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If you don't park over the line, there's no joke. There's no joke. Jerry. Jerry.
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No. No show. I'm just a social mess. I don't. Like most things I say are uh It's not even offensive. It's just like h I'd rather
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not. Yeah. I mean, it's one of the biggest shows ever. And he's definitely one of
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the biggest shows in the world right now. If not like the biggest. I'm pretty friendly with him. I mean, I'm not going to say we're BFFs, but that's kind of cool, you know.
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Yeah, he's I'm kind of a fan. I see him on stuff and then I ran across him. We wound up
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doing a commercial during co right before co. So, I I definitely got to see if he remembers that. And we all mostly know
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him from Flea Bag and Stranger Things. Of course, that's Smash. One of the biggest hits in the world.
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Yeah. Stranger Things. He's been on the last four seasons and I think the new seasons coming out this fall. Yeah. So, we'll we'll ask him. So, we got a lot of stuff with him. He's
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a super cool, chill dude, and uh I make fun of him a little bit, but um I always
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do when I see him, but he's a real good guy, good sport. He's on Tik Tok a lot and surprisingly
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uh does some really like I don't know if it's out of character or in character stuff, but it's pretty interesting and
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he's got a lot of followers over there. That's going to be exciting. Yeah, he's a good dude and uh let's hear
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from him. Here he is. Bretty there. All right, our guest today is Brett Galman from Galman's Manise
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from Gal. Are you ready for this? Gilman's over there. He doesn't understand what I got to do.
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Gman Regious. I mean, I really But in all seriousness and through all that stress, I'm so uh
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I'm so excited to meet you, Dana, and see you, David, and be on here. You know, uh Dana, this is Brett, who's a you know,
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business acquaintance of mine. Yeah, we could say that, right? Absolutely. I mean, I think that like we were flirting with friendship.
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Yeah. And I I think we should go back to that. We could start over. Dane is too tough.
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But I am available for friendship. And Dane is far away. He's lives too far. I'm quasorophobic, antisocial, picked a weird career, but yeah. Do you
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ever go through that phase where like you meet someone at a club or whatever and you're really uh connecting? This is
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dude stuff, not women. And you're like, I take I'll take your number and then even text a few more times and go this
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guy's really funny and smart and we're having fun and then it just stops one day and then you don't it just that's
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it. Um Yeah. No, it happens all the time. You get That's what we did. Yeah. I think though like that that meeting point is real. Like I think you're excited
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and then I think life and like the insanity of our own brains or neurosis starts to take over
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and if it doesn't take that next step soon enough it can go in the toilet. It's more out of sight, out of mind. Like I think just logistically Brett and I did a uh I said Brent. That's another
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one you say Brent. That's all that happens to me all the time. That has to happen to you. That's a that's a give up name. That's
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the name where at a certain point I don't correct it. Yeah, [ __ ] it. We did, didn't we do a T-Mobile commercial or am I crazy? Yeah, we did a T-Mobile commercial
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uh right before the pandemic. [ __ ] co. I think we one of the last things I did that was still I think there was even whispers like are we still going to shoot this? Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. We did it. I think maybe February before March was the bad 2020 situation and it was Brett and I in God was we at the we were at the not the DMV no
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unemployment office. Yeah. And you were an unemployment uh agent and I was like in looking for jobs and then
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co happened. Right. So what I heard was so we do this commercial which was going to be on dur
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in the final four for March Madness and it was a big commercial maybe even 90 seconds not just a minute it was a long
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one and so Brad who I didn't know well or know at all I just knew of seeing him and stuff
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knew he was funny but then we had a blast so we do the commercial it's funny uh it it uh roughly I don't know if I
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saw Rough Cup but I like the director I like the whole thing about it I was T-Mobile it was all good And then they
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then co hit so they said we're going to push it because the final four I don't know if it's going to happen and they started
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canceling b anyway slowly eroding and then like a month later they go we're just going to hold it right now because
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America's not ready for comedy and I was like I don't know if this is Saturday Night Live it's a 90 second commercial
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but okay so then I heard they held it more and they said oh now we can't air it because we realize it's an unemployment setting and people are losing their jobs right now and not no one's working. And
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I'm like, "Okay, I didn't I didn't even get that part." I was like, "Oh, I guess it is." And then um and then later they
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they go, "We're going to air it." And it was aired as a 15-second Instagram commercial. Yeah.
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So, it was cut down to the nub. I mean, for a commercial, it was really good. We were funny together.
