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my kids loved the jackass movies they love them so much they were obsessed by them and then they tried to do some of the physical stunts
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let's just say I'm very well versed in ER language my kids had 28 concussions yeah you know Knoxville that that coming
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out he got offered SNL uh we're gonna talk about that but the uh that coming out was so breakthrough it was so crazy um what he was doing and I loved it so
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much I was like so jealous you know to see how cool it was well the other thing he did great and I can't remember which
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movie it was but he they put him in prosthetic makeup as this girl bad grandpa or something yeah and he was
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really skilled at that and I I assume a lot of it was improvised but it was it that made me envious I would love to be in prosthetic makeup out on the street kind of annoying people yeah and letting
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them step on your nuts like he had his nuts hanging out all the time from his shorts and then he had a permanent vice
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grip installed it was it was called a Hooter clamp and so he had definitive consistent pain on his testicles all the time so that when he would get on the set to do jackass he wouldn't feel like
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it was scared at all so he also had an electoral shock therapy apparatus Jesus called a Zone vest and that would give him just small little kind of pin I'm
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making it I was like God damn I love this element of I I'm so glad I was around for this part of Show Business shoot the rehearsal look at our hair be authentic it'd be like Frank
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Sinatra coming out takes off his toupee Dean Martin comes out you know they do a
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you know a breathalyzer test on him yeah you know you want to see I wish behind the curtain behind the curtain that was
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the name I wanted for the thing but you went with the bug why an insect why I know you hated the
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part about the fly animal because it's the word fly kind of grosses you out right well I I haven't met a person who's like
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you know what I really like I like puppies kittens and flies you know what it was really an underrated animal the
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fly like what is it in an insect no dude look at a clip from planet Earth where they say no it's a filthy [ __ ] bug that hangs out on turds right and not necessarily walls
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right so but we you know so we made that up and well we had a lot remember Razzmatazz is gonna be one oh I like that one yeah because it's sort of vague and nothing and that's Showbiz oh
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yeah that's Showbiz I thought that was great you like that too didn't you well how did this piece of [ __ ] squeak
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through pieces hitch yeah you could do that if you spelled [ __ ] differently so it's like hey piece of everything for a
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while there was like that could be a title it's like I remember when I thought it was so [ __ ] stupid I can't
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remember but well that's like working on your eight by ten when I came into Hollywood in the 80s as you meet people
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like yeah I've been working on my eight by ten for about eight months no I've been working on that eight by
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ten so like just sitting around for days trying to think of a pithy name oh yeah it's kind of like you know I did did a
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corporate date once for a car company and they drove me out in a go-kart or I drove a go-kart on stage and stuff or
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you come in in a gurney and I go guys I got to do an hour stand up that buys me like six seconds of Goodwill that I came
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in at a harness ladies and gentlemen and then it's like 10 minutes later it's like yeah you're right yeah believe me I
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have a special coming out I'm looking at it and watching the editing going God damn anyway we should get back to Johnny Knoxville what is the team uh sorry
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let's finish the thought I just woke up what's the name of the special what's the name of the special fly on the stage
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I know it's such a it's such a good time that's the funniest thing I've heard this morning fly on the stage
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[Music] foreign [Music] I was just telling Dana that's Dana and I'm good David um that uh Johnny welcome to the most
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casual podcast you'll ever be on oh this time I've been excited about this thanks for having me Johnny this is called
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every question you've ever been asked and you're gonna get asked again not literally not intentionally studied
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Howard Stern all the other shows and we want to ask identical things and I'm going to comment as Howard throughout
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the interview because you don't have to think this you could just check out for the next hour you guys were great on
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starting the other day oh did you see yeah yeah I I listened to it Stern constantly and uh I but I I heard your guy showing you guys were great did you
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like that I kept trying to leave I kept going all right Dana Howard thanks for coming by and he's like what
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are you doing I go well it's an hour 48 what are we doing I need I need some mystery David's production company is
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called one foot out the door that means anything but he's always kind of wanting
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to leave he's a little fresh out David no I look good you do look good anyway um yeah you did Howard Stern did you get in there at 5 30 in the morning kind of
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thing too yeah yeah I got up at 5 30 was there by six I know I'm so spoiled I don't I never have an alarm at this point in my life so it freaked me out I was up at 3 45 every second I checked
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the clock whoa yeah yeah when you know you have to wake up it it gets in your head yeah he would text me uh Stern
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would text me and go I wouldn't sleep if I were you better be [ __ ] funny in the morning I go God damn what is it no
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pressure upstairs I don't remember what Johnny Johnny Knoxville is that your real name
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uh Philip John is my real name hello mine's [ __ ] Gary gonorrhea wow mine's Dan Dana garno and I switched it to Dana Carvey Dana Garner was my stage name oh
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and I hated that early days of stand up please welcome Dana garno no that's just everyone said it wrong right
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oh God yes that's a tough one but class that sucks Johnny Knoxville is uh that's
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a cool name that goes off the tongue nicely Johnny Knoxville it's very nice I was going to be Scotty Scottsdale I'm from Arizona
