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okay we got Larry David one of our favorites that we've been trying to get for a little while but of course we know
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he doesn't like to do anything And uh he but he made it He came to the house actually insisted on He drove in and
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we're very flattered Is one of our the guest we wanted to always get possibly the most influential comedian or best comedian of the last many years But yeah
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he had a great sense of humor I do go off on a few bits I apologize for that Yeah I think the crowd will be just as
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happy as he was He was laughing so hard He's a great crowd Uh we we we touched on a lot of topics and uh Seinfeld curb all the usual things the usual suspects
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and some other stuff We sort of jumped around talked about the 50th talked about the 40th and now uh and talked
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about the 30th And we talked about Oh I did curve and I walked you through the process Mhm And uh overall I think we
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ended on a real high note He was laughing pretty hard So that was a real victory Mhm
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Yeah You'll see what happens Always say no Always say no It's the best the best advice you could give
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anyone Never I was just talking to somebody the other day They they go "Um why did I say yes to this Why did I
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say yes?" Mhm Everybody goes through that every day Yeah People cannot say no It's so impossible Well if you're turning down a lot it's a rhythm thing No No No Uh but at least you're known as
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someone that says "How many podcasts do you turn down in a year?" 300 I don't want to Over a thousand Over
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a thousand I don't want to sound immodest 2,000 There is uh Oh listen Nancy Reagan had it right Just say no And no one listened
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Yeah completely She was right on She was talking about drugs Well can I hear my Reagan He got his Reagan in By the way I'll I'll sit here for an hour and just listen to you Well I like
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this rhythm I'll see if you like this rhythm It's Reagan dealing with modern en enemies right Who are they What Tell
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who Benny what what they do to who Where When How Why Well then we have no choice Fire away with everything we got and
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then call them and see if they're still there There That was it I made Larry David laugh I've got I've got one for
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you that if you can do I would just I would ask you to do it every time I saw you Okay Um a younger Biden not the old Biden A younger Biden with that with
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that uh Baltimore I don't have one of those That Baltimore accent I know I know That's very specific You know that
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accent I'm talking about They did it in that uh that series What was it called Uh with Kate Winslet Oh Oh yeah Yeah
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Yeah This something may Yeah Yeah Yeah They had that They all had that accent He's got some of that right This never doesn't get a laugh in standup And I'll do it over and over again to the
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audience No I mean serious And I say to the audience I will keep doing it until you don't laugh I'm getting around here I'm serious See
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you're so lucky that you can do that stuff because I don't have jokes Well I mean if if something you do isn't
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working then you just you make them laugh again You always have a laugh at your disposal Most standups don't have
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that laugh at their disposal It's terrifying to go up and if you don't have a go-to something right Dana's got
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great stuff And also you can put a 10% joke in an impression and it's worth 100% And just ride the rhythm I put on
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my notes Stay Stay here Don't be in a hurry Stay here If it says Ross Perau you're going to do him forever Or
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Anthony President since Calvin Cool He doesn't The crowd's like "Yeah they freak out." But a young Biden that's a challenge Yeah You do FDR
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we uh No no I'm doing JFK We don't do it because my bid on JFK now is that we he
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needs an AI Bobby needs an AI That his his voice will then go to JFK's voice Oh Bobby's Yeah Because we all sound like Bobby if we smoke pot in high school Be like I can't believe what the
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pharmaceutical companies are doing You know introducing JFK AI We uh understand that the pharmaceutical companies are doing I'm just going to do this all afternoon Oh come on I'm I'm you know
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I'm thoroughly entertained They have to finish them to listen to this Go ahead See if you can say we don't do it because it's easy We do it
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because it's hard We're the right age group Yeah Cricket crickets up here They know Um Yes So so you're settled in You said
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yes You're here Do you need anything I'll open some water here Mhm We got you some of the high uh fancy water from
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your writer [Laughter] has any human perform What about those people who they want like grape jelly or something Have you ever seen your writer
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I don't know if you do a lot of standup Have you ever seen your writer What are you demanding Me neither I feel like yours is a little below JLo but
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above Chris Katan Let's see what I've had people in tears coming at me I'm coming backstage for the gig We only have three towels Yeah I go I don't We couldn't find Triscuits I
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didn't see my rider I don't Anyway I I don't like to eat anything at all before I'm going on somewhere Not even a little bit of a bite of chocolate No nothing
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You still do stand up Do you go out and do like an hour No Uh last year I did um you know I was interviewed uh on
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stage On stage Yeah One of like these [ __ ] things Yeah Yeah Something like this Yeah
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Yeah That those are the best though because it's not really Yeah It's not stand up It's not that hard right Yeah
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Oh yeah I heard before the pandemic Julie Louise Trifus remember her You know her She um she was doing interviews
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Check out the call sheet You'll remember She was doing interviews for corporate events I thought "Oh man that's so
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nice." 20 minutes with the CEO Um the question that makes you the happiest and what's the question that is annoying for you I think I have an idea
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I think now the most annoying question is are you going to do another season GH Yeah Oh yeah Well uh now that we're here
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did you just say yes at the end Meaning you are You're not are you I I didn't know that your special was named Curb
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Your Enthusiasm Is that true Your standard special And then you borrowed that Yeah You took that in And was it
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2000 Has it been around that long Yeah God dang And you've had people on Curb that um went on to be bigger stars You actually got them early
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Yeah Who I'm asking you Me Well that's exciting No I do have a curve story for you Yeah You might have
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heard it because you were part of it But Dana I did this uh young man's show Uh it was one of the great fun things of
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life is to be on a show that's [ __ ] hit show everyone loves right you know everyone's sensibility Everyone in the
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future goes "Oh I want to do a show like Curve." That's the most common thing I hear It's 10 times more complicated than
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they can probably think It seems very easy looks easy Uh I think the fun part when I did it was the idea was you I don't know if you remember this you did so many but you wanted tickets to Laker
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Game and you used to work at NBC so you asked the president of NBC and they have two sets This is I think true anyway So
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they say "Yes give Larry two tickets." So you go with Jeff and you you're in the rafters and then you get the binoculars to see oh they have two sets of tickets and then you go who's on the
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floor where we wanted to be and he's sitting with me right and so you're like that [ __ ] why is Spade down
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there and why are we up here I [ __ ] I was on Seinfel so anyway we run into you
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guys leaving and and the part that I thought was interesting I didn't even tell Dana this but uh uh it's like the
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way I got the way I remember it was someone comes up to me and you in your I think we have the forum or wherever it
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is and I think that's how big of a production is you have that you have extras we did some at a real game I
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think we use those uh endeavor seats or whatever William Morris and then so we were at the real game and then uh
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afterwards we get a bunch of extras to stay and so we were leaving so me and the president of NBC are leaving and and Larry is coming out with Jeff and they come up to me and they go you're going to run into him so uh be apologetic
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something like that It was just an idea no lines And then they I go "And what's Larry doing?" They go "You'll find out."
