famous story about um apparently James
00:51:37
El Brooks offered Bert Reynolds the
00:51:40
Nicholson role in terms of endearment.
00:51:43
>> That's what I read too.
00:51:44
>> And he turned it down to do like stroker
00:51:46
race or something.
00:51:50
>> I don't understand that.
00:51:51
>> He might have been still upset about
00:51:52
that. That might have contributed to the
00:51:55
>> Well, wait. Last thing. I know we got to
00:51:57
get going. But Sharky's machine,
00:51:59
they cut off his hand. Cut off his
00:52:01
thumb. Am I crazy? When I was a kid, I
00:52:03
saw
00:52:03
>> finger. I think it's pinky.
00:52:06
>> Was he was he a lone shark or a fixer or
00:52:09
something?
00:52:10
>> He was a cop. He was a cop.
00:52:12
>> Oh, he's a cop.
00:52:13
>> And he's getting too close to like the
00:52:14
mob. I've seen this.
00:52:15
>> Yeah. Got too close to the heat.
00:52:17
>> Yes. And it turns out one of his fellow
00:52:19
cops betrayed him.
00:52:20
>> Oh,
00:52:21
>> and they like they they got him and and
00:52:23
uh they need to know where he's fallen
00:52:26
in love with. Who is that gorgeous
00:52:27
actress? Rachel Ward. Oof.
00:52:30
>> And she's this prostitute who knows too
00:52:32
much and he's got her stash somewhere
00:52:34
and they need to know where and they
00:52:36
start chopping off his fingers by the
00:52:39
joint. You know,
00:52:41
>> you know what's funny? This is a side
00:52:42
story, but these beautiful well-known
00:52:44
actresses almost every movie they're
00:52:47
like in this scene you're just going to
00:52:48
be completely naked. And they're like,
00:52:50
"Okay, rolling." It was like, you know
00:52:53
what I mean? It just at some point it
00:52:54
just stopped. But for a while there, I
00:52:56
was like, "Is everyone just going along
00:52:57
with this?" I think it was you couldn't
00:53:00
really
00:53:00
>> fight it.
00:53:02
>> Some actresses drew the line, but yeah,
00:53:04
back then it was sort of standard. You
00:53:07
ever do a scene where you had to be
00:53:09
naked with someone like
00:53:10
>> Yeah.
00:53:11
>> sex scene or
00:53:12
>> whatever.
00:53:13
>> It's one of the weirdest things ever.
00:53:15
>> It's one of the grossest for them.
00:53:17
>> That's weird. Uh
00:53:19
>> I did I did this thing with Kelly Lynch.
00:53:22
Okay.
00:53:23
>> And she had a nudity clause, so it
00:53:25
couldn't be her nude. So, you had to be
00:53:28
the
00:53:29
>> Well, I I mean, they didn't they didn't
00:53:31
>> Your call said you had to be there. They
00:53:32
>> didn't show any my money parts, but no,
00:53:35
but at at one point, we're doing this
00:53:37
scene and it's like a porno. It's like a
00:53:39
porn like, "Okay, now you know they like
00:53:41
the director like yells, "Oh, so now
00:53:42
kiss down her body. Okay, now like he'll
00:53:45
direct you like how to, you know, what
00:53:47
foreplay to engage in really." So then
00:53:49
they call cut and you do that with with
00:53:52
Telly and she goes out and they bring h
00:53:55
they bring in this this body double.
00:53:58
>> Oh. Oh. Oh wow.
00:53:59
>> And they say, "Hi, this is uh this is
00:54:01
Jennifer. Hi. Nice to meet you." And the
00:54:03
robe off. She's naked. And she gets in
00:54:06
bed
00:54:07
>> and and then you do the stuff that now
00:54:10
they can show the nudity. Okay. So kiss
00:54:13
down her body. Okay. Okay. Go back now.
00:54:16
Kiss back up. And now like Okay. Fondler
00:54:19
brass snout and so and you do that for a
00:54:22
take like cut great we got it and and
00:54:24
she's gone and you never see her again
00:54:26
I'm sure that there are prostitutes and
00:54:29
John's who had much more of an exchange
00:54:31
than I have with
00:54:33
>> Did you find yourself hanging out you
00:54:35
know for the close-up so like okay it's
00:54:37
the moment of he's in he's just he's
00:54:39
penetrated you and and you want her
00:54:42
reaction you could tell the the size of
00:54:45
the member but he's like you know
00:54:48
Do you know what I'm saying? Like
00:54:52
>> so you can be there. Go,
00:54:53
>> No, honey. I'm bigger than that. So, can
00:54:55
you react more?