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and then everyone said nothing will make you cooler and I said uh all right I give up his other his uh website is
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called perennial senior I don't know what that means but me you you're always the kid I don't care how old
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but you'll always be the kid you'll be boys you're like Johnny Carson Johnny's so excited he's like I hope they just
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never ask me one thing this is going long enough and I don't want to answer it I can listen to you guys all day you're so funny I I have some sort of
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like before we get to SNL a couple questions yeah yeah so like jackass huge in our family love it kids two boys
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um had a few injuries not blaming you but it was it was Baymax skateboarding but they love jackass so much and uh I just wondered if for you Danny he thinks
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he they he met them did he meet them I think I met them with you one time Dana you met Dex yes you remember it was you
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me and Patton Oswald yeah at the 50th anniversary of Paramount and we took a big photo yeah yeah where were you standing like everyone in Show Business was in these bleachers oh I was in one
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of those and they bumped me for the next one I I don't know who I was standing next to uh Montel Williams yeah
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I I got up in the stands and it's you know it's Meryl Streep George Clooney it's everybody and then I'm next to Billy Bob Thornton and he Billy's so eccentric he goes he goes you're the one
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I really wanted to meet I'm so glad you're next to me I go really not Jerry Lewis right he's the he's the coolest
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um yeah that was a real thing Kirk Douglas was there um the attack of the Super Chicken this
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was there and he was he was wow funny and just talking so much [ __ ] uh very rebellious and funny
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uh but it was like we were in Boss because when I would look at old photos black and white photos of movie TV stars
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from the 1940s and 50s I knew they were all dead there's a certain Darkness to it so I said that to Billy Bob Thornton
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we're just going to be down in a hallway and we'll be long gone he goes yeah yeah I know we were really into the darkness
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of that photo right right hey I have a peppier story Johnny I did this I did this same [ __ ] picture I think and it was for paramounts like 90th right so I
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think they do them every 10 years so I squeaked in on one and uh it had it had scaffolding so it was like on the Paramount lot and they met you in a holding area and I didn't believe that
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everyone in the picture was it was 90 Stars right it's kind of what you guys did yeah so everyone's a big [ __ ]
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monster star I couldn't believe it and they were all there so I go in the holding tank and we go to get a drink
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and they go oh we can't serve drinks because most of everyone's old and we have scaffolding and I'm like [ __ ] what
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a buzz kill so luckily spadoodle Doo has two Jack Daniels airplane bottles in his
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sock for emergencies right so this was an emergency so I get up there and I'm getting on the scaffolding it's Jim
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Carrey Sharon Stone Michael Doug you know everyone the same thing as you guys I think Mickey Rooney Dana's buddy was
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there so uh anyway I get up there and Harrison Ford is some for some reason down the scaffolding from me but while they're like loading Liz Taylor on a crane or whatever they're doing I'm
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sitting there and then I have my diet coke so I'm gonna get my little Jacques Daniels out and have a little nippy nip
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so I go like this you know I snap the top out of my sock I go and Harrison Ford's ears go up like a labrador goes like a doberman you know and then I go uh oh and he looks over and he walks
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over and he goes you got any more of that and I go up um hey this is gonna Trend this is great so I go [ __ ] first of all Harrison Ford is the coolest dude in the world so I I
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immediately am excited to talk to him he's just like nervous too he's like time to kill he goes you got any more of
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those and that's when my star [ __ ] collided with my alcoholism and I go no it was it wasn't even a contest no me
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and solo went home empty how can you believe it he had a Solo Cup Billy Bob Thornton got me a beer same thing oh he did but we got a little cocktail afterward thing afterwards then I was so
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Starstruck by Jane Fonda she was leaving and I tried to get a selfie with her and her hope being collapsed so if she's
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listening I'm really sorry about that Billy Bob Thornton said you like another beer and I'm like okay and then I go
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Jane Fonda and my wife's such a fan of hers and so anyway right well join us let's focus on Johnny Johnny not Johnny
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yet I I just I Dre yeah Johnny we're gonna have too much of Johnny in a second so I go here's my little drink and I go glug glug and then I look down the scaffolding when I slowly felt the
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second one and I think I see him lift his Fedora up and he looks at me and he's like shaking his head like you
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[ __ ] because I had another one and then I go oh okay I didn't know that was another end of that okay I know it just kept going but anyway uh so then uh I think we worked
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it out later but anyway back to Johnny Johnny my question for this as a father with kids like I was terrible at
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watching my kids go down on a skateboard down a giant Hill my wife could look I couldn't look right one of my kids we
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named him the heart attack kid because he was you they there were 23 ER visits they both had five to six concussions multiple fractures they're fine now they
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stopped and I just wondered are you when your kids running down a hill or looks like they're gonna fall are you just like a normal parent or are you so acclimated to stunts you're like oh I've
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seen someone fall downstairs Stevo did that that's no big deal or how does that so that's my question yeah I'm oddly
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enough a real helicopter parent when it comes to safety like me too uh you know however my sense of humor is and how I deal with them is one thing
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but if they're on a swing when they're little or climbing on the monkey bars I was right under them and I know I just that's just how I am and uh I I guess I
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know how the last thing I want for them is to get hurt right because you've been hurt and you know so like any apparent
