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hey guys we have uh a band sometimes we have music on sometimes we have hosts sometimes we have writers this is uh Kings of Leon who huge band three
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appearances we hadl yeah on we had Caleb we had Jared and uh the two representing
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the four brothers are the follow will brothers and their cousin and that is Kings of Leon and um they've done many
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albums they're incredible they're really sort of I love their sound they were you'll find you'll find them so personable and so humble about how big they are you know uh they're huge in the
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UK we find out all about their asymmetrical childhood um father was a preacher and they're traveling around and they couldn't watch television and so forth and so on but they're very very
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very interesting and we we talk about their new album which just dropped and uh they're going to play The Forum in La maybe we'll be there yeah and they knew everything about us and SNL they knew
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all comedies their dad would only let them watch Comedy uh Jared was quoting red red necki the redneck comedian so they they knew also about this podcast they they know how Spade let's go to the
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tape let's look at a clip oh yeah they they knew everything that was very surprising and flattering we've never
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had that so really really enjoyed hanging out with them on on this show all right here they are Kings of [Music]
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Leon oh dude I'm three days away from doing Cameo I love it John love St to do Cameo and then he said yeah well I do get a
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piece of yours if I get you in you know it's like one of those schemes anyway how are you guys today I know you've
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been doing a lot of press and you're about to go out so we want to make this one your most fun one and relaxed one
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and whatever that's that's my dream this is our most anticipated that we've ever
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done like we're very excited to be doing this oh yeah so nervous huge huge hug tell your voice um anyway why well you don't you not have a beard do you not have um did
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something change yeah she's at home that was a good one that was a good one by the way Dana I have to get this out of the way I was a little flumed because
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last time I played the Ryman uh a couple of these goofballs were maybe gonna come down and then they
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ran to a different show is that POS is that possible yeah that was uh well I I was kind of pressured by Nick schwartzon to come oh that's what it was that
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[ __ ] idiot Warris put so much pressure coming he knew that I was coming to yours and he got he gets very
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jealous so he's like oh here you going I was like all right oh my God yeah he just texted me and I'm like does he know
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we're doing this because I didn't tell him and I'm like I don't want him to go those guys are my boys ask him this
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stupid [ __ ] I'm like I'm not doing anything you text me ever yeah don't tell him he'll
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get uh no but he's fine he's like my child that has like learning disabilities yeah he's a sweet sweet sweet he's about as sweet a human being as they come they there's equal but no
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more than than Nick he is a nice guy but I was I was so annoyed that night I go oh my God he must have thrown a temper tantrum I go Nick Nick's show is like at six he does like a um a twilight show or
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something I'm like what are you doing I like that I like that yeah I do oh you yeah believe me I did uh the I used to
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do the Mirage with with and Dana's done it and it was a late show it starts at 10: we hate it because love crowd don't
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get me wrong we're all [ __ ] spoiled obviously all four of us but when you get those late
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shows and you know I'm trying to I swear I always think music can get away with a
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little more because if you guys have trouble you can kind of grind it out and if we don't do well it's you know it every 10 seconds when we don't get a laugh it just keeps reinforcing we're
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not doing well yeah that's rough we uh you notice for sure I mean if a crowd's bad it's it's brutal up there um but yeah you're right we get to kind of just keep chugging along but we'll we'll turn
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down we just turned down a show in Mexico because it doesn't matter if I say it but like they had us going on stage at
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11: p.m and I looked it up there's a time change no thanks we're like two hours behind going on stage at 1:00 am I
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would be dead well in Vegas tough to do a show it's horrible that the show you actually at the stage at that hotel at like 10:40 everyone's by the pool it was
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117 that week so the point is you come out in the audience there's nothing they're they're either past their
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drinking Peak and asleep or they're just burnt and for a comedian it's really hard it's a tractor pole you guys just crank it up yeah I'll be driving past
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like a pub when we're about to play some big place in London like 5:00 P p.m and
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I'll look at like a plumber and I'll be like ah if I could trade places just just just just today we'll go right back
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to being rich tomorrow but just today that's what that's what I call the beauty of regular people doing regular
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things and believe me I we were barely middle class five kids and you guys have kids now but regular people doing regular things I have siblings to do it and I they're really rooted in it and
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when you're in show business isn't there always this kind of little Edge to life it's sort of this thing or what do you
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call it how do you guys deal with being who you are um we grew up dirt dirt poor
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like the real life Red Red Neck Joe Joe Dirt po you got both of them in there red red
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necki you ever fart I'm red red necki the redneck comedian you ever fart so loud dog to stay away go what that you forgot to say come and get some
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come and get some oh I forgot my catchphrase God damn yeah ever crap so big you don't know going to get that
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that tur it come get S you don't have to make sense gotta got so big it doesn't even matter I met my sister only because Mama T me down come on get that's it I'm
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done it's a trifactor go ahead we I I could just sit here and listen to you guys the whole time we're we're the least famous people to ever be on this
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podcast I've listened to every single one of them oh you have I love it what huge fan um and so just being on here it