00:54:56
>> Yeah. It's going to be It's going to be
00:54:58
quite a thing. So, could you get a
00:55:00
little bigger in your close up? Like,
00:55:01
>> or the director, it's whatever he's
00:55:03
into, he's like, "Now, kiss up her elbow
00:55:04
and kind of chew it a little bit."
00:55:06
Everyone,
00:55:07
>> well, it was kind of like that, you
00:55:09
know? It was like, okay, that's how you
00:55:10
do that. But the funny thing is the
00:55:12
movie I'm watching, let's say I watch
00:55:14
that movie, I think it's Kelly Lynch, so
00:55:16
she's not really saving anything. It's
00:55:18
like, oh, those are boobs. They don't
00:55:20
show her face, but I guess those are her
00:55:22
boobs. I don't know.
00:55:23
>> Totally. I mean, yeah, but you know.
00:55:26
>> Yeah. I miss the old I miss the
00:55:28
oldfashioned movies where the woman
00:55:29
would pound the guy's chest. You're an
00:55:31
impossible beast. And then they'd make
00:55:34
out.
00:55:34
>> Yeah. Then it's that's four points.
00:55:35
>> You're impossible beast.
00:55:36
>> That's what I like, Dana.
00:55:38
>> I like those. We've never brought up
00:55:40
that subject of reaction shots on
00:55:42
simulated sex before. That's a first.
00:55:45
>> That's a good area.
00:55:45
>> I just wanted uh I wanted to break
00:55:47
ground here.
00:55:48
>> No, no. I brought up the thing of you
00:55:50
being on set going I need a little bit
00:55:52
of reaction, please.
00:55:53
>> Dana, do you need to ask an anything
00:55:55
other than
00:55:56
>> Well, I would just do this real quick
00:55:57
because I I um you're very interesting
00:56:01
to talk to and this is an impossible
00:56:03
thing to ask people, but in no
00:56:06
particular order, top five movies all
00:56:08
time. No particular order because it's
00:56:10
saying one, two, three, four, five.
00:56:12
>> We've talked like I, you know, it's it's
00:56:14
a very boring list.
00:56:15
>> Godfather one and two. There's two
00:56:17
>> Good Fellas for sure. Which I like to
00:56:19
think of as Godfather 3. I replace the
00:56:22
actual Godfather.
00:56:23
>> Yeah. Okay. Those are all
00:56:25
>> It's a Wonderful Life. Absolutely. Is in
00:56:27
my top five.
00:56:28
>> Okay. You can go to 10 if you've got so
00:56:30
many.
00:56:31
>> I don't know. Those are really uh huge
00:56:33
among
00:56:34
>> um ones that I just like um long time
00:56:37
when I I appreciate Jaws a lot.
00:56:40
>> Yeah, it's a great film.
00:56:41
>> I appreciate Alien a lot.
00:56:44
>> Yeah.
00:56:45
>> I love I love um probably the time I saw
00:56:49
it, I was 14 when I saw uh 2001 of Space
00:56:52
Odyssey. I love Planet of the Apes.
00:56:54
>> Boom. I love Redford in the 70s. I love
00:56:58
I love all the President's Men. The
00:57:00
President's Men is definitely in my top
00:57:02
10 at least.
00:57:02
>> We've seen it recently. My wife and I
00:57:04
hadn't seen it in a few years and holy
00:57:06
[ __ ] does it hold up.
00:57:07
>> Totally. More relevant than
00:57:10
>> it's so brilliant and and relevant
00:57:13
everything. Um, Three Days of the
00:57:15
Condor, Butch Casting, Sundance Kid. Um,
00:57:19
>> oh, the Sting I would put way up there.
00:57:21
>> The Redford Newman. Redford got uh
00:57:23
Newman got more subtle as he went along
00:57:26
as an older actor,
00:57:27
>> but Redford was always we haven't had a
00:57:30
blue-eyed wasp held back movie star that
00:57:34
well we just watched the horse whisperer
00:57:35
the other night, you know, and uh he he
00:57:38
just had a he hadn't he's just movie
00:57:40
star. I don't know. I mean, they never
00:57:42
gave him an acting award, but he's and
00:57:44
he was did he not win?
00:57:45
>> He was behind all the movies. Sydney
00:57:48
Pollock and were collaborating and
00:57:50
finally he does ordinary people. So
00:57:52
anyway, he's an interesting God rest his
00:57:54
soul character.
00:57:55
>> No, I I my I did quiz show for him.
00:57:58
>> Oh, that's right.
00:57:59
>> My first big movie that I got
00:58:02
>> and uh thanks to Roy London and I just
00:58:05
ran into um John Terturo who was in that
00:58:08
as well just the other night.
00:58:10
>> Another great great actor.
