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oh by the way I'm at the Venetian with Nikki Glazer if anyone's interested I'm
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I'm there again uh end of September and I'm there in November so if you want to
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beep bop over that click a few links and buy I will be at Leonardo's Pizza Place
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in Sherman Oaks next Friday okay that's a noon show I'm going to go to Knott's
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Berry's Farm uh yeah that'll be a noon show I'm going to be at Knott's Berry's
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Farm on the water slide ride on August letting people on the ride August 19th well yeah I do sometimes Moonlight oh
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that's the carnival stuff I do yeah it's another time I will be doing the
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organizing the [ __ ] tossing Exposition in Loveland Laughlin Nevada on the riverboat casino
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I would be face down in a pile of my own Goose early Sunday morning your own goo
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yeah face down I own goo that's what I tell people no I'm not going to drink
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that much how was the drinking last night great I woke up face down in a pile of my own goo that doesn't sound
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good you know what David Tony flash observation yes no one has ever woken up and said damn I forgot to do Shooters
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last night a lesson for you hard drinkers no one's ever woken up going I should have
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dranken more yeah dranken David Tony Hawk is a friend of yours that's all David can I just say this
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before we start Tony Hawk will right we'll cut this we started we'll cut it
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no whatever David because I was mentioning used to someone recently who'd seen Police Academy go like he was
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a national class skateboard that's what they said or a really really good schedule I was yep
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that's what they said I hope that's out there it's funny you were really good
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but brings us to our person we want to introduce well Tony is a freak of nature at skating I was blessed to be in a
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movie with him because I I'm in Arizona like what they call it a beater it's a
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guy that just pretends to be like a surfer or skater but I was kind of good medium but Tony they were so good I read
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about these guys suddenly they're on the movie with me and that was Police Academy for stayed in touch with them he
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did that video game he talks about that that blew him up he still skates he still gets hurt he sells neck trouble
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like I do taking those Falls so many times I don't know how he still does it
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but unbelievable and he's still tough as [ __ ] it's a hard job to be Pro Skater he
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still gets in and gets dirty he's a he's competitive I mean he is driven he
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doesn't uh I think he sees the new guys and goes [ __ ] this like I'm still good
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he competes with himself he just still wants to grab but he will break down this is one of my favorite parts of this
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podcast what it's like to go up those giant ramps and you're going upside down
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and you what you're thinking what are you thinking where you have to grab how
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do you not get killed by doing that I I admire Daredevils I mean I once jumped off a six foot thing into a lake and I
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never did it again I never did it again I never did it again let me tell you when you do those ramps when you're up
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there doing half pipes in the middle of the trick it's about a second and away when you're
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doing your next trick so once you realize you've completed it and you're
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starting to land you have to think where do I go for the next trick and then how
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do I get my weight shifted then you go up and then you go oh this one this one I have to land here because I have to go
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to the corner and jump the [ __ ] Gap it's it's so crazy and they do eight ten
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tricks in a row and I can't believe the thinking that goes on you got to do it
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so many times we're going to talk all about his his career as uh is he the goat is he kind of the goat I
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think he's no time of skateboarding Tiger Woods or scratchy there's some
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that are sort of nobody argues and that's his real name I understand because it is kind of the coolest name
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if you're trying to Brand things for like eighth grade kids Tony Hawk and he
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incredibly nice guy really really smart about anything to do with flying around on a skateboard and as an entrepreneur
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he is a brand he's a global brand and he had just done his first thing on SNL
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when we talked to him yes tied it all together news on seven seconds therefore he's part of our
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podcast sorry now you're on it's called slim connections episode you [ __ ] up
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you're on our show now if you've heard of Lauren Michaels you qualify as a
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guest apply now if you've ever said the word Saturday and live in the same day you can be on
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fire what these three words mean you're gonna be a guest [Music] this is a bit off subject but because
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I'm a great guy and I have great guy syndrome I think for for actresses I don't think it's fair that every article
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they're like Mimi Rogers 67. they always put their name and then their age and I
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do not fail to do that with men they do it for men too but I think it's mostly
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women and that's when I notice it and I go why does that matter and that should
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be eradicated because it doesn't matter you can look it up if you want to know
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right I think they'll eradicate it if we become anything I mean I can't remember
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they're still doing that when they don't do anything else it's like that one
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seems a little more let's put a let's put a billboard and say stop putting the
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ages of women I got a lot of time in life especially in the ax world like if you're thinking
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of hiring someone that's just in the back your head you go oh that's the
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right age or oh no that feel whatever just it sends a weird message immediately and it doesn't need to be an
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article and I know anyway take it easy thank you you're free to look at my age
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uh he's uh you know I I the age thing one is always gives a sense of humor about it and I have a dermatologist
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who's I think he's like 85. I said how old are you guys I'm 106. that's a
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standard answer that's a good way to say it just to say it he's a guy check my
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skin and every and he had a woman with a clipboard and kept going age related he's got a microscope age related I mean
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you have to say age related can I have something age related dude I've done that on this podcast before
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Dick Tony we might not get to you but that's fine I listen to the show anyway
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so I'm just here fast you know how it works so many questions for you it's gonna
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it's gonna be a two-parter so I go to this uh high-end restaurant koi and um
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koi which is basically sponsored by us 72. back in the day yeah they moved it when people were like hovering with oh
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yeah that's right a good place and then catch took them uh this guy was there
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and he goes hey this is my buddy he's a plastic surgeon he works in town and and
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he's already looking at me and I was of course a little buzzed naturally because
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it was night time so I had a little louder so so I I get on there and I go and I'm
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just standing at the table so I go the worst question what would you do to me and he like slowly looks at me like
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RoboCop I go no no no and he goes well and I go no and he goes listen here's
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he's got a lot of bullets if you want just the top nine things that are like
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no-brainers like these are things that are not what do you saying tuck no Dana I'm not gonna say because I want to go
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oh yeah yeah because uh we would disagree no no no you can't you have to just you have to
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roll with it you just get nice work good work that's the key good work so people
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just don't know you got work well Tony let's see I'm looking at you Tony and I
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are about this when is that happening we're about the same age can you do you
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have that guy's number no this guy honestly he was like listen I'll do it
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on the house by noon tomorrow Cutters what like to cut I'll tell you that face guys don't go you don't need
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anything they go we can get in there dig around a little bit this is all natural
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dear since Eisenhower's first Administration I won't give my age but I'll just say I was on this Earth with
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these hands and these feet since the mid 50s voting for Calvin Coolidge look how
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good I look now Tony let's talk about it all right there's so many places to ask
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but I want to know just because I was talking about Vicodin and how I only get plastic surgery for Vicodin I don't need
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it I don't need it I had a crazy surgery I took a Vicodin and hated it I'd like
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to Advil much better hey Advil if you're listening I know I like when the doctor
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goes so you broke your leg you'll want to really pump the Advil the what yeah
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yeah funny you say that because I broke my leg in March a year ago tomorrow yeah this is actually a good story
