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Well, that was an LA version, so we kept
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it a little queefy for you. I know
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you're old and delicy.
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I'm going to look that up.
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>> I get that all the time. People say,
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"Kill yourself. You're no norm. You're
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the You're like Norm Light. You're norm.
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>> Did you kill yourself or you take any of
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that advice?"
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>> Nah, not yet. Later. But they're just
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going around the moon. They're not
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letting them on the moon, which I
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thought was messed up, but it might hurt
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the property value. And then I said, "Of
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course, they make the black guy do a
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driveby." And uh I'd say let him on the
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moon. I want to see that guy jump. Can
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you imagine that moon jump? Uh then I
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call it moon teams. So we had some good
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times.
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>> Dana Mark Norman, who is a very funny
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comic. Uh not on every single person's
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radar yet, but that's what we like to
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do.
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>> Get someone like you did with Shane. Get
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him a little early.
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>> And
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>> pre-stadium.
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>> Yeah, pre-stadiums.
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He's always consistently funny. Uh when
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I see him do quick sets or on Instagram
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or uh just talking to the dude, he's got
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a great sort of Norm McDonaldy vibe. Uh
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>> well, he talk about his love of Norm.
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>> Yeah,
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>> his love of standup. Uh and also he does
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a podcast called We Might Be Drunk with
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Sam Morell is another great comic. So,
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>> two of them are out there killing it and
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he was a lot of fun and just a lot of
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jokes, a lot of laughing and we really
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kind of dug deep with him too.
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>> Yeah. You talk about the uh because he
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really writes a lot of jokes per minute
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and a lot of punchlines per minute and
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the pressure to keep coming up with
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material.
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>> Yeah. Little shorties.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Three jokes every minute. You're right.
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And it's just hard to
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>> fill an hour on standup. Mhm.
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>> And then I think we talked about doing a
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special and how
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>> how much of that can you still use and
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you know how do you rotate all your
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stuff
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>> inside baseball or what it's like to be
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a touring standup comic.
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>> Um it was a pleasure to hang out with
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him. Ladies and gentlemen, enjoy.
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>> Mark Norman
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>> Norman.
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>> Mark Norman.
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>> Mark Norman is our guest. We start right
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away. Mark.
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>> All right, let's do it. We We're halfway
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through.
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>> All right. So,
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>> this isn't a We Might Be Drunk marathon
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where you're there for an hour five.
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>> Great.
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>> How long are your How long are your
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podcasts on We Might Be Drunk?
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>> Well, we drink a lot, so they can go
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from an hour to two and a half. It gets
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pretty sloppy.
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>> Do you really drink? When I was there,
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did you drink?
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>> Well, that was an LA version, so we kept
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it a little quefy for you. We know
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you're old and delicate, but
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>> queefy. I'm going to look that up. Wait,
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I know I'm old and what? Delicate. I
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don't want to hurt you.
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>> I was. Yeah. Yeah. You don't want to
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hurt me. Mark Norman, I was telling you
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such a riveting story. Like if you do a
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podcast, we might be drunk, which I've
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done and I actually like.
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>> I didn't know because I'm frail and
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brittle. Uh that you were delicately
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leading me through a 22-minute podcast
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for my own safety. But um I don't drink
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in the day anyway. That's problem. I
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barely drink at night.
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>> Why not?
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>> Cuz I'm a [ __ ] puss, dude. I used to
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be able to, but god dang,
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>> it is bad. It leads to horrible things.
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You end up skipping the night and just
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drinking and going to bars. So, day
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drinking is is evil. Don't do it.
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>> Yeah. Do you When you drink,
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>> do you I don't mean to cut I won't cut
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you. I'll cut you off 30 more times.
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>> Well, Zoom is tough.
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>> I know Zoom is tough. I appreciate that
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you had offered to come in when you were
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in town. That was very nice. And then I
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was trying to find you. I was in New
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York the other night and I saw on my
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stupid Instagram it's like Mark Norman
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is doing his high jinks at Gutbusters.
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I'm like why am I seeing this? And then
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I go oh he's in New York and then it
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scrolls down. He's also doing flim
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flams. He's also doing beep bops. And I
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go oh he's not going to have time to do
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anything. You're like the New York guy
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going boom boom boom right to set. Well,
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yeah. I gota I run around like a psycho
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because uh my jokes are short. So, I
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gotta I gotta write a lot just to fill
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an hour and it takes forever. So, I got
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to keep uh keep getting up and tweaking.
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>> I did notice that. Very good joke
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writer. Uh very funny. Uh I've always
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sort of watched from a distance. I
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finally got the nerve to approach you
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on Instagram. But, uh well, I always
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appreciate a good joke writer. So does
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Dana. So, when you're cramming in short
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ones, it is harder. I like to tell
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stories my act. I'm trying to get one
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story that's an hour long, ideally.
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>> Wow.
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>> I don't think I have one. I can make a
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story an hour and it's [ __ ] boring.
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But to get some tent full laughs in the
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middle is very hard.
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>> That That's called the moth. That's a
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whole different thing.
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>> Oh, the moth story from Norm.
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>> No.
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>> Norm takes an old joke and then he's
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like, "This is my joke." I'm like, "It's
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a joke." joke. It's like Johnny went to
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school. I'm like, are you sure this is
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your joke? Just elongate it with facts.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah. I used to drive a tractor. You
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know, one of those tractor things, you
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know, driving that tractor.
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>> That's good. You have a little norm. Do
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you hear that or not? You do hear that.
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>> I get that all the time. People say,
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"Kill yourself. You're no norm. You're
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the You're like Norm Light. You're
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norm."
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>> Did you kill yourself or you take any of
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that advice? Nah, not yet. Later. Not
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yet.
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>> For me, not for them.
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>> If there's a million comics, you're
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going to look like someone. You're gonna
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act like someone. That's just the way it
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is. I I get I get Dana at the [ __ ]
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>> car wash the other day. The guy goes,
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"Isn't that special?" And then he goes,
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"I'm sorry. I love Opportunity Knox. I
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love all your movies." And I go, "Thank
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you." I think Dana does the same thing.
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They think we're the
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>> I've aged out of our We used to got
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really compared a lot. Yeah.
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>> Joe.
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>> Yeah. Anyway, you know, we've
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interviewed people on this. You know, we
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we were we interviewed Shane when he was
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still in the clubs and he maybe had just
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put out the YouTube special and I was
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following your trajectory.
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>> So, based on the experience of this
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podcast, you'll be headlining Madison
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Square Garden in 11 months.
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>> Hey. All right. I'll take it. I just got
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to say some Asian slurs and I'm in.
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>> That's the trick. That's a shortcut.
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That's the thing is you go anywhere you
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want and it's never comes off.
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>> I mean I don't know you just it doesn't
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come off dark or weird or creepy. It
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just sort of you just flow by but you go
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wherever you want, right? As far as just
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topics and stuff.
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>> Yeah. Thanks. You know, you always hear
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these people like what what can you joke
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about? Can you where's the line? I think
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if it's got a punchline and a twist, you
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can joke about anything. And uh so I I
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go all in and yeah, I' I've been told
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I'm non-threatening. I'm quefyexual.
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>> That you're asexual. That's great. This
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is a great quality to have in a comic.
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You're you're unoffensive even though
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you're offensive.
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>> There you go. So I think people told me
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early like you're no one cares about
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you. You're kind of under the radar. So
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I said, "All right, well that's that's a
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detriment, but maybe I can use it to say
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horrible things."
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>> No. Well, you throw you throw it away
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and you make it a little innocent. You
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did that arm move some about you're
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almost sort of commenting on how dark it
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was. Well, you know,
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>> but it's all cheery. It's all cheery
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delivery.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. That's where my comedy comes
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from because I had to remind audiences,
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hey, comedy that we're doing. I don't
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actually comedy.
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>> Yeah. Oh, by golly. Well, I think you
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stumbled upon a really smart point. um
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is if Dana or I go to one of these gigs
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and say something too much, we we can
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step in [ __ ] quicker. But if you or
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Shane on the way up with Theo, you're
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just saying crazy things quietly in the
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clubs and then you build up an audience
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and they're all used to it. So it's all
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baked in. By the time other people hear
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about it, it's too late because you've
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already said all the stuff, everyone's
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accepted it and you're not like a
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corporate working for these different
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big places. So, no one's telling you no.
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And now that's just you. And that's a
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great way to do it because if I if I'm
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only on sitcoms and PG 13 movies and
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then out of the blue and I also do
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corporate gigs and I do commercials. So,
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if someone I say something, it jumps out
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more if that's if I'm making any sense.
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>> Sure. Sure.
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>> People go, "Whoa, what are you doing?"
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But you guys, I kind of get jealous of
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just like people go, "Hey, we we're
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already fans. We like this guy. Don't
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try to cancel this guy." Oh, hey,
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thanks. Yeah, and I think you get known
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for it. I mean, like Louie might be a
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bad example because he did get
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cancelled, but
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>> Louis kn not for his standup now and now
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he's back. He's got a Netflix special
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circle. Yeah.
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>> But I think if you come off like a
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Robert Shiml who's like, I'm the the
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bum, I'm the loser, I'm the the
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underdog.