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So then you guys decide what you want to do Obviously you decide And so we come in and we have like a fiveminute talk
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where I'm like "Ah sorry." Cuz you're like "Why would he be there?" I'm like "I don't I don't want to be a part of this." Whatever Whatever Then they go
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cut and then they come back and they go this one Defend yourself And it's so funny because you have 5 seconds So I'm
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like "Well whatever happens." And I don't know what you're going to do And then you're like "Why would he be there?" I'm like "Well we both were on big shows." And you're like "Well I was
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on Seville." I go "Well listen we're both top 10 shows We're both it it's kind of a push." And you're like "A push?" Well that just shoot me was the
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same as So anyway it just makes for a fun real fake argument whatever whatever And then they did like one or two more of different things Was a blast David it's
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um it's very interesting honestly for people to know that because the hard part for Larry is to go in there and uh
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decide which is the funniest version what line that that's just so complicated The greatest part I love is when I I can tell that you or the great
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Richard Lewis or Jeff Garland you're not sure you're doing a take because you're just talking and you
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might use it you might not I mean it's the absolute opposite of a traditional you know you know Larry Sanders was the
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first that I had an experience like that I first of all I would I never would have done a show if I had to memorize
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lines Smart It's too hard Yeah It's It's I don't I don't like it And I'm not really an actor And you have to be You
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have to be an actor to memorize lines I suppose I could do it but it wouldn't be fun Here I'm kind of making it up as
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we're going along And I don't know it's just I just laugh my way through 12 seasons I know that it's infectious to watch You know the last 20 years I don't
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think I've ever gone to any kind of meeting about any kind of show where you know it's going to be like curb or we're
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thinking like a curb type Has anyone even landed close to the sensibility And what is the secret You don't have to
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tell us here You can cut this part out Tell us if there is like one secret Tell us who's done it poorly first
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I I who's who's doing it I don't even know who's doing it The only thing I can think of is Larry Sanders in the 90s had
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a sense of three cameras going at all times 16 mm and Gary say you do this kind of or say something like this you know Oh they improvise a lot at least when I was there But but I don't think
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it was quite like yours where like you're so improvised Whatever you have it's working Don't even Yeah Hey are you going to do another season No No
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Is there anybody you asked to do curb that didn't do it Like some star that you wanted I I think there were some
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people who were just weren't down with the idea of improvising Yeah Some are like to do the lines They're they more comfortable Yeah More comfortable It's hard to make lines your own That's hard
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when you're doing shows and movies That's why they sometimes feel stiff because if you can just play off what's happening at that second and the
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attitude that's way more fun It is hard to do though I mean the worst thing that actors did on the show is if they would
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try to be funny Yeah Or they come and going "I'm trying to come up with like funny lines." Not No Yeah The hardest
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part I've seen even on like for Adam and Sandler on those movies is a lot of people that come on that have never
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worked with them first of all proclaim their funniness which is always a red flag And then they come up and say "I
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had some ideas for the scene." And it's it for you to be the creator And they and you can't blame anyone else and you
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have to say no So when they come to you and go "Larry I thought I'd play it more I got a guy that talks like this." And you got to go "Oh fuck." Can you just
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don't do that It's a hard position to be in No it's very easy Okay I was trying to help you a little
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bit It's not hard at all No that's that's not good Don't do that Okay I've got two and they would slink away and go "Fuck." Sometimes sometimes at auditions
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um actors would would try and cry I go "Oh god no Stop." No No Oh man I The two metrics now have a line that's written that someone has to say And don't anybody
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ever be caught trying to be funny unless the character is trying to be funny Yeah
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Yeah That's different But none of that winking It's a real Rubicon You can really feel it in sitcoms when it just
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pushed I like it good I'm just saying I'm a fan The stuff that's played like in a wide shot is always good Sometimes you get on
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a movie and they go we D and I talk about this You get you get too locked into two shot one shot pushing pushing
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and you're losing all the momentum and all the fun of it and it looks too stiff back forth back Sometimes it's nice
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those old Woody Allens or whatever Even Tarantino in a wide shot just two people talking looks real You've got to figure
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out where to look instead of going look here look there We got it We got we we we seen it The Woody Allen thing is a
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little scary cuz I did I did Oh you did a couple What was the name of that movie
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It's called a couple Dana Yeah What What Whatever Yeah Yeah Anyway I did one Once
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Upon He doesn't remember And you know because he does these take you got to get it all in one Mhm And the whole take I'm going I got four more
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lines to go I'm not comfortable at all because I h You can't make a mistake There's no
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cutting Yeah Um after my first take the first day of filming after the first take he comes up to me and he goes "Not terrible." And now I use that every time somebody
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asks me "How are Yeah How you doing?" I go "Not terrible." Yeah That's good Medium place to be Robert Mitchum told me that the guy who played Tarzan because Robert Mitchum was a
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guest host He was the host at SNL I go "Hey how you doing today?" He goes "Worst." I go I go "Worse Why do you say
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worse?" Cuz I think it was Lex Bar some guy who played Tarzan He came out of his trailer and said "I feel great." And
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then did a header you know So ever since then he just says worse That's I love that
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[Music] Oh you did tough guys Is that the one I did so much [ __ ] I was so bad It's I