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where's the celebration no no can I get details on that no this is a good story
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because I know what I did I was laying there on my ramp with my leg was it the femur or the femur yeah what was the
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trick me twist were you by yourself I was not but my friend especially my good friend Kevin
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came over about five minutes later with two Advil Jesus Christ I'll never forget that well
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that all right thanks I might do an opioid at that point you know but so was it was it particularly scary it seems
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like a lot of times people get hurt when it's like perfunctory but it was not
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zoned in as much dude your [ __ ] thoughts it was a trick that I have done tens of thousands of times okay and I uh
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didn't have enough speed going into it and I knew that full well but I was always able to figure that out adjust
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for it in the air and I guess at age 54 that's the time when you can no longer
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adjust for it so easily and next thing I know I'm just sliding through the flap
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part of my ramp with my leg I could feel it just dangling oh and I looked up at another friend of mine I go I broke my
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leg and he's like what and then I grabbed it and I put it instinctually I can't believe what I'm
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hearing but but then in that moment I knew like oh I'm so [ __ ] like I can't
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I can't move I can't do anything I want to rewind this whole moment in time but
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did you hear it as well or did it pop it was all very chaotic the fall so then you kind of really sure how it happened
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but I don't remember hearing it pop I just felt it disconnect wow what did they do with that do you have a metal
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rod down there I do yeah yeah okay how much did that cost the hard cost of it because I thankfully
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have insurance it's a lot it's more than a house really yeah boy who was insuring the
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homes in my area anyway no not where you guys live who do you get your insurance
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from I mean my God it was like Bobby's healing and Band-Aids on Ventura now where did you I mean Zach sag oh sag
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Blue Cross so Anthem that how long how is it now I went through eight months of recovery
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and got my get got back on my skateboard much too soon I watched this whole thing
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on Instagram play out and it never connected my bone never connected because I was so active on it so you you
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rushed it a little bit and it never grew together yeah and I and I kept thinking
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like it's gonna happen it's gonna happen and then at some point I realized that
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I'm just in pain all the time I mean like I would I would have to take a painkiller to get through an airport and
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I got admit this doesn't feel right for eight months in I went and got x-rays
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and realized the bone had moved further away from where it was when it because you were too active I was too active so
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I uh I came up here to a specialist and um he's the specialist in non-union fractures which means it never it would
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never formed a union and he put it straight and sent me on my way and I've been taking it slow I'm finally back on
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my skateboard the way I used to where your phone wouldn't cross Union lines one year later what's that
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I'm supposed to get a hip replacement at some point I heard that let's do it
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let's do it I heard those are very effective and quick healing 55 minutes open to close yep I I've been avoiding
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it for seven years Tony because they take a a saw Yes noisy I heard it's awesome but people I would
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rather go through that than my femur issue no no it used to be much worse but people do it always say I should have
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done this a long time ago I like to wait and kind of suffer it's part of my personality David's like that too but uh
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I'm inspired by your uh healing you know because you had 24 you know things heal
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faster yes but yeah I learned that too you're full court you're full fully
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around now um I'm I'm on my way I'm not I can't say I'm fully you're not gonna push it isn't
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your wife say don't push it anymore because you're gonna break it again uh she is concerned that I that I am
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getting a little too uh ambitious and confident with it so I have been taking it as slow as I can
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let's put it that way so I'm much more aware of it this time you're like you're
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still kind of the old Gunslinger in a way I mean you're the guy who invented
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the sport basically in some ways I mean thank you everything I read it's just
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Tony Hawk and your icon I mean right like not yeah everyone's sick of it no I
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appreciate it thank you what's sick of it you got a point there there's a lot
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of people on our podcast my wife when is he just gonna quit I watch this podcast
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and she she'll know enough about you just through our sons that did that and
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I I just for a second before we get into all the questions I have so the beginning because I was reading you know
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about your your high IQ and you were sort of a difficult like because I'm interested in what kind of brain not
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even your physical gifts becomes brilliant at something at age 12 9 12. um yeah it was honestly
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it was just being obsessive and determined to a point of like to a fault because when I was a kid I just was so I
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wanted to do certain things and I didn't have the the body for it or whatever but
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I was almost fired up because in football I couldn't do football but I didn't play football but baseball about
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I'm saying I could do a little bit of that like I was thinking what other sports you good at because I couldn't do
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everything and I went to skateboarding because in Arizona it was that yeah well skateboarding is a culture too
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which we'll talk about I mean it's more than sure and then once I started doing
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it I kind of fell in love with the misfit aspect because I never really felt like I fit in with my school so are
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you saying to me that are you saying Tony that you may not have absolute physical gifts like someone who could
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just Larry Bird got a basketball and just came up right away Eddie Van Halen got his son his son his brother's guitar
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sat on the bed at 8 A.M and played till midnight right it just spoke to him so when you got on the board it just spoke
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to you and you just spoke to me but but in no way was I a natural the natural you you would do that I would just do it
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but I would just do it endlessly like I would go I would go from school to the skate park
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stay there until my mom got off work at the she worked at a community college at
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eight or nine pm and then she'd have to drag me away until they turn the lights
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off did you ever annoy them because bad skateboarding kids are really loud like they're constantly falling and banging
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yeah it's not a very relaxing thing as a parent watching steel wheels you weren't
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that far back were you not that far back did you have a yellow free form with a split tail
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no but geez what's going on man he's flexing Spain I did have a band was my
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first board okay okay you like that thing what you like that yeah okay let me go back this guy's legit let me go
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back to more Larry King type stuff yeah I do so yeah we want to get into the weeds of urethane and Clay Wheels we
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have a psychological question for him my son had a when I was just talking on the
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way over here he had he just had a comment he wanted you to comment on this is Jump Ahead a little bit the turf war
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at a skate park between the BMXers the rollerbladers and the skaters even though it's called Escape Park so okay
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so what what uh will you comment please on that Mr Mr hog Lucky in that I was a sort of a
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generation before that was happening and at some point I got very lucky that I was still skating when rollerblading
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started to be on the rise because I was struggling to make a living at skateboarding and I
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got to be the special guest at rollerblade shows okay this is a rollerblade show but we
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got special guests skateboarder Tony Hawk here thank God that was paying my mortgage literally so I never had the
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beef I saw it I under you know I I saw it playing out and people were whatever having bad stereotypes with everything
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yeah um but I love everyone so you're like the Godfather though so if they see you
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do you win because you're a skater and they're like oh the [ __ ] King is I
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don't I I it's more that I grew up I grew up too not that grew up but but
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eventually I was in all the X Games and and doing all that and then we were all sort of Brethren the BMXers even the
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inliners um and the skateboarders because we rode the same terrain and we were all
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sort of coming up together yeah so I I didn't feel that Turf War like you said
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um I will say that It's Tricky when you have a lot of BMXers and a lot of skateboarders a skatepark because BMXers
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are silent and you can't see I'm coming you get hit you don't hear them coming yeah because
