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Chris Rock LIVE in LA

May 14, 2026 / 01:13:47

This episode features Chris Rock discussing his experiences in comedy, including stories about Eddie Murphy, Adam Sandler, and Michael Jackson. The conversation touches on Rock's early career, his time on SNL, and his interactions with various celebrities.

Chris Rock reflects on his journey in comedy, sharing anecdotes about how he met Eddie Murphy while stacking chairs at a comedy club. He recalls Murphy's encouragement and predictions about his future in the industry.

Rock also talks about his friendship with Adam Sandler, describing their early days in comedy and how they both auditioned for SNL on the same night. He shares a humorous story about Sandler's rise to fame and their bond over the years.

The episode includes Rock's thoughts on Michael Jackson, recounting a brief phone call he had with the pop star before hosting the Oscars. He shares a lighthearted story about his experience with Jackson's music video.

Throughout the episode, Rock's humor shines as he discusses the challenges and triumphs of his career, offering a candid look at the world of comedy and the people he has encountered along the way.

TL;DR

Chris Rock shares stories about Eddie Murphy, Adam Sandler, and Michael Jackson while reflecting on his comedy career.

Episode

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Guys, we got an exciting one. This is
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not a repeat. This is a new version of
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Chris Rock
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>> uh live at the Oreium Theater, which we
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>> live shot and had a blast. Always fun
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with an audience, especially with Chris.
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>> Yes. And um we're out there in three
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chairs. We had our cameras. Pretty big
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audience. I mean, the Netflix is a joke
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is like 18 million shows. But uh Chris
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was great. We learned a lot. We went in
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some places that are very funny. I mean,
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he just has a lot of stories that
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involve a lot of well-known people, you
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know, and there were some pretty
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fascinating pulling some names out of
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them. And uh God, we went back to SNL
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again. We we always do that, but there's
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always something.
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We went back to pre-SNL,
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>> how he met Sandler. Um
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>> old Eddie Murphy stuff. Uh where he met
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Eddie, uh a lot of great stuff that I
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don't remember doing that in the first
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time we talked. No, no, I learned a lot
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and uh he was great. We had a great
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time. Um we'll we're going to now tell,
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you know, repeat some of the main jokes.
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So, you go ahead. Now, we're not. But I
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have to say, I did laugh a lot. He He
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didn't walk through it. He came in in a
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good mood, excited. The crowd was into
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it.
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>> And it's one of those fun ones where you
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just start laughing and
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>> we're just kind of all over the place
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cracking each other up. It's great great
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time. No further ado, or what do you
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call it? No further ado. Is that the
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phrase?
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>> Close enough.
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>> With no further ado.
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>> Without further ado,
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>> the one and only Chris Rock.
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It's
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>> almost over. Almost over.
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>> 20 minutes.
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>> You're over here.
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>> Oh, he gets suspicious. Mine's w.
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>> Wow. Wow.
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>> People.
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>> Okay.
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Hello. Hi. There you go.
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>> Can you see?
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>> Wow.
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>> Downtown.
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>> This is kind
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>> We are not doing standup. Just so you
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know,
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>> just everyone pours out. No, we
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we decided where's the most dangerous
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place we can do this and what's the
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farthest?
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And it took some took some work. What we
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>> Ted Sando said 6:00 way downtown. I
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said, "Teddy, I am in, brother. I'm
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>> So, Chris, thanks for thanks for here.
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I'm here cuz I want to be here.
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>> This has nothing to do with my
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contractual obligations
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>> to Netflix and Ted Randos." Yes.
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>> Yeah. Three different nothing to do with
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that. It's all
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>> nothing to do with my three special
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deal.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And a pod. Well, we appreciate you
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coming. Chris is one of my good buddies.
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>> Little background on him. We did the old
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SNL together. That's where I met him.
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And uh
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>> Right.
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>> Such a Mhm.
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>> Uh legitimately one of my uh best buds
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in the show biz world and um would do
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anything anything for this guy. So, I'm
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really glad to see him in general. It's
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good to see him here.
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>> Uh Dana's fine, but uh
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>> it's 91.
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>> 91. I know. I don't like to throw these
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out.
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>> 91 Michael Jackson was alive.
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>> Y
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>> and you just got out of high and an
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outstanding citizen.
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>> Michael Jackson was killing,
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>> right? 91 was a good
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>> I waited on Michael Jackson as a bus boy
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waiter in 1975
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>> and I would bring him a plate of raw
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carrots and they were playing the Circle
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Star Theater, the Jackson 5. And there
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he was. And he'd always
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>> a plate of raw carrots. raw carrots and
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he would look in a mirror after
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>> [ __ ] rabbits.
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>> I don't know. Janet was jumping up and
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down on the bed. She's like 8 years old.
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I go, "Please don't do that."
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>> Oh, they were that small. Wow.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. He's probably 14 or 15.
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>> Wow.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And he was looking in the mirror and I
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brought him the carrots and I got kind
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of familiar and I said, "You know, you
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could do a little something." And I just
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dropped it, you know.
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>> I felt terrible. That was pretty good.
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Long way to go.
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>> Joe, Chris Rock is our guest.
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>> Yes.
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Um,
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>> oh, I don't know if we're going to keep
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getting applause off that. We're going
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to keep trying. Joe Jackson ordered
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three eggs and a belt. Anyway, I saw the
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movie.
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No, wait. I'll tell you Michael Jackson
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story, Chris.
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>> So, 91 when you came in. What was your
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first impression of
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>> Sorry, I didn't know. Were you starting?
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>> I did.
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>> The monitors have a lot of reverb.
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>> I feel like it's really kicking back.
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Uh, if they The mics are a little hot.
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Is that fountain? or I don't know. I
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can't really understand what you're
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saying. So, that's not a good thing, I
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guess.
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>> No, it is a Rock, you know about this.
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Are we getting a lot of kickback on
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these monitors or something?
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>> If you were a sound engineer,
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>> it feels echoey.
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>> Uh,
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>> did you guys did you guys do a sound
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check?
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>> Wouldn't that be great?
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>> That's what That's what I do normally.
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>> No.
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>> Wouldn't that be professional? I' got
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the sound check. I'm just
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didn't have time.
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>> No, it's wonderful.
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>> I left my house at noon.
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>> I was planning on getting there for a
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sound check.
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>> Oh, someone's screaming already.
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>> We've just added a second show. That's
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unbelievable.
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You guys
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>> I was going to tell you a story that is
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so uninteresting, but I'm going to tell
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it.
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>> Uh I did This is my only brief Michael
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Jackson uh
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>> Oh, okay.
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>> sex story. No, this is just my brief
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interactions. I was out in town. I had a
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joke about Michael Jax when I first
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moved out here. Just throwaway joke. And
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then the director of his videos uh was
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uh was doing his latest one, Liberian
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Girl, which wasn't a super banger, but
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it was on
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>> the director of Three Amigos.
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>> No, God, I can't remember his name.
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>> Filmopiles.
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>> He did a lot of commercials and stuff.
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Anyway,
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>> uh Jim Yuk maybe. Um anyway, so he says,
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"Hey, I'm doing this video and we're
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just having all cameos,
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>> but it was like Dan Akro. It was like
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big stars and he goes, "Do you want to
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be in it? You just we're just talking
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and doing stuff. You could just say your
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joke." So I said some stupid joke about
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it, but I was so excited to be in it.
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And then I wasn't in the video.
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>> And then I saw the director maybe three
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years ago and I said, "Hey," he goes,
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"Do you remember me? I was the director
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of that video you did." And I go, "Oh
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yeah, I wasn't in it." And he goes, "Oh,
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that's right." He goes, "You know what?
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Funny story. I didn't want to hear He
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goes, "I Michael would never talk to me
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about editing, but I showed him a cut
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and he called me in the middle of the
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night and said, "Hey, who's David
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Spade?" And he goes, "Oh, he's a
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comedian." And he just had a joke about
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you. So he put it in there and he goes,
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"Take him out." And that and he goes,
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"That was the only note for the whole
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video. Take me out." I was like, "Wow."
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>> And he goes, "Anyway, good seeing you."
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And I'm like, "Well, now
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that's what I got to live with about
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Michael Jackson." So anyway, we got time
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for one more.
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>> My Michael Jackson story.
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>> Oh, you got a Michael Jackson story.
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This one will be way better.
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>> Chris, we got cut out. Chris, you're up.
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>> My Michael Jackson story. It's a weird
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Okay, I got two.
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>> Okay. No, no. The first time I hosted
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the Oscars,
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there was like a a crew guy, a guy in
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the crew, like a a gaffer or something.
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>> And I guess he used to work at Michael's
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house or whatever, cuz Michael always
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did all sorts of stuff. And the guy
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literally gave me his phone. Somebody
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wants to talk to you.
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>> Oh wow.
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>> And he gives me the phone saying, "Hey,
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Chris, it's Michael.
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>> Break a leg." Okay. And that was it.
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>> That's better than mine already. Yeah.
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That's [ __ ] cool, though. Man, of
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words, but to the point. When was that?
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How How long ago?
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>> It was my It was the first time I
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hosted. So, yeah. Yeah. He because I
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remember when he passed away was in the
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Woodman's chocolate wasted scene at in
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grown-ups
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>> when we yeah we were in we were in uh in
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uh yeah
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>> yeah on the picnic tables we went to
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lunch
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>> and someone said it I don't think we had
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Instagram or anything but someone it's
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the rumor went around where I was like
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oh my god he just passed away
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>> and I remember Mama Rosone
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>> your mother-in-law in the movie
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>> yes
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>> was very sad it was hitting her very
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hard and I told her it wasn't for sure
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that it was just a rumor cuz I she had
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to have a softer After landing, she was
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totally already started crying.
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>> She was really bad. She Yeah, but that
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was uh Oh, that was in grown-ups
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applause.
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>> Thank you.
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>> 181 million domestic.
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>> 3,000 million.
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You guys all got a car from Adam? I
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understand.
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Did you get a car?
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>> I I I prefer money, but uh Yeah.
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>> But we did get a car. It was great.
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>> You got a car? Great. We got
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>> What kind of car? Everyone loves hear
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stories about rich people getting
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richer.
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>> You star in the movie. You're globally
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famous and you get a car.
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>> Yes.
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>> Nice.
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>> Everyone's like, "Oh, good for them."
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>> Yeah, definitely. Right. In the homeless
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capital of the world.
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>> Don't believe me? Walk outside. Anyway,
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um
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>> we're literally inside. India is
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outside.
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We stumbled into India. Uh, so I heard
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the other night you guys all went to the
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comedy store. I missed out. It sounds
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like fun. So you rolled with a pretty
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fun crew. Um, the comedy store is always
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fun. Like comedy seller when you go in,
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there's tons of comics, but because this
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is the festival, they're all kind of
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smashed in and when they're lost or
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don't have a sense of direction, you can
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always go to the comedy store. And so
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you went in. I heard it was you,
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Chappelle, Kanye, Louie. Did anybody go
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on or you just go in there to go watch?
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>> Uh,
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>> wait. Kanye West and Louis CK.
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>> Yes. The the canceled all stars
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>> because Dave
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>> Mount Rushmore of it fits somehow. How
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do you fit into that group? I I don't
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understand that.
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>> Chris is the nice fit.
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>> I, you know, I'm cool. I'm like
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Ludicrous. I'm cool with everybody.
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>> Sure. So, you go in, do you watch or do
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you just Does anybody go on? Dave went
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on uh Shane Gillis, too. Shane Gillis,
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>> another another home run hitter.