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I loved it. I mean, 15. We could have We We got every drop out of that 15 seconds. Is there any way we could find
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that and show it right now? I mean, we should because America, if you can, Greg. If not, don't worry about Here's my question. One is I could
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see you're on a set and you you see another person with a kindred spirit, comedian, funny, funny, funny, funny,
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funny. And then you're just being comedian, so being really honest, you know, I have diarrhea, whatever it is. And then do
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you kind of tell each other or wink at each other, what are you getting paid to do this commercial? Did you tell each other that? No, because I knew that David was probably getting paid way more
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than I was, and he probably knew that, too. Well, we don't bring up such things on
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sets. I didn't bring it up during grown-ups. That's for sure. Right. I was I was like, Adam, this is all Fed
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Nations, right? Right. Wait, do you bring that up, Dana, when you're on set? Do you find out what
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Oh, I don't know. I I'm, you know, it's almost like a taboo. It's like a word you shouldn't say, but like celebrity
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net worth is something I check once in a while. I don't take it seriously, but uh you know the monetary aspect of the
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magic of show business, the way people perceive it is kind of interesting and how it es and flows and where you were
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in 2020. You were you you'd broken through. You became a star. So I just thought maybe
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it'd be fairly close, but I can't tell. David would be the veteran in that scenario. That was the bummer is that
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Brett was doing great and he's very funny and we did a funny commercial and it's sad because I go he and I in a
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commercial this would have been a good one I thought. So it was I was sad to see it go. Sometimes I shoot stuff and it goes away
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and I go okay. It was just kind of work. No, but that was that was fun. Jody Hill directed it.
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Oh is that that's right. Like from you know the whole Danny McBride David Gordon Green crew you know
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uh co-creator of all those shows. Mhm. So, he was he was great, but he like also just like was very loose and cool
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and let us do our thing, too. And we had cool glasses on, too. I wanted to get those glasses. And uh uh
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these glasses. Well, we'll have to get the band back together. Not those. You look cool in glasses, though. You got a kind of a cool vibe going.
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Thanks. Thanks. Likewise. You know, I I work at it. It's uh it's one of the things I work at. Yeah, vibes are, you know, you can you can change your vibe. I had a
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you can make vibes better. You can change I had a shirt like that once, but then my mom got a job. But uh
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Jesus crowd work. That was from big. I won't say the label. It's like kind of a No, it's like it's a fancy label. Jason Kelsey, too. It's very It's very
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oversized, though. Yeah. Yeah. I don't mind it though. It's very tentlike. It's expensive. I think so. Very expensive. Very Now, I dumped so
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much money into this shirt. It was It was crazy. That was your big investment. It is an investment. No, you take out it. It It appreciates over time.
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I know right now, and this sounds like a weird thing, but they are doing uh I saw
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a guy on Listen, it's no [ __ ] It was on TikTok and he was taking out uh clothes on layaway, but really blingy, expensive, not necessities. He's like, "Check this [ __ ] out." And he had all
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this stuff, but clothes on layaway. It's been a while since I've heard that. I could see if you're stuck, but this guy
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wasn't stuck. He's just like, "I'm going to blow this [ __ ] up with this outfit." I thought, "Whoa, now you're getting in
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debt with clothes. That's tough." That is tough. No, I mean, not the right call, I don't think. No,
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that's like an added. There's always that when you buy some an expensive article of clothing,
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there's always that stress that I don't think ever leaves you where you're like, "Oh man, did I just like is this just so
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stupid and irresponsible that I just just bought this this article of clothing?"
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But that added stress of putting that on layaway. Yeah. The thing about clothes, I have I
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have obviously nice clothing. obviously day in a house and we and if I get so excited let's say about a shirt, let's
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just say a shirt then or 300 shirt and I'm and I'm I you know I bring it home and I keep it on a hanger and I'm all excited. I'm not going to wear it here. I'll wear it here. Do all that rig and roll. Then I find out like a year
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and a half later I'm in a clothing store trying on a new shirt I like and the one I liked is stuffed on the floor going I'm like who gives a [ __ ] about this?
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Look at this new shirt. And I'm like, "Oh, this is the same feeling I had about that one, but now that one's run
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through the ringer and and we've lost something. We've lost some of the love for it." Yeah. You got to get rid of stuff.
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You got to get rid of stuff. You got to clean out the closet. I mean, you know, of course, you have those choice
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things that you keep forever, but then certain things you got to be like once you start seeing it as it's too much
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through the ringer, you know, you got to get rid of it or it'll when you lose your love. I do agree with
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that woman that holds it up and goes, "You still, what does this she say?" She goes, "Spark joy."
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She holds it up. Does this spark joy? And you feel it and you go, "I really like this. Good memories. Keep it." This one dead air. Nope. Out.
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This is nothing. I'm holding on to this. Clothes are like people like you can have an unneeded obligation
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with an article of clothing that is being microcorive to your to your psyche. Absolutely. Heavy heavy duty. I think about this way too much.
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Yeah. I'm going to think about it from now on. Yeah. Just just because you can afford it doesn't mean you should have it. I once
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bought a jacket I think at Barney's for $1,000 and I could have got the same thing at Target for $88. I mean, literally the same. And for years I referred to it as the
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$1,000 jacket. I felt ashamed of it. I eventually threw it out in anger. But there is kind of a disease when you
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first get a little extra money. And I would ask you, you're uh you kind of buy did you have a very silly purchase? Did
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you get a Porsche? Did you what? Did you have any when you first got extra extra?
