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Brendan Fraser Brendan Fraser uh he is uh I met him first during Dickie Roberts uh the movie
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and we asked him to come in and do a day or two uh and play himself and he did that was nice and he was super cool
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and he's a huge star yeah he's always been a rep of being a cool dude he's uh
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that was the height of his Fame he came over and did his favor um uh we got to chat with him and there's so much going
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on with Brennan plus just give some of the movies I mean I mean he really and I I when he was 23 I believe he started
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Encino Man that was probably in a frozen caveman broke through so then he was just huge hit in the 90s he was doing
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George the jungle The Mummy trilogies he's had this incredible career and then
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for different things we'll talk about he sort of went away for a little while and
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then he came back I saw him uh in the Showtime show the affair and he was great in that and I hadn't seen him in a
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while ago damn he's a great actor and then recently as everybody knows he's
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done a movie called the whale in which he plays a 600 pound man so the sort of all things Brendan these days and people
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are just really happy to see him back such a like yeah it's like it's nice to
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see everyone pulling for someone and yeah and uh he doesn't really need pulling four I don't think that's what
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he's asking for but it's just nice to see someone's a good dude every career
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is up and down um and to still be killing it and to know he's always probably knows he's good it's
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just it's the opportunities that's for everybody you just don't always get oh
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yeah totally so he's he's back and you know it was a I think it was Lauren or
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Bernie that I always said um the talent doesn't go away so your career can go like this but the
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talent doesn't go away we're going to ask him about uh standing ovations they
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go to Cannes Film Festival you got a 12-minute standing ovation I go do people feel dumb after a while do you
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ever use the bathroom in the middle of Standing Ovation because I would be I'd
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be texting with one hand like I mean how long can you go like this when you go like a bunch of seals but we'll get into
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that because there's a six minute one he had at Palm Springs and he had an eight
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minute one I'm like so first they Stan is like 20 seconds and then it's like
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that Festival hears about it yeah two years later it's like longer than the movies
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with the French love to do that you know the franchise [Music] [Laughter] we'll we'll get we'll do a deep dive
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into that uh we won't tell you about the whale we'll we'll talk to him about it
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so you can wait for that and uh but what a movie and um here he is Brandon Frazier
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[Music] no one hates us but we do all the time so this is you know obviously new show
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business that we don't really even talk we never had a plan we just put the mic
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on and start talking to people connected to SNL in some way yeah and you know so
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it's do you have any questions of us we're just asking Greg who your sponsors
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are because I'm just interested in how popular a lot of the you know this is
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new a lot of Hello fresh you know a lot of companies that basically say will do the work for you digitally like you know
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zip recruiter be one of them you know like we'll help you hire people zodoc will help you find a doctor yeah it's
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true sorry but they're gonna love this part of this podcast yeah this is free advertisements
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what's our favorite we don't have a favorite Master Class no it's good that
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they do it because what you should do you should teach a master class in what uh brilliant acting duh
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we both saw the whale I'm still recovering well we both saw I didn't see
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it all I got to the part where you got out to the ocean and then I I didn't see
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it it clicked out oh no I'm kidding I saw it okay I saw it and it kept cutting off because they give you 18
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minutes to watch it and so it gives you little bits oh I know my screen mine was
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perfect you know screeners work yeah I pressed a button I had on a beautiful laptop stereo speakers and I went
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downtown and it was amazing we're going to talk about the whale we're going to
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save it for the for for people listening right now want to hear about Brenda's
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thoughts about the whale it's coming up soon okay we can say that because I want
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to talk about a lot teaser I'm learning uh still shaken by it um okay we'll do a little SNL let's just
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ask him a couple quick questions because we have to fake like that's what this
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whole thing is about well no no I I want to talk about SNL as a part of his whole
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thing because I was fascinated as I did a deep dive is how you I hadn't seen anybody do the broad
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comedies and then can do the offbeat leading man funny guy like the mummy stuff and back
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and forth you're doing George of the Jungle and then you're doing Gods and
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Monsters it's like there's a pattern here I've had to have a theme I have a
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theme for every podcast yours is like the seeds of you being this renowned brilliant actor it's almost like you're
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just starting now I would say because you set the seat for it by constantly dipping your toes into it between these
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franchises that is so iconic anyway that's all I have to say I'll be quiet
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good night thanks folks I think I think his his pattern is there's no pattern
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how about that interesting because like let's say someone like me who gets into
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comedy you're lucky enough to just get um comedies and so if you're let's say
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Encino Man was maybe one of the first things that sort of uh blew up for you that was um which is a comedy you think
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that's all you would get offered or and people tell me oh you should do more
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movies like uncut gems I'm like well everyone should but that's just not how
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it works yeah do the academy award-winning level movies those are the good ones again yeah but then you went
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to school ties from Encino Man yes with Matt Damon um correct correction it was the other
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way around School Ties was shot first and then you went around the release dates were flip-flopped wait so you so
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much just brilliant drama and then you went with this broad comedy or whatever you want to call it a full-blown comment
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a straight ahead teen comedy genre that I don't know if it's really being done
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that way anymore y'all kids go to high school have a big Discovery no throw a
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party my sons who were basically 30 I'll just round them off that you're so much
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a big part of their childhood and they miss just big funny comedies that just exist to be funny
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maybe people are scared to step in it because you got to dodge so many types of jokes you know that's really your
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domain and expertise yeah and that's the hard part they start pulling stuff and
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cutting stuff and uh you just lose something maybe maybe those days are over forever but it's just like anything
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you just like Madonna you got to figure out a different way to make a comedy that's still big and funny I think they
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can make it back I think there's an app type yeah I think there's a huge app
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because it just releases all the cultural stuff that's going on and you just laugh you know the question We're
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not gonna let you talk he warned me I'd have to fight for my time I warned him ahead of time but
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we're slowing down because we're shot out of mechanics we just saw the movie
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so well I was gonna yeah I was I was now I was deeply napping in a full full-on dream and he said he's here no I'm
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kidding no but I I live close by no I said get over here prick I said who he said Brenton