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>> Shim a lot more because you set that
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table like this is who I am. I am the
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creep.
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>> Yeah,
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>> that's a great title for his next
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special. No, I I'll tell you this is
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this is a reverse compliment.
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>> Did you think a special called Out to
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Lunch would get any views,
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let alone 15 million? He got 15 million.
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What a funny title. Out to lunch.
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>> That's nuts.
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>> Thanks. Well, I got It was the pandemic.
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I put it out right as the pandemic hit.
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It was a complete failure because Comedy
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Central said no, Netflix said no, Amazon
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said no. So, I said screw it. Put it on
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YouTube. and it it hit because people
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needed content and uh you know it was
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free and all that. So I I guess the
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timing worked out but at the at the time
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I put it out I wanted to kill myself.
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>> But you shot it yourself with your own
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money and then tried to sell it to other
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people.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Did you shoot yourself with your own
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gun?
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>> No. You know um what about I think it's
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also you're kind of underplaying it
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because even though it was during co
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>> they have to find it. I see things on
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YouTube that are great and they have
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20,000 views and you go [ __ ] how does it
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get to the point where it gets passed
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around enough or in the algo enough
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where people start going now it's at a
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million like that's a big deal
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>> you can't you can't time to get 15 maybe
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one you can't not 15 captain go that
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high
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>> so something's working and then you play
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bigger places obviously over time you do
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clubs then you start doing some theaters
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and that's
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>> a little more pressure do you feel like
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>> it's harder or is it the exact same.
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>> Uh, well, I think well, just to go back
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to the special, I do think it got
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oversaturated that what I got it in
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there was still new. And if you watch,
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all these specials over time have gotten
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less and less views just because it's
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it's not what it used to be.
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>> I see.
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>> Um, so if I put one out now, I don't
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think it would it would hit as big. So,
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timing is a factor. But, yeah, it sold a
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ton of tickets for me. Started doing
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clubs, adding shows, and we moved to
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theaters. But then, here's the crazy
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part. You get the Netflix hour finally
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and it comes out, that was in 2023, and
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everybody goes, "Hey, let's go see this
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guy in a theater." And now you have no
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material. And now you're kind of eating
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[ __ ] in a theater. Uh where people go,
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"Hey, this guy got a special. He sucks."
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And I go, "I know, but I'm out of
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material."
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>> Yeah. I This is the age-old, we always
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talk about this, me and Dan. Like I'm
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from the school of don't throw it all
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away right away. I mean, you need some
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tentpole laughs. They're paying a lot of
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money. And as as with a band, they only
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want old material.
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>> Yes.
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>> And they don't want new songs. And we
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always talk about this. And then your
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stand up, you're going, I want to see
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people do jokes I like. I want to go to
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my friends, listen to this one. And I
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think specials get watered down over
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time. And maybe myself included. I won't
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take myself out just because to work and
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buff out an hour, as you know, as Dana
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knows, is so hard to get it working.
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>> Yes.
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>> And to just go, let me start from
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scratch.
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It's [ __ ] so hard to get things at
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work and you got to massage them and try
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them out and
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>> and then every time you're on stage,
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it's an audition. Dana knows that you go
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on, you don't want to bomb, you know,
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Shane's in the back or one of your
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friends walks in, you're like, "Fuck, I
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don't want to do my new shit." They're
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like, "God, he has nothing."
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>> Chappelle thought you were good, man.
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>> Oh, he was here. Oh, he watched you bomb
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miserably. But uh David Tell on this
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podcast just we watched his special and
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like people who write like you you're a
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writer and you're landing like four or
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five laughs a minute probably at least
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>> teach
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>> and I'll just go gaga for like five
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minutes. So I don't I'm in awe of that.
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And David, he did his special was like
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35 a standup and then he did some flute
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thing at the end
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>> because he said my god because it is
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like this bam bam bam and I don't know
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how you guys do it but it's uh seems
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like really difficult
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>> to to turn it you know
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>> it's a nightmare. It's a young man's
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game. It's so much tinkering getting
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every oh that word's not hitting. Let me
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shorten it off a few syllables. Let me
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change that term. But I think David Tell
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and I he's he's the goat in my opinion.
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But I think the we're scared of doing
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stories. We have such low self-esteem
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that I I don't feel like anyone will
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want to hang on to me with a story for
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>> a three minute story. Even three minutes
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are like everyone's like, "What the [ __ ]
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is going on?"
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>> I panic. So, I want to get that laugh.
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Yeah,
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>> I agree with you. That's very
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>> hard. And I like people that have
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patience up there and I see people that
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just,
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>> you know, even Nate goes slow. I like
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that. He I don't know when that started.
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Maybe it's always been that way, but
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they wait and his crowd is taught to
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wait.
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>> I know. I'm so jealous. And he's
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molasses, but it works. Like he just has
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that southern draw where you just get
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lulled to sleep like a big lazy boy.
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>> That's the name of his next special, Big
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Lazy Boy.
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>> My act is a big lazy boy.
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I'm kind of curious just being from the
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olden days uh how big standup has gotten
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how people go to theaters then stadiums
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or whatever and just trying to figure
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out besides the comedy like I think that
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Nate's audience really relates to him
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and of course he's brilliant at standup
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but I I got a sense the audience really
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likes you and is relating to you and
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also you're being funny and a lot of it
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you you'd mention your wife and things
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like that, but there's a vibe you're
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push pushing out. So, it's kind of
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interesting to watch why why someone
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blows up and another guy seems to have
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just as good or woman.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Uh jokes, but is not quite, you know,
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it's fascinating sort of art form. I'm
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going to call it that.
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>> Uhhuh. Well, hey, I think you just got
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to use what you got. Um I don't know
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what the hell to do. I'm just trying to
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get laughs and uh I don't want to have a
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message. Everybody's got a message or an
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agenda. And I think it's refreshing when
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I don't know if you saw this Chris
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Fleming guy. He just put out a special.
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>> Yeah. It's hilarious.
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>> The tights jumping around.
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>> Yeah. There's no like uh point or or
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agenda. It's just like, hey, I'm going
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to lay on the ground for four minutes
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and kick my legs up and it's it's silly
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and fun and I think we need that. I
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mean, you know, who knows what Iran's
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doing right now. So, uh let's
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>> I do
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>> let's have a chuckle.
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>> I couldn't agree more. But I never
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wanted to find be in that situation
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where you have a choir that has a
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certain point of view and then you're
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teaching. You're and you're getting
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roars of laughter because you're
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reinforcing political points of view. I
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like being just funny.
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>> Yeah.
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>> More than anything else is room for
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everybody. I don't take
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>> I think Mark is also is there that kind
00:15:43
of Chris Flleming
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when he comes around if the timing is
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right everyone's ready for it. like they
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just went through the kind of serious
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comic then the guy that has no audience
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and then there's all these tricks
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because as you know specials
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>> are put out almost every weekend. I mean
00:16:00
a big one like Amazon, Hulu, Netflix. So
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to stand out and YouTube
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I mean it's such a blur,
00:16:09
>> right?
00:16:09
>> It's I'm not saying it's pointless
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anymore. It's just hard because they if
00:16:13
my my my manager is always like got a
00:16:15
special ready I go I just released it.
00:16:17
He goes, "I'll make a deal right now."
00:16:19
You what? Do you hate money? Fay doesn't
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like money, everybody tells the office.
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I go, "No, I'm just saying I like the
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money. I don't want to do the work. Just
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give me the money."
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>> Jeez, Dave, you can just say Jew.
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Come on.
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>> But yeah, I know what you mean. They
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just want you to put stuff out and you
00:16:36
go, "Hey, I'm an artist, you you douche.
00:16:38
Leave me alone.
00:16:39
>> Don't rush Picasso."
00:16:41
>> Right.
00:16:42
>> So, I'm Picasso in that scenario. And uh
00:16:45
so I'm like I have to work on my booger
00:16:47
jokes. Come on. You can't rush these
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things.
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>> I know. I know. Leave me be. But they
00:16:51
want that they want that money. I'm so
00:16:53
jealous of these like like I don't know
00:16:54
if you know Ari Shafir. He's like I'm
00:16:56
going to go to Machu Picchu for nine
00:16:58
months and do Iaska and blow a pygmy.
00:17:02
And then his agent's like, "All right,
00:17:04
we'll see you." And it it works out. I
00:17:06
don't have the balls. I'm such a wuss
00:17:08
that my agent's like, "We got you $18 to
00:17:10
play for uh Rathon. you want to do it.
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I'm like, I'm in.
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>> You have to perform in front of the
00:17:17
bombs before they get dropped. And
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you're like, sure, whatever.
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>> I'm willing to look the other way.
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>> I'm scared of adults. I'm 42 years old,
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but I'm still like, "Oh, this this man
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is calling me with a tie on."
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>> I [ __ ] agree. My managers are more
00:17:32
like, "We want you to make money."
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Because it's so hard to keep the balls
00:17:36
in the air because Dana and I are both
00:17:39
over 40. And after 40 in anything in
00:17:42
showbiz, they're like,
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>> "What are you kidding? Dana looks like
00:17:46
>> Dana looks like a fresh daisy.