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I No, I don't think so. I'm always afraid that everything is a silly purchase, you
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know? That's smart. I definitely have like I definitely have again like splurged on clothing where
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I'm just like, "Oo, that's not good." One one silly purchase was I found out it wasn't like a purchase. this guy that I knew, he had a GoFundMe
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and and it was for his dog and what I thought it said was is like my dog needs surgery or it's going to die. I thought
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it was like the dog needs surgery. So, oh, I'm going to put a, you know, a I had just gotten a big paycheck, I think. I'm like, I'm gonna put a good amount of money into this dog surgery to
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save this dog. I love dogs. But then after I found out the dog had already had surgery and I would he just needed money
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because he had paid for his dog surgery. Oh, I see. Which is a completely different thing.
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Yeah. And this guy wasn't that good of a friend. Now I might even consider him an enemy in a way. I uh like I really don't like him anymore. It's heading that way.
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Yeah. You know what he should have put? He should have called it a GoFundMe and then you just I just want to have fun.
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Yeah. But I think that's great. Yeah. No, I mean that's that's like a curb your enthusiasm episode. Yeah. It really is. The dog was already fine. The dog was
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appealed. He took my money. If it was a curb episode, I'd go up to him. I'd be like,
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"Hey, uh, what are you doing?" Like, "Yeah, I thought your dog needed the surgery. I
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thought your dog needed the surgery." Right. Your money back. I'd ask for the money
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back. Pay back. And he would go, "I got the surgery. So, it's your money. I put it in the surgery. So, I'm filling
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that hole back. So, it's basically the surgery money." And then, and then the guy would be mad. The guy
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would be mad that you're asking for it back. What do you want the money back for? You know, right?
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That's my best Larry Dave. And then and then No, I I love it. So Dana, I'm a um 5h hour energy guy. I golf, too. So Mhm. There's a uh five-hour energy golf
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unofficial cocktail. They call it transfusion, right? And uh it's got like grape, lime, and ginger.
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It's got caffeine. Probably as much as a premium cup of coffee, but no sugar. I don't like sugar. I I try not to eat sugar. Sugar makes you go up and then you go. So you want to keep even. That's what
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makes you go beep. Then it makes you go bop. Then makes you go. It makes you go. So I stay away from sugar is our point.
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But that's not 5hour energy transfusion has. Yeah. They're little too. You can carry
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them around. Mhm. You know, you go to you can either go to fivehourenergy.com with the number fivehourenery.com, but
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I get them. They sell them a lot of places. You can always just grab them. And it's got a lot of B vitamins.
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Yeah. Amino acids, nutrients, uh, you know, keep you alert and energized because I've been around you where like we're
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out to dinner or lunch and it's one one o'clock here and here you get your entree and this is you.
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Oh, no. I I look at you and I'm like, "This guy has no amino acids in his body." I can tell. I look at you and this is like this I just in my head I see this guy.
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Let me see. I got to look at you again. Okay. Did I take five hour energy? Yeah, this guy needs some 500. This was you at the lunch. Don't do it again. Let me see. I have to
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cut back. Anyway, get your buddies tea off with some energy. Uh, 5H hour energy transfusion is available online or in stores. Head to www. Remember that?
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Mhm. 5hour energy.com to order yours today. Didn't you do Curb? What did you do on
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Curb? You did? I did a I did a I did a short thing on Curb where uh I was the pig parker and the
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whole bit it was a scene where I parked slightly over the line and he got really mad at me for that. But it was sort of like my experience on it was like kind of
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like a curb episode because at first he thought I was like a total [ __ ] Yeah. Because in the rehearsal I parked I it was a huge car. I couldn't see over the hood so I couldn't see the lines. So
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I park and I see him walking towards the car and he's shaking his head and I'm like, "Okay, here we go. Dream come true." You know, I'm like doing this with one of my heroes and
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and then he's like walking. She's like, "No, no, no, no, no, no. You see, you parked perfectly in the space." And I'm
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and I look and I'm like, "Oh, no." And and he's like, "See, the whole thing is you park a little outside of the space." Pig Parker. Yeah. And then that affects everybody else who
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parks and that's why I get mad at you. I'm like, "No, no, no. I promise I'm not stupid." No, you knew that. I like He restates
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the whole thing that you thought you didn't get at all. You thought you didn't get the joke. He thought because I didn't audition.
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So, you thought I was just some stupid annoying actor that um didn't understand comedy at all. It is exactly a curve episode for him to walk up. Then he's explaining the show to you and you're like, "No, I know. I
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just can't see. If you don't park over the line, there's no joke. There's no joke, Jerry. Jerry, no. No joke." And then I had this two then like after the first take, you
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know, I I mean he's laughing so you're immediately put at ease because you're like, "Oh my god, he's like he's loving
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it." And then we do like two takes. The second take goes even better and we're laughing together and I'm like, "Holy [ __ ] I'm sharing a laugh with him right now." And then he and then I'm like, "Oh
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my god, it's so crazy. It's like we're literally arguing about nothing." And I it's it's like nothing was written coming like a cartoon like coming out of
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my mouth and I was trying to grab it before it reached his ears because it was just like that's the stupidest cheesiest [ __ ] thing I could say right now.
