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hi I'm Dana anyway so last last week we had Sharon Stone she was she her show aired she was great and uh so we talked about this sketch where I played an Indian gentleman and Kevin nean was in
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it that Rob Schneider was in it uh Phil Hartman Tim medows and we were sort of asking her to remove clothing to go through an airport security thing and I said I apologize so it got some traction
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out there like it was a tearful hat and hand apology it was it it was I was I was kidding really it was
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like I officially want to it was 1992 uh I don't think I wrote that sketch so we had writer the whole audience went crazy Sharon why we you do the sketch like six times with you know
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the read through and this and then rehearsals she was such a sport with it so there was no reason to apologize but
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it really got traction like it was sort of a tearful I'm so sorry it was like Dana Carvey goes on hands and knees and
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begs forg yeah it's like look I did every nationality I still do it uh I don't make apologies but if on sidebar a very very good friend of mine
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is Hindu he's from India he's the director of Cardiology at CER Sinai I call him PK PK Shaw Dr Shaw he's
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brilliant he's a really good friend every single benefit I've done for Cedar Sinai Heart
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Institute I do some standup and I can't get out out of there until I do my PK stuff and he loves it so I um I I don't have a problem with it and my friend
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does not either D afterwards they said PK what do you thinking he goes I do not know who Dana Garvey
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[Laughter] is I like well I agree Dana that we get you know we like to get talked about we get a lot of nice YouTube comments we get a lot of people that talk about it
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and uh articles get picked up about people we interview and it's usually some fun stuff and uh Sharon had so many
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articles about her interview which means it's was sort of interesting she's she's
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very smart she's funny she I love her I think she's a great girl and uh I even hit her up after and said it's always funny the things you say on there you she just has quick wit and she got
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picked up for saying Shila boof was a genius she got picked up for saying uh Dana Carvey graveled and apologized to
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yeah on on all yeah she said I know the difference between a felony and a misdemeanor or
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something like that about like she goes I know when people are trying to pull something on me and you
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guys she said I've been you know it's basically she's in a Showbiz with the wine scenes of the world when she was
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here yes and she knows what's real and what's actually terrifying and bad she knows what it's like when the the the monster says close the door won't you you know
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yeah but a goofball comedian like Dana a go a harmless goofball weighing a goofy show yeah it
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weighs 140 pounds soak and wet in those days well let's also talk about our lovely new guest Christina Applegate yes who I know maybe a little more than you
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do only because I knew her a little bit in the old days because she was on as they called it married with kids Married
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with Children which was a monster hit we we had Neil on here uh Everyone likes that show everyone knows it it was breaking a lot of ground and she was like growing up turning into a huge star
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on a big show uh we got into that with her she was in Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead which Heather I just
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read yesterday their remaking is that crazy is that weird is that weird yeah she didn't even say anything I was like I don't know if she knows anyway she talked about everything
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in her life um what a lovely girl we cracked up we tried to make her laugh a lot she made us laugh and uh I had a
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great time with her yeah she's uh such a talented actress and she talked very openly about her health issues with MS and how it's upended her life and so it
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was uh it's a very real raw interview and she's funny the whole time she's always being funny but she's just been very honest about it and so it was a um
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different in that way but um she has a new podcast out um and uh the name is I was sorry with Jamie Lynn it's Messi right yeah it's
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Messi with Emmy a capital S small s y Messi which they talk about uh dealing with different autoimmune diseases and Ms and then just anything that's Messi in life and I do think uh she's uniquely
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skilled as well to be a great podcaster Jamie Lynn is it segler seagler seigler and who's also was from The Sopranos also very funny actress and so they
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probably it's probably a fun one you know they talk about stuff but they keep it light and she was cracking up because
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I I know my neck gives me stuff and when people start talking about that in my life I'm like I just want to talk about
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fun stuff like I don't want to over talk and and I'm right now people are over talking about that stuff with her
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that'll go away let's get back to her career and how much she she uh how much great stuff she's and she she's super
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fast and funny and it and uh there may be a podcast with David and no I can't say that right remember that was our mic drop at the end but she kind of reminds me of you just in your quickness you
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know she's quick she was a blast and uh I'm glad we got to talk to her so here she is Christine
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[Music] Applegate Christina said one minute ago she goes is this today what they go you're doing fly in the wall she goes wait right now no I didn't say that I
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didn't know it honestly yesterday I forgot that we were doing it today so I'm glad that at least some people are
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on top of it I missed one with Will Arnett I was just having dinner and I had no idea so David did it without me I did the whole thing that's well it's great you have a partner in your podcast
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in case you're like space out I've spaced out and i' but but no we we try to make sure we're both there okay we're
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going to let's start talking about your podcast and your hair let's talk about your podcast and your hair oh I don't want to talk about my hair it's filthy