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have a hall of fame So bad I can't say lines 175 times between all the takes and all the close-ups And by 4 in the afternoon you first said the lines at 7 a.m And by 5:00 it's not even English
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Going in tight on Dana You guys got some uh heads of hair on you the two of you You know best hair money combined When did you know Did you ever think like "Oh I'm going to have all of my hair for the
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rest of my life." Did that did that thought occur to you at some point Um yes Um I had a pretty good head of hair First of all it went way up in these
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corners that are covered right now when I was in my 20s So I went to a barber He goes "It's you're going to be gone by
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30." What Really Yeah Barber got to saw it going back It goes "But it went back and then it stopped." Wow Very rare And
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then Yeah And then I do take a little finestide What's that I'm sorry It's stuff that keeps your hair What does that do Keeps your hair in your head Really Yeah Matthew McCanni does it All
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right All right Right Right Dude I grew up I put motor oil Everything I could find I threw in my hair just trying every trick in the book It's so horrible Well let me just explain that because it we'll get we'll
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get letters Oldfashioned parllets Um dosage matters with any med you take I had this woman she was trying to do super vegan and she was amazing She was 87 I go you could have some salmon Oh no
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I can't Well I tried a statin and I had terrible side effects Would you ever think of taking a lower dose Ask your
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doctor So she lowered the dose took her cholesterol no side effects So the same thing with finasteride People were
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popping it like candy Then they had sexual side effects depression You just need a little bit to keep the hair in
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your head and it will grow You had to give her that advice What The doctor couldn't tell her that She couldn't read
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the back of the bottle Doctors are not really Most of them are just high school seniors that have a lab coat on They don't know anything Most of them they're terrible I mean right I mean do you what
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Doctors Yeah I still have great faith in them Yeah Yeah Dana Interesting Yeah I look at you all They're doctors Dana Doctors I know I used to bow down We were talking about the to a contractor
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or a landscape architect We'll put a big tree right in the middle of the grass Why Well you need it No you don't Well
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you know you can never have a doctor as a friend because you'll lose all conf because see you see they're so human How
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could you You don't You're kind of stupid actually in life Well you can read the same stuff they're reading You
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can read NA NIH You can read Harvard whatever You can read everything the doctors do You can Why are you reading
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that I do I do You do A lot If I have an issue of something yeah I'll look it up
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I have stain of Don't you ever research stuff I don't want to read anything medical It'll just scare me I never I
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never look at anything medical When you do get this when you go to the doctor they talk about everything jokey except
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for what's wrong with you Like they come in how's it going What's been going on You've been on the road I'm like I've
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been sitting here for 49 minutes waiting and I know I've got a six minutee window with you Like let's get to the stuff And
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then uh there last second Oh right Bend over and stick your finger in your ass Okay Sorry I almost forgot that part
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Did you ever do a prostate exam joke No Yes I didn't think you would Oh I thought you were talking to me Oh yeah
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Oh yeah The cheesiest one that always gets I don't do I've never done one I never written one but what the one that
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made me laugh the most was "Look ma no hands." Yeah I mean that that's a stock joke It wasn't mine Yeah No the the the joke that you try to bury into real life is
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when I was playing the Mirage I go "David Copperfield was in the steam room I I milked it out so long." And they go
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"He was in the steam room." And I go "Yeah." And he's sitting next to me but his towel slid off He He was just
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sitting there weird And he goes "Hey I" He goes "Uh" I go "Can you do magic now that you have nothing here?" And he goes
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"Yeah." And I go "It's not real." And he goes "All right quickly." He goes "Uh get up." He gets behind me and he goes
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"All right do you feel my thumb in your ass?" And I go "Yeah." And he goes "Tada reaches around me." So standing it was sort of magic
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That's funny That's funny Do Did you ever um do a Hitler joke You do a lot of Hitler jokes I'm not talking about the
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editorial but just because everyone has a Hitler joke What's your best Hitler joke I did uh I used to do one in in
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standup Um it had to do with about uh Hitler going to a magic show That's already funny Anything Hitler does And he goes
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backstage after Mhm And he's very insistent on on finding out where the rabbit is And you know magicians have magicians have a code They they don't
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they can't tell how the tricks are done And Hill is going "Where's the rabbit I'm very curious Where's the rabbit And
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he goes "Well my fur you know we we not really allowed to It's just a code amongst me." Yes Yes Yes But V is the
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rabbit It was something like that Yeah I forgot the rest of it Where was it Did you do that in the 99 special I did Yes I remembered it Yeah Mhm Do you have a Hitler joke Uh you know write one I
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don't think I have one because Oh you know I did have a book when I did my first book Oh a couple people remember
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Thank you Um is it was I used a picture of me when I was five years old My mom had me in a little blue suit with white
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hair down to here and it was a weird shot down on me in front of my old apartments and I'm just standing so
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stiffly that I said "What if we called the book Mr Hitler We'll see you now." Because I was like a 5-year-old kid
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looked like a little uh Aryan And um it got universally no So uh and I'm kind of
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glad because I sort of skim over stuff I'm from Arizona We were never into religion We were never into many things
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that could be very offensive And so we joked about everything racism all this So sometimes I would stumble in my act and say things too far and someone would pull me aside and say "I wouldn't say that anymore." And I wouldn't know how
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deep these things went or hit and I'd be like "Okay." So it took me a while even on that one it was a little late in the
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game but uh to even say "I should do that." But Hitler gets thrown around and it
