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Justin Theroux Based Tom Cruise’s “Tropic Thunder” Character on Harvey Weinstein | Fly on the Wall

May 24, 2023 / 04:08

This episode discusses the making of a groundbreaking comedy film, featuring insights on direction, character creation, and memorable performances.

The conversation highlights the unique visual style of the film, comparing it to war movies in terms of scale and impact. The director's skill in camera movement is acknowledged, emphasizing the film's visual storytelling.

Guests reflect on specific characters, including Tom Cruise's Les Grossman, discussing the creative process behind developing such iconic roles. They share anecdotes about working with Cruise and the challenges of writing edgy humor.

They also touch on the importance of alternate scripts and how the editing process allowed for refining jokes to ensure they landed well with audiences.

Overall, the episode captures the blend of humor and serious filmmaking that defines this comedy, showcasing the collaborative effort behind its success.

TLDR

The episode covers the making of a groundbreaking comedy, focusing on direction, character creation, and the editing process.

Episode

4:08
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it's obviously as you know just such a huge comedy it's there's never been anything quite like it I don't think I'd
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never seen a comedy like it's also like a huge I mean without any jokes it was a
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huge movie meaning just as far as like visual I mean a fact to shoot oh yeah it was a yet explosive it was as big as any
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war movie you know we we I mean as far as the look I mean been such I mean he's obviously you know does get the credit
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you know um but he's often not credited enough I think with how great a director
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he is you know he is like a real camera mover who knows how to where was it oh yeah where'd you shoot it Hawaii
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we didn't need the authentic background why we needed to see a couple trees cast happy there's two there's
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a thing about a movie in comedies uh probably dramas too it's just these uh whatever you call them word packages
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that just are Transcendent that are funnier as time goes on you know and I I think one of them that's less
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controversial would be the Tom Cruise Les Grossman I want you to take one step back and literally [ __ ] your face or
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your own face yeah which one was it I'm not sure but that's the that's the kind of thing and again like Monty Python I
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don't know where that influence came from but those type of lines that nonsensical thing
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um I assume it wasn't a guy alone in a room or you're together at that point where you're kind of riffing what that
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character say or character uh came out of you know we you know we wanted Tom to be in the
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movie very badly and he it was kind of um he was like well I read the script and there's he's like there's no like
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Studio presence like why don't we create like a studio uh character you know and
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I just had a really bad experience working for Harvey Weinstein and so um on a movie that I directed and I I
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thought shocker and whatever happened to that guy go ahead um I and I just wanted to like I just
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wanted to um I wanted to somehow memorialize that bad experience and um and so that's how I got that
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character you know wow it's even funny just that like that Ray I remember Joel Silver one time he goes
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hey was that character based on me and I go no he goes damn it okay I wanted it to be based oh funny well the Popeye
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forearms and the hands and then the Tom Cruise uh which you know everyone loved the new Top Gun I mean he gets shinier
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and brighter when I look back and I see him now and I look at him in that movie when he's doing the dance slapping the
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ass at the end it's like yeah the guy is really funny he's so funny and he's so committed you know um yeah and I
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remember kind of because he has some really hard charging lines in that in that movie
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um writing him these lines he's gonna say Tom Cruise is gonna say this like yeah
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it is before we had seen him in any of the tests and hair and makeup and stuff well without saying the line which were
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the ones that were the most scary or you really couldn't use it was too far no maybe you can't you know we had sort of
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like Ben's a really smart director we you know if if we were to sort of pile the script up in all the pages that were
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written it would probably look like a phone book or a three phone book stacked on top of each other Ben is really good
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at um we would always sort of shoot like sort of you know an A B and C category of jokes within the scene and then
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alternates alternates alternates we had sort of these alternate scripts that we would go okay now we're gonna do one
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where you say this and so in the edit you know when we could you know when Ben was sort of testing the movie uh he was
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able to see you know oh this this you know went a little too far let's dial it back and you know that could be
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something simple just like too many f-bombs in a row or something

Badges

This episode stands out for the following:

  • 80
    Most memeable
  • 80
    Best visuals
  • 75
    Most quotable
  • 75
    Best performance

Episode Highlights

  • Unique Comedy Experience
    This film is unlike any other comedy, blending humor with explosive visuals.
    “There's never been anything quite like it.”
    @ 00m 03s
    May 24, 2023
  • Memorializing Bad Experiences
    The character creation was inspired by a difficult experience with Harvey Weinstein.
    “I wanted to somehow memorialize that bad experience.”
    @ 02m 11s
    May 24, 2023
  • Tom Cruise's Commitment
    Tom Cruise's performance in the film showcases his comedic talent and dedication.
    “He's so funny and he's so committed.”
    @ 02m 54s
    May 24, 2023

Episode Quotes

  • It's a huge comedy, there's never been anything quite like it.
    Justin Theroux Based Tom Cruise’s “Tropic Thunder” Character on Harvey Weinstein | Fly on the Wall
  • I wanted to somehow memorialize that bad experience.
    Justin Theroux Based Tom Cruise’s “Tropic Thunder” Character on Harvey Weinstein | Fly on the Wall
  • Tom Cruise is gonna say this, like yeah.
    Justin Theroux Based Tom Cruise’s “Tropic Thunder” Character on Harvey Weinstein | Fly on the Wall

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  • Unique Comedy00:03
  • Character Creation02:11
  • Tom Cruise's Performance02:54

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