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my agent forbade me from doing. >> Oh, really? >> This is where the question for you cuz
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like you don't want to do that. It's crazy over there. You're going to enter
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a situation that is crazy political and you're going to be like a lamb at the
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slaughter in there. I wanted to act not just cuz I enjoyed the voices like we were talking about earlier, but it was a
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deeper darker like I really wasn't too comfortable being myself. I preferred
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being other people. And so to get up and act, like Royy's whole thing was if you
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want to really act well on stage or film or TV, you have to be willing to expose
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yourself to like really be yourself in front of people, >> which I absolutely could not do. I
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couldn't do it. I showed my 16-year-old son the godfather for the first time. So
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I've been working on my veto profession. Oh >> god. >> It's good for disciplining a boy. His
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name's Howor. Come over here. Hankazeria. Hankazeria is in most things you see.
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>> He's in a lot of movies, lot of TV shows, and of course, >> he's the he's the full course, the full
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monty of 800 episodes of The Simpsons. He's in each and every one since 198.
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>> Very good. He did a show Brock Meyer that was very wellreceived. Um >> he's been in and out. I've seen him over
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the years. What a cool dude. And what a great time we had just blowing it up with him.
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>> Yeah, he's got a great ear and he's he just throws his voices out and it's uh
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from some of his characters. It's really fun fun to watch. >> Oh yeah, I did a lot of impressions.
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>> Yeah, impression impressions, too. We got We'll get into the old timey
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impressions. >> Oh yeah, that's right. >> I'll just say I'll say two words for you
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people who were born in the 50s. Boris Carlo. >> Oh, that's right. That's right.
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All right. Well, have a good time with them. You'll have some laughs. Hank Aeria.
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>> Hello. >> I got pitched a script once where >> it was I think it was a Japanese woman who was
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a uh thought that maybe I was her dad in the script. >> I like that. >> In the script.
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>> The script. I I She was seeking me and thought maybe I was her dad. I don't
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know. I have a story. We should roll because I have a story along. >> We're officially We're
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>> once I pop on. It's >> It's on. >> We were riveting. We had some pretty
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cool stuff going. >> I know. I'm like I don't I'm feel bad they're going to waste it,
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>> but I think we're still locked and loaded. Hank, >> hello, gentlemen. Um,
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>> thanks for coming on our show. We're really happy to see you. I I feel like
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you're a brother from another mother. Why are you apologizing? Did I apologize? I thought you said they
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interrupted you. >> Oh, no. It's a >> my brother from another mother because
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when I I hear you and I see you do these things and you inhabit them and I just totally relate to how much fun it is
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>> and that certain voices make you really happy, you know, more than other voices.
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>> Yes, I that's a tremendous compliment coming from you and uh yeah, I know you
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I've you know enjoyed your your voices a lot over the years. Thank you. >> Absolutely. Yeah. Incredible.
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>> What about this voice? >> That's a good voice. Well, that that
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leads me to a story. Do you remember David? We used to run into each other a lot back in the day and um
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>> you used to say to me something. >> You used to say to me, um, hey,
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you go, hey, could I do voices on the Simpsons? Listen, >> that's good.
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>> That's good. That's good. You need that. I By the way, what a dumb thing to say
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to the guy. Everyone's like, "Can I have that?" >> I don't think you really were.
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>> I think I was kidding. >> I think you were just having a little fun.
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>> Even though The Simpsons is still on. I don't know if you know this. Still on.
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>> I knew that. >> Right. >> And still funny. That's the hardest
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part. >> Yeah. The The writers do an amazing job. They really do. I don't know where they
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they they reach for some strange storylines these days, but you can't blame them after like 800.
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>> They have to. I think when Conan left, I think he was secretly hoping it would
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all collapse. >> That was the craziest thing like that he, you know, left to to host a late
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night talk show. I mean, he had never even done standup. >> I know. >> Yes. Yes,
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>> it was a pretty out out of the blue. Even though we knew him, we knew he was
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funny, but for Lauren and like who's it going to be and Conan and to have it
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work? >> Yeah. It was who was the head of NBC that just decided was it Warren
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Littlefield? I was very >> Littlefield. It wasn't Tartar Sauce. He was gone. Brandon Tarter Sauce.
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>> Brandon Tarter Sauce. Yeah, that I know. They they had >> that that was his birth name. They
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covered it up. fun fact. But um yeah, Conan and I were writing Hans and Fron's
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The Girly Man Dilemma, a movie, and they were considering me to do that job and I
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was completely conflicted, you know, at that time. And and then when Conan got it because I you hung out with them
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enough, it kind of made sense. And then, you know what I mean? >> Yeah. Yeah, I mean he was he was the
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only writer at the Simpsons that would like sort of work the room >> with the with the voice act like you
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know you knew Conan was hilarious >> whereas the other guys it was sort of a
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Harvard hasty putting you know almost MIT vibe to to the way they approach things
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>> kind of slightly tortured. Yeah. >> Yeah. Sort of on the spectrumy and uh
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you know uh but Conan was just hilarious. But remember do you guys know Jake Hogan? Remember, do you guys know
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Jay Cody, writer? >> Was he Was he on SNL for a while or there were a couple that came from SNL?
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George >> George Meyer. >> George Meyer. Yeah. Which Robert Smiggle used to say because George was very hard
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on the show itself. And I I was there my first year. And so he would kind of go around kind of as a joke and go show
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dying. Do you know that? >> That um that became famous. We knew that at the Simpsons.
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>> Oh, it metriculated over there. >> Yeah. I think there were another couple
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of SNL writers that came to the Simpsons and they sort of said that >> they busted George on that.
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>> Yeah. And we would we picked it up as sort of a catchphrase. Show dying.
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>> Farewell show. >> Conan get up and act out like the voices or does he just pitch ideas?
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>> He wouldn't do he's not a voice guy really, but no, he would just nei
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neither. He would just kind of break into comedy, you know, uh, while we were recording. He just would just be
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hilarious. >> Um, >> now it's wait, >> he would violently convulse. I mean,
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Conan would be standing in there and he's just doing and he's likely convuls.
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>> Yeah. It'd be like the guy's like, "What?" You know, it's like a sudden
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convulsion. >> Oh, he would snap his head a little bit like >> Yeah. Yeah. Uh, was it from SNL to the
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Simpsons or the other way around? I think Conan is SNL to the Simpsons for Conan because then I think he went
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straight from the Simpsons to his late night show >> the show. Oh, okay. >> Conan would do things like
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maybe when he do this at SNL he would just kind of yell out nonsequittors um >> Sure.
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>> in the writer room and then they would actually then he'd like it was like a game to turn it into an
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actual bit like he he would kept he kept saying jump. People was like what what are you
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saying? And he just would say and then that became like the name of Patty and Selma's pet lizard or something, you
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know? He just would like free associate, turn them into bits. >> Yeah. He'd grab me and go, "What do you
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think you're doing on the side of the show, dude?" Like, you know, everything
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was like bitsy stuff, you know? But it was funny because also I was new and he knew he could push me around.
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>> Did he Did he Was he >> Well, it's always 225. He could push a
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lot of people. >> 6123. >> He's just under 7 feet. 302. And >> well that brings me actually to a
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question I want to ask you guys if I can interview you. >> We love questions.
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>> See I I really do admire you both very much and I love SNL. You know I think I
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was 11 in 1975 when SNL premiered. >> Yes. >> Um yeah >> and it premiered very close to when PBS
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first aired Monty Python as well. They were like right next to each other. >> Yep. I remember that whole era. those
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two. Yeah. >> Yes. And it which totally blew my I couldn't believe adults could be that
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silly and smart and funny like gave me hope for the world literally those two shows.