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just it offends too many people I'm not Jewish I did a Hitler bit I was doing a benefit for Cedar Sinai cardiology
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department and I did a Hitler bit A guy had actually put a stent in my chest go do you know where you are You know and I
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do you want to hear it Yeah Go It's not a bit It's an observation because I thought I don't have any original observation about Hitler and then I
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thought of one and I want you to tell me you've never heard it before hopefully or you've heard it before All we do is
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see Hitler throughout history history screaming We never see him talking normal He m we do this for a living He must be exhausted backstage Just wiped
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out almost a feminite Oh him a kind of deltoid Whoever said to do this shoot him He gets off stage and goes the heads of the green room and he's like they were good They were pretty good But just
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exhausted Hitler Langangerous Ging Lof Yeah that's great Don't fat shame yourself I have a cookie I eat it I put the plate down You have a good cookie Your brain throws a party You have a 100
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cookies So he breaks down you know addiction to carbohydrates Funny Okay Hitler's green room What's on his rider All right I look at my notes There's literally no notes to ask anything It's
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too Go ahead Dana Whatever you got Well I know this will make you happy Um Jaylen Bronson Brunson
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Yeah New York Knicks Yes Yes Right in the throat Stephen A Smith and LeBron Who would win if they went because we we think we know but Stephen A Smith isn't
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tiny I mean I would get snapped in half by LeBron A Stephen A Smith would get snapped in half Yeah LeBron is a beast
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man It's unbelievable What is he doing I don't know He's 40 years old It's just incredible what he's doing Yeah If I had
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that money I think and he's already like such a perfect specimen athlete I don't
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know what I would do I don't know what I would obviously pour it back into trying to stay alive top 100 I look at Brad
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Pitt and I go I don't know what's going on but if something no one's going to get to regular Brad Pitt he looks even
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better now I'm like [ __ ] that That's like cheating He goes he could have been fine skating along And if he did I don't
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say he did because mostly just jealousy and anger but uh if he did something I'm
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flying to that guy and just saying "Do whatever you got to do because someone told me on my comments it looks like I
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slept on my face." And those sting Larry you're supposed to let him go And uh Well you look kind of the same Yeah you look like 45 years Cuz when did your your hair But when did it go white How
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old It probably started in my um probably in my late 30s Wow That was a joke No but Steve Martin the same thing You look He looks kind of this was like 12 I'm working on this
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baby face with bangs I'm going to be 70 in a month Hair messy Really You're going to be 70 in a month Yes Thank you
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Larry Wow For being surprised I'm very comment Isn't that a great compliment when people are surprised and
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you tell them your age Yes it is But when you tell them eventually you say "I'm going to be 70 a month." They go "Oh." You're like "Really?" Just an O Yeah It looks Can I
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get a really Andy Samberg said "You're going to be 70." I go "Thank you Andy." Yeah It's a great compliment Okay I have something you may not have heard before Tell me if you have Carol Leafer was on
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our show Okay and she's talked about you and Jerry the dynamic and she said "You're John Lennon
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and and Jerry is Paul McCartney." Have you heard that before I You probably have heard it I I've heard it It's quite ridiculous but I've heard it Yeah But but then it makes you unpack it a little
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bit in your brain like "Well wait a minute How am I Strawberry Fields and he's rather be out of those?" Both
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geniuses Yeah Not bad Um Yeah I I I don't I don't I think I have a feeling our dynamic was um maybe not fraught with the friction that
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theirs was So I asked Paul McCartney about it and he said "Well the difference was you know they were doing comedy and we were do we were doing strumming and singing so it's a
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different thing The analogy doesn't quite fit." You know Larry David looks the same for the
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last 40 years was like "Oh I totally agree." Paul were you on CBS Radford a lot Yeah that's right I think we were
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there the same time honestly I think Just Shoot Me Will and Grace I think you guys up until um 98 What was
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the call sheet What was the order of the cast Have no idea Larry never looked at
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it Tell me You mean the Seinfeld call sheet Jerry Honest to God I never looked at it once What do you think it was Dana I assume it'd have to be Jerry And then we keep
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going I mean it's a good question I never looked at those four in a row I never looked at it
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Julie Louise Strifus number two She was probably bigger name right Um Jason was Julie wasn't in the pilot Jason was in the pilot Oh he might have inched leaned at the tape and got to
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number two Yeah I was not an early adopter I was being winded and dined by NBC to do the Letterman slot Warren Littlefield and having lunch with him been a talk show host Yeah they want You
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were going to be You were going to be a host on on television Yeah I I know It seems amazing He'd be great It wouldn't
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work at all This is my first great Well maybe maybe if you had David as the as the co-host it might have worked My Andy Richtor No but uh but basically
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they said you know we have this this new show I think only four had been made or something It's called Seinfeld We think
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it might be it's gonna be really big And they told me about it and who was in it and I just thought to myself "Oh boy
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that's not gonna happen." Bomb That doesn't sound like a winner Yeah I I I agree with that Well whatever I'm involved in I never thought
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would work So no I thought it would be gone very quickly I I had I was just doing it for the pilot I would do a pilot get paid for the pilot right And
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then that was that would be it Yeah The chance of pilots going are so slim especially And you're coming off SNL
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then Was that SNL to that So SNL was 84 85 How'd that go Oh swimmingly Well you you made up for it It just shows how you just don't know You need the right situation or whatever because
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for you not to do great on that show and then you go off and do Well some people do that They have trouble there and they go off and do great Um I didn't really
00:28:35
it didn't really bother me that much I got one sketch on for the season For the season Yeah I got one sketch on It's like and it reminded me a bit of a
