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[Music] looking good I you know we have guests you do this you I was shocked that you guys you and Pete have done 628 episodes
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just the fortitude of that is that true not many that's what it said episode 628
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yeah I haven't uh haven't made a dime it's coming our guys tell us it's coming right around the corner just got patience man I mean you know oh you got into this for
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money I I actually didn't and we just started doing basically a phone call uh he lives in fonia I live in Los Angeles we're like you know what we have such a great time talking to one another let's
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just record it and we'll put it out there as a podcast and we we did it once a week for now going on 12 years and uh
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you know we we just have fun doing it it's not it's not obvious wait a minute do do you read ads do you read ads yeah
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now you yeah still making nothing I mean we got you got Master Class you got what do you
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got you got do do you guys got Zach we've been there we dated for a while then we broke up we got we had a we sort of just they go n right Blue Nile is our
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biggest one yeah Blue Nile is good that's a big one we got diamonds M yeah so you got the original wife original
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wife meaning pre I never even heard of this situation I my wife's so attractive that people thought she'd be the second wife after I got some Fame and money I
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go no original wife like oh okay but you had done one special but you weren't Sebastian at that point right you met 2009 yeah yeah we went in 2009 uh I had
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I was just coming off actually uh yeah I was just coming off a special two years earlier and then
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yeah just you know knocking around comedy clubs she would come with me Addison Belt Line Road and improv and
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you know it was uh we kind of came up together in the comedy world uh obviously I was doing comedy prior to
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meeting her but like you know when I started making a living doing it she was kind of right there with me let me ask
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you this this is usually the evolution of a girlf might become a wife but okay early on she's up close maybe not the
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first row but right up there little few weeks later she's HT a lot she's in the middle of the crowd kind of hanging out
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then she's sort of standing in the back eventually she's in the dressing room for most of the show and asking you how
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it went and then she stops coming that's everyone I know that's every single they're really excited then they see how the rabbit gets out of the hat and they're going oh I see all these
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but anyway no you're right it's just it's a basic Evolution out of the building uh yeah call me after what
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about did you say Addison Improv is that Dallas yeah that's Dallas yeah and it's right by a freeway is that what you're
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talking about yeah it's right it's it's the most populated um restaurants per square mile I think in the country on Belt Line Road in Dallas y I've played that Dallas I I played the old Dallas
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improv that was on Central and Walnut and then they opened Addison that's how old I am and then I started playing that
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one and uh okay wait a minute I Dan Dana go ahead spellbinders in Houston anyone Bill Hicks was my Dandy little opener no I was I was temperamental in
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those days I got a hold of his collar and said you ain't going nowhere kid oh good I lost it no he was brilliant
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brilliant then all to the way so I there's another stat of yours I just have to ask you because it's
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extraordinary extra from from where you are now the math that I did on your Wikipedia page says you were still
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waitering potentially at age 32 yeah uh I okay that's extraordinary I was waiting tables yeah around 31 I quit the Four Seasons Hotel right here in
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Beverly Hill so I I was there for seven years in the windows Lounge delivering chicken Sates to every celebrity in town
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I love it love it I uh I would do comedy during my braak I would run to the The Comedy Store do a
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set and come back fre up my table so yeah I I was uh early 30s and drink don't you think I mean you know when you make it and then you went on and then you you're at this Apex I mean it's
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extraordinary welld deserved too so you don't you think it's better to make it later I mean are you still kind of used
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to it it's only been about 12 years since you went super Supernova I guess in the context of your life it's still kind of new in a way or are you kind of climatized to the numbers yeah what what
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arena what how big is the arena it's arena side come on Sebastian go ahead no uh you know I I'm glad it kind of all happened the way it happened um I just
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you know lot I I had a slow burn you know I didn't get a TV show or a movie or anything like that that kind of catapulted me into standup comedy in a way where I could draw a crowd so I just
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did it you know kind of slow burn and uh yeah I mean listen I I I grew up in a working class middle middle class family and uh you know we've always kind of had
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to work you know my my dad always says the Mana scalco family nothing comes easy we always got to kind of be patient
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put our time in did he actually say the Manos because I can't imagine my dad saying the cavies will always I mean
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that's just very Italian or Sicilian or something right yeah it's it's very it's very uh it's very Sicilian like um we
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always got to you know wait our turn basically no one bumps us to the the head of the line you know we're uh I I