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>> And uh so you know SNL to me it still has this like mythic it's it's the apex
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of comedy to me and you know always wanted a I never auditioned. I don't know why I never got myself together to
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do it. I think partly it's because I didn't start writing until much too late
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into my life, you know, to like figure it out. Um, and then I was dying to host like, um, I was supposed to host. I had
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this NBC show a long time ago and then the show got cancelled like right away, >> so they canceled it. And I was like, um,
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I was I I do these charity poker things sometimes and I was playing in a game at
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the table was like Brian Cranston and John Ham and Amy Schumer and Don Cheetel and I can't remember who else. and
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they're all talking about they're all trading stories about when they hosted
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SNL. And after about 10 minutes, I went, "Yeah, I uh I think I'm the only one
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here that that's never hosted the show." And so then for the rest of the game,
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every time I lost a hand, it was maybe if you'd hosted that hand might have gone better for you.
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>> Um but but then there was a time when that was >> that was John Ham, right?
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>> That was Ham. >> Yeah, because that's his sense of humor, you know.
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>> Everybody everybody happily joined in on it. Um, but then there was a time when I
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was like in my mid30s. I was like, you know what? I want to like go back. I'm
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gonna audition. I'm just gonna get my [ __ ] together. I know I'm old, >> but I'm going to just get my [ __ ]
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together and audition. And my agent forbade me from doing it. >> Oh, really?
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>> This is where the question for you because like >> you don't want to do that. It's crazy
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over there. You're going to enter a situation that is crazy political and you're going to be like a lamb at the
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slaughter in there. And >> you know, was that around the Chris Elliot years? Janine Gar. I wonder when
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it would be because >> would it be 95? >> Would it be the rep of like
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>> I might have it was like 20201 2002 in there. >> Okay. So Will Ferrell had arrived and
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was about to exit, I guess. >> Well, was it as hard as all that? You do hear stories about how it could be
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really rough. >> Yeah, I would just say it all depends. I mean, I think if uh your skill set seems
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perfectly adapted for it. So, uh it's kind of like it's still based on characters, reoccurring characters,
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voices, you know. So, I don't know. It would I it'd be very interesting to see
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you host it. I I put you on the cast now. I mean, you know, there is no >> that's what this is about for me. If you
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can make a couple of calls, I would highly appreciate it. >> Cast would be fun for you. Hosting would
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be fun also. But >> Lauren, what are you Lauren? What are you doing? Oh, I'm just looking at the
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list of um show folk that the ones that got away. Uh Hank Aeria never uh just really
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really like really wanted him, but his agent didn't want him down. >> [ __ ] blocked me.
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because I thought that I couldn't find it because I was looking around, you know, Hank's area host SNL. I thought,
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you know, there's something had to have been there. >> Was there whispers? Was there a point
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where you go, this is the time I probably would have? >> It was that I had this NBC show.
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>> Okay. >> And I was all over it. I'm like, okay, I'm on NBC show, so this is a natural
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>> network. Mhm. >> So, and they did they had set it up and then it got cancelled. Like it was one
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of those we made seven, they aired two and goodbye was >> [ __ ] I did an animated show for NBC and
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they said Dana's buddy Brad Gay made a deal to put on NBC and I'm like this is
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about a deadbeat dad. It's not like a family show. It's a cartoon. It's weird.
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I said maybe it's more for HBO. And they're like he goes no I got a deal
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with NBC. We'll do it. So it like helped him in a weird way. Meanwhile, NBC was
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like, "This isn't really a family show." They called me ahead of time. It's
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airing in July. We're going to air two episodes back toback and cancel it. I
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was like, "That that >> what if it kills it?" They're like, "It
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won't." Anyway, so two and out. I was like, >> "Oh my god, >> I've had two of those. Two of those
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almost exactly." >> Everything I ever did failed. Everything I ever did failed except the except
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Wayne's World. Every pilot, every series, everything. I'm just I don't
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want to I I'm just sort of curious. Was there potentially any conflict of interest with this person that SAID,
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"OH, YOU DON'T WANT TO do SNL? Are you crazy?" >> No, I think he was being genuine.
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>> He felt I regret it. I think he felt like it would have been a step back in
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my career, you know, and I disagree. I should have had more balls instead. >> Well, Phil Phil Hartman, the late our
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awesome friend, >> you would have been like a Phil. he was 38 and didn't even mean a thing because
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we're always a lot of times even today's cast they're like you know Marcelo's 28
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and he's playing somebody who's 60 you know what I mean it's usually you're
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aging up but Phil was just perfect you know >> used to be they'd go we need a dad type
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we need a younger but now every >> game show host dad uh straight man to the host also and
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also can do all these other things you ask him to do you know So >> yeah, >> I don't want you have any regrets though
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because you had you've had are having such an amazing career in my mind. >> It's too it's too late. I I have the
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regrets. I think I think if I wrote more at the I would have just done I would have said screw you. I'm just going to
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put together something and do it even just for fun, you know. >> Would you hate it if you auditioned and
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didn't get it? >> Well, I mean I'm used to Aren't we all used to that at this point? Yeah.
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Actually, you never think you're going to get >> No, if you never audition, you never
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get, you know, you never lose, >> right? You just do it and you walk away and and they call and you go, "What's
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this about? >> Didn't you have an audition today?" And I go, "Oh, I already wrote it off as
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it's not happening." And they're like, "No, it's happening." I'm like, "Oh,
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wait. Let me look. What was it again?" >> So, no, I'm the opposite. I'm like all
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over it to a point where I have to calm down. When I started, I was like I when I was in acting class, obviously I
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didn't finish all of them, but uh the uh >> Was I in class with you for a while?
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>> Was I was that Ivana? >> Yes. >> And Roy London. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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>> I think that's where you said the Simpsons thing. >> Maybe that's because Roy London. I
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actually >> I didn't get Roy London, Hank. I got passed down. >> Roy London. JV Roy London because Brad
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uh was a Brad Pitt was with our management and they said go to and Shanley went to Roy London watched like
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he was the best and I go this would be great and they go great you're going to
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go over here in this room and this is the spillover room and it was Ivana >> well in fairness everybody started that
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way David you had >> start with Roy >> you like yeah you had to do like the
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farm system and then they would bring you up >> I I stayed in TripleA but actually Ivana
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was good I liked She was great. Yeah. >> Yeah. And she got me >> to do better. Yeah. I agree.
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>> So Roy London, how would you describe his because what I met him a few times
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and his philosophy of of acting was so unique, I thought. And I don't know if
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you how will you describe it? I'd have a way to describe it, but I want to hear
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you. Well, well, I was in there for I really needed him badly because I was in there for like three years
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>> and >> I I I went because I was already on The Simpsons and had done a few things.
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>> Um, and Roy like sized me up right away once I got out of Ivana >> and said, "Okay, you're not allowed to
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do any voices or even be particularly funny in here." >> Oh. >> You're just going to be yourself.
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>> And I was like, "Oh, that's terrible." Yeah. What's that? It's terrible.