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but I was a little more cautious with them right I didn't want to be captain no all
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the time you know so you're sort of like it's okay that we're okay they're in a homemade tree fort above a street
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climbing around so I try not to control them too much and I I I I had a sense humor about they bought me they bought
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me a book when they were like 10 with with Mom and it was called worst case scenario like how to survive a bumblebee
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attack in an airplane stuff like that so it became kind of a runner that I my imagination gets away from me and I was
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very protective in that way but not to prevent 23 ER visits anyway David yeah uh yes Johnny you gave the right answer I've got a question and answer thing
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right here and that was the right one you passed the first question uh second of all when you do this first of all I
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love jackass growing up and I wanted to hit you up you know I see you out and about sometimes you're always very cool
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and um I wanted to hit you up in the early days because it jackass look so fun I wanted to go there and then I
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realized I'm such a colossal [ __ ] there was really nothing I could do I can skateboard a little bit but I thought
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there's no stone I couldn't do the full circle skateboarding you know uh David there was really to be good at
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anything that's the whole idea you know we're not gonna have you if you're good at something you are not doing that stun
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oh I like the thinking okay good I'm like I can skateboard good we'll put bees on your dick well that's it you could do all that kind of stuff what's that you can do all that kind of stuff
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requires no skill to have bees on your dick no no no no no all you gotta do is a lot of my Stones all I have to do is
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stand in one spot or hold on to something I've really narrowed it down to those two things I do good
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um but like people that we bring in like most of the time like uh celebrity guests they don't they they could just be peanut gallery they can just be funny yeah we don't we won't go yeah some
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people we make a decision not to go after we'll have that discussion before it's like okay we're not going to go
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after but like in this case with Eric Andre and Tyler the Creator and Machine Gun Kelly Jeff knew them and I was like
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Jeff do they get the full treatment and he's like kill him I'm like okay yeah I like that that you talk ahead of time because you have to because sometimes uh
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celeb types are a little more frail and fragile uh it physically and ego wise so
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they wouldn't love it uh but if you know them a little bit I don't know how to take it like I I've pranked people in my
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private life uh a friend of mine who's who was an actor I I don't want to give a name but I kind of went after him like
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I went after my guys and it hurt his he was confused by it and I was a little obsessed with it I kind of because it was making my other friend laugh and it ended up hurting his feelings and
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he was just confused I'm like okay I can never go after civilians yeah I felt like a monster so there's a very hard
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line of people I would go after and people I won't yeah cause in the movie when you it
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looks so fun and everyone laughs at the worst pain it is they just laugh so hard and they're also like used to it like I
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think in the movie that guy uh is it Aaron Aaron gets a lot of it in the movie he he always gets a lot of he's
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like The Whipping Boy he's a very important part of the show he's like the the nail with the meal the mile he's the
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mile that's what I was thinking um but he he when you uh I think Dana saw too he wears a cup and then they try to test the cup and they rack them in the nuts they have naganu UFC guy punch
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him in the nuts I I thought more that would break his whole cervix or whatever's down there I don't know hip
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bones whatever's down there whatever I don't know I'm not some doctor yeah but you're
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not standing oh and then they did uh the worst was the uh pogo stick because right it's an inexact science and I think it and then it's sort of bleeding now does he have any central
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nervous system I'm like this guy keeps I go this is the same guy from four in a row a softball pitcher right a punch and
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then the the the the the the the pogo stick was just like hey [ __ ] it he's not getting hurt enough let's just well film
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that on the same day as the softball pitcher for some reason Jeff and I would schedule these things on the same day so he was taking a lot of time and there is a cut of the pogo stick bit that seven
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or eight minutes long that is hilarious because the peanut gallery is just murdering Aaron the whole time because
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we've been filming with them all day and we love them but he he has a way of setting everyone off and the peanut
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gallery was just murdering him and it was so fun but we had to cut it down just for the film sure uh yeah Aaron
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Aaron gets gold Aaron gets gold but yeah he does he does I mean for for the purpose of your movie
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he's great and I thought you would be more like Seinfeld and just sort of be in there and let the craziness around
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you but after a little bit you got in and I said oh good he's getting in which is tough because we're all getting older
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I don't know you're 80. I have no idea how old you are but you're uh but you're uh 72 this but you must I'm fragile for
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absolutely no reason but you have to be fragile because you just got your ass kicked over and over and over for work
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and I think that you still do it is cool it's hard but I'm sure people might want
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it and you have to do it you feel like that do I have to do it no I you know God
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help me but nothing is more fun than filming jackass and uh yeah I did take some shots in this film and also I backload my biggest stunts till the
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end of the film so I had like three big stunts left to go after the bowl but after the blow just you know I broke my wrist my rib I got a concussion the brain hemorrhage I spent the week in the
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hospital took me a couple months three months to come back online really in my head so we had to cancel all the rest so