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>> I'm inside a ring light. You can't see
00:17:50
the ring light."
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>> He lives in a ring light.
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>> Literally in a bubble of light. If you
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sat in my light, Mark 19. You look 19.
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>> You look 1920. Yeah.
00:18:01
>> It's hard. You just want to keep working
00:18:03
and you look at people that blow up
00:18:06
quickly and you go, it's probably
00:18:08
harder. I I sort of got known over time
00:18:12
gradually and it was weird enough but
00:18:13
these people like the Jim Carrey thing
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where they get so famous like overnight
00:18:17
so [ __ ] huge and you go
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>> 15 years overnight you know
00:18:20
>> I mean yeah Jim he did have Living Color
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but to have
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>> Dumb and Dumber the Mask and you know
00:18:27
Ace Venture in a row you go how do you
00:18:29
that's another level
00:18:31
>> well yeah that's a whole explosion but
00:18:32
just because of uh for history's sake
00:18:34
when he showed up in LA I was around he
00:18:38
and he was at the improv and Jim was
00:18:40
just doing pure impressions like Rich
00:18:44
Little and he would act out on Golden
00:18:46
Palm with Henry Fonda and Katherine
00:18:48
Heeper with perfect voices, you know,
00:18:50
>> James Dean look
00:18:51
>> and then we know his whole evil.
00:18:53
>> I remember that he would
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>> well Bruce Stern and I mean he's his
00:18:58
talent level just pure raw talent is is
00:19:01
insane.
00:19:03
He was on like an old comedy store,
00:19:05
Young Comedians or something, maybe by
00:19:07
Dangerfield. And I was like, this
00:19:09
[ __ ] guy, every time he turns around,
00:19:11
he looks exactly like he was so
00:19:13
rubberfaced. Jim Carrey, very memorable.
00:19:16
And then you're right, Dana, he did
00:19:17
that, which I was already floored by
00:19:19
that.
00:19:20
>> Then in Living Color, but I think you're
00:19:22
famous. And when you do three hundred
00:19:24
million dollar movies in a row,
00:19:25
especially back then, that's about as
00:19:27
high as you can get as far as how do you
00:19:29
stay what I was saying is how do you
00:19:32
stay around for 20 30 years? And that's
00:19:34
you want to keep making money. You want
00:19:35
to stay somewhat relevant. It's just a
00:19:37
weird biz. So my guys are like
00:19:40
>> hopefully you can do this. Hopefully you
00:19:41
want to do this. But I'm in your same
00:19:43
spot. Do I want to take six months off?
00:19:45
I don't even know if I know what to do.
00:19:47
>> I know you feel worthless. Comedy is
00:19:49
really my only like selfworth. I have a
00:19:52
child and a and a wife, but I'm like ah
00:19:54
that's
00:19:55
>> second and third.
00:19:56
>> Yeah. Yeah. But do you guys worry about
00:19:59
uh that's the thing about fame or making
00:20:02
it. Once you make it, you're like, "Hey,
00:20:04
I made it. This is great. Now, how the
00:20:06
hell do I hold on to this?" Like I I
00:20:08
used to open for Jerry and uh he would
00:20:11
say like, "Thank God for comedians and
00:20:12
cars or I'd be irrelevant." I'm like,
00:20:14
"Dude, your show's on 11 times a day.
00:20:16
What are you talking about?"
00:20:17
>> 44 channels.
00:20:19
>> I know. Jerry Let him he went back out.
00:20:23
Sorry.
00:20:23
>> Yes, exactly. He's doing interviews.
00:20:26
>> Lauren Michaels, one of his quotes was
00:20:28
the minute you're hot, you can feel
00:20:31
yourself getting less hot
00:20:34
>> and and a career is like a pendulum.
00:20:36
You're hot and it swings and then you're
00:20:38
in the dark side of the moon and then
00:20:40
you come back. It just comes with a
00:20:41
turf. I'm just curious about do you
00:20:44
think Well, two things I want to know
00:20:46
about your process. Are you like Jim
00:20:48
Gaffigan or like Jerry Seinfeld has a
00:20:51
panic attack if that's possible because
00:20:53
he needs to get to his room and work on
00:20:55
his stuff an hour each day every day.
00:20:58
>> Yeah.
00:20:58
>> Jim Gaffen, brilliant. He he records
00:21:01
everything at the and then he goes in
00:21:03
and he listens to it. The kids are
00:21:04
sleeping and fixes. How meticulous are
00:21:07
you or is it just from reps on stage or
00:21:11
>> Oh, I'm a psycho. I mean, I got four
00:21:13
sets tonight in the city jumping around
00:21:15
from club to club and uh
00:21:17
>> same set.
00:21:18
>> Yeah, same set with new stuff filling in
00:21:21
and then I go, this line isn't working.
00:21:23
So, I'll kind of just dissect one line
00:21:25
and go, all right, the next set just
00:21:27
focus on that line
00:21:28
>> and that I just do that for months and
00:21:30
months and hopefully
00:21:32
>> it's it's gradual.
00:21:34
>> Bill Burr told me that he doesn't write
00:21:36
it down.
00:21:37
>> What is that?
00:21:38
>> He does it so much. Yeah,
00:21:41
>> but I guess that that's Yeah,
00:21:42
>> you know, I saw him the other night,
00:21:43
Dana. He went after me. I introduced
00:21:45
him. Of course, I blew it because
00:21:48
sometimes Mark, you ever noticed there's
00:21:49
an MC and sometimes there's not. So, I'm
00:21:51
at the store and I go, "Good night." And
00:21:53
no one comes out and I go,
00:21:54
>> "What am I doing?" They go, "Bring up
00:21:56
the next guy." I go, "Who's the next
00:21:58
guy? Is it Bill?" And then I go, I did
00:22:01
an encore because no one was back there.
00:22:02
And so I do And then I go, "Oh, am I
00:22:04
supposed to?" So I bring Anyway, Bill
00:22:06
comes up
00:22:07
>> and I'm in the back. So, I watched a
00:22:09
little bit and then I like type by text
00:22:11
like just lines I liked and then he hit
00:22:15
me on the way home. He's like, "Oh, you
00:22:17
like that?" "Yeah, I was just working on
00:22:18
that." And now that you tell me he
00:22:19
doesn't write it down.
00:22:21
>> I was like writing the wording when I
00:22:23
text it going, "This is great." Knowing
00:22:26
if I did it, I would be like, I have to
00:22:28
remember how I said that.
00:22:30
>> That was what made it work. The only
00:22:32
reason it works cuz you've done the bit
00:22:34
the next night and you go, I know what
00:22:35
that is. And you go, I've done it with
00:22:37
Heather here. And I'm like, can you
00:22:39
transcribe this because I hit it one
00:22:41
night and now it is just not working.
00:22:43
What did I say?
00:22:45
>> That said, that's another Jerryism. You
00:22:48
know, something stops working. You know,
00:22:51
check the setup.
00:22:53
>> Okay.
00:22:53
>> Is it clear?
00:22:54
>> I mean, he is a scientist. I was curious
00:22:56
because people were mentioning
00:23:00
that you had Norm vibes or was he kind
00:23:02
of one of your inspirations in a sense
00:23:05
or or who who
00:23:07
>> So yeah, because there is some ribbing
00:23:09
stuff. There's something in there is a
00:23:11
great thing to be influenced by.
00:23:13
>> So anyone else besides David
00:23:17
>> or is Norm your true nor true north
00:23:19
star?
00:23:20
>> Uh well Norm to me is the just the
00:23:23
funniest guy. Like his standup is great,
00:23:26
but he was funny everywhere. He's funny
00:23:27
on the couch. He was funny on a podcast.
00:23:29
He was funny in movies, which I liked.
00:23:32
Bill Burr has that too. Some guys are
00:23:34
just funny on stage, but then you put
00:23:36
them on a podcast and they're kind of
00:23:37
boring. You've you've done you've seen
00:23:40
these Norm
00:23:42
unique and you think when he was on
00:23:43
Conan and stuff, it's like he's he's
00:23:46
always smile was always smiling in such
00:23:48
an intense way. Yes. like his eyes are
00:23:51
really happy and he had these big
00:23:53
cheekbones and so it's a very potent.
00:23:56
It's like he's laughing the whole time
00:23:58
but not out loud because he knows where
00:24:01
he's going with it. But yeah, it's his
00:24:03
stuff. You see the YouTube clips of him
00:24:05
on Conan and it's like uh we haven't
00:24:08
seen anything quite like it. Uh, you
00:24:09
know, he's lucky as Conan because Conan
00:24:12
or Letterman, those guys invite a guy
00:24:16
like Norm because they want him to be
00:24:18
weird and a lot of people won't put up
00:24:20
with it. They just don't get it. So when
00:24:21
you go on the view and he's weird and
00:24:23
he's talking and they're like,
00:24:24
>> the best.
00:24:25
>> I'm like, why are they letting this guy
00:24:26
on the [ __ ] view? Do they know
00:24:28
anything? And then he does his thing and
00:24:30
they're like, huh?
00:24:31
>> Yeah, I like that Bill that Bill Clinton
00:24:33
guy, you know, he only problem he killed
00:24:36
a guy, right?