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we don't even have to talk we can just listen to you guys do thing no some credit Dana these three times on SNL a lot of our a lot of our comedians we
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have on our friends we're not an snil but we like the comedy so much we want them on like um you guys have knocked
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out three you had three good hosts I think you had Emma Stone one time and you had uh James Franco what a blast though to get it's got to it's got to
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tell you you're doing well if you keep get invited back because it's it's hard to even get on that show Once for a band
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or a or a host I think yeah absolutely uh we also had John Goodman was our third oh yeah that's right your last one oh wow he's talented yeah can I can I just say so about you you actually
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listen to this podcast you guys I don't know I want you to talk about this because they they list you as
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alternative Indie um you clearly are gigantic and then you come out with this album now and it's even bigger but you don't you guys aren't cele lities I don't you're
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you're you're not doing it to you're not doing it to be cool I think it's just who you are but you're you're that gives
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you such a cool Factor like you guys this album is so [ __ ] great I mean I listen to it all weekend I'm not just saying that if I if I was just trying to be nice I'd go some really good stuff on
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there you know but uh um so anyway I I think that you're you're you guys are humble you know about it but the music's there man and I mean I played it for my
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wife and she she wasn't familiar and she was just you know knocked out so anyway that's all I got
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see you later thank you so much yeah see you later keep going okay ballerina radio okay you know the creativity to keep
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that in there we um some some of the phrasing kind of Peter gabriely we're stealing that from you right what the
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the doodo yeah wasn't that opport opportunity knock is that what you're doing like oh oh no no no no no no no
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don't say that oh no wait a minute oh there's a little earthquake oh no earthquake no no no no when I I decid to
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uncanceled W like you guys are such big influences on our childhood we that's why Saturday Night Live was so huge for us because our dad was a preacher and we couldn't watch movies or television or
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anything like that but he was obsessed with Saturday Night Live so every once oh that's crazy yeah that's weird he
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would be so we get to watch that stuff and I remember being a kid and watching you know chopping broccoli and all that
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stuff and all your movies the only he would sneak in were comedies so we did see you know that and trapped in
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Paradise obviously trap in Paradise is oh yeah and obviously we'll get to you later you guys are ridiculous you guys are blowing
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blowing my mind no one has mentioned trapped in Paradise really it's amazing oh trapped in Paradise that's every year Christmas that's like one of the Christmas movies that's in the as a pun
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story about it but you know I was doing my manager at the time in Mickey rock that was who Alvin was oh the combo yeah
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that's right yeah thank you for my best a sweater yeah best sweater you guys you
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guys pay attention it's like yeah because you also as a band and all the stuff you're doing I mean you love
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specifics when people say I love this part or this lyric I wrote down one that I really like this is from actual daydreaming your new album sounds like I could use a beating I'm warming to the
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feeling yeah there you go that's just such a great line yeah actually it's um I kind of wrote that those lyrics my wife had left town she was going to Fashion Week um oh like everyone's
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wife's dude she's a waitress it's a big season up there bottle service yeah trying to make
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her jealous of Life at home and so I I kind of like started talking about like uh home it's nice and warm relationships are forming things are getting fix I start saying all this stuff to kind of
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make her jealous but in the in the course I kind of wrap it up by saying I could use a beating because it's all it's all [ __ ]
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but well the whole is great into some of the parts with lyrics like you know there there's there's maybe your meaning
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there's how people are affected by them in the moment and then there's just sort of a feeling and the Power of Words is
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which people were asking me about and I said I just when I went to the lincol memorial and I saw the Gettysburg
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address and it was 100 feet high and it brought me to tears so I think the written word is
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so um Timeless really and great lyrics just stick with people you don't know how they're how they're uh digesting your songs at any given moment you know
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yeah that's awesome um for me A lot of times the meaning of the song I don't necessarily want to tell you because people take it and make it something so much greater and I'm like yeah this is
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about me going to Jack in the Box like oh well like Cho and broccoli she's a lady I know if I didn't know her she'd
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be the lady I didn't know my lady went down mysterious and she bought some broccoli and she brought it home and
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she's chopping broccoli I can't explain what I was thinking when there's a lot going on there in the 50s that would
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have been a huge hit very simple yeah I have a cat at home his name's Coco and like I give him all these nicknames and mocha choca latte all this stuff what
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he's gotten down to where I just call him mocha for some reason I walk in I sing choing mocha ah I have a quick question I drifted off
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when you said you wrote the Gettysburg address but when that was that was that was ab ab Lincoln or oh okay yeah uh um
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but I want you to walk me through a little bit of you guys have obviously done well and it does it the the
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question is something about like how long does it take to get ahead because you've been very successful but if
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you're a regular band and I always hear about these record contracts is it true that we don't have to say specific
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companies but is it a general uh rule that they have sort of they give you money but you sort of give it back and
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it's very hard to get ahead MoneyWise even if you do pretty well ye uh yes yeah I think it's probably similar in the comedy world that you make all of your money from playing shows basically
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but yeah they give you money up front and then you just have to recoup that on sales and so if you don't recoup it I don't know we we really don't even ask questions that's why we're all broke
