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here's a question for you because I have a few of my own personal thing but uh in
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the studio with a sketch what were the ones that just killed the hardest or made you laugh the hardest and it's
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probably dozens of them but I have one in mind that I was in that I didn't write but it went to a level of laughter
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and involved an animal ah massive head to inheritance because an animal you know a dog was
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lick the thing Bedlam but also the headline of it massive head movement that's an odd sitcom you know and Jack
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Handy said that's such an odd title but I think it was it was a Schneider's
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video I think I think it was Schneider and probably a few other people but that was just one of those things
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that they said between dress and Air like Robert asked the Handler of the dog what would make him really voracious
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well so they didn't feed him he was hungry and then put more stuff on my Prosthetics so the dog went crazy
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because I was trained by you I didn't want to be about the prosthesis coming
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off so I went like that and just held it but it was such a long battle between me
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and the dog that you and you kept in it yeah I stayed in I didn't want it to be
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about that and you didn't milk it no and I think that's the discipline of it you
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know that they you transcended you're still playing um yeah you don't want when it's killing
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that heart it was like pepper boy it was Sandler and that was killing so hard on
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air it just came out in San Lori were just in a rhythm together yeah and then Farley had one line and on the dress
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show whoa pepper boy so then the air show and of course we're coming around to like a Pepper or whatever he's like
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well thank you but ten times louder than I just said it Sandler turns purple is turning away from the camera to me and I
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whisper I keep the Italian accent and I go don't the break oh yeah and he didn't
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break because I thought the sketch was going so good that I didn't want to ruin
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it yeah yeah yeah if it's not going good okay it can break but not not a physical
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but also a sketch like canteen boy with Alex yeah I wouldn't get too far these days
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oh my God then it was resistance oh yeah totally so when you get uh obviously it
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gets it's probably still exciting and would you ever want to stop or is there or if
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Dana and I can't take over I think there's times when it's so frustrating
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and so whatever that you think uh but you know when that the warm-up is over you know and it's just you're hearing
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those last two saw just the band and you know those songs because they don't
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change much and then you start to realize you're you're kind of excited and that
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that's never changed for me no I don't I think you just you're like anyone who's
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driven you you take the slings and arrows yeah but I didn't really understand what you did until I guess
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hosted and was just kind of you hang out with you kind of more yeah and even if you're going to dinner or whatever
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you're constantly producing and constantly thinking and suggesting and you're really bleeding over every show
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emotionally so how do you decompress I mean are you it's like well I think it's
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different when you have kids because that thing you know you go to the party you come back and then somebody's
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jumping on your chest and you can still taste the beer and uh but they're the
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priority and you're not and that you get through that period I I think for me uh and particularly in the
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pandemic uh and with and for the whole of the 68 election and afterwards you sort of went oh people are counting on
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us talking about it and being there and that was like a a huge thing and when we
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did those at home shows in the pandemic yeah you know the idea that would and it
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always is it's just the DNA of the show we show up so you sort of feel you with
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9 11 or whatever that you have to and you know when uh oh when Sandy Hook happened
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you know and McCartney was on the show and uh and Marty Short and it happened on the Friday
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that's the toughest and I go we don't have to do that I don't know why we have
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to do that and then Friday night uh you can't not do it you can't somehow figure it out
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and there was a a choir a boy's choir oh yes that was on for Wonderful Christmas Time
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With McCarty I remember that sketch yeah yes Marty is this what Paul talked about this yeah
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yeah and we were uh it also happened to be the Friday night that they were shooting the last scene of 30 Rock Alec
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on a boat down South Street Seaport and I promised Tina and Robert and Alec did I be there for that so I'm driving down
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the West the uh Westside highway now we're and I'm still trying to figure out and what I'm going