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that's not because I did Kimmel on Monday I showered on Monday there you go I saw your appearance on Kimmel
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extremely funny relaxed confident yeah we'll call it that I like the way you were like talking to the audience like you guys don't really get me do you I think it's like I think the thing with
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having this disease is that people don't know if they can laugh and I just try to make it so that we can just laugh so we
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aren't crying about it so for me that's kind of my Mo basically is that I know how it is for people to see me like this you know and my appearance has changed drastically I have a cane
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it's a bummer so I try to just let people off the hook and then we don't have to talk about it and we can not
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have that little elephant in the room we also don't want sad faces I had a disease coronary artery disease and you'd get the what I call the RCA Victor the headwood Tilt yeah and they'd say
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are you okay right the little dog guy yeah and and yeah you just want to diffuse all that because who wants to be pied that's the worst feeling in the world no yeah I don't yeah I want to I
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want if I have the opportunity let's just laugh about pretty much everything and that's not really how I feel inside
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I mean I'm bummed I'm bummed as [ __ ] you know I I I hate it but I also I can't
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just like sit in it yeah I I agree and I I I like your msmo because it's it's a good way to to handle any sort of problems going on in
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your life where we're all kind of from Comedy backgrounds and it's sort of the move is to go back to Comedy because
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it's the only thing that kind of saves you and just keeps it light even though it could be very heavy just you know
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behind my closed doors in my house the people that are here with me who take care of me they see they see me crumble
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so all the time so out in the world I just like to keep I guess keep my my nervous breakdowns private we'll keep
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them at home keep the breakdown for that 12 minutes of Kimmel just yes just just
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just push through say whatever comes to your mind the worst day of my life and then I see David Spade's face and then I
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and becomes worse oh and then it's like well then the second thought is how did I get myself into this third thought is how do I extricate myself
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job now but I think the fact you're doing a podcast because I listen to a lot I think you have one out or two out
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we have we just started yesterday I mean it it launched yesterday but just welcome to us kind of thing what we're
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about yeah you're you're I think you're really good at this that's my blush review so and I think it's going to be
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great so I really I told other people that before I told you people think no uh it must be fun for you because it's such a fun riffy brain exercise like what we're doing right now as a job yeah
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it is it's I mean this is my job now you know I I am disabled I don't think I can work so this is my job this is what I
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have going on in my life right now um and the only thing so uh we started really about almost a like last year so
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we've got we've got like 10 episodes already oh really done so we can kind of relax right now sort of I mean not you
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know as far as recording but we have a lot of people coming up obviously but it's nice that we have the 10 so we can
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just kind of you know not you know freak out about what we're going to talk about
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but what we do what we do is like if we're having an issue in our life Jamie will call or I'll call her and say I want to talk about this but let's record it and and that's why we get it's very
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raw and so and it's very honest and it's not you know nothing's planned and yeah
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it's like our little therapy session that we well will you tell the fine people listening a little more it's Jam
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Lee Sigler right right yeah Jimmy ly seigler and I um both have MS and she's had it for about 20 years she kept it a
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secret for at least 10 so she was living in with this invisible disease trying to
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hide it on The Sopranos she was on The Sopranos if if in nobody knows but she was hiding it um until she couldn't so you know when her her walking got worse
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and things like that so um but she I couldn't imagine keeping it a secret cuz I was like once I found out I was like I
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can tell people because people weren't staring at me because I was walking weird or off balance or my speech would
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get strange and my hands would shiver because I was my nervous system uh was going into
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overload so that's that's our deal and she and I are friends and it was birthed out of the two of us literally just talking on the phone about a year ago or two years ago no I talked no three years
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ago I don't know how long have I had this for a minute so it just was like we would talk on the phone for hours and we'd be laughing and crying and we're like you know what let's let's record
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this because I think not just people with Ms want to hear this but anyone who's just going through something and we're all going through something so was really but then we also want to be funny
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and we have great guests that are hilarious and that's like our little comic relief is our our our guests are like people that we know people that we
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love and so those conversations are also in the same vein as as the ones that are are that Jamie and I do just on our own
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did you all did you um set out to make sure you have a guest every time or is it random like
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sometimes it can just be you two or sometimes you have a guest or is it always a guest no no no there'll be like two of us by ourselves and then a guest
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and we don't really have a pattern it's kind of like that's kind of good that's less stress oh yeah because we don't we don't want to have to deal with like
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people's schedules and stuff and it gets changed and so we have like a lot of just the two of us talking about pretty