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does it roll to the next one I heard I have a whole chart behind so were but that's what I heard and you if you lose
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it then you owe a little more the next time yeah well we before the B before we got a record deal we got a lawyer so we kind of oh smart we were ahead of that
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um but we also signed our record deal right before the new record deal policies came in nowadays you don't get anything they come take your merch they
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take touring your children they take everything with us it like but they do they do say like hey here's a million dollar record deal it's like all right that's what sounds good here's a million
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doll to go make your first record yeah you go where's all the money it's like oh you you're paying back those $2
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million that they gave you it's like they didn't give us any yeah you just basically just kind of kicked the can
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down the road a little bit but yeah I feel bad for young bands these days I don't I don't recommend it um being in a
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band unless you just want to have fun you know or if how to make money yeah is it possible in today's world to or is it
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more probable to go to Tik Tok or go to somewhere else and just try to do it on your own and just hope something happen
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yeah I mean record labs are trying to do that nobody knows what they're doing anymore they're trying to get Tick Tock
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Clips a 15-second song that you can slow down in Reverb and it takes off on Tik toks and gets like million views we before this album we signed with a new record label and like one of their
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things at the beginning was like we think you guys should be on Tik Tok like isn't a little late like Tik
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Tok we started at Tik Tok started awesome get a little them going and then like right before the music came out they're like oh yeah that you can't put your music on it we're like what do you
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mean oh no oh yeah they they're cutting down so like no Universal want us to like show us
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cooking at the house and [ __ ] like no music that's kind of our thing we can use other people music who are not
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signed Universal so we got a lot of other bands pretty famous oh my God you can lay in other
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stuff you know that happened because I'm on Tik Tok sadly and uh I was putting a song underneath and they took it out
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later right Heather they took some song out and I saw an old one of mine and they took it was some Joe Dirt thing and
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they took the song out from under it I was like so it's just dead silent I go what happened here but that must have
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been what happened as they go through and say no more even though I would think it would help I was at the God
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dang uh vene this weekend in Vegas and the sphere had Grateful Dead and the best advertisement for them is Tik Tok clips of people showing the the concert and it's like an ad and
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people go oh [ __ ] I even saw John Mayor had one I go oh that looks cool as [ __ ] I wouldn't have been aware of it I would
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have just skimmed over it but that helps I think you too said no filming inside and I thought God you should do
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it because people get curious and they want to go see it that's kind of a different subject everybody's breaking that rule i' SE a million videos from
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inside the sphere for YouTube but and maybe those are people in the Box you know nobody's filming the band they're
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like look at the fish above us whoa oh yeah that's right believe me I said it was a great show and if you're super
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bored worst case scenario watch the band I mean that's the truth is there's there's almost too much going on because
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it's so big above your head and then you look down and there's four microscopic people and I'm like is that them but
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you're used to just seeing that you know you're how many are in your band there's I I'm pretty sure there's nine no
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there's 15 um we cut four down to 12 no there's four like actual that sounds bad
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actual but like four members that start paid four that fit on the album cover that have the last name yes exactly and
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then two guys who are on stage with us did you ever think of calling it follow yes yeah it was called trust me
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when we first got the record deal it was a lot lot of follow Brothers followell uh just our names it was followell for a second when we said Kings of Leo they were like no that's
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not gonna work but it sounds good in hindsight though it's cooler B might be a good the way you guys looked maybe a Jug Band yeah the reason why I think we didn't go with
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that there's another band from Oklahoma of Brothers who went their last name of Hansen so it's kind of like bacon Brothers yeah that's the only one I'm
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aware of right now Hansen's still hitting it aren't they yeah I think so they're still mbing across the USA they
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better open with mbop and close with it and do it a couple times in the middle go
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ahead have either of you ever gotten the other one in a headlock right before right after the
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show probably brother stuff yeah we've had fights I don't know if it was right before a show nothing play y definitely after only angrily we've had F fights
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after shows before because I had brother I had a la my last fist fight with my brother Scott probably at 22 fullblown fist fight wow we we laid the arm arms
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down after that but that's the thing I'm curious about you know your cousin and the brothers out there together and I
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don't know it's a lot of together you guys must have a lot sympatico traits we don't fight at all anymore but we did for a while there were a few really big fun ones yeah we gave it up
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about six months back yeah it's not all the Partridge Family I'm sure I mean you're on a bus
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you're stuffed together you're in backstage and I've done it with PE with friends and you know you're just
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together all the time of course and your family so uh I'm sure it can lead to and
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also you pepper and fame money feeling important I'm not that's just you guys that's me that's anybody that goes through any sort of stuff like that you you definitely get a little different if
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you don't check yourself and it's just hard to keep everything cool because you know the greater good is to keep the