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it's like I didn't get to take as many shots as I wanted but maybe that's good it worked out for the best because I've
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taken I've had a lot of concussions and uh my neurologist is like I think I think you're done with concussions
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what I was curious about is the the David mentioned the word fun I mean I don't think I've ever seen people that joyous in the world like after the stunt in the world well that
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the loudest sustained laughter I think that's the flip side to jackasses if the guy does a massive hit and it's just massively hilarious and fun and jumping
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around and screaming so it's joyous right you know a lot of that comes from sometimes it's it's really funny and sometimes we're doing something really dangerous and a lot of nervous energy
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comes out and everyone yeah yeah but it is everyone even though we're giving each other hell and people get you know
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have PTSD and uh everyone loves it even though that they don't know what's going
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on and I'm just killing them all day long they love it oh yeah well it's like such a fun thing
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with dudes and that's why it works everyone laughing is all fun I mean even movies like grown-ups when people say if
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they like those movies it's like oh you guys are buddies and you're all goofing around and we should have had a half hour uh blooper reel at the end because
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that's that's the stuff people love you know yeah because if you're having fun the audience is going to have fun it's
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just like watching someone on a talk show if the person's on a talk show having fun then everyone watching is
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going to happen yeah that's right yeah my last question for Jackass and we'll talk about SNL was uh
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uh machine gun scarecrow um Machine Gun Kelly I thought uh you could have made him like a scarecrow and
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uh put him out because he kind of looks like he has a definite Ray Bolger Vibes yeah you put him out and have real and tie him down to a thing and make all the birds come pick at them but I guess hide
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down then it's just then we can do any number of things to him you know once he agrees to that you change it yeah yeah okay we'll we'll tell him it's about birds but as soon as he's tied down we
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can do anything we want to him but he is a tall lean man yeah he's lanky he's the
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definition of lanky he showed up and he's got a tattoo of the skull and jackass going crutches on him so it's
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like if you got that you're getting the full treatment yeah he got a good smack and I love when it's never when you
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think it is and that's the funniest part you you set him up for a different bit and then something else happens on the
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way which is great yeah I my last question before we go to SNL and I'm sure you've been asked this but like my
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son had showed me a long time ago the one about the guy gets the puts the toy car up his butt you know and that was so
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that was so huge in our house and all over the country the way it played out it was played so
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straight with that doctor and everything do you ever like did you ever get ideas for stunts and don't even and then you
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reject them out of hand even to yourself like it's like what is rejected when are you like oh we could do this to this guy
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and then electroshock came there and then tie it and hang them up do you ever kind of go no no that's too much you don't even pitch it
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by myself and pitch him to Jeff but in the room terrible things get thrown out you know how Okay a brainstorm session you know
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funny funny in the room things that you'll never repeat to anyone just like comedy writing yeah with murdering air
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in some way you know that poor guy yeah yeah so yeah a lot of [ __ ] gets thrown out it's just we know it's and we're not going to do it but
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but sometimes if it's so far over the line but it still makes us laugh we'll try to figure out how to do it and
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sometimes you can reel it in just a bit here and there and it can work you start
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by saying okay they're naked now what yeah yeah always funning her with their cocky goddamn I would never show anything yeah First We Take a sledgehammer to their balls and then
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yeah they go down the gauntlet and within the day new moms the worst one was probably for me to watch the cringiest was uh putting the queen bee
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where did you hide it on his wiener like you put it under his jacket and put it under the shaft I I placed it under the
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shaft you yeah I think where that is exactly and the queen bees like this come save for me and and then he lets all the bees out if people haven't seen
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it and all the bees come immediately in the guy's dick and I'm just like that's the one where I go I can't even and he's
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getting stung and stung and screaming it was Stevo right yeah yeah Stevo he's been doing meditation and he thought he could like overpower you know pain yeah he told me good luck or I'm like okay
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jeez oh did he get paid in teeth whitening anyway um so well they're all he's got some tooths he has a new set of teeth for every film oh he does have great teeth I
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have an entree question that's very generic for to begin our discussion about yeah you and SNL what was more terrifying being on the
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rocket going into the water whatever you're most amazing or being on the ball in the latest film or coming out as a host what what was
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your nerve Factor when you Johnny Knoxville or were you cool with it or was it usually people you don't do that
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well anyway how did you feel yeah yeah I would definitely rather ride the rocket
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or stand in front of a bull okay nerve-wracking because I I have a a fear of speaking in public
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right in yeah like the audience I was like that really freaked me out and it's SNL and it's not something that I I do a
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lot um it's hard to figure out you don't really know what you're doing probably no
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because I I didn't and um in I remember we were going over some bit and I was talking with Fred Armisen and he was really sweet and helped me a
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lot is very you know I'm like I I don't know kind of what to do here and and he goes you you don't have to do anything here it's like it's it's not about you in this one it was it was