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>> Well, I didn't even real I re I realized that I, you know, I'm I'm a mimic at at
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heart. That's really the basis of everything for me. And I wanted to act not just because I enjoyed the voices
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like we were talking about earlier, but it was a deeper, darker like I really wasn't too comfortable being myself. I
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preferred being other people. And so to get up and act, like Royy's whole thing
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was if you want to really act well on stage or film or TV, you have to be willing to expose yourself to like
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really be yourself in front of people, >> which I absolutely could not do. I
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couldn't do it. >> And neither could Peter Sers. >> Yes, it's true. Imposter syndrome. Yes,
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there's certain Do you I mean, you know, Dana, are you like that at all? Like, do
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you >> Yeah, I was cast in things. I had a teen face for about three weeks. So, I was
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cast in things uh as the straight man playing myself and I was just absolutely awful. But the lines were like when I
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did a sitcom with Mickey Rooney and Nathan Lane in New York, I was the straight man. And the first day at the
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readrough, Mickey pointed at me and said, "You're the straight man." You
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know, I'd been doing standup and everything. You hear me? Bang. >> The straight.
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>> Give him no jokes. So I would just my question I would ask questions. I was
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just the guy going, "What are you doing? When's he coming home?" This and that. I
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And I sucked. I was terrible. But yeah, it's fun to do a character. I think a
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lot of people like Roblo said he would love to be in prosthetics and playing a character more than anything else.
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>> He's more a version of himself. Yeah. It's the opposite. I mean, you could
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you're so versatile that you could do, but you've done a lot of things where
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you're acting as a as yourself, using yourself. >> Thanks to Roy, I mean, I I did have a
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breakthrough in there one day. Um, >> what happened? >> What happened? What was the
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breakthrough? you know, he finally like I was there for like three years and he started everybody in that class would
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have their turn maybe two three times a year where you were sort of the focus >> you know uh it wouldn't be like you'd
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spend they spend he'd spend the whole three by the way I was in class when Brad Pitt had his breakthrough that was
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an unbelievable thing to see >> oh it was like one day one class >> he didn't come much but yeah he was like
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sort of having a little trouble and then Roy just kind of said this or that and all of a sudden you saw Brad Pitt that
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appear before your eyes. Same I saw Sharon Stone have a similar breakthrough in that class.
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>> Wow. >> Uh Sharon Stone was almost the point where she was in there for months and
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you you know you that person in class you want to kind of pull him aside and say maybe you shouldn't do this because
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I don't know that you're getting the hang of this. >> It's not getting better. Yeah.
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>> She was like in my opinion she was kind of one of those people. And then one day
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she just like had this breakthrough and she was unbelievable um in this scene and like ever after she
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was incredible. But Roy, so I'm up there in front of Roy and I'm doing we're
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doing a scene from a play a Lanford Wilson play called Burn This >> Malovich actually the aforementioned
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made made famous on Broadway >> and um doing the scene and he goes there right there. I do a line he go what
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happened? you're going along fine and then it's like you jump out of your body
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like what happens to you? I was like to be honest I hear myself give like a tiny
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line reading. I think in my mind I was trying to do like my version of how I imagined Malovich would do the scene
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because that's my stickick, you know? Not like I was imitating him, but >> it's still not exactly genuine, right?
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>> That's how Nicholas Cage works, you know. >> Is that right? So I didn't like that. He
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just says in this next scene, I'm going to do Daniel D Lewis. I go, really? And
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so it's kind of a wide shot with a woman. He comes in, he drops to his knees. He's going to do Daniel D. Lewis
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from the name of the father. And he doesn't tell the director or anybody. He
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just comes in, drop to HIS KNEES. WHY? WHY? WHY? TOTAL COMMITMENT, you know. Yeah. So that's how he does it. He just
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thinks acting should be should be an art form rather than just realism, you know.
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>> Well, I'm kind of with him on that. like I'll you can do that to play around or
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try a thing or a weird take or >> you know sometimes just having another actor in mind,
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>> you know, Woody Allen used to say that he thought he was doing such a direct
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Bob Hope impression that people going to bust him on it. >> Yeah. >> You know, but Bob Hope in his mind
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through a Woody Allen filter is quite a unique thing. I didn't even I I get the
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connection. But I know that Woody was it was different. But it was this this kind
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of >> pause, you know, right before because I Why aren't we quietly humping, you know,
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>> it's it's and Bob Hope is like, "Yes, I got to go." He's sort of scared.
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>> The nervous coward character. >> Yeah. And and halting speech before the
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fear comes out. It's just the fact that I'm terrified might get in the way, you
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know, all that stuff. >> Exactly. I have a good Woody Allen story too that I could tell you. But so
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anyway, Roy said, >> please >> uh he gave this amazing thing. He said,
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so I I heard myself give a bad line reading and I like froze and I basically wanted to quit acting in that moment,
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let alone the scene. And Roy tells me this story. He goes, "Look, when I was
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like 15 years old, this is Roy talking. I'm at the my my I love my dad very much
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and I was having lunch with my mother at our country club and I see my dad coming
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into the 18th hole in the golf green and he's finishing his round at golf and he
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we me and my mom see him grab his heart and fall to the ground on the 18th green
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and by the time we got to him he was gone. He was wow he was dead. >> And he said, now that was 35 years ago
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when he told the story. He said, "Sometimes when I tell that story, >> I'm filled with emotion as if it just
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happened, you know, and sometimes I'm just reporting a thing that was really
00:24:03
painful for me, but um I don't have much emotional connection to it because it's
00:24:09
been a long time." And he said, he said to me, "That's what acting is." He said,
00:24:14
"You're not some takes or some nights on stage, you're going to really feel it
00:24:18
and just be in there." And he said, "In some nights, you're not." He said, "But
00:24:23
instead of like listening to yourself be in it or not, if you just," he said,
00:24:28
"Sometimes when I every time that I tell that story though to somebody, they
00:24:33
understand how devastating it was for me, whether I'm filled with emotion or
00:24:36
not." He said, "As an actor, if you don't feel it, just make sure your scene
00:24:40
partner gets where you're coming from." And it's a way to completely relock back
00:24:44
into the scene. It's okay to report on life as an actor on stage, too. And after that, I was to totally freed up to
00:24:52
like, >> you know, even when I felt like I sucked, I felt like I could still stay
00:24:56
in the scene and make something that worked. >> Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. It's good. You
00:25:00
picked up a lot and it really really helped. >> Oh, I I I couldn't I couldn't do I
00:25:06
couldn't have done anything really. It it made all my Simpsons characters funnier because I felt like I
00:25:12
>> like instead of Jeff just doing Chief Wiggum, which was such a fun voice, this
00:25:16
is just my impression of Mel Blank's impression of Edward G. Robinson, you know, and
00:25:23
>> Wigum and but then all of a sudden I was like, well, what if I really were a cop?
00:25:27
how would I really hand I felt like I could put myself more into these even stupid characters and it made things
00:25:34
funnier and and better which was something I think you do naturally uh Dana in in these voices did you ever
00:25:42
have to like feel like you had to step up the acting or once you got the voice you just clicked in?
00:25:46
>> Um kind of depends on the character. I mean I think uh for me like with George
00:25:52
B senior I was just trying to learn it with the audience. I didn't have a very
00:25:56
good one when I first was assigned it because my character won the election and so I was very, you know, and then as
00:26:03
I went further, I was more playful with it because I was in a oneshot and the studio was quiet. There wasn't any
00:26:10
editing where I met throw anyone else off. So I said that area that thing and then I would start taking it and then it
00:26:17
became it literally became probably two years before we're not going to do it
00:26:22
before I he left it was like nah got to do it and it it worked because the audience was coming with me but if I
00:26:31
when I was doing Jimmy Stewart in it's a Wonderful Life parody I was just trying
00:26:35
to be a really good uh Jimmy Stewart actor completely channeling him as much as I
00:26:43
And and sometimes you just feel it when you're doing a character. You feel their
00:26:48
their s earnestness is in Jimmy Stewart's thing. Everything is just sincere, you know, at least in It's a
00:26:56
Wonderful Life. >> Every everything is just sincere. Well, we have Hank Aera on here. So, and a lot
00:27:03
of people are saying a lot of nice things about him. So, I don't I don't
00:27:06
know. I mean, do you ever do like just Why don't you you do a special uh with
00:27:13
where you do sketches? >> I get I did I I've written a oneman show. I've actually become one of those
00:27:19
people. And uh >> yeah, >> well that's kind of close what he's
00:27:23
saying anyway. That's not bad. >> And um >> actually it's pretty kind it kind of
00:27:29
talks about what I just told you about that acting class thing. And I go into a lot of uh kind of, you know, as one man
00:27:35
shows will sort of darker things about um how it was like things that were funny weren't so funny.