00:24:38
Didn't he rape that one girl? Everyone's
00:24:40
like, "Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa."
00:24:42
Barbara Walter's like, "Oh,
00:24:44
>> I thought it was a matter of public
00:24:45
record."
00:24:47
>> I I once had a two-hour phone
00:24:49
conversation with Norm driving around. I
00:24:51
was driving
00:24:52
>> and uh
00:24:54
>> he, you know, put down his comedy kind
00:24:58
of vibe, you know, and he had a lot of
00:25:00
frustrations with his career, you know,
00:25:02
>> really
00:25:02
>> a lot of lot of pilots didn't work out
00:25:04
and this guy and that and so forth and
00:25:06
so on, you know. So he's a little
00:25:08
frustrated, you know, cuz like he's so
00:25:11
charismatic and per he's like Norm
00:25:13
McDonald,
00:25:14
>> you know, probably wanted a few more
00:25:16
Norm movies or Norm TV shows, you know.
00:25:19
>> Dana, was there was there a pilot with
00:25:21
Love it and Norm for Happy Madison
00:25:24
>> because
00:25:26
we'll ask him because I think it was
00:25:27
about a mayor.
00:25:29
>> I do remember hearing this and
00:25:31
>> somebody pulled the plug on it, but I
00:25:33
think they wanted to do it. Something
00:25:34
weird happened. But that that's the hard
00:25:36
thing is like Norm is tough. He was
00:25:39
tough to book cuz he wouldn't sometimes
00:25:42
he wouldn't come or he would walk people
00:25:45
and you know as a manager we have the
00:25:47
same manager Gervitz of course he's norm
00:25:50
too he's like norm I don't know you
00:25:52
never know because one time he was I
00:25:54
told this story but we were on the road
00:25:55
with Sandler and
00:25:57
>> you know Mark I think Sam did I one with
00:26:00
us
00:26:01
>> you know he rotates some people in
00:26:03
>> just to make it more fun. So,
00:26:05
>> in the old days, Norman went on and then
00:26:08
and we're in Seattle or something and he
00:26:10
and he just walks everybody and then
00:26:13
well the ones that don't want to wait
00:26:15
for Sandler like I can't take this. It's
00:26:17
excruciating. And then when he gets off,
00:26:19
Schneider is MC and goes there's Nor
00:26:21
McDonald. You never know which Norm
00:26:23
you're going to get and tonight you got
00:26:25
that one.
00:26:27
>> And then Norm is on the group chat going
00:26:29
hey what the [ __ ] did Schneider just
00:26:30
say? Just so people understand,
00:26:33
>> it's so true though.
00:26:34
>> Just so people understand who are
00:26:36
listening, if you say the How did the
00:26:38
comedian do? Uh, he walked the audience.
00:26:43
>> That they Well, what do you mean? Well,
00:26:45
they left.
00:26:46
>> They got up and left the room. Oh, yeah.
00:26:50
>> And And uh
00:26:51
>> they stop laughing for a while. The
00:26:53
comedian does not change gears at all.
00:26:56
He keeps going and they finally go, "I
00:26:58
can't take it. I'm forfeiting this and
00:27:01
leaving voluntarily.
00:27:03
>> Well, he's
00:27:04
>> If I see one person go to the bathroom,
00:27:05
if you see someone go to the bathroom,
00:27:06
don't you go,
00:27:07
>> "Well, [ __ ] They're leaving."
00:27:09
>> Of course, I want to kill myself. It's
00:27:10
the worst feeling ever.
00:27:12
>> Exactly.
00:27:13
>> I don't have the He was so strong. He
00:27:15
was such a tough guy. He doesn't get his
00:27:16
due. I mean, the whole cancer thing, he
00:27:18
hid that for years. I mean, most people
00:27:20
would have used that. They would have
00:27:21
been like, "Here, I'm the victim. Let me
00:27:23
uh spin this into a a TED talk." you
00:27:26
know,
00:27:26
>> still a end of life tour.
00:27:30
>> Yes, exactly. He just kept it quiet like
00:27:32
the integrity that takes
00:27:34
>> just uh being very very personal at
00:27:36
least online. I just noticed how
00:27:39
>> so it's so monetizing if you really
00:27:42
share every disease or every negative
00:27:44
weird thing in your life. And um
00:27:47
>> oh, you got molested. Oh, aren't you
00:27:50
special? Yeah. Yeah. Move on. Could you
00:27:53
say could you say that but say well
00:27:55
isn't that special
00:27:58
>> and got molested
00:28:00
but Nor
00:28:01
>> No, Norm was just [ __ ] funny.
00:28:03
>> He had a good joke about cancer.
00:28:05
>> Remember that when he says what was it?
00:28:07
>> Everyone always says
00:28:10
>> this guy lost the battle with cancer. He
00:28:12
goes I think it was a tie.
00:28:15
>> I think cancer died with the guy.
00:28:17
>> Yeah.
00:28:18
>> Cancer's not standing there going
00:28:20
>> right. I something like that and I was
00:28:22
like, "God, that's a smart way to look
00:28:23
at it."
00:28:24
>> Yeah. His dad
00:28:25
>> saying the joke while he has it, by the
00:28:26
way.
00:28:27
>> He's like, "My dad, your dad's in a
00:28:28
better place." He's like, "He's on the
00:28:30
floor."
00:28:31
>> Right. Norm joke. But he was funny
00:28:33
everywhere. And he's what a comedian is
00:28:36
to me. So when the view is like, "Hey,
00:28:37
Norm, what are you doing?" I'm like,
00:28:38
"He's being Norm. He's the guy you
00:28:40
booked."
00:28:41
>> Yeah. That's the hard
00:28:42
>> he's just got a bigger grin on his face.
00:28:44
The manner they would get, he just has
00:28:46
this huge smile.
00:28:48
>> He's also his secret weapon. this
00:28:50
greatlooking guy. As a guy, I didn't
00:28:51
know. And all these women were like, "He
00:28:53
looks like Paul Newman." I'm like, "He
00:28:55
does."
00:28:56
>> I'm not usually studying guys, but now I
00:28:58
do. And uh he was really look maxing.
00:29:01
>> Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Nice. Way to
00:29:04
>> hit the youth.
00:29:05
>> Clav, dude. Clavicle.
00:29:09
>> So, um
00:29:10
>> Oh, are you guys working on AI with all
00:29:12
this?
00:29:13
>> Yeah, we're not here.
00:29:16
>> No. Uh what are we doing with AI? What
00:29:18
do you Oh, I had a question about the
00:29:20
moon. I heard you talking about the
00:29:21
moon.
00:29:21
>> Oh, I got [ __ ] for that one.
00:29:23
>> What did you say?
00:29:24
>> Really?
00:29:24
>> Let me hear it. Let me hear the joke.
00:29:26
>> I mean, I just went the I was riffing on
00:29:28
stage about the moon and uh somebody
00:29:30
brought it up in the crowd and I said,
00:29:32
"Well, they had a a first black
00:29:33
astronaut. This is so cool." But they're
00:29:35
just going around the moon. They're not
00:29:37
letting them on the moon, which I
00:29:38
thought was messed up, but it might hurt
00:29:40
the property value. And then I said, "Of
00:29:43
course they make the black guy do a
00:29:44
driveby." And uh I say, "Let him on the
00:29:47
moon. I want to see that guy jump. Can
00:29:49
you imagine that moon jump? Uh then I
00:29:51
call it moon team. So we had some good
00:29:54
times
00:29:56
>> and that you got grief for that. How
00:29:58
online people
00:29:59
>> Yeah. The black community was uh pushing
00:30:01
back and I said I'm just joking around.
00:30:03
I think it's great. He's on the moon.
00:30:04
I'm a comedian. I'm I'm just zinging and
00:30:06
zanging. I make fun of honks. I make fun
00:30:09
of Jews. You know
00:30:10
>> honks.
00:30:12
>> Now it's your turn.
00:30:13
>> I don't like it when you make fun of
00:30:14
honks. So I get it. Sorry.
00:30:18
>> You're like any joke where I don't say a
00:30:19
specific race, it's a honky.
00:30:22
>> So, just know they're taking the most
00:30:24
beating. Yeah. I saw the moon drive by.
00:30:28
I guess it was just a a slingshot
00:30:31
because I saw a funny meme where it goes
00:30:33
the moon's like this and you hear, "Hey,
00:30:35
you hear a rap song and then it goes
00:30:37
away." Like it's just someone driving by
00:30:39
and you go and the moon's like this.
00:30:40
Wait, it's been 20, 40 years, 50 years,
00:30:44
>> and they're just driving by and beeping
00:30:46
or something. I don't know.
00:30:47
>> That's funny.
00:30:49
>> Five years from now, those astronauts
00:30:51
are going to be at a cottail party and
00:30:53
the conversation will be like, "No,
00:30:54
seriously, dude. You did you didn't land
00:30:57
on the moon,
00:30:58
>> right? I got close."
