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Chris Rock LIVE in LA

May 14, 2026 / 01:13:47

This episode features Chris Rock discussing his experiences in comedy, his relationships with famous personalities, and his upcoming projects. Key topics include his time on SNL, interactions with Michael Jackson, and insights into the comedy industry.

Chris Rock shares anecdotes from his early career, including how he met Eddie Murphy and Adam Sandler. He reflects on the dynamics of their friendships and the impact of their respective careers on his own.

The conversation touches on Rock's experiences with notable figures like Michael Jackson and his thoughts on the current state of comedy. He discusses the challenges and changes in the industry, particularly with the rise of AI.

Rock also talks about his latest film, "Misty Green," which he directed, and what it was like working with actors like Adam Driver. He emphasizes the importance of storytelling in both comedy and film.

The episode concludes with Rock's humorous takes on various topics, showcasing his signature comedic style and perspective on life in the entertainment industry.

TLDR

Chris Rock shares stories from his career, friendships, and insights on comedy and his new film.

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Guys, we got an exciting one. This is not a repeat. This is a new version of Chris Rock
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>> uh live at the Oreium Theater, which we >> live shot and had a blast. Always fun
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with an audience, especially with Chris. >> Yes. And um we're out there in three
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chairs. We had our cameras. Pretty big audience. I mean, the Netflix is a joke is like 18 million shows. But uh Chris
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was great. We learned a lot. We went in some places that are very funny. I mean,
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he just has a lot of stories that involve a lot of well-known people, you know, and there were some pretty
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fascinating pulling some names out of them. And uh God, we went back to SNL again. We we always do that, but there's
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always something. We went back to pre-SNL, >> how he met Sandler. Um >> old Eddie Murphy stuff. Uh where he met
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Eddie, uh a lot of great stuff that I don't remember doing that in the first
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time we talked. No, no, I learned a lot and uh he was great. We had a great time. Um we'll we're going to now tell,
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you know, repeat some of the main jokes. So, you go ahead. Now, we're not. But I
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have to say, I did laugh a lot. He He didn't walk through it. He came in in a
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good mood, excited. The crowd was into it. >> And it's one of those fun ones where you
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just start laughing and >> we're just kind of all over the place cracking each other up. It's great great
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time. No further ado, or what do you call it? No further ado. Is that the phrase?
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>> Close enough. >> With no further ado. >> Without further ado,
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>> the one and only Chris Rock. It's >> almost over. Almost over.
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>> 20 minutes. >> You're over here. >> Oh, he gets suspicious. Mine's w.
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>> Wow. Wow. >> People. >> Okay. Hello. Hi. There you go. >> Can you see?
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>> Wow. >> Downtown. >> This is kind >> We are not doing standup. Just so you
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know, >> just everyone pours out. No, we we decided where's the most dangerous
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place we can do this and what's the farthest? And it took some took some work. What we
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>> Ted Sando said 6:00 way downtown. I said, "Teddy, I am in, brother. I'm
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>> So, Chris, thanks for thanks for here. I'm here cuz I want to be here.
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>> This has nothing to do with my contractual obligations >> to Netflix and Ted Randos." Yes.
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>> Yeah. Three different nothing to do with that. It's all >> nothing to do with my three special
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deal. >> Yeah. >> And a pod. Well, we appreciate you coming. Chris is one of my good buddies.
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>> Little background on him. We did the old SNL together. That's where I met him.
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And uh >> Right. >> Such a Mhm. >> Uh legitimately one of my uh best buds
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in the show biz world and um would do anything anything for this guy. So, I'm
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really glad to see him in general. It's good to see him here. >> Uh Dana's fine, but uh
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>> it's 91. >> 91. I know. I don't like to throw these out. >> 91 Michael Jackson was alive.
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>> Y >> and you just got out of high and an outstanding citizen. >> Michael Jackson was killing,
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>> right? 91 was a good >> I waited on Michael Jackson as a bus boy waiter in 1975
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>> and I would bring him a plate of raw carrots and they were playing the Circle
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Star Theater, the Jackson 5. And there he was. And he'd always >> a plate of raw carrots. raw carrots and
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he would look in a mirror after >> [ __ ] rabbits. >> I don't know. Janet was jumping up and
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down on the bed. She's like 8 years old. I go, "Please don't do that."
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>> Oh, they were that small. Wow. >> Yeah. Yeah. He's probably 14 or 15.
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>> Wow. >> Yeah. >> And he was looking in the mirror and I brought him the carrots and I got kind
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of familiar and I said, "You know, you could do a little something." And I just
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dropped it, you know. >> I felt terrible. That was pretty good. Long way to go.
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>> Joe, Chris Rock is our guest. >> Yes. Um, >> oh, I don't know if we're going to keep
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getting applause off that. We're going to keep trying. Joe Jackson ordered three eggs and a belt. Anyway, I saw the
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movie. No, wait. I'll tell you Michael Jackson story, Chris. >> So, 91 when you came in. What was your
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first impression of >> Sorry, I didn't know. Were you starting? >> I did.
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>> The monitors have a lot of reverb. >> I feel like it's really kicking back.
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Uh, if they The mics are a little hot. Is that fountain? or I don't know. I can't really understand what you're
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saying. So, that's not a good thing, I guess. >> No, it is a Rock, you know about this.
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Are we getting a lot of kickback on these monitors or something? >> If you were a sound engineer,
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>> it feels echoey. >> Uh, >> did you guys did you guys do a sound
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check? >> Wouldn't that be great? >> That's what That's what I do normally.
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>> No. >> Wouldn't that be professional? I' got the sound check. I'm just
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didn't have time. >> No, it's wonderful. >> I left my house at noon.
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>> I was planning on getting there for a sound check. >> Oh, someone's screaming already.
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>> We've just added a second show. That's unbelievable. You guys >> I was going to tell you a story that is
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so uninteresting, but I'm going to tell it. >> Uh I did This is my only brief Michael
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Jackson uh >> Oh, okay. >> sex story. No, this is just my brief interactions. I was out in town. I had a
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joke about Michael Jax when I first moved out here. Just throwaway joke. And then the director of his videos uh was
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uh was doing his latest one, Liberian Girl, which wasn't a super banger, but
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it was on >> the director of Three Amigos. >> No, God, I can't remember his name.
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>> Filmopiles. >> He did a lot of commercials and stuff. Anyway, >> uh Jim Yuk maybe. Um anyway, so he says,
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"Hey, I'm doing this video and we're just having all cameos, >> but it was like Dan Akro. It was like
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big stars and he goes, "Do you want to be in it? You just we're just talking
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and doing stuff. You could just say your joke." So I said some stupid joke about
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it, but I was so excited to be in it. And then I wasn't in the video. >> And then I saw the director maybe three
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years ago and I said, "Hey," he goes, "Do you remember me? I was the director
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of that video you did." And I go, "Oh yeah, I wasn't in it." And he goes, "Oh,
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that's right." He goes, "You know what? Funny story. I didn't want to hear He
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goes, "I Michael would never talk to me about editing, but I showed him a cut
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and he called me in the middle of the night and said, "Hey, who's David
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Spade?" And he goes, "Oh, he's a comedian." And he just had a joke about
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you. So he put it in there and he goes, "Take him out." And that and he goes,
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"That was the only note for the whole video. Take me out." I was like, "Wow."
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>> And he goes, "Anyway, good seeing you." And I'm like, "Well, now
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that's what I got to live with about Michael Jackson." So anyway, we got time
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for one more. >> My Michael Jackson story. >> Oh, you got a Michael Jackson story.
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This one will be way better. >> Chris, we got cut out. Chris, you're up.
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>> My Michael Jackson story. It's a weird Okay, I got two. >> Okay. No, no. The first time I hosted
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the Oscars, there was like a a crew guy, a guy in the crew, like a a gaffer or something.
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>> And I guess he used to work at Michael's house or whatever, cuz Michael always
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did all sorts of stuff. And the guy literally gave me his phone. Somebody wants to talk to you.
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>> Oh wow. >> And he gives me the phone saying, "Hey, Chris, it's Michael.
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>> Break a leg." Okay. And that was it. >> That's better than mine already. Yeah.
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That's [ __ ] cool, though. Man, of words, but to the point. When was that? How How long ago?
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>> It was my It was the first time I hosted. So, yeah. Yeah. He because I remember when he passed away was in the
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Woodman's chocolate wasted scene at in grown-ups >> when we yeah we were in we were in uh in
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uh yeah >> yeah on the picnic tables we went to lunch >> and someone said it I don't think we had
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Instagram or anything but someone it's the rumor went around where I was like
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oh my god he just passed away >> and I remember Mama Rosone >> your mother-in-law in the movie
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>> yes >> was very sad it was hitting her very hard and I told her it wasn't for sure
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that it was just a rumor cuz I she had to have a softer After landing, she was totally already started crying.