00:28:49
standup in a way when I would I'd be waiting to go on and then I don't know somebody famous would come in and yeah I'd get bumped and bumped again and and
00:29:00
I was actually glad I got bumped because I didn't want to go on anyway I was happy I was happy not to go on And
00:29:09
so I don't know Writers made such a big deal about if their sketch was going to be on
00:29:14
I I didn't really care that much Yeah it it didn't it didn't really bother me Well when I was at writing all I cared about was getting picked up again for the next year cuz just no money So I just don't want to look like an [ __ ]
00:29:26
And they'd call Gervitz and Brad Gray and go Lauren would go "I don't know We may bring them back." So I'd have to get
00:29:32
rid of my apartment And every every year I did that And then I dra There wasn't Door Dash ladies It was drag your
00:29:39
apartment you know your mattress down the stairs and then you got to reput your part My apartment was literally a bed a desk anything I could just literally carry And then two months
00:29:50
later we'll bring them back And then I'm like so I got to go move back find an apartment It's so dumb But they like to
00:29:56
keep you on the edge of your seat there So you didn't have Lauren Lauren was not Oh you didn't have Lauren No I didn't have Lauren Oh I was just doing a
00:30:02
impression It was a 10 out of 10 Unfortunately you didn't know No he's hosted twice I knew you were doing
00:30:08
Lauren Yeah Yeah It was a very subtle you know No Dick Dick Everol It's kind of a sporting event
00:30:14
someone said about SNL It's rock and roll It's loud I mean there are there are subtle Jack Handy used to do his
00:30:20
deep thoughts and there are subtle sketches It's funny but I think I heard that you and Jerry just said for sure at
00:30:27
this point we're just going to do the show for ourselves We're not going to try to project what the network or even the audience will like That's what I
00:30:34
felt that Seinfeld you know Yeah Yeah that's that's what we did Yeah So yeah but you were just I remember we went out to dinner very early on
00:30:45
and I and I I said I I can't let How are they letting us do this I was shocked Were the audiences biting on it though It was in front of an audience right Yeah they were biting So you thought
00:30:59
well something's working here seemed like it because when we were doing ours I like to keep comparing like
00:31:05
they're the exact same When we were doing uh ours or any any sitcom they would do it and then it would get a
00:31:11
medium laugh and then we liked it all week The people that we thought was funny to each other and then they go
00:31:17
"Listen the um you know the youth prisoners that they bust in for the show uh aren't biting on this one so let's
00:31:24
dumb it down a little bit." And then I go "Well let's not wind up with the one that these guys like because we believed
00:31:30
in these jokes." and then they're scrambling and trying stuff I'm like then I don't even know what winds up on the show but you go you can't do that
00:31:36
Like it's better to have something where you just pick it and say this is our style This is our vibe Like it Well it
00:31:42
was it was new and we've gone through Cheers Mary Tyler Moore MASH all these brilliant sitcoms halfhour shows and all
00:31:48
of a sudden there's a show with a puffy jacket or a soup Nazi It just was instantly a different sensibility when I
00:31:55
saw it And uh I saw at least 13 of them I don't know how many I've seen but um we we didn't even we didn't even know
00:32:05
how to write a a sitcom We we'd never done it before Mhm You didn't have that good You didn't know how to do a bad one And there was no um there was no writer's room Mhm
00:32:19
Oh really Yeah We didn't have a writer's room who wrote well we knew some SNL people that wrote on there but was it I
00:32:25
heard the idea was people would walk into a cold like freezer room and then it was you sitting there in a chair in the dark and they would pitch
00:32:36
and then I was always very nice if you didn't like it you would hear shame and they'd walk out but they said it was they make it more than it is they probably because they go we'd have to
00:32:47
wait and then we go in and pitch and then Larry would just shake us and they You're you have a big laugh and so they
00:32:53
loved it if they could make if they could make Larry laugh in the pitch I I I was always very nice to everyone who
00:33:00
came in I could imagine you're a good crowd right now You're just you're very uh open When I see you out in the world I don't see that much but you always
00:33:07
seem very loose and friendly and there's no people I think people think of this kromagin thing that's like a little cuz
00:33:13
it's the show character That's No that's me This is this is the act Yeah Do more people talk to you What do they talk to you about in order They know you Is it Seinfeld or is it curb or is it
00:33:28
something else now Yeah Well now it's curb It's just curb all the time Curb Curb Curb Seinfeld Curb Curb Seinfeld [Music]
00:33:40
Was Jerry ever like Jerry was being sort of a stoic you know He doesn't like people being neurotic and creating
00:33:46
problems because I've gotten to know him a little I did comedians and cars and stuff and so then I realized when he is
00:33:52
abrupt about that he's really slightly annoyed that someone would create a problem you know out of nothing So he
00:33:58
would just I'd say I don't know about my act I don't how do you write new jokes Just write them you know he was
00:34:05
like you know and at first I was like is this guy aggressive No just he doesn't like neurotic comedians going I don't want to play
00:34:17
that club Don't play it I mean is he like that with you I mean once I understood where he was coming from we had him in here and it was I totally got it He does not like
00:34:30
problems that don't need to exist And he just No Yeah I like I like his stance when I
00:34:36
said it He doesn't do that many specials And I said "All the comics now they do a special for an hour and then they have
00:34:43
to throw away the material." And he goes "Why do they have to throw it away?" I go I don't want to throw it I go I have
00:34:48
stuff it takes so long to sharpen it and get it to [ __ ] work And when I go on the road they want to see a show that
00:34:53
works I don't want to start from scratch And he goes listen he talks to me like I'm a child He goes "Listen don't throw it away." He goes "Do the jokes at work." He goes "People think they have
00:35:04
too many jokes that work." He said "When you boil it down every great comic probably has an hour 15 in their whole
00:35:10
career that's just killers." And I think Leno's like that too They just boil down to like get what works and do it And if
00:35:18
some of them are great jokes it's like songs I like that I like when someone does something I like Especially comic I
00:35:24
go "This is my favorite one I'm glad they're doing it." I don't want to see cuz specials get watered down over time
00:35:29
and I'm like "Ah another one What the [ __ ] What do you got left in the There's two jokes of Jerry that's still stick
00:35:34
with me that are one was the moose gets lifted out of Alaska and it's up in the sky and it wakes up and what what does the moose think?" I guess I can fly now
00:35:45
I just thought that was a great one And then the eulogy one You know the eulogy one What's that one The number one fear
00:35:51
of all human beings are is public speaking So at any funeral the person giving the eulogy would rather be in the
00:35:58
casket It's a great joke That's good Yeah So you had a great partner and he had a great partner Yeah we had we had a
00:36:04
great time Yeah But you'll be remembered for Curb My point is this No I don't Curb Do an
00:36:11
impression do an impression Um you did Bernie Sanders Yeah Okay What's your memory of that I just did Biden I was like I don't know So the there was a debate in uh
00:36:25
200 the election was 2016 Um and Bernie was running Hillary was running Yeah So there was a debate Mhm And then I think it was
00:36:39
probably I think the debate was 2015 Yeah And I had never and so I'm li When Bernie Sanders started to talk Mhm
00:36:51
everything he was saying I would repeat I don't know if you ever do that sometimes All of a sudden be because he
00:36:57
sounded so familiar to me because we're both from Brooklyn right that I was able in a way to just tap into you know the
00:37:05
way he talked Yeah And and he would say something and I would repeat it And then my then my my agent Mhm called me when the debate was over just to talk
00:37:17
about it Ari Emanuel he said "Did you see that?" I said and I said "Of course I saw it What do you What do you think?"