00:27:42
>> Um and how it was equally my desire to be anybody else but myself that drove me
00:27:49
uh to do characters and voices. >> Yeah. >> You know, >> uh >> so yeah, I did that. I hopefully put
00:27:56
that up in New York uh this year. >> Let's put it up. >> Oh, really?
00:28:01
Yeah. >> What's the Do you want to give us the title of it or >> Hank?
00:28:04
>> I I think it's called Listen, never mind, which is what my mother used to
00:28:08
say to me all the time. Listen, never mind. >> She say, "Listen, never mind."
00:28:13
>> Yes. >> That's funny. That's >> Well, she was the most dismissive person
00:28:16
I ever knew. >> I'm dismissive. >> And she had a dismissive catchphrase,
00:28:20
which was, "Listen, never mind. >> Oh, never mind. It's not worth it, isn't
00:28:24
it?" >> Well, it was like, "Uh, mom, I'm really hungry. Listen, never mind. There's
00:28:27
people starving." But they also didn't make any sense. Like, mama, I think I
00:28:32
might have twisted my ankle. Listen, never mind. It's almost Yam Kapora, which doesn't make any sense. But
00:28:38
>> I like young people are starving. You're like, do I have to join them?
00:28:42
>> Can can I eat? And then they're still starving. >> Exactly. You're going to play a lot of
00:28:46
different characters in the play or >> Yeah. Well, it's it's it's really like a
00:28:50
life story. It's like a lot of the origins of the voices. this was that guy and that was that person and
00:28:56
>> and you know stuff like >> I was I you know I do a young young Alpuccino impression you know Godfather
00:29:03
Al >> I'm dying here everybody's coming down on me here that >> love it
00:29:10
>> I was doing a play in West Hollywood when I got the Simpsons audition I was
00:29:16
playing a drug dealer doing that voice so I auditioned for Mo the bartender with this voice and they want they said
00:29:25
can you make it grally we like the and so to me grally is Bruce Springsteen which I've been imitating since I was 15
00:29:33
years old that's fantastic >> if you if you take young alino one end >> and Bruce Springsteen in the other and
00:29:41
you mix them right in the middle there that's motor bartender he's a mash up
00:29:45
there >> so it's a lot of that kind of relaying little origins of voices like that love
00:29:52
that stuff. >> The kids do enjoy that. >> I in the early days of of when Trump
00:29:59
came out, I was on some talk show and I said it's really it's Regis Filman and
00:30:04
Brando coming together, you know. Anyway, you ready for this? And then I got to you know, I mean, you can see how
00:30:14
those two together. >> I showed my 16-year-old son the Godfather for the first time. So, I've
00:30:20
been working on my veto caron impression. >> Oh, good. >> It's good for disciplining your boy. His
00:30:26
name's How's Helvator? Come over here. >> Me and Dana were just talking about
00:30:32
Brando in the field at the end when he like the kids playing >> when he dies
00:30:39
>> with the teeth and you're like, we were just saying I don't even know if they knew what they
00:30:44
were doing. That tay Copel is like do whatever you want on this one, you know. And when you
00:30:51
>> in your mind, is Brando the greatest film actor or or you have another favorite?
00:30:58
>> Good one. >> Well, he was so all over the place. You know, there were some that were just
00:31:04
baffling. I mean, Veto Corleone is definitely one of the best ever, and he was to me like in Street Car and and On
00:31:12
the Waterfront, he was way ahead of his time. Um, so was Jimmy Stewart actually in my opinion like his performance in
00:31:19
It's a Wonderful Life was >> breathtakingly realistic in an era when they all sounded like
00:31:26
this. They all sounded like, you know, >> Oh, that's right. Yeah. >> Oh, and the darkness before his nervous
00:31:31
breakdown with the with you was saying, "Why do I have to have all these kids?"
00:31:36
I mean, the movie is way heavier than people think. And the theme of the movie is so evergreen. I mean, just
00:31:43
>> it was a flop, too. No, it was so ahead of its time. Nobody liked it when it
00:31:47
came out. >> Capricorn, they called it. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah.
00:31:51
>> What? It's a Wonderful Life you're talking about. >> Yeah. Yeah. Bombed basically. It wasn't
00:31:56
>> Yeah. Just get it out of here. >> Then they sold the movie out of my
00:32:00
theater. >> I think it only really had its life by the time it became public domain. I
00:32:05
think >> TVs or >> where everyone could just see it. I think they Yeah, they're burning it off
00:32:09
at Christmas or something. I maybe I heard this too. And then everyone got into it.
00:32:14
>> Yeah. >> You know, the Grinch never worked again after that one. >> All right. Whatever.
00:32:20
>> Oh, the Boff Grin. >> No, just the Grinch. >> Just the Grinch him. There have been a
00:32:25
lot of Grinches. Let's face it. >> I do a bit laid. >> I like those old timey actors as Bill
00:32:30
her calls him. Um, but I do a bit about the world's first sociopath. Did people
00:32:37
know they had mental problems in ancient times? And I I'm just using Peter Lori
00:32:42
and no one has busted me on it, you know, like just just like where's where's that Steve? I don't know what's
00:32:50
that hand coming out of the ground. It's Steve. I killed him. Am I weird? I don't
00:32:56
know. But you got to stop that. So anyway, it's just you can use those characters and no one really reme
00:33:06
I was still a movie. are now at the museum tour. >> Oh yeah, where you were evil shadow that
00:33:14
was as a joke. I just went should I do Bord calloff? He was the original mummy >> and Ben cracked up and said no you have
00:33:21
to do that >> like really. >> Um >> so yeah and yes Peter Lori you can use
00:33:28
for sure. >> Professor Frank is just uh was just a nutty professor. Uh the Jerry Lewis
00:33:35
version of course. Yeah, they're so old that nobody they think they're original
00:33:38
voices. Nobody recognizes. >> I know. That's that's a really great use
00:33:42
of your your gift. >> Lou the cop is Stallone. Is that what you said? >> Yeah. Lou the cop would
00:33:50
a bad Stallone, you know, and a little toned down Stallone. Yeah. >> Yeah. Very nasely there. When I you when
00:33:57
you do people like that like Boris Caroff is it kind of informed like what was in that guy's brain that somehow he
00:34:04
decided to talk like that because it's almost feminine or and bizarre >> wings back then
00:34:09
>> like what is where is who is that person that's talking I mean >> I think that's just the way he talked. I
00:34:17
really do very compelling. >> A lot of those guys had very distinct I mean they were Lori and Carlo I'm big
00:34:25
fans of both them. They were unbelievable actor. They were just Oh, yeah. Talk about,
00:34:29
>> you know, free to be themselves on camera. They were just like and they
00:34:33
they brought a lot of, you know, reality and grit to these weird oldfashioned things.