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Yeah. And he looks at me he goes yeah stops laughing and he's like yeah it's pretty
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much the basis of my whole career. Yeah. Nothing. This wasn't clever. This was just nothing. That's why Larry, who's so sweet, we had him on this show and uh but he's kind of
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intimidating because his whole comic genius is seen through everybody and everything into the minutia of what's really happening. So, it kind of can get in your head a little bit sometimes.
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Absolutely. No, and my whole thing is is I am a person to constantly be seen through. I'm just like I'm just a social mess. I
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don't like most things I say are uh it's not even offensive. It's just like h I'd rather not. I feel like oh text regret is big. I mean text
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regret in the moment I'm sending it and then you look back and you go holy [ __ ] that comes off so terrible. Yeah.
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Oh text regret every single day. I hate it. I hate texting so much. I really I really do love talking on the phone. I texting gives me so much anxiety and I
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mostly text because people don't want to talk on the phone as we know. Uh you know Brett, have you ever gotten
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to the thing where you are texting? First of all, I can't spell that well so I do voice notes. If you're texting and
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you're going back and forth with someone, it's funny and you're just laughing and you spell two things wrong
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and you've got to go back and I'm like, I'm not as quick now because they think I'm thinking of this joke this whole time. And so I And then I see them starting to talk again. I'm like, "No,
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I'm just fixing the joke." And I send it, they're like, "Oh yeah, that's funny now, but it would have been funny 30
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seconds ago." Right. Right. It's terrible. Yeah. It's horrifying. It's too much stress. And the ghosty thing means
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they're reading your last text, right? So that's makes it more urgent. Holy [ __ ] That means they're starting to type. No,
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they're typing. Yeah. Well, that's the dots. The dots are [ __ ] on your ass. They're coming for you.
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I know. And they're so fast. Yeah. It's really not good for taking each other in and listening. I mean, I know
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this is a cliche thing to say. You know, it's been said millions of times for the last what, like 10 years, but like it's
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not good for communication. That's why like I love your voice notes. I think that's a better way. That's fun. Definitely. Yeah. Dana gets too much. He gets dilued with
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them. I got him on them now, too. I know. I missed them. I was getting them. It was Was I not replying enough?
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Was that the thing? No, you were good. I think I think our problem with our dating was you were
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geographically far from me and it was hard to coordinate a dinner or something in Los Angeles. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'll come to you. Let's Were you Echo Park or something?
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Yeah. And then it was also COVID, so it was like hard to I mean, I think you can tell I have medium to a lot of germs and I think
00:22:09
that threw you a little bit. Um, maybe maybe you were like maybe giving. Brett, let me ask you this based on you you being feeling like you're a social
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mess. Besides the tragedy of the of COVID, was there anything about the quietness of the pandemic that calmed
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your brain down? cuz just curious just what show business shut down, everything shut down and you just got to
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like at the in the beginning it was that thing of like you ever get like you know you get the flu or you get a really bad
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cold and there's almost like something that's a relief about it. You're like oh my god
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I don't have to do anything. I can just like it gives you the excuse to just [ __ ] no one expects anything either. Yeah, you're like, I can take this time. And
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that's what co was at times. At first, it was also like, oh, is the world ending? This is terrifying. But um but at first it was like, okay, yeah, it was
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just me and my now wife and our dogs. And it was it was calming, but then it became isolating that. I mean, you say
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you're an agorophobe, Dana. Mhm. Is that Is that calming to you to be alone sometimes? Does it go between calming and isolating? No, I I just calming really. Uh there's
00:23:37
so much stimulus. Uh you know, World War II documentaries on YouTube. I mean, there's a lot of stuff that's really
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interesting. I watch calming. I I like that. But, um I I would just say I'm an introverted extrovert on some
00:23:50
scale. I don't wouldn't say it's dramatic, but when I go out there in a social situation, I lose energy after a
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time and want to get quiet and other people get energy from parties and things like that, you know, because I
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when I do standup, it's so extroverted, so much energy that it it sort of makes me tired, but I do love it. So
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yeah, I think when no when I'm extroverted and being really extroverted and it goes well like I do a performance or I have a day on set that goes well or even like I go to a party and I do
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social I have a good time. Then I I have more energy and I actually have to come down from it. I have to
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come down from it. That's true. Yeah. I have a lot of energy. I have an annoying amount of energy.
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When you're shooting and you're giving it 70%. Are you tired? Yes. Yes. Did you work with Schwarzen? What'd you do on pretend time? What'd you do there?
00:24:48
We'll get to your We'll get to your other stuff, Stranger Things. I know you're going, "Why aren't you asking me
00:24:55
what the fans are begging for?" The season premiere of season five. The date is just it's all over the web. It's wild. It's wild.