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band together and keep everyone happy and just we're lucky here let's just keep it going yeah and you're you're also kind of sharing a high that no one
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understands so even like after the tour when you get back home obviously I don't
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want to compare it to like what happens with military you know but like when you
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come home it's kind of like you look at your family and you're like you don't get it like it takes like a minute to go
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like oh yeah I take out the trash uh I'm the one that you know have to like put yourself back into reality reality well like I'm sure your family and your wives know about it but the illusion of Show
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Business your job is when you guys come out there you're having a blast you're fluffed and folded you're in tune and
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you're kicking ass and there's so much that goes into it that you know people would think I was on vacation I'd say
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well I'm playing Chicago you did you see the city did you go everywhere no I was in my hotel room resting prepping going
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over my act you know yeah so it's it's fine it's not a complaint but it is a show and you want people to think you
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just showed up and just kicked ass you know yeah yeah you get people who also think that you're on vacation too and so
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like they come like hey man you're playing Cincinnati I'm going to come to that show like you can definitely come
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but I promise you I'm going to be asleep by 10: I'm you got to save yourself for
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the next night or next 50 nights yeah totally especially with the amount of vodka we're drinking yeah the people get
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mad if you're not ready because I anywhere I go and they're like they're like okay first of all I know a great restaurant I'm like I'm gonna eat early
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and get to the show I can't like and I can't get all wasted and I can't do this they're like what a [ __ ] drag dude G
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to do a show and tell with my buddies friends they're not really friends played Anaheim we're gonna hit
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Disneyland at 10: a.m. exact B horn around 9: when do you go on man you run right it's about two hours out of town but you definitely have to check out this barbecue spot I'm like dude Splash
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Mountain Man we're gonna hit it 10 times when your you might go to the show soaking wet it's worth it you got to do
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it already but now what about you guys doing a Kings of Leon tequila cuz the you know the celebs are all we did a killer bourbon no you did it's
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a Ry well we did a bourbon and a Ry we did like a 18e bourbon five and NYE Ry they were real like small amount of them you didn't hear about it because it was super super small and they sold out
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really quick yeah unlike other people we did it for no money we did I'm good job
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I'm just joking we got good job uh church lady charday may be coming down the pike come on God I would drink that that's my kind of communion right
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there how did your dad take to that character because my people religious people I know and I have a very very
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Irish Catholic mother-in-law and Baptists they all loved it I was kind of surprised but you know it was a hit well
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see we didn't have television so SNL that we watched was like go to the video store and come back with the best of D oh this guy the best of that
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yeah but we would go on like a full Dana Carvey stretch and we would you know have all the things and then you go to
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the next one and have all the things so it was uh church lady was definitely a big part of that and you know I don't think there was any like sacriligious you know it wasn't what it
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was about I mean it really was about me noticing as a kid the the women behind the punch ball or sort of the backbone
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of the church it happened to be a Lutheran church but and our parents were not not super devout so sometimes we'd
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miss a couple Sundays and then we go you on our church pants and go and then um you felt a little bit of a judgment yeah wow wow wow here we are again where
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Johnny come Sundays we oddly enough we went to my grand our grandmother's funeral and it was like a lot of people that we kind of grew up with in the
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church preacher definitely uh he took his Liberties when he had the microphone was like can you believe there are
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people out there that think they can go and sing rock and roll music and make money and what and he just like ripped
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us and we're all sit like crying at our grandmother's funeral it's like oh it's us now I took my 50 out of the uh
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collection plate give me that Cracker yeah we fill that judgment so did you ever have to uh sing was there a choir yeah yeah that's where that's where we learned everything that we do
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yeah um started with uh drums my uh Nathan was the drummer in church until he' get tired and then I was the backup um and then like little singing
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opportunities would pop my like our mom and dad would just be like why don't you sing one and it was pretty obvious early
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on that you know we were going to little tiny churches throughout America and we were fairly talented so when we sang it
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was kind of like a I don't want to say showstopping moment but it definitely uh it was like one of
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those where everyone would be like okay this is these guys are pretty good they were tears yeah we would cry every time
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we had to same it's really amazing this is in the 80s and you're in you're in a car driving around you're kind of mostly
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homeschooled and your dad's a preacher and you go come in town you leave town I mean it's really an interesting I don't
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think I've ever heard of a you know a gigantic rock band with that that history how does that inform you guys I mean we're weirdos man like hon it made
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us but it's it's uh just the only thing I know you know I grew up doing that but
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also I mean I guess it makes us more uh capable of traveling a lot and and doing
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kind of what we do now and just living out of a suitcase um we also saw we also saw our dad work a room a different room oh different room different setting I
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mean we're from Memphis Tennessee so a lot of times the churches that we would be preaching at we'd be the only white
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family in the church like he would be working that room and then the next week we'd be in Oklahoma with like all these straight laced you know and then he'd be working that room and so like You' see