00:34:39
>> Yeah. I mean, there's it's it it's sort of I don't know if it's a trope at this
00:34:44
point, but doing for young Impressionists doing modern movie stars, I I just make a joke that I I do a
00:34:51
Timothy Shalom, but I just go, "What's up, man?" And you know, I'm not with him
00:34:54
at all, but uh there was a cavalcade, you know, between John Wayne and Kirk Douglas and all of those old movie
00:35:01
stars. They just had really weird voices. Who do we have? We do. We have the same amount of
00:35:08
>> Who's today that's got a very interesting >> Who's Carrie Grant? Well, who's the guy
00:35:13
who talks like this? >> We don't have one. We don't >> Carrie Grant was great with that. Well,
00:35:18
I don't do in my I used to do uh Eric Roberts. >> Oh, yeah. That's a good one.
00:35:25
>> [ __ ] Greenwich Village, man. >> They cut off [ __ ] dumb. >> I used to do uh Mickey Rock, too. I used
00:35:39
to like to do >> Oh, really? I know what you're doing. Counselor, but don't do it. It's from
00:35:43
Body Heat. >> Yeah, Body Heat. >> Body Heat. You know, Paul Greenwich for
00:35:47
Diner. Great movies. >> Yeah, let me do it. I do it for you for your counselor. And then this thing he
00:35:54
kept using in all his movies, right? >> But now Mickey sounds like Why do all
00:35:59
the Why do old actors end up sounding like this? What is this? You know, like Pacino was like this, you know, and now
00:36:07
Al sounds like this. What is that? >> Maybe they're projecting a fainter voice
00:36:12
or something. I have a theory that that as the testosterone goes down and they're older gentlemen, they make their
00:36:18
voice super alpha. You know, >> hey, I'm 97. How are you doing? You know, it's like I
00:36:29
guess that's great ass. >> Exactly. I I hope it doesn't happen to me. That's all I
00:36:35
>> Here's another thing I want to ask you about. Does it seem like most actors get more theatrical movie
00:36:42
stars like Alpacino which I I love Scarface? I'm possessed by it actually as a as an oporadic movie
00:36:50
man you know all that stuff. Um, and then Christopher Walkin also, if you see him in the Woody Allen movie and where
00:36:57
he kind of made a character out of him, but those are sort of recent times big big time big voice actors
00:37:06
>> theories. >> I don't know. Do they I mean Daniel um Jeff Goldblum sort of similar.
00:37:11
>> Yeah, some of them do. I mean, some of them get more subtle. >> Oh, you asked me. I mean, Daniel D.
00:37:16
Lewis is amazing. I personally think Robert Downey Jr. is maybe the American genius of our time. I mean, I know he's
00:37:23
Iron Man and everything and that's what we think of him as now, but >> I don't
00:37:27
>> there's nothing the guy can't do really. >> Yeah, he's he's he's freaky good. Freaky
00:37:32
good. >> Um, but yeah, Chris Wong, I don't know. He's amazing. Like some of these guys
00:37:38
just real Shatner, they realize that they're sort of bigger than life and they lean into it. Like Nicholson sort
00:37:44
of did the same thing later in his career. Once people pick up on it, they almost turn into that more. They turn
00:37:50
into the impression more. >> Yeah. >> Well, the rhythm of what Christopher
00:37:54
Walkan did is just so effective. I don't know. Waiting for the wood. I mean, it's like it's a brilliant song. I
00:38:04
I look at him as musically just brilliant. >> He talks in haikus, >> which he is gifted that way. He comes
00:38:11
from musical theater. I really wonder I worked with him once. I wanted to ask him, but I never got up the nerve. I'm
00:38:17
like, do you plan this [ __ ] or is it just what comes out? You know what I mean?
00:38:22
>> Yeah. >> Or does everyone expect this is how we're hiring you? We want you to sound
00:38:29
like this because it's so >> But was he improvising, you mean, or just doing the rhythm of that voice in
00:38:35
such a >> He would I mean, I didn't work with him much. Uh, but he No, he was he pretty
00:38:40
much stuck to the script and >> yeah, >> it was kind of a little different each
00:38:44
time. But it just that delivery I I just I wondered uh if he planned it on Although did you see him in Severance?
00:38:52
>> Yes. Yeah. It was very small. >> Very small. >> Yeah. He can do whatever he wants.
00:38:58
>> Yeah. >> I love him. >> I did I was he was in Wayne's World 2
00:39:02
and that was kind of a thrill at the time. I'm dressed as G and then he would
00:39:06
come up and his first line was Gar and the way he would say it was so like he was going to kill me. Goth
00:39:14
long long pause, you know. So I I decided to do Luc Costello and then Mike and I both went,
00:39:23
you know, one of the >> that thing of fear. But Goth is like a Yeah, it's got three syllables
00:39:32
>> that kills me. Whenever I run into him, >> if I run into him, he says he sounds
00:39:38
like him to me in the brief times like that. It's not like only when he's on
00:39:45
camera. He he was asking me if I ever worked with an actor dog and um >> Oh yeah,
00:39:52
>> remember he caught me off guard. But but he was doing pauses. It was an odd
00:39:58
question and then he continued to ask questions and I was like this is great and I wish this was shot. Everything
00:40:06
he's saying is funny. >> He does he is really he does have that rhythm in real life.
00:40:12
>> Yeah. >> He asked you did you ever work with an actor dog? Is that what he was a lot of
00:40:17
stuff? We were waiting for a scene and we're in the dark >> and there's about four characters in
00:40:22
there waiting for action and they're like holding and uh there's a pause and he's in the
00:40:28
dark and then he goes, "David, I can't really do him." He goes, "Hey, did you
00:40:34
ever work with an act dog?" And I go, "Uh, weird." >> I go, "I have there is
00:40:40
>> that's the funniest part." I go, "There is one in this movie some other scenes."
00:40:45
>> And he goes, he goes, "They're good. They they really they know what to do.
00:40:49
They're well trained. I go, "Yeah." And then he paused and he goes, "Hey, have
00:40:55
you ever worked with an act cat?" And I go, "An actor cat?" I go, "No, I don't."
00:41:00
I mean, then we're all kind of giggling going, "Is he serious?" I go, "I don't I
00:41:05
don't think so." Because he goes he goes, "They're no good because you tell
00:41:09
them what to do and they don't do it. But if you yell or something to an act
00:41:14
catat, they jump." But that's that's every cat would do that. >> He'll go into the details
00:41:18
>> and I go, "Yeah." And then he goes, "Ever work with an at the mouse."
00:41:23
>> No. >> And I go, "I don't think there are that many." And he goes, "He's making it up
00:41:27
at >> there." I did mouse trap. Remember mouse trap? >> Oh, yeah. Nathan Lane was
00:41:34
uh >> who was the other guy in that? >> It wasn't Broadick, was it?
00:41:39
>> Matthew Broadick. No. So he goes, "You tell a mouse >> to go up, take a beat, and go to the
00:41:46
right, and they do it. They're smart." He thinks they're smarter than cats,
00:41:51
which they maybe are. And then once he's getting into how smart the actor mouses
00:41:56
are, then they go rolling. And then we never never came up again. >> Did you ever work with Anthony Hopkins?
00:42:03
He's another character. I never did, >> but I know people um who uh collect
00:42:10
Nathan Lane stories. It was Lee Evans, by the way. That's >> Oh, yeah. Mouse Hunt with Nathan Lane.
00:42:18
>> Mouse Trap. Yeah, Mouse. >> Uh >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> I just forgot. What did you say?