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to do because we don't have an opening and Paul had said McCartney had said uh
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I'll do I can sing you know but I thought it's kids you just can't do any
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show business right do you know what I mean you could do let it be whatever but it would it would be somehow raw and I
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called Lindsay and said will you call the the choir master and see if he's got
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a chart on on silent night and uh and Chicago said they do I and they have the car they
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have the car yeah and so it became like we're gonna just do that I knew Phil
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Hobbs where put the camera lining designer yeah and it was like so uh they do it and then they uh
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and then they say live for New York and it did not work address and I went okay now this is where you have to right
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and Marty told me to start because he was watching me and he said you weren't you were so puzzling with it
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while you're giving notes like what is it and then dipped black just dip the black that ends and then
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the kids being happy and saying live for New York was completely understandable and forgivable
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it was you couldn't bleed the one into the other thing and so it was like Oh
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and it worked and you kind of go you don't know but you're like when you're
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mixing tragedy and all right you need jokes but also it just is you're supposed to do it so I'm finding that
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line you know [Music] Paul McCartney I thank you for introducing us you know I think he doesn't get credit
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for being a rocker Joe I mean I think the cliche was that John was and he was you know yeah but half the rock you know
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JoJo that's Paul yeah it helped her Skelter Yeah Yeah but um I think that he suffers from uh a good
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problem in a way too many great songs yeah people here let it be in Hey Jude they don't hear Here There and
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Everywhere yeah and and she's leaving home he has so many Melodies that you can't even remind people yeah and when
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people criticize him because I you know you're very good friends yeah uh I go no
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he's Mozart just stop it yeah it's great Melodies that's who he is yeah and uh and someday
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you'll get a perspective on it but it's really and I saw his last concert at the
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metal loans uh and what was interesting it was like three hours yeah and uh you know I mean things you thought you'd see
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for sure weren't in the show right it was really well thought out and and fresh and Brilliant and about 10 15
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minutes before it ended it started to rain but this is it you know the Meadowlands no one moved
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you know everybody just SATs every once in a lifetime and you go and it was the last time he was going to perform and in
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America anyway and it was just magical and for me it was I mean love me dues I'm a freshman yes you know what I mean
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so that's part of entry and I think it's all uh you know in the stones I saw
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in London this summer too are just phenomenal love them and it's just that thing of their
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you want them to be that yeah you don't need them to you know and if Sinatra was
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saying yeah you want to hear Summer Wind yeah yeah but I do think they'd get back
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the documentary kind of couch Paul in a better light I think there's a little bit more understanding because he
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could sing all the harmonies he could play all the instruments and he could write songs so it makes sense as you
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might say fingerprints would be he'd be collaborating with Ringo and I used to
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do that as a joke oppression so the girl goes in and he goes he's walking along
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and then he's doing it and get back to George Harrison and so the boy Genius kind of thing and
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Landon was off on his own Journey at that point but and also uh that in the concert now Peter Jackson
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gave him yeah a clip so he could sing with Lenin yes so you realize how Young led him was I know he's just 28. I know
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and you just go oh it's heartbreaking yeah and Paul was when I was watching on
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the rooftop when John was doing you know his song don't let me down Paul is so
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engaged not cynical at all and he's doing this incredible bass line and they're smiling and laughing and for all
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of us romantically because of what they meant to us we want John and Paul and for Paul his favorite part of the thing
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was them joking around and laughing because that's what he was yeah he said that's why yeah
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but you know time heals all wounds people don't you have that with the cast that you were with I mean a thousand
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percent um there you could we could run into anybody of our time well also Sandler is
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in the middle of it churning them out you know what I mean and as always and you just go Rob Schneider is living on a
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on a couch there you know yeah suddenly he gets into you know yeah Rob talked about them getting