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kind of like sometimes you got to bring a little different juice to this thing and to that thing so now I feel like
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that's the one thing that I still kind of take from it and go like okay this is tonight we got to lean into the we're playing sex on fire tonight at least one
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time you know the crowd's not here for the for the uh bsides yeah yeah and I do think that oh sorry just the influence of that like Sam Kennon famously kind of fashioned
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himself his standup style after preachers and the thing I you know going over a lot of your music this weekend it's very it's a lot of it's just really emotional um not even sure why it's not
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it's not always a blues song but all of it has an emotional tilt to it and I don't know if that's just your talent or
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what it's affecting you know the core changes the minor changes the breaking it down the the the vocal Rhythm I don't know it's just emotional yeah musically
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um you know obviously you're always evolving you're always trying to learn something new and then show it off and
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sometimes you know your skill level isn't good enough to where you should be trying to show it off just yet you know you's got to work work on a little bit
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but as far as like the emotional undertone of everything I do think that also comes from us traveling our whole lives and from a very early age we
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realized that if we made a friend we were gonna have to say goodbye and probably never see him again because we
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were always on the move so you kind of start to have this like hardened thing which also made us our relationship our bond so strong because it's like we're the only people that we're going to know
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forever you know like we're not gonna have those high school friends that we can call up and be like hey let's go get
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a beer go so I think there's always that you know thing in the song that's you're
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not asking for love but you're just kind of like trying to be like hey I'm over here that kind of thing and I think the minimalism you know I the baselines and
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sometimes the guitar solo refrain the main Melody I mean I just always love that sound you know when the band's
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really playing just together I mean obviously nobody's going off on a flight of fancy it's one I mean you're a
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collective sound and uh it's very affecting thank you yeah we all learned to play together really I mean I I'd never played bass before the band and
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had a month to learn before we did the first EP Matt was decent you know Nathan played drums in church but wasn't necessarily a real drummer uh Caleb could always sing well um I bought my
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guitar the same day he bought his base and we had like we had gone to New York and met with the record label that we ended up signing with and they gave us a lead Zeppelin box set and full
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disclosure we hated it no I'm kidding we didn't even know Led Zeppelin at the time and this is wow like not that that long ago but it was all right well let's try to play like these guys we didn't
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realize they were so amazing but like me and Jared I had my guitar he had his bass and we're listening to Leed Zeppelin and that's how we're kind of coming up with stuff and you know obviously our skill level was not there
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but we just kind of along the way it's like whatever we learned it's like all right well let's make a song about this and then the next thing is like well
00:30:50
let's make one about this that's hysterical learning to Le zein not knowing so you weren't as good
00:30:56
as Jimmy pige or John bonam or almost almost it took us a few months to get there well to P to pass them up who musically when you're little kids it you must had AM radio driving around we
00:31:10
did in the 60s in my case uh who floated your boat I mean who who did you kind of
00:31:16
go I like that or you know must have been some exposure it would have to be like H music so a lot of 50s and yeah I
00:31:24
grew up on that kind of stuff my my uh uncle was was uh he was the teacher at this school that we went to for one year
00:31:32
and he would drive me to and from school and it was always the oldie station and
00:31:37
there be little games like I bet you a dollar they play The Rolling Stones before they play Tom Petty and so like
00:31:44
these little games before you know it you're building up like you know these influences I remember it was Tommy James and the Sha Dells first time Crimson and
00:31:55
Clover that I was like okay that moment I was like I want to play music see that that's making me nervous right now because when I was in junior high that song would come on for the
00:32:08
dance in the gym and I was a Wallflower extraordinaire Girl I liked and thinking
00:32:14
will I try to slow dance with her yeah then he told me what the song was about and I was like whoa so you what is it about yeah what's it about
00:32:28
[Music] um taking a girl's virginity in the grass excuse me allegedly that's what I
00:32:35
heard talk to Tommy I didn't write it but I heard it from a pervert over here yeah I'm gonna jump
00:32:41
off it did make me think like hey you can write songs about your own thing and not let people know what it's about and that was inspiring to me right it took
00:32:52
me this long to figure that one out I thought I didn't know what Day Tripper meant by The Beatles that it was really
00:32:59
it was a rich woman saying to the guy you can be my driver it was her voice it wasn't one of
00:33:06
the Beatles getting rich and going hey you drive my car well it wasn't drive my car was it a Day Tripper
00:33:13
oh drive my car yeah drive my car is it's it's secretly that but anyway there's so much you can do and rock and lyrics and stuff do you guys want to talk about some of your songs on your
00:33:24
album or what or kid harpoon we want to talk about Saturday Night Live we've been work I've been watching Spade in America all morning on YouTube
00:33:35
You're cramming trying to get some stuff yeah in case we're gonna quiz we can turn the tables the interviewer becomes interviewed we went pretty heavy on the
00:33:45
Dana Carvey stuff we got a lot of spade stuff no it's okay we got your movies we got them all locked
00:33:54
[Music] in when you did SNL was it fun to I guess first time were you 2008 maybe it says so who were there people there that
00:34:07
you knew or you weren't as familiar with so you kind of just get thrown into SNL when you're the music and do you get to
00:34:12
have any fun uh nerve City we I mean or at that point in our career it didn't matter what we were doing we were gonna have fun with it um and probably be a little bit irresponsible um but asnl
00:34:27
like I said say it meant so much to us uh when I was a kid all I wanted was to be on SNL never i' never imag be playing music but like it was like SNL that was
00:34:40
the thing yeah the first time we got the call it's like hey they want you on Saturday Night Live and we were just
00:34:47
like no what what was the song that they you led with was that you somebody or was it um well I think we did Sex on
00:34:53
Fire and use somebody and oh you did them both holy [ __ ] Same album I think Sex on Fire I think it was that one I messed up so bad in
00:35:04
dress that we almost had to stop playing but they just kept going I just remember
00:35:09
going backstage and I was like I swear to God that won't happen that's not gonna happen L was it nerves oh yeah and
00:35:16