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>> She was really bad. She Yeah, but that was uh Oh, that was in grown-ups
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applause. >> Thank you. >> 181 million domestic. >> 3,000 million.
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You guys all got a car from Adam? I understand. Did you get a car? >> I I I prefer money, but uh Yeah.
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>> But we did get a car. It was great. >> You got a car? Great. We got
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>> What kind of car? Everyone loves hear stories about rich people getting
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richer. >> You star in the movie. You're globally famous and you get a car.
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>> Yes. >> Nice. >> Everyone's like, "Oh, good for them."
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>> Yeah, definitely. Right. In the homeless capital of the world. >> Don't believe me? Walk outside. Anyway,
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um >> we're literally inside. India is outside. We stumbled into India. Uh, so I heard
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the other night you guys all went to the comedy store. I missed out. It sounds like fun. So you rolled with a pretty
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fun crew. Um, the comedy store is always fun. Like comedy seller when you go in,
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there's tons of comics, but because this is the festival, they're all kind of
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smashed in and when they're lost or don't have a sense of direction, you can
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always go to the comedy store. And so you went in. I heard it was you, Chappelle, Kanye, Louie. Did anybody go
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on or you just go in there to go watch? >> Uh, >> wait. Kanye West and Louis CK.
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>> Yes. The the canceled all stars >> because Dave >> Mount Rushmore of it fits somehow. How
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do you fit into that group? I I don't understand that. >> Chris is the nice fit.
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>> I, you know, I'm cool. I'm like Ludicrous. I'm cool with everybody.
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>> Sure. So, you go in, do you watch or do you just Does anybody go on? Dave went
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on uh Shane Gillis, too. Shane Gillis, >> another another home run hitter.
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>> He's doing very well. >> He's doing all right. So, yeah, Dave
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went on Shane. Uh Louie, then me, then Dave comes on and brings out Kanye. >> What What was his McDonald's bit?
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people. I mean, Kanye's like uh I I remember when people would do Letterman and he was just so famous. It was
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somebody said it was like sitting next to a $5 bill, you know? >> Yeah. >> And Kanye, you don't like you're like,
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is that a wax figure of Kanye? Like he's just that famous. >> Like, is that the real guy?
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>> Yeah. Is that the real guy? Yeah. >> And what does he say up there?
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>> He's not saying much. >> Yeah. >> He gets away with low effort
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>> right now. He's not saying much, >> but he's a he's a fire brand
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>> talking about his love of Seinfeld. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's funny. One of us was at the
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chateau, >> Chris. I was at the chateau and about two months ago and then a girl walked by
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and I go, "Who?" I said, "Some lady just walked by in a full yoga or ballerina
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outfit." >> And then I go, "I wonder if there's something going on here." And then I saw
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Kanye and I go, "Oh, that's his wife, right?" Yeah. Yeah. >> And it kind of made sense like this is
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she dresses in a unique like she's always going to the Met or something. >> Yeah. But it's weird if you talk to her,
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she's so smart. >> It's like talking to Diane Sawyer. >> Really?
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>> With huge tits. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Let's all think visualize that for
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a second. like like she's like, >> "Yeah, I got it." >> Good.
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>> Beautiful. >> I kind of when you meet him, I met him at SNL on the 40th and him and Kim came
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around and they both had deep blue eyes and I just thought, "Shit, I guess they
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have blue eyes." I didn't think they had contacts. It was really weird.
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>> Yeah, that was just a blue-eyed night, you know. >> Yeah. Remember when Do you remember when
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I'm doing Chris Farley? You remember when he was going to attack me and Mike?
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We were doing Wayne's World. We had Kanye. He they had people holding him back like he was gonna attack us.
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>> I remember that. >> Was it a joke or was it >> It was only 10 years ago.
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>> Was he mad? >> No, he was fake mad. He was great in the sketch. It was like
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>> Oh, did he host? >> No, no, it was the 40th at the end of the anniversary. Sorry.
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>> I didn't make the 50th. The plane plane was late. So >> Oh, are you going to go to the 60th?
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>> Lauren will be 112. It's that thing of like uh you know Lauren always said don't stop. He always
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said that to me. You never stop. And he said Sydney Pouier told that to him >> and then he stopped.
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>> Did Sydney Poier stop? >> I got nothing. >> This is podcasting paid.
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>> I did a song with Kanye. I did. Anyway. Anyway. >> Well, what do you mean you did?
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>> Let's hear a couple bars. >> No, no, no. I just I'm on one of those
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albums. one or two of them. >> Do you talk or do you say did you rap? >> I just talked. I just talked in this
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song called Blame Game and um >> yeah, >> a song called Blame Game. Uh he coached
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me two 4hour sessions in the studio that he cut down to about three minutes or two minutes
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>> and yeah, he's kind of a genius. So, you know, whatever I did that. Is it hard to
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stay focused talking to him or is he he's probably interesting guy, right? >> Oh, no. He's very interesting guy.
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>> No, he did he did something that was brilliant. I don't know if he was the
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first one, but he'd have people sampling beats and rhythms and stuff and he would
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just walk around, listen, do it, change that, do that, get this, go with that, you know. So, he's got an ear,
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>> When you talk about you did top five the movie, are your top five rappers the
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same top five as they were when you filmed? >> My top five rappers, it probably changed
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since top five the movie. I don't know. Uh I would put Kanye number one. Uh I
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would I don't know. Kanye, I'm really I'm really loving Kendrick. Uh I
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the the mo Kanye Kendrick I mean God top five. >> Mhm. >> Uh Tupac didn't like me.
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>> One hour. >> Uh >> wait a minute. That's a chapter. Tupac
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didn't like me. >> Tupac did not like me. >> I didn't hear that. That's
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>> see eye to eye on everything. Uh Snoop. >> Snoop. very very underrated but he's could get
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everybody up. >> JCole, >> he's the most popular man in America.
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>> Okay. >> And then >> does Eminem get any sugar? >> Then Jay-Z,
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>> then Eminem. >> Then >> interesting. Just on the >> ice cubed then Eminem.
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>> I like Eminem. Eminem's fine. >> Yeah. >> Eminem's to be listened to. You know
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what I mean? Eminem is strictly for your car. He's not like What? What could you and Tupac not get
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along about? That sounds so funny. >> It was weird. It was um >> cuz I had the same problem. It was just
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>> I rubbed him wrong. >> I mean, a you know, it's always the same
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[ __ ] [ __ ] the same girls, right? That's the first, right? >> Like two, it's always like ah I saw
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whatever, right? >> He he always won that battle. But um no, I remember I um one year at the MTV
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awards, I presented some award. >> Uh oh. >> And uh Suge Knight was in the audience
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and I did like some joke about Suge or whatever the [ __ ] And then there was the afterparty at uh Bryant Park
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>> and you know and I just had that special uh bring the pain and Kanye and
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>> not Kanye and Tupac was like what's up with all that [ __ ] and black people
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[ __ ] like like and he kind of >> he kind of stepped to me but I didn't
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Tupac was not that big. Everybody he he photographs big but he's not that big. I
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was like, you know, I was pretty skinn I'm still pretty skinny. So, a skinny
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guy can't wait to fight a skinny guy. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. >> You're like, really?
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Uh, but not nothing happened. Nothing happened, but we definitely had a little like,
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>> you know, >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> There was definitely some mean mugging
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going on. And I remember that and I just remember that night everybody was scared
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of Suge and like like Eric B. You remember Eric B and Rock Kim? >> And Eric,
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>> it's like Eric B used to live in my neighborhood and he was such a big drug
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dealer that he uh like before he had a record out, the guy had a Rolls-Royce on [ __ ]
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on like Myrtle Avenue. Okay. Like that kind of drug dealer. >> That's good.
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>> And he was like, "Why'd you talk about Suge?" I'm like, "If this guy is scared
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of Suge, >> yeah, >> we're all in trouble." Like >> I think even white people knew to be
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scared of sugar. >> Hammer was like, "Why' you do that?" >> Hammer.
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>> Hammer. >> MC Hammer. >> MC Hammer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> MC Hammer.
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>> I've seen I've met them all. >> Yeah. >> I'm like Black Gump, man. I've met them
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all. >> I've been through every so many weird eras of show >> Eddie Murphy, Michael Jackson.
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>> Did does anyone you >> Kurt Cobain? We didn't meet. >> We met Kurt.
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>> Oh, you did meet Kurt. Oh, wow. >> You were there. We met Kurt. >> Yeah, I hosted the MTV Music Awards when
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they were on. Oh, yeah. >> Where the guy threw the bass up and almost fell on his head.