00:42:23
>> Nathan Lane stories. Oh, I just Anthony Hopkins is also >> No, never. Oh, he's on Yeah, he's got to
00:42:29
go up there. read reads the script 200 times, does no research, nothing. Reads it, he said 200 times. He has the entire
00:42:37
script memorized. He had a Polaroid, this is in the early 90s, of his character, and he take it out of his
00:42:43
pocket. It was kind of crumpled up Polaroid shot of himself and they're going speed. And he would just put it up
00:42:48
against his face, look at it, and then put it on his face and go and then put it back in. And then he
00:42:56
would be the character. So he's got his own way of doing >> that's like Hannibal Lectctor like
00:43:00
>> I know there was a little bit of uh that Dennis Hopper movie. What was that?
00:43:05
>> Blue sniffing this [ __ ] >> Yeah. >> Um >> yeah there's people who collect Chris
00:43:12
Walkan stories you know. >> Yeah. >> Like you know that actor Titus Welliver
00:43:17
>> uh Titus played that great detective series um >> sounds like a fake
00:43:22
>> in the books. Mhm. >> Uh anyway, he does an unbelievably good walking impression and uh apparently
00:43:29
like when he and Grace Jones were shooting that Bond movie where they played like villains together, you know,
00:43:34
he had like Grace Jones had like blonde hair and >> Yeah. They're shooting uh like in the
00:43:40
Swiss Alps or something and he and Grace Jones walked into some, you know, local
00:43:47
little tavern or whatever. And you can imagine and he had like white hair, I think, and she had
00:43:53
>> and uh so the locals all kind of turned around and stared at them, >> as you might imagine.
00:43:59
>> And apparently Chris Walkan broke the ice with cold slaw for everyone. Oh, there's no story you could you could
00:44:09
say where you'd have to say which one is real and which one is a fake walking
00:44:13
story. >> No, it's Yeah. >> indistinguishable. >> Also, I think Titus happened to him
00:44:19
person. He was doing some film with him and it was their day off. No, this is I got this from the person though. This
00:44:25
wasn't like a secondhand story and they're shooting somewhere and it's the
00:44:29
day off and Chris is uh they're walking somewhere and Chris is like waiting. He's in the river like
00:44:38
he's in a creek or something. He's just standing in water, you know, like a a
00:44:43
pool or I don't know where he was, but it was odd. And they said, "Hey, Chris,
00:44:49
are are you okay?" Because he was just standing in there. >> Yeah. >> And he apparently went, "Today I am an
00:44:58
alligator." >> Today I am an alligator. >> Yeah. All right, we're back in five.
00:45:06
I was hanging out with him for this photo shoot in New York. He just ended up on a couch with him for like an hour
00:45:13
and he was just interesting. He saw my phone. Don't have a phone. No, >> you know. Well,
00:45:19
>> do you have TV? Don't watch it. No. >> You don't watch TV. I mean, what do you
00:45:26
what do you do? What do you do at night? He goes, "Magazines. Magazines. Every night you read like
00:45:36
And then I asked him, "Do you paint?" And he goes, "Of course I paint. All old
00:45:40
actors paint." >> That's funny. Some of the probably the most uncomfortable moments of my life have
00:45:49
been spent like that. Like in between takes with legendary actors or >> you just run out of small talk after
00:45:57
like two or three days and then you know like Jean Hackman for example. >> Oh wow. What a
00:46:02
>> Oh, is that a bird cage? Yeah. Oh, that's right. Birdman. >> That incredible move. Perfect movie. You
00:46:09
were great in that. >> Thank you very much. Mike Nichols is amazing. But yeah, Gene Hackman
00:46:15
um you know, he just doesn't suffer fools really, which you turn into around I get very like wound up around
00:46:24
>> Oh, yeah. >> people I admire, you know. >> I He's intimidating. Go ahead.
00:46:29
>> He's a big He's one of my favorites. >> He is amazing and he was very nice. And
00:46:33
then but he just doesn't once the small talk was done he just didn't feel the
00:46:37
need to >> you know but you know I like how you're like you just said with Chris what
00:46:41
you're but you're there together for many minutes like waiting for action or
00:46:45
whatever you're doing. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> By the way this is a world of no phones
00:46:49
so it's not like people go back to their phones. It's like sitting in silence
00:46:53
>> and sometimes you just got to let them just sit there. Well, you're just
00:46:57
thinking what could you say to Jean Hackman at that moment in time that he would sit up and go, "Yeah." and start
00:47:06
you like like turn him on basically like get him really excited. >> I did a movie called The Ultimate of
00:47:11
This. I did a movie called Mystery Alaska. It was this hockey movie. >> Hockey and uh uh Bert Reynolds was in
00:47:18
it. Okay. Okay. And I had this one scene with Bert >> and >> Bert Reynolds uh absolutely had like an
00:47:26
oldfashioned movie star freakout meltdown >> like just screaming at the top of his
00:47:34
lung. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Why? Or just tell the story. >> He uh Oh my
00:47:41
>> It was Oh, it was the weekend he was nominated for Boogie Nights. Okay.
00:47:46
>> Oh, Boogie Nights. Yeah. shooting in the in the Canadian Rockies near Calgary in
00:47:53
like the middle of the middle of nowhere and we had to get shoot him out so that he'd get back to
00:47:59
LA and do press, you know, for the Oscars that >> Yeah. >> And so, uh, we rehearse, uh, the scene a
00:48:07
little bit and, uh, Bird also had one of those old actor voices at that point. He
00:48:14
says to the director, which was uh Jay Roach, >> oh, Austin Powers. Yeah. >> Yes. If you like, I can uh stand up on
00:48:21
this line. >> Jay says, "Yeah, maybe." So, I just might save your shot cuz because that
00:48:29
[ __ ] over there said it's GOING TO BE A LONG [ __ ] NIGHT. IT'S POINTING AT A
00:48:34
producer who I guess it said it's going to be a long night. >> Oh, because Oh, because Bert just made a
00:48:38
suggestion kind of. No, >> I think just cuz we were night shooting and I guess Bert was feeling codependent
00:48:44
because we had to shoot him out by midnight >> to get on a helicopter to go to the
00:48:48
Oscars. >> Yeah. >> And he he literally he like flipped out on the guy. Just absolutely flipped up.
00:48:54
Bert's a scary >> That was pretty intense what you just did. >> Sorry. I didn't mean to scare you.
00:48:58
>> No, no. I mean, use that the next time you're in a movie. I go, "Oh, well, do
00:49:02
what you did on Flying the Wall." >> Well, thanks to Roy London. I I didn't
00:49:04
commit. I can relay it. Yes, it was terrifying. But the point is he flips out. We calm them down and we're
00:49:11
waiting. They're setting up the lights and we couldn't go anywhere because
00:49:14
we're it was a snowstorm and we're in the set and all of us were together, the
00:49:18
crew and the cast, the producers, everyone. And I sat there for 20 minutes and Bert sits next to me because we're
00:49:23
waiting to shoot and I racked my brain for like what do you possibly say to somebody
00:49:28
>> after? >> Yes. >> Okay. I want to know David, what would you say? Then we're going to find out
00:49:33
what happened. David, what would you say in that moment? It's like a game show.
00:49:36
I'd say, who do you think the Cardinals are gonna pick in the draft? >> I would say, you know, Bert, that guy
00:49:42
over there. You're right. [ __ ] that guy. >> Prick. >> That's what I would have done that.
00:49:47
>> That prick was talking [ __ ] to me earlier, too, Bert. >> Yeah. So, what happened?