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famous and we and then all of a sudden we had girlfriends you know and there was some thing or who thought of Cantore
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the one where I had Victoria's legs over my hell can't who really wrote that but
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you're right it is like being in the Marines or something not literally no don't don't send me letters but yeah you
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see a cast mate even running into Tracy Morgan he goes hey Alum you know there's
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a a spree decor I also think I think Bill Murray said it once you just can't
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explain what it's like being out there looking into the eyes of somebody else
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who's in that same scene that is it's maybe not working baby yeah yeah and or working way better than
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you thought the sparkle just that contact of being in that heightened reality uh with that level of intensity
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you can't really explain and I'm sure pro athletes have that I think it's you
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know dancers have it which is another great thing about the show is that you start having non-performers uh host the
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show I I guess you had pro athletes in the 70s but that's a reality show in itself if the pro athlete is bombing or
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killing it's just a pro you know Michael Jordan's gonna try to be a sketch player
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friend Tarkenton yeah you had his 70s but also I had Ralph Nader I had a lot of people that I just admired and so it
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was very smart for his entrance uh he was getting off the elevator on eight and I said I think if you were eating a
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hot dog that will help because he was so but I don't need no drugs I know I know
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that's that's why I think it'll work ultimate and he got the laugh and it was
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like he lit up it's exciting oh yeah they compete I mean Peyton Manning I mean they give each other they're like
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Russell and he you know oh he had one yeah he was he was fantastic I was a huge fan but it was just like you could
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call people and they'd say okay I didn't even know Bill Russell I didn't
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know who watched the show because we were mostly in eight age and then you go oh they're they're watching yeah yeah
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and Wayne Gretzky was so Charming I had Broderick Crawford was in some FBI movie
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oh yeah the robbery Crawford and I go I called him and I said he was living in Ohio and I I called him and I said we're
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doing the show and his coach said yeah I think I know it yeah uh so you'd have to
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be here on the Monday and that you know be this and uh I'm trying to reassure a
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man who does not need to be reassured and uh he said all right send me the ticket
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what I'm getting at is people just volunteered to come ah you know from Robert Mitchum Charlton Heston Robert
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Mitchum had one of my favorite monologue lines yes uh about live and it's so
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dangerous and and or you don't know what could go wrong and he said I thought
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what's the worst that could happen I won't get that 119th movie and he landed it perfect and he was so
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old school he had a half gallon of Jack Daniels in the dressing room this is an old-fashioned movie star yeah incredible
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to be here I couldn't have that too walking is Magic yeah walking that you know with cowbell I think I was just
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there doing a guest shot and that thing hearing walk and come out and need more cowbell I mean it was so the castle I
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mean I knew that will had done it before but once you got walking and then we'll
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that's why it's just iconic yeah no and also the Continental which he used to do
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yeah it was an actual show that he would see it was a local local New York 15-minute show where this guy was on and
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he wanted to do it so he knew it perfectly and that single camera like a white glove you remember bear
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suits are funny and bears as well was that a fake Christopher walking at the meeting yeah and we all went around
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pitching him and he's kind of staring up in Christopher Walken and then you said
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uh Chris and I remember him saying this in specific if you remember he just said
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non-sequitur best suits or funny and bears as well bear suits are funny and then he thought and bears as well I just
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thought that was the greatest write it up write it up let's put you in a bear suit
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but that was the thrill of being around him he was yeah there were a lot of people that you
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were either surprised or couldn't wait to meet or whatever and John Goodman could do no wrong Alec Baldwin it was
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like my third show was Alex first show and that was the green hilly and it was he did the mimic he did all these one of
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the things that I loved great but this is a Wayne's World thing which you'll
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remember uh he was doing green hilly you guys were in the conference room waiting to see me about something and uh
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and Franklin was there waiting and I can't remember what I was doing but Franken said out loud can you imagine
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what would be like if we had a really good looking guy remember this one oh boy yeah