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Stranger Things scared me. The show itself or like the idea? Yeah, I watched I was watching it the
00:25:12
first season and I was like, is this a scary show? I thought there was kids in it. I thought it was like ET or
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something. Yeah, I know. It's like in It's I my It is really scary. I mean, my mother took
00:25:24
a while to watch it and I was like, "No, you should watch She's like, "Is it scary though?" I was like, "It's not
00:25:30
that scary. It's not that scary." And then like a couple days later, she called me
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at like 3:00 in the morning and like left a voicemail. I missed her call. And she's like, "Brett, it's 3:00 in the
00:25:43
morning here. I'm watching the show. You said this was not that scary, Brett. This show is very scary, but I can't
00:25:53
stop watching it." She got It's well done. That's the thing. I mean, those kids like get the [ __ ] beat
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out of them sometimes by demons. By demons. Yeah. A demon will just like boom to like a
00:26:07
little girl. It's like very intensely violent, but like I think it's got to be in order to have integrity, I think. Have you ever met Millie Bobby Brown?
00:26:20
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I have. I don't know how sets work. I don't know how it works over there.
00:26:25
No. No. I I guess I guess I could have worked out where I didn't like I didn't I haven't
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had like have I had I've had like not even like a scene with her necessarily. Um but no, I've met Yeah, I know. And those three dudes or the four how
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there's four dudes? Three dudes. There's four guys. Four main guys. I think I ran into them all at something
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and they're all pretty cool. I like them. They're all really cool. Those kids do have their a good good heads on their
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shoulders. Absolutely. Very tough. It's such a monster hit that it's probably you're at least somewhat
00:27:04
in the business for a while where you can kind of had highs and lows and you probably I'm guessing just appreciate
00:27:10
it. And it's harder to keep your feet on the ground when it's the first thing you do is like so big.
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Yeah. I think like the it's always seems to me when I'm like talking to them is that they
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they're either naturally that way or they've worked at making sure they stay grounded and they have people around them that keep them ground and they like all the thing is like I think too it was
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kind of like their school I think uh I know I'm speaking for them but I think they helped keep each other grounded
00:27:41
because they were in this you know. Yeah. They're all about the same age. are all kind of hanging out.
00:27:47
Yeah, the outside world is but you know to leave that I always compared like friends is like when your first thing
00:27:53
works so well it's really hard to have everything stay in balls in the air the rest of your show biz, right? Yeah, absolutely. That' be Yeah, because
00:28:04
like for me the show's a real high after some other highs but mostly lows and also we all have things that we loved that we really believed in and it meant
00:28:18
a lot to us that didn't do well. So you go through that too and you learn well not every and then we were all in
00:28:25
things that maybe did well that we didn't really dig that much. So, we've had like
00:28:32
that whole all those colors of experiences where we can stay right in that like and to keep your confidence level just throughout it all like you're still good at it or you're still a good person.
00:28:43
It's just and people look at you differently and then they pay attention then they don't pay it's that's for
00:28:48
younger. I mean as an adult it's hard. So if you're younger show and you're already dealing with like that type of [ __ ] as a kid or as a
00:28:59
teenager that's just so social enough. Yeah. Then you add on how many followers you have, how many who's more famous on the set.
00:29:13
I mean it's sickening. I know it's tough. As Dana says it's rough out there. Well,
00:29:19
I just call it an emotionally violent sport. No, it's [ __ ] really rough. It's really so true. It's crazy. We all do it. I I I I think I I didn't want to
00:29:33
interrupt. Sorry. But I mean, you did so much before this, you know, watch researching, you know, with uh Adult Swim and Comedy Central and shows. you did something with Chris Elliott and all
00:29:44
this stuff and and you're you're doing well, but nothing is popping. And then you get
00:29:50
this thing which I guess is the biggest show by numbers or in in the last eight years. No, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, it's one of the biggest shows ever and it's
00:30:04
definitely one of the biggest shows in the world right now, if not like the biggest. And no, you really It's pretty
00:30:11
tripped out. to like be in other countries and people really know who you are and to also be like, "Oh, this is like kind of the equivalent of what Star Wars was, the
00:30:24
original Star Wars was." Yeah. You know, and what those actors were seen as and that like you're seen as like a part of people's family in a way.
00:30:35
Like it's it's pretty wild. I mean, like it was this and like Flea Bag. Fleag jumped you up there in the industry that made Flea Bag was a real industry one like
00:30:48
everyone's like yes like worshiped it awards bait yeah for sure like that Emmys and Golden Globes it was like all all eyes on her all eyes on her
00:31:00
everybody no matter how big they were everybody was just like when you were sitting at the table or you're sitting
00:31:06
in the seats you could feel people everybody in the room watching her it It was wild.
00:31:11
Yeah. So after all this time in the show business, you got these one two huge critically brilliant and then and then Stranger Things. So did you just absolute
00:31:25
gratitude? Were you I mean I I How do you process or are you angry about it? Are you angry? Why didn't people see how
00:31:32
brilliant I was 10 years ago? You Oh yeah, that's right. you know, [ __ ] Stranger Thought
00:31:46
gratitude for it. Yeah. You know, Stranger Things is also looked at as sort of a very interesting I mean,
00:31:52
I think that gets a lot of praise, too, for being such a cool, you know, it's not like the flea bag type of show, but
00:31:58
it's just different lens. You see it and go, "Shit, they know what they're doing, you know?" Oh, yeah. No, I mean I think I think it
00:32:06
is artistically, you know, one of the best things I've ever been a part of and one of the best things out. Uh yeah, I'm really proud to be a part of
00:32:18
it. Yeah. I mean, you know, if it was big and it was bad, I wouldn't I don't know if I would have the gratitude I
00:32:23
have. I think the the gratitude mostly comes from that I get to be on a really awesome show and then on top of that it's those rare moments where the thing
00:32:34
that's really good is also really successful. Right. And it looks like you're having a
00:32:39
blast. I was looking at some clips just having a lot a lot of fun. It's really fun. It's like I mean
00:32:45
playing that character is really like a character I grew up loving, you know, like watching like Danny DeVito and like Romancing the Stone.