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the rubber tires and everything yeah yeah so that that can be an issue and so I I think that there's a good
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some skate parks assign certain days for bikes in certain days but I think that helps it seems to me as a Layman that
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the rollerblader has the device attached to his feet the bmxer is hanging on to the device right and the skateboard guy
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has to stand on the [ __ ] thing and it's like seemed much harder yeah there's some apples to oranges there I
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gotta say I guess I mean I would I was such a baby that was when there were steel wheels back in the 60s a really
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Steep Hill yeah I'd sometimes just sit on the [ __ ] thing we used to CAD around down some hills oh yeah at the
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wedge in Arizona and then big wipeouts at the end when you can always your friend and then yeah
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we would do it down really steep grass Hills just so that we knew because we knew we were going to wipe out yeah and
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then we just we might live yeah exactly I actually uh wiped out at High Roller I'll tell you that in a second though uh
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uh high roller skate park can we just finish off this uh young young Tony for a second just your
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um you're just a quirky kid you weren't natural athlete you've you've got a hold
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of a skateboarder from from someone in the neighborhood or you're not my older
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brother older brother yeah and then it just spoke to you you became possessed yes and then where the zest is good yes
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within three years of that you were world class or where were at 12 it was something or 14 you um it was such a
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Quantum Leap I I started skating around age 10 and then got really into it as I dove into a completely
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it took a downturn in popularity so really sort of like at the time when I was really starting to come into my own
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and fall in love with it it was all the world was crumbling away around me um and so I got sponsored at age 12 by
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Dogtown skateboards yeah which didn't really mean a whole lot it just meant that sometimes they would send me free
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skateboards that was pretty much it and then I moved up so no money no no money sponsor I never knew what that meant but
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I thought that was it was a free gear coolest one free gear free gear and then and then that moved me up to the
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sponsored Division and that kind of lit a fire because suddenly I was skating with people who are much more advanced
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and I had to figure out how to navigate that and then I Rose to the top of the amateur ranks in within two years and
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then I actually turned pro at age 14. I what that means is I was filling out an entry form to the competition
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and there's an there's your name and address and then there's a box that says
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amateur and the box says Pro so I check the pro box that was the only difference
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that was it yeah you made money or sorry that was competing for a hundred dollars
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first place okay 75 second 50 for third I got fourth so no money no money do you remember
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your first check for doing this or my first check was 50 bucks when I got third place 50 bucks yep I got paid
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three dollars for my first set oh you got money for your first set that's pretty rare Rob Williams was there I
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think we it was ten dollars I think he took seven I took three oh seven seven dollars do you want to be
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famous I asked him oh I just want to play for the people never forgot that well you're playing pretty well I God
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Rest assault good friend anyway Tony that's remarkable how are your parents reacting to this and your brother are
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you is there a sibling thing like Tony's a superstar well he was he was um he is
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13 years older than me so oh okay so he was in college and uh just kind of watched it wait he was there sometimes
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but my parents I think they saw what it provided me just in terms of my sense of
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self and self-confidence and finally kind of focusing all of my energy and frustrations onto that instead of them
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so they were thankful and they were supportive and they were meant very few parents were supportive because of the
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danger of it or or just because of the culture of the culture a certain dude and you weren't going to go to school
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yeah even though there's a rumor you're smart but we have no proof it says here your IQ is 144 44. maybe at
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one point maybe at least half as high as that yeah mine's incredibly smart he's a
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chess champion that was his thing that's that's what I got off of that to go into
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Skype which was a mistake so did you some of us didn't go pro Tony and uh didn't get four so you got paid fifty
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dollars yeah and then um eventually got my own skateboard model and that's when I started
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receiving real checks royalty checks for between four and five dollars a month my sponsor pal Peralta they designed the
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graphics of it um but then okay something happened in the mid 80s where suddenly skateboarding kind of came
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around again and I found myself in high school making six figures from royalties
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on those skateboards so you're already an entrepreneur you're you're a
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businessman already as you're a Superstar athlete yeah I didn't see it that way but but it would just sort of
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were other kids doing it as well did you have other did you have other dudes or women in the school that were no school
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no that's it that was the weird thing is that there was this Resurgence of skateboarding it was popular but not a
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mainstream or widespread popularity so I was still the outcast at school I literally would would hide my skateboard
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in the bushes when I go to school because people would hassle me if I if I carried around they would yell skater
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[ __ ] yes I was Pro I was Pro and I was traveling to places like Florida to places like Phoenix to go to these big
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events and sign autographs and come to school and I was a ghost can I ask you just a technical question yes because it
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would seem to me the one I watched gymnasts and stuff that you you growing to six foot three is at an advantage
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disadvantage or neutral in terms of doing upside down flips you have to have a bigger you know the math of that when
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did you get to six three uh not till I was in my late teens so you're becoming
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a brilliant skateboarder and you're growing and so you're adapting your revolutions to that height yeah and I
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was still very flexible when I got tall so it was to an advantage because I finally was able to get speed
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okay get get more height and because I could ball up I could still do those spins and things but at Greater Heights
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so your height yeah I can't say it it's helped me into my older age but it definitely helped me
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interesting okay okay uh my psychological question I'm the Layman he's a skateboard is now uh
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when you grew up in San Diego and what was the park in Carlsbad was it big oh what's not uh so there was Oasis skate
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park in San Diego yeah and then that closed and then uh Del Mar skate Ranch was Alaska cool one park in that area
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yeah okay so let's say Tony's remember Vans yeah yeah that's much later for one of
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my kids birthdays I bought the place which one Ontario or it was down in Orange it was like Milpitas or something
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oh yeah yeah that was vans that made him the coolest kid in school that was a good party yeah
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[Music] now let's say because I did get to golf with Tiger Woods let's say he's the best
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in golf that's sort of generally no and you are let's say generally known as the
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best skater uh is it is it something in you that makes you not want to give up number one because you still skate you
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don't really have to skate anymore you could stop and yeah well I never did it
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for fame or Fortune you still like it but those think those things weren't even dreams no I I have the same I asked
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my wife did I ever talk about being rich or famous never I was in the club and I
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just wanted to be the best guy in that club so I totally related but in skateboarding no one was rich or famous
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when I started yeah that wasn't that would you know no one could Inspire them
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what do you aspire to I don't know I'm gonna be Pro no one's making money yeah
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that hundred dollar check yeah and your picture in the magazine and so um that was never the motivation and so having
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come this far and having success I would have never dreamed I still just want to skate I mean it
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really is what do you want to push it down first Superstar I think I could turn to corner on that to be honest I
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mean you've proven everything but I guess it's still fun to be like you're
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still as good as everyone we go to comedy clubs you still want to do as good as these guys you know it's the
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same thing sure yeah I can't that's the thing though like I can't phone it in
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and everyone's watching him I can't yeah and so if I were to feel like I'm not
00:26:22
really of a professional level I wouldn't do it in public or on camera yeah um but I'm I'm just like I still walk
00:26:30
the walk I just totally relate to what you're saying you know when I go to do a
00:26:35
day I I can't open I just want to dominate but it's it's not an unfair way