00:31:00
>> The big question is, does that get you
00:31:01
any [ __ ] And I know everyone's
00:31:03
thinking this, but going to the moon,
00:31:05
yes. driving by. Is it a shoulder
00:31:07
shrugger or do people go, "Hey, you
00:31:10
know, that's cool. That's It's like the
00:31:12
girls that went up in space and they go,
00:31:14
"No, no, no. It's not. No, we went
00:31:15
farther." And they're like, "Right, all
00:31:17
you guys went up and came down."
00:31:18
>> Yeah.
00:31:19
>> Like, quit quit putting us with the
00:31:21
origin.
00:31:23
>> They're like, "You, Katy Perry, you guys
00:31:25
all were they on your flight?" He's
00:31:26
like, "No, these are two different
00:31:28
things."
00:31:29
>> Yeah. Why did Katy Perry need to go to
00:31:30
space? I mean, uh, we tried to send
00:31:33
Lizo. We didn't have the fuel, but um
00:31:36
>> Don't put your hand in your chin.
00:31:38
That was funny. We didn't have the fuel.
00:31:41
Anyway,
00:31:41
>> Brian Rean do a whole album I walked on
00:31:44
the moon or something.
00:31:45
>> Anyway, that's funny.
00:31:47
>> Yeah. No, it's all fun. It's all fodder.
00:31:49
That's what's great about the news. It's
00:31:50
all you can do 18 gay Ayatollah jokes.
00:31:53
It It never ends.
00:31:54
>> Well, a a comedian
00:31:57
can't be offended. We we're incapable of
00:31:59
being offended, I think, because we we
00:32:02
know it's a joke. We've heard
00:32:03
everything. We understand it. When
00:32:05
comedians are off camera or hanging out
00:32:08
trying to top each other with the most
00:32:10
foul, politically incorrect thing you
00:32:12
can say,
00:32:13
>> that's, you know, so we're we can't
00:32:15
>> it leaks out. Dana is right. It leaks
00:32:16
out. But like if I said something you
00:32:18
guys and you guys laughed, like if we
00:32:21
were at lunch and I go, "Oh." And then I
00:32:23
say it my act and everyone goes, "What
00:32:25
the fuck?" And then you go,
00:32:26
>> "Right,
00:32:26
>> oh, those guys. I just This was funny a
00:32:29
minute ago." And then they go, "No,
00:32:30
that's with your filthy comedian
00:32:33
friends." I'm like, "Oh, yeah. I guess
00:32:34
so."
00:32:35
>> Right.
00:32:35
>> I do. Do Do you Do you have bits you do
00:32:38
only for other comedians that are so
00:32:40
foul you don't have to repeat, but I
00:32:42
used to do Bert Lancaster and Kirk
00:32:44
Douglas having sex?
00:32:46
>> And that was the writer room at SNL
00:32:48
would say, "Can you come in here and do
00:32:50
that for us again?" just have kind of 2
00:32:52
a.m.
00:32:54
>> I want you.
00:32:56
>> Patrice said it years ago. He said, "Any
00:32:58
any man who tells me something is
00:33:00
inappropriate to talk about, I
00:33:02
immediately have lost respect for." And
00:33:05
uh I find it weird that some comedians
00:33:08
don't like, you know, whatever
00:33:10
problematic humor, but I'm like, it's
00:33:12
just us. Like my text thread, if you saw
00:33:14
my text thread with a couple comics, I
00:33:16
would go right to the goolog.
00:33:18
>> Go to prison. Yeah.
00:33:19
>> Oh, yeah. Because uh part of being funny
00:33:22
or what's funny is saying the thing you
00:33:24
just can't possibly say.
00:33:26
>> Yeah.
00:33:27
>> Don't No one should ever say that. So of
00:33:29
course a comedian wants to say it, but
00:33:32
you know
00:33:33
>> well you want to outdo the other
00:33:34
comedian. You want to be like I this is
00:33:36
isn't this horrible what I just thought.
00:33:38
>> Yeah. We're messing around. We're not
00:33:40
doing the things. You know we're not
00:33:41
doing the things.
00:33:43
>> It's never like against you. If there
00:33:45
was any hate under it, it would be
00:33:47
different. You go. I'm just saying
00:33:48
stupid [ __ ] to try to be funny.
00:33:51
>> I made a pedophile joke, but Bill
00:33:53
Clinton is is reminiscing over old
00:33:55
photos. He's having a great time. So,
00:33:56
like, let's get more mad at Bill.
00:33:58
>> It was funny that he was he was [ __ ]
00:34:01
gaggling looking like at his memories on
00:34:03
his iPhone.
00:34:04
>> Yeah.
00:34:04
>> He's like, "Oh, these were the days."
00:34:07
>> Yeah, I remember that day.
00:34:08
>> No, the picture of him. Was it the hot
00:34:10
tub or the swimming pool? And
00:34:12
>> oh, that was
00:34:13
>> I heard him I heard him leafing through
00:34:15
the photo book. I was only in there for
00:34:17
about 5 minutes. I just swam around a
00:34:20
little bit and nothing happened. I mean,
00:34:22
>> I farted. We were laughing at the
00:34:23
bubbles
00:34:24
>> just at some point. Can we Yeah. Will it
00:34:27
ever end? I mean, Hillary is just like,
00:34:29
>> "Dude, I like when they talk about the
00:34:31
Epstein files and I look and they go and
00:34:33
about every day on Instagram, someone's
00:34:35
reading another email that's so horrible
00:34:37
and I go, "Where's that guy?" Like I
00:34:41
don't know if it's like illegal writing
00:34:42
an email or that there's something where
00:34:45
you go
00:34:46
>> this guy something was going on the [ __ ]
00:34:48
they say and then
00:34:50
>> you never hear like did they did he get
00:34:53
scolded maybe a slap on the wrist
00:34:55
anything? No.
00:34:56
>> No. And and you got to hand it to
00:34:58
Hillary because uh Bill Gates's wife
00:35:00
left toot sweet. She was like you're
00:35:01
involved in this guy. I'm out of here.
00:35:03
Hillary's like hold my beer. I mean I'll
00:35:05
tell you about Monica. I'll tell you
00:35:06
about everything. Bill Gates wife was
00:35:09
like, "I'm gonna take 80 billion and get
00:35:12
the hell out of Dodge."
00:35:13
>> She goes, "I'm the bravest woman you've
00:35:15
ever seen. Me, my backpack, and 70
00:35:19
billion."
00:35:20
>> Yeah.
00:35:21
>> On my own.
00:35:22
>> I think all the richest women in
00:35:23
America, it's all divorce.
00:35:26
>> Uh, what was their name? Basos's ex.
00:35:29
>> Look at your jar glass. Jesus Christ.
00:35:32
See that?
00:35:32
>> I don't want to keep refilling, so I
00:35:33
just get a giant. Is it the um the
00:35:35
bullet? Oh, it's the upside down bullet.
00:35:38
>> Yeah, biggest cup I have.
00:35:41
>> What a good eye, Spade. Good eye. Is
00:35:43
that a Q card on your door?
00:35:45
>> Oh, yeah. That's an old Conan. I have
00:35:46
all those. Uh, look, look at this wall I
00:35:49
got here. I'll walk you around.
00:35:50
>> Look, the wall of fame. Look at this
00:35:52
[ __ ]
00:35:52
>> Look at this. Norm. That's a Norm.
00:35:55
>> Oh, is that Bert Reynolds?
00:35:58
>> What is that when you did Bert Reynolds?
00:36:00
>> Yes. Yes. And then with Carlin.
00:36:03
>> Oh, you just saw Carlin. Wow.
00:36:06
George.
00:36:07
>> I met him at a book signing. Nice Joan
00:36:09
Rivers there.
00:36:10
>> You ever seen Blue Foot?
00:36:11
>> Joan Rivers.
00:36:13
>> Blue.
00:36:15
>> Liz Taylor, can we talk dog? Everybody
00:36:18
needs set the bullet.
00:36:21
>> Is that your set, Liz?
00:36:22
>> Yeah. Nerd.
00:36:24
>> Oh, you missed it.
00:36:26
>> I saw Gabe porn in the middle there.
00:36:29
>> That's a bunch of
00:36:33
>> Oh, that's so funny. functioning
00:36:34
alcoholic
00:36:35
>> big nerd.
00:36:36
>> I used to say I used to say this no this
00:36:38
Mark I go my friend goes
00:36:40
>> who's that
00:36:41
>> Fallon
00:36:42
>> is that Fallon coming in. Hey soon
00:36:45
>> hey be insane Jimmy
00:36:50
>> love how many fallons do we got?
00:36:53
>> Four.
00:36:55
>> Okay I have a legitimate question. You
00:36:57
have gone broen how many times?
00:37:00
Well, we have a thing called Protect Our
00:37:01
Parks where we go on and just get drunk
00:37:03
with Shane and Ari and uh just joke
00:37:07
around for four hours. So, I think we've
00:37:09
done 11 of those or 12.
00:37:11
>> [ __ ] hilarious. That's a great idea.
00:37:13
Uh all the great
00:37:13
>> Who's in that gang? You, Shane, who
00:37:15
else?
00:37:16
>> Ari Shafir and and Joe. And it's just it
00:37:18
we we used to listen to Open Anthony and
00:37:20
all these other crazy radio shows and
00:37:22
those have kind of gone away. So he
00:37:24
said, "Let's just dick around, be
00:37:26
idiots, say horrible things, get drunk,
00:37:28
do mushrooms, smoke cigars, and just be
00:37:31
a bunch of dudes."