00:37:24
And he goes "Okay I'm calling Lor Michaels." Perfect Oh yeah Five minutes later Lauren is on the phone with Ari and
00:37:36
uh that was on a Tuesday and on Saturday I'm doing the show Oh fun So you have the 84 experience Then all of a sudden
00:37:43
2015 you come on you do Bernie and it is a smash I mean it's like oh my god of course Larry David and you killed Must have been fun It was fun Yeah cuz everything you said you got a laugh Yeah
00:37:54
it was fun Yeah Did you go to the 50th You went to the 40th You did a lot in the 40th I thought I was I did Yeah I
00:38:00
was in the I went to the 40th and I was in the audience and I did some bit in the audience Yeah Yeah And the 50th I
00:38:08
went but I didn't do anything Yeah But I got sick at both of them Okay Good The 40th given the co in 2015
00:38:16
What would you 2015 I got sick at the 40th Yeah And I was doing a play at the time And um I was I had to do the play with like 102 102 temperature you know Um cuz you
00:38:31
got to go on It's so gross to be like I got to go on Yeah And then and then I got sick again at the at the 50th Got the flu I think you know something must be there When I hosted last time I got
00:38:42
sick during dress the worst [ __ ] anxiety riddle time In the middle of a sketch they go "Come on come on." And I
00:38:49
stood up I was in like a UPS outfit and I go and then I sat back down on the set and they go "Come on." The band's like
00:38:56
"You got 90 seconds." And I go "I don't feel good." And I laid down on the floor
00:39:02
and everyone's like "What the [ __ ] is going on?" So they walk me to the dressing room put me in the bathroom I lay on the floor and the audience is
00:39:10
still there Wow So they it was the last sketch they just wrapped and they let him out and then they're pounding on the
00:39:16
door going and I hear him going "If he doesn't come out we have we're going to have to put a rerun on We got to tell NBC." And I'm laying on the floor
00:39:22
sweating I got I don't know if I was food poisoning Then I started barfing And then I just sat there in my little
00:39:27
UPS uniform going "There couldn't be more stress already You're sick." And everyone including Lauren is behind the
00:39:33
door going "Are we doing this It's fine if we're not We just have to." And so I finally get the door and I go I mean I can try And then they go uh all right let's pull the rerun Let's just try it
00:39:45
And uh wow I started to feel a little better and I got some food in me And I was like I don't know what happened I
00:39:51
got the whammy And then I did a good solid 70% I gave And uh the guy in the UPS sketch the writer I could see him in the back going "Yeah you're real [ __ ] hero." Because obviously that sketch got
00:40:02
cut because I don't think I even finished it You know what I The thing about it when I was doing it and and I
00:40:08
was sick Mhm And and I remember thinking during the middle of it I I don't feel sick I I don't some something Yeah Your adrenaline maybe or something That's remarkable I I felt like Fraser in the
00:40:21
15th round last time I hosted like really now can I do this And then the same thing just pass the applause the laughs I mean we were hosting was good experiences or was it not really Yeah it
00:40:34
was okay It was okay What did Did Lauren give you a thumbs up or what did Lauren say to you Well they they invited me to
00:40:41
to do it again So I I guess I it wasn't a total bomb but I had you know the the hardest part was having to prepare a monologue Yeah Yeah Cuz I hadn't been on
00:40:53
in in a long time Expect the world from you So I had I had to write a monologue and then do it in different clubs Oh you
00:41:02
had to go out Yeah Oh yeah That was that's a lot of just do Q&A with the with the with the cast you know Yeah
00:41:09
that's the fake trick You singing would have been funny Yeah In a club they go "We have a guest here
00:41:16
Larry Dave." You walk up "So dogs are funny." And everyone's like "What's he doing?" And and then a half hour before
00:41:21
the show at 11:00 I was called up to Lauren's office and the sensor was there Oh And the sensor
00:41:29
said uh that I couldn't do this I couldn't do this bit Oh at 11 Yeah at 11:00 [ __ ] off And there two bits they they didn't want me to do A Come on Oh
00:41:42
please And then I went on Well the other one whatever You know I'm not going to I'm
00:41:48
not going to I got I'm going to do it You're not going to do it Well you've said you're going to you're So I said "No I'm going to Oh you said you're
00:41:54
going to do it." I said "Yeah I can't." I said "I can't I I have to do it." Well you have nothing And I go "Yeah." I go "Why Why is it offensive I don't get it
00:42:01
Who's going to be offended by this Lauren Lauren after five minutes of this said "I I I can't I can't do him." But he said
00:42:13
like he said to the sensor "I don't think you're going to win this one." Yeah Oh he said to the sensor He said
00:42:19
that to the sensor Yeah Um I don't think you're going to win this one Yeah that's
00:42:24
exactly it Let's get Larry to make it like you know um you can only take so much from a Larry David We've wasted Larry's time enough Let him go down Check his celebrity net worth and you'll
00:42:37
see that he truly is You know when I when I hosted a great story about me We can cut this out Oh we already did Um no I when I hosted I had it was Sandler was
00:42:49
in my trick monologue I'm only telling this because it's kind of similar where uh he's the audience member but he's
00:42:56
playing a goofy guy that he used to do So he was there that weekend He goes "I'll come and we'll do that That'll be your monologue so I can worry about the
00:43:03
13 sketches that are about to bomb." And so that morning Saturday they say Adam goes "I got a Water Boy open that weekend big." And he had to fly back to LA He goes "I can't do it pal." I was
00:43:14
like "Oh shit." So I couldn't cover it because it was his character And I'm like "What's my monologue?" And then
00:43:19
we're like "Okay rehearsal." And I'm like in going guys I got to get a monologue at one of the breaks and they
00:43:25
go and everyone does just do standup but I hadn't done it for a while and I had definitely hadn't done a club or
00:43:30
anything so there's no practice which you need a little even when we were at the 50th I just did a set with Chris
00:43:37
Rock and Nate Batsi just for fun because we were out having dinner and they go oh Melanie and Steve Martin and Martin Short were just here doing standup They
00:43:43
all came in everyone did a set just like everyone bumped Super fun night But I don't get to do that So I just go "Oh I
00:43:50
have this one in my act about a polar bear and about this other one." And then they go "Just do that." So the only time I rehearsed it was at dress or right
00:43:57