I took a shot of tequila and Caleb looked at me he's like hey don't get too cocky and was like not I swear to God it
00:35:24
won't happen and then we played and it went over decently and then at the after party baby does it show a bump when you
00:35:31
do those does uh back then yeah 2008 I'm sure the bump is that like the lead like the picture of his that more CD bump in
00:35:42
your in your sales oh um I'm sure we we don't they they don't tell us that stuff
00:35:48
I mean to did you did you do a bump is that what you thinking that's what got me through at that point we first of all
00:35:55
we you know we had had four Al albums out that had all done decent you know big in the UK and Europe and then we'd come home and it wasn't like kind of doing the same thing here you're like
00:36:08
Hey we're back yeah exactly anything but Asing now that's we had had sex on fire used somebody so things were cooking with gas you know at that point
00:36:20
we didn't realize if it was like a big thing or we assumed every song was going to be that big after that and then nope
00:36:26
when we got invited back to SNL the next two times um I feel like we were like oh
00:36:33
yeah this is fine but then we realized like oh that was kind of special that first one yeah it could have been the last one have we met Lauren before the
00:36:41
first time yeah that I think that's probably how we got on because we had always wanted to be on there and then we
00:36:48
played a private party in St Bart and before Oh funny yeah before the show we were on a big boat and it was a party big art dealer something like that and
00:37:02
celebrities Galore all we wanted to talk to was Lauren we're like oh my of course
00:37:07
you're like then we all found ourselves on a rocket ship and uh it was a pretty major party so you you'll come on the
00:37:14
show whenever you want there'll be a rehearsal on Thursday let's see it was us and him and Penny Marshall she was on there oh yeah sounds about right just
00:37:25
remember Lauren like we were we were talking about I think we brought up Three Amigos or something we were
00:37:30
telling him that whole spiel about how like he was probably asked us about our childhood because he'd heard about it
00:37:35
we're like we couldn't watch stuff but our dad would sneak in videos every once in a while he pointed to like a little
00:37:42
cluster of lights on a rock somewhere and he was like yes me and Steve we wrote Three Amigos right there and
00:37:50
he I love we wrote my little buttercup in like uh like 30 minutes or something we were like we didn't even know he it we were just talking about like movies that he was involved with had no idea he
00:38:02
wrote it and then the best Laur ever he said yeah Steve is one of the funniest humans on the planet when Steve drinks vodka I think he is the funniest human on the planet right that's a great one
00:38:16
he did break it down Steve has if he goes to the third drink then then this this person comes
00:38:23
out just like like just really fogy he moves to number one out of 900 [Music] yes oh the 900 they know 900 you know all of our stuff good Lord I'm running
00:38:37
out of stick we're out of Tricks we talk about did you well let me ask if they saw the Beatles is that intriguing to
00:38:43
watch The Beatles put together those albums on Apple TV did you see Let It Be the documentary
00:38:50
yeah yeah yeah yeah this is so embarrassing but I never I didn't see it I mean I think you guys would love it I
00:38:56
know I would I've seen clips of it and it's mindblowing the the access that they have I think uh I mean as far as oh yeah it's just wall the wall and it's just sitting around this footage and you
00:39:07
go to see them come up with the song and not get it the way you hear it and they're like it's faster or slower or
00:39:13
they can't get a line and you're going oh my God it's I could tell you this is how you do it this is the best way but
00:39:20
then you see how it could be so many different ways and you see how any any band is sitting there and one person in the band could say I think this should be slower yeah remember when Revolution
00:39:31
came out slower you're gonna have a and you go that could have been the single totally Y and someone won that battle
00:39:38
and said no the faster you know that that must happen all the time but any interpretation of those songs probably would have been amazing and in they did
00:39:46
it fast or slow or you know different keys and whenever you start writing something like uh together it's always
00:39:55
like the you know the one little thing that someone does and you're like I don't know man I have my heart set on
00:40:01
this and you kind of go like all right let's compromise and we do that and then that ends up being the greatest
00:40:07
compromise or you end up going like see told you oh it's so tough it doesn't work that's the thing I mean with
00:40:14
comedians normally we're sitting around writing uh with your peers basically or David or whoever and then there's
00:40:20
usually an agreement when the idea comes up oh okay that's what we're doing and I just wonder when you guys finish let's
00:40:27
just takes that on fire because it's this you know this thing it's it's own ecosystem uh such a brilliant piece of
00:40:33
music and you you kind of get the rough draft or 99% finish you go back in the control Booth you're all in there right and you hear it for the first time or there's a sense did you get chills did
00:40:45
you just go okay this is was everyone going this is a great song or do you have disagreements no no no I didn't
00:40:52
even want it to go on the album I thought love it take back everything just said he voted for bside on that one yeah but it was kind of it was doing its
00:41:04
thing you know the song was com I had written some lyrics uh I said the Sex on Fire thing and a lot of times it's kind of just like a little throwaway um and you don't know it's
00:41:16
going to stick um but then we had gotten it to a point when it's like all right it it people were kind of enjoying it
00:41:23
and then Jared and Matt they found like a little drum Loop thing that when we put it with the song it was like okay now it makes sense it
00:41:34
lays at the bottom of the it's like kind of under the whole track and you can't really hear it but it just adds a a
00:41:41
Dancy thing to it and it's got this kind of droney Dancy thing that I mean people don't even really probably know that
00:41:48
it's on the song but so it's this this wash underneath gives it this urgency and also sort of this well it goes like
00:41:56
little adds beat to it before that it was kind of a little confused punk rock song
00:42:02
about sex that was kind of like I yeah but then when you put the dance to it it's like oh it's about sex and then it
00:42:10
made right and you can't really I don't know I mean I think CH you know Jean Simmons say you got to get an Anthem this is in the early days get an Anthem and and they they did party all day or
00:42:21
rock and roll all night whatever night party every day this sex is on fire just for whatever reason couldn't predict it
00:42:27
but it became sort of anthemy you know um yeah never you can't predict that stuff I mean we could we can go anywhere in the world I don't care which corner
00:42:41
of the world it is you start just that little guitar part banana everyone's like oh yeah I know this yeah and it actually made it on a list of like best guitar parts and I'm by far the worst
00:42:53
guitar player in the band and Matthew's like skilled and it's me going and I made the list like right under Jimmy pige and mat Jesus's like
00:43:05
what the hell like I told you I you're not even anything it was on my mom's list of favorite guitar parts yeah you know rudimentary stuff you can't what can you say sometimes it
00:43:18
just it just works so well sorry David go ahead I was just saying sometimes same thing happens in movies where you
00:43:23
like if they said to you guys write on this album in order the biggest hit on down you'd probably get it wrong every time because you just don't know and that's sort of the fun of it movies we
00:43:36
have scenes even that you mentioned Tommy Boy the scene where the deer comes out was the top rated scene Joe Dirt where I got chili dogs thrown at us was
00:43:47
the biggest laugh and then when the movie's out for 10 years you go those aren't the ones you hear about every
00:43:53
time it's throwaway jokes or something else or so you really can't figure it out yeah it's very hard to figure music
00:43:59