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so the School Ties is sort of a heavy drama right so you get that now is it because of some sort of feedback or
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buzzing that that you when you go for Encino Man uh that helps that because you've got one in the can that people
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like sometimes that's how it works chronologically I went in to meet for Encino Man before I got hired to do
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School ties and I I was reticent to do and see no man because it was too kooky and I wanted to I don't know step out as
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very serious actor straight out of college with my my DFA in my back pocket and a lot of aspiration and
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um I I understood that the character is basically the new guy in town which was something that they hadn't seen anyone
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bring in to the readings or the auditions before that they really wanted because he's you know he's a fish out of
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water he's in trying to fit in all that um but it was so Broad and I didn't
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really know anything about film or comedy and then School Ties came down the Pike and
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I read for that did nothing with it because it didn't go anywhere they were casting a driftnet to
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find their David as I learned um and then some a number of of months later they came back to with a new
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um casting director who had me go in and read for Sherry and they did a screen test and I thought when they said do you
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want to test I was thinking exams in something that's a green I was um got the job
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and that was great I I read with Matt Damon and um met a lot of the other guys who were
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already hired was off to Boston and Massachusetts to shoot School ties and um was getting
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messages from um Encino Man with George the loom and Les Mayfield were quite driven to get me to
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come on board and then part way through almost finishing School Ties I was having a conversation with a really
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great guy who was called Keith Wester he's not with us anymore he was a soundboard mixer and he had a great
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voice and he was always mixing sound but he he was reading he was on his own Radio
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Show in a way he was really a Charming guy and he was mentoring a lot of us and I was talking about you know what are
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you doing and and uh I was conflicted and very serious and got his comedy thing they want me to do and they've
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offered it to me and he said well hang on you know there's this it's a drama
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and you've got a comedy it's not a bad thing to have you know as he said
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because he joked about it a bird in the hand it's worth two in the nest is that
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the bush I think idiom bush is near ahead and I just realized uh my voice is so loud and I'm screaming I'll sit up
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he's very cool can I say something I saw an electromagnetic uh visual thing around your mic maybe it's your charisma
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I'm sorry there's a flash feature on my phone it's went swoosh so Greg Holtzman quite
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another I'll turn that off I don't want to be that guy I didn't want anyone to
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get electrocuted during our podcast it's my own lighting feature when I say something interesting he's got a light
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Charisma it's like there's a lightning but by the way you had to when you read
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the script for School Ties it was the first time you had to not have clothes on and act I saw you had to have a fist
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fight with Matt Damon in a shower yeah when you read that in a script are you like okay or I can't wait for that day
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well you don't look forward to it but I understood what the scene was about was
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exposing one another's Prejudice and all this oh yeah it was incredible aggression and so it kind of drives the
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point home yeah and 17 year old boys fight so lock it let's figure this out there it's interesting I don't want to
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interject but I like to interrupt David um these these people throughout your life anybody could be a parent brother
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friend who'll say these casual things that kind of tilt you in one direction
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or another we could all have stories about that so this one guy said this thing to you which made it I'm gonna go
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do Encino Man or till to do that it helped me make up my decision because this point was if you're new to the
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industry your calling card will be I can do something dramatic I also I can do it
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all comedy don't get that off you don't get that chance a lot so you have a chance before
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the one comes out you're like I can do the other one and then now you can get
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hired for two different kinds of movies that was the hope then so yeah um and by
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the way Encino Man is a good movie you can do wrong like that no it was that reading it
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he was great I remember seeing it back then I think Paulie was in it with you correct and Polly was funny and crazy
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and uh but you were Charming he's good looking but you're making a lot out of
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this that could have gone the wrong way you know what I mean it could have been so dumb but it was a huge hit and that
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was great and it was fun I remember watching it back in the day and that kind of launched you uh I I I remember
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my first audition was for a movie called um I wrote it down [Music] yeah what'd you say about it I just
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remember that film was coming out and it was being promoted and I was yeah seeing
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a young Ethan Hawke and the cast yeah on Oprah I think it was to I'll press for
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it so it was prior to and you did movie anything in my yeah I did a couple auditions and didn't quite make the cut
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um but uh so from George I'm not George jungle you have so many in here goddamn
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yeah there's so many but I just want to introduce this too because is that you
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said that your dramatic training so you you're doing some of these movies and
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you're just totally committed like as a dramatic actor essentially when you're
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doing even Encino Man yeah you're not thinking comedy you're just playing the
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truth the scene I don't know how to think comedy I think I'm the least funny
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person I know and so I saw some pretty funny on it that's my Approach it's
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a risk calling comedy anyway but it might understand here approach is that if you think you're
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funny you're not yeah and if you try to be funny for sure you're not so play it
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as a straight ahead reality right yeah and you know on SNL when the host would come in and sit down in that first
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Monday meeting and say good news guys I'm funny I know how to do it I know I was shocked
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I know all the rules of comedies and three things oh boy I just made a joke it wasn't Christopher Walken he said the
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Bears no that would be funny um but one gear that you did have also in the these 90 comedies is that and I
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find it really interesting that you could make your face like super leading man handsome and then you could go to a
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grin that would just go a certain way that made you kind of funny or you know you could take the handsomest and be the
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goofy leading man it's really interesting to watch that some of your stuff you know it was that intentional
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or just it was you're just thinking it I'm sure you weren't making a face but
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you could actually had a chameleon aspect well I think you shouldn't take yourself
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too seriously yeah maybe it comes from that yeah and just I think if you're having fun internally I do think with
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comedy it helps even that doesn't mean you're mugging pushing trying to be
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funny but you're feeling a sense of fun you know um likable is half of the battle too
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Anthony Hopkins a Tony to me sure told me once that he thought acting at the top level is a form of self-hypnosis he
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would as you probably have heard he only reads the script 200 times and he has a
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Polaroid in those days I know you're a huge Polaroid camera person he had a Polaroid picture of his character and
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they'd yell speed he'd put it up look at it put it on his face and go what put it
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in his pocket and then he was the guy are you sure picture of himself and then played the
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character yeah wow look whatever works and he'd breathe it and he said oh I think it's sort of I always do Rob