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still have that type of career too though I mean I have a fan base obviously they come and see me but like
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for example I went to the Bulls game uh in my hometown of Chicago last week right Simone B sitting there with her
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husband Jonathan Owens and you know they put you up on the on the Jumbotron so they tell me we're putting some M biles up right she goes up there you would have thought Michael Jordan walked in oh
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my God you got to follow her and then me who I I just I'm doing two sellout shows
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the the Friday and Saturday right after that I didn't even though they announced my name it was almost as if a guy came
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out to shoot free throws during that's the response I got in my hometown so it's like I'm still like just On The Fringe of
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like quote unquote celebrity or fame yeah you know there's fun things there's there's interesting facts that uh like Dana has probably been more famous in his life than he hasn't been so that's
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that's probably a weird feeling because you always remember more that you weren't but he's had such a run and then
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Arty Lang who I think you guys all know Arty Lang told me the weirdest he felt was when he made more than his dad it
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was such a weird feeling for him him that what he does which is so feeling so trivial and then he goes wow my dad's such a [ __ ] hard worker and he goes I honestly had to go to therapy I didn't
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know how to deal with that isn't that crazy but I I I get it my dad was a high school teacher so Sebastian your dad was
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he somebody making six figures or 50k or yeah he's a he's a hair he owned hair salon so he was a hairdresser but you know never you know never had a a
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franchise of hair just a few throughout his career not not making a a fantastic living but not you
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know we we went on one vacation we had two cars we lived in a nice home never struggled for money but yeah I think it
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is kind of weird to get used to I never really even thought about making more than my father that never really even crossed my mind as far as like it's it's never been like you're making more money
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it the relationship is such is like that that he's the star right sure and and I'm I'm hanging on to his Co that's but also I grew up not knowing you know my dad was kind of in and out of my life
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but never even knew how much anybody made it didn't even cross your mind you just you know you had a place to live
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hopefully and some food and but I didn't know numbers I didn't know who knew yeah
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you know so you just that's your dad and he's the main guy in your life because he's your dad but it's a weird feeling
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to get I mean I there's times I feel obviously overpaid for things and you go just a weird you never get you never get used to it I don't care I mean cuz I had the same kind of thing five kids high school you know two day old baked goods
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not one day but two day my mom would go Old County Road never had a new car but we were we were super happy man we got a colored TV in 1965 we had an antenna we couldn't really see anything but it was
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colorful anten but I think I asked my wife and I don't know who you would ask but I always once in a while I'll ask her in 1979 when I met her I was in
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colleges trying to do the open mics Rob Williams was creeping around making everyone feel like why am I even doing
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this and I said did I ever say I wanted to be rich and famous ever nope no that was never the goal it was to become an a middle act the goal and then to become a
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headliner I was just middle so yeah David yeah go ahead speak to that I don't think that I don't think the the people that have talent and and are in this just for the sheer joy of making
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people laugh are ever looking for fame and fortune in in that way I mean obviously there's some outliers but you know in a day and age now where everybody wants to be famous for I I
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don't know what I mean you know I feel like we're kind of like The Last of the Mohicans in the sense of we're we
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actually had a work going to the club working on the ad act the timing the Nuance the heckling or whatever it is but now apparently you turned your camera on and you eat a meatball and
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you'd say you tell people how good it is and all of a sudden you know you're uh you're just as famous as the guy that's
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so demoralizing for the young people because I talked to some Talent managers a while back and I asked them does
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Talent matter and they said no no they think in a long career it does but no no no no there's a kid who open he's handsome he opens up jars of pickles he does seven figures so what do you do
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with that the impressing if your kid goes oh my God the the guy that drinks pickle juice follows you that's like the biggest victory of your life you're like everyone was good when I grew up Don
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Rickles was good Carson was good Frank sonant I mean all great but yeah that that's so distortive so uh I don't want to go to my go ahead one second you
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since you've been around entertainment for quite some time have you guys ever run across a Sinatra do you have like a
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Sinatra story did he ever come in I have a I have a weird one it's a little dark
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but so it's night this is a cigar metap sit no it's you're not going to see what's coming so it's 1998 and I'm getting a stent in my artery at Cedar SI
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which you know it happens I'm fine don't worry so I'm there I'm just in the you know I'm on the ward in my room reading a magazine and and there's this hubbub bubb and uh hey what's going on out