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deep stuff and some stupid stuff you know just and and then parenting or or whatever is going on that day and then
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we'll be like oh you know who should we should have on and and it kind of is dictated by them when they can do it
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right but we our F our three guests that we have recorded are pretty cool it's like Edie Falco Martin SCH and Jimmy Kimmel right now so that's those are the
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ones recorded and those will just space out as we go and it's called messy messy
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just so people know with a a capital s in the middle yes a big M and a big s in the middle yeah I I do like to say that that was my idea like a little play on that's very cool and I do I do like the
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name because then it does give you the a giant scope because life is messy very on every quadrant so you're never run out of stuff to talk about no you don't we really don't yeah yeah Dana what
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would you like to talk about yeah we can talk about anything here we can talk about Christina's always been on TV I
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have some questions about just because chronologically when I I heard about you was married with Children and one of my
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weird questions was when you're on that show which turns into such a monster hit
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uh but you were pretty young when you started and you were kind of a sex symbol when it ended is it is that a
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weird transition you're pretty young to be a sex symbol well because I didn't see myself as that I just went back to
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living my life you know and I made choices after I left there to not do that again you know not play the sexy blonde right away I think the first
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movie I did when I left married was called nowhere it was a gregar rocki movie and I had purple and black hair it
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was short I had braces in it um I mean I I had a lisp I had a limp I mean I went
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like complete polar opposite the other way and I because I had that was for me like very um cathartic for me to did you
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just get shorter what happened Dave yeah okay that's my thing I I didn't think you could could get any shorter Dave you
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[ __ ] [ __ ] hey wait a minute we promised we would that's the kind of honesty I love I'm more touchy that is
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Christina afate and that is messy ladies and gentlemen we'll be right back I literally like almost fell out of frame I I know I saw you went from up here you
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went down here for a second so anyway Herve Val you're just trying find your your good angle anything about me is off
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limits but anything about you is on limits that's what we've decided [ __ ] no we're going to talk about you cuz you and I have known each other a very very
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very long time can I get some dirt I'm I'm I'm the Third Wheel here but can I get some dirt that you guys have either
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experienced together or you talked about some dirt some some trending something I don't know if there's dirt I mean I
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Prince Harry anything oh I don't know those people why would I know these people I don't leave my house no but we
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Dave and I we met on on SNL I think I was I don't even think I was like 21 even I don't know how oh really when you oh wow that was was it still married with children or you don't know yeah I
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think so yeah 93 May of 93 yeah okay all right and and I sort of gravitated towards you and um Adam and Chris barley
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yeah and we kind of hung out after work a few times like we were probably 26 so it wasn't that far apart we were going to bars we were like we it was like you guys kind of took me under your
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wing and I had such a good time with all of you and that was and you know of course Chris and and you and I being in
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the sketch the very first time van down by the river and we were laughing yes that's legendary I have to say I I hear about that I can't say every day anymore
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but there's it comes up so many times because that's how your name comes up always they people go oh my God you were
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in the thing with Christina Applegate is that the first one and you were laughing I'm like listen no one really wanted us
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to laugh it's that's like in trouble stuff like you get in trouble there if you laugh but what had happened to me
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personally is you I know now it's like everybody giggle laugh at yourself at how funny you is um you came down the stairs at the beginning and we had just
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done Gap girls oh that's right and you still had purple eyes Shadow on so now I'm already done I'm like and it was not like just a little it was like the full
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eye of purple eyes Shadow or blue eye shadow not enough time to get it off right yeah no and I I was like I was
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already on the precipice of of losing it and then Chris comes out and does his thing but he's taken it to 11 whereas in rehearsal it was 9.5 but then it was
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like he went so far into Looney town and Dave and I could not handle and I remember never seen such bigness no like Julia and Julia and Phil were so like
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kind of looking at us like mad at us because oh no they were very professional that's not who went I mean
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because it's just it's so iconic and Chris Farley did go to a level that of energy that I don't think we've ever
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seen achieved on the show a pure energy of any kind but did you guys simultaneously were you across from each
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other got eye contact and just we were side by side we were side by side and I could feel so who went first you could
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just feel him vibrating I think both of us yes he was my vibrator that day no he and I um I think we both broke at the
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same time it was like it was one thing he did and you and I both just like I could feel both of us
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like trying to hold it in as much as we could yeah and then I put my hair in front of my eyes because I knew I had a line come up like my only funny line in
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the sketch and I was like I'm going to say this freaking line what do you say What are you do with your life and you
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say I'm going to live down by the river and I with everything that was in myself