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both Dan and Mike were like I looked at each other well I know I thought Mike was more team but maybe I was too I
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never said I mean I didn't have a chin I can't be I have a limit on how good
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looking I can be without a chin now I've got this the ladies like oh he that he
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got up for an Emmy for the first show Alec was kidding every sketch and it was uh he came out of Hunt for Red October
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and I was just like I went in the meeting going oh this guy's a movie star like I always do yeah I remember Victor
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did I interrupt you just said Victoria would say the second time Alec came in non-sequitur Victoria like on a Tuesday
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I'm not gonna do it again not this week I'm not gonna do it and I go what are
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you gonna do I'm not gonna fall in love with him I'm not gonna fall in love with
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him and then by Friday I fell in love yeah but he just gives these eyes and he you know he's just he was yeah and um
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you know there was so many home run hitters on that when I got there and all the writing and uh the smiggles and
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handies and we talk about it all the time but it was just hard to uh Lauren actually hung in there with me because
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it took a while to get my footing I was trying to write and trying to write for you it's hard right for other people I
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was just a stand-up so it's just to get it going and then got a little Hollywood
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minute then got some stuff and it just thank God I got in there because it took me longer than most and yeah because one
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he was in there too yeah so you were going to get those parts let's go through my diary I'll show you they
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would sit behind me David's on deck if you ever David ready Dana looks tired you're like no I look
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back Kevin Reed's reading something from Huxley David's ready whenever you're
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ready David you were funny the first year I met you truly thank you never a moment where I didn't think it was gonna
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work yeah have you seen cast members I mean there's so many that audition yeah I
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mean you couldn't say I guess if you felt like someone you missed on or someone I'm
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sure there's some that just obviously what happens is if there's no slot do
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you know what I mean yeah we don't think what you do then it's really hard
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actually I think Nick Kroll we talked to him and he he auditioned and he's he was
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the first one that made sense to me where he goes they had me because they had every move I do and there's just I'm
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an extra so I'm an extra guy from Samberg and Bill Hader and he locked him off and he goes and we talked about the
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pack it wasn't personal it was just those three years earlier it would have worked three years later but he was like
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I mean really really funny so that's just the way it is there and and when we're auditioning we don't think that
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we're just saying oh we want to be on and when Rob and I came on kind of writer performers or maybe just writers
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I mean no one tells anybody anything so Bernie just said they just go there and also Rob was doing making copies oh yeah
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you know yeah and this was somehow that just caught on yeah yeah and you don't
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know why it captures on but yeah and then you're running into the ground and
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then we the jealousy hit an all-time high when sting came on looking like a stud and
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then we were sting like a ding dong and then you go you want to be in cop machine he's like yeah I'm like God damn
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so it's just you have to sit on Sidelines and go good job and you go what am I doing here making coffee yeah
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but you know what and you can't argue it it's funny it was original yeah
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I was a great writer too he's a musical and he can write and uh it was so fun to
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be around these movie stars that are nervous and scared about going or musicians or you're sting I remember we
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were doing the elevator sketch and he's in we're in between he goes how's my
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hair how's my hair he's asking me you know it's like and they're really
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vulnerable and they got the you know I told Michael Jordan if you space out just read it off the card it's a very
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fascinating part of this whole flailing they don't know what to do there yeah
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I'm scared and if you get to talk to them they don't know that we're lowly
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writers is like what do I do here and I'm like are you talking to me I don't
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know what the [ __ ] going on Jeremy Irons I remember his show was on Saturday but the Oscars were the
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Sunday and he was nominated for best act oh wow and I I knew him from a play he'd done
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with Mike Nichols and up you know he was a great actor obviously yeah and they were doing a Sherlock Holmes uh sketch
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and a woman named the writer but they're like in their teaching him an English
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accent right you know like no no it's more this and you just go you know and