00:26:40
like you have your peers just to do but to do your personal best yeah yeah and if not because you want to destroy
00:26:45
everyone else no no but it's it's it becomes a de facto comedy competition
00:26:48
sometimes and there's a lot of subjectivity to it when 10 guys go on and we're supposed to be just hanging
00:26:54
out at The Comedy Store doing our sets but also I was like you're the best Setter he couldn't follow you it's a
00:26:59
gunslinger thing right but yeah it's not as much with Dave and I we don't know
00:27:03
well I did enjoy you guys after Chris Rock oh you saw I saw that did you sense the
00:27:08
awkwardness because we were Caucasians I know that you guys handled very well I didn't want anyone to figure that out
00:27:14
but they did right away well they were yeah it was uh it was good we were there to facilitate but um you know I can't
00:27:21
join in on those conversations and no but I thought you guys did a good job I wanted a joke first of all we liked
00:27:27
everybody there all the the panel was cool we hung with them all day JB's funny he came out of his shell that
00:27:33
night and you know finally for the first time poking and prodding yeah the guy he lit
00:27:40
his cigar backstage he'd held it for 20. that went so good I'm gonna light this
00:27:45
up I said JB you are smooth he was nice no we know and we've known Chris David especially close with Chris
00:27:52
but no one since 1990 yeah and uh that was sort of how it came about like we had a podcast we're always together
00:27:59
we're together anyway SNL it's Chris we're all buddies let's put a panel
00:28:05
together let's I guess they want to make the event bigger so why not we'll talk
00:28:08
about it but there's some stuff in there if I had some heavy controversial opinions I would say him I but I didn't
00:28:14
really I just watched the jokes like them said a few funny things but when it got really heavy
00:28:20
things I don't want to comment I mean I want to let them talk and that was why
00:28:24
we're all the same thesis but it happened to Chris and he owned it and expanded it but I thought it was always
00:28:31
about something else that anger right with wife I mean it was pretty obvious but he laid it out perfectly and what
00:28:38
was fascinating to me is that very rarely does the world watch quote unquote the world and we all know the
00:28:46
story oh yeah we all saw the slap and all the reaction and then a year later we have a guy who got connected to it in
00:28:52
such a way because Chris doesn't flood lines but I think the emotion was so strong at that moment which made it
00:28:59
better because it was live and real that this was a more than a mic drop he was working some stuff out and
00:29:07
um you know I he just wondered casually is this is this over now or I mean Me Maybe another special next year we've
00:29:14
all been bullied me and Chris used to talk about I was pushed around Arizona I was always a pipsqueak and I hated it
00:29:20
and Chris hated it and I I'm sure Dana got a little bit of it well no no way
00:29:23
more I got no I got bullied by a grown man yeah yeah and so when you get like that
00:29:31
I can see when things like that set you off road rage [ __ ] because people try to
00:29:35
[ __ ] with me they'll hit on a date right in front of me they'll go on this guy
00:29:38
going to say anything or they'll say that you're not gonna do [ __ ] and that
00:29:41
anger builds up over your whole life and so Chris getting that on stage at the Oscars in my head I was like I don't
00:29:48
know if I could continue life it'd just be it's so humiliating and then you
00:29:51
don't fight back should I have you so you go on and on and will I thought got
00:29:56
off pretty easy because Banning from the Oscars one thing but Banning from getting an Oscar is I
00:30:01
thought should be stronger for a couple years he doesn't have to go to the silly
00:30:04
show who cares go to the Vanity Fair party just wait and watch people walk in they'll bring it in on a platter yeah I
00:30:09
saw him there after the Vanity Fair Park then I saw Chris and uh Chris was pretty cool so I I saw
00:30:15
Chris the next morning where were you I was staying up here and I saw him at breakfast oh you did yeah and he was
00:30:21
alone at a table well tell us what you said to him I just said I thought that you handled that
00:30:29
like a maestro and um he said yeah it's still hard I didn't do it with me but he
00:30:34
but he already had a clear piece yeah you know yeah he has his own history with with uh
00:30:40
sit on it for a year it's got driving crazy but at least he let it all out and it was it was great I
00:30:47
feel like he's I think that was a literal mic drop I don't think he he got
00:30:52
it all out I don't think he has anything else to say right right but I hope it
00:30:55
continues people have said to David and I if we had a a real Feud this podcast would blow up now we're trying oh so I'm
00:31:02
trying to find a way to get mad at it I think that's pretty mellow you want to
00:31:04
be part of it there's a wedge here I want to have credit for that no but what you say about bullying I mean and
00:31:14
in our day it was you just you got picked on yeah they're always picking on me they're you know we pick on him that
00:31:21
was totally accepted yeah there were no resources a lot of it is not grandiose like a lot of it's just the uh the guy
00:31:28
in the locker room just takes the back of your neck and just just quickly just pushes you down to the floor
00:31:35
because I was so small they would pick me up in the hallway and spin me around once
00:31:40
by the way nothing more humiliating that's why you were so great doing 360. you got to think the guys let's go wait
00:31:47
let's go two and a half this time okay Tony Hawk became brilliant because of
00:31:52
bullies who would flip and throw them in the air throw them across the room roll
00:31:56
them down the hill but to your skateboard you go no one's trying to hit me you get picked up like I do when
00:32:02
people pick me up at a party I [ __ ] flip out and to this day it happens I go if you pick me up we're dead for life
00:32:07
we're not friends ever again it's like the most humiliating too yeah and they'd
00:32:12
throw you against the locker I had a girl and that was my mom that's it that's it after I came my pants I said
00:32:18
this is over surprise ending a happy surprise so Tony well Tony Tony um you know let's ask him about uh the
00:32:31
movie we did we have to talk about oh yeah okay well I just so go ahead you guys I'm still so fascinated how well
00:32:37
just to make one opposite one opposite casual observation the sport is went follow for a while yeah you come up
00:32:44
you're emerging right as the sport is going and so you're the first that I
00:32:49
don't know if there's a second or there are these after Superstars but to the
00:32:53
Casual Observer you are skating you're who how many people their name is a brand
00:33:00
it's funny because I don't know I you know I know skating I know some names
00:33:03
but it's synonymous with Tony is at that level yeah well I I can tell you I credit a lot of that for a successful
00:33:11
video game oh that's right because your name because our our game in newsletters
00:33:15
had had huge success they're gigantic yeah that is where you made the most money right oh yeah yeah and so people
00:33:22
would would see my name synonymous with a successful video game so that kind of added to the
00:33:28
recognition Factor well that's the cool thing is that you're the video game guy
00:33:32
and then you're still actually the best guy oh and they can physically do it
00:33:36
doesn't always happen so that that's that's so much power so how did the
00:33:39
video game quickly how did that come about they approached you you got to a certain level and a company approached
00:33:43
you and were you in on the design of it and so on uh so I was actually working with a PC programmer who came to me and
00:33:52
said hey I have an idea for a skateboard game nerd what's up nerd nerd we were two nerds
00:34:01
knocking on doors we were going to console manufacturers we're going to software companies and saying how old
00:34:07
are you uh so this was not like around 97 96 97 so you're huge so at that point
00:34:14
right um yeah well I there was there's sort of a gap in in skating's popularity in the
00:34:20
early 90s so it went underground very much so and that's kind of when Street
00:34:24
skating emerged okay so this game they don't come to you fully formed they say
00:34:29
this he and I went to meetings and we just got shut down everywhere we went they said skateboarding is not popular
00:34:35
classic why would anyone want to play a skateboarding game okay uh and and at the time there weren't that many home
00:34:42
consoles there were there were some but not it wasn't did you go to Nintendo no
00:34:47
so he gave up he got frustrated okay and he he actually told me he said look I I
00:34:52
gotta find a job but um I feel like we've made some some Headway in terms of
00:34:57
putting your name out there that you're interested in doing this and then maybe
00:35:01
something will come of that I remember thinking yeah okay buddy sure and then almost a year later uh Activision called
00:35:07
me and said hey we heard you want to do a video game I said well yes very much so they said well we are doing a video
00:35:13
game about reporting and we'd like your input or to see if you want to get involved so I went up to Activision and
00:35:21
they were working on this game that was based on an engine that they had already
00:35:24
made for a game called um apocalypse starring Bruce Willis okay it was the first game that had a celebrity
00:35:31
look-alike you know their Avatar I guess Avatar sure not the movie but not that literal and his voice and but it didn't
00:35:40
do very well but the engine was perfect for skateboarding the engine the motion in the game so the first time
00:35:48
I ever played what became Tony Hawk's Pro Skater was was Bruce Willis on a skateboard with a gun on his back
00:35:55
doing kickflips okay like through a desk and it was Bruce Willis that's a start
00:35:59
yeah that was it was there a breakthrough moment or an epiphany like how how to make a skateboard thing as
00:36:06
exciting as a war when I played the game I knew then like this is the way it should because you're feeling it I'm
00:36:14
feeling it and it was intuitive but suddenly I was doing tricks right away right so I thought with my with my
00:36:20
resources we could probably make something that is legitimate I I wasn't thinking it was going to go gangbusters
00:36:25
because I still heard those voices saying who would want to play a skateboard game right and when I told
00:36:29
them I had a Nintendo 64 at the time and I said oh we're gonna make this for
00:36:32
Nintendo 64 and they go no we're making this for PlayStation okay there's a million PlayStations out there
00:36:38
there aren't a million Nintendo 64s and so I went along with that obviously and
00:36:44
another smart idea not long after when when it had success in the beginning they called me and said you get your
00:36:50
wish we're gonna do Nintendo 64. great I was like cool and then we ended up doing all the systems and it just did
00:36:56
the first guy you wet the beak on him a little bit or not did he go away for good show business term wet the beak
00:37:01
give me a little money yeah a little taste no I felt bad for that guy oh he's
00:37:07
totally well yeah so you had gross points I mean I don't know whatever but you're you're an owner and so being an
00:37:13
owner is King and um oh yeah I mean it changed my life so it just starts rolling in and then it gets bigger by
00:37:20
the time the fourth game no I remember my first I remember writing my first check to the IRS and thinking this is
00:37:28
more this is more than the money I'd ever think I'd made in my lifetime leading to the IRS the rich pay the fair
00:37:37
share the only way to dinners Tony Hawk Tony Hawk I couldn't figure out the loopholes that was Joe Biden sorry I got
00:37:45
it he gets it anyway well everything seems to be going well at this point Your Existence the game is kicked ass
00:37:51
you've won so many X Games world champion um done a lot of commercials you land a
00:37:57
900 at some point how long did it take you when I saw the deal was that for you uh that was well that was
00:38:06
for me that was my best uh exit from competition so you you were thinking I'm
00:38:12
going to land this I wasn't and there was no plan oh it was all spontaneous that night honestly so you just thought
00:38:20
so just because I was trying to explain it to my wife and my sons you're going
00:38:25
up in the air really really high you're going a full revolution in your body another full Revolution and then a
00:38:33
half the revolution which you know 360 360 180 and then hit it right and that was a little Mount Everest kind of thing
00:38:42
um for me at that time yeah because I had been trying off and on for 10 years um I did I did the first 720 in 1985.