00:58:11
>> He's incredible. Uh but um yeah, that
00:58:17
they don't make him like Redford and and
00:58:19
Newman anymore or Bur Reynolds. I used
00:58:21
to love Charles Bronson, too.
00:58:23
>> Charles Bronson.
00:58:24
>> Oh, yeah. God, that guy was awesome.
00:58:27
>> In the modern era, who are you? Are you
00:58:30
a Christopher Nolan or or Tarantino or
00:58:33
both? Who's your favorite director? Or
00:58:36
do you like um who's the guy who did um
00:58:39
Sideways and Descendants?
00:58:42
>> Oh, Alex. Um
00:58:43
>> the director.
00:58:45
>> Yeah, Alex. Is it Alex?
00:58:47
>> No,
00:58:47
>> Alexander Payne. Alexander Payne.
00:58:49
>> Alex. It is Alex. Yeah.
00:58:51
>> Uh Nolan at his best. I'm a I'm a comic
00:58:54
book geek and so I love what he did.
00:58:58
>> Well, the reboot that first reboot with
00:59:00
Christopher Reale
00:59:02
for sure. Uh but when when Christopher
00:59:04
Nolan gets too plays with time too much,
00:59:07
it drives me crazy. I can't handle
00:59:09
>> I Well, that's I saw Dunkirk. I felt the
00:59:12
same way. I couldn't deal.
00:59:13
>> I liked it,
00:59:14
>> but but then I saw it a few years later.
00:59:17
there was a reissue and I I kind of knew
00:59:20
what was happening in terms of that. So
00:59:22
then I fell in love with the movie.
00:59:25
>> All those time jumps that you're not
00:59:27
sure.
00:59:27
>> There was Inception and then there was
00:59:29
Tenant, right?
00:59:30
>> Yeah.
00:59:31
>> Those get very Yeah, those are
00:59:34
>> they get meta on themselves to a point
00:59:36
where like you can't going on anymore.
00:59:39
>> Inception. I like Tenant was a
00:59:40
challenge, but I do like Once Upon a
00:59:43
Time in Hollywood a lot. Oh, I Tarantino
00:59:46
at his best is pretty. I loved Once Upon
00:59:49
and I had
00:59:50
>> I saw it 11 times.
00:59:52
>> Un I had no clue. I knew nothing about
00:59:56
it when I saw it.
00:59:58
>> Yeah.
00:59:58
>> And so I'm thinking, you know, this is
01:00:00
heading towards, you know, Sharon Tate
01:00:02
disaster.
01:00:04
>> And my mind was so blown by that like
01:00:07
>> alternate ending of like Yeah. I ju I
01:00:09
just what a great use of a movie star
01:00:11
like Brad Pitt to just like erase
01:00:14
history like that and and save the day.
01:00:17
>> I remember your white little face and
01:00:19
you were on a horsey. Are I'm as real as
01:00:23
a hot dog [ __ ] Yeah, I that whole movie
01:00:26
and you know Leo was so great in that
01:00:30
too. Let's face it. I'm a good goddamn
01:00:31
it has been. Don't cry in front of the
01:00:34
Mexicans.
01:00:36
>> He's incredible too. I always wanna
01:00:39
dislike Leo DiCaprio and then I I see
01:00:42
I'm like I gotta give it up. He's just
01:00:43
He's great. Not good. He's great.
01:00:46
>> He doesn't make sense. Goodlook. Has it
01:00:48
all then he's really
01:00:51
>> Yeah,
01:00:51
>> that's true. Anyway, well, we kept you a
01:00:54
little longer, but I I love talking
01:00:56
about movies and everything.
01:00:57
>> Me, too.
01:00:58
>> Feel feel good about yourself. I I read
01:01:00
that you would be would have been a
01:01:01
therapist, maybe if you
01:01:03
>> Oh, yeah. I was all set to go back to
01:01:04
grad school for psychology and then I've
01:01:06
got the Simpsons basically. So, and I
01:01:09
still have it. So,
01:01:11
>> that's that's that run what you've
01:01:13
talked about. It's just it's it's
01:01:15
incomprehensible that it's lasted this
01:01:17
long and stayed at this quality. And
01:01:19
you're the 89 all the way through.
01:01:22
>> It's extraordinary.
01:01:23
>> Yeah. I took I I took over the crown
01:01:25
from there was a ceremony last year
01:01:27
where I was dubbed luckiest man in show
01:01:29
business. that took the crown away from
01:01:31
Alan Thick who had preceded.
01:01:34
>> Really?
01:01:34
>> Yeah.
01:01:35
>> Alan Thick.
01:01:37
>> Uh well, that's uh Yeah. I don't know. I
01:01:39
Yeah, that that that whole thing. Yeah.