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uh you just go what you know he's I mean he wasn't best actor yeah but you just
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go are you think but the passion and blindness of comedy writers yeah you know what I mean of like no you don't
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get it it's like this and you go and so confident but performers have witnessed
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and felt death yeah so they never were confident because they actually know the job but writers are like no come on you
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know and I remember George Meyer when he was on the show dying and he he would just you'd sort of
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see himself throwing his body against the ball addressed here so when someone blew a line yeah and that's why
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animation works better you know because they because they they open exactly what they're told but
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performers can either give you that exhilaration of like they took it off the paper and now it's this other thing
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that will always be that yeah as opposed to you got to laugh at the end of the lot you know I think I was doing a
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courtroom thing as Johnny Carson as Johnny Cochran or something and Michael written it and he's put in all these
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birds and things on me like and it's five four three and it's a cockatoo I
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know Robert enough come on Robert is Relentless that way yeah which we love him for he's yeah he
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wants to be performing or he loves reform yeah but we had some great collaborations together he was he was
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good with rhythms and you know yeah um so so this new season uh-huh excited how was your yeah I mean uh you're pulling
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up your socks you're feeling good you're just eyes wide open uh I think we you
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know uh it was you know we had we ended the season with goodbyes you know particularly on cage
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and Pete and so dealing with that it just had that valedictory thing uh which we did with Christian wig as well we've
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done a bunch of times yeah uh and it just you just slipped out of the dead of night I agreement on Bernie you gotta go
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now or you'll never go no I don't know why I did that I you know a lot of
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people on this just anecdotally without naming names kind of like go why did I leave because some of them left
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voluntarily yeah and why was I so angry yeah and what was I thinking and for me personally I had so many inputs coming
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at me yeah I got too hot too big it's like Mickey Rooney in the Twilight Zone
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because of Wayne's World and all the political stuff so I was sort of lost but yeah but I I was envious and thought
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it was sweet when Kate and people got a little send off his sweet yeah and also I think there's something about
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uh it can't be everything to show and it is for so long and then then you could but
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if you're ever gonna leave you know and so you have to leave at some point yeah
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but also that uh they're you're never gonna feel that intensity of that because it's it's its own sport
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you know what I mean and you're in Hollywood yeah I went to sitcom and it was great people great actors and I go
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this is just not the same it's just not as tough and people writing for me and I
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go this is unbelievable and also it's all as it was all risk you know like there's no safety net and there's also
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no uh guarantee there's a good work on it or you're gonna are you gonna be
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honest like you're walking through the hallway and it's like 20 to one and they
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go and you're in your offer and they go Gap girls is cut go back to your rooms immediately yeah
00:24:14
anything that's cut on it that's the tuft because that's that's again there's
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no guarantees and now we tend to play some of those oh yeah again Saturday Night Live I I think I read
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this gets like I don't know two almost two billion YouTube views isn't it
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number one YouTube foreign uh Lewis Hamilton the race car driver was at a party last season and he
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thought he said well I grew up watching the show and I go here in England how do
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you watch the show you know you forget that it's it's all online and people and
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then I think when they see the Contemporary stuff then they go back and look at the you know the shows from yeah
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and there was a period about 15 years ago when writers coming in who would not been alive for the first you know five
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or ten years would we had a server where they could just go on so sometimes people would watch two or three shows
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before on Tuesday night before they started but I'll use an example I'll say
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well I think we did that with Bill Murray and then now I look out into a room of look okay all right
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I'm talking about 45 years ago like so it's a I think peacock probably has all
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the old ones maybe it's all everyone has it on their laptop I mean every sketch
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right because when I was there meeting John Mulaney and Bill Hader yeah I'm like oh what do you guys want to do they
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go we like Mickey Rooney when I did Mickey Rooney really and they they brought it up immediately so and and