any of that stuff out totally and the worst thing you can ever do is think that you figured it out yeah that's what
00:44:06
I do to write the next one that's I mean I feel like there was about a at least five years maybe 10 where even though we didn't know that we were doing it we did
00:44:16
in the back of our mind have a little bit of a formula that we knew worked but when you try to recreate it
00:44:24
it's missing something from the formula and so it just sound you can't half ass that's what I was going to ask you about it says can we please have fun no question mark or anything and is that to
00:44:36
this idea of like you have all the success and how do you not get trapped up in trying to recreate it or be this
00:44:42
or that it seemed like to me this album is is really kind of new but it's it's still you know you guys but you you you want to get away from that idea right and I guess the producer helped you the
00:44:56
pressure of trying to repeat yourself and make a hit or you don't ever or you got away from it or you had
00:45:02
fun without uh dragging us to like a dark place um well I like that yeah um we I felt like we had we had gotten to a place where we were just we were doing
00:45:16
our thing but nothing was feeling that exciting amongst us we were just kind of like repeating ourselves a job yeah started feel like oh I can't wait to get
00:45:27
home like I'm normal normal for a band long time and then then uh a lot of real [ __ ] happened you know we lost our mom I had like a couple like just a lot of
00:45:40
like friendships that were kind you know people were passing away it was like a lot of just like heavy stuff and I ended
00:45:47
up going on a little bit of a personal Journey um and in the process I when I started to ride again I was like oh man this feels different you know it feels
00:45:59
like I had kind of like gotten to the next chapter and I was a kid again and like I
00:46:08
was writing whack sound like I could use a feels like I could use a beating whatever I was writing these lyrics that
00:46:14
I was just like oh it'd be so much easier to say something that's more palatable and people would be like oh yeah it's but it's like I want to say
00:46:22
something every now and then it makes you go like wait what you know it's kind of your your own Viewpoint um and
00:46:30
through the process I fell in love with writing songs again and it you know I feel like all of us just dove in and it it felt different because it felt like
00:46:41
something that we hadn't done in a long time and I think that you know surprising yourself also surprises The Listener and when things are a little like it's an on seit it doesn't quite
00:46:53
fit this is on stop the bleeding lightning strikes a pose and you're unfazed it's never going to take your place yeah you know what I mean it's doesn't it doesn't exactly rhyme there's
00:47:05
something just cool that final sentence of like it's just perfectly off yeah yeah I mean that's when we're writing songs I just hope that everyone can see
00:47:17
how perfectly off we are that's the name of your next album per perfectly off Kings of Leon all do you guys get mistaken for other bands what do people
00:47:29
think you are when you're out there they think we're the Dixie Chicks is that true
00:47:36
just Dixie Chicks aren't that anymore they're something else they're just the chicks no they're just a
00:47:48
[Music] CH okay real quickly cuz I have a question oh first one of the questions
00:47:53
are the MTV Awards do you still I don't know this do you still do a a video for every song anymore or is
00:47:59
that way gone you kind of do now they like the record labels will have you do things called visualizers which is just like a really cheap music video so you don't have to like there there's
00:48:11
definitely no like huge budget million dooll videos but they just want something to pass around there something
00:48:18
visual to get out there I like those on YouTube where you see Bubbles and you see the lyrics yeah yeah I just enjoy
00:48:25
that well we actually because we were so proud of the album that we made um and so unsure of how it's going to get out there these days with everything kind of being a mess uh we took it upon
00:48:38
ourselves to make music videos for all the songs so we kind of did them all like here in Nashville in the studio and
00:48:46
they're visualizers but there's more to them so we'll slowly start uh putting them out but I think I think we have
00:48:53
some like really uh great stuff that's to add for the music but also kind of make people like us a little more a he's using all your things what
00:49:08
he just say sorry I said uh let's go to a clip D the um the thrill for you guys since this album is out last week and then uh by the way for people are not
00:49:22
familiar you guys have always been uh huge in the UK and your album is already number one in the UK number one number two who's counting
00:49:33
so when you go out to hide Park it's gonna there's going to be some time for the album to matriculate out and then
00:49:40
you're going to do split screen or something and the crowd's going to go crazy I I assume for for comedians when
00:49:47
something new lands and works that's a really big high and that's GNA happen to you guys because that's how good these songs are yeah thanks something that we haven't anticipated in a while um just
00:50:02
like you can feel it like we can feel how how this album's being received and I keep telling the guys I'm like dude this is gonna be a singal along tour I can feel it I I have we're gonna start a
00:50:15
song and I'm not gonna have to finish it you know and if you can ever get that going for you that's it save your voice
00:50:23
it's different though because you guys get to it's fresh you know when you tell a joke they the people in the room
00:50:30
haven't heard it and so that eruption is just like got to be the best feeling because this they've heard it and they've kind of like you said they've
00:50:37
digested it and they know what's coming that's but they get excited when you start it that's got to be a fun feeling
00:50:43
when you start one they like and they all go ah well when I like a song I Fall In Love With a Song or something I I
00:50:48
want to hear it a lot you know and then in that environment with all the other fans it's so communal because the songs
00:50:56
are emotional and so you guys are going to kick in and then they're going to see these other
00:51:01
people love this song you know these strangers around them we're just gonna argue about who has the better job no
00:51:07
you concerts are still fun though for you guys and I but you know when we do jokes at work and it's new like you said
00:51:14
new song there it's really nothing more fun than still being able to crack a code to get something that works because
00:51:22
there's a million songs out there there's a million Comedians and jokes so if you can think of a new way to
00:51:27
basically do the same thing and it works it's it's it's a blast yeah I've got a lot of new new things that it depends on
00:51:35
the room they you know you H hatch them in a small room like I'm talking like 80 seats you know and they're like little
00:51:42
weird sketches and then you go out to 2,000 seats and it's different but there is no greater feeling and I have the
00:51:49
Good Fortune to have some things they want to hear I mean they're GNA want to hear church lady they're going to want
00:51:54
to hear chop broccoli going to want to hear from gu aans and fron so it's a good problem to have but then it's they're going to hear they want to hear from it what what does G have to catch
00:52:06
up I feel funny like when I used to climb the rope in gym class you put my lighter on my balls the first time I ever the first time I ever fell down
00:52:17
from laughing was Wayne's World 2 lrat first of all you got me you had me on the ropes with the like them teeny and toasty but then the
00:52:30
uppercut of tiny the tiny tidy whes I back in my chair fell onto my back I don't think I've ever laughed that hard up it was I knew when I got the prop you know and I was I was a grown man and
00:52:45
these little tiny underwear had shrunk in the dryer da I if you saw the movie I like so yeah uh you guys are making my
00:52:53
day geez this is my favorite podcast ever I want to go back before we Sorry before we get off this talking new songs and stuff like that when you something
00:53:03
that David that you do with your standup and I see other comedians kind of be able to pull it off you it's seems like you're telling the joke for the first