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focused on the I was like the straight man and I wasn't realizing it right yeah just little things like that
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um but that calms you down a little bit if it's the the funnies like happening around you and it's funnier if you say stay straight yeah stay straight like
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don't uh so there was a little of that trying to get used to that and the the rehearsals helped me a ton everyone was very supportive uh I know a couple of
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bits that I did that I wasn't really doing that well in their rehearsals and you know Lauren gave me a little pep talk before about the cream
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will always rise to the top or something I don't know oh no terrifying yeah yeah
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it's like oh so I'm I'm down there's cream and then there's a piece you're going to bring it up yeah yeah I mean there's almost nothing you can say
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it's just because coming out for the monologue Dana and I are stand-ups and and when we go back and host that
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monologue even I'm sure Dana would agree you're like heart speeding like [ __ ] man this is so difficult it's so loud when
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you come out that band is so loud and everyone's going crazy and this and you see the jib camera come in and you're
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like [ __ ] this is it uh but I will say it's it's fun to bring it up because it goes back to Don Pardo but
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your opening monologue descended in the cast doing a prank and it ended up with Don Pardo kicking you in the balls right no but was that the first sketch uh Seth
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Myers was out there next to me and he was supposed to hit me in the balls at one point okay like in my monologue so when I got a certain word
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that was his that was his that was his signal to hit me in the balls but like three words before that I hit him in the balls and I absolutely smoked him and he
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didn't wasn't expecting it and he could barely perform the next scene it was just a perfect hit wait a minute
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if it's in the right spot you go on the show and because of Jackass there's gonna be a lot of people getting kicked in the balls now so zeth Myers was not ready for it or you just you did or you
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didn't he wasn't wearing anybody I was going to do it but I thought it would be funnier if if he wasn't prepared if I
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hit him holy [ __ ] and I was right so you improved I was right so not telling anyone you go out to host SNL you're not telling anyone the secret plan he's never going to kick you in the
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balls you preempt him and then he's kind of he's out of it for about the next 10 minutes or the next sketch yeah he was
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really he could barely walk through that skip oh my god I've done it you better be
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looking for your keys you go where and you tap your nut wrong and you just drop to the ground and go call work right it
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was I'm gonna wear a cup we're gonna have dinner someday but I'm gonna wear a steel cup you guys are safe we're safe
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okay but so don Pardo I re I missed I was doing a deep dive this morning he did not do a fake kick to you Don Pardo no no that was Seth Meyers getting okay
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God the web [ __ ] Webb got it wrong I think it confused dog because I thought it'd be so great oh I love Don Pardo
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Johnny Knoxville yeah yeah it would have been incredible was it a knee or was it
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just a like a hand but it was a perfect shot so do you mind is to go into more detail like
00:29:32
what you felt in the yeah that was kind of you know to the left as I struck him yeah did you
00:29:41
hurt your hand at all was he semi-erect just being excited to be out on the show or no but there was probably some
00:29:46
swelling afterwards okay that's good uh now Johnny you're a professional too because in the in the in the movie and the show sometimes you just have to get someone and so you know
00:29:58
what you're doing so yeah you had one take by the way that never happens on the show something that is really
00:30:03
unexpected like that and I'm sure it was talked about after you left yeah that was at the after party crotch it's a lot man hey really sorry
00:30:14
it was just it just got away from me I don't know why I did that no it's okay we're cool we're cool
00:30:21
did you remember anybody in that cast that that you got along with you said I think you said Fred Armisen just now
00:30:27
went that was so that was I'm trying to picture the era of because you know cast changed a lot so that was Fred you said
00:30:33
was there uh ratio Sans Horatio okay Rob wriggle um oh yeah I did a scene with Robert so that might have been around the same time oh Amy okay who's doing update do
00:30:46
you remember they were so supportive uh it was it was it was a scary experience but it ended up being like a totally positive experience in my mind and it's something about like it being live it's
00:31:07
just like getting in the bull ring it's like okay this is what we're this is what I'm doing today and you you you you
00:31:14
just the Train's going by and you jump on it yeah and then you're off that it comes by really fast that I I cognized it you know in my mind yeah and
00:31:26
when you when you host it just for our listeners flies on the wall um once the show starts and you're the
00:31:33
host they take you like they grab you like after a sketch if you have a quick change or to get ready to go they kind
00:31:39
of you know you're you're on autopilot in that sense there's nothing else you can do and how did you handle the cue
00:31:44
cards were you okay with it did you try to fake it or did you have a technique they they said read off the cue cards
00:31:50
and I totally agree you guys do this more than me so I'm gonna read off the cue cards uh once you pick an eye line and stay with it it's less disturbing than going
00:32:01
to the person to the card back to the person yeah you know especially in an over-the-shoulder shot so I I may have
00:32:09
made that mistake once or twice going off the cards and looking at the person because you kind of want to make a
00:32:15
connection with them but it honestly looks better like they tell you just read out the cards yeah Phil Hartman had
00:32:21
a great technique sorry David where because you have three sets of cards if it's two people talking so Phil would
00:32:26
kind of pretend to sort of Look Away he'd look behind himself just for a second casually to get get the line over
00:32:33
his shoulder and then come back at you with it there was a lot of technique when you're a cast member to not get caught yeah you know yeah but drink it
00:32:40
up when you're talking and then come back because they won't be on you sometimes I think the host is always in
00:32:46
black but uh you have to have different colors for the people at home so everyone knows who's talking and uh
00:32:53
sometimes right before I've seen him like Sandler are you green or blue and because I don't know which what does my
00:33:00
guy say because I'm a professional actor I think I was red all for all seven years sometimes you can request and they
00:33:06
go oh you like to be this and then yeah I already know it was John love it's his car because each letter was he only had
00:33:11
one letter on each card because Mr Magoo was doing the best he could you know you know I love it just like the Aaron McGee of SNL yeah yes yes are you up