00:32:57
That's a great one. I mean like just comedic the comedic relief in the in the big action or sci-fi thing and and that he's kind of a prick and he's grouchy
00:33:08
and you know he's the he's the per you know the truths in a way but that nobody likes or wants to be like and uh yeah I mean it's just like such a
00:33:20
kid fantasy of wanting to do this and that being one of the types of things I wanted to do. You do like a year, you
00:33:27
shoot for a while, and then it takes a while to come on and then people like woof it down and like in like three days
00:33:34
and then you go, "God damn, all that work." And it's like, "Oh, okay. What next?" I think they watch it like a lot of
00:33:40
times though. I think like the like rewatch it a lot. It's kind of interesting because good in
00:33:47
a way you have that break because people just go back and cram it over and over. No, it's wild. It's wild. I mean, like,
00:33:54
people are really like, "When's it coming?" Like, the fans are like pissed. They're pissed. Like, they're like, "I need it. I need it." Yeah. And uh Well, I you know, I did this
00:34:07
show. They're going to get a little appetizer because and this sort I did this show
00:34:14
like I shot it like two and a half years ago and it was with the Flea Bag Producers
00:34:20
actually and we shot it in the UK. It's called Entitled and it's like this really crazy gothic horror comedy show and Netflix just bought it and so it's
00:34:32
coming out. Oh, that's great. Untitled July 15. Untitled. Yeah. If someone said to you
00:34:39
the phrase, "When it rains, it pours." Would you relate to that? No. Well, now you have Now you have another show. You got Flea Bank. He's He's out
00:34:51
of control. He's had enough strange things. I'm greedy. I'm greedy. I want more.
00:34:57
More. Will it go away or what? Is this the peak? Do you have agents and managers that go, "Listen, kid." Because they're
00:35:03
older than you. We got to We got to plan your next move. But you've already written and produced. You're already a
00:35:09
self-creative. You know how to do all that stuff entity. You're not just an actor for hire. You have this massive resume of
00:35:15
creating your own stuff. So you have leverage now, though. Leverage. They're going to be happy to see you in the room
00:35:21
or they have been for a while. I think I mean, hey, I hope so. It's like when you're in the vacuum in your
00:35:27
house and you're just like with your people all day, it's like hard to see yourself that way. you're like and
00:35:34
there's so many obstacles for everything that like it's easy to like not notice the yeses. So it's like I'm constantly trying to get so many things moving because I don't know
00:35:47
what's going to hit. The most peaceful time is like when you're making the thing because then
00:35:52
it's almost like being sick. You're like this is all I can do for it to be good.
00:35:58
So, I'm just like on this thing and then but then when you're in the in between times and all these things are swarming
00:36:05
about, it's real weird. I mean, like I feel like certain rooms I can walk into and people are going to be like, "Yes,
00:36:11
oh my god, what do you got to do?" And then other rooms I'm going to walk into and people are going to be like,
00:36:17
"Who the [ __ ] are you?" Yeah. Who are you? I'd be curious to ask you this question. like now in 2025, the industry, AI, the
00:36:26
strike, the whole thing that went on and what what are this what is what are the streamers looking for? What are they
00:36:32
what are they trying to buy? Just the because I I'm not in that world. Is it evolved? Is it changed? How would you
00:36:38
describe it right now? I I don't know. I really don't know. I mean, like, you always hear all these
00:36:43
things that people are saying, but then you don't see the industry really change
00:36:50
all that much in terms of like what they're buying and what works. It always seems like what hits is like
00:36:58
Yeah. It's always off the beaten path. Then they go, "Now we go chase that. So, let's do a Stranger Things." And
00:37:04
you're like, "That's been done." And it came out of the blue. And then something pops up over here and they go, "No, that's what we should be
00:37:10
doing. Nobody wanted Stranger Things and like the Duffer brothers were like you can't have the leads be kids and like all the all the stuff and then you know Netflix was young and
00:37:24
it was just like all these things lined up for it to become a massive hit in that moment. And I think that's all you you never know. I pitched Kids and Monsters to Ted Serandos in 2014
00:37:38
and he just got real quiet and said, "Oh, we'll talk later." I never heard from him. And then I saw Stranger
00:37:44
Things. I went, "Huh?" No, because Dana added, he said, "It's a poorly written show about kids and
00:37:50
monsters and kids and monsters." But back then they wanted poorly written. I was there chasing. I like when you you know you're doing well when your agent's like, "What do you want to do now? Did
00:38:02
you have you written anything? What's your dream, Brett? What do you want to do now?