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was to like pull it together pull it together pull it together pull it together just to deliver the line and then I was done again then you can punch
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out again yes I can punch out he made he made I'm just thinking now just the the
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the squat deep squat he was in and then the way he would pull up his pants again he just took to a level I've never seen
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that's a mov he's done before but it's superal cork screw where he's like pulling his belt side to side just and
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then he falls into the table and that was it I think we just were like did he ever fall into the table before we're
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like yeah he fell into the table before but the way he had fallen into the table that in that particular moment was way
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dangerous it's the real one versus the the rehearsal one and the real one matters and that's when everybody gives
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everything yeah yeah if you're lucky you're peeking on air you want to think oh this is the best I've ever done it
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you hate to you hate to peek it Dr he almost fell through the floor too oh it it was it was so nuts oh my God he was
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such a he was so lovely he he also I remember remember they have this meeting when you get there as a host where all the cast and writers and get together
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and Pitch ideas in the room which I know you both know that but for your listeners yeah may not know that this is
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your first introduction and you can kind of tell if people are interested in having you there um I don't think anyone
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was very interested in me being there because the ideas were all kind of [ __ ] but I
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remember Farley was sitting he sat at my feet and he just looked up at me with this like crazy look on his face and just get giggled and just kept giggling just kept giggling and I was like who is this very odd human being who was this
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ax yeah and he came up he pitched uh the van down by the river oh did he pitch it
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in the meeting oh wow I believe he did that's great and I do remember Lauren saying to me hey you know Chris has been
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pitching this van down by the river thing for years would you mind if we do it he literally said that to me he's
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like I got to throw him a bone on this one he's pitched it so many times and I was like yeah of course why are you
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asking me I'm not the boss here and so we did and that is surprising remember Bob Odenkirk wrote it and then Bob left
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the she must have left by now because I think he said they did it when it was when he wasn't there so Chris wanted to
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get it on yeah so it but yeah so it was like a favor let's say and for it to become one of the most iconic you know
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sketches in SNL history is kind of amazing and I'm so happy to have been a part of it with you I loved it too that
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was a big moment for me to be in something that was memorable you know you do six years in that show and just
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like life there's a handful of things people remember from it and that's definitely to be in one of them was an
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honor and it made me remember you forever because we got to be in one thing together I just saw when Taylor uh
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no when Travis Kelce yelled at the coach at the Super Bowl I don't know saw that
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I don't I watch I watch reality programing what Super Bowl was it again 49 anyway um
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so uh Naked and Afraid nothing like it nothing like it so Travis Kel's yelling at the coach and then the next day
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there's a meme of Travis Kelsey as Farley yelling at me and then I never even saw next to me was you but they put
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Taylor Swift there so it's so it's a meme of him yelling at us and I'm like me and Christina they go no that's Taylor and they it looked exactly like you but it oh I'd love to see that that's funny oh I'll send you a
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link oh also let's talk about um talk about another monster is uh well I don't want to skip over Don't Tell Mom the babysitters de I love that it's such a
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weird phenomenon that don't people love that like to this day and I was like really little when I did that was that mid uh Married with Children or
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something yeah how old were you God 20 you're like 20 you're like the baby babysitter but uh it was such a weird movie dan not just weird it was just a good comedy with a funny title but I
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thought I don't remember even that much about it other than going God that's a funny movie I don't remember that much about it either because it didn't do
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well but it's become this thing and you know catchphrases have come from it you know and and it's so strange to me like still people tell me about it I think that's very important I have some movies
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do okay a lot don't and then you go I just want 10 years later the ones that I hear about the most matter because that hit something in somebody and that's what matters there's
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some movies that make 200 million and you go oh yeah I saw that when it came out and you go there's nothing memorable
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about it there's nothing it just comes and goes so I like the ones that hit a nerve like that yeah I think we had to pay people to see it I think it was one
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of those situations got to that far yeah it was it was it was a real slam not dunk was just real bad and it just grew
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and grew and grew and then you know the I'm right on top of it Rose and dishes are done man and all these things that
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people still like still say to me yeah you were pretty snarky in it was that right yeah I was very but I was very
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snarky and I've always been very snarky and especially when you know when I was doing it it was like a studio movie and I was so like into Independence and so I
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like I am not going to do a studio film horrible real bad like I need an indie I
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was that I was really that [ __ ] and gross I was like I was like super resy doing it too and I think I'm doing you a favor yeah I'm doing you a favor so I
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guess it kind of like made the character kind of a different teen like icon because I was such like like smoking cigarettes in it and like just snarky