00:38:52
and that was huge at the time um yes for sure I mean in the skateboard world but the skateboard world wasn't
00:38:58
huge oh okay there were no X Games there was no social media so no one really does I have to be filmed or do they take
00:39:04
your word for it I got a sequence of it that I mean back then there was Bones Brigade videos were
00:39:09
out kinda but really it was more about did it get in the magazine so I got a small sequence and throws all those
00:39:16
photos like that yeah I got a small sequence in Thrasher doing a 720. okay yeah I probably saw I think on a
00:39:22
backyard ramp in Sweden so when you landed the 900 what kind of what competition were you that was that kind
00:39:27
of [ __ ] at the X Games that was global television what I said what kind of [ __ ] did you get I thought that's what
00:39:32
you're saying for mature audiences only is that on the video okay that's where
00:39:37
you're headed uh not quite no so you do I get all serious so what so you do that you're um
00:39:46
he's out there that's your question I was trying it off and on I couldn't
00:39:49
figure it out I got hurt a couple times doing it and then when that event happened in 99 it was the best trick
00:39:55
event and I had one trick planned for that event which was not the 900. it was a variation of a 720 and I I made that
00:40:03
early on so I had 10 minutes to kill in this event and the announcer the live announcer for the audience that was
00:40:12
there said why don't we see one of those 900s and I was like great uh like now
00:40:18
I'm on the spot crowd okay yeah I watched this last time this isn't the one where you kept trying it is that the
00:40:24
one I kept trying yeah that's one where you go over and over and you're like the
00:40:28
tenth one and then they all Bob and everyone almost gave up and then I think I think after my third or fourth
00:40:35
attempt I realized that this is the closest I've ever gotten so I'm there's
00:40:40
no way I'm gonna give up it's either I'm gonna make this or they're gonna take me
00:40:44
away are you going to get hurt or something what do you think are you thinking right as you take off like to
00:40:48
get a height right to get as high uh there there's what are you thinking there's a bunch of elements but speed
00:40:54
for sure it's got to be a certain height to get that much spin rotation um the snap is when the the spin leave
00:41:03
the ramp the ramp yeah you got to have a snap where you you hit your tail and you
00:41:08
grab the board at the exact same time and if that doesn't happen your board just flies away immediately and you're
00:41:14
stuck in space all right as you're about to go where you got to grab your boards
00:41:18
they're attached to it and so if you get a good snap then somewhere in the middle
00:41:22
of the spin you have to shift your weight towards the front foot that was the part that I couldn't figure out all
00:41:27
those years whoa oh interesting and so I mean sorry not not the towards towards the back foot so you spinning if you if
00:41:36
you just spin the way that you take off and try to land you're too top heavy so
00:41:40
I had to figure out how to sort of shift my weight to the back foot mid Spin and
00:41:45
that's what you see me working out you mean when you land you'll go face first
00:41:48
you won't I did go face first the first time I ever tried to make it so that's
00:41:52
why you go I gotta be I gotta put the weight on the back foot it seemed like when you did do it you did sort of a
00:41:56
squat and you it you yeah well that was me overcompensating right but you didn't
00:42:00
leave the board you set the record but that was like yeah interesting wow yeah you um you know because I do when I used
00:42:07
to skate it's fun to watch Once I quit because you sort of know a little bit
00:42:12
about it enough to know which tricks are hard so when I see Instagram and I'm
00:42:15
like God damn like it got so beyond what I could ever do I was I was it's video
00:42:20
games now like the tricks that you see yeah I can't imagine on Instagram or the
00:42:24
or the pros that you see out there especially Street skaters it's the kind of thing that we did on our video game
00:42:29
in combos as a joke because you know you could never do it yeah no one will ever
00:42:33
do this right and now they're doing it has the equipment gotten better then or
00:42:37
is there uh the equipment hasn't changed it seems about the same I think they'd
00:42:42
have like they have you know plates on track shoes people running four minute miles high schoolers you know yeah
00:42:50
okay so it's they're all about the same weight they're all about the same it's
00:42:54
also like when you think about the generations that have come before they the generation coming in now establishes
00:43:01
that oh a 900 is possible or these these tricks these combos are reality so that's the Baseline of which to start
00:43:09
you could even go crazier yeah you know they used to have these things Dana called uh Sky hooks so if that was
00:43:16
Kareem Abdul Tony knows what it is if you if I I was like it was hard for me to when I got to doing Aerials at the
00:43:22
old high roller skate park in Arizona and so when you have to leave the top of the pool that's being a colossal [ __ ]
00:43:29
this is a doctor telling me this that's three [ __ ] on this uh yeah no that's
00:43:34
just saying I am not tough so all with different connotations oh yeah total different meanings it's a fear thing
00:43:39
Dana once you leave the top model or maybe I'll be my dad it's too scary and
00:43:45
then so I wiped out a high roller trying to do an aerial axle stall I think I've
00:43:48
told Tony this before and so I which but to his credit is a pretty gnarly it's a
00:43:52
hard trick it's hard and it's dangerous and so you go up I think David and Drake
00:43:56
someone did good speed you drop off David Andrew you go up out of the pool it was a it was a pool at the skate park
00:44:01
and you go up and you land on your axles and then you drop back in okay Landing is the hard part dropping and I could
00:44:06
probably do but I missed it and I wiped out and I fell backwards into the pool and broke both of us now
00:44:12
everyone uh uh all the concerns skaters go get the [ __ ] out of the ball yes so
00:44:19
because I was laying there yeah and so broken wrists it's hard to walk up from the deep end
00:44:24
of the shell like it's like slippery so I get out and I'm laying on my brothers
00:44:29
we had the Lee car and Andy got mad because we just got to the skate park we had two hours and so I'm laying on the
00:44:35
car on the on the windshield and uh Andy they go get Andy my brother because he saw me he goes I'll just go in the car
00:44:42
we're out of here in two hours and so the the Escape Park person saw me kind
00:44:47
of shaking I think I didn't say anything I knew I was in trouble and then they
00:44:51
went and got Andy and he comes and throws his helmet and goes what the [ __ ] you're fine right and I go yeah and they
00:44:56
go no you got to take him home you can't stay and he goes [ __ ] so he he throws me
00:45:01
in the carnival he goes I'm going back so he dropped me to my stepdad but he went back to see my back yeah and
00:45:07
then I sat there and then my stepdad was buzzed because it was night he was just
00:45:12
drinking this morning and he took me to his clinic and x-rayed him and I saw a crack down both of them around his
00:45:18
Corner I'd look around the corner I go hmm I didn't even go to med school I see
00:45:21
something going on did they shut the [ __ ] off he goes let's sit on this oh
00:45:25
he was drunk I go what are we waiting for so I lay down and I don't you know
00:45:29
we're in a Vikings back then we don't have anything so I'm just laying there
00:45:31
sort of whimpering I was wondering and then uh the next day my mother take a man and do something so he just gave me
00:45:39
splints so then the first day of school I went as a freshman I had two splints but I looked like a badass I had my
00:45:45
quicksilvers I had my [ __ ] op shirt carrying yeah I didn't we got injured in
00:45:51
different ways like my brother popped a wheelie that's we doing yeah pop the
00:45:55
wheelie the wheel comes off chips his teeth oh yeah the forks go down you go uh oh this is just wait so he's like got
00:46:01
Fangs for a while they finally got him you know caps on him and then he's doing
00:46:06
a Duncan Imperial going with the yo-yo boom broke him again that's twice you
00:46:13
guys we're Daredevils Slinky then he got a slinky he lost an ear look I don't
00:46:20
want to go into the Carvey we were roughing tumble 60s kids it wasn't nothing nothing was safe trust me I
00:46:27
knocked my teeth out my front teeth uh five times god wow dang are you really yeah
00:46:34
um but the cool thing about that is every time you knock them out you can choose the size and the color
00:46:39
you have a very positive value in your adult life that's that's a thing right
00:46:43
so how many bones you have broken in your body everyone wants to know four officially four officially yeah my
00:46:50
pelvis my elbow uh my femur and um well I broke my thumb basically concussion how many bruises roughly
00:46:59
concussions I had many you find out later but he was out cold for three minutes once yeah well
00:47:14
concussions weren't talked about a lot in the old days no no you just hit your
00:47:17
head hard they didn't know yeah you got a spell wrong but they say multiple hard
00:47:22
hits is the hardest thing on your brain uh well or or in the hundreds in in succession yeah yeah where it's one
00:47:29
after the other the in a short time yes absolutely and and um I've been proactive in that and I've
00:47:35
I've had the tests and to see if I'm at risk for Alzheimer's and it seems that
00:47:40
I'm doing all right I see a lot of dudes in these Instagram with no helmets doing
00:47:43
some gnarly stuff yes a little scary it's kind of a skateboarder cool thing to do but it is not the smartest they
00:47:49
were trying to when they put skateboarding in the Olympics there there was a there was a movement which I
00:47:56
found odd to not have helmets in the Park event people are flying yeah you're doing Railside that's it
00:48:05
when it's flat you're saying when it's just Street stuff I'm not when the
00:48:08
street they're they're not but what they were saying we shouldn't have to wear
00:48:13
pads and I was like you guys are I I was I was not in the conversation but so you
00:48:17