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there he goes Sinatra just checked in you know and uh they put him in the room next to me and so I was just listening I heard under my breath no he didn't wi but anyway he
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passed away that night uh it was May 8th or 10th 1998 not in my arms but yeah in
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my arms did you go in there and cuddle him uh I wanted to man I I I became an army issue hyper fan at AG 40 before that I didn't get it and then when I got it I really got it you know but I did
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ask the cardiologist there world class I go what was what was Frank anatra like as a patient and they were Indian
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they're brilant they're still friends of mine they go oh he was he was it was very tough you know because you give
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them the thing to blow in and see what your lungs are hey get back doc you get I'm going to blow this further than
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anybody's ever blown these bubbles in the [ __ ] life you know so I don't know do you have a snotch story David
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are you Sebastian that's mine no no I never I never ran across them was your dad a super fanali or no I mean I mean we listened to him but it wasn't like you know uh
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you know we didn't have a picture of them on the wall at the house it was uh he he was he was you know played on Saturday mornings while I was doing uh vacuuming I remember uh I had to do
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chores on Saturday my mother would play them around the house but uh yeah I don't know I just find them fascinating
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like I just I don't know like the the old school type of it's fun well the Rat Pack at the Sands the live album is Is Magical you know and John
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Lovitz told me John litz hello plays it in before he goes on every night when he
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does clubs he plays that to get that Vibe of Sinatra and Dean Martin and that that the coolness of that but can I ask you a question because I'm just sort of curious just to put a picture on your
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childhood you know working class how many siblings did you have I have a sister younger
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about five years and so what were I like asking people these questions TV show or movie that floated
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your boat as you know in the formative years 8 10 11 12 toy or bicycle you had that you'll never forget or musical act that you blew your mind coming up you
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have five seconds it was uh thre company was my compy my John Ritter is Magic did you ever meet John Ritter never met John Ritter but heavily influenced uh by my physical
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comedy with John Ritter uh a bike or did you say a a a toy toy He-Man I grew up in the
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He-man not Stretch Armstrong not stretch He-Man was a big a big He-Man doll I I used to play football like with my He-Man doll so it was
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like we might have gone too far He-Man for five yards and then uh an Entertainer would would be Michael Jackson growing up was
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was my vibe can I tell you my Michael Jackson story dang is it the holiday in yeah I worked at the holiday in and I was a bus boy waiter and the Jackson 5
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came in and I would go and and wait on them you know there was Tito and Marlin and I I went in Michael's room before the show he ordered raw carrots and
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Janet I believe as a little girl was jumping up and down on the bed and he would sit and look at the mirror in the
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room i' give him the raw carrots and I felt bad later on because I know I said you're a good-look kid but you could
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maybe do a little something and I backed off and left D that set off a whole thing with him I know but I did wait on uh because we were near the circle start
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theater up in the Bay Area it was a 3,000 in the round so I waited on Richard prior George Carlin Rich Little
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I did room service to Little Richard he answers this door completely naked God and anyway that's that that part that's another podcast can I ask you a little bit about um your your
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process yeah because once in a while I'd sit down on Netflix and I'd watch specials okay and
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I usually last 15 minutes with David well I like I said I last about 15 minutes David I go longer but so I'm going through I never I didn't know a
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thing about you never saw you and it was the one with the um Subway sandwich in the cinabun and I watched it all the way through and I said holy [ __ ] this is new
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this is familiar but completely brand new it kind of I me have gotten this from people over the years right when
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they first because the physicality and the musicality together was so potent to me and the physicality is it's not just all this it's also just send Bond into
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your head I mean it's like and then the rhythms yeah you know the way you say people like you're so exasperated the guy's over by the pool clip in his to
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Nails I mean it's so Hypno and I love it and I recommended that special and others to our business manager loves you and two things one so
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then I went I said I showed you to my kids I said oh this guy you know Sebastian then I said let's find out
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where he was so I watched you on Craig Ferguson doing standup and it was all there but it wasn't 2.0 it wasn't extrapolated but everything was there so
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the confidence leap was huge so You' had people tell you this right I mean it's it's so potent no one else is doing that even to this day your style I just I
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just really appreciate it and do you pull muscles do you get hurt on stage because Jim Brewer
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does okay that's all I got to say no it was very very sweet of you I I appreciate the cut I like the way you
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put it uh describing kind of what happens uh up there um physicality and musicality yeah I never heard it put that way but um yeah for me as far as uh