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>> He's doing very well.
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>> He's doing all right. So, yeah, Dave
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went on Shane.
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Uh Louie, then me, then Dave comes on
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and brings out Kanye.
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>> What What was his McDonald's bit?
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people. I mean, Kanye's like uh I I
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remember when people would do Letterman
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and he was just so famous. It was
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somebody said it was like sitting next
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to a $5 bill, you know?
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>> Yeah.
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>> And Kanye, you don't like you're like,
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is that a wax figure of Kanye? Like he's
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just that famous.
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>> Like, is that the real guy?
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>> Yeah. Is that the real guy? Yeah.
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>> And what does he say up there?
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>> He's not saying much.
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>> Yeah.
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>> He gets away with low effort
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>> right now. He's not saying much,
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>> but he's a he's a fire brand
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>> talking about his love of Seinfeld.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah. It's funny. One of us was at the
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chateau,
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>> Chris. I was at the chateau and about
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two months ago and then a girl walked by
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and I go, "Who?" I said, "Some lady just
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walked by in a full yoga or ballerina
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outfit."
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>> And then I go, "I wonder if there's
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something going on here." And then I saw
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Kanye and I go, "Oh, that's his wife,
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right?" Yeah. Yeah.
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>> And it kind of made sense like this is
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she dresses in a unique like she's
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always going to the Met or something.
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>> Yeah. But it's weird if you talk to her,
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she's so smart.
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>> It's like talking to Diane Sawyer.
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>> Really?
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>> With huge tits.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Okay. Let's all think visualize that for
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a second.
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like like she's like,
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>> "Yeah, I got it."
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>> Good.
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>> Beautiful.
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>> I kind of when you meet him, I met him
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at SNL on the 40th and him and Kim came
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around and they both had deep blue eyes
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and I just thought, "Shit, I guess they
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have blue eyes." I didn't think they had
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contacts. It was really weird.
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>> Yeah, that was just a blue-eyed night,
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you know.
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>> Yeah. Remember when Do you remember when
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I'm doing Chris Farley? You remember
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when he was going to attack me and Mike?
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We were doing Wayne's World. We had
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Kanye. He they had people holding him
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back like he was gonna attack us.
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>> I remember that.
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>> Was it a joke or was it
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>> It was only 10 years ago.
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>> Was he mad?
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>> No, he was fake mad. He was great in the
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sketch. It was like
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>> Oh, did he host?
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>> No, no, it was the 40th at the end of
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the anniversary. Sorry.
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>> I didn't make the 50th. The plane plane
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was late. So
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>> Oh, are you going to go to the 60th?
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>> Lauren will be 112.
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It's that thing of like uh you know
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Lauren always said don't stop. He always
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said that to me. You never stop. And he
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said Sydney Pouier told that to him
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>> and then he stopped.
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>> Did Sydney Poier stop?
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>> I got nothing.
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>> This is podcasting paid.
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>> I did a song with Kanye. I did. Anyway.
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Anyway.
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>> Well, what do you mean you did?
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>> Let's hear a couple bars.
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>> No, no, no. I just I'm on one of those
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albums. one or two of them.
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>> Do you talk or do you say did you rap?
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>> I just talked. I just talked in this
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song called Blame Game and um
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>> yeah,
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>> a song called Blame Game. Uh he coached
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me two 4hour sessions in the studio that
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he cut down to about three minutes or
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two minutes
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>> and yeah, he's kind of a genius. So, you
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know, whatever I did that. Is it hard to
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stay focused talking to him or is he
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he's probably interesting guy, right?
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>> Oh, no. He's very interesting guy.
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>> No, he did he did something that was
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brilliant. I don't know if he was the
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first one, but he'd have people sampling
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beats and rhythms and stuff and he would
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just walk around, listen, do it, change
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that, do that, get this, go with that,
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you know. So, he's got an ear,
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>> knows what he's doing. Yeah.
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>> Yeah.
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Let's talk for just a quick second about
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>> The one I keep coming back to is the
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>> So it's So it's all cake, no guilt.
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>> On top of that,
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>> but you're not eating a real cake.
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>> When you talk about you did top five the
00:15:59
movie, are your top five rappers the
00:16:01
same top five as they were when you
00:16:02
filmed?
00:16:03
>> My top five rappers, it probably changed
00:16:05
since top five the movie. I don't know.
00:16:07
Uh I would put Kanye number one. Uh I
00:16:11
would I don't know. Kanye, I'm really
00:16:14
I'm really loving Kendrick. Uh I
00:16:19
the the mo Kanye Kendrick I mean
00:16:25
God top five.
00:16:27
>> Mhm.
00:16:28
>> Uh Tupac didn't like me.
00:16:30
>> One hour.
00:16:31
>> Uh
00:16:33
>> wait a minute. That's a chapter. Tupac
00:16:35
didn't like me.
00:16:36
>> Tupac did not like me.
00:16:37
>> I didn't hear that. That's
00:16:39
>> see eye to eye on everything. Uh Snoop.
00:16:43
>> Snoop.
00:16:44
very very underrated but he's could get
00:16:48
everybody up.
00:16:48
>> JCole,
00:16:49
>> he's the most popular man in America.
00:16:52
>> Okay.
00:16:53
>> And then
00:16:55
>> does Eminem get any sugar?
00:16:56
>> Then Jay-Z,
00:16:58
>> then Eminem.
00:16:59
>> Then
00:17:00
>> interesting. Just on the
00:17:02
>> ice cubed then Eminem.
00:17:04
>> I like Eminem. Eminem's fine.
00:17:05
>> Yeah.
00:17:06
>> Eminem's to be listened to. You know
00:17:08
what I mean? Eminem is strictly for your
00:17:11
car. He's not like
00:17:15
What? What could you and Tupac not get
00:17:18
along about? That sounds so funny.
00:17:19
>> It was weird. It was um
00:17:21
>> cuz I had the same problem. It was just
00:17:24
>> I rubbed him wrong.
00:17:26
>> I mean, a you know, it's always the same
00:17:28
[ __ ] [ __ ] the same girls, right?
00:17:30
That's the first, right?
00:17:32
>> Like two, it's always like ah I saw
00:17:35
whatever, right?
00:17:36
>> He he always won that battle. But um
00:17:41
no, I remember I um one year at the MTV
00:17:44
awards, I presented some award.
00:17:46
>> Uh oh.
00:17:47
>> And uh Suge Knight was in the audience
00:17:49
and I did like some joke about Suge or
00:17:52
whatever the [ __ ] And then there was
00:17:54
the afterparty at uh Bryant Park
00:17:57
>> and
00:17:59
you know and I just had that special uh
00:18:01
bring the pain and Kanye and
00:18:05
>> not Kanye and Tupac was like what's up
00:18:08
with all that [ __ ] and black people
00:18:09
[ __ ] like like and he kind of
00:18:13
>> he kind of stepped to me but I didn't
00:18:16
Tupac was not that big. Everybody he he
00:18:19
photographs big but he's not that big. I
00:18:22
was like, you know, I was pretty skinn
00:18:24
I'm still pretty skinny. So, a skinny
00:18:26
guy can't wait to fight a skinny guy.
00:18:28
You know what I mean?
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>> Yeah.
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>> You're like, really?
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Uh, but not nothing happened. Nothing
00:18:35
happened, but we definitely had a little
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like,
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>> you know,
00:18:39
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:40
>> There was definitely some mean mugging
00:18:42
going on. And I remember that and I just
00:18:45
remember that night everybody was scared
00:18:46
of Suge and like like Eric B. You
00:18:50
remember Eric B and Rock Kim?
00:18:52
>> And Eric,
00:18:55
>> it's like Eric B used to live in my
00:18:56
neighborhood and he was such a big drug
00:18:59
dealer that he uh like before he had a
00:19:03
record out, the guy had a Rolls-Royce on
00:19:05
[ __ ]
00:19:07
on like Myrtle Avenue. Okay. Like that
00:19:10
kind of drug dealer.
00:19:11
>> That's good.
00:19:12
>> And he was like, "Why'd you talk about
00:19:14
Suge?" I'm like, "If this guy is scared
00:19:16
of Suge,
00:19:17
>> yeah,
00:19:18
>> we're all in trouble." Like
00:19:20
>> I think even white people knew to be
00:19:22
scared of sugar.
00:19:23
>> Hammer was like, "Why' you do that?"
00:19:25
>> Hammer.
00:19:27
>> Hammer.
00:19:28
>> MC Hammer.
00:19:29
>> MC Hammer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:30
>> MC Hammer.
00:19:31
>> I've seen I've met them all.
00:19:32
>> Yeah.
00:19:33
>> I'm like Black Gump, man. I've met them
00:19:35
all.
00:19:37
>> I've been through every so many weird
00:19:41
eras of show
00:19:44
>> Eddie Murphy, Michael Jackson.
00:19:46
>> Did does anyone you
00:19:47
>> Kurt Cobain? We didn't meet.
00:19:50
>> We met Kurt.
00:19:51
>> Oh, you did meet Kurt. Oh, wow.
00:19:53
>> You were there. We met Kurt.
00:19:55
>> Yeah, I hosted the MTV Music Awards when
00:19:57
they were on. Oh, yeah.
00:19:58
>> Where the guy threw the bass up and
00:19:59
almost fell on his head.
00:20:00
>> Hey, man. I once went to a black church
00:20:03
with Courtney Love. Okay.
00:20:06
>> Now, black women get mad when they see
00:20:08
you with a white girl anytime.
00:20:12
But when you walk into a black church
00:20:14
with Courtney Love,
00:20:17
>> what were you thinking?
00:20:19
>> Whose idea was it?
00:20:21
>> They're like literally cursing like,
00:20:23
"WHAT THE WHAT THE GODDAMN [ __ ] IS GOING
00:20:25
ON?"
00:20:29
>> What the godamn [ __ ]
00:20:32
Ah,
00:20:34
>> yeah. I remember Kurt and Courtney
00:20:35
sitting on the on the ground by the page
00:20:38
desk in that hallway just between songs
00:20:42
and just hanging out on the floor. Uh
00:20:44
the I think they they were in music
00:20:46
twice
00:20:47
>> and one time I definitely remember that
00:20:48
I definitely seeing them in the
00:20:51
cafeteria and we had dinner after they
00:20:53
rehearsed
00:20:54
>> and just but you didn't know. I mean no
00:20:56
one knew it was big the second time they
00:20:58
came on. They were a bigger deal. But
00:20:59
it's definitely fun when you're back
00:21:01
there and you see all the hosts or music
00:21:03
that you love and then they're just
00:21:05
stuck talking to you.
00:21:06
>> Who's the host when you were there that
00:21:07
kind of blew you away or nervous to meet
00:21:10
kind of
00:21:11
>> um
00:21:12
>> because it's weird in SNL you just
00:21:13
you're in your office or something, the
00:21:15
host is in up front and then they'll say
00:21:18
Charlton H would like to say hello.
00:21:20
You're like what? Yeah.
00:21:22
>> You know, I mean, some of those nons
00:21:25
don't know. They were all big stars.
00:21:27
Just some I remember being
00:21:31
>> and the guy has always been great, but I
00:21:33
couldn't believe how talented Tom Hanks
00:21:36
was.
00:21:37
>> Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah.
00:21:38
Absolutely.