00:37:32
>> That should be the number one rated
00:37:33
show. It probably is, actually. Uh
00:37:36
>> do mushrooms.
00:37:37
>> When you go,
00:37:38
>> does Joe move the needle? Do you plug
00:37:40
gigs or is it That's got to be at least
00:37:42
some push for something. It's the
00:37:44
biggest
00:37:45
>> that sells crazy tickets. And we're
00:37:47
we're just literally making fun of each
00:37:50
other. gay jokes, fat jokes, and
00:37:53
mushrooms. And
00:37:54
>> yeah,
00:37:54
>> you know, one Ari puked on one, Joe
00:37:57
whipped it out on one. Uh, you know,
00:38:00
>> I I had a meltdown on mushrooms and
00:38:02
puked all over the mother ship. So,
00:38:04
yeah, it's it's a wild
00:38:06
>> way from I Love Lucy.
00:38:09
>> What?
00:38:09
>> It's a long way since I Love Lucy was
00:38:12
that was entertainment.
00:38:13
>> So, I understand you take
00:38:15
hallucinogenics, you vomit, and expose
00:38:17
yourselves to each other. Sounds like a
00:38:18
great time, Ed. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:38:21
>> Ed, can I see your I haven't seen your
00:38:23
dick recently.
00:38:28
>> So, when you're 8, 10 years old, are you
00:38:31
uh one of those young people is like
00:38:34
seeing comics on television or whatever
00:38:36
and thinking maybe or did it come to you
00:38:39
later? When did it hit you? Maybe I'm
00:38:41
going to do this.
00:38:42
>> Well, I got no self-worth. So, I was
00:38:44
obsessed with comedy. I was obsessed
00:38:46
with Groucho and Bill Murray and uh
00:38:52
>> and then I never thought I could do
00:38:54
this. It was like you'd see Steve Martin
00:38:56
on TV, you'd see Bill Cosby and you're
00:38:58
like, "That's like an astronaut. I can
00:38:59
never get there."
00:39:00
>> Of course. Of course.
00:39:02
>> Agreed.
00:39:03
>> Failed out of college three times, three
00:39:05
different colleges. And I had such
00:39:08
little going on that I said, "Screw it.
00:39:09
I'll try an open mic." And I immediately
00:39:11
fell in love with it. And uh I moved to
00:39:14
New York and the rest is history. Got
00:39:15
mugged three times. Got bed bugs. That
00:39:18
city tries to spit you out. But uh
00:39:21
>> then the bed bugs mugged me. Jesus.
00:39:23
>> Yeah.
00:39:23
>> Where did you Was it after doing a club
00:39:25
date like in 1:00 a.m. or something? I
00:39:28
mean I lived there eight years. I never
00:39:30
got mugged.
00:39:31
>> Really?
00:39:33
>> Mugged? You're saying someone's going to
00:39:34
beat you up and take your money? What?
00:39:36
What's What was it exactly?
00:39:37
>> What is a mugging?
00:39:38
>> Well, three time. But again, I lived out
00:39:40
in Brooklyn, like way out, and I was
00:39:42
also an alcoholic. So, I was in a
00:39:44
blackout. Most
00:39:46
>> two of the three times I got mugged, I
00:39:48
was blacked out, drunk, sleeping on the
00:39:50
street.
00:39:52
>> So,
00:39:53
now I understand. Thanks for the
00:39:55
clarification.
00:39:56
>> Would they pull a knife on you or do
00:39:57
they just beat you up and say, "Give us
00:39:58
your shit?"
00:39:59
>> If you're blacked out, they just
00:40:01
>> It was bad. I was like Tiger Woods
00:40:03
without the car. I was just stumbling
00:40:05
down the street. But I just uh one time
00:40:07
I fell asleep on the subway and I woke
00:40:09
up and a guy had cut my pockets with an
00:40:11
X-acto knife. Um
00:40:14
>> Geez.
00:40:14
>> So that was that was pretty harmless. He
00:40:16
got my keys, my wallet, my jokebook. It
00:40:18
was crazy. My phone
00:40:20
>> one time.
00:40:21
>> What if he's doing your act?
00:40:23
>> Yeah, that's I was going to say.
00:40:25
>> I know he Yeah.
00:40:27
>> I can't believe Jake Johansson would do
00:40:30
that to you.
00:40:31
>> Wait, what's your What was the third
00:40:33
time? You said one time something.
00:40:34
>> Well, one time I fell asleep. I was
00:40:36
drunk at a bar called Rudies and I walk
00:40:37
home or I'm I'm walking down 8th Avenue
00:40:40
in Hell's Kitchen and I see a little al
00:40:42
cove like a doorway three steps down and
00:40:44
I said, "Let me just take a nap there
00:40:46
for like half an hour and then I'll go
00:40:49
home." Because I lived way out in
00:40:50
Brooklyn. It was a long ride.
00:40:52
>> So I fell asleep in this little el cove
00:40:53
and I woke up to three guys going
00:40:55
through my [ __ ] So I tried TO BE LIKE,
00:40:57
"AH, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?" AND THEN ONE
00:40:59
of them goes, "He's waking up." And he
00:41:00
hit me and I went out again. Took
00:41:01
everything.
00:41:02
>> [ __ ] a. And then one, the craziest is
00:41:05
the third time fell asleep on the train.
00:41:08
Woke up way past my stop and I said,
00:41:10
"Screw it. It's a nice night. I'll walk
00:41:12
it back to my apartment."
00:41:14
>> Deep Brooklyn. I see five guys on the
00:41:16
corner shooting dice, drinking 40s,
00:41:18
listening to music out of a out of a
00:41:20
central casting.
00:41:21
>> This is like a movie. You walk up like
00:41:23
Steve Martin. Hey, black guys. What's
00:41:26
happening?
00:41:26
>> Hey Jive, brother.
00:41:29
Um, and I see them and I cross the
00:41:32
street. street. I'm like, I'm going to
00:41:33
walk on the other side of the street.
00:41:34
They look pretty shady.
00:41:35
>> And an older guy comes up to me and I
00:41:38
had an iPod at the time. And he goes,
00:41:40
"Give me that radio." And I was so
00:41:42
drunk. I was like, "It's not a radio.
00:41:44
It's an MP3 player." And he goes, "All
00:41:46
right." He yanks it. So I'm yank. We're
00:41:47
both yanking the cord. He picks me up,
00:41:50
starts slamming me against the uh
00:41:52
business with the the metal gate that
00:41:54
closes.
00:41:54
>> Oh, yeah.
00:41:55
>> And I'm freaking out. And before I know
00:41:57
it, those five guys run over and beat
00:41:59
the hell out of them.
00:42:00
>> Oh, really? They did.
00:42:02
>> You can't judge.
00:42:03
>> Saviors, don't judge.
00:42:05
>> Yeah. And I grabbed my iPod. I said,
00:42:07
"Thank you." And I ran home.
00:42:09
>> Wow. What is your height and weight? I
00:42:11
mean, you look pretty big on stage. I
00:42:13
mean, for someone to just pick you up,
00:42:15
they must be pretty pretty.
00:42:17
>> You're skinny, though.
00:42:18
>> I'm skinny. I'm 5'10. I'm I'm not that
00:42:20
big. I'm a thin guy.
00:42:21
>> You know what's a good noise? When they
00:42:23
hit you against that steel, it goes,
00:42:26
>> "Yeah, it's thunderous." Um, I think uh
00:42:28
I talked to a cop later and he said
00:42:30
those were drug dealers and they can't
00:42:32
have a white kid getting killed in the
00:42:34
neighborhood. That's bad for business.
00:42:35
>> Oh, really?
00:42:36
>> They picked him.
00:42:38
>> Oh, I love it. They don't want any
00:42:39
trouble in there. Oh, I love they don't
00:42:41
want
00:42:42
>> I did have one experience a little bit
00:42:44
like that in New York and I was, you
00:42:45
know, up against a great and this guy
00:42:47
was grabbing me and like that and I
00:42:49
said, "Lorn, please."
00:42:51
>> So, it was Lauren Michael.
00:42:52
>> Lauren, I'll do church lady.
00:42:56
Um, you're really not. You're you're he
00:42:59
Lauren's nickname for me was he's a
00:43:01
[ __ ] show pony cuz I'd be out there.
00:43:05
>> Guilt see how it's charged, sir.
00:43:08
>> It works.
00:43:10
>> Hey, your special that the What was the
00:43:12
special called where you did the every
00:43:14
time a guy changes chords, he makes a
00:43:16
different face. The Ross Perau.
00:43:19
>> Yeah. I don't know.
00:43:21
>> What was that title? Come on. Well, I
00:43:23
did the first one was
00:43:25
>> Comedy Central
00:43:26
>> Critics's Choice
00:43:29
>> and this was before online stuff. So, my
00:43:31
sister every time it would come on she
00:43:35
got Critics's Choice again. She thought
00:43:36
it was an award that I got. And then
00:43:38
there was one, it was a ridiculous
00:43:40
title, Squatting Monkeys Tell No Lies.