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>> Hey, man. I once went to a black church with Courtney Love. Okay. >> Now, black women get mad when they see
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you with a white girl anytime. But when you walk into a black church with Courtney Love,
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>> what were you thinking? >> Whose idea was it? >> They're like literally cursing like,
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"WHAT THE WHAT THE GODDAMN [ __ ] IS GOING ON?" >> What the godamn [ __ ]
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Ah, >> yeah. I remember Kurt and Courtney sitting on the on the ground by the page
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desk in that hallway just between songs and just hanging out on the floor. Uh the I think they they were in music
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twice >> and one time I definitely remember that I definitely seeing them in the
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cafeteria and we had dinner after they rehearsed >> and just but you didn't know. I mean no
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one knew it was big the second time they came on. They were a bigger deal. But it's definitely fun when you're back
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there and you see all the hosts or music that you love and then they're just
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stuck talking to you. >> Who's the host when you were there that kind of blew you away or nervous to meet
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kind of >> um >> because it's weird in SNL you just you're in your office or something, the
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host is in up front and then they'll say Charlton H would like to say hello.
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You're like what? Yeah. >> You know, I mean, some of those nons don't know. They were all big stars.
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Just some I remember being >> and the guy has always been great, but I couldn't believe how talented Tom Hanks
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was. >> Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Absolutely. >> You know, you'd be at the the read
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through and he could do like nine different voices and you know, and he was reading everything Cole and he was
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just crushing everything. you like >> sometimes you realize this is why they're famous.
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>> Yeah. >> Because you go some people would bring real star there's like a star power
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about them like you go this person's a star and then there's some that sort of
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flatline during the week and I go I don't get it. You even you can just see them read sketches and you go
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>> they got nothing. I mean it's hard to do the show. >> It's hard to read. My favorite was
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Steven Seagal. >> Uh >> oh yeah. Steven Seagal comes on. Okay. So there's there's this um
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>> the legends of Steven Seagal was he was a a bodyguard for Mike Obitz or
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something. >> Yeah. Agent Tai Chi. >> Tai Chi or whatever. >> Martial artist. Yeah.
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>> Whatever. And >> so he's like this kind of move kind of like this be movie star. And
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C C there >> C B was a little strong. Yeah. >> B plus. She's like, "Scott Bale's B and
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he's under Scott." >> I personally really like Scott Bale. >> I like Scott. I like Scott. Anyway, and
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I remember we're he's at the readthrough table and he's at the front.
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>> Yeah. >> And it's time to read the first sketch and Steven Seagal picks up this thing
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and starts to read. And you realize at that moment he's never auditioned for
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anything in his life. Oh yeah. >> You realize at that moment there is a really a mafia
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>> and they got him in. >> You literally shove this guy on a [ __ ] movie.
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>> Yeah. Cole reading is hard to do anyway. >> It's hard anyway. But
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>> and you're in front of all these people. And >> what was the one with Tommy Lee Jones on
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the boat? >> Even Trump's like, "Pick it up." You know, >> pick it up. So it, you know, when we
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were when he came on, uh Kevin and I did Hansen Fron at the read through. Thank you.
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And we were making fun of Steven was just button. He's got the script. And we're doing stuff like Arnold could
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definitely flick you with his little little finger and you would fly across the room and land in your own baby poop
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avalanche. >> And he's just like this reading. Yes. Okay. Right. You know that kind of
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stuff. So then we're rehearsing on 88h on Thursday just like here. Basically we
00:24:07
read the scene. He doesn't he's never said a word whether he liked or didn't
00:24:11
like the sketch. and he gets on the show and then we cut for a rehearsal. He walks off way off to the side and he's
00:24:17
just staring up the bleachers. I don't know what he's doing. I'll go over and
00:24:20
talk to him and say, "Stephen, are you okay?" And this is the quote exactly
00:24:24
like this, not looking at me. I just wish Arnold was here so I could kick his [ __ ] ass.
00:24:34
>> So for 72 hours, he was steamed about that sketch. And I did tell Arnold 6 months later in
00:24:43
Santa Monica in a restaurant with a foot long cigar with all the Austrian guys around him. I go, "Stephen Seagull says
00:24:48
he kick your ass, you know." And Arnold just leaned back and went, "Is that the
00:24:53
fact?" It's true. Absolutely true. Not a bit. Is that the fact? >> Any blue smoke greens, it's still girly
00:25:03
man. >> You better see if it's a golf story. >> No. You know who else? But I thought,
00:25:08
you know, else was I was a little star struck by was Michael Jordan. >> And Michael Jordan was the biggest host
00:25:14
of our time. >> Yeah, definitely. >> And he was still playing, right? Was he
00:25:19
still playing? >> It was before McDonald's with Michael. >> Oh, we did. We went down and went to
00:25:24
McDonald's underneath. >> We went to McDonald's with [ __ ] lifetime bucket list thing and I spaced
00:25:30
it. We went down and he goes, "Let's all go." Yeah. Like during rehearsal, let's
00:25:35
all run down. >> He was special. You and I used to go to McDonald's all the time. That's why
00:25:39
we're so malnutrition. I ate there so much. We never made that much money and
00:25:44
it was always like scraping. But u I did remember that we went there and there was that sketch in the 50s where Rob was
00:25:52
the announcer. Oh, they're really giving the referees the business. And we were
00:25:56
an all-white team. We didn't want Michael on our team. Remember that? And he and he's like at halftime going,
00:26:05
"Can someone pass me the ball?" >> Did you guys have any interaction with
00:26:10
Michael? Like personal >> I I don't remember. I mean I >> He was so intimidating because
00:26:17
>> he was a sweetheart. He was I was >> sweet, but it was just like he came up
00:26:20
to me and he goes, "Uh, do you golf?" And I go, "Well, a little bit. You know,
00:26:24
what do you shoot?" I go, "I'm terrible. I I don't know. I maybe a hundred or
00:26:29
something." And he just paused and he was very serious. He goes, "Um, well,
00:26:32
you're not very good, are you?" >> He said, "No, I'm not." Anyway, he was
00:26:40
he was The other one was Mel Gibson. When Mel Gibson in his handsome prime hosted, I'd never seen the staff, the
00:26:48
women on the staff get that crazy. Do you remember that? >> Well, I was not there for Mel Gibson,
00:26:53
>> and he is a hottie. >> I did a I did a >> You did Oh, you did Lethal Weapon Lethal
00:26:58
Weapon. >> I did uh Lethal Weapon 4. with uh >> with uh Mel Gibson before the you know
00:27:08
>> sugar tits >> just another guy that really loves Seinfeld right about now.
00:27:18
>> There's a theme there. >> I love this theme. >> Yeah, go Wikipedia. Ask
00:27:26
>> I just You got to be cancelled for me to be friends with you. Why do celebrities who drink not get a
00:27:33
driver >> or an Uber or or a Whimo? >> Why is Tiger Woods still >> see you later? I'm taking the
00:27:42
Oldsmobile. I mean, >> you know what? >> Take the keys away. >> I think too many I knew Tiger was in
00:27:48
trouble. >> He was uh that, you know, had the whole cheating and whatever and his wife beat
00:27:55
up the thing. Then he had a press conference with all his friends and he apologized. Now, right,
00:28:01
>> Tiger's black and Asian and he has a press conference with his friends and
00:28:05
none of them are black or Asian. >> Oh, what are they? >> I was like, okay,
00:28:13
>> sometimes if you're that famous, >> you got to have a Mario Joiner in there
00:28:17
somewhere. You got to >> somebody. >> No, but >> Steve Harvey, I don't know. Somebody
00:28:26
somebody come on. It's like not one. >> But if he's doing some things that he I
00:28:33
if he's that level of fame, I think he just doesn't want a witness. >> You know what I mean? You don't want
00:28:39
someone knowing what you're doing, hearing you talk on the phone, >> and just quietly taking in info.
00:28:45
>> Doesn't work cuz he has the money to hire a new driver twice a day.
00:28:51
>> Is that the fix? You drive in the morning, now you're out. >> Well, I guess you should have a
00:28:54
full-time driver. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you can't have a full >> And you're not paying them to drive.
00:28:59
You're paying them to shut the [ __ ] up. >> Exactly. >> Exactly.
00:29:06
>> Everybody could drive. >> I can't find anyone else. Shut the [ __ ]
00:29:11
up. >> But only the good ones can shut the [ __ ] up. >> Yeah. >> Right.
00:29:15
>> And if they're deaf and mute, it's better. >> How you doing, Mr. ROCK? OH, YOU GOT
00:29:20
THREE PROSTITUTES. I ain't seeing nothing. >> Yeah, >> I love fake driving. It's not
00:29:29
>> It's like 1941 steering. >> All right, Tiger. We're going to the
00:29:33
cause now. >> That's what you're paying for. >> Silence. >> That's
00:29:40
>> That was a good topic. >> That was a good topic. >> Where we at?