01:01:41
But you're brilliant at it. So, I mean,
01:01:44
it's it's not like they could take Let's
01:01:46
get an actor and have him do a funny
01:01:47
voice, you know? It's a lot.
01:01:48
>> Well, now AI can probably do it, but
01:01:50
that's a whole other story.
01:01:52
>> I know.
01:01:52
>> We have AI on after you.
01:01:55
>> I'm a digital copy of Dana Carby's right
01:01:58
now.
01:01:58
a joke, but could
01:02:01
>> you know the test? Put the hand in front
01:02:02
of the face. You ever heard that?
01:02:04
>> No.
01:02:05
>> They show them on Zooms, these people
01:02:06
that are fake interviewing for things.
01:02:08
>> Really?
01:02:09
>> They go, "Put your hands in front of
01:02:10
your face." And he goes, "Why would I
01:02:11
have to do that?" You go, "Just put your
01:02:13
hand in front of your face." And they
01:02:14
can't go like that. I don't know why.
01:02:16
>> Really? That's
01:02:16
>> And they talk about it. They won't do
01:02:18
it. And they go, "Thank you." That's
01:02:20
all. They can't do it. So that means
01:02:22
>> that's terrifying.
01:02:23
>> They don't want to show. That's weird.
01:02:26
Yeah,
01:02:26
>> they're finding these little glitches.
01:02:28
>> Yeah. Well, the soon they'll fix that,
01:02:30
too.
01:02:31
>> Yeah, that's a that's
01:02:33
>> This is still baby AI. This is infant
01:02:35
AI.
01:02:36
>> Yeah, just wait eight more months. It'll
01:02:38
be a mature.
01:02:39
>> Okay, not scare us. I'm scared.
01:02:40
>> No, it's really true. I don't I'm not sc
01:02:43
I think it's really cool. I read this
01:02:46
thing where like and the odds are better
01:02:48
than I thought. You know, the [ __ ] that
01:02:51
can go wrong is intense, of course.
01:02:53
>> And but there's only like a 20% chance
01:02:56
of that.
01:02:58
>> It's like 80% likely that it will all be
01:03:00
fine and just
01:03:01
>> Yeah. That's a little too high for me.
01:03:03
>> Yeah. I thought it was more coin flip.
01:03:06
>> Yeah.
01:03:06
>> Um
01:03:07
>> Well, when you think about like would
01:03:09
you get on a plane if I said, "Listen,
01:03:10
you got 80% chance of landing."
01:03:12
>> You're not going to Yeah.
01:03:13
>> Well, I get on a plane thinking I have a
01:03:15
1% chance. So, I mean, I'm not I don't
01:03:17
like flying. Where's all the fixing
01:03:19
cancer and everything? AI, come on now.
01:03:21
Let's go.
01:03:21
>> Well, they're gonna give us fusion
01:03:23
energy, unlimited clean energy, and
01:03:25
they're gonna cure all these diseases,
01:03:28
cancer and Parkinson's and all that.
01:03:29
Let's just hope it does that in the
01:03:31
first few weeks
01:03:33
>> when it doesn't see us as the disease.
01:03:36
>> Well, that every science fiction movie,
01:03:37
we had it in 2001. The AI turns on the
01:03:40
humans. Yeah. The only problem with the
01:03:42
earth are humans is we've seen it in,
01:03:45
you know, Isaac and all these science
01:03:47
fiction books and everything.
01:03:49
>> Yeah.
01:03:50
>> My son's named Hal, so I take it really
01:03:52
personal.
01:03:53
>> Ba based on how the computer No.
01:03:56
>> No, it's despite despite that, I just
01:03:58
like the name. I love Hal Ashby and
01:03:59
Halbrook.
01:04:01
>> Oh, okay. I like both.
01:04:03
>> We're looking for an age name. So
01:04:05
>> that's cool. Yeah. Hal.
01:04:07
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We're on video now. Fly on the Wall is
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presented by Odyssey, an executive
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produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade,
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Heather Santoro and Greg Holtzman,
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Mattie Sprung Kaiser, and Leah Reese
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Dennis of Odyssey. Our senior producer
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is Greg Holtzman, and the show is
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produced and edited by Phil Sweet Tech.
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Booking by Cultivated Entertainment.
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Special thanks to Patrick Fogerty, Evan
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Cox, Mora Curran, Melissa Wester,
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Hillary Schuff, Eric Donnelly, Colin
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Gainner, Sean Cherry, Kurt Courtourtney,
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and Lauren Vieiraa. Reach out with us
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any questions be asked and answered on
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the show. You can email us at fly
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onthewallsey.com.
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