00:53:14
time because you're kind of like half of it you're telling but then you're kind of under your voice like kind of is this a yeah is this a
00:53:21
thought it's like the how you are able to do that multiple times and still be believable it's like oh he's just I'm his buddy he's telling me a funny anecdote you know right finally a good
00:53:36
question um well the thing about me that's great Danny you might want to tune out for I I
00:53:42
could talk about David's Brilliance all day long would you do it first no I just
00:53:48
uh I do like I appreciate that you like that sort of style um I I think it's just kind of the way it's always been but if someone doesn't know me and they get dragged along someone wrote me on
00:54:01
Instagram they're like it looked like you're not even trying like why do I have to look like I'm trying if it's
00:54:06
supposed to be funny like how hard do I have to sweat it's it's hard to do it this way also it's just supposed to look a different way you know what I mean it's hard to throw away jokes like
00:54:16
you're not thinking of them but you actually are thinking of them because you know they're I think about like if
00:54:21
we did that as a band if we went out and kind like ah we just kind of like act we're jamming yeah well listen Bill Murray was the combo he was funny and
00:54:34
then he's like do the lounge singer Star Wars nothing but star war and he's like
00:54:40
anyway I love you guys and everyone's like you're not even you're half singing he's half talking he doesn't give a [ __ ] that was one of my big influences guys
00:54:47
so but I appreciate Bob Dylan is pretty lowf up there these days no we uh we went on tour with Bob Dylan
00:54:58
oh [ __ ] he's good he's a fan of ours he opened up for us for a few months yeah
00:55:03
was nice he was closing the shows out for you but Dylan this was 10 years ago at least yeah it was a while but you know he's at his Bob Dylan thing now where it's like you have to hear the
00:55:16
line of the song to know which one it is yeah where are we be like Tangled Up In Blue it's like oh Tangled Up In Blue oh yeah we love this
00:55:27
one yeah yeah they should have the words on the screen I I love his stuff since time time over m whatever his recent stuff it's soon after midnight and I
00:55:37
have a date with the Fe Queen I he can still write lyrics like and his band would come to us and they'd like what which hotel are you guys staying in we' like I you know the Hiatt whatever and
00:55:49
they'd like ah we're so jealous Bob only stays at holiday ends on the ground level so he can open his window and smoke cigarettes so like every the whole
00:56:00
oh really they would be staying on the outskirts of town at a Holiday we would be like King of the castle like the
00:56:08
residential think about how many people saw him and they were like man that guy looked just like Bob Dylan but there's
00:56:13
no way yeah staying here that's a great David and I did I did Dylan once with David on update on SNL he did Tom Petty
00:56:26
yeah yeah but had a big top hat on it then we kind of tried to make them different it is a different sound but it
00:56:32
was a goofy update bit of course uh Dana before I let these guys go it says there
00:56:40
is a typo here it says Jared was a straight A student um we'll fix that um and um it's actually true who is who is the smartest um he's he's probably there
00:56:54
uh we're all smart and own ways but no Nate condescending yeah um and who's the who's the who's the latest it was me for a long time I'm better at that now okay I I found out
00:57:09
it's it's very annoying um and now I'm very punctual and I get livid when people are very late see
00:57:17
Dinn the pupil has become the teacher yeah I'll text him like a photo of the menu and I'm like I'm ordering for you
00:57:24
yeah I love me 603 hey being on time is an hour and a half late oh yeah okay that's my two heavy questions D wrap it up AI gonna write your next
00:57:38
album they already did oh oops whoops oops oops no I hope not man you hope they don't get good enough to where we're oh [ __ ] obsolete I doubt it no I think you'll always have a you'll
00:57:53
be able to have that little bit of a distance between reality and you'll go like oh it's missing that little thing
00:58:00
you know hopefully who knows if robots are less of nerds than we are then we should quit anyway yeah I know I wonder if Ro robots might be too nerdy yeah I saw Joe Rogan
00:58:11
clip this morning and it was Ai and it wasn't him talking with but it was with his voice and didn't say it and I'm like
00:58:18
we got about four months left before the whole thing collapses I mean was it funny kind weird or was it likeing deer
00:58:25
was no it was more state but it was believable was it a digital copy visually as well or just as yeah it
00:58:32
was him at the podcast talking about the Jake Paul Tyson fight oh and I'm like this sounds weird and it wasn't off his you know his Instagram so I'm like your
00:58:45
story your story about the teacher that on one of y'all's shows that that someone like yeah used his voice to say that he said some bad stuff
00:58:56
in trouble that oh that's another scary thingi me they took his voice put in Ai and said he said something racial and got him fired but what if like something resurfaces and you actually said it and
00:59:08
maybe we can blame it on now people can get out of it and say yeah that's I mean honestly almost nothing's believable
00:59:14
both ways yeah it could help because you might say that yeah unless they say Bob
00:59:20
Dylan was at a holiday in they go no that one's real he stayed on the first floor hey
00:59:26
would you like a would would you like a Chesterfield my problem is everyone believes it's me because I look exactly
00:59:32
the same like look at this OT he's at our hotel you look ex I do I look like Tom Petty look rude okay Paul mcartney called me
00:59:45
before the zoom and asked for backstage pass at hiy Park and I didn't know what to say to him no problem he's got it
00:59:53
you're kidding you know they call the Kings the the Kings of Leon and you know they're quite large in the UK people like them very much yeah and if I could
01:00:04
get a backstage pass it' be it'd be super duper but what if he runs into Rango give us Rango love they were like me Brothers me
01:00:15
Brothers peace and love love I love me Brothers how about you George well I was always John and Paul were the primary song writer say sorry what's Joe Biden
01:00:28
doing there why is he here K King's Le on this is they song sex sa Fire come on You Can't Believe It's Not Butter what sex on butter the
01:00:44
tremendous the tremendous the kings of their own right to the the B Donald Trump is a huge fan I talk to him too I'm just trying to make these guys
01:00:56
what if fall McCartney they give them tickets and they show up and it's Schwartz and going
01:01:01
dude dude I have a show at 430 no cruise by [ __ ] Spade we're playing The Forum in three months so we can kick schwarzen off the oh you're out here you guys on the list and schwartzon
01:01:16
we'll come to that and then on the Encore we do chop and broccoli you guys have a keyboard there yeah we got
01:01:22
keyboards I'm already got myself on stage amazing we can the theme song too we can yeah you guys play backups to Cho and broccoli
01:01:34
uh you're going on another Zoom next or you off I don't know yeah we're on they're not on some press chunk they're just doing some fun well I like this whole thing you guys look very
01:01:46
comfortable yeah they look cool yeah so anyway all right this is the corny part pleasure to meet you you guys are fantastic and uh have a great tour and
01:01:57
this is the awkward part where I press the red button says leave and it always feels weird no but I guess I'm going to
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press it it's a certain sadness to thank you guys we'll talk to you we'll see you at The Forum this has been a
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presentation of Odyssey please follow subscribe leave a like a review all the stuff smash that button whatever it is wherever you get your podcast fly in the walls executive produced by Dana Carvey
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and David Spade Jenna Weiss Burman of Odyssey Charlie finan of Brill Ste entertainment and Heather Santoro the
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show's lead producer is Greg Holzman