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Williams when I do Anthony Hopkins they're both incredibly shy they're his
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Charisma is like this you know but um this you know we'll go to the whale in a
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minute but it's hard to act the point I wanted to make something else I learned
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I got this from Lauren was before I did the first monologue when I hosted SNL that moment before the it wasn't
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broadcast it would have been the rehearsal yes thank you um he came out and he has a little chat with the hosts
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I was told yeah Lauren's going to have a word with you all he said to me was it's
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all about confidence and he turned on his heel and we went to whatever shoot it went to air wow that's what he told
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me I mean I didn't know if he was telling me be confident or don't try and
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be funny but essentially it's just about taking ownership of what you're doing
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yeah and committing to it um I think that that let me know a lot about um pretty much everything else about you
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know again knowing you're knowing you're there for a good reason you're good at what you do
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you like what you do and if people don't laugh at what you're doing then just
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move on to whatever is next well I felt when I watched the 97 monologue you were very confident thanks
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but then when I watched 99 there was a whole other level of relaxation because you you'd already
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done it but once before nothing defeats that you went and you found Tom Davis in the
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room it's like Tom Davis was still living on the set it was really really good day when I was
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there [Music] what about when did Airheads come along 95 95. so I was hearing you talk about that
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on some uh you know with Sandler with Sandler I didn't put that together it's
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like oh what's up I was whenever he's mentioned I try to do that just under
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Mike yeah he's he's listening uh so oh by the way let's listen so it's uh Adam
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was asking you are you guys kind of uh bullshitting about AirHeads and and then Adam goes oh and Farley was on it he was
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on for two weeks he did a lot of night shoots and it was probably the most fun I've had on any set I'm sorry were you
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in grown-ups Adam traitor no it was very traitor-ish and you agree I'm glad you agree
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and uh Grumps 2 also he could have picked either one uh but I remember AirHeads and I was jealous I think Bob
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Simons did that movie I think it came along yeah and he was shooting down uh he was in New York some of it there was
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some in uh inside stuff and I would come maybe came to watch I don't think I knew
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you but I knew Adam and Farley and uh Buscemi I just met so that one kind of was a fun one too it didn't do great but
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another fun comedy one right let's come around I do a lot of fan conventions now
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and people show up dressed like Chaz Darby and the characters the posters design they scream uh it's too loud
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you're too old you're flipping you off double barrel flip off you just get him right back I
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love you bro you know what I think it's it's really fun when you get a movie
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that lives on because sometimes movies do well and you never hear from them again and then some sort of live on and
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it's good to have the ones I think it Resurgence because it's you know Nostalgia yeah now for a whole new
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generation I did one called PCU and then people go oh PCU is great I didn't love
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it but I go oh yeah okay Hey listen if there's people that get into it and for
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and it's kind of timely again now because it's politically correct and all
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that stuff right uh some of my movies were buried in Nevada in a mine if you could have saved Clint slate you
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could have played that baby they would test nuclear bombs and just do it do it because they wanted to blow that movie
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up people still like Wayne's World come on you guys yeah Wayne's World come on
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let's talk about Superman I just heard that that could be a quick story but oh
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Superman what was the era of Superman was that an audition or was that a meeting or how does that work that would
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have been in the year 2002 uh it was on the Warner Brothers lot they were looking for a new Superman
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and I think they're like five or six guys around town who are being juggled their names juggled around sure
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um there's a test again same drill yeah I went in on a fox or the Warner Brother
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lot put on the outfit no first I went into an office somewhere in wheelchair Corridor and they locked me in a room
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with a script that was printed on Crimson paper with black ink could hardly read it but you know you could
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also can't photocopy okay and then I I could read it and give it back to them
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and then for a Superman movie yeah I could know the story okay so was it since Christopher Reeve this is like the
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first Superman back I don't know it would be way later than that I think Reeves might have done the third one in
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the 80s so uh all right Brandon Ruth played the part that's what he got ultimately got
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your part okay correct about it's his but I mean I was an aspirant for sure and um yeah there was a screen test uh
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how did you talk as Superman I mean did you kind of lower it you have a pretty deep voice but did you I didn't want to
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put quotation marks around anything yeah and I didn't pretend to be Superman I I
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tried to you know get back in think of it well the script that was written was like it was like heightened text it was
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like they seemed like that you know had a gambler or um you know like big stuff that you
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would have done Dynamic pentameter Shakespeare and all classic text and so I gave that kind of approach to just
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taking everything seriously and playing big objectives and yeah you know and just trying to
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approach the piece as if it was a giant Opera in space you know do you have any lines like Lex Luthor you're an idiot oh
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kill me taizor was his name I was bellowing tyzar I'll kill you I would have done it as super Encino Man
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change your name was that was Zod in one of those or am I crazy Zion there's a woman a man with black hair
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and they came down there going the three that got in the painted glass I love that one that one was brilliant yes the
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first Christopher Reeves uh glass prism yeah it wasn't Brandon Brando was in that he
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was amazing [Music] these Regis get out of here and there's a little bit of choice a little bit
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Brandon there we are there's no one finder then Brendan Frasier anyway I just have to tell him I'm just a little
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Punchy right now I'm sure you're more Punchy than me no no no he's beat up
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you're a giddy from the whale uh but we're not talking about that just yet I
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want to tell him about his big break in Dickie Roberts now yes Dicky Dicky Roberts where everyone was saying a
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Brendan phrase you or um it's like razor Frazier right razor Frazier rather than do you shave with a
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racer or do you say oh Fraser do you see it do you shave with a razor razor or do
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you say that Frasier the chameleon voice guy got it yes I can do it it takes Direction
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Brendan Fraser just gave me an acting note it was a great note he'd be a good
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acting teacher um yes I want you to direct me [Music] because I didn't know Brendan and he was
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nice enough to come in and do something in it but I think it was through Sam the
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director Sam Weissman okay so the back story on that was just to bore this out of you is Vicki Roberts
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was Pitch we pitched at me and Fred wrote it and we said oh it's a child star which is sort of to this day a
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theme of child stars kind of Hit the skit you know what I mean they have a lot of trouble and it's very real and
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it's sad and it's no one's quite figured out how to fix it but that movie was
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PG-13 two funny things one when we finished writing it a pretty big director kind of can't