guys are flying 10 feet above 10 foot pools that's yeah I don't think it's
00:48:22
going to go well for the general audience yeah I know it's not like it's supposed
00:48:27
to be kind of a fun game picture parents going yeah you're never gonna do that
00:48:34
[Music] does the skateboarding culture or does it overlap with surfing in a way or is
00:48:41
that a bad vibe that it also it's not necessarily a cannabis culture it was kind of oh uh
00:48:48
I'd say skateboarding is so diverse now that I wouldn't just zero in on something like that I I feel like this
00:48:55
definitely has been associated with they had the phrase Surfer bomb do they have
00:49:00
spider bomb um skate rat I think Escape rat is more like to someone who yeah but I think on
00:49:06
the outside especially in the in those days when skating wasn't very popular
00:49:10
there was a there was a sort of view of skating that was oh they're Slackers
00:49:15
there's nothing wake up late they're Stoners right and I guess you could view
00:49:19
it like that but I feel like skating requires so much discipline that that was sort of being yeah it's very
00:49:25
technical it's true we were sort of outliers because you didn't fit in anywhere at our school so my brother and
00:49:31
I yeah we took my kids to Europe and they because we were middle class kids got some money we're in Italy but all they
00:49:38
wanted all they talked about was statues and monuments I could catch so much air
00:49:41
off that oh yeah everything was about what they could skate off of yeah kind of any angle and I remember when one of
00:49:48
the pal tourists went to the Vatican and I tail dropped off one of the sculptures
00:49:52
and I'm sure they loved that people didn't really like that yeah wait a minute you were in the Vatican it's an
00:49:57
Escape I mean in the Vatican City area yeah yeah we we were just that's that
00:50:03
was the thing in those days all we cared about was skating so it was anything yeah yeah the sizing was just more
00:50:08
incidental to us getting to skate that day uh stairs what was that what would you get most excited about just in sort
00:50:15
of urban back in those days anything that resembled a ramp or a bank or like a uh Reservoir even in Kettner school
00:50:23
here I used to see in skateboarder magazine so when I came here I had to go find it and it was kind of lame it was
00:50:28
just slight banks on asphalt but it was something that was the early days yeah I
00:50:33
do some burtlemans in the first Bones Brigade uh newsletter yeah I had a photo doing a burtleman at
00:50:51
Canter Banks oh for real yeah Tony's a photographer across me if you go up to him and there's a camera low
00:51:00
and you do a tail block put your hand down and then oh yeah that's a good picture angle yeah that's a good one uh
00:51:06
let's talk about the movie uh what you were in jackass too before we get to Police Academy
00:51:10
um all of them you're in all of them yeah and you do did you do Dan have you
00:51:13
seen when uh some kind of blown up suit full pipe yeah did you do it did you do a full pipe in a chicken suit or
00:51:20
something I did yes I was about to say it sounds like possible Johnny Knoxville I did that for Jackass
00:51:29
yeah with Matt Hoffman the TV show the TV show okay he and I watch oh he was a BMX right yeah and we did we did a loop
00:51:36
uh in Orlando and then then after the we jumped into this Lake oh that's fun yeah
00:51:41
um and then uh I was on Wild Boys and we were skating in gorilla costumes that man it's never easy we were also
00:51:51
skating with an orangutan so that was the whole vibe there was orangutan that skated and then Bob Bergquist and I
00:51:57
dressed up in gorilla did the orangutan think you heard gorillas no but it did not like if we got ahead of him
00:52:05
he's in it to win it and we're gonna stand behind because you don't want him coming after
00:52:10
you in Europe we end up skating picture your face off I heard yeah yeah we end up
00:52:17
skating side note uh we're just about to fill the the content and then we went
00:52:22
and did Bob had his own Loop and we did Bob's Loop and Bob's Loop was very slow
00:52:27
and weathered and I didn't take that into consideration as I went down to it
00:52:31
and then I ended up paying the price did you not get around the whole thing I fell I fell from what happens I fell
00:52:38
just around uh uh 10 o'clock going up and that makes you go all the way to the top and then
00:52:45
fall so I fell 16 feet that's when I broke my pelvis and were you in the orangutan suit at that point or some
00:52:52
other suit was the orangutan suit that was for wild boys was it was it padded not worth it no they that was extra we
00:52:59
don't got any much and I was wearing the mask so I wasn't wearing my helmet
00:53:04
uh I got a concussion but I launched my skull for people at home you just go straight down fast like Hot Wheels and
00:53:11
then you do a whole Loop a hole and you lose all your momentum at the top and you want to bail I'm sure but if you
00:53:16
just hang on you're fully lightweight I'm sure you're full um if you have the right amount of speed
00:53:20
you you just hold steady and it works and it will stay on yeah but but the problem with Bob's is that it was so
00:53:27
weathered you couldn't get that around amount of speed I like it so I tried to
00:53:31
compensate by using my legs and if you use your legs then you end up completely straight leg with nowhere to go have you
00:53:38
ever studied geometry or or physics because it sounds like you're really you
00:53:43
got to know speed it's wind it's like well the first time I ever did it I did
00:53:47
I did go I actually like did a Hot Wheels and tried to measure that and do the ratios of how that would work and it
00:53:55
worked the first time but right this time it didn't work it seems like there's a lot of thinking that goes into
00:53:59
these tricks that maybe not every skateboarder has yeah it's just intuitive no no it's just try right I
00:54:07
don't like they gave you a shitty room if I get here I'm gonna fall there I got
00:54:10
to get speed to get this velocity and this angle I don't know yeah we're just
00:54:14
kind of going off a feeling we didn't have foam pits or training grounds right
00:54:19
so it's like David like he he tried air to access all and came out hard broke yeah when we by the
00:54:25
way we we did this movie in the old days I I was trying to jump the simple thing
00:54:29
of stairs let's see if your wrist has a bump no I actually I actually broke my
00:54:34
wrist again after that skating yeah and my mom goes you shouldn't skate anymore
00:54:38
I go because it's too dangerous she goes no you're horrible at it we have to keep you in school you keep
00:54:44
we're mortgaging the house yeah it was it got too hard because it was too you
00:54:50
know I could do the desert pipes uh we did those I could do uh you know and just go to vert and come I couldn't
00:54:56
really do that those were those are famous could you do uh um what is it the pineapple reverse squat do you remember
00:55:03
that one the old Dipsy Doodle but it gets scary Dana and it was just when it gets too hard what they were
00:55:12
doing it just it said I had a hard time looking at it my kids coming down steep hills yeah didn't want to wear helmets
00:55:18
but could put the helmet on put the helmet on and I because of childhood trauma I had to look away my wife could
00:55:24
just watch them but I would just I would just look away and they made it you know
00:55:28
we had 23 ER visits between the two sons oh wow yeah yeah I uh I actually have the cell number of the head of the ER my
00:55:38
down there by you and your secret we have a special Lane Tony he's coming in
00:55:43
on Tony Drive okay we have several children and they all went through their share of injuries
00:55:49
because they all skate so not too and is Riley a pro Riley my oldest son is pro yes yeah he's good he's cool oh that's
00:55:56
cool so do you think um when you see him becoming that good you do you see yourself in him intellectually or or I
00:56:04
see I see his determination and his drive to keep trying to outdo himself yeah very much
00:56:12
so he he he's more of a street skater so that is not my wheelhouse but I do see
00:56:17
the same sort of motivation that he has that I have he's kind of all successful
00:56:22
people it's hard that he's that good because he's got this guy's a dad and
00:56:25
and it's hard to be good anyway he kind of he kind of shied away from skating
00:56:29
when he started getting good because of that it's weird it's definitely weird
00:56:33
but but came back to it because he had so many close friends that were just hardcore skaters and kind of found his
00:56:39
own path after that well once you're making a living at something that's a
00:56:43
passion it's kind of a it's a very nice thing so he is professional he is yeah
00:56:48
and I always wanted to make the same amount of money I could as a waiter like maybe 1500 a month right and once I got
00:56:54
to 600 a month I was able to put their apron I made 600. we made 600 times to finish
00:57:02
that sentence uh I've done two jokes but um to your point and it's for everybody who who excels at things so
00:57:14
the passion has to come first and and just wanting to get better at it you know yeah wanting to get better I do see
00:57:21
I I have seen skaters come and go because their motivation is is Fame and Fortune and if they get a taste of it
00:57:27
then they don't want to skate anymore or they don't want to push themselves and
00:57:31
also if that's your moniker it's like Lauren Michael's one of his uh the
00:57:36
miniature hot you feel yourself getting less hot it's hard to stay so in other
00:57:41
words if you're a Fame [ __ ] you're just like ah you know yeah I know I like to
00:57:45
stay home I don't want to go anywhere Dave's a man about town but we we met
00:57:49
we're different that's why we if we have a chemistry but yeah I'd much rather
00:57:54
watch Friday Night Lights at home I have to extract Dana out to dinner once a week yeah I feel you you know but he has
00:58:01
a steak dinner mashed potatoes waiting for him when he sits down and then he'll have a small
00:58:07
cup yeah I go are you feeling anything with that two pounds of times whiskey tonight Dana why aren't you
00:58:16
asking him about the movie you don't care about it's Police Academy four well
00:58:21
this is uh no well this I have some questions after this but this is the access of connection between these