00:21:39
>> You know, you'd be at the the read
00:21:40
through and he could do like nine
00:21:42
different voices and you know, and he
00:21:44
was reading everything Cole and he was
00:21:47
just crushing everything. you like
00:21:50
>> sometimes you realize this is why
00:21:52
they're famous.
00:21:52
>> Yeah.
00:21:53
>> Because you go some people would bring
00:21:54
real star there's like a star power
00:21:57
about them like you go this person's a
00:21:59
star and then there's some that sort of
00:22:00
flatline during the week and I go I
00:22:02
don't get it. You even you can just see
00:22:04
them read sketches and you go
00:22:06
>> they got nothing. I mean it's hard to do
00:22:09
the show.
00:22:10
>> It's hard to read. My favorite was
00:22:11
Steven Seagal.
00:22:13
>> Uh
00:22:14
>> oh yeah. Steven Seagal comes on. Okay.
00:22:18
So there's there's this um
00:22:20
>> the legends of Steven Seagal was he was
00:22:22
a a bodyguard for Mike Obitz or
00:22:24
something.
00:22:25
>> Yeah. Agent Tai Chi.
00:22:27
>> Tai Chi or whatever.
00:22:29
>> Martial artist. Yeah.
00:22:30
>> Whatever. And
00:22:32
>> so he's like this kind of move kind of
00:22:35
like this be movie star. And
00:22:39
C C there
00:22:41
>> C B was a little strong. Yeah.
00:22:44
>> B plus. She's like, "Scott Bale's B and
00:22:48
he's under Scott."
00:22:51
>> I personally really like Scott Bale.
00:22:53
>> I like Scott. I like Scott. Anyway, and
00:22:56
I remember we're he's at the readthrough
00:23:00
table
00:23:01
and he's at the front.
00:23:03
>> Yeah.
00:23:03
>> And it's time to read the first sketch
00:23:06
and Steven Seagal picks up this thing
00:23:09
and starts to read. And you realize at
00:23:12
that moment he's never auditioned for
00:23:14
anything in his life. Oh yeah.
00:23:16
>> You realize at that moment there is a
00:23:18
really a mafia
00:23:20
>> and they got him in.
00:23:21
>> You literally shove this guy on a
00:23:22
[ __ ] movie.
00:23:23
>> Yeah. Cole reading is hard to do anyway.
00:23:26
>> It's hard anyway. But
00:23:27
>> and you're in front of all these people.
00:23:28
And
00:23:29
>> what was the one with Tommy Lee Jones on
00:23:30
the boat?
00:23:31
>> Even Trump's like, "Pick it up." You
00:23:33
know,
00:23:34
>> pick it up. So it, you know, when we
00:23:38
were when he came on, uh Kevin and I did
00:23:40
Hansen Fron at the read through. Thank
00:23:43
you.
00:23:45
And we were making fun of Steven was
00:23:47
just button. He's got the script. And
00:23:49
we're doing stuff like Arnold could
00:23:51
definitely flick you with his little
00:23:53
little finger and you would fly across
00:23:55
the room and land in your own baby poop
00:23:58
avalanche.
00:23:59
>> And he's just like this reading. Yes.
00:24:01
Okay. Right. You know that kind of
00:24:02
stuff. So then we're rehearsing on 88h
00:24:05
on Thursday just like here. Basically we
00:24:07
read the scene. He doesn't he's never
00:24:09
said a word whether he liked or didn't
00:24:11
like the sketch. and he gets on the show
00:24:13
and then we cut for a rehearsal. He
00:24:15
walks off way off to the side and he's
00:24:17
just staring up the bleachers. I don't
00:24:19
know what he's doing. I'll go over and
00:24:20
talk to him and say, "Stephen, are you
00:24:22
okay?" And this is the quote exactly
00:24:24
like this, not looking at me. I just
00:24:27
wish Arnold was here so I could kick his
00:24:29
[ __ ] ass.
00:24:34
>> So for 72 hours, he was steamed about
00:24:37
that sketch.
00:24:40
And I did tell Arnold 6 months later in
00:24:43
Santa Monica in a restaurant with a foot
00:24:45
long cigar with all the Austrian guys
00:24:47
around him. I go, "Stephen Seagull says
00:24:48
he kick your ass, you know." And Arnold
00:24:50
just leaned back and went, "Is that the
00:24:53
fact?"
00:24:56
It's true. Absolutely true. Not a bit.
00:24:59
Is that the fact?
00:25:01
>> Any blue smoke greens, it's still girly
00:25:03
man.
00:25:05
>> You better see if it's a golf story.
00:25:07
>> No. You know who else? But I thought,
00:25:08
you know, else was I was a little star
00:25:10
struck by was Michael Jordan.
00:25:12
>> And Michael Jordan was the biggest host
00:25:14
of our time.
00:25:15
>> Yeah, definitely.
00:25:16
>> And he was still playing, right? Was he
00:25:19
still playing?
00:25:20
>> It was before McDonald's with Michael.
00:25:22
>> Oh, we did. We went down and went to
00:25:24
McDonald's underneath.
00:25:25
>> We went to McDonald's with [ __ ]
00:25:28
lifetime bucket list thing and I spaced
00:25:30
it. We went down and he goes, "Let's all
00:25:33
go." Yeah. Like during rehearsal, let's
00:25:35
all run down.
00:25:36
>> He was special. You and I used to go to
00:25:37
McDonald's all the time. That's why
00:25:39
we're so malnutrition. I ate there so
00:25:42
much. We never made that much money and
00:25:44
it was always like scraping. But u I did
00:25:47
remember that we went there and there
00:25:49
was that sketch in the 50s where Rob was
00:25:52
the announcer. Oh, they're really giving
00:25:54
the referees the business. And we were
00:25:56
an all-white team. We didn't want
00:25:57
Michael on our team. Remember that?
00:26:03
And he and he's like at halftime going,
00:26:05
"Can someone pass me the ball?"
00:26:08
>> Did you guys have any interaction with
00:26:10
Michael? Like personal
00:26:11
>> I I don't remember. I mean I
00:26:15
>> He was so intimidating because
00:26:17
>> he was a sweetheart. He was I was
00:26:19
>> sweet, but it was just like he came up
00:26:20
to me and he goes, "Uh, do you golf?"
00:26:23
And I go, "Well, a little bit. You know,
00:26:24
what do you shoot?" I go, "I'm terrible.
00:26:26
I I don't know. I maybe a hundred or
00:26:29
something." And he just paused and he
00:26:30
was very serious. He goes, "Um, well,
00:26:32
you're not very good, are you?"
00:26:36
>> He said, "No, I'm not." Anyway, he was
00:26:40
he was The other one was Mel Gibson.
00:26:43
When Mel Gibson in his handsome prime
00:26:45
hosted, I'd never seen the staff, the
00:26:48
women on the staff get that crazy. Do
00:26:50
you remember that?
00:26:51
>> Well, I was not there for Mel Gibson,
00:26:53
>> and he is a hottie.
00:26:54
>> I did a I did a
00:26:56
>> You did Oh, you did Lethal Weapon Lethal
00:26:58
Weapon.
00:26:58
>> I did uh Lethal Weapon 4.
00:27:01
with uh
00:27:04
>> with uh Mel Gibson before the you know
00:27:08
>> sugar tits
00:27:09
>> just another guy that really loves
00:27:13
Seinfeld right about now.
00:27:18
>> There's a theme there.
00:27:20
>> I love this theme.
00:27:23
>> Yeah, go Wikipedia. Ask
00:27:26
>> I just You got to be cancelled for me to
00:27:27
be friends with you.
00:27:29
Why do celebrities who drink not get a
00:27:33
driver
00:27:35
>> or an Uber or or a Whimo?
00:27:39
>> Why is Tiger Woods still
00:27:41
>> see you later? I'm taking the
00:27:42
Oldsmobile. I mean,
00:27:44
>> you know what?
00:27:44
>> Take the keys away.
00:27:46
>> I think too many I knew Tiger was in
00:27:48
trouble.
00:27:50
>> He was uh that, you know, had the whole
00:27:53
cheating and whatever and his wife beat
00:27:55
up the thing. Then he had a press
00:27:57
conference with all his friends and he
00:27:59
apologized. Now, right,
00:28:01
>> Tiger's black and Asian and he has a
00:28:03
press conference with his friends and
00:28:05
none of them are black or Asian.
00:28:08
>> Oh, what are they?
00:28:10
>> I was like, okay,
00:28:13
>> sometimes if you're that famous,
00:28:15
>> you got to have a Mario Joiner in there
00:28:17
somewhere. You got to
00:28:20
>> somebody.
00:28:21
>> No, but
00:28:22
>> Steve Harvey, I don't know. Somebody
00:28:26
somebody come on. It's like not one.
00:28:30
>> But if he's doing some things that he I
00:28:33
if he's that level of fame, I think he
00:28:36
just doesn't want a witness.
00:28:38
>> You know what I mean? You don't want
00:28:39
someone knowing what you're doing,
00:28:41
hearing you talk on the phone,
00:28:43
>> and just quietly taking in info.
00:28:45
>> Doesn't work cuz he has the money to
00:28:47
hire a new driver twice a day.
00:28:51
>> Is that the fix? You drive in the
00:28:52
morning, now you're out.
00:28:53
>> Well, I guess you should have a
00:28:54
full-time driver. Yeah. I mean, yeah,
00:28:56
you can't have a full
00:28:57
>> And you're not paying them to drive.
00:28:59
You're paying them to shut the [ __ ] up.
00:29:03
>> Exactly.
00:29:04
>> Exactly.
00:29:06
>> Everybody could drive.
00:29:09
>> I can't find anyone else. Shut the [ __ ]
00:29:11
up.
00:29:11
>> But only the good ones can shut the [ __ ]
00:29:13
up.
00:29:14
>> Yeah.
00:29:14
>> Right.
00:29:15
>> And if they're deaf and mute, it's
00:29:17
better.
00:29:17
>> How you doing, Mr. ROCK? OH, YOU GOT
00:29:20
THREE PROSTITUTES. I ain't seeing
00:29:22
nothing.
00:29:23
>> Yeah,
00:29:26
>> I love fake driving. It's not
00:29:29
>> It's like 1941
00:29:31
steering.
00:29:32
>> All right, Tiger. We're going to the
00:29:33
cause now.
00:29:34
>> That's what you're paying for.
00:29:37
>> Silence.
00:29:38
>> That's
00:29:40
>> That was a good topic.
00:29:43
>> That was a good topic.
00:29:44
>> Where we at?
00:29:45
>> Hey, it's your podcast.
00:29:47
>> You've been busy. I can't
00:29:50
Why were you at the Met Gal? I was
00:29:52
looking for you.
00:29:53
>> Um I don't know. I don't know.
00:29:55
>> You didn't have anything stupid enough
00:29:56
to wear.
00:29:56
>> I went last year. I didn't go to show.
00:29:58
Who
00:29:58
>> did you go best? Who wore it best?
00:30:00
>> I went last year. I didn't go to show.
00:30:01
I've been a couple of times.
00:30:02
>> Do you wear something weird or just a
00:30:04
tux?
00:30:04
>> Um just a tux. Just a tux. I've been a
00:30:07
couple of times. I don't I still don't
00:30:09
know what it's for.
00:30:12
>> Is there anything after those stairs?
00:30:15
Because once they get to that,
00:30:17
>> I would just go home.
00:30:20
>> Yeah. This this it's nothing. Like I got
00:30:23
invited last year and the year before
00:30:27
that I was like trying to save a
00:30:29
relationship.