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remember was said I'd love to do it I'll keep the First Act but we have to go
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very dark after that and make it R-rated make it with the way that it really is and I said no it can't
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be super dark I mean and Paramount's not gonna do that uh so we handed it in but by the way when I
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handed it in this is a classic Showbiz story so they read it at Paramount and then I
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get word to back channels they like it a lot and they want to give it to Jim Carrey now
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ouch you understand that this could happen at any time this is a classic behind the scenes and so
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people are trying to keep that away from me going the good news is they love it but they think Jim could take it like
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crazy because he was the biggest guy right there they'll give him 20 million
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dollars and uh and they talked to Adam saying as Santa was the producer of it and so
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he said I don't know ask Spade but I think Spade because he co-wrote it would
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rather be in it but then John Goldwyn I think it was John Goodman who's under
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Sherry you mentioned Sherry Lansing I think you mentioned her about School Ties yes so
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he called me and said you might have heard some rumors it was so weird and he said I apologize we're moving forward
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the way it is and I said you know John I get how business works hey you take me out of it if you could
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have Jim Carrey I get it it's really not personal yeah I'm trying to take it that
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way and uh he said no we're moving forward uh and let's do it and so that
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was such a wake-up call like those those conversations happen every day yeah and
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you just don't know it I shouldn't have known it but I found out he said you
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still want to do it I said yeah so we did it Brandon was very nice came in and uh so what did you do Dickie Roberts I
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was playing myself yeah oh you're the celebrity camera he was I was proving that I think I know celebrities because
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I grew up and I was wearing gloves and I was crazy but you know that child star thing could go
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there's really dark because they're kids and they get involved in all these crazy
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adults and uh and then there's the drinking and so we started in a skim job of making it but it was fun we we
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brought in a lot of child stars to do it and then at the very end you know some aren't with us anymore but it was it was
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very interesting to talk to them up front just and hear some of their real stories but we can talk about Brendan's
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movies again all right would you do you have any more things you want to share about Saturday Night Live before yeah I
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loved it it was a proving ground and it earned a stripe at the same time by the way I felt like I had it was a milestone
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absolute Milestone you feel like I think if I was just out there doing a show or
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doing a movie and when it's one of those things like the cover Rolling Stone or something
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where they go you they want you to host it it has to hit you like it does it's
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just it's not insubstantial at all and when you host that show you own New York
00:27:20
for an hour or so in a feeling that you get yeah oh it is oh it's the coolest
00:27:25
thing like you're a part of the city in a meaningful way that I wasn't anticipating the whole machine
00:27:29
everyone's trying to help you everyone's there to make sure you're okay that week
00:27:32
that I think it's about changing clothes it's mostly about it goes fast quickly
00:27:38
running around features not trying to bump your head into the overheads basically yeah you would be in danger of
00:27:44
that at your height there you go then you can put bumpers on it like oh yeah they have bumpers tennis
00:27:52
balls because you're sprinting sometimes the studio in the dark naked essentially
00:27:57
naked underneath the seats of everyone watching so there's all these asses above you and you're like crew guys are
00:28:04
walking by they've got me stripped naked this guy walks by the cigarette Spade I
00:28:07
thought you're going to start working out I go get out of here I would just close my eyes I'm so humiliated by just
00:28:12
a little underwear on it I I was completely bare chested everything there comb my hair they're picking at me and I
00:28:17
just closed my eyes and this can't be here I wear two speed I was in case my
00:28:21
main one breaks all right do you know the Hooter clamp it's a thing that keeps everything in place
00:28:27
it's called a Hooter clamp so that would spell data well you know that's a joke
00:28:33
my brothers and I had that as a running gag when we were kids I have three older
00:28:36
brothers like is that one of our sponsors we joke about the Hooter clamp brought to your mother
00:28:44
you got your Hooter clamp on it was just a joke you know I don't know there's
00:28:48
also you can put a trucker's buddy in there where you can pee during the show
00:28:51
that's real okay no three older brothers so oh oh wait an SNL so 97 I had gone I
00:29:00
know you probably looked for me for about a half hour I had gone by then and then Will Ferrell I think was there yes
00:29:06
cast it was sort of will maybe Molly Quinn Will Ferrell Tim Meadows he you were in a really funny sketch with
00:29:14
Cheryl Terry and Chris Katan where they went crazy in the gym like what you want
00:29:18
to work out huh you know that aggressive sexual dude the most committed sketch players ever probably and you were right
00:29:25
in there you know at the end come on you guys and every time you play along with
00:29:28
them they'd start screaming at you it was really funny like these people were
00:29:32
sexual perverts I'm the trainer okay I'll go with it when you want that you
00:29:37
want that and then Chris katam would go nuts on you very funny amen it's fun to be in that insane world of
00:29:45
like sketch and then you the second you're like taking a bow in your head going we got through it here's the crowd
00:29:50
it's live and they're ripping you going again you're the UPS guy in this one you
00:29:54
have a Russian accent oh there's another one you're looking like or even
00:29:57
worse if there's a sketch you fell in love with that one got cut no I know that's the between dress and error it's
00:30:03
heartbreaking yeah were you on the first delicious dish that's where the no not
00:30:08
the first one I was on it though but it did the Applause at the beginning I felt
00:30:11
like it was new when you were on it or maybe it was the second time I wouldn't
00:30:15
know what to compare it to but I think I think Peach Ready MP3 yeah balls sweaty
00:30:19
balls he was coming on with a little beard and glasses and plant sort of this quiet nerd playing very small about
00:30:27
squash or something like that that was me yeah okay yeah and what were there um yeah okay the scary thing is
00:30:36
good times good times was that it good times yeah yeah good to know read this a little harder hey because writers get to
00:30:42
be directors on SNL I had a hard time understanding that concept like who's the director who's the director and
00:30:48
someone actually pulled me aside everybody is the writers are the director you are the dude I wrote my
00:30:54
first sketch they go go in the booth and watch it I go what does that mean I'm
00:30:57
the director of it I don't know what the going on it's a great thing there
00:30:59
was it's you know when William Shatner came on he was so loose like during the
00:31:03
dress show or whatever he seemed like he goes well why why what I can't you know
00:31:08
because we're so under rehearse like it's ridiculous there's cucumbers yeah
00:31:12
why bother can't believe people take it seriously you can't rehearse you know so
00:31:17
it is just I loved it personally because I can get up in my head I love that it was so fast yeah okay let's just go less
00:31:24
time to think about it no time to think just go go but I'm jumping ahead to The Mummy now
00:31:29
the mummy the moment it's called the mommy I'm I'll see your mommy and raise
00:31:34
you the whale no we're getting to the whale that's the big the whale is a Big
00:31:38
Kahuna yeah all right but the mummy I liked it because say it again easy Ahab you know hunting
00:31:45
for the whale there's a giant franchise three huge movies um yeah that Brendan starred in in the
00:31:56
knots correct yes now what was your what was your biggest pain no let me see oh yeah
00:32:05
you don't have to tell us how much money you got paid I don't even honestly
00:32:09
recall to tell you the truth because most of it's gone now I I know the feeling
00:32:16
today yeah everybody comes and takes it all away do you remember making a million dollars my first million I
00:32:25
remember I don't know what it was but I remember a good conversation a good conversation first million well what are
00:32:30
you in that that's the thing is it a million in the bank people don't understand what's the check shock on
00:32:35
this one I remember my first paycheck and it was for 17 000 dollars on a pilot I did what the
00:32:43
net I went and picked up my check from the agency it said nine thousand dollars and I went to their accounting
00:32:49
department there's a mistake here and they pulled me a sign they're like no
00:32:52
kid you got to pay taxes you gotta pay commission okay you're out I mean if you get a million
00:32:59
you probably make and it sounds crazy people because a million is so much but when you walk with 375
00:33:05
000 you go you round down to 25 cents on the dollar yeah because you got agent management to get used to the gross
00:33:11
figure and your friends hear the gross yeah right I drove to an agency once with my wife and I think it was a 30 000
00:33:17
check for a pilot and we're like we're rich it's over babe we went in it was
00:33:22
like 1300 you know I tried to give her a hug differently you said you were red yeah
00:33:30
just kidding honey I got it at some point and I was so excited about it and okay and my question on the mummy were
00:33:36
it was early and CGI kind of yeah it well it was the tip of the spirit ilm with John Burton Running Oh I am okay
00:33:44