before dress you know to try it But I couldn't really remember it all And then I had to sit my dressing go how does
00:44:02
that one go So scary It went all right But I know the monologue It's It's all How come you didn't get them on cards I
00:44:09
got it Oh because I had to tell cards what to put and I just said just forget it Just put monkey joke polar bear Oh
00:44:16
okay And and go to a commercial when I start [ __ ] crying I don't like standup either I mean honestly if
00:44:22
anytime a show was canceled I was happy You're happy right But if I go up and I'm killing I go "Well this is kind of
00:44:27
fun." But I never want to go And I don't like I'm exactly the same way I never want to be in a de facto comedy
00:44:33
competition Go to the comedy store there's 10 comics I'm gonna try new stuff They're doing their a stuff Lean
00:44:38
into it Ah you know and I just don't like the people You You were one of the best tonight I mean what do I need that
00:44:44
for I mean just like you Do you do corporates Do they they call you to come in Uhuh Oh they're fun Somebody's got
00:44:51
enough money No I I I don't get asked Oh yeah I would It would be fun Really I'm
00:44:57
going to talk to my people Have you ever been in in a headlock by another adult male as as an adult Cuz I a the CEO was
00:45:05
drunk and had me at a corporate event He knew the church guy It's funny you should ask me that because at the um at
00:45:12
the 50th I I was introduced to Paul McCartney and and I said to him "Has anyone ever I said to him "Has anyone ever punched you
00:45:24
in the mouth?" Instead of "Hello we love all your albums." Let me ask you a question Have
00:45:30
you ever been hit in the face with a with a fist Has anybody ever punched you That's [ __ ] great He must have loved
00:45:36
it Oh wait We were at dinner What did he say Yeah the dinner Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah You were sitting right next to Paul Yeah
00:45:42
You were hilarious He was a good laugher too Yeah He was into it I think he likes having He's a charmer But what did he
00:45:48
say after you said he just started laughing No he There was an incident There was an incident There was an incident in his youth when he was like
00:45:55
13 or 14 and somebody headbutted him He told me he's he's so charming There's something on YouTube You can look it up But McCartney's going into a nightclub with people This is like in with five
00:46:06
years in LA The the dormman doesn't recognize him and they no you can't go And then you hear Paul say we've got to
00:46:13
write more songs We got we better go back to drawing We're not big enough So anyway that was a night I'm going to ask him I was sitting next to Chris Rock and I came late and I felt embarrassed but
00:46:24
uh I was 100% not invited I was Chris I was meeting for dinner and he goes just come here and then I realized I was
00:46:30
crashing at dinner he was invited to or something whatever So anyway I went in and Paul was very nice whoever threw
00:46:36
that thing just like 10 people But the funny part was I was sitting just where I could see kind of between you guys are
00:46:42
on the same side as me So I'm trying to crank my head between Chris and you and see Paul Here he goes and Larry's
00:46:48
killing And then every time Paul gets to a story where he says something like I told you where he's like you know
00:46:53
yesterday the way I came up with it was one night when I was dreaming the guy who had potato skins Then he leaves and
00:46:59
I go and then he's putting this [ __ ] down He goes "Top off your water Top off." And I'm like I'm trying to And
00:47:04
then he goes I go it's a quarter inch We're topped off And he's like I get a little more in there Then he comes out and I go and he goes and that's how I
00:47:09
came with yesterday I go uhuh Then he goes the last thing John ever said to me hey coconut shrimp hot plate hot plate
00:47:15
And I'm like god damn dude I'm missing every this thing I couldn't pay enough to hear Paul McCartney The dichotomy
00:47:21
between how humble and liver puddle is and the genius of the music We sat down you know for a plunk you know John and I like looking in the mirror and that's how we came up with Abby Road you know
00:47:33
We just plunked you know it's like what the [ __ ] What about What about Lennon What would he say What would he say Well
00:47:41
I see John Lennon Yeah Uh John would be more nasal you know Co was always one of
00:47:47
those Ringo is more like peace and love They were me brothers They're me brothers Me brothers They me brothers
00:47:53
Peace and love Can you say anything else No for me brothers made it love and polls like this and George was sort of
00:47:59
langarious sort of laidback you know they were the primary song writers for me they were my brothers you know so anyway I'm obsessed with too
00:48:11
much I'm just trying to make you laugh because you you came you drove 300 miles this year that was easy [Music]
00:48:23
that Kim Kardashian What is that one Kim Kardashian one Oh that's Well I do John Lennon talking to Paul John from heaven
00:48:29
because I want to hear them talk you know And uh you know what happened to the big orange man You know well he's
00:48:35
president again but he was beat by another man you know named Joe Biden you know And he goes wasn't he what about
00:48:42
didn't Kanye West what happened to him He went flew away We don't know what happened to him you know Wasn't he with
00:48:48
a woman named Kim Kardashian What how's she doing I'm doing the short version John knows a couple little things He's
00:48:55
been Well they talk regularly Couple pop references Well you know she's a nice girl you know Well how does she make a
00:49:00
living Well she takes pictures of her bottom What's so special about her bottom It's not a normal
00:49:08
bottom It's a bottom 2.0 It's like God made a fanny and attached a person as an afterthought The whole family has big bottoms All of them are doing it And if they fall on their backs they're sort of
00:49:20
like turtles They can't get up again They have to have turtle wranglers lift them up You know the whole family's
00:49:27
doing it One gentleman got so frustrated he became a woman So that's that's a truncated version of it You have a great sense of humor Can you come back tomorrow
00:49:38
Well I love impressions Me too If I see someone Yeah Bill was on my show and he was Oh he's so Oh my gosh Just Yeah Did he do one of my bits I
00:49:51
think Burton Kirk or or Jimmy Stewart No he gave you credit He did Burton Kirk Yeah he g he gave you full credit I know I know It was flattering how much he loves it cuz I think he's absolutely
00:50:02
brilliant you know But yeah he loves that Burton Kirk thing too Uh-huh I want you I want you
00:50:12
No Now take it easy son We're just two men having fun Don't keep bucking around like that I'd only got so much play down there You keep [ __ ] around like that So
00:50:26