00:30:30
>> Oh.
00:30:31
>> Oh, really interesting.
00:30:33
>> Hey, maybe if I take her to the Met
00:30:35
Ball. Nope.
00:30:36
>> Yeah.
00:30:39
>> Maybe if maybe I'm going to take you
00:30:40
around more famous people. That's the
00:30:43
tough one.
00:30:43
>> Yeah. Yeah. What goes on? I mean, we've
00:30:46
we only see the red carpet, right? And
00:30:48
then what goes on after that?
00:30:50
>> You eat shrimp.
00:30:52
>> You eat shrimp. You can't eat shrimp.
00:30:55
>> A lot of rich people. Lot of rich techy
00:30:59
>> white people.
00:31:00
>> They like, "Oo, this is Bob uh Zaminga
00:31:05
and his family owns the button."
00:31:10
>> They invented the button.
00:31:12
This is like all the buttons on the
00:31:15
world.
00:31:15
>> You ever heard about buttons?
00:31:16
>> Own all the buttons on earth.
00:31:19
>> Yeah.
00:31:20
>> If you're nice to him, he'll let you on
00:31:22
his boat.
00:31:23
>> Yeah.
00:31:24
>> You got to have a This is
00:31:26
>> He gets a piece of
00:31:27
>> Kelly Blue BL and her family owns green.
00:31:33
>> Just green.
00:31:35
>> Yeah. Jeff Basos has a 500 bill what a
00:31:40
million dollar boat. It's like a
00:31:42
thousand foot long. It's got a sail.
00:31:44
It's got another boat behind it. He's
00:31:45
selling it because, quote, "It draws too
00:31:48
much attention."
00:31:52
>> God bless.
00:31:52
>> Maybe it's the five. I do like his wife
00:31:54
though.
00:31:55
>> Lauren Sanchez. You got to root for
00:31:56
that.
00:31:57
>> I've known Lauren a little while. Yeah.
00:31:59
Lauren.
00:32:00
>> Have you been on that one?
00:32:01
>> I have not been on that boat.
00:32:04
>> Have you been on George Lucas's?
00:32:07
>> Have you been on Geffin's boat?
00:32:09
>> I've been on some boats.
00:32:11
I like
00:32:12
>> I I have a problem with a boat
00:32:14
invitation. Yes.
00:32:16
>> You'd rather float than sink.
00:32:18
>> Hey, I I tell some jokes and I you know
00:32:21
>> get on boats
00:32:22
>> and I get on boats.
00:32:23
>> You get on boats. What? You don't have
00:32:25
to say the name of the owner, but what's
00:32:26
the best boat you've been on that you
00:32:28
weren't? Holy [ __ ]
00:32:29
>> I I
00:32:29
>> They're all nice, right?
00:32:30
>> They're all They're all nice.
00:32:33
>> Your own.
00:32:33
>> And it's, you know, to be black and to
00:32:35
get on a boat leisurely is a
00:32:39
>> is a Okay.
00:32:41
>> It's a great thing. It's like
00:32:44
>> Okay.
00:32:45
>> It's like, "Oo, I'm up top."
00:32:48
>> You know, Chris, I don't know if you're
00:32:50
working on your standup, but you've got
00:32:52
you got at least four bangers in here
00:32:54
that you can expect and this is being
00:32:56
recorded.
00:32:57
>> But that is a great line.
00:32:58
>> I'm like, "Woo!"
00:32:59
>> You go to Met Gallas, you go to the
00:33:01
Oscars, you go on boats. Well, you're
00:33:03
living my I just know my kids are grown.
00:33:05
I go out.
00:33:06
>> Yeah. I know you from out the house. you
00:33:09
would get a tuna sandwich and you're
00:33:11
just in a sketch and now good lord
00:33:14
>> look at us.
00:33:15
>> All right. I found it kind of
00:33:17
interesting that you did SNL and then
00:33:18
you did in Living Color and then you
00:33:21
were sort of I think you did a movie or
00:33:22
something. You're just sort of in it
00:33:24
like this and then you did bring the
00:33:25
pain and I remember watching it and went
00:33:28
oh something just happened like
00:33:30
something new happened with that special
00:33:33
because I think you said you weren't
00:33:34
serious. At least that's the quote I
00:33:36
mean you weren't serious. I left SNL.
00:33:40
>> I went to Living Color.
00:33:45
>> Um,
00:33:46
>> I was in Living Color. Was it their last
00:33:47
season or close to
00:33:48
>> It was their last season. Of course,
00:33:50
soon as I get there, the Waynees quit.
00:33:53
>> Cuz that's they were a big part of that.
00:33:55
>> That's just the luck of me. You know
00:33:57
what I mean? Like
00:34:00
>> the Waynees quit the show. They are the
00:34:02
show.
00:34:02
>> Yeah.
00:34:02
>> Well, you had Jim Carrey, right? you got
00:34:05
Jim Carrey, you got
00:34:06
>> that's that's me.
00:34:08
>> Uh so I get there cuz I I I felt I don't
00:34:11
know. I just felt a cultural shift.
00:34:14
>> But uh then that show gets cancelled
00:34:17
and so I got no job.
00:34:20
>> I got no job. Uh no TV job. You know
00:34:24
that that good TV money. What happened
00:34:27
was I bought a house in Brooklyn and uh
00:34:31
I bought a carriage house that I would
00:34:33
that I would later lose a divorce. But
00:34:36
anyway, uh I bought a carriage house.
00:34:39
>> Sorry. Everyone loses a carriage house
00:34:41
in a divorce at some point.
00:34:44
>> I don't know. I just had a big ass
00:34:46
mortgage and I had to do more shows.
00:34:49
>> Okay.
00:34:49
>> And when I did more shows, I got [ __ ]
00:34:52
better. And at some point my brother,
00:34:56
I'm not gonna say the comedian because
00:34:57
that would be disrespectful, but me and
00:34:59
my brother went to see a comedian at
00:35:02
Radio City,
00:35:03
>> right?
00:35:04
>> And like like normal people, like we got
00:35:06
we made some calls and we got some
00:35:08
tickets
00:35:09
>> and
00:35:12
I'm a comedian, right? And I like I can
00:35:16
count on one hand the amount of times
00:35:17
I've sat in an audience for a comedy
00:35:19
show. Right.
00:35:19
>> Right.
00:35:20
>> And
00:35:21
I left the show. show. I thought it was
00:35:23
great. I thought the show was great and
00:35:24
the go the show was great, but my
00:35:26
brother my brother Andre goes, "You're
00:35:29
better than that guy. The [ __ ] out of
00:35:32
here." And it hadn't occurred to It's
00:35:35
like when the sometimes the the the kid
00:35:37
that's getting bullied gets bigger than
00:35:39
the bully.
00:35:41
>> Yeah.
00:35:41
>> And doesn't realize it yet.
00:35:43
>> Right. So, right around that time, it
00:35:46
took my brother telling me that I was
00:35:48
better
00:35:50
to actually snap me out of this.
00:35:53
>> And this was kind of a national
00:35:54
headliner. This was
00:35:56
>> And then like Yeah. And then, you know,
00:35:58
it's like one of those Rocky montages
00:35:59
where I'm just knocking [ __ ]
00:36:01
out. Like I'm just like I was just I had
00:36:04
gotten a lot better just just from
00:36:06
trying to pay for this house.
00:36:07
>> Yeah.
00:36:08
>> I got really good.
00:36:10
>> That's great.
00:36:11
>> So, get a big mortgage. Yeah,
00:36:14
>> everyone's like a comedy club and you
00:36:17
know
00:36:17
>> Yeah, but I I I was out of show, but I
00:36:19
was I mean, put it this way, too. I had
00:36:21
given up. I'd been in a few movies. I'd
00:36:24
been on Siren Live. I've been on Living
00:36:25
Color. I kind of thought I was done.
00:36:29
>> As far as like being a famous person,
00:36:31
>> right?
00:36:32
>> Right.
00:36:32
>> So, my concern, not even a concern, I
00:36:35
was like, "Okay, I love standup." And
00:36:39
all I wanted out of standup, and this is
00:36:42
like this guy's a big star, but all I
00:36:44
wanted out of standup was to be George
00:36:46
Wallace.
00:36:48
>> Okay?
00:36:48
>> Like George Wallace to me was like a
00:36:52
great standup.
00:36:52
>> A great standup crushes every night.
00:36:56
>> Never want to follow. would he would
00:36:58
come in to the club, you know, the only
00:37:00
other black guy, by the way, and he had
00:37:03
great suits on
00:37:05
>> and he had a [ __ ] Cadillac and he was
00:37:09
opening for bands in Vegas and whatnot.
00:37:13
And he was the only he was the only guy
00:37:16
I knew that was so organized. He had
00:37:18
like a real schedule. like he didn't
00:37:20
work in the summer like like he would
00:37:22
actually vacation and he had houses here
00:37:25
and there and I was like man if I can
00:37:27
just be like George Wallace
00:37:29
>> then then my dream that's that's what I
00:37:31
took it seriously he was but that guy
00:37:33
was like a Jedi
00:37:35
>> like he wasn't thinking about being on
00:37:37
TV or a sitcom or a movie
00:37:41
just working comedian was like okay
00:37:44
that's what I want to be I want to be a
00:37:46
focused great comedian that other
00:37:49
comedian Ians respect soon as I walk in
00:37:51
the walk in the room.
00:37:52
>> Well, that's what I wanted to ask you
00:37:53
because you know Gaffigan, Jim Gaffigan,
00:37:56
Jerry Seinfeld, these are they get with
00:37:59
the tape or they get with their notes. I
00:38:01
mean Jerry gets nervous if he needs that
00:38:03
one hour a day with his notes. Were you
00:38:04
like that or was just the reps on stage
00:38:07
or did you record it and listen because
00:38:09
that's very painful to do for a
00:38:11
>> I would record it. I would listen the
00:38:14
next day.
00:38:14
>> Okay. I mean, also I was one of these,
00:38:16
you know, I'll I'll give this me and my
00:38:18
my ex-wife go back and forth. She I I
00:38:21
you know, I was I was a Yes. I was I had
00:38:24
been on Saturday Night Live. I've been
00:38:25
in New Jack City. I was, you know, a a
00:38:30
mini millionaire at the time, but when I
00:38:32
met her, I grew as a person,
00:38:36
>> you know what I mean? Because I'd never
00:38:37
really had a relationship, a a grownup
00:38:40
relationship. Gotcha. So as I was
00:38:42
growing up as a person, I was growing up
00:38:46
as a comic,
00:38:48
>> you know. So I I just I just had IS
00:38:54
wider way
00:38:56
>> and the better I you know, and it
00:38:58
>> I I lucked up, you know what I mean? I I
00:39:00
lucked up in the sense that
00:39:03
>> you know, wow, [ __ ] I've been around a
00:39:05
long time. So,
00:39:07
um, you know, I guess there's
00:39:09
channeling, but I'm one of the first
00:39:11
cable stars, you know what I mean? Like,
00:39:14
>> right,
00:39:14
>> you know what I mean? Like, it was, it
00:39:15
was like, it when I broke it, it it was
00:39:18
not
00:39:19
>> from television at all. It wasn't from
00:39:21
normal TV at all.
00:39:22
>> It was from cable TV. So, I was like
00:39:25
this HBO thing.
00:39:27
>> HBO was Bring the Pain. And it got a lot
00:39:29
of awards and recognition. Got awards.