00:58:30
two the movie Police Academy four the good David's in it Tony's in it go guys
00:58:35
I said I got hired just doing improv I wasn't a good actor the way I locked into that Tony is I went and I was very
00:58:42
new I was 21. and I just started doing sets the improving this casting people peppered
00:58:47
around you just don't know and then when they called me in and they said we got a
00:58:52
script can you come in an audition I didn't know what I was doing I would have literally because my next audition
00:58:55
I just read it off the page yeah uh they go we want you to read I go oh I can read and then I just read the script to
00:59:01
them and they were like you don't know what you're doing and I go nope so the
00:59:05
only reason I got that is because they go can you skate and I said yeah because I auditioned for North Shore a movie and
00:59:11
I said I could Surf and I could not and then did they discover that yeah they discovered it well I didn't get it so it
00:59:16
got down to me and Matt Adler a buddy of mine got it and he uh he could serve so
00:59:20
it's about a guy from Arizona and I have all the components I can't surf that
00:59:24
good uh so I do dodge a bullet with that one yeah I would have [ __ ] drowned surfing no no but I'm just saying that
00:59:29
is that is the one of the most quoted ridiculous Surf movies oh yeah it was kind of goop well it's kind of goofy is
00:59:37
that you're saying yeah yeah there's some one-liners in there that endure that they'll live on because it's
00:59:43
called Uh North Shore North Shore yeah and who was in it Matt Adler is a buddy of mine there okay uh Laird plays I
00:59:50
remember that oh he does Hamilton the guy who pulls his leash he would have drowned Laird Hamilton yeah he's a trip
00:59:55
He's the bad guy if he knew it was funny not good so anyway so I auditioned for
00:59:59
Police Academy but when I get there they go we're getting a new script and it's
01:00:03
not here yet and I go oh and they go [ __ ] you're here do you want to just oh
01:00:08
perfect you want to just ad-lib stuff well you're just a smart ass kid and they weren't lines are so stiff anyway I
01:00:12
would have bomb so I just started making up stuff that's good and it was so lucky
01:00:16
because they go oh he's not bad because I was just free forming that's so much
01:00:21
so I get tired I go there I'm making so much [ __ ] money I think I'm thinking 2500 a week it's a
01:00:28
movie I was in a movie in Toronto and then so you're a part of the skate gang
01:00:32
of Misfits and they go oh we're gonna get and of course I knew the Bones Brigade I knew everything from Arizona
01:00:36
and then they go this guy Tony Hawk I think is Guerrero and Caballero and Mike McGill and Lance Lance Mountain and so
01:00:44
they all came out and I was so excited because they were wrong do you remember your first impressions of David Spade
01:00:51
um I thought it was super funny yeah so it was it was one of those things where I got where you go oh you're you're
01:00:57
really funny you should be a comedian that was lucky because you know Tony the one problem we had was Tony he was
01:01:03
taller than me and he was uh were you goofy regular foot I'm goofy-footed and
01:01:07
so we had Chris Miller well no can I energize yeah go ahead so yes so we all read for this that part oh is that right
01:01:16
we all read for the party oh that's right oh okay or that you and uh though who's the guy in Past Times yeah and
01:01:21
Backer so we all read for those parts as the Bones Brigade and they're like yeah
01:01:25
you guys are not actors but you know we'll we'll consider you in the gang or
01:01:28
whatever okay and then they I didn't know that they singled out when they hired you guys they sing it out Lance
01:01:34
and me as the doubles yeah I went through a growth spurt from the time we tried out to the time we got there
01:01:41
really and so for the first week they were like I think that guy's Too Tall and I remember the director saying like
01:01:48
you know he's a pretty good skater but he's a bad stunt double and so then
01:01:52
Stacy kept telling me like oh Crouch stay low what's Daisy problem yeah and I
01:01:57
go I I don't know I'm just trying I was trying and then and then they just
01:02:01
quietly sent me home basically I got fired oh and then they sent in Chris Miller who looks like he
01:02:09
looks a little more and is is the same stance as well you're you're I'm goofy
01:02:13
but he was closer it was a tough decision because you're goofy you're sorry what is goofy goofy oh that means
01:02:21
he stands he stands with his right foot forward so do I and that's called goofy
01:02:24
yeah and left foot is called regular regular okay and so when I got hired you remember that was that was part of the
01:02:30
thing it was like oh you're goofy-footed too that's what David does so I went so
01:02:33
and long story short they sent in Chris Miller who looks more like him but his regular footed oh okay so in the in the
01:02:40
skate sequence his stance keeps changing it's so crazy wow I'm gonna watch this
01:02:45
professional by the way but you had a legit skate part like going through the mall I could skate I could skate and
01:02:52
then when I go one time I go uh brianbacker could not skate he was uh he was very much against it
01:02:59
yeah to the point where he's making us very uncomfortable as part of the movie
01:03:03
or he just didn't want to even pretend and they needed establishing shots of
01:03:08
him skiing okay even if they had to pull him on something he didn't want to be
01:03:12
yeah but at one point they did try to get him on a skateboard and he was very upset about it he was kind of
01:03:16
complaining to us and we're like we just work here yeah but we can help you Stacy Peralta was a great skater and a
01:03:23
great director and one of his bosses because he's from pal Peralta Bones Brigade yeah I mean he's the one who put
01:03:29
us together and he was the one who got us the audition and he did second unit yeah he's so he directed us in a lot of
01:03:36
those skate scenes if not all of them and one time I go Stacy he goes you can skate a little bit right I go yeah yeah
01:03:40
I go listen on this one I'm at a pink bone this year didn't I yeah and I go uh
01:03:45
we're just we're just rolling through the city at night so I go out and then
01:03:48
they go you go over these steps like what is it five steps like I can do that and he goes okay so I could do five
01:03:54
steps seven out of ten times so but when the pressure so they're all behind me I
01:04:00
don't know if you remember this anyway I'm in front making noises we Loop later
01:04:04
and then we go in and I do the first steps and I [ __ ] wipe out and then everyone has to wipe out on top of me
01:04:10
because they're all like two feet behind me oh yeah there was no so there's the
01:04:13
camera rolling there's nothing yeah and they use that no I think they oh disco Tony just do it
01:04:22
and then we need to get one right as a stunt double yeah five five steps was it nothing for you that uh not nothing but
01:04:30
it was yeah it seemed to be a lot yeah but what we learned in in that shoot is we learned about stunt bumps
01:04:39
and we didn't know anything about that so if we pretended like something was
01:04:44
really hard you did jump a police car you're talking about two stairs are you nuts boy I've
01:04:51
got a fee for that one man yeah I got it there was one it was the um when we jumped the fountain okay I don't think
01:04:56
you were there for that one but we we jumped a fountain they set up this big ramp and and it just was so janky the
01:05:02
whole thing and the landing Zone was terrible and we were just sitting there sweating it and they're like we'll give
01:05:07
you each 500 bucks to do this we're like what oh yeah oh oh the ramp got a lot
01:05:13
yeah every time and that's when we learned that interesting yeah stunt doubles I've been
01:05:20
next to guys that were about to take a car did on my behalf talking to him how you doing pretty good and they never
01:05:27
they never say they won't go again because they get another I guess they get more money chunk yeah yeah so every
01:05:32
take they do it they get a bump right right yeah there's only one time I had a
01:05:36
stunt man tap out and I took over can you take over what was it weird well it was going inside this big vat of goo
01:05:44
big wooden thing and Anthony Hopkins was the dad he was there and he's supposed
01:05:49
to go under it and then it's the goo fills everything and I guess a little claustrophobia the guy was a great stunt
01:05:57
man but just got him shook up so I did it you did it yeah I got underneath the thing oh [ __ ] I'm a little guy I can't
01:06:05
skate I can't do anything but I'll stay on this [ __ ] good I come up from the
01:06:10
goo and there's Anthony Hopkins or Tony as I call him or hoppy we were close
01:06:14
anyway he's playing my dad so anyway um I have questions yeah give him a question I I just we do this sometimes
01:06:22
for fun let's see what I got here [Music] I I do want to say though to end that I
01:06:31
get asked about that all the time I do too all the time oh yeah please get on before it is kind of but it's always one
01:06:37
of those comedies of the 80s everybody knows from then on we stayed friends he would always give me a board he would
01:06:43
always if I asked for something uh we went and skated Miguel's ramp once so which I was not good at and uh I'm so
01:06:49
brittle that I can't believe you still will will risk falling because every time I fall it really rocks me
01:06:55
um I I think I I got accustomed to the slight Pains of skating but now as I grow older things linger more but I do
01:07:03
find that if I stay active it's easier because when I but Dana when I did that
01:07:08
thing with tiger I was comparing them because they're both like the number one
01:07:10
in their field Tiger's so driven so we played golf that night and he was visibly hurt from his back operations he
01:07:18
wasn't he's super cool he's great he's reading putts he was having fun but I
01:07:22
could tell he's in pain I even asked him would you you think he'll ever play golf again because he
01:07:26
just got an operation and I thought maybe this is it why I asked him I don't
01:07:29
know that that next morning he gets in the car wreck right so he crushes his feet everything
01:07:35
he may never play again and he starts to swing and within a year he he was better