00:33:27
jealous I'm funny because I once told John you know you're funny natural you don't have
00:33:33
to try really there's a lot of thought behind it when did you turn to May West [ __ ] I don't know are you guys gonna see me or is it acting but no he's
00:33:44
the funniest John yeah go ahead so uh yeah I was saying that Farley wears glasses just like yours Johnny and he would uh go on update and he'd squint so much we gave him so much [ __ ] that we go just wear glasses nobody gives a [ __ ]
00:33:56
and then he'd wear glasses and squint for no reason we're like are you just used to squinting do you know what squinting is
00:34:02
or what it's for uh but uh we'll get into some Basics now this just go just bear with us Johnny because I'm
00:34:15
older um you do uh is you doing the before you got offered us now you were doing some form of Jackass was was you
00:34:26
getting electrocuted in that in the nards is that what was it your first bit that's first bit I saw you're standing
00:34:31
against a wall and someone's hitting you with a stun gun or something yeah I did an article for Big Brother it started as
00:34:37
an article where I was going to test self-defense equipment on myself uh pepper spray stun gun taser gun and I
00:34:43
was gonna shoot myself in the chest with a 38 while wearing the bulletproof vest
00:34:49
and Jesus Tremaine who ended up directing jackass said well you should also film it too and we'll put it in the skateboard the smallest thing that's ever happened smartest thing yeah
00:35:00
so that was your audition tape yeah uh I guess I guess it is there were different factions that came together and it's it's a it's it's a story but it's a long process right where you do
00:35:14
that and then you do it a little more and then that it catches on so you do some more and then that ultimately gets
00:35:20
to Lauren's desk or somebody we we did a we did a couple of skateboard videos right where I was doing like it was a skateboarding magazine and I didn't really
00:35:31
I'd known Jeff wild and wonder right for the magazine but I didn't skateboard but I found my way in by doing stuff in the
00:35:38
videos and writing about yeah you know like participatory journalism type of thing and
00:35:45
then Jeff and I talked and wanted to do a show and he goes I went to school with Spike Jones let's see if he wants to be a part of it and spy came on board and
00:35:57
we had the footage from the skateboard videos right we cut a little 10 minute tape
00:36:03
and we took it out and shopped it around an MTV and Comedy Central showed a lot of interest and at that time it got to SNL got to Lauren the tape that we made
00:36:14
and I met him at the Polo Lounge Beverly Hills Hotel which was surreal right I was just waiting tables uh six months before
00:36:26
right now so you cleared a table by reflex at the point like the head of Show Business now you're right the
00:36:33
president of show business I'm sitting across from and he's offering me three to five
00:36:39
minutes each week to do what I do yeah it was surreal uh uh but we were pretty far along we were getting ready to shoot the pilot and [ __ ] do I
00:36:53
go on an established show oh by the way I'm so lucky that he offered do I go on an established show where I'm probably not going to have a lot of control over what we're doing uh or do I kind of bet
00:37:05
on my friends and me and my friends and I ultimately bet on me and my friends and it could have been a disastrous move but I felt
00:37:16
like we kind of were on to something and it's got to be hard to turn down Lauren it's
00:37:22
got to be tough because it's such a big deal it was brutal because it's so it's so
00:37:27
flattering yeah yeah it's such you feel like an [ __ ] it's probably going to fail what we're doing is probably going
00:37:34
to fail and I'm going to regret turning down Lauren Michaels but would you would you have been able to do what you do or
00:37:40
I mean there's some NBC standards but was it you and and your squad or was it you would be me and you know oh yeah
00:37:49
tough one why is it going it's not as fun me yeah so I don't have Jeff I don't have
00:37:56
Spike I don't Spike's great yeah Spike has been so he's instrumental talented right
00:38:04
just yeah off the ground in the beginning because Jeff and I are just two dogs but you get
00:38:11
Spike Jones involved and it's like oh these two dopes might know something we didn't know anything but we got respect
00:38:16
because of Spike we got agent because of Spike we got in the dirty because of Spike spike has been so uh you know
00:38:25
contributed so much to the films and TV show over the years just for sure well the the aesthetic and I don't know if you guys talked about this with Spike but you guys are out at lakes and rural
00:38:36
areas it's never shot too complicated it's very reality show Vibe wide shots and um you know it's it that added to it the authenticity Vibe of it right well
00:38:47
we were never was sleep thank you we're trying to decide in the beginning like because we're doing skateboard videos
00:38:53
which look exactly like jackass right they were shot exactly like jackass because that's all we could do that's
00:39:01
how we could shoot like this because we knew how to do that very simply like a cheap look kind of thing oh man that only knows two or three chords right this is what we do but Jeff and I were
00:39:13
talking like what do we do we have a like a a Dewey do I host from a desk and then go out to the street to do certain
00:39:20
things and and we talked to spike and he's like no he goes you're already you're already doing it it should look
00:39:28
like the Big Brother videos got another great idea yeah of course yeah because that would have ruined it if somebody
00:39:34
went in and Slicker sized it made us too many angles but we didn't know so it took Spike to go you're already doing it yeah well I checked up your celebrity
00:39:44
net worth this morning so I think you made the right choice uh I don't know how accurate is but it's very healthy
00:39:50
those things are never accurate I know I know you never know I'm just I'm taking you know but it I do think that people
00:39:58
come in and do films short films I don't know it's a little bit awkward you're outside the cast and you bring your
00:40:04
thing in I I don't know I think that's kind of a tough position so I think it made the right decision but I tough to
00:40:10
turn down the smart to bring you in um of course and get him to try to get you yeah yeah because that's a good eye
00:40:17
too because you know to see that and see how interesting that is and how it could be
00:40:22
cool because I was hooked immediately and you get Spike who I think has done some Beastie Boys videos and obviously a
00:40:27
bunch of cool things and and have a starkness to it and whatever the vibe was just that it works and it
00:40:34
worked on all levels you worked you being out there I always thought you were a skater I was always wondering if you were a skater yeah
00:40:40
I uh you know I skated like when I was 13 or 14 broke my ankle my dad just took my
00:40:46
skateboard and tossed it in the woods because I was going to miss baseball right I was right baseball was my sport
00:40:52
growing up in the woods boys are five feet away yeah yeah literally five feet away in Tennessee we had a pony in my
00:41:05
backyard you know oh it's all nice love Tennessee love Nashville by the way I did talk to Lauren during that time and I said really Johnny who Knoxville what what do
00:41:16
you think you know all the kids love it it's sort of pranks it's physical and I think it'll be really good with like our young demographic um and Johnny uh seemed like a really
00:41:27
nice man and we're gonna like [ __ ] bring him in and I go I don't know he's he's heating up on MTV Mike Dana trusts
00:41:35
me he knows a good deal when he sees it then after you took MTV he was really mad no I made that up we're gonna put
00:41:42
honey on Jon lovitz's nut sack and just let the bees go to town or maybe out of skunk you know it's up to him yeah
00:41:48
Lovitz is going to sit on a phallic-shaped child look at this app is nuts when they walk
00:41:55
on the monologue to your episode in 2005 and it's like happens to the best of us
00:42:01