00:39:32
Critics loved it. And for some reason,
00:39:34
you know how it's just a joke sticks in
00:39:36
your head. Something about peanut butter
00:39:38
and jelly in the same jar. I don't know
00:39:40
why. I never forgot that. I don't know
00:39:42
why.
00:39:42
>> What is that joke? My We were so poor.
00:39:44
My My mother used to buy the peanut
00:39:46
butter and the jelly same jar. That's
00:39:50
like buying a a a shoe with a sock sold
00:39:54
inside.
00:39:57
>> Call it a shock.
00:39:59
>> Oh, a shock. Yeah.
00:40:03
When did you do Ninja with Farley?
00:40:06
>> I did Beverly Hills Ninja with Chris
00:40:08
Far. That was like me being
00:40:10
>> Was that when you were
00:40:12
>> That was before Bring the Pain.
00:40:14
>> That was That was after Living Color.
00:40:18
That was me broke as [ __ ]
00:40:21
>> Just take Well, you take it for the
00:40:22
money, right? You just go I'll just go
00:40:23
do a
00:40:23
>> Yeah. I was like Well, I was like, "Oh,
00:40:24
wait a minute. This guy I used to share
00:40:26
an office with gets $10 million a
00:40:29
picture or so."
00:40:30
>> It was like what the [ __ ] Yeah.
00:40:34
>> What the [ __ ] happened here?
00:40:36
>> That was after Tommy Boy.
00:40:37
>> Yeah, like Tommy Boy. But we did that.
00:40:41
>> Um, I had a lot of fun doing it. Here's
00:40:43
the funny thing about that movie.
00:40:45
>> I was horrible in that movie. Well,
00:40:47
initially, right?
00:40:48
>> So, I was cut out of the whole movie.
00:40:52
>> Like, you were cut out of the Michael
00:40:54
Jackson.
00:40:56
>> Yeah.
00:40:57
>> I'm cut out of the whole movie. Bring
00:41:00
the pain comes on HBO
00:41:03
>> and suddenly they put me back in.
00:41:04
>> They cut you back in. Wow.
00:41:07
>> Suddenly everything I did me at craft
00:41:11
services eating a Snickers.
00:41:14
>> It's in the credits.
00:41:15
>> It's in the movie.
00:41:17
>> It's like everything's in the movie now.
00:41:19
>> Great.
00:41:20
>> Brought in like three editors. Yes. Yes.
00:41:22
Reaction on Chris. He's not IN THE
00:41:24
SCENE. I SAID
00:41:26
>> YEAH.
00:41:26
>> YEAH. That that was big. That was big.
00:41:28
>> Yeah. That That was a a seismic.
00:41:30
>> Now, what was your next move after you
00:41:31
got big from Bring the Pain? I mean,
00:41:33
what was your next?
00:41:34
>> Um, it's weird. I did another special. I
00:41:37
did. I mean, I did Here's the weird
00:41:39
thing. I'm just like, I'm getting I can
00:41:41
I'm hanging with Madonna and uh
00:41:47
So, I'm with Madonna, right? And
00:41:49
>> yeah,
00:41:50
>> whatever. And you're hanging with her.
00:41:54
>> I'm hanging.
00:41:54
>> Okay.
00:41:56
And uh she pulls out, she's getting
00:41:59
ready to do a special in Cuba. I'm
00:42:03
really I'm literally right next to her.
00:42:06
She calls her manager or somebody and
00:42:09
she cancels the special in Cuba. Really
00:42:12
la last moment thing, right?
00:42:16
So,
00:42:18
I know how much money she's getting
00:42:21
and I
00:42:24
offer I call up Chris Albre at HBO go
00:42:28
I'll do I'll do a special right now
00:42:32
but I got to get the same money
00:42:36
>> and
00:42:36
>> and I GOT IT.
00:42:38
>> [ __ ]
00:42:39
>> WOW. SO,
00:42:41
>> so whatever it was, you could imagine.
00:42:45
But before that, I probably got 20 grand
00:42:47
for Bring the Pain. Like, no comedian
00:42:50
made any money
00:42:52
to do it.
00:42:53
>> They're like, "Take Madonna's money.
00:42:54
Give me that money."
00:42:56
>> Yeah.
00:42:56
>> But you did you shoot it in Cuba?
00:42:58
>> We No, no, no. We shot We shot Bigger
00:43:00
and Blacker at the Apollo.
00:43:02
>> Okay, that's right.
00:43:03
>> And uh
00:43:04
>> Yeah.
00:43:05
>> So, I did that. So, those two specials
00:43:07
are like kind of like a year apart or
00:43:09
year and a half apart,
00:43:10
>> right?
00:43:11
>> But, um,
00:43:11
>> but you were ready or you didn't know?
00:43:13
>> I wasn't really ready, but I knew I got
00:43:15
it together.
00:43:17
>> And I mean, I, you know, it's that time
00:43:20
in your life where
00:43:22
>> this, you know, there's a time in your
00:43:24
life when you're just a vessel
00:43:26
>> and the shit's coming through you like
00:43:28
that, you know?
00:43:29
>> So, I was at that vessel point.
00:43:32
>> Go Chris. And uh
00:43:34
>> go Chris goes coming through me.
00:43:36
>> And uh that I mean
00:43:39
>> most people think bigger and black is
00:43:41
better. Bring the paper. That's like
00:43:43
when when they were albums or DVDs,
00:43:45
Bigger and Black are always sold more.
00:43:47
>> Oh, really?
00:43:48
>> Yeah. It's it's the bigger special.
00:43:50
>> Um
00:43:50
>> Well, it's good they're even close. I
00:43:52
mean, usually a lot of people have one
00:43:54
killer and then the rest, you know,
00:43:56
because right now people do a lot of
00:43:57
specials in a row and some get watered
00:44:00
down. So then I started doing movies and
00:44:03
>> you know Mel Gibson called
00:44:06
>> hello
00:44:09
>> Melly Mel.
00:44:11
>> He was nice. It was it's crazy when you
00:44:14
see what happens to people.
00:44:16
>> And when when did
00:44:17
>> he was the nicest guy
00:44:20
>> to everybody.
00:44:22
>> Even the Jews.
00:44:25
>> He was just nice.
00:44:27
>> Yeah.
00:44:27
>> Yeah. I never in one thing.
00:44:30
>> Um
00:44:32
>> I think I mean I just I think he's
00:44:34
brilliant. I mean you never seen
00:44:36
Apocalypto apocalyptto was one of the
00:44:39
best movies ever made.
00:44:40
>> Yeah. It's unbelievable. I mean and as
00:44:43
an actor so
00:44:45
>> second chances
00:44:47
>> you know. No I got Hey
00:44:49
>> David I gave him a second chance.
00:44:51
>> Hey
00:44:52
hey if they want to do another lethal
00:44:54
weapon I'll take that check.
00:44:56
>> Yeah. What's your biggest mailbox check?
00:44:59
>> Madagascar.
00:45:00
>> Mad Oh, yeah.
00:45:02
>> Oh, it is
00:45:03
>> that I TURNED DOWN MADAGASCAR.
00:45:06
>> WHOA.
00:45:07
>> WELL, I WAS I don't know. I
00:45:08
>> What the hell was going on with you?
00:45:10
>> I had I had a bad day.
00:45:11
>> You couldn't think of a Are you allergic
00:45:13
to money?
00:45:15
>> Kind of.
00:45:17
>> Hes No, they wanted me to do a South
00:45:19
African accent and I was like really
00:45:21
working on it. I think Sasha [ __ ] did
00:45:23
it. Ah,
00:45:24
>> but now did you do the first movie? It's
00:45:27
not that because I did Secret Life of
00:45:29
Pets. The first movie there was
00:45:32
>> Thank you.
00:45:33
>> Hold your applause. And then the first
00:45:34
movie you didn't get much from
00:45:35
Madagascar.
00:45:36
>> No, no, no, no. DreamWorks was a new
00:45:39
company.
00:45:40
>> Okay.
00:45:40
>> So, this is the same, you know, I've
00:45:43
been lucky a few times. So, you get if
00:45:45
you get someplace early, they they
00:45:47
overpay. And
00:45:49
>> you know, DreamWorks pays better than
00:45:50
some of the other
00:45:51
>> DreamWorks. Hey man, for the Shrek guys.
00:45:55
>> Yeah,
00:45:55
>> it's like you know those guys
00:45:57
>> Yeah.
00:45:57
>> they made so much money none of them
00:46:00
ever worked again.
00:46:02
>> They all went like 20 years without
00:46:04
working. They made so much money
00:46:05
>> and now they have two more they just
00:46:07
did.
00:46:07
>> Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:08
>> So it's like Yeah.
00:46:09
>> Yeah.
00:46:09
>> Yeah. Shrek.
00:46:10
>> I love Eddie.
00:46:13
This is how crazy Eddie could be. Eddie
00:46:15
has the studio in his house, like the
00:46:18
recording studio in his house. So all he
00:46:20
has to do is go downstairs to do donkey
00:46:23
and
00:46:24
>> to do donkey
00:46:26
>> and
00:46:27
>> all right you do Eddie and I'll do my
00:46:30
>> and he would he would make them wait for
00:46:32
months at a time
00:46:35
>> and at least twice they negotiated deals
00:46:38
with me to play donkey.
00:46:40
>> Seriously. And then Eddie just went
00:46:43
downstairs
00:46:47
>> and I'm out of $30 million.
00:46:54
>> Just cuz Eddie went downstairs.
00:46:55
>> The highs and the lows.
00:46:58
>> He's 30.
00:46:59
>> I'm I'm on my way to the studio. YEAH,
00:47:02
I'M DONKEY. OH, Eddie went downstairs.
00:47:05
[ __ ]
00:47:07
>> [ __ ] [ __ ]
00:47:09
>> GOD DAMN IT. EDDIE WENT DOWNSTAIRS.
00:47:13
>> He's in his pajamas doing donkey right
00:47:16
now.
00:47:20
>> He's sad. You've had a big life, Chris.
00:47:24
>> It's getting bigger.
00:47:28
>> Good lord. Py tank.
00:47:30
>> Tang.
00:47:31
>> I think
00:47:32
>> py tag.
00:47:32
>> It's a title you can never forget of a
00:47:35
movie. Hey man,
00:47:39
everybody thinks they're famous and you
00:47:42
know you know there was a point I was so
00:47:46
famous I got a movie called Py Tank Man
00:47:49
>> where no one where the lead character
00:47:51
doesn't speak English
00:47:54
>> you got that pity on the run
00:47:58
>> sate
00:48:01
>> uh created by Louis CK
00:48:03
>> Louis CK was
00:48:04
>> written by Louis CK and a a little bit
00:48:07
myself. I got some jokes in there, but
00:48:09
uh yeah.
00:48:10
>> What about I'm going to get you sucker?
00:48:11
Where's the one where you said give me
00:48:12
some ribs?
00:48:13
>> What?
00:48:13
>> What was the one where you said give me
00:48:15
some ribs?
00:48:16
>> Oh, that's I'm going to get you sucker.
00:48:18
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:48:19
>> Directed by Kenan Ivory Wes.
00:48:24
>> Okay,
00:48:24
>> that's right.
00:48:25
>> Okay, now here's a weird story about I'm
00:48:27
Gonna Get You Sucker. I hope I'm not
00:48:29
speaking out of tune. Most of that movie
00:48:31
is thought up by Eddie Murphy.