00:49:52
>> I thought many things like that, and I'm sitting there literally just I I can't
00:49:58
get up and walk away because I'm terrified to make him angry. I don't know what to do. And finally, he broke
00:50:04
the silence. I swear to God this is true. He leaned into me very quietly and he said
00:50:12
>> I uh I never told Sally I loved her. >> Whoa. >> I said what?
00:50:20
>> Wow. >> I should uh I should I said oh you mean you're talking about Sally Field, aren't
00:50:26
you? >> Wow. >> Because they were like famously a couple. >> Yeah.
00:50:30
>> But like 25 years before that, >> right? So why he chose that moment to
00:50:36
break >> that silence with that statement, I will never know. >> It felt like, you know, sometimes when
00:50:43
people have PTSD or redundant things they need to get out, you were like fresh meat. You were someone to tell.
00:50:49
And obviously he intuited that you were a very decent person. Right. >> Right. So
00:50:55
>> that would be a very positive spin on that story. I think you're right.
00:50:58
>> I'm trying to be positive. >> I think it's nice. >> Here's what I would have said as a
00:51:02
backup. Look, I I I don't I don't mean to fan out, but your your performance in
00:51:08
Deliverance is one of the greatest things ever put on film. Anyway, I got I gota get Can I get you something at
00:51:13
catering? Would that work? >> Vanity play. >> Yes, that would have actually worked.
00:51:19
>> They have chili cups. I'll get you a chili cup. I'll be >> or some other more obscure movie maybe,
00:51:24
you know. But yeah, >> Sharkies Machine. >> Sharks Machine. >> Smokey and the Bandit 2 with Gleason.
00:51:33
But Jackie, >> famous story about um apparently James El Brooks offered Bert Reynolds the
00:51:40
Nicholson role in terms of endearment. >> That's what I read too. >> And he turned it down to do like stroker
00:51:46
race or something. >> I don't understand that. >> He might have been still upset about
00:51:52
that. That might have contributed to the >> Well, wait. Last thing. I know we got to
00:51:57
get going. But Sharky's machine, they cut off his hand. Cut off his thumb. Am I crazy? When I was a kid, I
00:52:03
saw >> finger. I think it's pinky. >> Was he was he a lone shark or a fixer or
00:52:09
something? >> He was a cop. He was a cop. >> Oh, he's a cop. >> And he's getting too close to like the
00:52:14
mob. I've seen this. >> Yeah. Got too close to the heat. >> Yes. And it turns out one of his fellow
00:52:19
cops betrayed him. >> Oh, >> and they like they they got him and and
00:52:23
uh they need to know where he's fallen in love with. Who is that gorgeous actress? Rachel Ward. Oof.
00:52:30
>> And she's this prostitute who knows too much and he's got her stash somewhere
00:52:34
and they need to know where and they start chopping off his fingers by the joint. You know,
00:52:41
>> you know what's funny? This is a side story, but these beautiful well-known
00:52:44
actresses almost every movie they're like in this scene you're just going to
00:52:48
be completely naked. And they're like, "Okay, rolling." It was like, you know
00:52:53
what I mean? It just at some point it just stopped. But for a while there, I was like, "Is everyone just going along
00:52:57
with this?" I think it was you couldn't really >> fight it. >> Some actresses drew the line, but yeah,
00:53:04
back then it was sort of standard. You ever do a scene where you had to be naked with someone like
00:53:10
>> Yeah. >> sex scene or >> whatever. >> It's one of the weirdest things ever.
00:53:15
>> It's one of the grossest for them. >> That's weird. Uh >> I did I did this thing with Kelly Lynch.
00:53:22
Okay. >> And she had a nudity clause, so it couldn't be her nude. So, you had to be
00:53:28
the >> Well, I I mean, they didn't they didn't >> Your call said you had to be there. They
00:53:32
>> didn't show any my money parts, but no, but at at one point, we're doing this
00:53:37
scene and it's like a porno. It's like a porn like, "Okay, now you know they like
00:53:41
the director like yells, "Oh, so now kiss down her body. Okay, now like he'll
00:53:45
direct you like how to, you know, what foreplay to engage in really." So then
00:53:49
they call cut and you do that with with Telly and she goes out and they bring h they bring in this this body double.
00:53:58
>> Oh. Oh. Oh wow. >> And they say, "Hi, this is uh this is Jennifer. Hi. Nice to meet you." And the
00:54:03
robe off. She's naked. And she gets in bed >> and and then you do the stuff that now
00:54:10
they can show the nudity. Okay. So kiss down her body. Okay. Okay. Go back now. Kiss back up. And now like Okay. Fondler
00:54:19
brass snout and so and you do that for a take like cut great we got it and and she's gone and you never see her again
00:54:26
I'm sure that there are prostitutes and John's who had much more of an exchange
00:54:31
than I have with >> Did you find yourself hanging out you know for the close-up so like okay it's
00:54:37
the moment of he's in he's just he's penetrated you and and you want her
00:54:42
reaction you could tell the the size of the member but he's like you know Do you know what I'm saying? Like
00:54:52
>> so you can be there. Go, >> No, honey. I'm bigger than that. So, can
00:54:55
you react more? >> Yeah. It's going to be It's going to be quite a thing. So, could you get a
00:55:00
little bigger in your close up? Like, >> or the director, it's whatever he's
00:55:03
into, he's like, "Now, kiss up her elbow and kind of chew it a little bit."
00:55:06
Everyone, >> well, it was kind of like that, you know? It was like, okay, that's how you
00:55:10
do that. But the funny thing is the movie I'm watching, let's say I watch
00:55:14
that movie, I think it's Kelly Lynch, so she's not really saving anything. It's
00:55:18
like, oh, those are boobs. They don't show her face, but I guess those are her
00:55:22
boobs. I don't know. >> Totally. I mean, yeah, but you know. >> Yeah. I miss the old I miss the
00:55:28
oldfashioned movies where the woman would pound the guy's chest. You're an
00:55:31
impossible beast. And then they'd make out. >> Yeah. Then it's that's four points.
00:55:35
>> You're impossible beast. >> That's what I like, Dana. >> I like those. We've never brought up
00:55:40
that subject of reaction shots on simulated sex before. That's a first. >> That's a good area.
00:55:45
>> I just wanted uh I wanted to break ground here. >> No, no. I brought up the thing of you
00:55:50
being on set going I need a little bit of reaction, please. >> Dana, do you need to ask an anything
00:55:55
other than >> Well, I would just do this real quick because I I um you're very interesting
00:56:01
to talk to and this is an impossible thing to ask people, but in no particular order, top five movies all
00:56:08
time. No particular order because it's saying one, two, three, four, five. >> We've talked like I, you know, it's it's
00:56:14
a very boring list. >> Godfather one and two. There's two >> Good Fellas for sure. Which I like to
00:56:19
think of as Godfather 3. I replace the actual Godfather. >> Yeah. Okay. Those are all
00:56:25
>> It's a Wonderful Life. Absolutely. Is in my top five. >> Okay. You can go to 10 if you've got so
00:56:30
many. >> I don't know. Those are really uh huge among >> um ones that I just like um long time
00:56:37
when I I appreciate Jaws a lot. >> Yeah, it's a great film. >> I appreciate Alien a lot.
00:56:44
>> Yeah. >> I love I love um probably the time I saw it, I was 14 when I saw uh 2001 of Space
00:56:52
Odyssey. I love Planet of the Apes. >> Boom. I love Redford in the 70s. I love
00:56:58
I love all the President's Men. The President's Men is definitely in my top
00:57:02
10 at least. >> We've seen it recently. My wife and I hadn't seen it in a few years and holy
00:57:06
[ __ ] does it hold up. >> Totally. More relevant than >> it's so brilliant and and relevant
00:57:13
everything. Um, Three Days of the Condor, Butch Casting, Sundance Kid. Um, >> oh, the Sting I would put way up there.