00:43:43
>> Uhhuh.
00:43:43
>> And then the most recent one, I don't
00:43:46
know why I named it this, it was stupid,
00:43:47
but straight white male 60.
00:43:51
That's cuz no industry wants that.
00:43:53
>> Put those three together and then we
00:43:55
would have the one-third the amount of
00:43:58
jokes you landed in None Too Pleased.
00:44:01
>> That special that special was huge for
00:44:03
me.
00:44:04
>> Absolut. Well, that's good. I I you
00:44:06
know, there's people there's 15 year
00:44:08
olds, men and women watching or boys and
00:44:10
girls watching your special right now.
00:44:12
>> Yeah.
00:44:13
>> Going I I might want to do that. It
00:44:16
still is a fever dream just that this is
00:44:18
your job.
00:44:19
>> Yeah. This is what you're doing. Your
00:44:20
dreams came true. You're making good
00:44:22
money. I looked at your, you know,
00:44:24
you're making good money.
00:44:25
>> Your bank account,
00:44:28
this is your job.
00:44:29
>> Well, it's all about the next thing, the
00:44:31
next special. I remember the first time
00:44:33
I made a million dollars
00:44:35
>> and with all the agents and managers and
00:44:38
they're like, "Okay, you made a million.
00:44:39
Now, let's go on to these tour." I go,
00:44:41
"Wait a minute. Can we just take a
00:44:43
second to say I made a [ __ ] million
00:44:46
dollars?" So, if you talk to your
00:44:48
younger self, you know, your 23-year-old
00:44:51
self, you know,
00:44:52
>> you'd be like, "It's going to be okay,
00:44:54
man."
00:44:55
>> All right. Thank you. It feels like
00:44:56
being a mailman where you you put the
00:44:58
mail out, then you show up the next day
00:44:59
and they're like, "We got a lot more
00:45:00
mail."
00:45:01
>> Like, God, it never ends.
00:45:03
>> You never It's like Groundhog's Day.
00:45:04
Yeah. You just go, "I didn't did I get
00:45:06
anything done today." And you feel like
00:45:08
you're always feel like you're getting
00:45:09
too old. I used Of course, every day.
00:45:12
When I was 30, I'm like, I didn't even
00:45:13
do enough when I was by 30. I want to do
00:45:15
more and more and more and everything
00:45:17
takes so much time and every agent says
00:45:20
it's pretty slow right now. They're not
00:45:22
doing much.
00:45:23
>> Our job is part of our job is when
00:45:25
people see you on a screen or something,
00:45:28
it kind of looks like you're not really
00:45:30
working,
00:45:31
>> right?
00:45:31
>> And a lot of the work is when you're not
00:45:33
on camera and it's this weight. I mean,
00:45:35
I felt it. I talked to Dennis Miller
00:45:37
about that when I first sort of
00:45:38
committed to this and it was my job. I
00:45:40
was making 600 a month. just this little
00:45:43
bit of weight and I still have it like I
00:45:46
got to write another joke or I better
00:45:48
David and I are going to play this
00:45:49
theater and
00:45:50
>> it's just it's just a interesting mind
00:45:52
game.
00:45:52
>> You always want to do good or you might
00:45:54
be out.
00:45:55
>> Yes. So it's this double whammy of like
00:45:58
got to have quant quality but also
00:46:00
content and now everybody wants more
00:46:02
content than ever. The the hunger for
00:46:05
content.
00:46:05
>> Do you do you do crowd stuff online on
00:46:09
like Instagram? I only I I hate where
00:46:12
you from, what do you do? Uh how long
00:46:14
you guys been together? I can't stand
00:46:15
all that [ __ ] So, I just do um
00:46:18
>> What race are you?
00:46:21
>> What What's your least favorite race?
00:46:22
>> I just do um show shout out some news
00:46:26
stuff. So, then the moon or they shout
00:46:29
out Iran and I can go off on that and
00:46:31
that's my clip. Just
00:46:33
>> And so, you do want clips to push gigs
00:46:36
to get people in the door. Okay.
00:46:38
>> That That's the name of the game now.
00:46:39
It's It's a nightmare, but the clips
00:46:41
really spread like herpes. And that that
00:46:44
can uh save your tickets
00:46:46
>> because we can't put out a special every
00:46:48
week.
00:46:49
>> I know. And you material to get them to
00:46:51
see your special,
00:46:52
>> right? Right.
00:46:53
>> Horrible. Yeah.
00:46:55
>> Damn. So, let's talk about None Too
00:46:57
Please because that's why you're here.
00:47:00
>> It's on Netflix. It's number six or
00:47:03
seven or eight. I mean, it's I looked at
00:47:05
it the the comedy or whatever. doing
00:47:08
extremely well.
00:47:09
>> Hey, thanks. We're We got lucky.
00:47:11
>> Yeah.
00:47:12
>> Got lucky. You've worked your way off.
00:47:14
>> I can't take a compliment. And now today
00:47:17
I'm like,
00:47:17
>> I understand. You're That's why you're
00:47:19
gonna You're going to keep getting
00:47:20
better.
00:47:23
>> I know. The next day they're like,
00:47:24
"Congratulations, you're in the top 10.
00:47:26
You got a new act yet?"
00:47:30
>> Exactly.
00:47:30
>> Tell some jokes. You got funny. Tell
00:47:32
some jokes.
00:47:33
>> I thought it looked good. I like the the
00:47:34
lighting. I like the way it was shot in
00:47:36
the size of the theater.
00:47:38
>> Thanks. Yeah, Boulder Theater. It was a
00:47:40
New Orleans themed.
00:47:42
>> That was the uh
00:47:43
>> from New Orleans and it was in Boulder.
00:47:45
>> Well, the the the green, yellow, and
00:47:48
purple is all New Orleans colored. It
00:47:49
was New Orleans music. So, I tried to
00:47:52
show a little love to the hometown. But
00:47:53
yeah, thank you. I I really uh pinched
00:47:56
some pennies on the last one and I think
00:47:58
it hurt me. So So this one I really put
00:48:00
some money into it.
00:48:02
>> The money that no one sees. Yes.
00:48:04
>> They're like, they're like, "Do you want
00:48:06
to pay for a big blue light?" I'm like,
00:48:08
"I don't give a [ __ ] Give me a black
00:48:10
curtain. How about that?"
00:48:12
>> I know. I know.
00:48:12
>> Okay. We We have 11 cameras.
00:48:15
What? Yeah. We're going to have 11
00:48:17
angles on you. You know,
00:48:19
>> usually, Dana, they go, "Here's how much
00:48:21
you're going to get." And they go,
00:48:22
"That's good. And now you have to go pay
00:48:24
for it." That's
00:48:26
>> They got us by the balls. It's pretty
00:48:27
impressive. It's genius because they
00:48:29
know the They have the eyeballs.
00:48:31
>> Yeah. Yeah. Did you have a moment in
00:48:33
your career so far where afterwards you
00:48:35
were just high as a kite? Because I know
00:48:37
you're kind of self-deprecating and
00:48:38
you're pushing yourself like better,
00:48:40
better, more, more, more. Do you have
00:48:41
any kind of moment you're like, "Fuck, I
00:48:43
landed that."
00:48:45
>> Yeah. Yeah. For sure. You get the little
00:48:47
wins because everybody thinks, "Oh, you
00:48:49
got a Netflix special. You must be
00:48:50
ecstatic." And I'm like, "Now, now I'm
00:48:52
worried about it doing well. I'm worried
00:48:53
about uh killing." And
00:48:58
>> a movie that you might do with Sam. All
00:49:01
right. Well, we're all over the place
00:49:02
now. Hold on. Uh uh.
00:49:04
>> Yeah. Me and Sam wrote a movie and we
00:49:06
got a backer. We got financing. So,
00:49:09
we're hoping to shoot this summer.
00:49:12
>> Interesting. Because, you know, David
00:49:14
has a movie coming out that he did.
00:49:17
>> Bus Boys.
00:49:18
>> Bus Boys.
00:49:19
>> That's gonna be big.
00:49:20
>> I think it's the same director. So,
00:49:21
that's why I knew about it.
00:49:23
>> Oh, Jonah.
00:49:24
>> Jonah. Yeah.
00:49:25
>> He's a good egg.
00:49:26
>> So, I think I think he told me it would
00:49:29
be probably around New York. Is that
00:49:30
what it is?
00:49:31
>> Yeah, we're going to shoot in New Jersey
00:49:32
to save a couple bucks. But uh
00:49:35
>> Oh, that's better than Yeah. Yeah.
00:49:37
>> Yeah.
00:49:37
>> No, that that's okay. Everything's about
00:49:40
saving and what's the best way because
00:49:42
all people want to do is really focus on
00:49:44
are you guys funny? At the end of the
00:49:45
day, same with Buzz Boys. Is the movie
00:49:48
funny? I don't care what the dishes are
00:49:50
in the background. I don't It's just
00:49:52
>> go try to be funny. And it's even that's
00:49:55
really hard. And uh but it's a it's a
00:49:58
fun thing to do because it's you guys. I
00:50:00
think you'll have fun doing it because
00:50:01
it's just one more challenge.