00:48:34
>> Like, really? Yeah. And from what I
00:48:37
hear, Eddie was going to do it and then
00:48:40
he decided not to do it. And Keenan's
00:48:42
like, "Hey." Picked it off his thing.
00:48:44
Hey, you thinking about doing this? I
00:48:45
mean, he still made it into Keenan's
00:48:48
version of it, but the initial thing was
00:48:50
Eddie Murphy. Yeah. He told me he told
00:48:52
me he came up with the fish in the in
00:48:55
the shoe and all that stuff. But uh
00:48:57
>> I I play the ribb man and I'm gonna get
00:49:01
you sucker.
00:49:02
>> And it was based on
00:49:04
>> ribs man.
00:49:04
>> Like some real [ __ ] like give me one
00:49:06
rib.
00:49:07
>> Yeah. It's hysterical.
00:49:09
>> It's like the Golden Globe goes to I'm
00:49:12
going to get you sucker.
00:49:15
>> Now Chris is one line. He comes in and
00:49:18
then you go give me a rib and you're you
00:49:20
don't have enough money. And then you go
00:49:21
how much for this? And then you pull out
00:49:22
a wad of hundreds at the end. It's one
00:49:26
for a scene to stand out.
00:49:28
>> How much for a soda?
00:49:29
>> Yeah.
00:49:31
>> [ __ ] the cup. Put it in my hand.
00:49:33
>> Yeah. See,
00:49:39
>> my daughters here like, "Huh?"
00:49:40
>> It's good when it works.
00:49:42
>> Your kids know any of your [ __ ] My kids
00:49:43
don't know anything?
00:49:44
>> Not really.
00:49:45
>> My kids don't know nothing I've done and
00:49:48
could care less.
00:49:50
>> Yeah. It's kind of
00:49:51
>> in a healthy way. In a healthy way.
00:49:53
>> Yeah. What about the one you just the
00:49:55
last one you just did?
00:49:56
>> I just directed uh Misty Green. It's
00:49:59
going to come out.
00:50:01
>> It's going to come out in November. It's
00:50:03
at 8:24. It's kind of a drama, honestly.
00:50:06
>> Okay.
00:50:06
>> It's uh it's about a woman whose sugar
00:50:09
daddy dies.
00:50:11
>> Mhm.
00:50:12
>> And she's got a a week to get her [ __ ]
00:50:15
together
00:50:16
>> or she might have to [ __ ] a guy in
00:50:17
Dubai.
00:50:20
>> A tale as old as
00:50:21
>> it's kind of like it's The feelood
00:50:24
picture
00:50:24
>> the feelgood story for Christmas
00:50:28
movie family is did it start out?
00:50:31
>> Yeah. So that's yeah that uh what am I
00:50:34
trying it's it's it's the best way to
00:50:36
describe it would be a female uncut
00:50:39
gems. Okay.
00:50:40
>> Okay.
00:50:41
>> So it stars a woman named uh Rosalyn
00:50:44
Elazar. She's on a show called Slow
00:50:46
Horses.
00:50:47
>> Oh love that show.
00:50:48
>> Anna Kendrick's her best friend. Uh
00:50:52
Daniel Kua
00:50:54
>> he's her brother. Adam Driver is in it.
00:50:57
>> Oh, you got it.
00:50:58
>> Uh and myself and a few other people.
00:51:00
Anthony Anderson Toeer. Toe for um Yeah.
00:51:05
So we got
00:51:06
>> Have you done I mean
00:51:07
>> it's uh Yeah, we got it A24. Nice little
00:51:11
art movie.
00:51:13
>> How do you directed it?
00:51:14
>> People like that like Adam Driver, you
00:51:16
know, they're sort of brilliant at their
00:51:18
craft. I mean, it's just very subtle. I
00:51:20
mean, it's it's kind of like
00:51:23
>> comedians. I mean, you you got to
00:51:24
rehearse and,
00:51:26
>> you know, figure out their moves and
00:51:28
stuff. I mean,
00:51:30
>> but he was great. He was like, you can't
00:51:32
when you get an actor that good, every
00:51:34
take you're like, whoa,
00:51:36
>> you know, it's probably like you think
00:51:38
they'll be difficult when they're not,
00:51:40
then it's easy because then you have a
00:51:42
back and forth. But some if they resist,
00:51:44
then it's a lot. I've been on movies
00:51:45
where people really resist and you go,
00:51:46
"Oh my god, this is just going to make
00:51:47
it so hard."
00:51:48
>> Yeah. Well, it was a it was a it was
00:51:50
prime. There's some comedy in it, but
00:51:52
it's definitely leans dramatic. So,
00:51:55
yeah, I got if it's funny, I got a ton
00:51:58
of notes, but if it's not, you know, I
00:52:01
I'm going to trust Adam Driver.
00:52:03
>> Yeah.
00:52:04
>> Yeah, I would trust Adam Driver.
00:52:05
>> It's like, you know,
00:52:06
>> and do a lot of the great actors you've
00:52:08
worked with sometimes like after a take
00:52:10
that you think's brilliant like really
00:52:12
was it good? Do you think it was good?
00:52:13
>> Yeah. Yeah. Seems like some of them
00:52:16
>> like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Really? You
00:52:18
think so?
00:52:19
>> Wait, what movie was that one? Remember?
00:52:21
>> I did a movie called Bad Company.
00:52:23
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Was that
00:52:24
>> Hopkins?
00:52:25
>> Oh, really? Tony?
00:52:27
>> Tony Hopkins?
00:52:28
>> I did a movie with Tony.
00:52:29
>> Which one did you do?
00:52:30
>> Uh, Road to Wellville.
00:52:31
>> Hey, do you know what he would do? And I
00:52:33
don't know if he did this with you, but
00:52:35
he had a Polaroid uh shot of his his
00:52:37
character. His character had funny
00:52:38
teeth. It was all about the wellness
00:52:40
industry in 1890 or whatever. And you'd
00:52:43
be talking to And then they go speed
00:52:46
rolling. He would look at the picture,
00:52:48
crush it on his face, and then breathe
00:52:51
in like,
00:52:53
and then put it in his pocket, and then
00:52:55
he'd just be the character. Did you see
00:52:57
any of that?
00:53:02
>> I saw none of that.
00:53:05
I swear I didn't
00:53:06
>> I do I do remember like um older actors
00:53:10
>> Yeah.
00:53:11
>> they want to rehearse
00:53:13
>> and do not give them new pages on the
00:53:15
day. Yeah.
00:53:16
>> And I remember somebody I remember the
00:53:18
director giving him new pages and him
00:53:19
like, "Get the [ __ ] away from me."
00:53:21
>> Yeah.
00:53:22
>> Give me new [ __ ] pages.
00:53:24
>> Yeah.
00:53:26
>> Just for that today, you get four takes.
00:53:29
>> Yeah.
00:53:30
>> Did you ever work with someone who just
00:53:32
couldn't get their lines?
00:53:34
>> I mean, Bert Lancaster, I was in a movie
00:53:36
with him and Kirk Douglas, very sweet
00:53:38
guy. Would you be like, "Okay, I guess
00:53:40
we're going to rob the train." And then
00:53:41
everyone's just still and quiet line.
00:53:44
And then the woman, cuz we got to do it
00:53:46
today. Cuz we got to do it today.
00:53:50
Lying. And she would go on and on. Tracy
00:53:53
Morgan's like that.
00:53:57
>> Can't like literally like f one of the
00:53:59
funniest people. Oh yeah. Absolutely.
00:54:01
>> It's not that he can't do his he doesn't
00:54:03
know his lines. He can't do it the same
00:54:05
way twice.
00:54:06
>> Right.
00:54:07
>> It has to be different.
00:54:09
>> By the way, we a couple of back to
00:54:12
Michael Jackson. Yeah. just
00:54:14
>> all right
00:54:14
>> it's
00:54:14
>> like a crazy name drop fest so Matt
00:54:17
Eddie's house me there's a bunch of
00:54:20
people but I'll just say the name droppy
00:54:22
name so it's meant to hear it
00:54:24
>> Eddie Chappelle and Tracy a couple
00:54:28
people Raphael Sadik Simone uh lots of
00:54:32
cool people there and to watch the
00:54:35
Michael Jackson movie with Tracy Morgan
00:54:37
kind of narrating
00:54:40
>> Oh yeah
00:54:42
give me some pity loafers.
00:54:49
>> That sounds fun.
00:54:51
>> Who you think hit harder, Joe or Joe
00:54:54
Frasier?
00:54:59
>> That's great.
00:54:59
>> It's just like the whole movie wouldn't
00:55:01
stop.
00:55:03
>> That's mystery.
00:55:04
>> I got a name drop story about this kind
00:55:06
of stuff. Tom Hanks was telling me that
00:55:07
Clint Eastwood will sort of walk on the
00:55:10
scene and uh and he's just coming out
00:55:12
there and the cameras are rolling and
00:55:14
he's like, "Okay, what is it?" And the
00:55:15
script cyber just goes, "All right, so
00:55:18
let's get out of here." All right, let's
00:55:19
get out of here. So he likes to hear it
00:55:22
right before he says it
00:55:23
>> really.
00:55:24
>> And that's so kind of like Brando would,
00:55:26
you know, hide things in the ceiling and
00:55:27
stuff, you know. Anyway, inside
00:55:29
>> Brando have an earpiece.
00:55:31
>> Clint Eastwood is not Tracy Morgan.
00:55:35
It's not as dynamic as a centerpiece of
00:55:37
a story visually and orally. I agree.
00:55:42
>> All right. You got something else? One
00:55:43
little more for Chris Rock before we get
00:55:45
him out of here. What do you
00:55:46
>> Chris Rock? Uh
00:55:46
>> oh.
00:55:47
>> All right. Let's just your hot takes on
00:55:49
society. Okay. I have no takes.
00:55:52
>> Uh AI. Will it rule us? Will it take
00:55:54
over? Be a good thing or a bad thing?
00:55:55
You have five seconds.
00:55:56
>> Um
00:55:58
>> hey, I I personally know people that
00:56:00
have actually lost jobs to AI. Uh
00:56:03
they're in the tech sector. Uh so
00:56:07
hey man, I don't know for the arts, put
00:56:11
it this way. To me, AI, just in my
00:56:13
business, it's a drum machine. Okay?
00:56:18
It's basically a drum machine. You give
00:56:20
Dr. Dre a drum drum machine, it's
00:56:22
[ __ ] magic. You give me a drum
00:56:24
machine, it's a waste of time. So, I
00:56:28
don't think it'll make shitty writers
00:56:32
good
00:56:33
because the good writers will have it,
00:56:36
too.
00:56:37
>> You know what I mean?
00:56:38
>> So, so the distance is still going to be
00:56:40
the same.
00:56:41
>> Yeah.
00:56:42
>> Between the talent cuz the, you know,
00:56:44
everybody's going to have it, but it's
00:56:46
obviously a little scary. I've
00:56:47
definitely seen,
00:56:50
you know, there's definite parts of the
00:56:52
business that are going to be gone, you
00:56:54
know.
00:56:55
>> Yeah. Well, I was going to ask you about
00:56:56
LA, too, and the recession in the film
00:56:58
and TV business in Los Angeles.
00:57:01
>> I I did my movie. The whole movie we
00:57:03
shot in LA.
00:57:04
>> Good job.
00:57:06
>> Yeah.
00:57:08
>> Whole movie.
00:57:10
>> They did.
00:57:10
>> How much more expensive? I mean, that
00:57:12
was more expensive, right?