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I I I did comedy so much just to just to get good at it and familiar and you know
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talk about the confidence you know I noticed when I started moving a lot people like enjoyed that and it was a
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bit of a surprise because maybe you wouldn't suspect it coming from a guy like I was just kind of up there I was kind of dressed nice and then I would do a whatever and then I like wow I'm
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getting some response here with the movement and then I guess what happens in standup comedy you just become uh you
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try to get as comfortable as you are just talking like with your family so that's kind of how I equated it to because they would look at me on stage and go you're much funny when you talk
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to us you know well and I was like well you know I got to get used to this it's something that it's very new to me and
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uh and yeah for me it's just basically storytelling and the ACT outs are are kind of uh just they're they're not practiced it's just like I'm going to go to The Comedy Store tonight and I'm
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going to tell a story that happened to me and how I tell the story happens to come with a a head Bob or that Mo just
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being shocked the one I I don't know which special it was but people just randomly ringing the doorbell the act
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out on that was just huge I mean you were going in different rooms lying down it was like a whole military operation
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so I call it funny with the sound off and there's nothing more potent than if you look at I Love Lucy or Peter sers
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where there's first of all there's not one joke in your act verbally but also that the ACT outs allow the audience to
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laugh crazy hard because they're not they don't have to listen right at that moment so then they're free and so I I
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just it's a style that I just love it I think it's kind of a style that when I saw it at the store I think I first saw
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it uh Sebastian just leaving you know you do a set and you're leaving and I go he was next so I just sat in the back or
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I just walked in one night and before I went on just who's on I don't know everybody here and uh same thing Dana I
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just thought it was very different and I think it's kind of like maybe you're saying his standup in
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the old days was sort of uh in a weird way Acappella and now you're adding strings and different things to it because movements and different things are taking like a bit that's funny and
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it's getting funnier there's little layers to it now so you're not so you have a bit that's already funny and now
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you're putting different stuff to it now it's elevating and now that's your whole style there's more going on in each bit
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than a regular standup I would say that's what I I I I drawn to the same stuff it was already funny and then he surprised us with some moves I think I it was the Uber bit and there was the
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one about about when that was just funny to me and then and then when I see I see
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you know it got into this other thing that we can get into where I just did a special and this is more what this podcast is about um I did a special and
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so and what's the name of it when does it come we don't know yet okay but the thing about it is and Sebastian's done a
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lot of these and the idea of do you start from scratch and do a whole new hour or do
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you do a mixed bag uh so for me I just shot my special last week and I'm still on tour so that will come out after I uh after done with
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the tour so I'd like to give the crowd a new experience if I'm going to go on tour again I mean I think there's some uh some material that people enjoy that they want to hear
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right um and I might throw a few of the older ones in but I like to you know I I
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don't know it's hard with comedians I mean I'm sure you guys run into it The Impressions that you do people want to
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see The Impressions or people want to see the they yeah and you're like all right you know I'll give you that but like the hits here's what what do you got where's the brides groomsmen or
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whatever that one where they come down and rehearse that one I always thought was funny because when I see you
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sometimes I go oh I don't know what's coming out you know and I if I told my buddy oh there's an Uber bit there's this bit so those kind of things happen with me too they go oh I came to see you
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and you didn't do and I'm like I know I actually like to mix in some of my favorites and then of of course do new
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stuff and then there's that feeling of that was in the special do I do it when I go out again I
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don't know it's it's back and forth well here you guys uh a little bit older than me you you you didn't have like you when
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you did when you did something on TV or you did that just lived on TV it's not like you went and go and like pulled that clip back up again of uh the SNL
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sketch that you guys did it's like if you missed it you missed it yeah PR much and now it's
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all out there for everybody to see so you do a special and it's like I didn't even I didn't have cable gr up so I didn't even see the damn HBO specials and and
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and and when I it was like catching a unicorn but now it's like you do you do a special they cut it up it's all on Clips on on internet and then people come out and go all right well yeah we
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saw that what are we paying you know $55 ticket the big thing when I saw that already on on YouTube so it's a challenge I think for comedians to kind of come up with equal to or greater than