00:38:07
Yeah. Drama. You're like a cross between David Cross and Paul Giami. So, we got Giam.
00:38:14
We You're gold kid. I'm telling you. I look better than those two though, right? I mean, I'm I'm better, right? You're you're Well, yeah. I understand what you're
00:38:26
saying. I'm working on T-Mobile the movie. And uh also like this thing you wrote movie. Yeah. I like when your mom calls you. She goes
00:38:39
3 in the morning. She goes Brent. Right. And you even let her say Brent. You're like it's the first time that she's called me at 3 in the morning and not called me bread.
00:38:50
That was that was the one positive thing about that message. You know, other than
00:38:55
that, she was watching the show, of course. What did you do with uh Nick Schwarzson?
00:39:01
Because I know this is sort of a low light in your career. U Nick Schwartzson, who's a friend of ours.
00:39:07
I love that. What was you on pretend time with him? Yeah. I love that show. I love it. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean that was one of those,
00:39:16
you know, like Nick was one of those people, you know, you got on that show and I was like, "Okay, I'm doing okay."
00:39:22
Yeah. Doing that. Did you know Nick before that? because I know him and uh he's like if I say I saw
00:39:27
he goes he's a really good friend of mine. I'm like all right that's enough. Right. I didn't know him like incredibly
00:39:33
well but like you know I would see him perform and stuff and I would I was like this guy's so funny and he was so nice.
00:39:41
I hate to say it. He's funny sweet nice guy. Yeah he's a sweetheart. It meant a lot that he put me on the
00:39:47
show. Yeah. All right Dana what do you want to what do you got for this guy? Anything else? This guy's been a good guy.
00:39:53
There's so the the resume is so big. I mean, too much of a resume. Eagle Heart with Chris Elliot who I
00:39:58
think is brilliant and Conan produced that I assume. How long did that go? That was 2011 to 2014. Three years or
00:40:06
something. It was like three seasons. I mean, you know, Chris, I think is one of the
00:40:11
funniest people of all time. Oh, for sure. And uh I mean, Chris made me tough, man.
00:40:16
I mean, Chris, he like Wow. It really felt like a lot of times that the show that we were filming was the break and
00:40:28
that the actual show is what was happening uh in between the takes a lot of time. Oh. Oh. It was like crazy crazy elaborate bits
00:40:38
mostly of him uh telling me how terrible I was and that like at times I was like I
00:40:48
think that this is a joke but even if it's not it's so funny. It's so funny and uh I mean to like I mean the the genius of the guy I mean it really like
00:41:01
and then you know the guys who made that Jason Walner and Michael Coleman and uh and and and uh Andrew Weinberg they were
00:41:10
such fans of his and like knew his voice so well and it was like I mean it was you know they they idolized Get a Life
00:41:17
and they idolized all the Letterman bits. So, it was like taking that and putting it in this Walker Texas Ranger
00:41:25
type of world. That was uh completely insane. Completely insane. And I loved playing.
00:41:31
I mean, it was I learned a lot from working with him and watching him. Yeah. Yeah. He is good. Well, I grew up watching him on Letterman and just thinking this is such an odd move. Like
00:41:42
if you don't know comedy and I was growing up going, is this real? Like it's kind of fun to
00:41:47
watch that stuff and then start to like it. No, I mean like some of the stuff he made he did like made like co Andy
00:41:55
Kaufman stuff looks I was going to bring up Andy Kaufman. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like him better than that. Yeah. He's what I he's what I call too funny.
00:42:05
Like sometimes you you you can't laugh, you laugh later. Like he did a oneman show. Was he playing George Washington or something? FDR. FDR. Sorry. Yeah.
00:42:16
And that's the kind of thing you're watching it. It's like it's so [ __ ] funny that you have you're laughing
00:42:22
later. You can't It's like there's so many like there's like he he does something where it's like there's
00:42:29
four funny things h different funny things happening at the same time almost. It's so like nutrient dense that you're
00:42:38
like you're processing it. Nutrient dense. is so pointedly passive aggressive about people self-right or self- congratulatory people doing one
00:42:50
man shows you know drippingly sarcastically aggressively paring that no that was like yeah that's his like big thing is like he thinks show
00:43:02
business is stupid and selfimportant ridiculous and it's like his whole thing is making fun of show business and it's like as
00:43:13
good of an actor as he is too, he's also he's doing great acting and then also making fun of acting. Kind of against the system. Yeah. Yes.