00:57:13
>> It probably was more expensive,
00:57:16
>> but you know, um
00:57:18
>> that's a good thing.
00:57:19
>> Not my money.
00:57:21
>> Yeah. I got actually some of it was but
00:57:24
I think I'm I think I'm getting it back.
00:57:28
>> Yeah.
00:57:29
>> When is this movie coming up? I put up
00:57:31
some dough.
00:57:32
>> Um this movie comes out in November.
00:57:35
>> Okay.
00:57:35
>> When the [ __ ] comes out.
00:57:38
>> I don't like the people that have AI and
00:57:40
they have Chad GBD and there's always
00:57:41
one guy going, "Hey, can you start World
00:57:44
War III?" It's like, why? let's not mess
00:57:45
with it because they if they've read
00:57:48
every book in the world you're like they
00:57:50
can probably start some [ __ ] So it
00:57:52
shouldn't be in everyone's hands on
00:57:54
their phone which I think it is now. Uh
00:57:57
I haven't done it yet.
00:57:57
>> We are living in the singularity. I mean
00:57:59
this is the printing press. This is
00:58:01
fire. This is the atom splitting.
00:58:03
>> Hey I'm I'm not even here really. No
00:58:07
>> we'd like to thank Chris's digital copy
00:58:09
for being here. And now on the count of
00:58:11
three the hologram will disappear.
00:58:14
Uh, I this is what I was just curious
00:58:15
about you hanging out like what do you
00:58:18
consume live streaming shows? Do you get
00:58:21
into shows with your girlfriend or
00:58:23
friends or what do you what do you
00:58:25
what's a day off for you to go to movie
00:58:27
theaters by yourself or what do you do?
00:58:28
>> I mean I I Hey, I love my Apple TV.
00:58:33
>> All right. So, you're watching
00:58:34
Neighbors.
00:58:35
>> When I travel, I I you know, just some
00:58:38
[ __ ] spoiled rich [ __ ] I have the
00:58:41
Apple TV hooked up in every hotel room
00:58:43
I'm in so I can watch my shows.
00:58:46
>> What are your shows? Slow Horses. Uh
00:58:50
uh I'm I'm waiting for I'm watching
00:58:53
Euphoria right now.
00:58:55
>> I'm watching Euphoria, too. Yeah.
00:58:57
>> Don't Don't spoil it. I haven't seen
00:58:59
last one, but
00:59:02
>> I'm only as far as everybody else.
00:59:05
I like that it's every Sunday. I like
00:59:07
that you can't jump ahead.
00:59:08
>> It's like I didn't see it this week.
00:59:09
What? She's a nun? No.
00:59:13
>> She has huge boobs again.
00:59:17
>> Has anyone watched The Pit?
00:59:21
>> HBO Max, but
00:59:23
>> I don't really see hospital shows, but
00:59:25
this one is kind of extra extra.
00:59:27
>> It's pretty special.
00:59:28
>> I I want The Pit, but it's just Brad Pit
00:59:30
telling girls they can't spend the
00:59:31
night.
00:59:37
I want to watch that show.
00:59:40
>> Whenever
00:59:41
Brad Pitt is on TV and my my wife's just
00:59:44
over there and I just go, I don't I
00:59:45
don't get it. I mean, really, there's
00:59:46
not much going on with him. I mean, is
00:59:48
that considered handsome? You know,
00:59:52
>> I don't see it.
00:59:52
>> I remember being at a party. You ever
00:59:54
been in a room with [ __ ] P?
00:59:57
>> So, you're in a you're at a party,
00:59:59
right?
01:00:00
>> And Obama,
01:00:01
>> you meet a you meet a woman. woman talks
01:00:03
to you like this, right?
01:00:06
>> When Brad Pitt walks in the room, every
01:00:09
woman takes a step and a half back from
01:00:13
whatever guy she's talking to.
01:00:17
Like every woman's like kind of aware
01:00:21
with like it's like when a pitbull gets
01:00:23
loose in a neighborhood. Like every
01:00:25
woman knows exactly where the [ __ ] pit
01:00:28
is in the room. And if I have a chance,
01:00:32
I'm not going to [ __ ] it up tonight over
01:00:36
Chris Rock.
01:00:39
>> They get a little bit
01:00:40
>> and then he gets a woman or he leaves
01:00:42
the party and then the girl starts
01:00:44
talking to you normal again. Hey. Oh
01:00:46
yeah.
01:00:47
>> Is this kind of
01:00:48
>> happened at least twice to me? Is this
01:00:50
also a tell when if Brad Pit comes in, a
01:00:52
woman might just kind of just do this?
01:00:54
>> I mean,
01:00:55
>> you know, just a subtle
01:00:56
>> just clean it up a little bit.
01:00:57
>> Just kind of clean it up a little bit.
01:00:59
>> Yeah.
01:00:59
>> You ever seen that?
01:01:00
>> I I've seen it. Yeah. There they kind of
01:01:02
let you know like, hey, if he even looks
01:01:05
this way.
01:01:06
>> Yeah.
01:01:08
>> I'm going to kick you down and fly the
01:01:09
stairs.
01:01:11
>> Immediately in a wood chipper.
01:01:13
>> I'm a huge FAN. I
01:01:14
>> HE'S A GREAT GUY. He's a great He's a a
01:01:16
great guy and a great actor. Chris, you
01:01:19
remember when uh
01:01:20
>> well, Marcy's here, but Marcy would
01:01:22
bring Carolyn Betetta around the office
01:01:24
at SNL and Carolyn Bet was so stunning
01:01:27
and we all kind of had a crush on her
01:01:28
and then we got the news she's dating
01:01:30
JFK Jr. We're all like, "Oh, that's her
01:01:33
type." Oh,
01:01:35
>> the kind of guy every person in the
01:01:38
world loves. I thought she'd be a little
01:01:39
more interesting.
01:01:44
>> Thought she'd like squirly broke
01:01:46
writers.
01:01:46
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I I remember. Yeah.
01:01:51
So,
01:01:51
>> I went I went out with her roommate for
01:01:53
a minute. Yeah.
01:01:54
>> You what? You went out with her?
01:01:55
>> Oh, really?
01:01:56
>> What?
01:01:56
>> H
01:01:57
>> Yeah. Anyway,
01:01:58
>> plot thickening.
01:01:59
>> Plot thickening. That's as far as it
01:02:02
got. Yeah. It was
01:02:03
>> I'm going to just try to mention a
01:02:05
celebrity and see if you've had a
01:02:06
>> I'm not that guy. I'm not.
01:02:08
>> No, you're It's just cuz you go.
01:02:09
>> It's not. But I don't do that in my act.
01:02:11
But should I
01:02:11
>> Well, people like you. I mean, and they
01:02:13
want to hang out with you. That's all.
01:02:14
>> I like you.
01:02:16
>> I mean,
01:02:18
We We get to We're hanging out with you
01:02:20
right now.
01:02:20
>> We're hanging out. This is um
01:02:22
>> This is fun.
01:02:23
>> This is the most fun you've had today,
01:02:24
right?
01:02:24
>> This is kind of the most fun I'm gonna
01:02:26
Well, maybe later, huh?
01:02:29
>> Uh
01:02:30
>> who's over there?
01:02:32
>> Yeah. All right. Well, Dan, any further
01:02:34
any last questions for our good friend?
01:02:37
>> Um just Okay. Give me just quick quick
01:02:39
>> What do you want? What do you want?
01:02:40
Anything?
01:02:40
>> Adam Sandler. What What is with that
01:02:42
guy? Oh, I call him Adam Sandler Claus
01:02:45
cuz uh
01:02:48
>> cuz the
01:02:48
>> I love that guy. That's my It's weird. I
01:02:51
realized Adam Sandler might be my oldest
01:02:53
friend. Like,
01:02:54
>> excuse me.
01:02:55
>> That's right. Cuz it was pre
01:02:57
>> Well, cuz we know
01:02:59
>> I knew him before I got on SNL. We were
01:03:02
doing
01:03:03
>> the last thing you did at the Kennedy
01:03:04
Center when they were vetting.
01:03:06
>> Oh, yeah. You knew him before?
01:03:07
>> Yeah. I knew I knew Adam like a year and
01:03:10
a half, two years in the standup. So
01:03:13
I've known Adam like 40 years or
01:03:15
something.
01:03:16
>> That part of the story that you told
01:03:17
about Adam was really touched me. It was
01:03:19
so sweet.
01:03:20
>> Well,
01:03:20
>> just at the club and then the
01:03:22
>> it's like okay I'll tell the story
01:03:24
again. So, at any comedy club, uh, you
01:03:27
start stacking chairs that first is the
01:03:31
privilege is to just be allowed in the
01:03:33
club
01:03:34
>> and then, okay, we're going to let you,
01:03:37
uh, clean off tables and then, okay,
01:03:40
we're going to give you late night spots
01:03:43
during the week
01:03:44
>> so you can go on at one o'clock in the
01:03:46
morning on a Wednesday, right? And then
01:03:50
you get week spot spots during the week.
01:03:52
And then the greatest thing you can do
01:03:55
after a couple of years of working is
01:03:57
they let you work the weekends,
01:03:59
>> right?
01:03:59
>> Mhm.
01:04:00
>> So, and that is like you're a top comic,
01:04:03
right?
01:04:03
>> Right.
01:04:04
>> And so I'm at the club
01:04:08
>> pre-SNL.
01:04:09
>> PreSNL.
01:04:10
>> Yeah.
01:04:11
>> I meet Eddie Murphy at the club.
01:04:12
>> Mhm.
01:04:13
>> I meet Eddie Murphy at the club one
01:04:16
night as I was stacking chairs. Okay. I
01:04:19
was stacking chairs. Eddie had watched
01:04:21
like four guys and he goes to this guy
01:04:24
Lucian Hold. Hey, you got any black
01:04:26
comics?
01:04:27
>> And Lucian Hold's like, "We got one
01:04:28
right here." The guy got the guy hadn't
01:04:31
spoke to me in six months.
01:04:34
>> Eddie has that effect.
01:04:36
>> And they're they put me on stage in
01:04:38
front of Eddie. Eddie laughs. Eddie
01:04:41
proceeds to tell me my whole life.
01:04:44
>> Oh wow.
01:04:45
>> So Eddie tells me, "You're going to be
01:04:46
in movies. You're going to do SNL.
01:04:48
You're going to do this. You're going to
01:04:49
like everything that's happened to me in
01:04:50
life. You're going to direct, you're
01:04:51
going to do this.
01:04:51
>> From seeing one set,
01:04:53
>> from seeing like eight minutes here and
01:04:55
there,
01:04:55
>> like literally
01:04:56
>> eight minutes literally predicts my
01:04:59
whole future.
01:05:00
>> Yeah.
01:05:01
>> Okay. You're going to get married.
01:05:02
You're going to get divorced. Like
01:05:03
everything.
01:05:06
>> Mary, divorce. Did he say you were going
01:05:08
to meet me?
01:05:09
>> Yeah. He said I was going to do this
01:05:10
podcast. Yeah.
01:05:11
>> The church lady.
01:05:13
>> So, and um you know, and this is like
01:05:15
the real Eddie Murphy. This is like This
01:05:17
is not Dr. Doolittle. This is like
01:05:19
>> This is Eddie.
01:05:20
>> This is red leather. Yeah. He probably
01:05:22
had on some green leather and it's like
01:05:25
like Elvis Eddie and he's got 20 guys
01:05:27
with him.