as far as what you can do comedically in this universe in 2005 you had uh you might be a gay redneck if was one of your sketches oh The Jeff Foxworthy
00:42:14
thing yeah could could we do that now or explain that or what that was you might
00:42:19
be a gay redneck if you might be that was one of the uh sketches that I had trouble with in rehearsals I
00:42:32
thought I was doing fine but my apparently my rhythm was off was not good and it took me I know he I did did I do that sketch did that even make the
00:42:42
show uh as far as what I read it did but maybe it was only in dress were they asking you to do kind of a Jeff
00:42:48
Foxworthy twang is that what the character they wanted a problem it's just I couldn't get the Rhythm down and it sounds moronic to say that but it's you
00:42:59
know comedies stand-ups timing in my timing I couldn't I I just couldn't grasp them you know sometimes it's
00:43:09
embarrassing to admit but what was your first time it took me 80 shows to get my rhythm down on that
00:43:15
[ __ ] you know so yeah go ahead David and when I did a Jeff Foxworthy once and and it was a combination of you know you have the redneck and then he's got the way that he does it and I
00:43:27
think they're trying to emulate that and so I was doing the same thing where like do you go up at the end you go down then
00:43:34
I was I was you might be the Ebola virus and it was like if people see you and run there's a good chance you might be the Ebola virus if if people look under a microscope and
00:43:48
see that the zygote and I'd give a long description right you might be there's a you know so that was the same thing it's
00:43:55
like you have there's a couple different uh components to it not just a voice like you're Southern but your Southern
00:44:01
might be a little different than his Southern and then how his rhythm is how he does it to match and those things
00:44:06
they look for and then I've had Impressions taken away from me during the week I didn't mean to
00:44:19
[Music] you licked Horatio San's face in Versace mother I don't remember that I could one Versace mother since then this is Johnny's hosting gig from 35 years ago
00:44:32
and I'm asking him to tell me right now no I remember uh Dukes of Hazzard I remember
00:44:39
I ran let's see that one Dukes of hazzard's I remember he was in that movie yes well you've had a pretty big film
00:44:46
career too there's been a lot of movies besides jackass yeah I'm lucky to have feed in both areas but uh in the Special Olympics one was edgy could we do that
00:44:58
now but it was very funny I read the ringer I remember reading the Olympics were on the was on board like they that
00:45:04
movie wouldn't have got made if Tim Shriver was not on board with it yeah so I'm I'm proud of that film I
00:45:13
stand by it um one of my son's favorites he brought it up you know what I think Johnny I
00:45:18
read that movie I think what happened maybe and you you would know more but maybe just on the surface no one saw it
00:45:24
or bothered to see any messages or anything nice about they just said oh you can't do that yeah that's exactly
00:45:31
what happened because if you watch it you know it was it was sweet and I mean of course we went for it as far as comedy goes but you had to to kind of
00:45:43
Samurai get the message out there yeah so I I mean I made so many great friends on
00:45:50
that film you know uh Eddie barbanell who was in John Taylor they both appeared in Jackass 3
00:45:57
uh two of the guys uh uh Eddie barbin I was like a borsche belt comic he is so funny um when you do Jack S3 do you uh do you
00:46:09
audition these new people how what is that process like we reached out to people we knew mostly
00:46:15
um and and the people and we brought them in too the Jeff and I talked to them brought each cast member in to talk to him because at the end of the day we have to get along with you we liked
00:46:27
it we have to like having oh yeah that's the biggest hurdle to get over and then
00:46:34
we did a two-day test in December 2019 Spike Jones to his credits like we're older now how's this going to look is
00:46:41
this going to look sweaty we not only need to test the new people but we need to test the old guys to see how it looks
00:46:48
and so we did and that's how we tested the the new cast we just shot it like a film for two days we did about three or four bits a day and a lot made
00:46:59
the film so that is a hard part of it is a hard part of it like because you don't want
00:47:05
uh people to submit you don't want people getting hurt you don't need legal problems and I'm sure people say they'd
00:47:10
be good they'll do anything for you like they just want to be in it they'll do anything and they'll and you gotta be careful with those people because it
00:47:17
could look a little dark I mean someone yeah like I will do anything suddenly fight against right yeah it's not as
00:47:25
enjoyable to watch as a viewer like if you watch the B thing with Stevo and he's not howling and screaming and and terrified it's not as funny if he's just
00:47:36
standing there like a big deal there goes the comedy so that's the human part we're very honest about their emotions
00:47:43
yeah and and if you find something they don't like then do that uh and also the heavyset guy that went down the ramp and
00:47:50
flew and kept wiping out he was he was tougher than I thought he could do a lot of stuff yeah he's very athletic Zach uh
00:47:56
yeah Zach Holmes he's done some really naughty stuff and he's one of the those guys that would have done anything Jeff
00:48:04
and I asked and that's a lot of responsibility to have over someone and Jeff even took them aside one day we're
00:48:10
shooting somewhere and there was like a 60-foot platform up there it was unrelated to us it was a big one
00:48:16
platform 60 feet off the ground and Jeff's like hey Zach I think for this next bit we want you to jump off that
00:48:22
platform and you know we'll put some uh into a cup of piss yeah we'll put some uh mattresses I could work there for you yeah and he
00:48:35
he got so upset he got so sad and scared because he's like I'm I'm gonna do it and I was I was at
00:48:46
first I was going along with Jeff trying to be out we need you to do that but I saw that he was really going to do it
00:48:51
and I just walked away because I couldn't I couldn't do that to him any longer but he was definitely going to do
00:48:56
it then finally we let him off the hook like we're not gonna ask you to [ __ ] jump off yeah something 60 foot high onto a mattress well I just dove into
00:49:04
cactuses yeah he does he does some of that stuff where you think it's too much flying into the cactus I thought could
00:49:10
get in your eye you just never know I mean when the when the guy that went down the slide and you covered his arms
00:49:16
you know what I mean in the oil slide and then he eats all right right right yeah and you couldn't you could snap
00:49:22
your head I mean my God I go you just get lucky like aha everything's okay yeah I was in the hospital why they
00:49:28
filmed that oh you were really right before after the bull yeah and we had another bull bit to do that day I was gonna do two bull bits but after they
00:49:39
took me away in the ambulance none of the guys are like [ __ ] you we're not doing anything with
00:49:45
the ball it feels kind of like a it's there's a rhythm to it you know it's it's almost like sex it's like there's anxiety and Dread then there's fear and pain and
00:49:59
then there's resolution and laughter and relief you know each each set has the emotionality of these three quadrants
00:50:06
are you and Spike aware of that when you're editing it like this is how much anxiety and Dread now we've set it up
00:50:12
and now we're going to show you know what I mean because it really really works on an emotional and funny level
00:50:17
pacing is uh uh is has a lot to do with jackass because you don't want to put too many
00:50:23
like gross bits in a row or too many big stunts in a row you gotta have if you see something gnarly or you got to have a little pallet cleanser after that yeah and then you've gotta we spaced everything out and we have to space the
00:50:36
cast out you don't want too much of this yeah yeah so racing is something Jeff and I and Spike really focus on in the
00:50:43
edit like there's a little bit with just a little bit of dialogue more than a stunt it's like like might end in