00:57:21
>> The Redford Newman. Redford got uh Newman got more subtle as he went along
00:57:26
as an older actor, >> but Redford was always we haven't had a blue-eyed wasp held back movie star that
00:57:34
well we just watched the horse whisperer the other night, you know, and uh he he
00:57:38
just had a he hadn't he's just movie star. I don't know. I mean, they never
00:57:42
gave him an acting award, but he's and he was did he not win? >> He was behind all the movies. Sydney
00:57:48
Pollock and were collaborating and finally he does ordinary people. So anyway, he's an interesting God rest his
00:57:54
soul character. >> No, I I my I did quiz show for him. >> Oh, that's right.
00:57:59
>> My first big movie that I got >> and uh thanks to Roy London and I just
00:58:05
ran into um John Terturo who was in that as well just the other night. >> Another great great actor.
00:58:11
>> He's incredible. Uh but um yeah, that they don't make him like Redford and and
00:58:19
Newman anymore or Bur Reynolds. I used to love Charles Bronson, too. >> Charles Bronson.
00:58:24
>> Oh, yeah. God, that guy was awesome. >> In the modern era, who are you? Are you
00:58:30
a Christopher Nolan or or Tarantino or both? Who's your favorite director? Or
00:58:36
do you like um who's the guy who did um Sideways and Descendants? >> Oh, Alex. Um
00:58:43
>> the director. >> Yeah, Alex. Is it Alex? >> No, >> Alexander Payne. Alexander Payne.
00:58:49
>> Alex. It is Alex. Yeah. >> Uh Nolan at his best. I'm a I'm a comic
00:58:54
book geek and so I love what he did. >> Well, the reboot that first reboot with
00:59:00
Christopher Reale for sure. Uh but when when Christopher Nolan gets too plays with time too much,
00:59:07
it drives me crazy. I can't handle >> I Well, that's I saw Dunkirk. I felt the
00:59:12
same way. I couldn't deal. >> I liked it, >> but but then I saw it a few years later.
00:59:17
there was a reissue and I I kind of knew what was happening in terms of that. So
00:59:22
then I fell in love with the movie. >> All those time jumps that you're not
00:59:27
sure. >> There was Inception and then there was Tenant, right? >> Yeah.
00:59:31
>> Those get very Yeah, those are >> they get meta on themselves to a point
00:59:36
where like you can't going on anymore. >> Inception. I like Tenant was a
00:59:40
challenge, but I do like Once Upon a Time in Hollywood a lot. Oh, I Tarantino at his best is pretty. I loved Once Upon
00:59:49
and I had >> I saw it 11 times. >> Un I had no clue. I knew nothing about
00:59:56
it when I saw it. >> Yeah. >> And so I'm thinking, you know, this is
01:00:00
heading towards, you know, Sharon Tate disaster. >> And my mind was so blown by that like
01:00:07
>> alternate ending of like Yeah. I ju I just what a great use of a movie star
01:00:11
like Brad Pitt to just like erase history like that and and save the day. >> I remember your white little face and
01:00:19
you were on a horsey. Are I'm as real as a hot dog [ __ ] Yeah, I that whole movie
01:00:26
and you know Leo was so great in that too. Let's face it. I'm a good goddamn
01:00:31
it has been. Don't cry in front of the Mexicans. >> He's incredible too. I always wanna
01:00:39
dislike Leo DiCaprio and then I I see I'm like I gotta give it up. He's just
01:00:43
He's great. Not good. He's great. >> He doesn't make sense. Goodlook. Has it
01:00:48
all then he's really >> Yeah, >> that's true. Anyway, well, we kept you a
01:00:54
little longer, but I I love talking about movies and everything. >> Me, too.
01:00:58
>> Feel feel good about yourself. I I read that you would be would have been a
01:01:01
therapist, maybe if you >> Oh, yeah. I was all set to go back to grad school for psychology and then I've
01:01:06
got the Simpsons basically. So, and I still have it. So, >> that's that's that run what you've
01:01:13
talked about. It's just it's it's incomprehensible that it's lasted this
01:01:17
long and stayed at this quality. And you're the 89 all the way through. >> It's extraordinary.
01:01:23
>> Yeah. I took I I took over the crown from there was a ceremony last year
01:01:27
where I was dubbed luckiest man in show business. that took the crown away from Alan Thick who had preceded.
01:01:34
>> Really? >> Yeah. >> Alan Thick. >> Uh well, that's uh Yeah. I don't know. I
01:01:39
Yeah, that that that whole thing. Yeah. But you're brilliant at it. So, I mean,
01:01:44
it's it's not like they could take Let's get an actor and have him do a funny
01:01:47
voice, you know? It's a lot. >> Well, now AI can probably do it, but that's a whole other story.
01:01:52
>> I know. >> We have AI on after you. >> I'm a digital copy of Dana Carby's right
01:01:58
now. a joke, but could >> you know the test? Put the hand in front of the face. You ever heard that?
01:02:04
>> No. >> They show them on Zooms, these people that are fake interviewing for things.
01:02:08
>> Really? >> They go, "Put your hands in front of your face." And he goes, "Why would I
01:02:11
have to do that?" You go, "Just put your hand in front of your face." And they
01:02:14
can't go like that. I don't know why. >> Really? That's >> And they talk about it. They won't do
01:02:18
it. And they go, "Thank you." That's all. They can't do it. So that means
01:02:22
>> that's terrifying. >> They don't want to show. That's weird.
01:02:26
Yeah, >> they're finding these little glitches. >> Yeah. Well, the soon they'll fix that,
01:02:30
too. >> Yeah, that's a that's >> This is still baby AI. This is infant
01:02:35
AI. >> Yeah, just wait eight more months. It'll be a mature. >> Okay, not scare us. I'm scared.
01:02:40
>> No, it's really true. I don't I'm not sc I think it's really cool. I read this
01:02:46
thing where like and the odds are better than I thought. You know, the [ __ ] that
01:02:51
can go wrong is intense, of course. >> And but there's only like a 20% chance
01:02:56
of that. >> It's like 80% likely that it will all be fine and just >> Yeah. That's a little too high for me.
01:03:03
>> Yeah. I thought it was more coin flip. >> Yeah. >> Um >> Well, when you think about like would
01:03:09
you get on a plane if I said, "Listen, you got 80% chance of landing."
01:03:12
>> You're not going to Yeah. >> Well, I get on a plane thinking I have a
01:03:15
1% chance. So, I mean, I'm not I don't like flying. Where's all the fixing
01:03:19
cancer and everything? AI, come on now. Let's go. >> Well, they're gonna give us fusion
01:03:23
energy, unlimited clean energy, and they're gonna cure all these diseases, cancer and Parkinson's and all that.
01:03:29
Let's just hope it does that in the first few weeks >> when it doesn't see us as the disease.
01:03:36
>> Well, that every science fiction movie, we had it in 2001. The AI turns on the
01:03:40
humans. Yeah. The only problem with the earth are humans is we've seen it in,
01:03:45
you know, Isaac and all these science fiction books and everything. >> Yeah.
01:03:50
>> My son's named Hal, so I take it really personal. >> Ba based on how the computer No.
01:03:56
>> No, it's despite despite that, I just like the name. I love Hal Ashby and
01:03:59
Halbrook. >> Oh, okay. I like both. >> We're looking for an age name. So
01:04:05
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