and they had done a lot of uh stuff with I'm gonna say like Terminator yeah uh um the not like the creature from um
00:34:00
close it was uh it was Jim Cameron's water movie oh I remember that the abyss
00:34:06
yeah I got it that was pretty good that was good dude because I know a guy who was in it Todd something yeah anyway
00:34:14
um but it was a big gamble because the first of all nobody had no idea what the movie was going to look like is it a
00:34:19
comedy in a way because everyone's comparing it to happen Costello and it's
00:34:22
throwback to Mommy blah blah was it a horror film was it was it Indiana Jones was it an Adventure film was it a
00:34:29
romance was it a [Music] um John Hannah oh yeah see oh yeah he was your your guide or something yeah he was
00:34:47
her brother my brother-in-law my nerdy well brother-in-law they call him popcorn movies today right just fun
00:34:53
that's right what was it fun to do absolutely a little bit scary a little bit romantic Thrill Ride funny like I
00:34:59
want to do it again yeah do you get hurt ever not on that one just my feelings one reason or another
00:35:10
wait how are you with reading reviews throughout your career did you get uh iron uh ding by it or I'm terribly
00:35:19
sensitive if anything says anything slightly negative early on it was um you wanna
00:35:25
slap me in my bulbous face says some writer in Portland Oregon I thought that's fighting words I'm gonna come
00:35:32
find you bro but it's hard to not take stuff like that personally yeah but I
00:35:38
would always feel like um I would root around and look for the good ones but I didn't know if they held
00:35:44
any currency sift through yeah I get hurt by Instagram comments on social media are you crazy yeah a painful
00:35:51
indeed is vindictive speech is a theme of the whale say that again painful indeed is vindictive speech
00:35:59
I saw that on a plaque outside of a temple and Thailand years ago in front of a giant golden recluse well earlier
00:36:05
in your career if you get something negative it can affect your career and you know it and then later
00:36:11
when you've gone through some stuff it's a little if you're if you feel a little
00:36:14
more resilient you know you can withstand the storm but if if early on you do something and
00:36:20
people are negative or Rotten Tomatoes or all that it just it's such a wispy
00:36:25
career where it could just wind blow away from you and you're like wait I'm a
00:36:28
big deal I think it's worse when you've had some success and then you get dinged
00:36:32
and they use that success you can juxtapose how you're not successful anymore because I've had my trails with
00:36:38
that but then I you kind of go back to you know Tom Hanks said there's no crying in baseball there's no being
00:36:45
bitter in show business because the entire thing is designed to make you better I met so Mickey Rooney was the
00:36:51
most bitter man I've ever made I was the number one star in the world you hear me
00:36:56
bang the world you know so I knew early on okay everything is about Showbiz is designed to make you feel better so I'm
00:37:03
gonna choose either to pretend or just remember that we're privileged that we
00:37:08
we paid a dollar to do this let's do this yeah that's they're up it's like
00:37:12
they're paying me to do this that's how I failed early on because I would be
00:37:15
doing this anyway even if you didn't because I didn't know else what else to
00:37:18
do Tony Randall told me that did he we get paid to do this and he was like 85 of this yeah never lost the Wonder in
00:37:24
all of that that's why I like people do regular jobs because I go we need them I
00:37:29
can't do it I can't do Jack's agreed and I appreciate it I was a busboy got fired three times
00:37:36
um but in in the mummy first of all the mummy looked fun like you said it was fun but doing stunts you
00:37:43
must have had to do some in the Mommy and then you said you got choked out pretty good on like day two or three
00:37:48
there was a hanging sequence and hanging from the neck no I'm out well didn't they have you in
00:37:55
a harness and you know they didn't because they were trying to get the shot before lunch that's what happens scene
00:38:02
and you blacked out did they fire the stunt coordinator no he was too important and plus I could still be
00:38:08
replaced it was early on in the schedule so you know we we're running around
00:38:13
going we still have jobs we do but you know we could be replaced Hannah was like that all the time like well no I
00:38:19
can't believe it don't tell them they'll send me back law school I don't know
00:38:22
what I'm doing oh I still got a job they can't fire me now it let's do this
00:38:27
you can't you can't it's hard to complain on the set you don't want to be
00:38:30
a complainer I got choked out because the Rope was on my neck Stephen said hey it's a medium shot uh um it doesn't look
00:38:38
like you're hanging because they already shot the Y to the stunt man in the harness and he went bang it looked great
00:38:43
you know we need a moment and then they go in on the coverage of Rick choking choking did one shot came in and he said
00:38:49
hey um look it doesn't really look like you're you know dying can you really like dial it up and
00:38:56
all right I didn't like what was happening anyway so we went for another take and I remember watching the camera
00:39:02
was on tripod came around there's a guy screaming off camera and I remember look
00:39:06
I could see the matte box and I thought okay I'm Really Gonna sell the hell out
00:39:09
of this and I made up what would really make me look like I'm choking like I'd
00:39:13
been asked so I huffed air really hard and started hyperventilating and held my breath so I thought I won't get really
00:39:18
big red veins popping out of my eyeballs and all that this is just thing you could do if you're right
00:39:23
these are being choked off and the guy holding the Rope above me on the scaffolding was the stunt man and he
00:39:30
brought up the tension and I was on my own feet on your toes on my toes and I had nowhere to go unless I was a
00:39:37
ballerina and uh and I I don't all I remember seeing is the map Box come around and then it was like you went
00:39:45
black and Iris closed like someone turned the dial down like and the next thing I knew
00:39:51
there is a British voice going Brendan Brendan and there was dirt in my ear and in my
00:40:00
teeth and it felt like my elbow is behind my head and the world was sideways I didn't understand it and my
00:40:05
shin really hurt and everyone was quiet as a drop of pin forget it they were screaming their heads on moments ago
00:40:14
earlier uh what just happened and it kind of dawned on me that these guys are medics they're trying to wake me up
00:40:20
everyone's looking at me it was um while it didn't hurt per se it frightened me
00:40:27
more than anything else and I didn't like having that feeling of you know being the Fallen team player when it
00:40:33
happens in hockey or football or something everyone gets quiet yeah yeah and I kind of had this emotional
00:40:38
reaction like yeah he did something wrong or I didn't know that's dead silence Simon runs over to me and he
00:40:46
goes all right man cool uh you're in the club same thing happened ml Gibson on Braveheart
00:40:55
I want to go home initial here press hard four copies we won't Sue all right oh I passed out he
00:41:05
was a great he is a great stunt car he went and he did a lot of really good stuff that we've all never heard I've
00:41:09
never heard of someone having that experience that would well apparently Mel Gibson did on a Braveheart like I
00:41:14
wanted you said let's do it again that's my bad male gifts how is Mel Gibson
00:41:21
Australian accents are difficult that was that was Keith Urban [Music] okay now I just want to touch on we're
00:41:32
making our way toward the whale yeah we are which is great I just wanna my wife and I were watching
00:41:39
the the affair on Showtime oh yeah which I think is a really really great show and then you come on for season three
00:41:46
yes and it's it's a precursor to your skill well or whatever you've done
00:41:52
throughout your career because think you must have got a lot of heat for that character Gunther this damaged uh
00:41:59
sadistic prison guard and all of a sudden there's Brendan doing his thing so I it really stood out for me and I
00:42:06
really reckon that's Ben Fraser I mean he's killing it so did you get that
00:42:10
feeling from that part the conceit for that was that um he was a doppelganger he was
00:42:18
the you know the bookending character and it straight lifted straight out of um creepy German fairy tale lore the
00:42:26
doppelganger is your other half doesn't necessarily have to be your twin other
00:42:31
half but looks like you and is there to teach the protagonist something about themselves and they're doing it through
00:42:38
the use of violence so that was Gunther and that's evidenced in the rashaman
00:42:43
quality of swashman's story quality of like what really happened from different
00:42:46
perspectives that the affair was structured on when you would pick up little clues of
00:42:53
all right uh no it's was it no yeah Noah's Car Guys no yeah his car got bashed into by Gunther who's trying to
00:43:00
chase him down he saw him the rear view mirror but he pulls over and he thought it was a
00:43:05
vision but the camera pulls back and there's um no damage on the bumper so did it
00:43:10
really happen or not and then buy stories and he gets out of jail and confronts him in
00:43:18
his own home and it turns out the guy may have just been a well-meaning social worker all along you know he worked in
00:43:24
the jail and want to make sure that the inmates had a structured plan win there if they got out and he was confronted by
00:43:30
him on his own front lawn and you should be left wondering did that really happen
00:43:35
that way and I think that was the Perfection of that show because they did that in so many ways from retelling a
00:43:43
story from different characters perspective her point of view his point of view but it's interesting to me not
00:43:48
being any kind of sort of dramatically trained actor is that you do all this stuff prep work in your head and then
00:43:56
you just stand there as Gunther and we as viewers just know A lot's going on
00:44:02
this you've you're gone and this guy has got tons of going on so it's just
00:44:07
fun to watch thank you it's interesting to pick I appreciate it different places
00:44:10
to show up too like in the affair which is a hit show and then he's in there
00:44:14
just well that's why you never went away there's always these you're showing up
00:44:19
and really kind of high quality stuff throughout the what do you call it the post knots
00:44:27
around there yeah yeah so I did take a step back to slow down my life had taken a different path at that point too I had
00:44:34
had kids some I moved across the country um there's some legal action in my life
00:44:41
personally speaking and that you know for better or worse it's something you
00:44:45
must contend with and it takes your focus away from what your aspirations professionally are but you'd go mad if
00:44:52
he didn't have a job right so I always had something to do whether it was with
00:44:57
the affair or some other project and and also I don't know if I could have maintained
00:45:04
the level of expected success that I had had up until that point because you fall
00:45:10
out of favor if your film doesn't reach or no in magical number or something