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and just you don't give a [ __ ] don't care and yeah yeah I think Dana the the grand
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the somebody die I don't know somebody dies and you keep it going it's in it's in
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the title sweetheart okay don't tell Mom M the babysit dead it's starting to sink in now I'm starting to get it and is it
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available on Amazon Netflix I'm sure it's available Christina will come over you get your wherever you get your '90s teen comedies 90s stuff you can also it
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it's it's tied up with PC PCU in a package deal yeah there you go PCU was a movie I did in the days didn't but there you go back then we didn't get backend which really now to this day like makes
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me so mad because I know people have been watching it and buying it and stuff over all these years and you know that's
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the kind that makes 10 million in the theater Dana and then it makes a 100 million on video and someone's quietly
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raking the [ __ ] money and but it's not me or Christina right Anchorman was the gift that kept on giving because we didn't because we also we also didn't make the money that they wanted us to
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make when it opened oh really actually it was considered a flop what like one of the executives um at DreamWorks who was a friend of mine like called me crying on Monday going we didn't do it
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we just didn't do it godam and then it just grew and grew and grew and we were lucky enough to have a little py piece on the backy back and oh once the DVDs
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yes DVDs came out oh that's W no tapes VHS tapes sorry they weren't DDS back then once that happened it was like the little Che would come in and I'd be like well this is this is the gift that keeps
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on giving mailbox money not anymore but you know no but then can from a movie is so rare yeah you say like it was
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AER would say it was a bomb because it was so different and then it's like a cult classic how much did it eventually
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make 300 million something I mean like I'll never see it even close to what those people did but I mean the fact
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that like it was like that Monday morning was a somber Monday what a bummer you couldn't even celebrate it
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took so long for you to figure out it was a hit one day you're just like I think this is a [ __ ] hit yeah and
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then it and then it yeah and it's sequel yes so it has to do x amount to really sequels are a gamble so but it took 10 years for it to like yeah it was really 10 years of people finding it for it to
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become that wow yeah but so many lines talk about lines to repeat so many stars and so many people that just [ __ ] love it you it's such a good part yeah she was a fun one and you know I wasn't
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sure about doing that either I was like so that guy I was like I don't know what were you sure about you dodged one
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bullet Christina I think let me go do that $100,000 budget movie and be like I think you didn't Mike want to get you for W's World 2 which didn't do that
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well I think I think the part was it being being like a like a [ __ ] girl I think or like myself but like or the
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idea of what I was and you know me I was like I can't do that because I am an artist I remember Lauren saying H Chris
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Christina pass oh I'm sorry that was was news on the set today that's you're you're you're fine I always when anyone turns out anything my respect meter goes up
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like they just do what they want you know Christina wants to know if it could be an astronaut instead
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yes an astronaut science top of her class my my wife who probably didn't watch Married with Children things like this so she got really acquainted with
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you on dead to me and is a crazy fan of that show so that must be kind of fun for you where people are like didn't really are that familiar with all your work and then see this show which was
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brilliant thank you and really like I'd tell people Ozarks I'd tell people why didn't you turn down dead to me youve seen dead to me you know I was going to lose my S I know I was offer the James
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Mar part it was me and Jimmy Marsen jimy and I said let Jimmy do it you said IO Christina a turn down I'm turning I'm passing I why didn't I turn that down no
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I'm saying why did Dana turn why did Dana turn it down oh yeah okay Undead to me yeah he can't be bothered with that
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[ __ ] I miss you never you never hurt your career by saying no these are Lauren isms no one's ever ruined their
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career by saying no it's only would like you say yes yes he he produced a show I was on called up all night with Will
00:29:09
Arnette and Maya Rudolph um I know you're like looking at like what was that I was like it was on for two years
00:29:16
guys it actually really good it's actually a really on TV on the television programs on NBC I was it NBC
00:29:24
had to that's a la yes it's a la learn a lot we were doing that all your SNL people Emily Spivey created it um oh that's pretty safe out you got
00:29:36
Lauren Emily you got Maya yeah it was very SNL heavy when did that bomb when did that bomb um 11 13 years ago 13 years ago because
00:29:48
um it I had just had my baby and now she's 13 so we did that for two years from 2011 to 12 to I think then yeah in 2013 13 um the old plug aroon was pulled
00:30:02
um I hate that when I hear about shows getting it's actually really like I've seen it now I didn't see it at the time
00:30:08
and I I watch it now and it's really clever because it's about new parents and kind of that and I was going through
00:30:15
that at the time and Will was going through it and Maya was going through it like having like little ones and trying to live live life and and struggling
00:30:23
between like trying to stay young and like drinking all the time you know just all the things that you like get up for
00:30:29
for being a parent it was actually quite good I'm not going to lie I like this figure of speech that cast is a
00:30:34
murderer's row it's a murderers R you have Christina and Maya and will just it's well people at home that know learn about Hollywood really if you're pitching a show even to this day they'll
00:30:47
be like who's your showrunner we want a sexy showrunner that people know like a Tina Fay someone that's they just don't want to get fired so they're like if I put Christina in she's a big star Tina
00:30:59
feay is a big writer we get a big producer in there and we get a good Studio that is the safe way to try they
00:31:06
they'll buy that because they don't want to have anyone pointing to them saying why would you buy that it didn't work you say this is the safest we can do