00:50:48
something small but it's it is a little palette cleanser I like that I like that also also the guitar the crunch of
00:50:55
marinara whatever it is another genius just one more thing that makes it work yeah thank you that that song though if
00:51:02
you listen to it it's it's so different once the lyrics kick in it's just a beautiful like wistful song
00:51:11
Once the lyrics kick in but it sounds just like some hillbilly hoedown at the beginning yeah but it's something
00:51:17
different the parts you use are high qual Johnny there's uh sorry I was just I had a
00:51:23
question for Dana uh David uh I just interested a little bit in just you being from Tennessee and uh you have a some manner about you that's very sort of country and it's
00:51:35
very polite and sincere and I just want to you know just something about the culture of Tennessee I'm the only
00:51:41
Tennessee person I do is Al Gore and when I do him I he's a very Earnest and sincere man we're gonna do better because we have to with climate change and so you have kind of this country I'm
00:51:55
not saying Dolly Parton but there's a sincerity and likability about you anyway I'm just observing as I've gotten
00:52:00
to know you well thank you that's very kind Dolly grew up about 20 minutes from where I was so uh have you ever met her and hung out with her you know this is how this I have social
00:52:12
anxiety sometimes right so I was at yamashiro's oh yeah in Los Angeles oh in L.A you know yeah
00:52:24
yeah it's a restaurant Sushi yeah it's a sushi place and Dolly Parton walks out of the bathroom and I just it was like 10 years ago
00:52:36
and I just froze and I'm like I didn't want as much as I wanted to meet her I didn't want to bother her because I'm sure people grab her she walks out of the bathroom all the time and I just
00:52:49
couldn't do it so I froze up and I regretted it ever since right but I get real social anxiety sometimes and uh
00:52:57
yeah so that was my day I do that too people do that I think that's a polite way to go you sometimes kick yourself but but it is probably the most polite way to go is to yeah let let them be yeah
00:53:10
because you know you have it both ways huh but if you saw her and she came up to you it'd be fun like you know what I
00:53:17
mean like I wouldn't I would yeah I would yeah yeah I don't think any of us normal people
00:53:23
you know until you're Brando or something I don't how do you attach yourself to your own celebrity I had a
00:53:29
masseuse once in Malibu in the 90s and she was doing she was massaging Bob Dylan and she said Bob Dylan said to her uh that uh I've never I've never caught
00:53:40
up with my fame you know he's just he's just Robert Zimmerman and you're Johnny Knoxville and so but to me you're just really famous and like of course you go talk to Dolly but I get that I don't
00:53:51
ever think I'm a famous person I don't have no no connection to it at all and my wife reminds me if I do yeah Bob
00:53:59
Dylan and his zingers I was born very far from my home and I was just trying to get back home again at the beginning of no direction home oh yeah yeah he doesn't quite do that so
00:54:12
I love his later stuff I love his and I love when he does do banter with the audience some of these bootleg concert
00:54:17
films and he does just the worst jokes hey did you hear about the man who had five penises his pants fit him like a glove it's just terrible anyway here's Like a
00:54:30
Rolling Stone you're just blowing in the wind that's notorious I saw Adele she did she
00:54:38
was actually funny I saw Lionel Richie they both were doing jokes between like almost every song but they were working
00:54:44
and I was like God damn they have a better act than I do and they have their singing yeah so Dolly does jokes and
00:54:51
they're amazing she has such a great timing yeah she's a charmer she hosted SNL too and this was probably I don't
00:54:58
know 89 or something because she says yeah there's a like a little boy lives about 10 miles away from me and I I
00:55:04
think someday he's going to host SNL I said what's his name it's John Johnny Knoxville
00:55:11
[Laughter] she for sure knows who you are who doesn't know who you are Johnny I mean but you know my wife when I first
00:55:26
someone asked for my autograph and my wife who I've been with since uh 1950 she uh she goes oh you're famous now it
00:55:35
was so epipheral like yeah you mean all famous people are just people they're just somebody who got famous he goes oh
00:55:41
you're famous wow you you're famous that's unbelievable I go thank you dear no you're like I'm just a guy from Montana just kidding everyone is just someone from somewhere because they go
00:55:53
oh I'm just from Arizona I'm from Tennessee but it's very rare that people are just born in Beverly Hills famous
00:56:00
you know they're always coming here everyone's from somewhere so they don't they never quite believe it's happening all right we should let Johnny go I
00:56:06
think he's been a good sport Johnny are you on a press junker you got NPR next oh you do oh they're exciting they're exciting it's good okay get ready for
00:56:22
bees and balls questions Johnny Knoxville will be joining us next on TV us again while you wear glasses um why anyway
00:56:34
flannels Mr Knoxville why the Red Flannel in the dark glasses since I show the audience your penis to the plastic punishment room where we
00:56:46
will spray with things until you pass out hi I'm I'm ring finger down your pee hole let's give it a shot probably
00:57:01
and I had the catheter for three and a half years afterwards it was with the cancer did you forget to take it out
00:57:07
like bigger than a number two pencil and I'd have to jam that down the head of my penis sick or hit my bladder
00:57:14
so you could probably get a AAA battery or your pinky in there we'll see so are you happy every day you wake up then and you kind of oh maybe get some coffee oh
00:57:26
I don't have a pencil up my dick God that's a great day but after you film a jackass like for me it's like I got to
00:57:33
the end of the film and like I'm still walking and yeah I'm very and I'm not even trying to make a joke that's how
00:57:39
because you go into it like not knowing how you're going to come out of it and it's such a relief that okay I'm still
00:57:46
walking I'm still you know have control of my faculty semi is that is this your last fight before the Thriller in Manila or is this you you don't know yet
00:58:00
um well I think we could do another one but if if so I would step back and try to and sit next to Jeff behind the camera because I I can't like I unfortunately seen my last you know got
00:58:13
in with my last bull I think do that if you're out there laughing with everybody
00:58:19
I think it's okay I think if you're still part of it and you're laughing and you're setting people up I think as long as you're in the mix I would love to
00:58:25
volunteer to be suspended by a 300 foot crane nothing physical just suspended by one foot and kind of Swing me over Times
00:58:31
Square or something I'm just throwing it out there I'm available but I want a really tight knot I mean I want to be
00:58:38
really attached I'll do a show with you for ABC Family called jackass Juniors and we have little kids and we just push them into trains and walls and stuff we're not about you know we thought
00:58:50
about yes they're just like it was it's like you think about yourself oh that's a terrible idea
00:58:55
but it's funny I we're gonna call it ass Jack I have a show called ass Jack where no one gets
00:59:01
hurt and they just have lunch so it's a talk anyway it doesn't matter all right yeah it's called ask Jack's Delight it doesn't matter now my agent will contact your people anyway Johnny Knoxville
00:59:13
loved loved hanging out with you you're a great guy you're always nice quiet in person nice dude uh out when I see a
00:59:19
very cool and uh thanks for coming on it's a pleasure I really sincerely appreciate you having me on
00:59:27
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produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade Chris Corcoran of cadence 13 and Charlie finan of brilstein entertainment
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production and Engineering led by Greg Holtzman Richard cook Serena Regan and Chris Basil of cadence 13.