great I want you Now what are you going to do cowboy Come on I take you I do this for
00:50:33
20 minutes I once had John Loveitz throw up in a parking garage cuz I'll do it for 20 minutes But cuz he was laughing
00:50:39
so hard because it goes on and on and on and on you know [ __ ] Should I keep doing [ __ ] No we're doing good I think maybe
00:50:45
we wasted enough of his time I mean this is my current favorite Do you want me to do it Why Yeah do one more It's not This
00:50:52
is Jimmy Stewart which I think Conan but trying to come up with a new Jimmy Stewart thing is that someone's going to
00:50:58
perform oral sex on him and he does it as Jimmy Stewart case It's not X-rated Okay I I I know this one too Yeah All
00:51:06
right No no no You don't don't touch it I What No Just Just slow down Now I want
00:51:13
you to to slowly turn your head and look away Yeah Yeah that's it Just look away
00:51:19
Now I want you to forget about it Pretend you never saw it Now slowly but ever slowly turn your head back around and discover it again That's it That's
00:51:32
the look I want Just discover it You're discover you know So that's that's my latest one That's just hilarious I've never done this many bits on That's so funny Discover it and consider it Well I
00:51:46
have one where he leaves the house Now I'm going to go around the corner and get a soda pop And I want you to forget all about it You never saw it And I'm
00:51:54
going to come back and I want you to slowly turn and discover it again like it's
00:52:01
brand new Yeah Yeah No no don't don't don't touch it Just just think about it Now
00:52:08
back the head up again I know I'm I'm going to back up and go out in the hallway
00:52:14
So I see I'll just go for 20 minutes but you're the greatest audience with me Well I love embra It should be your closure That's a [ __ ] great one I'm going to I'm going
00:52:25
to edit these things together and release it as a special So funny Holy cow Anything you need from us Larry You
00:52:32
all right Oh no I'm good Thank you very much uh for coming here You're I You're just an amazing um guest and I don't
00:52:40
know what to say other than um I did the best I could You did great Um we all didn't want to do this and we all did it and I think I'm proud of us all Did you want to go Yes
00:52:53
That's all I do with Jerry How many How many podcasts are there Over three million Over three million now No
00:53:01
honestly No No I think there's three million Does that seem too low Sounds like a joke There's 3 million podcasts
00:53:08
in North America I don't know how how does everyone do it I mean we Googled it and that was over 3 million That was
00:53:13
about a year ago So it's most don't get past 30 episodes So they come in and out
00:53:19
you know but I don't know how Greg here's our producer How do they It seems easy It's kind of hard to do Digital
00:53:25
space is unlimited that we can all just you know it feels like the easiest thing in the world So if you're an actor or if
00:53:32
you're doing anything in showbiz and things are slow you feel like you want to do something you know like well right
00:53:38
And then it's like when people used to watch the Kardashians they wanted a reality show They go hey I argue I hate
00:53:43
my family too I yell at them in the kitchen I could do this show So that's what they think And then they go to podcast and it's a little trickier and
00:53:50
tougher and a lot fizzle but uh some stick around It's it's it's a little bit to it It's a new tech So it's sort of like you know you do the talk show and you do the pre-in minutes and they're cutting and
00:54:03
so this is just like us hanging out So it's this new art form of like shooting the rehearsal doing halfbaked stuff We don't have a script I had a few questions right It's good to have a day
00:54:13
So it is fun Um it can be fun you know just because of the freedom of it Yeah And it's great that you're doing it
00:54:19
together Yeah I think Yeah we we get along really well Yeah It's easier And then if someone else whoever we got here
00:54:26
one of us knows something about something and but we let them talk sometimes We let you talk a little bit
00:54:32
Yeah I said I said a couple of things Feel free to cut me out of the whole thing We don't need too much me Well I'd
00:54:37
say I watched you on Conan and I noticed this morning just and I said "Oh god Larry loves to laugh." You know you know
00:54:44
like you you're like maybe the funniest guy whatever Let's just say he's arguably the funniest person to last
00:54:51
this generation arguably last 300 You're in the conversation I was the funniest person So to make that guy laugh is just
00:54:57
a pleasure Well you heard the the Conan what podcast Yeah Yeah Yeah And you guys are
00:55:03
having such a good time and I noticed cuz I haven't hung out with you a lot I just Larry loves to laugh Yeah You know
00:55:09
and so that's why I just thought I'd do a few things Um you know All right By the way when he did when I did curb and this is the last thing I'll say you had to cut some stuff out and you called me
00:55:21
cuz very it's very tough to call someone tell him you had to cut something So he told me and the the funniest part was I
00:55:27
said okay well I had a great time and thanks for putting me on there and it was and then you felt guilty and you go now I feel bad and I go well well I I
00:55:35
understand it and they go are you being sarcastic I go "No I I I know that these shows go long and we ad live forever and
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if you got to take some stuff out and you go all right I'll try to put it back in." And I go "No it's fine." And it
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turned into another episode cuz it was just funny to hear you feel bad that you had to call me But it's hard to tell
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someone that And a lot of people say they never even told me I'm like "It's hard to tell people." Just it is what it
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is If it gets cut it gets cut But that was nice The people who would design Seinfeld and Curb would have all that
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kind of emotions cuz it's coming from all this human you're on both sides of that makes sense that you would suddenly
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feel bad because if you're a sensitive instrument on Seinfeld I this guy I knew paid a lot of money to be an extra um
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for charity Mhm And I inadvertently cut him out of the show and he had a party He was going to have people over people over his house Yeah
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Yeah So Brad [ __ ] him All right Okay Thanks Thanks bud This has been a presentation of Odyssey
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