00:31:13
everyone's good and so with that cast everyone's good probably a good idea and sometimes and two years isn't bad that's
00:31:19
not bombing overnight I I am the two-year Queen every show that I've had that's been my show has only been two
00:31:26
years except for dead to me two years dead to me was three so it didn't really make it out of there too much but no I
00:31:33
agree I mean I think that but also with our show like we got to cuss on NBC so we were like the first show that like we bleeped constantly so it just kind of made it a little edgy a little whatever
00:31:45
it was like a cool little show but I think then they kept moving us that's what happens a
00:31:51
lot that really is we were doing so well and then they're like you're doing well so let's move you yeah to a strong
00:31:58
enough to hold another night and they're like nope and goodbye and bye that was kind of whated I did two years with your
00:32:04
friend Katie Seagal on um my friend on uh eight simple rules let's look at a clip yeah no I'm kidding uh no I uh she was great and she had done yours and she
00:32:16
was great she's such a solid like knows what she's doing no she's she's an Earth Mama she's she raised me so I always say
00:32:23
if if anyone have has any issues with me it's because I was raised by Katie and Ed so like if you don't like it it was
00:32:29
Katie and Ed if you do like it it was Katie and Ed yeah she was Raising Kaye and the other girls on that show and uh they
00:32:36
went for her all the time she's what what Ed O'Neal speak I mean on this do we kind of Love Ed O'Neal like want to hang out with him yes I don't
00:32:47
know he and I he and I talk on the phone like at least three times a week oh really great yes that's all I need to know yes like at least three times a week but he calls me a lot too and Eddie
00:32:59
it's totally fine but he'll call me like at weird hours and he knows I sleep to a certain time and then I'm like get all
00:33:05
these missc calls from Ed and I'm like is there an emergency and he's like no I just want to talk you know so but yeah
00:33:11
we just sit on the phone for like an hour sometimes and just laugh and talk about life yeah he's he's something
00:33:17
about him he's fun to talk to man does he FaceTime you from his Brinks truck I know Golds behind backing that
00:33:26
[ __ ] up I swear to god wow never ending yeah we went off topic with him because I it was he was like our second guest and I became so fascinated by his
00:33:38
background he was almost a maid guy and he's got these popey forearms and and he's so gentle about it and real is like
00:33:46
there's no sense he's an actor I said did you were you thinking when mared when children was blowing up what's
00:33:52
going to happen to you he goes no I was just thinking finishing that week's I mean he's the most Kind of Blue Collar
00:33:57
oh yeah Vibe about a star and so fun to talk to about anything yeah and and really just says stuff that's not PC and and and those are behind Clos doors and
00:34:09
it's it's always been that way he doesn't care different generation I like that but he's awesome and and I think
00:34:15
it's so nice now that because I am a grown you know I'm 52 years old and um we didn't have this kind of relationship when we were doing the show you know we were the kids and right Dave and I and kind of treated differently um like
00:34:27
second class citizens basically if you're the kids sure and you know now in the household and in the show and and
00:34:34
and now you know we can be friends because I'm a I'm a grownup I've had a lot of life that I've lived and so we we
00:34:40
we talk on the same level which is what's really nice and we love each other to death and Katie too Katie's
00:34:45
come to see me a couple of times um in the last year and we She lays in my bed and we just hold hands and talk and cry
00:34:52
and watch TV yeah I mean that was your such a part of your upbringing that uh it's probably hard it's just such a to be you were
00:35:06
kind of a child star I mean when did you start that thing well we started married at 15 but I've been you know I joined
00:35:13
sagot in 1974 so this has been part of my life for like like K like not kidding it's on the I'm doing a honeycomb commercial I don't even know what I was doing but I've been in Sag for a long
00:35:24
time and um so I did a lot a lot of stuff before that I was on two different series before that and that no one saw obviously and then lots of um guest
00:35:35
appearances on everything from you know silver spoons and Family Ties you know everything that was on at the time I was on and you know what was funny and
00:35:46
married with Children was I think when you came in or any any girl that was pretty came in the audience goes wo
00:35:53
before you can even say a line it's so funny it was yeah they started we would actually get annoyed sometimes
00:36:00
because it like breaks the Rhythm it breaks the Rhythm but it also takes up time and then oh and then yeah but yeah
00:36:07
I I never thought I was like I created that character because I saw a movie called The
00:36:14
Western the decline of the western civilization part the metal years Penelope ferus yes yes and there was a girl in there who just won Miss gazari and they were asking her what she was
00:36:25
going to do next and she says Miss gazari yeah and she I'm gonna continue with my modeling and my actress and she had on you know the little like her dress and Kelly bunny
00:36:38
was a totally different character before that she was like biker chick and you know during the years that no one saw it
00:36:44
she was like a little biker chick kind of tough kind of stuff and I was like no we need to represent this what this is
00:36:50
going on right now in in the Ze guys like these girls like these Rock [ __ ] girls and I was like let's go let's do
00:36:56
it and we went the next day to Melrose to get like a bunch of those little dresses that I had never put something
00:37:02
on like that in my life because I was a hippie I love Janice Joplin and the Beatles and Le Zeppelin I was totally not that guy and lo and behold that's
00:37:09
where the character came from how cool that you Ste wait a minute they listened to you when you were a teenager and
00:37:16
adapted that's pretty cool yeah like once they saw the look we were like oh this yeah this is what we're doing like we're playing one of those girls that
00:37:22
we're seeing in these videos with these hairband guys like this is who she is yeah and I played as a virgin I know a
00:37:28
lot of people like laugh at that but for me Kelly Bundy was a virgin because I think if if I had played her as actually you know going out there and
00:37:40
being [ __ ] like there would be an essence of that that I don't think people would have kind of loved her so
00:37:46
for me it was never said it was just my little My Little Secret I know you're like yeah right but that's how I play gu
00:37:54
as a ver virgin you yeah and then you're lovable then you're skanky and you're not like you know edgy and un it makes
00:38:00
people uncomfortable so I think that's what work well Mike assisted me because the second movie I think his line was
00:38:06
this year and he always did this gu finally got pubes and I was 38 at the time I'm like how am I supposed to play guys think I'm 15 there's not enough life we don't even know how old you are
00:38:17
we're like yeah no one ever knew even G didn't know his own age that's really funny how old are you I don't know those
00:38:25
movies were great by the way just FY the first one had a lot of Sparkle to it because we had no time and we were just
00:38:31
innocent you know we were just moving very fast and the second one's like okay you know well talk about iconic I mean
00:38:38
the scene in the car that's like you know you can go and repeat with that yeah I was on a zoom we were on a zoom we me and Mike with Brian May and
00:38:49
talking about that song and stuff and I think that uh you know syncopation is so potent when you see musical movies so we're all just like