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material that they have done previously that's the challenge ticket prices are a trip right CU I was said oh you know I'm just
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trying to warm up so I'll play this casino in Orville and then I see the tickets are like1
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95 I got notes on stage I I'm working my old characters it's a little bit like guys i' I'd rather take a little less and not feel that [ __ ] pressure am I gonna give
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you 195 bucks wor the comedy but I will observe one thing about you because you don't have any punchlines it's a little
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bit like with me chop and broccoli people still I don't know if you've heard of it but it's this goofy song and
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there was no joke in it and so your bits have no joke so it's like Monte python or something The rhythms and the physicality you you probably would enjoy some of your stuff more the second time
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so I can see while you go okay I'm goingon to do this bit maybe do an encore you know bill um rean Brian Regan
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had to do that because he had some bits that were just so people just wanted to hear him and even before Twitter and Tik
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Tok yeah not with surprise punchlines those kind of burn out those guys who do that style that's hard but anyway you go ahead I think you're right sometimes
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it's just the way people do it like the Cho and broccoli everybody could watch that over and over again I I did have a
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question on the Cho and broccoli when you went chop you did a you did a chop and broccoli is that was that all in the
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moment there or was that like planned i' done it in the clubs I think the first time I did it was at the Improv on Melrose and that piano at midnight started it there so I was in the clubs
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for probably a couple years so that was just a a good representation but there's no way I'm knowing when I'm going to go
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you know but I knew I was going to escalate it but I didn't know it would happen right at that moment you know it's probably the way you work you know
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you and me you know no but it's uh yeah you you you kind of have an outline but you're not
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totally sure I know it's cold as eyes paradise and the feeling was so nice he's the lady I know if I didn't know
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her she'd be the lady I didn't know you know and then we get in my lady went downtown she bought some broccoli and
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then there there I'm off once I get to chop broccoli then Anything Could Happen chop in the clubs I'll do it for 10
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minutes with a guitar yeah or when you did an SNL I I've seen it but I watched it for the first time a week ago did it kill or was it one of those ones that like cone heads that doesn't do that
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well and then they do it again then it kills because they they're onto it you know what I mean they're like oh it takes them CU sometimes those are just
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like weird bits and then they stick with everybody and everyone's like oh [ __ ] that's great and you go you know it
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never killed because it's so new they have they don't even get it right away it did build I mean the character I had
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to call it a character I used to do it just as myself I'd set it up as rock stars losing
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inspiration um but Derek Stevens and then it sort of built after time but it did well it was at the end of my first show but then I wrote a sketch later where Derek Stevens goes to his record
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company and they tell him that he has to die because they look at the record sales of Hendrick and Jim Morrison that
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kind of killed the character you know but anyway but back to our guest did you guys on SNL I mean I do you look at other casts after you guys
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have left and said oh you know do compare like oh when we were there it was the hey day or how do you guys like judge the show after you been on it is
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something that you D I start with thinking they're all bad and then I go from there no I don't uh
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no it's it's we' we've talked about this because we we've talked to different Generations Garrett Morris and Lorraine
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Newman and then we go newer cast and it's always about the same situation where some of them are some sketches are
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good and some don't work as well and then there's some cast members that kind of pop out and some Flatline and that's
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just the way it's always been I think we I was lucky to have good people around me but that wasn't for sure known at the
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time it was five years later 10 years later that everyone kind of held up I always think you know what I mean um I
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could have some memories of the seven years I had in there that was really went well and everything but when I see
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other people like later on like Sher o Terry or if I see Will frell and stuff like okay they're better than I was
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that's how I go I go Bill hater okay there I'm not as good as uh Kristen wig or I couldn't do that I couldn't do I always look at the cast beyond my time
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lovingly and with a lot of admiration you know because like I didn't do that you know because it's kind of unlimited
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you do what you do and then you leave the show but you know it keeps being reinvented uh I mean how do you I'm just
00:29:21
going to ask you because you didn't have cable and you're in the clubs like who were you who were you looking at
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and you you didn't have telephone you didn't have a landline you know but who are you like George Carin George car who
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were you looking at to to it was anybody on Johnny Carson so we would stay up and watch Johnny Carson and I would be