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Bill you know what I've talked to Bill somewhat seriously about his time there
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he he was frightened he talked about the panic I go it's so interesting because
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I'm pretty good at reading that stuff yeah but he was so good on error and so
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original and I mean he auditioned with Vincent Price yes and who does that and James Mason now I they were in my
00:26:13
childhood and things got shot got to Oklahoma later but it was just a uh so original
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and right away do you know what I mean and Vinnie paderci and all all of that stuff and you go so such an original
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comedy voice yeah you know we know what else he can do but he was truly funny so
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good yeah his rhythms and the Vincent Price thing it didn't even matter if you
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knew Vincent Price just said his party's being ruined and he's being very trying
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to pull it together well okay thank you and it was totally I don't know who was
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coming to it feels but he said he was just you know almost in tears in the bathroom and yeah on 8h yeah you know
00:26:57
um I had you could if anyone wanted to see Church chat my hand was drenched in sweat yeah you know there's a lot of
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controlling of course adrenals and you don't know five seconds before you still don't know
00:27:10
whether it's going to work or whether but there is that thing of like it brings out the best in you and and when
00:27:16
you win you really can feel it well you can't there's nothing like the first big laugh
00:27:22
to relax you you're just not relaxed and the very first time I said well isn't
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that special I got such a big laugh I finally went ah but also there's a period in which they like you know you
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probably have three or four years where they they just get a laugh at whatever you do because they they think you know
00:27:41
more than they do and uh and they're just so excited to see you and that that
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been happening for the last 10 years or so you just kind of feel in the room and
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I'm going I don't think that's going to play and they're going of course it's
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going to play yeah it's those people doing it [Music] there was once when we were in the
00:28:05
Monday meeting and I thought I don't know if we had like a dry spell but I was in the money meeting and the
00:28:11
hosts who shower and remain nameless but I go I think Mike and Dana are more famous than the host and you know the
00:28:18
casket's so big sometimes like that and they're so well known and we always I
00:28:23
mean you always have to this day huge hosts and great people that come in from all areas and Kim
00:28:31
Kardashian did a great job and that was sort of out of the blue and uh just that's great that you keep doing that
00:28:36
and something's working there with a they all want to do it still and get that one thing because they hear about
00:28:42
it and they all walk away going it went too fast and it was too great and if I do it again I know what I'm doing this
00:28:47
time but also hosting everybody you know there's 150 people they're all there to make you look good
00:28:55
yeah so you're the center of it and it's just a different experience unless
00:28:59
you're Steven Seagal you believe that um my favorite host so one that you know
00:29:04
like you guys started uh which was kind of interesting having the women play men
00:29:09
because that wasn't happening yeah uh in in the in the and that just sort of
00:29:13
happened organically in Kate mcginnon did a lot of men and other things was that just uh just sort of happen you
00:29:19
went with it it's just a new flavor I mean if if you're me you're always going
00:29:23
to go with the funniest take so does gender isn't the issue it's just like
00:29:28
who's got that voice well Kate had the audience in the Palmer hand I think it
00:29:31
was so great he played uh yeah yeah she played Sean spice Trump was Furious about it
00:29:38
yeah because it's like they're having a woman play you I think at some point he liked what Alec
00:29:51
was doing he did no I think at the beginning maybe in the first five seconds yeah well it was just unique
00:29:58
because we knew that Alec obviously didn't favor his politics and then he started to not like Alec and it was a
00:30:03
public thing yeah and before it was sort of hidden if Daryl Hammond's doing Al
00:30:08
Gore no one really knows his politics or whatever so that was a new new kind of flavor as well yeah and also we did
00:30:15
things that we wouldn't do now you know with John Goodman playing the trip or
00:30:19
whatever you know like so it was just uh yeah you know and I think you sort of standards and boundaries change
00:30:30
and yeah you know things that you could do you know uh Franken did a Franken always stretched the envelope
00:30:39
yeah I think it was with Garrett Morris and Julian Bond and it was about uh it was
00:30:47
a black talk show and it had a line about uh that light-skinned black people are are
00:30:56
you know smarter than dark oh God that's just frankly hello you know like what and but what I'm
00:31:06
getting at is we could then there was no malice in it it was just like that thing
00:31:12
of what can't you say right in regular TV world yeah yeah I like when anyone
00:31:18
gained seven pounds the next week Farley was playing them yeah I was like his job
00:31:23
was like it was always brutal and I used to say this thing about when you guys were filming uh because you were up in
00:31:30
Toronto we I was down there doing the show and then I'd come up and whatever
00:31:32
but I'd say I'd see dailies and you your web handling stress was you know you'd
00:31:39
have a banana and whatever and it would be like that and part of these would just be to continue you'd lose weight
00:31:45
and he'd gain weight but the weight in the frame stayed the same yeah yeah it
00:31:50
was always a concert and I'd always looked normal yeah oh yeah we'd go back
00:31:55
and forth from Toronto yeah Eric Newman on the flight with us yes where's his
00:31:59
are you going to ever write a book Lauren because Meghan Markle did no no I I think the hard part
00:32:07
is uh you can't tell the truth or you don't want to bury me yeah yeah yeah
00:32:14
then would you have to be married did that actually happen do you know what I mean you know you
00:32:20
have to cross-check yourself too well it's just your memory right I have a good memory it's not that incredible