01:07:41
than me within minutes I go there was a while there where I was better than him because he couldn't pick up a golf club
01:07:46
and then he goes I can kind of better than you and I'm like what how is it that I thought it was in years yeah and
01:07:52
and he's so good at it that once he can just stand up on two feet he's like he's
01:07:56
playing on one leg now and he was also made the cut and was doing bad stuff like a week ago it's infuriating you
01:08:04
know um have you ever been like upside down on your skateboard and had the thought
01:08:09
in your head like this can't be good or this isn't gonna go and well the the
01:08:15
first time I tried 900 yes in your brain you went this isn't going to end well I
01:08:19
was like I don't know where I am when is when am I going to hit the wall oh there
01:08:22
it is have you ever been upside down your skateboard and thought why did I ever really did I ever really like this
01:08:36
I think the when I first came back to the ramp after breaking my leg there was a the moment of that have you ever been
01:08:43
upside down the thought popped in your head David Spade was really funny and he scanned me
01:08:49
for it he said almost every day have you ever been upside down here skateboarding
01:08:53
on my IQ is 144 what the [ __ ] am I doing ramming my style I had a BMX guy who was
01:09:01
who was Pro for a while Chris Duncan say that to me that he was upside down once
01:09:05
and he said this can't end well like he just knew he was out of sorts and also
01:09:11
you you and you just had anticipate that hit and you're like I'm not I know that
01:09:15
I can't prepare for it this time so when is it coming and please make it soon
01:09:19
have you ever gotten kind of an endorphin high like distance Runners do from skateboarding like a real Buzz oh
01:09:27
yeah all the time when you land something great you're just like anything that I land new to me okay it's
01:09:33
like new jokes for us no joke it's like if you do a new joke at this stage of
01:09:37
the game new joke have you ever been on your skateboard going fast had somebody else push a
01:09:46
skateboard five feet away next you and tried to jump on that skateboard yeah uh yeah that's not as amazing as you think
01:09:53
oh wow I thought you thought I saw a guy on Instagram the other day he hits like a bump and Escape
01:10:00
when they said he does a flip in there I've seen that that's pretty yeah that's
01:10:03
pretty wild there's so many of the ways I can go wrong okay has anyone ever used
01:10:06
the pun to you you're just skating by has anyone ever said that to you you're
01:10:11
skating through life hey Tony huh okay I'm just curious bye what makes a prodigy
01:10:19
uh I guess it's determination I think I think a lot of termination discipline
01:10:26
um and it's just I it's you know when you see it Mozart right JonBenet yeah all the big
01:10:34
ones um the biggest mistake beginning skateboarders make Tony Hawk the biggest mistake beginners make
01:10:43
um getting ahead of themselves skill wise where they think that because they can
01:10:49
ride a skateboard that suddenly they can do some big stunt a big set of stairs a
01:10:54
big handrail and they do not have all the required elements to that and it goes horribly because it looks good to
01:11:01
discouraged them it looks easy on Instagram Dan yeah when you see someone make a trick you don't realize they fell
01:11:06
30 times fill in the blank Tony Hawk is you don't have to answer this a skateboarder uh
01:11:16
uh husband a father and a philanthropist okay David Spade is sales funniest skateboard yeah funny
01:11:27
skateboarding not so good to escape board but incredibly funny no yeah let's see do you think Evil Knievel
01:11:37
could have made some noise in the skateboarding World noise uh which one oh okay I know you've landed
01:11:59
the 900 and I'm just throwing this out it's going on records it's going out all
01:12:03
over the world 1200. uh Mishi Brusco uh a current Pro Skater has done a 1260. was he Young
01:12:13
is he really young uh Tom shot you're thinking of Tom Sharp he did Tom sharty
01:12:17
the first 1080 he was very young oh yeah yeah uh this is on a bigger ramp so more
01:12:21
air time people somehow think that's easier I don't think that's a cheater
01:12:26
but uh no it's hard Brisco did 1260s so he did three and a half God dang uh I can't put that in my head
01:12:33
Brothers it's amazing the humans just want to keep it it's amazing if you look
01:12:39
that up find the clip it's worth watching because in track and field in Sprints it's like a hundredth of a
01:12:44
second world record by point oh oh one no this is a full spin yeah that that is extraordinary uh these these were just
01:12:53
random ones like fear where does Fear come into it and how do you deal with it right before you go on off you want to
01:12:59
be in an attack mode or uh I treat fear in more that I feel confident that I have the skills to do this the
01:13:08
preparation hope this works hope I can land it yeah I don't know what's gonna
01:13:13
happen it's more like I have all the pieces to this let's put them together
01:13:17
and and I approach it with more confidence than that's a fear yeah have you ever done a
01:13:23
rope swing into a lake and you were the kid who would do like all kinds of triple somersaults I would no but I was
01:13:29
little I would go off the high dive did you have vertigo at all did you look down and go
01:13:35
um yeah but I I think I just knowing that other people have done it yeah seems like you would have been a good
01:13:41
high school diver probably with this sort of I don't think I'd be that accurate
01:13:45
um you know what I mean like I'm down to do flips but I don't want to pencil in
01:13:49
and yeah yeah you know I'm gonna make it look like a hyena uh I just asked people this anyway did
01:13:58
you as a kid movie or television show blow your mind make you happy um um shoot for Ben Stiller it was The
01:14:08
Poseidon Adventure yeah I was getting that's a good example for me it was Jason the Argonauts oh for
01:14:15
a for a TV show or those are movies TV show would have been a little house in their prairie that's Dave's favorite
01:14:21
yeah I did like I like it he's a huge Michael Landon fan has this once Mary got blind I was like she couldn't
01:14:27
realize I'm a six yeah that's a good question that's all right you can pass I
01:14:33
think I I really I enjoyed Greatest American Hero okay that makes sense my favorite movie
01:14:49
in the back of the day was fast times yeah great tasty waves yeah that that was that was a big comedy I got to
01:15:05
actually clarify a a line from Fast Times with Sean Penn's that was a big deal you did well it's coming of age
01:15:11
what was it uh people think he says all I need are uh tasty is a cool buzz and tasty waves he said cool buds yes yeah
01:15:20
and that's how I heard it yeah I got to clarify it with him and that he thought
01:15:25
he said Buzz no he said buds people think people think he says right I remember that line and it was
01:15:31
buds yeah um well Tony Tony thank you for talking about SNL uh for an hour with us well no
01:15:38
that's Part B we'll talk Tony's audition for SNL he skates on to eight H Lawrence
01:15:44
like what do you have it's good 13 million I I gotta say it it was a dream come true true and it only happened
01:15:52
recently and I was so thankful and you came out and did a cameo what did you do so I was I was here in La doing podcast
01:16:01
doing our podcast Hawk versus wolf Hawk was Hawk versus wolves wherever you can find podcasts and it's also on YouTube
01:16:08
yeah yes Hawk versus and so I was I was staying here doing this for a couple days in the studio in Santa Monica
01:16:14
driving back to my hotel it's like 6 p.m and I get a call and they said hey can
01:16:19
you make it to New York by tomorrow night uh they wrote you into a skit on SNL it's Thursday
01:16:27
yes I can do that that's for sure went stayed there went went did my podcast
01:16:34
with with uh Seth Rogen and went straight to LAX I live in San Diego I'm not even prepared to travel at all right
01:16:41
she just and went there bought a jacket upon landing and uh they had written me in a script literally all I was going to
01:16:50
do was say my name sure whatever it takes it was it was a skit about the you know that whole thing
01:16:58
went viral with the Miss Universe France yeah so you're in that yeah it's all right I
01:17:04
was going to be one of the judges of that pageant with the property brothers and when it came to me to ask who won I
01:17:11
just say my name and honestly when I saw the script I thought this is this is it
01:17:16
I'm flying out here this is a long way but also like this is my big break to
01:17:20
SNL yeah is that I get to and then they loved it in the rehearsal so much that they added a line for me
01:17:29
um we're out into line for you Tony it'll be on the cards did you say Lauren
01:17:33
so do I have the it quality should I stay and be a castle I did get to at the after party I got to actually sit with
01:17:40
him for a few minutes he just says really interesting stuff all the time Tony's like I know who you
01:17:48
are ah yeah he would be that yes he would be very very yeah I I know success when I see it David Dana didn't ought to
01:17:58
monetize but Tony did um uh just to sum up yeah your podcast is great thank you and um all your
01:18:11
business Endeavors and I think this will be an inspiring episode and it doesn't
01:18:14
matter what your passion is you just have to apply yourself and focus I always say to people look at your feet
01:18:21
don't look at the fame the money just look at your feet literally with skaters
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yeah but just like am I better today than I was yesterday and what can I do to get better no matter what you're
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trying to do that's what I take away David your takeaway is same thing I know what he said all right Tony
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talking to Tony it's good he's a philanthropist as a skatepark uh builds
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them and yeah the skate park project oh that's right safe skate park so that we help finances
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uh parks in underserved areas yes yes that's great going for 20 years now you make them better I don't understand
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