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fascinated when the comedian would come on back then I think he got like seven or eight minutes uh and I was like just
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like oh wow this is this is unbelievable plus back then we would listen to records of Harin or or uh I would I
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would see cable my on on Saturday morning went over to my uncle's house to visit and he would tape all the The
00:30:01
Comedians for me to watch so I I that's kind of how I was introduced to standup was I I think first through through the Tonight Show so how old were you when
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you went to your uncle's house to look at the standups watch playb channel this is eight I was like seven eight years
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old oh so you got the bug early you kind of yeah yeah I was I was really really fascinated with standup comedy from a
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young age I just always thought it was I used to go to comedy clubs when I was 15 not to perform just to watch I had a
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fake ID me and my girlfriend would go and there's a little comedy club in Roseman at the time I even forget the
00:30:36
name of it um and we used to sit in the back and I used to sit there and Marvel at the comedian going gee how does he
00:30:43
remember all this exactly I did the same thing yeah and like are they just making this up like right now they seem so
00:30:51
confident so smooth yeah did you see Seinfeld on there I remember seeing Seinfeld I saw
00:30:57
Leno on Carson I saw Jeff Alman uh there's just some that stuck out George Miller remember that was is
00:31:03
that on Letterman Letterman's friend George Miller but that's funny because you see him and that's really it and
00:31:09
then you wait and see someone else on there Rickles was always as a kid was the one who just made me laugh the
00:31:15
hardest cuz over there Che jokes Ed the show started a half hour ago put him in the corner give him a cookie hey get the
00:31:23
prr I mean and you he had his tricks but still he made it feel so spontaneous and yeah so I I really
00:31:31
enjoyed him in the Johnny Carson banter and the back also I liked when the the the the the talk shows had people on the couch and you would come out and they you would goof around with the the girl
00:31:43
next to you next to you everybody would be like having fun and now it's like you
00:31:48
go out there and it's just you you and the host and it'd be nice to have this the first guest sitting next to you it's
00:31:54
promotion and corporate greed and you know that was just like I mean there's one online there's so many online but
00:32:01
Rickles is just next to Sinatra you know Vinnie Bango called you know he just doing all these fake Italian names and
00:32:09
uh Sinatra was dying but yeah that bygone era can I ask you this uh were you introverted extroverted in the middle going through grade school you have years where you were kind of the
00:32:20
King of the Hill other years you were dormant shy just shy kid never Class Clown just quiet polite just observe the the class clown
00:32:32
I I never liked the class clown I always thought not funny sorry Dana no I was introverted as well but when I was in fourth grade I had a good year I got kind of cocky but fifth grade I went I
00:32:44
went I went dormant no fourth grade some about I was a shoplifter I smoked cigarettes and I fought a lot of kids I
00:32:52
fought I was like and what happened your stock went down the next year I don't know you know that's that's the thing
00:32:57
what I was going to say about confidence you know is there's 99% and then that last 1% is as big as
00:33:05
the is the previous 99 and I think that's where you got to at a given point and so the audience when they sense that
00:33:12
kind of confidence like Dave Chappel when he's up there you know it's just like that's at that high high and you're
00:33:19
there 22 minutes to light his cigarette everyone's like I know and it's SM right you're actually it's funny yeah you're
00:33:24
waiting you're actually when you watch him you you hope that he likes you as an audience member that's how how powerful
00:33:31
he is but when you get to that level of confidence that next next wound down level the audience is so comfortable
00:33:39
they're so relaxed that you have command up there and you got there I don't know
00:33:44
what year it was but you got there and it's fun to watch i' I've seen recent specials I won't give names of big comics and I was one of them a few years back but their eyes are kind of big and
00:33:56
they're they're dancing for their they're a little sweaty and it's not their best set and you know you want to
00:34:02
feel like the guy's not shooting a special you know you know Sebastian's eyes get big
00:34:09
beat of sweat and it's ain't funny all a sudden go ahead D he's not Afra not afraid to keep keep it silent for a
00:34:14
second you know like I think I think I'm right when you uh oh yeah there's silence in mind I'm scared they're going
00:34:20
to yell I'm scar it's hard to sit there and be quiet and think of the next thing I think Nate Bazi has good crowds where
00:34:26
they wait you know what I mean mean they're well behaved and to get a crowd it's so much more fun to do throwaway
00:34:32
jokes or to take a pause and then to go but if you I get Rowdy sometimes and so I can't leave that much and I think I I
00:34:40
like when someone like Sebastian just stops for a second then he goes on the next thing and you're like I'm in this
00:34:45
so if you're good if you get a good crowd you can do it yeah that's the biggest fear that I I love the silence
00:34:52
it's just you don't know what people are going to say or do or or you know someone could yell out something because the audience feels sometimes maybe uncomfortable going are we supposed to
00:35:04
talk now or are you do you forget something yeah they want you to keep [ __ ] going they get uncomfortable they're like maybe this is the time he wants me to yell something
00:35:17
stupid and they're right on Q you know you're in shape as a standup if you're up there and you have a bit and it's
00:35:24
killing and you're just in the back of your head you go oh my God if this is killing I got three stacked right behind
00:35:29
this you know I can really relax now oh yeah you know that's a good place to be good crowd is great yeah yeah the yeah you gotta be I mean even even sometimes
00:35:41
you feel like I don't know if you guys feel like you're doing a bit maybe it's one of your favorite bits to do but it
00:35:48
doesn't come it comes in the middle you put it in the middle right and then you feel like after that you're like ah I don't the stuff that I got after this
00:35:59
not going to be as good as what they just saw right no but you get at least for me I get so excited to do that I got
00:36:06
to move it up in the act it keeps me kind of engaged then and then after that for me
00:36:12
I I feel like oh man it's it's a little bit of a let down just to to tell them these these jokes because I know they're
00:36:18
not as good as what I just did so or you know you get a weird crowd not to interrupt you I had this the other night
00:36:25