00:45:15
like that and you don't know what the rules are you don't know if you've been
00:45:17
fired or you just won't be rehired yeah so you got to take it in control of yourself being someone who had a botch
00:45:24
bypass and had career difficulties you know so I just wonder how you process that period of not needing to go and do
00:45:31
it personally but it's sort of on record that you had troubles and various things
00:45:35
same with other people how do you does it how does it affect you now you look back at hey Brent you know were you
00:45:42
proud of you were courageous you made the right choice for everything that happened the way that it did because I
00:45:47
couldn't be the individual who I am now without having gone through the paces
00:45:52
that way before if this kind of acknowledgment that I'm seeing receiving right now it happened 20 years ago I
00:46:00
wouldn't have been able to I wouldn't have had emotional man tool belts of psyche to
00:46:08
deal with it I do now because I have a context I know why I do this it's because I've got kids now and that just
00:46:16
chemically changes everything that you every choice you make it's it gives it a
00:46:20
oh that's the reason why the rest of it was just about desperation and fun and
00:46:25
trying to stay with us I think that's where I'm at a trend desperation is fun
00:46:28
or staying with a trend that was that's the title of his Showtime special I took Brandon to find a good title for
00:46:36
me that's it so yeah it's sort of like your own mortality or you know knowing putting
00:46:42
your kids first in your brain all the time and for me when I did that too yeah well I was like oh you can really check
00:46:48
out here at any time you know so I was like oh please can I get to 60. because some checkout meeting you yeah
00:46:56
because my issues were at 42 I'm perfect now never had a heart attack that's all
00:47:00
it's in my book um it's called Dana and you look fantastic you look really healthy you
00:47:05
look hot uh thank you uh I know anyway but I was curious about that and that makes total sense and so you're you're
00:47:15
back at the table in a way and you're saying it makes sense all this emotionality went through in this whole
00:47:22
trajectory you're able to actually grasp it because I got an Emmy once and Bob
00:47:25
Hope handed it to me wow and I wasn't really there just you had another body
00:47:30
experience with him I had a body but I couldn't really me and Emmy I'm just
00:47:34
from you're like am I the good guy that's supposed to get an Emmy right now
00:47:37
when I look at her one's so great yeah when I was on the cover of Rolling Stone
00:47:40
I felt nothing I just like I didn't I couldn't grasp it I'm just saying that
00:47:44
you got that a little more because it kind of happened to me a little bit last night oh yeah the critics were you know
00:47:50
kind of no um yeah well can I can I say one thing about that thing offense again I just by
00:47:57
accident because he he was kind of doing TV movies yeah you know and then he read
00:48:02
the script to this will take very fast Hannibal Lecter whatever science the Lambs and he put it down after five
00:48:07
pages he said I didn't want to read anymore because I might not get the part
00:48:10
because it was so perfect wow and he thought he's he would think to say what
00:48:14
would it be like to be in a big Hollywood film well that must be amazing so he does Hannibal Lecter wins the
00:48:21
Oscar he's in Times Square he looks up Silence of the Lambs Anthony Hopkins lying around the block and he says and I
00:48:29
felt nothing oh so it's hard you're out of body in a way you're all these Awards you're getting
00:48:37
and 10 minutes to Innovations I would find it to grasp it you feel like you're
00:48:43
in a fever dream or something or sometimes but that's just my own insecurity coming to take over me and
00:48:48
the best advice I'm getting from friends and family and all that is just stay in
00:48:51
your own boots just take the moment in and I know that has value because I couldn't appreciate that stuff earlier
00:49:00
on I can now well I think that for all of us because you know I'll cry in my
00:49:05
car sometimes just like for a minute you know when just things overwhelm you and
00:49:09
David is there usually at the same time no but so when you're that raw with people and it's so authentic I know
00:49:18
that's such a cliche word now it touches all of us yeah because we're feeling the
00:49:22
weight of it you can't watch your acceptance speech and I couldn't by the
00:49:27
end of the whale too it was just so overwhelming and this so whatever doesn't you went through maybe informed
00:49:34
you to bring us these gifts it has to have kind of add value or gotten into your body and and the whale was shot
00:49:42
during time of covet also so you know this it was Tiny set two-bedroom apartment we rehearsed on a sound stage
00:49:50
of the taped out floor for one-to-one model so we really knew our jobs pretty well so one-to-one model so it's like
00:49:55
exactly exactly what this is like you would rehearse a play for instance Darren wouldn't even let us cross the
00:50:00
tape we had to use the entrance oh taped out entrance like there's a wall there
00:50:04
yeah either walk into the wall don't cross the day Darren oronsky Aaron officer Aaron him too I'm not good I
00:50:11
went to state school I'm not we're from Montana you know we don't put two and
00:50:15
two together too easily um Brendan Frazier's here I always thought just to touch on what you just said
00:50:25
it would be harder to me I think if you were on friends it's like a show like
00:50:30
that the first thing out of the gate is so huge yeah and you don't realize it's
00:50:36
not it might not be like that anymore how do you follow that and how do you follow it must screw with your head and
00:50:41
when you get like one line in something and then you get this and you sort of go
00:50:45
up and have everyone has career ups and downs that you do appreciate when it's
00:50:50
going good because you go it can go away you didn't know before but now I still
00:50:53
feel like someone's gonna walk in the door and accuse me of fraud basically and I have a what uh imposter syndrome
00:51:01
like I feel you feel like I should be feeling something I guess it's normal Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda said they
00:51:06
are well that's it every movie they haven't found me out yet yeah yeah yeah
00:51:11
yeah and I won't even do the impression I guess we're right on schedule then
00:51:15
guys we're yeah I I David tell tell him now listen people on this the whale got a
00:51:26
12-week Standing Ovation by the way I will say it's funny when I hear like a
00:51:32
three-minute standing ovation and six until I go what are these people doing do they bring a lunch because they're
00:51:37
clapping on are you sitting down because I loved it but I I have to go to the valet now like
00:51:42
yourself are you done I get it you liked it now my feet are hurting I was trying to
00:51:52
leave the theater when we and I thought we're almost out of the doors in Venice
00:51:56
and Darren's like no I'll get back take a bow I think really all right fine so I
00:51:59
did I took it back it wasn't but what you don't see is I was looking at 1200
00:52:04
people and they're all crying in their Italian and stuffing they're doing this
00:52:09
side you can't nut so was that a moment I was just curious about this when I see
00:52:13
that like you you do the movie so everyone's starting to get you hyped up I gotta admit hey you're you're awesome
00:52:19
at this thank you right it's starting to happen but then when you show it to an
00:52:23
audience and you get that kind of response then okay it's as great as people are telling me
00:52:29
right and so that see why that would be a Water Works moment maybe even more than because it's proof they actually
00:52:35
like it it's not just some agent or somebody telling you that it's good you're great are you having a sense
00:52:40
memory right now I was just um no no yeah because that no wait I am now now yeah because it feels like that
00:52:47
would be the first what was the first one that you showed it to where you were with the audience and they just Venice
00:52:54
1200 seat theater I don't have the number of seats but there were many many many and you have no idea how it's gonna
00:52:59
go I know that I've seen it I know that after you finish watching this film The
00:53:03
Credits roll and people are still rooted to the spot and I don't say that in the
00:53:07
same kind of like blown smoke kind of way agent's going we loved it man this
00:53:12
one's legit I was the whole time just riveting I felt like I needed to reconnect a few sockets and cables after
00:53:20
I saw and I'm in the thing you know it's not uh it doesn't let up um your daughter is wonderful Sadie
00:53:27
Singh Sadie sink is some stranger things you and her together is that energy is Magic the two she came in coming in hot
00:53:37
and she did not let up she was tough too she was tough the estranged daughter she's first thing Sadie is a genuine
00:53:44
article I watched this kid winning the game ball every single day at a front row seat she her Talent presages her
00:53:52
years I don't like where'd you come from and she um is this Darren describes her she's like
00:54:00
a jewel you look at it one way it's interesting and new and beautiful and all that there's something a new facet
00:54:05
and she was just consistent a stone cold professional in her um approach just always gold star performance I could say
00:54:15
nice things for the rest of her time here but Sadie um is also a young woman who has a big
00:54:22
family her father is uh a football coach he's got a handshake on him like like gripping a handful of channel lock
00:54:31
pliers are you a stone Mason like ouch and it's just him introducing himself
00:54:38
um so she comes from a real strong family and uh she um has this gift it has to be her
00:54:46
approach to playing this part was and I saw it it's she never went in for the Trope of an angsty teenager she
00:54:54
understood that this girl is talented as a character but doesn't know it yet she
00:55:01
has a lot of understandable rage that comes from her heart Charlie did something that really
00:55:08
really wounded this kid and he didn't have to pay the bill on it until it confronts him and lifestyle you invited
00:55:15
the building exactly so she comes back and she's she's demanding oh yeah to get
00:55:22
what she needs Sadie's um focus on that was never to crack never to crack never to
00:55:29
crack until the moment when the spell gets broken in a way when he finally crests his mouth kill them in jarrow of
00:55:39
making his apology to her and come see the film but you know that's that's the
00:55:45
moment I'm just thinking about that part because first of all I'll watch you from
00:55:48
different eyes my dad left when I was four and my brothers were six and eight so and he didn't come around and then he
00:55:56
came back later and he wanted to he didn't really want to make up he just came around and so I was the one sort of
00:56:01
pushing the reconciliation you know just because you don't have your dad and so there was
00:56:07
themes in that movie that hit me in different ways and also just the fact that it is just a very well crafted well
00:56:14
and the woman takes care of you Liz I think is her name yeah she was a magic as well in movies
00:56:22
that are brilliant that are great and I give it up to the writer director and all the performers Samuel you can't