00:29:45
>> Hey, it's your podcast. >> You've been busy. I can't Why were you at the Met Gal? I was
00:29:52
looking for you. >> Um I don't know. I don't know. >> You didn't have anything stupid enough
00:29:56
to wear. >> I went last year. I didn't go to show. Who >> did you go best? Who wore it best?
00:30:00
>> I went last year. I didn't go to show. I've been a couple of times.
00:30:02
>> Do you wear something weird or just a tux? >> Um just a tux. Just a tux. I've been a
00:30:07
couple of times. I don't I still don't know what it's for. >> Is there anything after those stairs?
00:30:15
Because once they get to that, >> I would just go home. >> Yeah. This this it's nothing. Like I got
00:30:23
invited last year and the year before that I was like trying to save a relationship.
00:30:30
>> Oh. >> Oh, really interesting. >> Hey, maybe if I take her to the Met
00:30:35
Ball. Nope. >> Yeah. >> Maybe if maybe I'm going to take you around more famous people. That's the
00:30:43
tough one. >> Yeah. Yeah. What goes on? I mean, we've we only see the red carpet, right? And
00:30:48
then what goes on after that? >> You eat shrimp. >> You eat shrimp. You can't eat shrimp.
00:30:55
>> A lot of rich people. Lot of rich techy >> white people. >> They like, "Oo, this is Bob uh Zaminga
00:31:05
and his family owns the button." >> They invented the button. This is like all the buttons on the
00:31:15
world. >> You ever heard about buttons? >> Own all the buttons on earth.
00:31:19
>> Yeah. >> If you're nice to him, he'll let you on his boat.
00:31:23
>> Yeah. >> You got to have a This is >> He gets a piece of >> Kelly Blue BL and her family owns green.
00:31:33
>> Just green. >> Yeah. Jeff Basos has a 500 bill what a million dollar boat. It's like a
00:31:42
thousand foot long. It's got a sail. It's got another boat behind it. He's
00:31:45
selling it because, quote, "It draws too much attention." >> God bless.
00:31:52
>> Maybe it's the five. I do like his wife though. >> Lauren Sanchez. You got to root for
00:31:56
that. >> I've known Lauren a little while. Yeah. Lauren. >> Have you been on that one?
00:32:01
>> I have not been on that boat. >> Have you been on George Lucas's?
00:32:07
>> Have you been on Geffin's boat? >> I've been on some boats.
00:32:11
I like >> I I have a problem with a boat invitation. Yes. >> You'd rather float than sink.
00:32:18
>> Hey, I I tell some jokes and I you know >> get on boats >> and I get on boats.
00:32:23
>> You get on boats. What? You don't have to say the name of the owner, but what's
00:32:26
the best boat you've been on that you weren't? Holy [ __ ] >> I I >> They're all nice, right?
00:32:30
>> They're all They're all nice. >> Your own. >> And it's, you know, to be black and to
00:32:35
get on a boat leisurely is a >> is a Okay. >> It's a great thing. It's like
00:32:44
>> Okay. >> It's like, "Oo, I'm up top." >> You know, Chris, I don't know if you're
00:32:50
working on your standup, but you've got you got at least four bangers in here
00:32:54
that you can expect and this is being recorded. >> But that is a great line.
00:32:58
>> I'm like, "Woo!" >> You go to Met Gallas, you go to the
00:33:01
Oscars, you go on boats. Well, you're living my I just know my kids are grown.
00:33:05
I go out. >> Yeah. I know you from out the house. you would get a tuna sandwich and you're
00:33:11
just in a sketch and now good lord >> look at us. >> All right. I found it kind of
00:33:17
interesting that you did SNL and then you did in Living Color and then you were sort of I think you did a movie or
00:33:22
something. You're just sort of in it like this and then you did bring the pain and I remember watching it and went
00:33:28
oh something just happened like something new happened with that special because I think you said you weren't
00:33:34
serious. At least that's the quote I mean you weren't serious. I left SNL.
00:33:40
>> I went to Living Color. >> Um, >> I was in Living Color. Was it their last
00:33:47
season or close to >> It was their last season. Of course, soon as I get there, the Waynees quit.
00:33:53
>> Cuz that's they were a big part of that. >> That's just the luck of me. You know
00:33:57
what I mean? Like >> the Waynees quit the show. They are the show. >> Yeah.
00:34:02
>> Well, you had Jim Carrey, right? you got Jim Carrey, you got >> that's that's me.
00:34:08
>> Uh so I get there cuz I I I felt I don't know. I just felt a cultural shift.
00:34:14
>> But uh then that show gets cancelled and so I got no job. >> I got no job. Uh no TV job. You know
00:34:24
that that good TV money. What happened was I bought a house in Brooklyn and uh I bought a carriage house that I would
00:34:33
that I would later lose a divorce. But anyway, uh I bought a carriage house. >> Sorry. Everyone loses a carriage house
00:34:41
in a divorce at some point. >> I don't know. I just had a big ass mortgage and I had to do more shows.
00:34:49
>> Okay. >> And when I did more shows, I got [ __ ] better. And at some point my brother,
00:34:56
I'm not gonna say the comedian because that would be disrespectful, but me and
00:34:59
my brother went to see a comedian at Radio City, >> right? >> And like like normal people, like we got
00:35:06
we made some calls and we got some tickets >> and I'm a comedian, right? And I like I can
00:35:16
count on one hand the amount of times I've sat in an audience for a comedy show. Right.
00:35:19
>> Right. >> And I left the show. show. I thought it was great. I thought the show was great and
00:35:24
the go the show was great, but my brother my brother Andre goes, "You're
00:35:29
better than that guy. The [ __ ] out of here." And it hadn't occurred to It's
00:35:35
like when the sometimes the the the kid that's getting bullied gets bigger than
00:35:39
the bully. >> Yeah. >> And doesn't realize it yet. >> Right. So, right around that time, it
00:35:46
took my brother telling me that I was better to actually snap me out of this. >> And this was kind of a national
00:35:54
headliner. This was >> And then like Yeah. And then, you know, it's like one of those Rocky montages
00:35:59
where I'm just knocking [ __ ] out. Like I'm just like I was just I had gotten a lot better just just from
00:36:06
trying to pay for this house. >> Yeah. >> I got really good. >> That's great.
00:36:11
>> So, get a big mortgage. Yeah, >> everyone's like a comedy club and you
00:36:17
know >> Yeah, but I I I was out of show, but I was I mean, put it this way, too. I had
00:36:21
given up. I'd been in a few movies. I'd been on Siren Live. I've been on Living
00:36:25
Color. I kind of thought I was done. >> As far as like being a famous person,
00:36:31
>> right? >> Right. >> So, my concern, not even a concern, I was like, "Okay, I love standup." And
00:36:39
all I wanted out of standup, and this is like this guy's a big star, but all I
00:36:44
wanted out of standup was to be George Wallace. >> Okay? >> Like George Wallace to me was like a
00:36:52
great standup. >> A great standup crushes every night. >> Never want to follow. would he would
00:36:58
come in to the club, you know, the only other black guy, by the way, and he had great suits on
00:37:05
>> and he had a [ __ ] Cadillac and he was opening for bands in Vegas and whatnot.
00:37:13
And he was the only he was the only guy I knew that was so organized. He had like a real schedule. like he didn't
00:37:20
work in the summer like like he would actually vacation and he had houses here and there and I was like man if I can
00:37:27
just be like George Wallace >> then then my dream that's that's what I
00:37:31
took it seriously he was but that guy was like a Jedi >> like he wasn't thinking about being on
00:37:37
TV or a sitcom or a movie just working comedian was like okay that's what I want to be I want to be a
00:37:46
focused great comedian that other comedian Ians respect soon as I walk in the walk in the room.
00:37:52
>> Well, that's what I wanted to ask you because you know Gaffigan, Jim Gaffigan,
00:37:56
Jerry Seinfeld, these are they get with the tape or they get with their notes. I
00:38:01
mean Jerry gets nervous if he needs that one hour a day with his notes. Were you
00:38:04
like that or was just the reps on stage or did you record it and listen because that's very painful to do for a
00:38:11
>> I would record it. I would listen the next day. >> Okay. I mean, also I was one of these,
00:38:16
you know, I'll I'll give this me and my my ex-wife go back and forth. She I I
00:38:21
you know, I was I was a Yes. I was I had been on Saturday Night Live. I've been
00:38:25
in New Jack City. I was, you know, a a mini millionaire at the time, but when I met her, I grew as a person,
00:38:36
>> you know what I mean? Because I'd never really had a relationship, a a grownup
00:38:40
relationship. Gotcha. So as I was growing up as a person, I was growing up as a comic,
00:38:48
>> you know. So I I just I just had IS wider way >> and the better I you know, and it
00:38:58
>> I I lucked up, you know what I mean? I I lucked up in the sense that >> you know, wow, [ __ ] I've been around a
00:39:05
long time. So, um, you know, I guess there's channeling, but I'm one of the first
00:39:11
cable stars, you know what I mean? Like, >> right, >> you know what I mean? Like, it was, it
00:39:15
was like, it when I broke it, it it was not >> from television at all. It wasn't from
00:39:21
normal TV at all. >> It was from cable TV. So, I was like this HBO thing. >> HBO was Bring the Pain. And it got a lot
00:39:29
of awards and recognition. Got awards. Critics loved it. And for some reason, you know how it's just a joke sticks in
00:39:36
your head. Something about peanut butter and jelly in the same jar. I don't know
00:39:40
why. I never forgot that. I don't know why. >> What is that joke? My We were so poor.