they they weren't they're either really biting on everything or you go oh they're not biting on this this is dirty and they're not biting and I'm like uhoh I'm looking at my list going we got some
00:36:36
dirty ones coming up toward the end how do I get around these because why it's so hard on your feet to go I got to move
00:36:43
that up I got to lose that but I still got to do enough time because they are if they're not biting on this one they're not going to like the next I you
00:36:49
can just tell I know get off it get off it it's such a psychological beating up there you're like don't you find it fascinating that you're saying they're not biting on this
00:37:01
meaning as as as an audience collect a whole group yeah yeah like like they all got together and go listen dirty we're
00:37:08
not laughting at the dirty stuff tonight but it's fascinating for me is like how is it like everybody in the audience is
00:37:16
not on board with this one particular J yep or they don't like the the super dry
00:37:22
stuff like you can just come have little musings that work like I think the other night I go on and I go uh hey don't tell
00:37:28
me what happened in the election I taped it don't tell me who won I taped it and then and then it I got a big laugh next
00:37:35
night I do it they're just staring at me I'm like what happened what happened between last night and tonight uh at
00:37:41
certain point it's too late to do that but for there two three days there and then I go and then I go there's some
00:37:47
throwaways in my ACT they weren't and they're like we're not the throwaway crowd give us the give us the fast balls
00:37:53
I'm like [ __ ] and that's what you realize early on and I go I got an hour I got my problem is if I too early get
00:38:00
too jumpy and I just go out and I go not going to do it I'm [ __ ] cuz that's it
00:38:05
they they they some people leave after that they or if I go party on some half the Crowd Goes we got it we we heard it if I don't do anything else and then you
00:38:16
do something else they go why are you doing something else why are you talking about anything but the church lady right now I don't understand why so you're
00:38:24
ruining it it's a good problem to have but it's basically a hits review I might as well be at you know the Tropicana and
00:38:31
Laughlin you know little Dennis Miller slipped in oh you go by the way I'll be at the Tropic Canan Laughlin on November
00:38:37
18 19 you got the Sebastian cat on on the Pod today huh that's a todl and Cat you know out there with the physicality works it works it so U what another
00:38:51
question beside but we're going to get to uh your all your credits movies TV shows in a sec you he's like please get
00:38:57
to my PR person's going nuts when is he going to mention the book when is he going to do it when is he going to mention the bookie we got a two hour pod I can't do it do you have to stretch
00:39:09
before you go out I mean do you kind of no I do uh early on no but now I I pop my calf a couple of times on stage of all things which bit was it or what it I
00:39:21
can't do the stealing it was just a pivot move we were squatting I I went to go spr from one side to the other as I
00:39:29
went off my right leg it I'm like wow did did I just break my leg doesn't take much you have to be at least 30 so after that it doesn't take a
00:39:41
lot you're like what happened was I turn to grab the computer mouse and everyone's like and I go that was it I'm
00:39:47
old enough that my my toes will spasm during a set like they just start going out and getting all rigid and I got to I
00:39:55
go what the [ __ ] that's painful can't put any weight on it so I just go not going to not going to step over here I'm trying to stir up ticket sales on this
00:40:07
B I want to see you collapse I'm going to your show so did you have to I said rest it massage it it it was okay yeah I had to mention it to the crowd because it definitely hampered my movement I had
00:40:20
sciatica for two years uh and it really really screwed with my that's wicked wicked [ __ ] I don't know if you guys have dealt with that do that go down your back your leg or something yeah it goes the side of your leg into your calf
00:40:33
some people get it into their ankle and foot but uh [ __ ] that debilitating I couldn't I couldn't move I you know it's
00:40:40
hard to be funny when you're in like a lot of pain so I had to really uh work through that it's it's gone now I I did uh Pates to correct that I tried everything no shots I was getting I was
00:40:53
doing pupping massage whatever that was out there I was doing and then I I fell upon this lree Pilates and all of a sudden two months in wow I'm yeah my
00:41:05
wife had it same same thing Pilates all that kind of stuff could I ask you what's special when you were in massive
00:41:12
pain did you record just that what was the name of that special when you were in paint oh that was the last one isn't
00:41:17
me in the tuo really kid he probably decided not to record this what is your last one called is it me yeah or I thought it ain't right no it ain't right
00:41:31
is the the tour the tour yeah yeah and then is it me yeah yeah and how would you what time is it what time is it I'm running out of special name
00:41:42
Sebastian you have one called give it a rest give it a rest mine's called beep bop boop I mean
00:41:50
they go is this a real one I'm like I don't know that's he had a special that even he had a special he named it the
00:41:56
name was so non script that for two years in this podcast neither of us could remember name of his current
00:42:03
special what was the name of it always like either two words or just something kind of cutesy but question aren't you
00:42:09
embarrassed what's wrong with people yeah get your fact straight oh yeah I got sciatica
00:42:22
[Music] it's if you name a special do you have to say the name in the ACT that's a
00:42:29
great question I uh you know people go I'll watch your special and give you a name I'm like you
00:42:35
won't because there's not some running theme of like I was abused by my father the whole special like oh I got one
00:42:41
you're like no it's just all goofy dumb jokes and it makes no sense so I'm going
00:42:47
to have a special name like when I heard Rock named his tambourine and I didn't get it at all but I just liked that it
00:42:53
was different and spelled different than and then he said when you're married sometimes you're the lead sometimes you
00:42:59
play the tambourine and let them shine and I was like oh okay so it has some thought to it you know so I like that
00:43:05
but I liked it anyway because it was just weird and uh and it's always fun to think of a name and then no one really
00:43:10
cares I had one good one and one terrible One the good good one was the '90s I called it critic's Choice with
00:43:17
four stars and I never talked about it on cable TV it would come up on Comedy Central Dana Carvey critic's Choice four
00:43:24
stars my sister would call me and says you got critic's Choice again then in 2016 I had an Irish nephew from Dublin at Stella Adler in Hollywood
00:43:36
and it was right when wokeness was coming in and they said this and this and this but straight white males need
00:43:42
not apply for some class so he goes man you should name it that you know so I named him stri straight white male 60 I don't know why cuz some people said that's going of catchy I would click on