00:56:27
imagine anyone else playing no any other part no that's one a great movie that's
00:56:32
always the sign of it no one else could have done what you did she hung I believe that character should have its
00:56:38
own movie I want to know who who Liz was at work and her other life because she just becomes such a likeable character
00:56:45
and there's more that Hong can say in between the lines in the pauses and the
00:56:52
silences than any of the dialogue she's speaking just by her face and how she
00:56:56
drinks in who she's speaking to almost as if like she's listening with her
00:57:00
pores or something well there's parts there and you can always tell us to cut
00:57:04
something out if it feels like it's too much but remember the part Dana we're at
00:57:08
she's talking about her truck and it's such a curveball like you're getting it from
00:57:13
all sides and it's just like oh my God what a mess ah that was tough to take all that so
00:57:21
listen it got me I kept starting and stopping it because I had to like gather myself Brendan I'm a comedic
00:57:28
performer I was doing sold out shows other people's words and uh big theaters and uh it was hard
00:57:35
to regain the funny bone but like you very talented and I got through it Dana I just want to ask uh
00:57:46
because I I'm fascinated uh how great movies get made I remember asking Joe Pesci once do you know when it's great
00:57:53
yeah how do you do it I mean what did he answer he goes hey you just you lock in
00:57:59
that's how you do it you just lock in you know he said something once that I knew he'd done he goes yeah
00:58:05
sometimes some guys don't want to fight you know what I say sugar bowl across
00:58:10
the nose and you could tell he's done that move he's only he's not a big guy
00:58:14
but it doesn't matter but he says you lock in so for me when you're when
00:58:19
you're shooting the whale how does Darren approach that so he's like he's
00:58:23
got these diamond gems you're in your you're you're just so locked in uh does
00:58:32
he does he do you a lot of takes you ask for more takes is he is he he likes to shoot a lot of takes and you know and
00:58:37
that's okay with you look we're all there once anyway you know we knew like
00:58:42
I said we knew our jobs from the rehearsal process so you made your discoveries and yeah your bonding made
00:58:47
your mistakes before you walk up and said you're just a bunch of actors showing up going hey you know it would
00:58:51
be really cool and looking at the sides every morning no we knew how to play the
00:58:55
music yes precisely and for that each uh each take because it's a tiny set it's a two bedroom apartment we're
00:59:05
like a submarine crew on top of each other and because of the just the exigencies of playing that character and
00:59:12
I I'm wearing a great deal of makeup and apparatus and costuming and harnessing
00:59:17
and you know whether it was a man whose body is big like Charlie's or if I was in an
00:59:25
alien costume or something they're really kind of the same approach it's
00:59:28
suit performing you know and so I think you know we're here let's just keep doing it again Darren he he
00:59:37
would just keep shooting me we were also shooting like everyone does now on digital so there's no more film there's
00:59:41
no magazine to change just keep going it's like a light switch just you're not
00:59:44
and you can do them on a loop and if something's off on a take just back up the camera and go again and
00:59:51
I think that would get him a lot of variety and um but in Hong's case he would just kind
00:59:57
of go okay well we already got it um you know what just show off impress me he loved her so much
01:00:05
it it it it was um it wasn't you would you would you would try and it was really finessing of many takes to find
01:00:13
out what's the best way to do it he was never shooting for variety with me at
01:00:17
least and you could almost do it different ways like you there's different colors and layers in each take
01:00:22
and you're like he's got to go back and pick which is the best one because
01:00:25
sometimes I think that was a good one the next one you go that was good at the beginning
01:00:29
oh we nailed that part you know on different movies but this this one I'm sure he's got in his head what he wants
01:00:35
it's hard it would be hard with that emotion which is a lot of your stuff and
01:00:40
humor it's very emotional to get through take after take you know that would be
01:00:45
harder for me because you have to say one day at a time I think you know you eat an elephant one bite at a time
01:00:52
um at least it was in one location was kind of nice where was it we shot in Newburgh New York um across the mighty
01:01:00
mighty Hudson it was frozen in that time of year so cold there in a Motorcycle Museum and the lower half and I'm sure
01:01:08
you've said this on press junkets but so it was three hours in probably and three
01:01:12
hours out four oh and how many to get out an hour but that's okay shoot for 12 minutes a
01:01:19
day I I actually I had a guy Kevin Jaeger who's brilliant on this a very goofy movie no one saw a master disguise
01:01:25
the lovemaster of this kind hey wait a minute let me get a can I record this guy
01:01:35
it was very very silly but he did he yeah like eight hours with me sometimes eight
01:01:42
honest yeah and what which character uh do you remember well it was the turtle man I I get well I'd get there at 3 30
01:01:49
or 4 sometimes he would spray tobacco very detailed on my hands and stuff was he built what are they putting
01:01:55
appliances on you appliances on when I did um quit from Jaws you know Robert Shaw go
01:02:03
in the water that was a big one you know to look exactly and I'm so I'm encased
01:02:08
in rubber I don't know if you had a situation like I'll ask you in a second
01:02:10
and they said Barbra Streisand's here today because James Brolin was playing
01:02:14
the father so I had lunch with Barbra Streisand but I'm in full prosthetic Robert Shaw make up the whole time there
01:02:22
was no time for me to get out so do you have goofy agents or people come by you're completely Charlie you're fully
01:02:28
your guy and then you're talking you're in the and you're talking as Brendan
01:02:35
there was yeah there were moments of that but if we weren't like in the production or the family there weren't
01:02:40
many visitors anyway they're actually zero because it was yeah coveted restrictions and all that
01:02:45
um I think I think David for May 24 came around just put his head into my cooling
01:02:50
tent and say hi you know like cooling tent yeah I did I had a cooling problem yeah
01:02:57
um because you can't like get up and run to lunch you have to I needed to be
01:03:00
wheeled the 70 or so Steps From the chair or two to the chair to the side yeah I won't say anything more about the
01:03:06
movie but yeah I could see that we're talking about the movie The Whale yeah
01:03:10
which is uh doing very very well at box office wise I've read I mean it's
01:03:16
getting a big audience for an indie film it's hard to make yeah adult thoughtful
01:03:22
dramas at the moment I hope they'll turn around it used to be that's all you
01:03:25
could make if you wanted to do something small it was a thinky piece that went to
01:03:29
a film festival and then you hoped for distribution or something like that but well with streaming and all the
01:03:35
different ways to consume content after after rehearsal how long did it take after what after you were done with
01:03:42
rehearsals how long did it take to actually shoot it I think we had like 30 something days not including the
01:03:46
weekends but you know 30 32 days but we shot mostly chronologically which was really helpful that's fun yeah
01:03:52
I wouldn't say it's a fun movie but I'd say that sucks [Music] oh good is good I I'm wondering when the
01:04:03
first time you did the makeup test and you became the character and when you looked in the mirror you know obviously
01:04:10
the thing is just start to go what was your reaction was it emotional almost it was actually funny you should ask yeah I
01:04:17
think before well the first one the first test was at the protozoa office and Adrian Moreau is the designer of
01:04:21
this makeup he's brilliant and um getting into it for the first time you know I was Big labor to get all the
01:04:29
parts of Montreal and all that and Derek looked over my shoulder and he said for the rest of your life
01:04:40
that's what I thought what's that mean and then I thought I know what you mean
01:04:44
actually because you can't really Divorce Yourself from me creating this character For Better or Worse okay
01:04:51
remember it yes you can be remembered for something for the rest of your life for any number of reasons well there's
01:04:56
never been a movie that explored people suffer from obesity not in this way no I
01:05:01
was I thought about this long and hard I I remember not this way yeah the closest
01:05:06
I could think of and this might be reaching for it was Dom DeLuise in fatso it was really emotional too yeah and and
01:05:17
I I brought I drew inspiration from John Candy in Planes Trains and Automobiles yeah you recall when they were in he was
01:05:25
deriding him and he says go ahead you can I'm a big guy you take a shot at me
01:05:28
yeah but I like me my wife likes me I'm good enough I mean and he looked like he
01:05:34
was gonna crack in that moment and he probably was and that was a beautiful piece of acting right there I don't
01:05:39
think we've seen that kind of sensitivity attached yeah owning who you are when you live in a larger body like
01:05:44
that yeah and I I love that he was a college professor you know and and there was a heartache always underneath almost
01:05:52
the entire it was just there you didn't have to play it even you were being light like you're being light with
01:05:57
everyone you're saying I'm sorry and but you know what I was all in really your
01:06:00
face so the suit kind of uh goes away because you're just watching you to see
01:06:05
what's the hoop because in the absence of it you know being a success with our
01:06:09
finely tuned Brands seeing makeups versus CGI creations and you can tell where the dotted lines are and you
01:06:16
automatically go you have to make a decision about suspension of belief I'll
01:06:20
let that one slide and but with this it was a straight ahead analog makeup yeah with the exception of
01:06:27
maybe a light um digital Curative if like a piece of fabric on your shirt it was acting up in its own movie or
01:06:33
whatever that would fix that later or there was a scene when on the bib sort of shape or the collar when Charlie goes
01:06:38
down the hallway you go to bed he takes his shirt off before and you know anyway that that was the full
01:06:43
suit was very heavy and um you know anyway apart from that what you see was what you got but if it didn't
01:06:49
work there was no movie and the rule was this is a makeup and costume that will obey the laws of physics and gravity
01:06:59
it um it will not be what we've seen so frequently which is uh a foam Light phone Halloween costume kind of
01:07:11
silhouette is that an athletic actor wears and you sort of defy gravity and bounce around the way and yeah you know
01:07:16
I mean that's that's a different movie it's a different genre I have mixed
01:07:19
feelings about what's funny about that and what's not no you look like it was
01:07:23