00:39:44
My My mother used to buy the peanut butter and the jelly same jar. That's like buying a a a shoe with a sock sold
00:39:54
inside. >> Call it a shock. >> Oh, a shock. Yeah. When did you do Ninja with Farley?
00:40:06
>> I did Beverly Hills Ninja with Chris Far. That was like me being >> Was that when you were
00:40:12
>> That was before Bring the Pain. >> That was That was after Living Color.
00:40:18
That was me broke as [ __ ] >> Just take Well, you take it for the money, right? You just go I'll just go
00:40:23
do a >> Yeah. I was like Well, I was like, "Oh, wait a minute. This guy I used to share
00:40:26
an office with gets $10 million a picture or so." >> It was like what the [ __ ] Yeah.
00:40:34
>> What the [ __ ] happened here? >> That was after Tommy Boy. >> Yeah, like Tommy Boy. But we did that.
00:40:41
>> Um, I had a lot of fun doing it. Here's the funny thing about that movie.
00:40:45
>> I was horrible in that movie. Well, initially, right? >> So, I was cut out of the whole movie.
00:40:52
>> Like, you were cut out of the Michael Jackson. >> Yeah. >> I'm cut out of the whole movie. Bring
00:41:00
the pain comes on HBO >> and suddenly they put me back in. >> They cut you back in. Wow.
00:41:07
>> Suddenly everything I did me at craft services eating a Snickers. >> It's in the credits.
00:41:15
>> It's in the movie. >> It's like everything's in the movie now.
00:41:19
>> Great. >> Brought in like three editors. Yes. Yes. Reaction on Chris. He's not IN THE
00:41:24
SCENE. I SAID >> YEAH. >> YEAH. That that was big. That was big. >> Yeah. That That was a a seismic.
00:41:30
>> Now, what was your next move after you got big from Bring the Pain? I mean,
00:41:33
what was your next? >> Um, it's weird. I did another special. I did. I mean, I did Here's the weird
00:41:39
thing. I'm just like, I'm getting I can I'm hanging with Madonna and uh
00:41:47
So, I'm with Madonna, right? And >> yeah, >> whatever. And you're hanging with her.
00:41:54
>> I'm hanging. >> Okay. And uh she pulls out, she's getting
00:41:59
ready to do a special in Cuba. I'm really I'm literally right next to her.
00:42:06
She calls her manager or somebody and she cancels the special in Cuba. Really la last moment thing, right?
00:42:16
So, I know how much money she's getting and I offer I call up Chris Albre at HBO go
00:42:28
I'll do I'll do a special right now but I got to get the same money >> and
00:42:36
>> and I GOT IT. >> [ __ ] >> WOW. SO, >> so whatever it was, you could imagine.
00:42:45
But before that, I probably got 20 grand for Bring the Pain. Like, no comedian made any money
00:42:52
to do it. >> They're like, "Take Madonna's money. Give me that money."
00:42:56
>> Yeah. >> But you did you shoot it in Cuba? >> We No, no, no. We shot We shot Bigger
00:43:00
and Blacker at the Apollo. >> Okay, that's right. >> And uh >> Yeah.
00:43:05
>> So, I did that. So, those two specials are like kind of like a year apart or
00:43:09
year and a half apart, >> right? >> But, um, >> but you were ready or you didn't know?
00:43:13
>> I wasn't really ready, but I knew I got it together. >> And I mean, I, you know, it's that time
00:43:20
in your life where >> this, you know, there's a time in your life when you're just a vessel
00:43:26
>> and the shit's coming through you like that, you know? >> So, I was at that vessel point.
00:43:32
>> Go Chris. And uh >> go Chris goes coming through me. >> And uh that I mean
00:43:39
>> most people think bigger and black is better. Bring the paper. That's like
00:43:43
when when they were albums or DVDs, Bigger and Black are always sold more. >> Oh, really?
00:43:48
>> Yeah. It's it's the bigger special. >> Um >> Well, it's good they're even close. I
00:43:52
mean, usually a lot of people have one killer and then the rest, you know, because right now people do a lot of
00:43:57
specials in a row and some get watered down. So then I started doing movies and >> you know Mel Gibson called
00:44:06
>> hello >> Melly Mel. >> He was nice. It was it's crazy when you
00:44:14
see what happens to people. >> And when when did >> he was the nicest guy
00:44:20
>> to everybody. >> Even the Jews. >> He was just nice. >> Yeah.
00:44:27
>> Yeah. I never in one thing. >> Um >> I think I mean I just I think he's
00:44:34
brilliant. I mean you never seen Apocalypto apocalyptto was one of the best movies ever made.
00:44:40
>> Yeah. It's unbelievable. I mean and as an actor so >> second chances
00:44:47
>> you know. No I got Hey >> David I gave him a second chance. >> Hey
00:44:52
hey if they want to do another lethal weapon I'll take that check. >> Yeah. What's your biggest mailbox check?
00:44:59
>> Madagascar. >> Mad Oh, yeah. >> Oh, it is >> that I TURNED DOWN MADAGASCAR.
00:45:06
>> WHOA. >> WELL, I WAS I don't know. I >> What the hell was going on with you?
00:45:10
>> I had I had a bad day. >> You couldn't think of a Are you allergic
00:45:13
to money? >> Kind of. >> Hes No, they wanted me to do a South African accent and I was like really
00:45:21
working on it. I think Sasha [ __ ] did it. Ah, >> but now did you do the first movie? It's
00:45:27
not that because I did Secret Life of Pets. The first movie there was >> Thank you.
00:45:33
>> Hold your applause. And then the first movie you didn't get much from
00:45:35
Madagascar. >> No, no, no, no. DreamWorks was a new company. >> Okay.
00:45:40
>> So, this is the same, you know, I've been lucky a few times. So, you get if
00:45:45
you get someplace early, they they overpay. And >> you know, DreamWorks pays better than
00:45:50
some of the other >> DreamWorks. Hey man, for the Shrek guys. >> Yeah,
00:45:55
>> it's like you know those guys >> Yeah. >> they made so much money none of them
00:46:00
ever worked again. >> They all went like 20 years without working. They made so much money
00:46:05
>> and now they have two more they just did. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So it's like Yeah.
00:46:09
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Shrek. >> I love Eddie. This is how crazy Eddie could be. Eddie
00:46:15
has the studio in his house, like the recording studio in his house. So all he has to do is go downstairs to do donkey
00:46:23
and >> to do donkey >> and >> all right you do Eddie and I'll do my
00:46:30
>> and he would he would make them wait for months at a time >> and at least twice they negotiated deals
00:46:38
with me to play donkey. >> Seriously. And then Eddie just went downstairs >> and I'm out of $30 million.
00:46:54
>> Just cuz Eddie went downstairs. >> The highs and the lows. >> He's 30.
00:46:59
>> I'm I'm on my way to the studio. YEAH, I'M DONKEY. OH, Eddie went downstairs.
00:47:05
[ __ ] >> [ __ ] [ __ ] >> GOD DAMN IT. EDDIE WENT DOWNSTAIRS. >> He's in his pajamas doing donkey right
00:47:16
now. >> He's sad. You've had a big life, Chris. >> It's getting bigger.
00:47:28
>> Good lord. Py tank. >> Tang. >> I think >> py tag. >> It's a title you can never forget of a
00:47:35
movie. Hey man, everybody thinks they're famous and you know you know there was a point I was so
00:47:46
famous I got a movie called Py Tank Man >> where no one where the lead character
00:47:51
doesn't speak English >> you got that pity on the run >> sate >> uh created by Louis CK
00:48:03
>> Louis CK was >> written by Louis CK and a a little bit myself. I got some jokes in there, but
00:48:09
uh yeah. >> What about I'm going to get you sucker? Where's the one where you said give me
00:48:12
some ribs? >> What? >> What was the one where you said give me some ribs?