00:43:25
True rebel. Yeah. The funniest. I mean really he There was one time where it was this long bit. It was so hot and I was like in this table and my leg my
00:43:39
character's legs had been severed and they bu they built this apparatus and and they made me stay in the table and
00:43:45
it was too complicated to get out of the table and we're in this like [ __ ] warehouse in Santa Clarita where they're
00:43:54
like hosing in AC. It's not like meant to be filming in. Like I'm I'm already a sweaty guy and I'm sweating so much. And then and then he comes up. He's like, "You
00:44:08
smell like duty." And he made like he had the whole crew. He's like, "Everybody check out how much Brett smells like duty." And he had the whole crew and cast line up and smell
00:44:21
me. And then and I was laughing hysterically. And then uh this was an important moment in our friendship, I think. And then I went into my trailer later that day and
00:44:33
he had taken underwear and drawn with a magic marker brown in the ass. And I laughed so hard and it was like a test to see, are you going to like get upset about this? Are you going to think it's
00:44:46
funny? And because I thought it was funny, it made us get a lot closer. Well, he he sounds like a delight to
00:44:52
work with based on delight. a delight, but it was it was just like great. It was a spengali kind of way to get you to relax. I think so. I mean, we we had already
00:45:07
been doing so many like hostile bits and and stuff like that that I think he knew that I would
00:45:14
think it was funny. Yeah. Does it sound like abusive? Does that sound like abuse? No, I've I've heard Stranger Things. Uh
00:45:21
but my point is this. I I had to take that. Um, it's a it's eccentric. It it there's you'd have to be there. I'd have to be there in the moment to know if it was aggressive or funny.
00:45:33
Will decide. So, what you're saying is it's an it's a uncomfortable story. Yeah. Right. Well, I've got some Mickey Rooney stories that we'll save for the next
00:45:45
time we have you on. Yes. But no, I' I've worked with Chris on SNL and and Yeah, that that's him being funny. I don't I don't think Yeah, that's his sense of humor and he he knew that you
00:45:57
would think it was funny, too. Exactly. David, final final comment. I just did something with Chris and he was very mellow the whole time. So,
00:46:08
I think he I think he didn't think I was funny enough to rub my underpants. You think so? Uh, no. We weren't on the set long enough. We only did a day or two, but
00:46:19
definitely But if your your scenario was different, but he was perfectly fine. He got my dress. I was hosting SNL and he got the church like get up during rehearsal. It wasn't even in the sketch.
00:46:30
He came, oh, hey, that's special. I'm the church [ __ ] How are you? And then he threw a shoe at me. I said, Chris. And Lauren came in. Chris, please. Is
00:46:42
that just That's too far. All right. Thank you, Brent. I love that. Thank you, bud.
00:46:48
Oh, we're showing a quick photo before we leave. Oh, that's Look at that. Oh, wow. That is That's already funny.
00:46:55
The get up that you have on, Brett. It's funny already. Hot, too. I look really hot in that
00:47:02
picture. You You do look like you would be one of the YMCA guys. Like, you'd be another
00:47:08
character in that. Yeah. You know who I look like, Dana? if you could see me straight on Michael Douglas and Falling Down.
00:47:15
I have those kind of glasses on and uh but we just kind of [ __ ] around and it was a lot of laughs. At least the whole shoot was fun. It was really fun. But thank you, boss. Uh appreciate you
00:47:26
talking to us. Pleasure. Thanks, Brad. No, so great being on here. And uh I got to have you guys on my podcast sometime. What the hell is that? What's it called?
00:47:37
I do it with my wife. It's called Neurotica. Neurotica. Interesting. Yeah, my wife.
00:47:42
I'd be happy to I happy to come on. I have earbuds. I have a technical thing set up and I have an Echo set up in my room.
00:47:49
No, part of the thing on our thing is that it's technically uh a mess the whole time. We barely hear the Yeah, it
00:47:57
doesn't work. I think that's fine. Okay. Well, he just took off. Dana, you guys chatted a little bit after and uh we did a little bit. Yeah.
00:48:10
That was interesting how you guys were almost best friends. That was an interesting moment.
00:48:16
Yeah, we're going to pick it up. We're going to pick it up again. Yeah, because we had a good run that day on
00:48:22
the shoot. The old T-Mobile commercial they can't stop talking about. Uh, which they might bring back. And there's some whispers right now. Is it okay for me to say I would love to
00:48:33
see it? Is that Is that too much? I wonder if we get I don't know if we have a regular version of it, but we could
00:48:38
play it. Uh we'll we'll look into that. I'm sure it takes one Google search. I've noticed a pattern with some of our
00:48:45
guests that are doing very well in show business. A lot of a lot of uh a shucks, you know, sincere humility about it. So
00:48:52
yeah, that was that was kind of Brett in a way. I think that's people that he's like that anyway. And also he's
00:49:00
had the stuff that worked, didn't work, worked medium, worked a lot like everybody. So he's like on a big one and
00:49:07
it's pretty exciting. So I mean the most extreme in in my lifetime was Eddie Murphy essentially
00:49:15
right out of a high school senior. I guess he was 19 when he when he came out on SNL and it
00:49:21
just went 19. I mean, you made it at 20 20 and two months, and that was a lifetime beyond Eddie. 20 and two. No, I was grinding out for free drinks doing standup. Yeah.
00:49:33
You got a cameo in a movie, and then you went back to the grind of of opening. I like when they go, we if you go on,
00:49:41
you get two free drinks, but even that feels like too much. I don't remember working for alcohol. I honestly don't. Anyway, that's another story. Uh, this
00:49:52
is Brett and I'm glad you guys liked it. I hope you did and we'll see you next time. This was Brett and my name is officially
00:49:58
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