00:32:26
just like well what did that actually happen 100 because Dana and I even would tell stories and
00:32:33
we would disagree and I'm like God you're right and I go I remembered this whole time a certain way and it was
00:32:39
not and it's just something that happens like that so you just don't know yeah
00:32:43
and and that's why they do all that stuff in murder trials it's like the
00:32:47
people swear they saw this person leave and no they didn't and you just go and
00:32:53
yeah then they execute you yeah yeah and you go nowhere when it comes to taking credit I think
00:33:00
it's a normal human thing to kind of trend your memory towards favoring yourself yeah a little bit but you want
00:33:06
to cross check it with other people am I remembering this right like was there was there ever a horse on the show or a
00:33:13
horse yeah lots of horses because during during dinner I questioned was over in my cubicle arranging things and I saw
00:33:23
Keith Richard walking by himself walking up to the horse and he held the horse's
00:33:28
head in his hand he said look at you you're a [ __ ] horse that's I swear to
00:33:34
God that's what he said and then he just went back did I remember that correctly there was
00:33:39
of course the first time it was uh when Mr Ed died there was a news story and uh Chevy
00:33:47
could do Mr Ed's voice and so he yeah exactly Wilbur yeah and uh he we got the horse in the studio and then
00:33:58
he's interviewing the horse at the last interview you know and he'd be doing
00:34:02
both parts so when when the horse was talking yeah horses giraffes we had monkeys
00:34:15
we had a camel about four years ago no maybe longer now uh and it got off every camel works at
00:34:25
Christmas there was they they lied about how big it was scary so he came off the elevator
00:34:39
and then the hump uh you can call it a Humper yeah yeah uh the hump sure gotten stuck in the tiles
00:34:48
because it was so tall yeah so it was just stuck there was no getting it there and then but we're on the air we have to
00:34:55
get yeah so I think they got a donkey made it look like a camel it was like that kind of uh interesting
00:35:02
thing it's an amazing it's Bill Murray punched Chevy or is that a fake story
00:35:07
from the old days they got into a fight that was uh and John I think provoked it
00:35:12
a little bit I love John it was probably my mistake because I was bringing Chevy
00:35:18
back to host but it was three it was two a season and a half after he left and uh it just made sense the musical
00:35:27
guest on that show was the very young Billy Joel and uh they got into a skirmish just in front you know one of
00:35:37
the doors desk yeah and uh and then come out and do the monologue oh wow so it was like
00:35:46
uh both six foot four basically so and it was just a the show was sort of white hot and it was
00:35:56
John always felt in Lemmings which is the time they'd worked together before the
00:36:03
show John was the star and Chevy was taught and so and was like sort of third building and Chris you know uh
00:36:12
is involved in that show too Chris guest and you're going to go so there was
00:36:17
already like this is how we see you and then uh yeah also because he said his name
00:36:27
you know an update right I'm Chevy Chase and you're not yeah great yeah yeah well
00:36:33
and he's a big dude great looking dude movie star by then right coming back I always tell me when I run
00:36:39
into chip we're gonna have chubby on the podcast I try to compliment him but
00:36:42
sometimes he doesn't know he's a little but I I tell people if you want to know
00:36:47
how great he was is as a film actor look at Caddyshack where Bill Murray is in his full Prime groundsman character with
00:36:55
the mouth off of the side and they're together going through this scene and Chevy does his
00:37:00
Buster Keaton or whatever you want to call how still his face was and then his physicality it's like a master class in
00:37:07
comic film acting he got he gets uh beat up a lot and people forget what it seems
00:37:14
like a movie future yeah and Starry you know I mean just it's it's a thing it
00:37:19
was it was like uh such a huge thing yeah you know by the end of the first season and it was like way too much to
00:37:28
handle and uh it became particularly hard for he and I because we wrote together and so we were very
00:37:36
close and so it was heading in two different directions and then he became a movie star sure he's
00:37:43
insane ever since he kind of even when he would come to host he'd say don't
00:37:47
don't leave too soon he felt he wished he'd done more seasons because that was
00:37:51
that it was a yeah emotionally he wasn't ready to leave and also he was that other thing really proud of what
00:38:00
we've done yeah with the show so we had to see it still be huge yeah and grow my
00:38:05
Blues Brothers and yeah right and when listen when at the end of the first season
00:38:12
uh I win three Emmy Awards one for Lily Tom and Richard Pryor thing I'd done the
00:38:18
year before nice and uh uh Richard Pryor who I'd worked with we had dinner uh at Dan Thomas so you know we were you
00:38:28
know feeling pretty good about ourselves and uh he was offered a three picture deal
00:38:34
at University and he said this is what we wanted do you know what I mean comedians did
00:38:39
not get movies yeah right you know and it was like uh and I thought I've just been through my
00:38:47
Championship season it's not Courtney I wrote everything I ever wanted to write
00:38:51
all you know at least twice in that season so it was like oh you could you could get off stage now
00:38:57
and you know wow I don't know what I can't do that everybody else has to stay for five
00:39:03
years you know what's that but uh I think that if you said to me then that I would be still doing it and that I
00:39:12
would have found so many other things that were there that I didn't know at the beginning not part of the original
00:39:17
design or whatever things that it grew into or that it that it does or that its influence would be just as strong
00:39:24
politically as it is and music keep discovering uh super talented people yeah and being launched
00:39:34
from your show to have careers also they kind of find us no yeah you know in the 70s you had to go out and recruit
00:39:42
but I think people yeah sure I mean I like that staying alive because there was there was a time there like
00:39:48
obviously when you're on if you missed the show you had to get the rerun six
00:39:52
months later and if you missed that you had to catch it was luckily on the best of yeah in the summer but there was a
00:39:58
time there when people hadn't seen some of the old ones and then it was on the E channel and
00:40:03
then now you can see it all so it's it's interesting it's like Emma Stone grew up
00:40:08
on best of Gilda Radner wow and those sort of best you know what all those best if you're in them I mean but we
00:40:15
stopped doing them because the VCR thing yeah it wasn't really yeah and they're
00:40:20