00:43:53
that you know and then I'm on the great late Norm McDonald podcast and goes so I
00:43:59
sounded special I mean what was that title about and is it kind of has nothing to do with straight white mail
00:44:04
right and I go no it nothing there's no bit in there about it it's completely just slapped off like you confused Norm
00:44:11
with that one I did I know what do it mean what do it mean where's the bit about that you know I didn't understand
00:44:17
so we all love normal course uh throw in I just threw that in in case people don't understand that we make fun of nor all the time we love I I love to do him
00:44:28
because I'm visiting with him but uh so the bookie is what your PRP is that why you're on right
00:44:34
now besides besides he's on because he likes he's a big fan no it's uh um I watched one of the the first episode today it was it's very cool I
00:44:44
mean you had Ray Romano on on it you know and you were in that movie with him somewhere in Queens yeah yeah yeah so
00:44:51
yeah so it's coming out in December our second season uh yeah I mean I the whole
00:44:57
acting thing for me has been a struggle to kind of wrap my head around coming off you know standup comedy and getting
00:45:03
that immediate you know gratification on stage and then all of a sudden you're acting and now it's uh we're going to do
00:45:09
that again we're going to move the cameras and this and that just for me it's like I get like I get impatient
00:45:16
it's like okay come on let's uh it's not really fun is it unless it's documentary
00:45:22
style but if it's like we're coming around you know moving we moving in oh really do
00:45:28
you hate yourself when you start um repeating the way you did a joke over and over on different takes it's makes
00:45:34
me sick to be honest well you know because I keep doing it and they go do it again I'm like it's just it's not
00:45:41
funny and they go now do it again this is the one we're probably going to use I'm like now it's 48 takes in I've been
00:45:47
giving it my all hi hey and then I got to do it again and the people across me are like oh so all that that was all
00:45:54
planned that little throwaway adli I'm like yes you get it now sorry but in your act you do it once and you keep moving everyone's like oh hey they do the master shot at 8 a.m. right David
00:46:05
they do the bass shot then a second or third Master shot but the time you get to the money shot on you it's like eight
00:46:11
nine hours later you've actually said the words over 200 times it doesn't even sound like English at that point then
00:46:18
the reviews the comedian the impression his struggles with his acting skills no [ __ ] get put do Larry David with me just shoot everything every second one
00:46:29
time to just bring it back to us um Sebastian we were on a when we did Tommy Boy Brian Den he came in to play to play Farley's Dad we all love him from [ __ ] true you know first blood or
00:46:40
whatever and so we were all excited so we didn't realize because was our first big movie or any movie that we were Pete
00:46:48
Pete the director who's a great guy we love him but to make sure cuz we were new I think Paramount told him just make
00:46:54
sure you get it so we're doing 15 Masters you know forget about the over the shoulder and then a two shot and
00:47:00
then a over the wide shot and then a loose two closeup so we're doing that's why we're taking all day and then Brian Den after three takes of the master they
00:47:11
go all right going any he goes what the [ __ ] what what are we doing what are we doing here we got it go move on move on I love we just did three how we're going
00:47:17
to be on this a second at the beginning and a second at the end of the thing what are we doing and I was like are you
00:47:22
allowed to say this what what's going on and then and because you know Farley gives it 1,0% I give it about 64 and so at the he's just so burned out and
00:47:34
drinking coffee and we're like we haven't even pushed in for the stuff we're going to use so he was sort of
00:47:39
trying to protect us a little bit in a very loud voice I had Robert Loa do that on a movie oh that's another exct goes up the director gets in his face you're wearing out the actors you wear them the
00:47:52
[ __ ] out and the director's like shriveling down I did Roadhouse yeah I played a piano with Tom Hanks you [ __ ]
00:47:59
face we shot Road House in a day and a half that's Patrick swayy was Brian was Robert loia in Road House I think he's a bad guy was he lived across the lake anyway back to
00:48:12
Sebastian Sebastian bookie bookie the bookie on Max comes out December what 12th 12th second season I'm sorry 92% on
00:48:25
Rotten Tomatoes excuse me I've never gotten that much combined farewell 88% farewell 72 no that is a that's a very loving uh
00:48:39
amount to get I have I have a movie on there that's uh 0.5% I think I'm not K movie they go this one's they go it's good your movie's uh almost fresh and
00:48:50
rot Tomatoes I go am I buying something that's almost fresh I meanes sucks if that's means you're in the 40s I think they tricked me I go I
00:49:02
that's they go that's good I'm like is it good for me or is it good is it good for society yeah Jesus all right well
00:49:09
Sebastian thank you bud what else can we askk you I uh I appreciate he's a good guy I will see with the store he's a
00:49:16
brilliant standup I think you're an excellent actor by the way I like watching you act and uh and and you
00:49:23
wrote a book I don't know what you haven't done but you know just keep on keeping on if we run into each other
00:49:30
somewhere sometime what would you want me to say to you if a backstage The Comedy Store what would you like me to
00:49:35
say hey Sebastian we just pick it up right before we left off right here we just
00:49:40
just go into the next question and start start about the bookie and then just go from me are you going to run and tell
00:49:46
your wife and kids they said I was really physical and musical yeah no that's going to be at the dinner table
00:49:52
tonight do you know what the they said about daddy you know what they said and you're picking them up holding
00:49:59
them anyway it was so much fun to have you on here and uh yeah thanks for letting us blab but uh yeah keep on
00:50:07
doing and uh just have fun I guess enjoy yourself I mean it's enjoying myself and
00:50:14
it was a pleasure talking to both of you two guys that I kind of grew up watching on TV and uh you know sometimes it's
00:50:21
like you know you got to wrap your head around these things it's like yeah watching you as a kid now we're doing a podcast together sometimes it's you know plays with your head a little bit going
00:50:34
I told I had it with Martin Short and Steve Martin you know like really you consider me a peer what is this where
00:50:40
we're at now are you crazy you know but uh yeah I totally get that don't ever lose that you know and you're making a
00:50:46
lot of people happy I know that sounds really corny but from where I'm at people [ __ ] need to laugh in life and
00:50:53
so it's a good thing to it's a good stock and trade to do so all right all right guys your holidays and uh thank
00:51:00
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