01:05:28
>> And he's like, "We're going to LA
01:05:29
tomorrow. You should come."
01:05:32
>> I go to LA with him.
01:05:33
>> Holy [ __ ]
01:05:34
>> And I end up in Beverly Hills Cop
01:05:36
>> 2.
01:05:37
>> That's right.
01:05:38
>> A movie
01:05:41
that I saw four times the day it came
01:05:45
out. I I saw Beverly Hills Cop one. Me
01:05:46
and Fred Barton, who's not alive
01:05:48
anymore, saw it four times. Anyway, so
01:05:51
I'm in LA doing that.
01:05:54
>> Mhm.
01:05:55
>> I come back cuz I have to come back. I
01:05:58
only, you know, I only made $600 doing
01:06:01
Beverly Hills Cop, right?
01:06:03
>> And who do I see? Who the [ __ ] this
01:06:07
white kid on stage on Saturday night?
01:06:11
>> Zabadoo.
01:06:12
>> What the [ __ ] is going on here?
01:06:14
>> Right. I It took me two, three years to
01:06:17
get on that Saturday night. So, he just
01:06:18
came out of the [ __ ] is this guy and
01:06:20
it's Sandler.
01:06:22
>> Yeah.
01:06:22
>> And like everything in my body said to
01:06:26
hate this guy
01:06:28
>> cuz not not only is he on Saturday night
01:06:31
and obviously didn't earn it. The
01:06:33
Lucian, they told me he's on the Cosby
01:06:35
Show. It's like, [ __ ] how come
01:06:37
I'm not on the Cosby Show?
01:06:39
>> I'm a black guy. Who is this white boy
01:06:41
on the [ __ ] Cosby show?
01:06:43
>> Excellent.
01:06:44
>> Going on a Saturday night and I watched
01:06:49
him
01:06:50
>> and I was so prepared to like like [ __ ]
01:06:53
this guy
01:06:54
>> and say and he did this joke about Wilt
01:06:59
Chamberlain scoring 100 points in a
01:07:02
game.
01:07:03
>> It was like the his impression of the
01:07:06
other players on the team. Hey Wil, I'm
01:07:08
open.
01:07:10
>> But he also had a line where they're in
01:07:12
a huddle. Wil's already scored 98. And
01:07:15
the coach says, "Okay, who's got Wilt?"
01:07:18
>> That was another one.
01:07:18
>> And they he had that other one about his
01:07:20
grandmother rubbing Bick's Bape rub on
01:07:23
his chest and he looks his grandmother
01:07:25
in the eyes and goes, "We're just
01:07:27
friends, right?"
01:07:29
>> So
01:07:32
>> I'm watching him do this and all the
01:07:35
hate just left my body.
01:07:36
>> Yeah. And I was like, "This guy's the
01:07:38
best. This guy's so [ __ ] funny. Oh my
01:07:41
god." And we just became friends that
01:07:43
night.
01:07:43
>> Yeah.
01:07:44
>> Wasn't there a moment where he was with
01:07:46
sort of a gang and then he saw you and
01:07:48
sort of said,
01:07:50
>> you know,
01:07:50
>> I don't know. I mean,
01:07:51
>> he invited you into this.
01:07:53
>> Well, he was with all those guys he
01:07:55
writes with now were there.
01:07:58
>> So like Jackuto and
01:08:01
all those guys, you know, they were he
01:08:04
was at he was going to NYU at the time.
01:08:07
Yeah,
01:08:07
>> he was going to NYU. We had such
01:08:10
insanely different backgrounds. Okay, so
01:08:13
he's he's literally going to NYU. I'm at
01:08:17
his dorm and all this [ __ ] I'm living
01:08:18
in bed sty. It is the height of the
01:08:20
crack epidemic. Okay,
01:08:24
>> not this hipster bedsty you hear about
01:08:26
now. Like
01:08:27
>> this is grandmother's blowing people
01:08:30
[ __ ] crackhead.
01:08:33
>> Right. So, the home values were
01:08:36
>> It was insane, dude.
01:08:38
>> It was a crack was an insane time cuz
01:08:41
crack and the VCR came out at the same
01:08:43
time.
01:08:45
>> So, guys would people would do it was
01:08:48
like the [ __ ] opium wars or some [ __ ]
01:08:51
and guys would show you tapes of
01:08:53
somebody's [ __ ] three guys. It
01:08:56
was crazy. Crack was insane. Anyway,
01:09:02
the good old days,
01:09:05
>> Vinn, I remember me and Sandler
01:09:07
auditioned for uh SNL on the same night.
01:09:11
>> I was doing a movie called Hanging Out
01:09:13
with the Homeboys.
01:09:15
Uh, and the director, we were in
01:09:17
rehearsals and I had the
01:09:20
the auditions were in Chicago and so I
01:09:25
needed a day off to go audition and the
01:09:28
director was like, "If you leave, you're
01:09:29
fired." I left. They fired me. Uh, and I
01:09:34
went to I went to audition for SNL. And
01:09:38
me and Sandler auditioned the night, the
01:09:40
same night. I did good.
01:09:42
>> I don't think it was great, but it was
01:09:44
good. Yeah.
01:09:45
>> And Sandler did good. And we both we
01:09:49
watch Dana Ghoul destroy.
01:09:52
>> Oh wow.
01:09:53
>> Oh yeah.
01:09:54
>> And Dana Ghoul did so well I left.
01:09:57
>> It's like why am I even here? This guy's
01:09:59
like the king of this [ __ ]
01:10:02
>> Yeah. Great stuff.
01:10:02
>> And him and me and Adam got the job.
01:10:06
>> Yeah. Yeah.
01:10:08
>> Me, Adam, and Farley.
01:10:11
>> Yeah. Farley auditioned because we
01:10:13
auditioned at the improv and he was
01:10:15
around the corner at Second City.
01:10:16
>> Second City. Yeah. Yeah.
01:10:17
>> Yeah. So, we all got
01:10:19
>> Could I ask you a question of something
01:10:21
that spoke for 30 years? You know this
01:10:23
thing, you and Farley,
01:10:25
>> right?
01:10:26
>> Um because I think I made a joke when
01:10:29
you guys the first day you were hired. I
01:10:31
think I was on Letterman and I did a
01:10:34
thing of, "Oh, we have some new guys."
01:10:36
And I was sort of kidding, but I said,
01:10:37
"You know who I am? You know, I'm the
01:10:39
freaking church lady." Now give me a cup
01:10:41
of coffee. I think I said that and then
01:10:44
you and Chris just called me the lady.
01:10:48
Period.
01:10:50
Every rehearsal. See you. Where's lady?
01:10:52
Saw you lady. Good job lady.
01:10:55
>> Yeah. Same thing with bar. It was only
01:10:57
lady. Only you two guys. Never stop. I
01:11:00
think we have I saw you. I
01:11:02
>> I didn't call you Dana until 2022.
01:11:08
>> Yeah. I remember that day. Hey, I I
01:11:09
teared up a little bit. I was like, I
01:11:12
have a name. I'm a person.
01:11:14
>> I have Yeah,
01:11:17
>> David,
01:11:17
>> I saw Chris on the back of some
01:11:20
comedy magazine. It was a picture of you
01:11:22
and Sandler in the corner and I was in
01:11:24
LA and I I didn't know either of you
01:11:28
guys. Then I met Sandler, but I was
01:11:30
doing the same thing in the valley here
01:11:34
um where Schneider and Drake Sailor and
01:11:37
a lot of comics were going on and Jud
01:11:38
and and I'd see Sandler and Covert and
01:11:42
you know, same situation where Sandler
01:11:44
was great and then we all kind of goofed
01:11:46
around and and then he goes out, you
01:11:48
know, and then he's doing out there you
01:11:50
and then we all wind up in the same
01:11:51
show. It's such a ridiculous miracle.
01:11:54
It's so funny how that happened.
01:11:55
>> Strange.
01:11:56
>> Yeah. ridiculous
01:11:59
>> just to make a living. I That's all I
01:12:01
thought about when I put down my waiter
01:12:03
apron. Could I this be my job?
01:12:07
>> Could my job be doing standup basically
01:12:09
that was it. You still that's the
01:12:11
touchstone
01:12:12
>> and then other things happened too. But
01:12:14
still that is the full circle.
01:12:16
>> You're still doing good Dana. You're
01:12:17
doing great. And uh let's thank the
01:12:19
audience for coming down
01:12:21
>> you guys. We appreciate it. And thank
01:12:24
you Chris Rock. Chris Rock. Everybody
01:12:27
>> see you guys.
01:12:27
>> Is that it?
01:12:28
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01:12:32
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01:12:34
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Episode Highlights

  • Chris Rock's Exciting Return
    Chris Rock brings fresh stories and laughter in a new version of his performance.
    “We learned a lot. We went in some places that are very funny.”
    @ 00m 25s
    May 14, 2026
  • Michael Jackson Encounter
    Chris shares a humorous story about his brief encounter with Michael Jackson.
    “I brought him a plate of raw carrots and said, 'You know, you could do a little something.'”
    @ 04m 04s
    May 14, 2026
  • Tupac's Dislike
    Chris Rock reveals his complicated history with Tupac Shakur.
    “It was just I rubbed him wrong.”
    @ 17m 24s
    May 14, 2026
  • Meeting Icons
    The speaker reflects on meeting various celebrities, including Kurt Cobain and MC Hammer.
    “I've met them all.”
    @ 19m 33s
    May 14, 2026
  • The Pressure of Fame
    The discussion touches on the pressures faced by celebrities like Tiger Woods and the importance of having the right support system.
    “Sometimes if you're that famous, you got to have a Mario Joiner in there somewhere.”
    @ 28m 17s
    May 14, 2026
  • A Turning Point in Comedy
    The speaker shares a pivotal moment when their brother encouraged them to pursue comedy more seriously, leading to significant improvement.
    “You’re better than that guy. The [ __ ] out of here.”
    @ 35m 29s
    May 14, 2026
  • The Jedi Comedian
    Chris Rock reflects on the organized and focused approach of comedian George Wallace.
    “He was like a Jedi.”
    @ 37m 33s
    May 14, 2026
  • Bring the Pain's Impact
    Chris discusses how his special 'Bring the Pain' changed his career trajectory.
    “I lucked up in the sense that... I was one of the first cable stars.”
    @ 39m 09s
    May 14, 2026
  • Missed Opportunity with Madagascar
    Chris Rock shares a humorous story about turning down a role in 'Madagascar'.
    “I TURNED DOWN MADAGASCAR.”
    @ 45m 03s
    May 14, 2026
  • Chris Rock on AI
    Chris Rock discusses the implications of AI in the arts, comparing it to a drum machine.
    “AI, just in my business, it's a drum machine.”
    @ 56m 13s
    May 14, 2026
  • Eddie Murphy's Prophecy
    Chris Rock recounts how Eddie Murphy predicted his future success in comedy and film.
    “Eddie predicted my whole future.”
    @ 01h 04m 44s
    May 14, 2026
  • First Impressions of Sandler
    Chris Rock reflects on his initial feelings of animosity towards Adam Sandler, which quickly changed.
    “All the hate just left my body.”
    @ 01h 07m 36s
    May 14, 2026

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  • Michael Jackson Story04:04
  • Scared of Suge19:16
  • Celebrity Encounters19:33
  • Great Standup36:52
  • Organized Comedian37:16
  • Growing as a Comic38:36
  • Cut from Movie40:48
  • Eddie Murphy Encounter1:04:12

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