00:48:16
>> Oh, that's I'm going to get you sucker. Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> Directed by Kenan Ivory Wes.
00:48:24
>> Okay, >> that's right. >> Okay, now here's a weird story about I'm
00:48:27
Gonna Get You Sucker. I hope I'm not speaking out of tune. Most of that movie
00:48:31
is thought up by Eddie Murphy. >> Like, really? Yeah. And from what I hear, Eddie was going to do it and then
00:48:40
he decided not to do it. And Keenan's like, "Hey." Picked it off his thing.
00:48:44
Hey, you thinking about doing this? I mean, he still made it into Keenan's version of it, but the initial thing was
00:48:50
Eddie Murphy. Yeah. He told me he told me he came up with the fish in the in the shoe and all that stuff. But uh
00:48:57
>> I I play the ribb man and I'm gonna get you sucker. >> And it was based on
00:49:04
>> ribs man. >> Like some real [ __ ] like give me one rib. >> Yeah. It's hysterical.
00:49:09
>> It's like the Golden Globe goes to I'm going to get you sucker.
00:49:15
>> Now Chris is one line. He comes in and then you go give me a rib and you're you
00:49:20
don't have enough money. And then you go how much for this? And then you pull out
00:49:22
a wad of hundreds at the end. It's one for a scene to stand out. >> How much for a soda?
00:49:29
>> Yeah. >> [ __ ] the cup. Put it in my hand. >> Yeah. See, >> my daughters here like, "Huh?"
00:49:40
>> It's good when it works. >> Your kids know any of your [ __ ] My kids
00:49:43
don't know anything? >> Not really. >> My kids don't know nothing I've done and
00:49:48
could care less. >> Yeah. It's kind of >> in a healthy way. In a healthy way.
00:49:53
>> Yeah. What about the one you just the last one you just did? >> I just directed uh Misty Green. It's
00:49:59
going to come out. >> It's going to come out in November. It's at 8:24. It's kind of a drama, honestly.
00:50:06
>> Okay. >> It's uh it's about a woman whose sugar daddy dies.
00:50:11
>> Mhm. >> And she's got a a week to get her [ __ ] together >> or she might have to [ __ ] a guy in
00:50:17
Dubai. >> A tale as old as >> it's kind of like it's The feelood
00:50:24
picture >> the feelgood story for Christmas movie family is did it start out?
00:50:31
>> Yeah. So that's yeah that uh what am I trying it's it's it's the best way to
00:50:36
describe it would be a female uncut gems. Okay. >> Okay. >> So it stars a woman named uh Rosalyn
00:50:44
Elazar. She's on a show called Slow Horses. >> Oh love that show. >> Anna Kendrick's her best friend. Uh
00:50:52
Daniel Kua >> he's her brother. Adam Driver is in it. >> Oh, you got it.
00:50:58
>> Uh and myself and a few other people. Anthony Anderson Toeer. Toe for um Yeah.
00:51:05
So we got >> Have you done I mean >> it's uh Yeah, we got it A24. Nice little
00:51:11
art movie. >> How do you directed it? >> People like that like Adam Driver, you
00:51:16
know, they're sort of brilliant at their craft. I mean, it's just very subtle. I
00:51:20
mean, it's it's kind of like >> comedians. I mean, you you got to rehearse and,
00:51:26
>> you know, figure out their moves and stuff. I mean, >> but he was great. He was like, you can't
00:51:32
when you get an actor that good, every take you're like, whoa, >> you know, it's probably like you think
00:51:38
they'll be difficult when they're not, then it's easy because then you have a
00:51:42
back and forth. But some if they resist, then it's a lot. I've been on movies
00:51:45
where people really resist and you go, "Oh my god, this is just going to make
00:51:47
it so hard." >> Yeah. Well, it was a it was a it was prime. There's some comedy in it, but
00:51:52
it's definitely leans dramatic. So, yeah, I got if it's funny, I got a ton
00:51:58
of notes, but if it's not, you know, I I'm going to trust Adam Driver. >> Yeah.
00:52:04
>> Yeah, I would trust Adam Driver. >> It's like, you know, >> and do a lot of the great actors you've
00:52:08
worked with sometimes like after a take that you think's brilliant like really
00:52:12
was it good? Do you think it was good? >> Yeah. Yeah. Seems like some of them
00:52:16
>> like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Really? You think so? >> Wait, what movie was that one? Remember?
00:52:21
>> I did a movie called Bad Company. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Was that
00:52:24
>> Hopkins? >> Oh, really? Tony? >> Tony Hopkins? >> I did a movie with Tony.
00:52:29
>> Which one did you do? >> Uh, Road to Wellville. >> Hey, do you know what he would do? And I
00:52:33
don't know if he did this with you, but he had a Polaroid uh shot of his his
00:52:37
character. His character had funny teeth. It was all about the wellness industry in 1890 or whatever. And you'd
00:52:43
be talking to And then they go speed rolling. He would look at the picture, crush it on his face, and then breathe
00:52:51
in like, and then put it in his pocket, and then he'd just be the character. Did you see
00:52:57
any of that? >> I saw none of that. I swear I didn't >> I do I do remember like um older actors
00:53:10
>> Yeah. >> they want to rehearse >> and do not give them new pages on the
00:53:15
day. Yeah. >> And I remember somebody I remember the director giving him new pages and him
00:53:19
like, "Get the [ __ ] away from me." >> Yeah. >> Give me new [ __ ] pages.
00:53:24
>> Yeah. >> Just for that today, you get four takes. >> Yeah. >> Did you ever work with someone who just
00:53:32
couldn't get their lines? >> I mean, Bert Lancaster, I was in a movie with him and Kirk Douglas, very sweet
00:53:38
guy. Would you be like, "Okay, I guess we're going to rob the train." And then
00:53:41
everyone's just still and quiet line. And then the woman, cuz we got to do it
00:53:46
today. Cuz we got to do it today. Lying. And she would go on and on. Tracy Morgan's like that.
00:53:57
>> Can't like literally like f one of the funniest people. Oh yeah. Absolutely.
00:54:01
>> It's not that he can't do his he doesn't know his lines. He can't do it the same
00:54:05
way twice. >> Right. >> It has to be different. >> By the way, we a couple of back to
00:54:12
Michael Jackson. Yeah. just >> all right >> it's >> like a crazy name drop fest so Matt
00:54:17
Eddie's house me there's a bunch of people but I'll just say the name droppy
00:54:22
name so it's meant to hear it >> Eddie Chappelle and Tracy a couple people Raphael Sadik Simone uh lots of
00:54:32
cool people there and to watch the Michael Jackson movie with Tracy Morgan kind of narrating
00:54:40
>> Oh yeah give me some pity loafers. >> That sounds fun. >> Who you think hit harder, Joe or Joe
00:54:54
Frasier? >> That's great. >> It's just like the whole movie wouldn't
00:55:01
stop. >> That's mystery. >> I got a name drop story about this kind
00:55:06
of stuff. Tom Hanks was telling me that Clint Eastwood will sort of walk on the scene and uh and he's just coming out
00:55:12
there and the cameras are rolling and he's like, "Okay, what is it?" And the
00:55:15
script cyber just goes, "All right, so let's get out of here." All right, let's
00:55:19
get out of here. So he likes to hear it right before he says it >> really.
00:55:24
>> And that's so kind of like Brando would, you know, hide things in the ceiling and
00:55:27
stuff, you know. Anyway, inside >> Brando have an earpiece. >> Clint Eastwood is not Tracy Morgan.
00:55:35
It's not as dynamic as a centerpiece of a story visually and orally. I agree.
00:55:42
>> All right. You got something else? One little more for Chris Rock before we get
00:55:45
him out of here. What do you >> Chris Rock? Uh >> oh. >> All right. Let's just your hot takes on
00:55:49
society. Okay. I have no takes. >> Uh AI. Will it rule us? Will it take over? Be a good thing or a bad thing?
00:55:55
You have five seconds. >> Um >> hey, I I personally know people that
00:56:00
have actually lost jobs to AI. Uh they're in the tech sector. Uh so hey man, I don't know for the arts, put
00:56:11
it this way. To me, AI, just in my business, it's a drum machine. Okay? It's basically a drum machine. You give
00:56:20
Dr. Dre a drum drum machine, it's [ __ ] magic. You give me a drum machine, it's a waste of time. So, I
00:56:28
don't think it'll make shitty writers good because the good writers will have it,
00:56:36
too. >> You know what I mean? >> So, so the distance is still going to be
00:56:40
the same. >> Yeah. >> Between the talent cuz the, you know, everybody's going to have it, but it's
00:56:46
obviously a little scary. I've definitely seen, you know, there's definite parts of the
00:56:52
business that are going to be gone, you know. >> Yeah. Well, I was going to ask you about
00:56:56
LA, too, and the recession in the film and TV business in Los Angeles. >> I I did my movie. The whole movie we
00:57:03
shot in LA. >> Good job. >> Yeah. >> Whole movie. >> They did.