00:39:00
wandering around and then the song goes off nothing really matters and we're just all the whole thing is deflated
00:39:05
down and then when I see it I go oh [ __ ] no wonder that was a hit that feels so good
00:39:12
all heads are going to that beat what was that musical LA from five years ago with Ryan Gosling and La La Land La La Land La La Land when I saw that I was like oh they're on the bench and it's
00:39:26
not even that sophisticated but their legs are crossing at the same time and they're tapping at the same time it's
00:39:31
very irresistible let's you know just appreciate it but Dana goes that movie La La Land La Land he never knew his La La Land just
00:39:43
early onet that's what she said knock knock it's a joke early onet I have a question but this one I don't knowes let's just call it onset of herpes this trivia of many of Christina
00:39:57
you don't have to talk about it but this River Phoenix who I don't think I ever ran into but you were there that night at the Viper Club because I live right
00:40:04
by the Viper Club M you were there that night M well I never knew that that's heavy duty were you friends with them and then I I'll ask you yep godamn River Phoenix what a stud I I was more
00:40:18
probably involved in what had happened than than people know and I don't want to talk about it out of respect for rain and Walkin and so um but yes um River
00:40:25
actually and this I can talk about River was one of the reasons I became a vegetarian at 14 oh yeah he was you know
00:40:33
his family's vegetarian and and he brought me to this uh really incredible um like fundraiser event that for his
00:40:41
family had a a great vegan cookbook and and it really like he really wanted me to just kind of see the light and and I
00:40:47
did and it was one of the reasons and he was early on in that oh he's no they he grew up that way and uh but Walken who
00:40:56
at the time his name was he and river and I when we were like 10 maybe 10 years old we took break dancing classes with Jason Harvey hervy Jason
00:41:08
hervy Jason who's Jason hervy I don't know Google it he was on the the show with the the 1950s and the talkie talkie
00:41:15
narrator and the kid oh I know him yeah yeah yeah yeah what is it show called come on Wonder Years thank you Wonder Years there we go we have a winner the
00:41:26
three of us took three of us took break dancing classes with him when we were little that's how long how did you find
00:41:33
break dancing cuz it's it's it's incredibly intense exercise you can top rock it or you go to the floor it was Jason hervey teaching it so it's not like you know but I could do
00:41:45
like no I could do like 30 backspins what does that mean on your back where you spin on a piece of cardboard holy [ __ ] can't do anything like that now for many reasons I'm old I
00:41:59
have to say I know Walken a little bit and that guy could not be cooler and what a stud what a great actor I never
00:42:04
remember um okay we're going to go back to Pussycat Dolls you were part of the early Pussycat Dolls cuz I used to see them was it maybe at The Viper Room maybe was Viper Room this our first performances were at Viper and Robin
00:42:16
Anton who create created it was my roommate and so it was actually created in my dance studio which is now my gym
00:42:23
unfortunat but you know but it was a dance studio I always made a dance studio in every house I moved into because I was a dancer at heart and um
00:42:31
yeah I was in the first all of it for like I don't know we did for like 12 years on it like at The Viper Room and
00:42:37
then it got big and it was then it was at the Roxy and then we started having singers in it like Gwen stani Christina
00:42:43
agilera Carmen Electra yeah all these people would come and do the songs and then yeah Jimmy iven from inner scope
00:42:49
was like you know what let's turn this into a band and then it wasn't a dance group anymore then it became a pop band
00:42:55
and it was like changed completely but yeah yeah I it feels like that's something that will come back like someone will be like we're going to read the let's audition the people for the
00:43:05
Pussycat Dolls and remake I think they have I think Robin has a place in Vegas yeah oh they do I always like to say
00:43:12
this Robin does owe me like three months rent and I and I think she but she really does but I'm like oh she does and one time she pulled up in like her her Bentley and I was like you know you owe
00:43:24
me like at least three months rent before you moved out of here so because then she became like a you know a mogul
00:43:31
she's now a mogul mogul yeah I'd like to become a mogal mogul at all I don't know I mean I'm investing I'm doing what I can making some moves
00:43:43
Dana's hair looks good no one can see it today but he's nailing it no one can see it it's a lot of work you know I have
00:43:50
only so many soldiers and so much territory it's like a game of Risk up here and um when I do what I need to the
00:43:57
front move the troops this way hide these yeah you could have this you got a solid scrunchy something going on I know it's the only thing I can do my hair is so like gray now I got to put it up on
00:44:08
top of my head no so where how are you feeling like at this moment I mean in terms of your energy is it Ean flow because you were like really on on kiml
00:44:20
last night and you're very sharp right now you know I mean I take naps all the time but do you how are you managing your energy is it just surprising or you you can you do stuff like I'll beond
00:44:32
this hour that's kind of how it is it's like I have to prepare mentally that I'm gonna have to wake up because I do sleep
00:44:39
a lot and I'm like okay let's just do it do it do it and then I do it and then I'm exhausted and then I'm kind of busted for a few days after doing things I don't want it to be like that you know
00:44:51
there's like this little sense of Hope in me that I can play tennis again and you know we kind of know I won't be able to but there's this place in me that I'm
00:44:58
like I belong to a tennis club I really do I pay dues at the tennis club and I can't play tennis anymore but there's
00:45:04
this part of me like no I'm not going to give up my my membership I'm because I got to get there I'm going to get there
00:45:10
and I'm gonna hit balls I don't know if it's GNA be on the court I mean I don't know you you're probably steeped in this
00:45:17
but in in the in the sort of disease I had where my LDL cholesterol would be 3 to
00:45:23
400 then only last year they had a by-ear shot which would bring the bad cholesterol kind of the pace that your your body would use to make arterial plaque now mine is 39 there's no side
00:45:36
effects it's done a different way than a Statin in other words the technology and
00:45:41
now ai and biom medicine or just married at the hip and you're young I mean there
00:45:47
must be a lot of things coming down the pipe May resolve this there's like the regulars that we all do which are infusions and they're like pretty
00:45:57
hardcore infusions they um they attack the B cells in your body and it's known to now slow progression um so for the last three years I've had no new lesions on my
00:46:09
brain and no active lesions there's still lesions but like for some the the medicine's working to not progress
00:46:15
because this is a disease that you eventually you succumb to um if not for these medications uh it was the disease that people just died from you just it was that was it and you still can but
00:46:28
we're hoping that you know we got these ones that are kind of keeping it from getting worse but it doesn't get better
00:46:34
that's the thing that I don't think people understand there is they're working on getting it better but right now they're just slowing it down we're
00:46:40
just slowing it down and so that we can live a little bit longer than what people you know people were just dying from it like within a year they would become paraplegics and be done so there