00:50:03
>> Yeah. And
00:50:05
>> we didn't get the money we wanted. We
00:50:06
wanted this amount of money. We got
00:50:08
about half of that. So we just went back
00:50:09
into the script and made all right,
00:50:11
let's make the warehouse on the
00:50:12
sidewalk. Let's make the yacht in a cab.
00:50:15
Let's make the,
00:50:16
>> you know, the airplane in an Uber.
00:50:19
>> Let's make Fresno Afghanistan.
00:50:23
>> Let's make the Statue of Liberty. 10
00:50:25
pole things I would say.
00:50:27
>> One is uh make sure you have some some
00:50:30
um things that would work if the sound
00:50:32
was broke.
00:50:34
>> You know,
00:50:35
>> funny with the funny with the sound off.
00:50:37
Make sure
00:50:38
>> Good point
00:50:38
>> that in that you're it's tracking that
00:50:41
no one has to think where are we now?
00:50:44
You know the clarity of each what the
00:50:47
what's going on. That's all clarity
00:50:49
funny with the sound off. And then, you
00:50:51
know, when you have your final read
00:50:53
through, make sure you click off
00:50:54
surefire killers and you got six of them
00:50:58
set pieces.
00:50:59
>> That's good advice.
00:51:00
>> Put everyone in the trailer and then the
00:51:02
movie will just go flat.
00:51:05
Now, that's a hard part. I mean, even
00:51:06
doing ours, we think we're so [ __ ]
00:51:08
hilarious, but it's so hard to make
00:51:10
scenes work. Then you're you're a slave
00:51:13
to the [ __ ] plot. And like our plot
00:51:16
is as wispy as you can get. So people
00:51:19
understand they want to be waiters, but
00:51:22
they're losers. It's like, we got it. So
00:51:25
turn down the volume and then just go,
00:51:28
okay, it looks like they're doing
00:51:29
something funny here. I'll turn it up
00:51:30
again.
00:51:31
>> I have one more piece, one more piece of
00:51:33
advice.
00:51:35
>> Um, originality, this is not an
00:51:38
absolute. Originality is the death of
00:51:40
creativity. You want to make sure that
00:51:42
you let The Hangover or whatever or
00:51:45
Tropic Thunder or these classic Will
00:51:47
Ferrell comedies, let them wash over
00:51:50
you. You know, they're not starting from
00:51:52
scratch. It's not copying, but allow
00:51:55
yourself to be influenced by things that
00:51:57
you loved and then you do it in your own
00:51:59
way. But if you try to reinvent the
00:52:01
wheel completely, so you know, it's like
00:52:04
if you were going to remake an Agatha
00:52:06
Christie movie, but you wouldn't it
00:52:08
wouldn't be exactly like that. they're
00:52:09
being murdered, the lights go out. So,
00:52:11
just allow yourself to be influenced.
00:52:13
Look back at those movies and don't
00:52:15
think you're copying.
00:52:16
>> Spend a lot of time looking at Wayne's
00:52:19
World. One
00:52:20
>> that way.
00:52:22
>> I've watched I watched all those
00:52:23
rewatched all those just to
00:52:25
>> Yeah. taste.
00:52:27
>> It's also new eyes because you're going
00:52:29
why is this funny? When do they do an
00:52:31
act break? How are they going to bring
00:52:33
together? I saw Anaconda on the plane
00:52:35
with Jackpot and it was pretty pretty
00:52:38
well done because now I just did it and
00:52:40
I was more involved. I'm like, how much
00:52:42
is that set? Where are they going? Is
00:52:44
that doubling for this? How much was
00:52:45
this person? Oh, that cast member did
00:52:47
this much stuff and a lot of stuff was
00:52:50
landing and it was pretty simple to
00:52:52
understand and they had some twists and
00:52:54
I was like, "Oh, I didn't see that
00:52:55
coming. That's good." So, overall I was
00:52:57
like, "This is pretty good." And it
00:52:58
looked that had a bigger budget.
00:53:00
Obviously, they have big stars.
00:53:02
>> Yeah.
00:53:03
>> But, uh, That was good.
00:53:04
>> I think great.
00:53:06
>> Yeah. I mean, it's like there this
00:53:09
director old timey Gary Marshall and he
00:53:12
did a movie because script supervisor
00:53:13
was on Wayne's World. He did a movie and
00:53:15
it just didn't work at all. He had
00:53:17
started Happy Days. His next movie was
00:53:20
Pretty Woman, which was a massive hit.
00:53:23
And I said,
00:53:24
>> "How to the script supervisor. How did
00:53:26
he get so much better?" She goes, "Well,
00:53:28
you know, just learned." So, it's almost
00:53:31
like you want to make the movie in your
00:53:34
head or storyboard ahead of time, like
00:53:36
learn because you always look back and
00:53:38
go, "Oh, we could have done it that way
00:53:41
or this way or that way," which is hard
00:53:43
the first one. So, I'm I'm only telling
00:53:45
you this because in case it's slightly
00:53:48
useful, you probably thought of all of
00:53:49
it, but um
00:53:51
>> we'll think anything.
00:53:52
>> It's fun. I mean, if you love movies,
00:53:54
movies are just fun. They're hard work,
00:53:56
but I love them when they work.
00:53:58
>> Yeah. and they're they're falling by the
00:53:59
wayside. We used to get like five six
00:54:01
comedies a year in the 90s and now it's
00:54:04
just like
00:54:06
>> few and far between.
00:54:07
>> Rated is hard to come.
00:54:09
>> Yes. I think Tik Tok and memes have uh
00:54:12
picked up a lot of slack and I think
00:54:14
executives are just nervous about making
00:54:17
a certain movie or a certain theme and
00:54:21
uh so we're trying to go around them.
00:54:23
But
00:54:23
>> I think people are craving it. I mean,
00:54:25
Bus Boys is going to be a hit. I can
00:54:27
tell. And you know the Joe Dirts, all
00:54:29
these movies we we grew up loving. So
00:54:31
like I saw Wayne's World 2 in the
00:54:32
theater.
00:54:34
>> Yeah. [ __ ] yeah.
00:54:35
>> Big silly silly movies. Yeah, I do
00:54:38
think. And it's maybe pretty much a
00:54:40
cliche, but uh people probably are
00:54:43
craving it in a way. Can I go in and
00:54:45
just laugh my ass off and just relax and
00:54:48
not escape?
00:54:50
>> I think executives Well, we we the DVD
00:54:53
sales are gone now, so you lose all that
00:54:55
and that that hurt it. But I think
00:54:56
executives are just like they they love
00:54:59
an office space. They you bring it up to
00:55:01
them at a cocktail party, they go, "I
00:55:03
love that movie." And you go, "You want
00:55:04
to make one just like it?" And they go,
00:55:05
"Well, no one's going to see that."
00:55:08
>> So,
00:55:08
>> it is hard. I think they're frozen.
00:55:11
They're like, they want to do it, no one
00:55:13
wants to get fired, so no one's making
00:55:15
big moves. They're like,
00:55:16
>> I just I could push it off or redevelop
00:55:18
it and develop it until I just don't get
00:55:20
fired because what if it comes out
00:55:22
>> and offends people? Then I'm out, you
00:55:24
know? Exactly. A little bit of it.
00:55:26
>> There's always the oldfashioned mock
00:55:28
documentary which costs like five cents.
00:55:32
>> Camera.
00:55:33
>> Yeah.
00:55:34
>> Well, Mark, we appreciate you coming on,
00:55:36
buddy.
00:55:37
>> None too pleased on Netflix. Check them
00:55:39
out. It's been a pleasure.
00:55:42
>> I'm gonna I'm gonna keep an eye on you.
00:55:45
>> I'm gonna watch your trajectory because
00:55:47
you're
00:55:47
>> Thank you. It's an honor. You guys are
00:55:49
both uh big fans and Take the Hit was
00:55:52
huge for me and all that. So, uh, hey,
00:55:55
and don't forget Police Academy.
00:55:57
>> I do.
00:55:58
>> Yeah,
00:55:59
>> I would love that.
00:56:00
>> No one's mentioned that before. That's
00:56:01
great. What a day.
00:56:03
>> Police was so much [ __ ] fun. Oh my
00:56:05
god, I was innocent.
00:56:08
>> You see how hot Sharon Stone was in it?
00:56:11
>> Oh, unreal.
00:56:12
>> I was like, who? And she was so nice on
00:56:15
it.
00:56:16
>> Now she looks like you. But uh, yeah,
00:56:20
I'm just gonna I'd still go down on her.
00:56:21
>> We're both offended. Thank you.
00:56:23
>> See, that's the thing. You back your
00:56:25
thing in your double tank. Of course.
00:56:27
I'm just kidding. And then Yeah,
00:56:30
it's jokes. It's comedy.
00:56:32
>> We got to talk skateboarding one day. Uh
00:56:34
Spade, but
00:56:34
>> Oh, are you a skater? Okay. Yeah.
00:56:36
>> I skated for years.
00:56:38
>> Oh, [ __ ] Yes. Are do you know Whitney's
00:56:40
husband?
00:56:41
>> Yes. Chris Cole. He's a killer. He's He
00:56:43
rips.
00:56:44
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