00:57:10
>> How much more expensive? I mean, that was more expensive, right? >> It probably was more expensive,
00:57:16
>> but you know, um >> that's a good thing. >> Not my money.
00:57:21
>> Yeah. I got actually some of it was but I think I'm I think I'm getting it back.
00:57:28
>> Yeah. >> When is this movie coming up? I put up some dough. >> Um this movie comes out in November.
00:57:35
>> Okay. >> When the [ __ ] comes out. >> I don't like the people that have AI and
00:57:40
they have Chad GBD and there's always one guy going, "Hey, can you start World
00:57:44
War III?" It's like, why? let's not mess with it because they if they've read
00:57:48
every book in the world you're like they can probably start some [ __ ] So it
00:57:52
shouldn't be in everyone's hands on their phone which I think it is now. Uh
00:57:57
I haven't done it yet. >> We are living in the singularity. I mean this is the printing press. This is
00:58:01
fire. This is the atom splitting. >> Hey I'm I'm not even here really. No
00:58:07
>> we'd like to thank Chris's digital copy for being here. And now on the count of
00:58:11
three the hologram will disappear. Uh, I this is what I was just curious about you hanging out like what do you
00:58:18
consume live streaming shows? Do you get into shows with your girlfriend or friends or what do you what do you
00:58:25
what's a day off for you to go to movie theaters by yourself or what do you do?
00:58:28
>> I mean I I Hey, I love my Apple TV. >> All right. So, you're watching
00:58:34
Neighbors. >> When I travel, I I you know, just some [ __ ] spoiled rich [ __ ] I have the
00:58:41
Apple TV hooked up in every hotel room I'm in so I can watch my shows. >> What are your shows? Slow Horses. Uh
00:58:50
uh I'm I'm waiting for I'm watching Euphoria right now. >> I'm watching Euphoria, too. Yeah.
00:58:57
>> Don't Don't spoil it. I haven't seen last one, but >> I'm only as far as everybody else.
00:59:05
I like that it's every Sunday. I like that you can't jump ahead. >> It's like I didn't see it this week.
00:59:09
What? She's a nun? No. >> She has huge boobs again. >> Has anyone watched The Pit?
00:59:21
>> HBO Max, but >> I don't really see hospital shows, but this one is kind of extra extra.
00:59:27
>> It's pretty special. >> I I want The Pit, but it's just Brad Pit
00:59:30
telling girls they can't spend the night. I want to watch that show. >> Whenever
00:59:41
Brad Pitt is on TV and my my wife's just over there and I just go, I don't I
00:59:45
don't get it. I mean, really, there's not much going on with him. I mean, is
00:59:48
that considered handsome? You know, >> I don't see it. >> I remember being at a party. You ever
00:59:54
been in a room with [ __ ] P? >> So, you're in a you're at a party,
00:59:59
right? >> And Obama, >> you meet a you meet a woman. woman talks to you like this, right?
01:00:06
>> When Brad Pitt walks in the room, every woman takes a step and a half back from
01:00:13
whatever guy she's talking to. Like every woman's like kind of aware with like it's like when a pitbull gets
01:00:23
loose in a neighborhood. Like every woman knows exactly where the [ __ ] pit is in the room. And if I have a chance,
01:00:32
I'm not going to [ __ ] it up tonight over Chris Rock. >> They get a little bit
01:00:40
>> and then he gets a woman or he leaves the party and then the girl starts
01:00:44
talking to you normal again. Hey. Oh yeah. >> Is this kind of >> happened at least twice to me? Is this
01:00:50
also a tell when if Brad Pit comes in, a woman might just kind of just do this? >> I mean,
01:00:55
>> you know, just a subtle >> just clean it up a little bit. >> Just kind of clean it up a little bit.
01:00:59
>> Yeah. >> You ever seen that? >> I I've seen it. Yeah. There they kind of
01:01:02
let you know like, hey, if he even looks this way. >> Yeah. >> I'm going to kick you down and fly the
01:01:09
stairs. >> Immediately in a wood chipper. >> I'm a huge FAN. I >> HE'S A GREAT GUY. He's a great He's a a
01:01:16
great guy and a great actor. Chris, you remember when uh >> well, Marcy's here, but Marcy would
01:01:22
bring Carolyn Betetta around the office at SNL and Carolyn Bet was so stunning and we all kind of had a crush on her
01:01:28
and then we got the news she's dating JFK Jr. We're all like, "Oh, that's her
01:01:33
type." Oh, >> the kind of guy every person in the world loves. I thought she'd be a little
01:01:39
more interesting. >> Thought she'd like squirly broke writers. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I I remember. Yeah.
01:01:51
So, >> I went I went out with her roommate for a minute. Yeah. >> You what? You went out with her?
01:01:55
>> Oh, really? >> What? >> H >> Yeah. Anyway, >> plot thickening.
01:01:59
>> Plot thickening. That's as far as it got. Yeah. It was >> I'm going to just try to mention a
01:02:05
celebrity and see if you've had a >> I'm not that guy. I'm not.
01:02:08
>> No, you're It's just cuz you go. >> It's not. But I don't do that in my act.
01:02:11
But should I >> Well, people like you. I mean, and they want to hang out with you. That's all.
01:02:14
>> I like you. >> I mean, We We get to We're hanging out with you
01:02:20
right now. >> We're hanging out. This is um >> This is fun. >> This is the most fun you've had today,
01:02:24
right? >> This is kind of the most fun I'm gonna Well, maybe later, huh?
01:02:29
>> Uh >> who's over there? >> Yeah. All right. Well, Dan, any further
01:02:34
any last questions for our good friend? >> Um just Okay. Give me just quick quick
01:02:39
>> What do you want? What do you want? Anything? >> Adam Sandler. What What is with that
01:02:42
guy? Oh, I call him Adam Sandler Claus cuz uh >> cuz the >> I love that guy. That's my It's weird. I
01:02:51
realized Adam Sandler might be my oldest friend. Like, >> excuse me. >> That's right. Cuz it was pre
01:02:57
>> Well, cuz we know >> I knew him before I got on SNL. We were doing
01:03:03
>> the last thing you did at the Kennedy Center when they were vetting. >> Oh, yeah. You knew him before?
01:03:07
>> Yeah. I knew I knew Adam like a year and a half, two years in the standup. So
01:03:13
I've known Adam like 40 years or something. >> That part of the story that you told
01:03:17
about Adam was really touched me. It was so sweet. >> Well, >> just at the club and then the
01:03:22
>> it's like okay I'll tell the story again. So, at any comedy club, uh, you
01:03:27
start stacking chairs that first is the privilege is to just be allowed in the club
01:03:34
>> and then, okay, we're going to let you, uh, clean off tables and then, okay,
01:03:40
we're going to give you late night spots during the week >> so you can go on at one o'clock in the
01:03:46
morning on a Wednesday, right? And then you get week spot spots during the week.
01:03:52
And then the greatest thing you can do after a couple of years of working is they let you work the weekends,
01:03:59
>> right? >> Mhm. >> So, and that is like you're a top comic,
01:04:03
right? >> Right. >> And so I'm at the club >> pre-SNL. >> PreSNL.
01:04:10
>> Yeah. >> I meet Eddie Murphy at the club. >> Mhm. >> I meet Eddie Murphy at the club one
01:04:16
night as I was stacking chairs. Okay. I was stacking chairs. Eddie had watched like four guys and he goes to this guy
01:04:24
Lucian Hold. Hey, you got any black comics? >> And Lucian Hold's like, "We got one
01:04:28
right here." The guy got the guy hadn't spoke to me in six months. >> Eddie has that effect.
01:04:36
>> And they're they put me on stage in front of Eddie. Eddie laughs. Eddie
01:04:41
proceeds to tell me my whole life. >> Oh wow. >> So Eddie tells me, "You're going to be
01:04:46
in movies. You're going to do SNL. You're going to do this. You're going to
01:04:49
like everything that's happened to me in life. You're going to direct, you're
01:04:51
going to do this. >> From seeing one set, >> from seeing like eight minutes here and
01:04:55
there, >> like literally >> eight minutes literally predicts my whole future.
01:05:00
>> Yeah. >> Okay. You're going to get married. You're going to get divorced. Like
01:05:03
everything. >> Mary, divorce. Did he say you were going to meet me? >> Yeah. He said I was going to do this
01:05:10
podcast. Yeah. >> The church lady. >> So, and um you know, and this is like
01:05:15
the real Eddie Murphy. This is like This is not Dr. Doolittle. This is like >> This is Eddie.