00:46:54
is you know at least we have these things but you know of course I don't know I I would love for something to
00:47:00
they'll be like we've got it yeah but because they don't know how you get it there's always that question of you know
00:47:06
oh they still don't know no no there's a lot of theories on that and no one's really figured it out because it's all
00:47:13
different kinds of people with all different kinds of Lifestyles and all different kinds all different ages now
00:47:18
people are getting in their 20s it's not like a health thing it's not like healthy people get it yeah no no not I
00:47:25
mean all the people that I know who have but we're all very different lives we've lived and ages and no one thing so
00:47:34
that's why that's where it gets confusing for the medical industry and and the scientists who are trying to figure it out I think because there
00:47:39
really is no known reason God it really raises awareness though that you're out [Music] there I wanted to say to you guys too because I know that you guys had asked
00:47:54
me kind of La I think it was last year or something to come on and I wasn't ready to speak to anybody about
00:47:59
anything so I want you to know that I was not like not wanting to be with you guys us what you weren't big timing us
00:48:08
no I was I was literally like I can't speak to people I'm I'm too upset right now and so until I got my confidence back to be able to see who I was again
00:48:20
or get back to who I am in my in my heart understand a million percent yeah and it just time is such a a magic elixir of trying to put your mind around
00:48:30
what happened to you you know and what's happening because it's surreal right and it's I I forget about it in my dreams
00:48:38
you know and then I wake up in the morning and the first foot goes down onto the ground and all the pain starts again and then I'm reminded again and
00:48:46
then I just want to get back into bed because I don't want to be reminded of it I mean that's really my cyclical thing right now which is probably not
00:48:52
the healthiest for my emotional life and my spiritual life and all the lives that you have but right now that's the deal
00:48:57
I'm in my dream and I'm doing things and then I wake up and I'm reminded again of
00:49:02
kind of the hell that that people with Ms live through and then that people be like well why aren't you doing as well
00:49:07
as so and so and you're like oh my God it's not it's so different for every single one of us is so different it it depends on where your lesions are it
00:49:18
depends on when you caught it it depends on so many things so it's I really get even my dad was like if why sell is on Dancing With the Stars why aren why
00:49:29
aren't you doing what Selma did I was like om frustrating oh my own have you tried bananas are you eating enough bananas I heard that Lion's main mushrooms can cure it I said oh really
00:49:42
so tell that to the millions of people in America that have it that oh we just take a lion's Man Mushroom and we're
00:49:49
just what we're just symptom free are you kidding me the human brain if someone gets a disease or something
00:49:57
the human brain goes to why they can't get it yeah I eat tomatoes or whatever it is it's absurd and ridiculous they just don't want to think that they don't know because it's frighten it's
00:50:09
frightening for people especially when they ask me well how did you get it and I say no one knows man you can get it
00:50:17
tomorrow I wouldn't say that to someone but like literally you can think it I do think it I'm like you keep asking me
00:50:23
that yeah maybe that's that's the reason you and Selma are both so funny I Selma's great I've known her over the years she's so funny uh I'm sure she has her ups and downs also but it's great
00:50:35
that uh I saw her out the other night she looked great anyway I I she's kind of an enigma Selma Blair she's oh some
00:50:43
of Blair Jamie and I are always like how is she what is she how's she doing that like both of us are like same thing what
00:50:50
how is she out there like tomatoes apparently it's Tomatoes yeah gradient scale of how it you know but I it's it just talking to you now it's I think it
00:51:03
doing this podcast with jamy is if for better for worse somewhat healing or helpful anyway it's in the helpful column right being able to talk about it with her and talk about it publicly
00:51:15
you've done 10 are you feeling good that you decided to do this yeah this podcast
00:51:22
absolutely because if I didn't have Jamie and I didn't have these conversations honestly like not on business level of like of course we want
00:51:28
it to do well so that you know she and I who don't really work you know like we can live and put food on the table and
00:51:35
stuff but it also has been like it gives me something to look forward to that I'm
00:51:42
I'm because I spend 99.9% of the day alone and so it's like I actually get to talk and and there's an actual conversation and not like my daughter acting me you know like Mom go get me my
00:51:55
thing you know and that's kind of the no we she and I actually hang out my daughter and I are pretty good friends but you know it's like nice to
00:52:01
just think of something in the day and think of something to talk about then you do a little pre thing with her and
00:52:07
say what we do here that all that stuff is fun Dan and I do that it's kind of fun it's something that I like to fill a
00:52:14
day with it's nice and uh you know you what you have is interestingly you have an unmistakable voice and I do like
00:52:21
voices and I it's just once you say your voice I know it's you and that's great especially especially for a podcast so
00:52:28
uh we we wish you well with it and um we appreciate you coming on here I just like having some laughs with you for a while I haven't seen you in so long I
00:52:34
know and we always like laugh when we're together out in the world it's fun always because we're both really snarky
00:52:41
yeah I'm SN Dana is s I said to David I was watching more of your stuff I said you guys are Kindred Spirits he did say that he said that right before there's a
00:52:53
certain wit um I don't know what you call it but yeah you guys our sidebars are pretty like when David and I have been out places like like surrounded by people like at a party and the two of us
00:53:05
find each other and are just like total [ __ ] um it's just but make each other laugh yeah yeah you know what's
00:53:11
funny Stan award as the first person to say I was snarky and I never knew what that word meant and I never heard it and
00:53:17
and then I had to ask people I said is that a mean thing to say they said no it's just what you are and I'm like well
00:53:23
it could be mean I don't know let me I still don't know what me it can be but it's funny I like it I like being snarky
00:53:30
I like being like offensive and funny and I enjoy like surprising people by what comes out of my mouth it makes me happy because that's what happening in my brain I'm gonna throw this out from
00:53:42
you guys you two do a spin-off podcast a lot of people have three or four called snark attack oh yeah the title that's
00:53:51
got tradar we have one week called snark week oh yeah snark week all play on words M and then there's not much to it but it's a funny play on words yeah and
00:54:02
we just think that we're hilarious yeah we laugh so [ __ ] hard we laugh at all the funnies that come out of our mouths
00:54:09
and no one else is no El let's let Christina go and thank you very much Christina thank you for coming on thank
00:54:15
you so much for having us and and thank you for doing what you're do and thank you for I don't know I love you both I
00:54:22
really do thank you for all everything huge fan we love we're sending a lot of love big fan big fan by this has been a
00:54:30
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00:54:41
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00:54:47
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