very belabored to do anything that guy was Ill he was not well you really I mean when you were wheezing and and you
01:07:31
know I felt suffocated you know I was really in when he the heroic moment with his daughter where he's I don't I don't
01:07:38
want to give away the ending but when he gets up that was just that put me in a puddle of Tears I'm I'm feeling it right
01:07:44
having the strength to get to your feet yeah and do what you need someone who loves his daughter so much and it's
01:07:50
impossible and he's going to do it anyway and anyway you should see it folks if you like great drama if you
01:07:58
like great movies my God I think we should let him go on his flight Brandon's a very nice dude and uh on the
01:08:10
way to go to uh more stuff in London anyway well on a just a another human note everyone you know there's so many
01:08:18
awards in our lives growing up you know you're a Canadian as you can play a little yeah
01:08:24
speak French but there's the Academy Awards I mean you've already nominated
01:08:28
Golden Globe You've Won Critics Choice I don't know how many more they'll be but
01:08:33
do you let your mind wander to that idea no I can't I don't want to get ahead of
01:08:38
myself I can't read those tea leaves any better than you me or anyone can I I
01:08:43
laugh at the prognostication that goes on because nobody knows nobody knows anything no it's always a simple
01:08:51
introduce yourself of having the inside track you do not I know nobody knows you
01:08:58
do have to keep that attitude yes you know right it was Herman Melville who wrote I know not all that may be coming
01:09:04
but come what will what may I will go to it laughing yes I lived by that from since Venice and now a few other maxims
01:09:14
and idioms along the way another one being foreign is the parent of fear it's better to know better go towards
01:09:26
the risky things that were reticent to know about or learn about so they have a fully formed opinion about a more
01:09:34
well-informed opinion than just ignoring it and condemning it early on and remaining
01:09:39
frightened yeah that's again Melville 1851. Moby Dick exactly with Gregory Peck
01:09:47
tattoo god is a little kid was always Blown Away about it did you just do Gregory Peck Gregory Peck I've kissed
01:09:53
bigger lips than yours I'm Gregory Peck I'm Henry Fonda I can do these guys but no one knows what they
01:10:00
talk like yeah I know a lot about a gif projector now you're a Polaroid Channel
01:10:06
GAF anyway I just do the voices but you know those Rich Little voices those old movie stars the only one you could do
01:10:15
now is Jimmy Stewart because of It's a Wonderful Life kid came up to me hey you
01:10:20
did It's a Wonderful Life guy but the rest are the rest are fade now they don't know who they are they have no
01:10:25
friends I still do Nixon in my act it seems to too can we get a taste is that the standard higher that's it no
01:10:38
that Nixon was a good go-to Alderman and Dean they were the ones but let me down
01:10:43
that path well good luck to you I think anything happens from now on as I all gravy so Brendan
01:10:50
um great talking to you could I I'll give you one little thing and I'll do it
01:10:55
fee five full form I smell an Oscar nomination oh God sorry he's laughing about it just in memory of my late
01:11:08
mother who loved the church lady because she was church she was church lady oh that's funny wow wow wow we're up there
01:11:16
getting our Awards aren't we we think we're a little bit Superior to a little
01:11:20
man I like to call Jesus we like ourselves don't we we're having a good old time at the party circuit
01:11:29
where alcohol is served and the there are plenty uh yeah I don't know where she came from
01:11:36
but that's that's I'm I'm flattered that your mom got some joy out of that
01:11:41
character and my mother-in-law's Irish Catholic loves it they would have gone
01:11:46
along great they loved it no one took offense to it even in the Bible Belt they just loved but it's just fun to be
01:11:53
superior we like to talk on our a microphone tell me David we've got a podcast we feel Superior I don't know
01:12:01
but um Brandon Frazier um exudes likability I'm so happy that he's laughing yeah right now because
01:12:09
it's been he got me David David saw a little bit we laughed but so I saw the whole thing you jackass
01:12:16
the whale well just everything here when we started thinking about that last moment in the film it still gets me that
01:12:23
I don't want to talk about that because it's part of the movie but I just always
01:12:27
gotten all across the board I kept stopping because I was like oh my God this is catch me off guard yeah so what
01:12:33
what can we how can we sum up we just we appreciate you I mean the whole world is
01:12:37
as you know it just loves you like everyone's so happy to see you it's not
01:12:42
always really nice and I know that it is you've been through everything and it's
01:12:46
it's just seems well that's Show Business and then there's life and it's
01:12:49
it's hard to you know kind of puff yourself up at this point and go hey damn right you
01:12:54
know I will never let that and it's never going to happen but at least my I would just hope just enjoy it as much
01:13:02
you know as much as you can I appreciate it write it out yeah if people will say
01:13:06
nice things to me sometimes and I'm like oh okay you're blowing up dang that's my
01:13:10
sister you're blowing up again really I don't think so but so I know but for you
01:13:17
uh your training and what you've shared with us about your you know quoting Melville and what you're doing you know
01:13:24
I mean that's the true path like what's you know what's the work you know in the
01:13:29
end of the day yeah you did this brilliant piece of acting in this film that's all we have thank you look I
01:13:35
summed it up all right and what I have a business manager to introduce to you you
01:13:41
have any advice no he's doing good so far yeah so anyway well good luck in these next few weeks going through the
01:13:47
circuit and you know we only wish you the best and we also really want to thank you for coming on our podcast it's
01:13:52
my absolute pleasure no it's uh it's it's very very flattering you got to
01:13:56
talk toward the end I thought that was a big deal we tried to interrupt I said to
01:14:00
David before let's let's cut them off 50 of the time we don't have to coach us on
01:14:04
that no we help you is there anything else you feel you want to say to the world because we have a really big
01:14:09
following thank you very very much all right fly on the wall with Dana Carvey and
01:14:15
David's big Brendan Fraser thank you hey what's up flies what's up please what's
01:14:21
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01:14:26
want you can email us at fly on the wall at cadence13.com okay here's an AMA guys
01:14:36
Danny get prepped first of all pick a sunglass David I'm gonna let you pick for this second
01:14:42
I don't mind the little no I like those bags okay love the podcast the recent Farley
01:14:48
tribute was great sent me on a YouTube deep dive of Farley's timing us now what a legend question for David you
01:14:54
mentioned a movie you and Chris pitched we're pitched shortly before we pass
01:14:58
called the tree do you remember specifics yes his name is Lance witchy pronounced like
01:15:05
Witchy Woman that's what he says okay the tree Dana was um a movie it was pretty typical of spade Farley formula
01:15:15
um I like this I was I was a stiff DC political guy climbing up like an assistant whatever
01:15:26
low man on the totem pole I'm getting married that's a week for my wedding
01:15:30
week for Christmas or whatever after Thanksgiving they say they want a tree to be delivered to uh
01:15:38
you know across the country I order it there's a big screw up it's my fault I
01:15:43
hear from the president himself you go get the tree and bring it back make sure it gets here
01:15:48
so I have to fly across country I have to get back for my wedding and Farley is the lumberjack that's in charge of the
01:15:54
tree and he wants to make 18 stops on the way there and I don't want to so we
01:15:58
fight along the way and sort of a good device kind of like train transplants and automobile like two Misfits on a
01:16:05
journey is that script still around it might be I is on a journey yeah I'm up
01:16:12
for Journeys and uh Melissa McCarthy I thought might be funny at one time for that but it just sort of went away we
01:16:20
both had read it we had done you know we just done two so we thought let's give it a breather
01:16:25
but at the end we were like you know the tree was pretty funny we could probably
01:16:29
shape that or get somebody on that so anyway it didn't work out um but uh that was kind of what it was I
01:16:36
never asked you this but what was the difference you think in terms of like Black Sheep versus Tommy Boy and nothing
01:16:44
oh I mean did you sense that maybe Black Sheep wasn't because Wayne's World 2
01:16:49
didn't do as good as Wayne's World one but well the problem there was Tommy Boy
01:16:53
the quick story is uh which we're not good at quick stories but it um it sort
01:16:58
of fell into place Pete Siegel's director of Fred Wolf is on the set we're just adding jokes we're
01:17:02
just all screwing around so yeah it was light and easy and then the pressure in the second one second one we got your
01:17:07
director um from Wayne's World no Libby she's good and she didn't want me in Black
01:17:13
Sheep so and she's admitted this she said I wasn't good and she didn't like me and
01:17:18
Tommy Boy and she said she just went to a movie with Chris so she would do this movie oh well when the yeah and that's
01:17:23
when it's and she took 40 pages out of the script that Fred wrote and we all
01:17:27
chipped in on so we were more separated the movie and it wasn't as fun back and forth I still
01:17:33
like Black Sheep but uh I'm not here to hammer her down um I'm just saying no
01:17:37
I'm sure that's what it turned into I didn't mean to bring up something
01:17:40
negative I would just say that I think I better go budgets are also David if I could for a moment yeah budgets are also
01:17:46
can be the enemy of Comedy like so the first movie they threw Mike and I as Wayne and Garth on the hood of the car
01:17:51
and we're going did you ever be attracted to Bugs Bunny or whatever and it was like took 20 minutes yeah do you
01:17:58
ever yeah it wasn't over thought if she she's a babe if she were present she'd
01:18:02
be Abraham Lincoln so it was just one Tech go away second movie it was like a three-day shoot multiple cameras around
01:18:08
that car for our CGI sucking and squeezing the life out of it so anyway no one's fault and a lot more pressure a
01:18:16
lot of more Cooks more pressure could be funny yeah over thought over tested um and so I still liked a lot of
01:18:24
black sheep and Chris was definitely funny in it but and there's some funny parts
01:18:28
um Penelope did add one thing I have to give her where we were in bunk beds and when she said I'm gonna do this thing
01:18:34
where he falls on you and I go we didn't shoot that knee she goes I did it with a
01:18:37
camera trick and when I saw it I was like there's no way I would even know that was a camera trick it looks so
01:18:42
real and so reverse I will give her that that was very funny and um yeah great additional joke uh which is what you're
01:18:50
killing for in those movies just get a house laugh so uh that's it and um thank
01:18:55
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