01:05:20
>> This is red leather. Yeah. He probably had on some green leather and it's like
01:05:25
like Elvis Eddie and he's got 20 guys with him. >> And he's like, "We're going to LA
01:05:29
tomorrow. You should come." >> I go to LA with him. >> Holy [ __ ]
01:05:34
>> And I end up in Beverly Hills Cop >> 2. >> That's right.
01:05:38
>> A movie that I saw four times the day it came out. I I saw Beverly Hills Cop one. Me
01:05:46
and Fred Barton, who's not alive anymore, saw it four times. Anyway, so I'm in LA doing that.
01:05:54
>> Mhm. >> I come back cuz I have to come back. I only, you know, I only made $600 doing
01:06:01
Beverly Hills Cop, right? >> And who do I see? Who the [ __ ] this white kid on stage on Saturday night?
01:06:11
>> Zabadoo. >> What the [ __ ] is going on here? >> Right. I It took me two, three years to
01:06:17
get on that Saturday night. So, he just came out of the [ __ ] is this guy and it's Sandler.
01:06:22
>> Yeah. >> And like everything in my body said to hate this guy >> cuz not not only is he on Saturday night
01:06:31
and obviously didn't earn it. The Lucian, they told me he's on the Cosby
01:06:35
Show. It's like, [ __ ] how come I'm not on the Cosby Show? >> I'm a black guy. Who is this white boy
01:06:41
on the [ __ ] Cosby show? >> Excellent. >> Going on a Saturday night and I watched
01:06:49
him >> and I was so prepared to like like [ __ ] this guy >> and say and he did this joke about Wilt
01:06:59
Chamberlain scoring 100 points in a game. >> It was like the his impression of the
01:07:06
other players on the team. Hey Wil, I'm open. >> But he also had a line where they're in
01:07:12
a huddle. Wil's already scored 98. And the coach says, "Okay, who's got Wilt?"
01:07:18
>> That was another one. >> And they he had that other one about his
01:07:20
grandmother rubbing Bick's Bape rub on his chest and he looks his grandmother
01:07:25
in the eyes and goes, "We're just friends, right?" >> So >> I'm watching him do this and all the
01:07:35
hate just left my body. >> Yeah. And I was like, "This guy's the best. This guy's so [ __ ] funny. Oh my
01:07:41
god." And we just became friends that night. >> Yeah. >> Wasn't there a moment where he was with
01:07:46
sort of a gang and then he saw you and sort of said, >> you know, >> I don't know. I mean,
01:07:51
>> he invited you into this. >> Well, he was with all those guys he writes with now were there.
01:07:58
>> So like Jackuto and all those guys, you know, they were he was at he was going to NYU at the time.
01:08:07
Yeah, >> he was going to NYU. We had such insanely different backgrounds. Okay, so
01:08:13
he's he's literally going to NYU. I'm at his dorm and all this [ __ ] I'm living
01:08:18
in bed sty. It is the height of the crack epidemic. Okay, >> not this hipster bedsty you hear about
01:08:26
now. Like >> this is grandmother's blowing people [ __ ] crackhead. >> Right. So, the home values were
01:08:36
>> It was insane, dude. >> It was a crack was an insane time cuz crack and the VCR came out at the same
01:08:43
time. >> So, guys would people would do it was like the [ __ ] opium wars or some [ __ ]
01:08:51
and guys would show you tapes of somebody's [ __ ] three guys. It was crazy. Crack was insane. Anyway,
01:09:02
the good old days, >> Vinn, I remember me and Sandler auditioned for uh SNL on the same night.
01:09:11
>> I was doing a movie called Hanging Out with the Homeboys. Uh, and the director, we were in
01:09:17
rehearsals and I had the the auditions were in Chicago and so I needed a day off to go audition and the
01:09:28
director was like, "If you leave, you're fired." I left. They fired me. Uh, and I
01:09:34
went to I went to audition for SNL. And me and Sandler auditioned the night, the
01:09:40
same night. I did good. >> I don't think it was great, but it was good. Yeah.
01:09:45
>> And Sandler did good. And we both we watch Dana Ghoul destroy. >> Oh wow.
01:09:53
>> Oh yeah. >> And Dana Ghoul did so well I left. >> It's like why am I even here? This guy's
01:09:59
like the king of this [ __ ] >> Yeah. Great stuff. >> And him and me and Adam got the job.
01:10:06
>> Yeah. Yeah. >> Me, Adam, and Farley. >> Yeah. Farley auditioned because we
01:10:13
auditioned at the improv and he was around the corner at Second City. >> Second City. Yeah. Yeah.
01:10:17
>> Yeah. So, we all got >> Could I ask you a question of something that spoke for 30 years? You know this
01:10:23
thing, you and Farley, >> right? >> Um because I think I made a joke when
01:10:29
you guys the first day you were hired. I think I was on Letterman and I did a thing of, "Oh, we have some new guys."
01:10:36
And I was sort of kidding, but I said, "You know who I am? You know, I'm the
01:10:39
freaking church lady." Now give me a cup of coffee. I think I said that and then
01:10:44
you and Chris just called me the lady. Period. Every rehearsal. See you. Where's lady?
01:10:52
Saw you lady. Good job lady. >> Yeah. Same thing with bar. It was only lady. Only you two guys. Never stop. I
01:11:00
think we have I saw you. I >> I didn't call you Dana until 2022. >> Yeah. I remember that day. Hey, I I
01:11:09
teared up a little bit. I was like, I have a name. I'm a person. >> I have Yeah,
01:11:17
>> David, >> I saw Chris on the back of some comedy magazine. It was a picture of you
01:11:22
and Sandler in the corner and I was in LA and I I didn't know either of you guys. Then I met Sandler, but I was
01:11:30
doing the same thing in the valley here um where Schneider and Drake Sailor and a lot of comics were going on and Jud
01:11:38
and and I'd see Sandler and Covert and you know, same situation where Sandler
01:11:44
was great and then we all kind of goofed around and and then he goes out, you know, and then he's doing out there you
01:11:50
and then we all wind up in the same show. It's such a ridiculous miracle. It's so funny how that happened.
01:11:55
>> Strange. >> Yeah. ridiculous >> just to make a living. I That's all I
01:12:01
thought about when I put down my waiter apron. Could I this be my job? >> Could my job be doing standup basically
01:12:09
that was it. You still that's the touchstone >> and then other things happened too. But
01:12:14
still that is the full circle. >> You're still doing good Dana. You're
01:12:17
doing great. And uh let's thank the audience for coming down >> you guys. We appreciate it. And thank
01:12:24
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01:12:28
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    May 14, 2026
  • Standup Aspirations
    Reflecting on his career, he states, 'All I wanted out of standup was to be George Wallace.'
    “All I wanted out of standup was to be George Wallace.”
    @ 36m 44s
    May 14, 2026
  • Unexpected Movie Cuts
    Chris shares a humorous story about being cut from a movie and later being added back in.
    “I was horrible in that movie.”
    @ 40m 45s
    May 14, 2026
  • Missed Opportunities
    Chris humorously recounts losing a big role to Eddie Murphy.
    “Eddie went downstairs.”
    @ 46m 54s
    May 14, 2026
  • A Feelgood Christmas Story
    Chris discusses his upcoming film, describing it as a feelgood story.
    “It's kind of like it's the feelgood story for Christmas.”
    @ 50m 21s
    May 14, 2026
  • Brad Pitt's Magnetic Presence
    Chris Rock humorously illustrates the effect Brad Pitt has on women at parties.
    “When Brad Pitt walks in the room, every woman takes a step back.”
    @ 01h 00m 09s
    May 14, 2026
  • Eddie Murphy's Prophetic Insight
    Chris Rock shares how Eddie Murphy predicted his entire career during a chance encounter.
    “Eddie predicted my whole future.”
    @ 01h 04m 59s
    May 14, 2026
  • The Moment of Realization
    Chris Rock reflects on the moment he realized standup could be his career.
    “Could my job be doing standup?”
    @ 01h 12m 03s
    May 14, 2026

Episode Quotes

  • I want to be here.
    Chris Rock LIVE in LA
  • If this guy is scared of Suge, we're all in trouble.
    Chris Rock LIVE in LA
  • You’re not very good, are you?
    Chris Rock LIVE in LA
  • I was horrible in that movie.
    Chris Rock LIVE in LA
  • AI, just in my business, it’s a drum machine.
    Chris Rock LIVE in LA
  • This guy’s the best. This guy’s so funny.
    Chris Rock LIVE in LA

Key Moments

  • Michael Jackson Story03:41
  • Suge's Fear19:16
  • Seagal's Threat24:27
  • Great Standup36:52
  • Growing Up38:36
  • New Movie49:59
  • Brad Pitt Effect1:00:09
  • Standup Realization1:12:01

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