all on YouTube yeah pretty much but people wore those out I think Kate McKinnon had one of those
00:40:27
three movies [Music] well Lauren we'll take a 20 minute break and then start the podcast I just uh we
00:40:41
just want to thank you for that I don't know we didn't talk about anybody dying
00:40:44
we didn't there's a lot no do you want to no no I'm I'm good I mean but that we
00:40:49
were there for a lot of that a lot of big ones yeah two of my band mates for sure yeah and I was just saying Catalina
00:40:55
Island and that's where Phil's ashes are do you remember remember John at the memorial
00:41:03
John Lovitz yeah kind of what do you do I just talked about Phil oh yeah yeah well uh but they couldn't have been
00:41:18
closer yeah you know that sketch which was a growling sketch that we finally did yeah what's the word on the street
00:41:25
they were doing the gangster thing so much before we premiered with the first show yeah I remember Dynamite did they
00:41:32
do anything else he was like how you doing I want you what are they saying what are they saying you know they just
00:41:36
did it uh spastically I love it still so funny I see him and then Three Amigos I
00:41:41
did it with them that was yes that's right yeah but John is yeah he's he's supernaturally funny
00:41:47
you see him you see John I do see John yeah I talked to him a lot he's he's on
00:41:52
the road or he's had a hotel with Jerry his dog Jerry Bruckheimer and you know
00:41:56
he's just there's only one John he still is one of the most naturally funny he is
00:42:04
really and where did that come from people like when they see him they all know him he looks exactly the same they
00:42:09
all come up he came back to play somebody like three four years ago I had a cold opening and
00:42:17
he destroyed the dress and I said John you got to make sure you're on your mark before you go you
00:42:25
don't like that and he was just off camera just just the live audience was going nuts but you know what I thought
00:42:33
heartbreaking because he's it's still all natural do you know what I mean so
00:42:40
that's the moment he felt to do it as opposed to three two one get to my spot
00:42:44
and then do it yeah a cart room would have been on camera for sure who Hartman oh Phil was I mean
00:42:50
his binder was so meticulous his office meticulous he was in so many sketches and then he would just in between takes
00:42:57
her when we're rehearsing he would just be looking at it I couldn't believe he'd
00:43:01
look at something else you're not looking at boats and his plane yeah he was a Renaissance person yeah yeah but
00:43:08
smart yeah all right well thanks buddy it's been great getting to know you guys
00:43:13
yes it's nice to meet you I really feel like I know you now and uh no thank you
00:43:17
for doing this Lauren goodbye hey what's up flies what's up fleas what's up people that listen we want to
00:43:24
hear from you and your dumb questions questions ask us anything anything you want you can email us at fly on the wall
00:43:32
at cadence13.com we have a question here great who will take over for Lauren how will the show
00:43:40
adjust and move forward 75 people ask this question yeah 75 plus from the same we get a lot of this is a question we
00:43:49
get a lot okay I would say we did touch on it I don't think he's going to want
00:43:55
to talk about it because no it means retiring and I don't think anyone wants
00:44:00
to retire I don't know if right he can handle the stress or if he wants to give
00:44:04
it away or if people will say oh ever since Lauren left it's just a great excuse to say oh the show we did and it
00:44:08
was kind of a joke but sort of serious we offered ourselves up to take over as co-producers and Lauren's eyes got real
00:44:15
big and he just went right right and I said or we could just take the money we do nothing
00:44:20
just get the credit yeah and then stir that credit and then work at the podcast and just see if it does I'll say it on
00:44:26
its own philosophically off top of my head I do think it's tough to replace Lauren because he works in so many
00:44:32
invisible ways and that is the relationship with the bosses because I'm for years and we touched on this but I
00:44:39
don't complicated they're always when the show's range Raiders are down sorry
00:44:43
I had a little nip when the show's ratings are down they want to change it they want it's got to be taped or you
00:44:47
can't Lauren was so Vigilant about keeping it exactly the same that's why
00:44:52
you go back and it's a little bit creepy in there because it's like going back to
00:44:56
high school it's cool now the the only thing different now when you go back is
00:44:59
all the photos when you walk down that first Hall are all so historical because it's every Big Star doing a big sketch
00:45:06
and you're like whoa all right here yep all the history of almost 50 years so I
00:45:11
don't know you know there's names there's Tina Fey they're perfectly
00:45:14
capable if she wanted it um Steve Higgins there's Higgins there's Downey
00:45:18
there's uh who wants the job who who can handle it remember Apatow talked about
00:45:23
it yeah he's a producer I mean you know Apatow could do it um maybe he wouldn't be as close enough
00:45:30
to the show so he'd get some resistance but but yes he knows what he's doing
00:45:34
Lauren took over as such a young man it feels like it needs young and yet uh the
00:45:40
show is already adjusting just culturally it's it's evolving you know when I was on there was like six cast
00:45:45
members now there's there has to be 620 or 25 well they were 600 for a while
00:45:51
um okay I'll ask you a question David who would be the biggest surprise you could think of that would take over for
00:45:57
Lauren I have I have my answer but serious [Laughter] [Music] oh they're offensive why are they
00:46:09
offensive because it sounds like they don't have a good career advice although
00:46:14
they're becoming an executive producer okay what's yours then I'll decide yeah
00:46:19
I did say now you you're in the cold opening do you know what a cold opening
00:46:27
is it's the beginning no oh that was my joke maybe you should try acting so that would be my surprise one but the
00:46:35
truth is nobody knows it's three years from now and uh but the 50th is we did talk about
00:46:41
the 50th and Lauren has not announced his retirement officially at all no it just feels like 50s like you know it's
00:46:49
halfway to 100. why are you pushing me out the door I just want your couch that's why I told
00:46:55
him no he's got popcorn he's a popcorn guy uh Tootsie Tootsie Rolls we don't like to stop talking so thank
00:47:08
you for asking and the answer is we don't know we could have said three four
00:47:11
minutes ago we don't know instead we we're narcissists and we like the sound
00:47:15
of our own voice so thank you 75 plus we want to cram one all from the same email
00:47:20
address you know who you are it's Lauren himself what did they say Lauren lauren.com
00:47:28
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