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okay I have a little observation right before I mean this is part of my judge hey Dave before we talk about our friend
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Mike Judge because I we now call him our friend great dude um do you accept cookies every time you see it
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because whoever thought of the phrase except cookies is a genius because really they should ask can we spy on you
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yeah can we spy on you but except cookies they take me right back to a 10 year old well [ __ ] yes I'm gonna accept
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some cookies I'll accept all cookies and more but do you sometimes go if I don't
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accept the cookies whatever I'm looking at won't be as good like it'll it just
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it'll take out the good parts they'll take out the good parts it won't be as
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good so I'll accept cookies and get the really good article no you know I do it
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on Instagram and it says oh just do you want to cookies it doesn't matter if you
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want cookies or not and I go no and they go okay bye and then you're just off the
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website you know I go well so it's sort of I I have to I think they should change it to how about a brownie and
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then you say yes or no hey how about a brownie well is it like a cookie yeah like instead of accept cookies how about
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a brownie and you go yes and then they spy they get legally Legally can Harvest your information and sell it to people
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all over the world they should say a brownie is a harvesting mechanism we spy on you while
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you're in the shower and while you're on your laptop and I go well that's fun I
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just want to read this article about uh you know trying to find the best route to drive to Big Fork Montana I don't
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need you counting on my personal details looking at my apps okay I just want to see pics of JLo's wedding nuptials
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go on with Affleck he's a doozy let me tell you that's that's uh that's forever
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I love those too all right so Mike Judge great guy here he comes uh sweetheart worked on SNL so there is a a wispy
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connection uh he did Milton yeah we get into that hard he did Beavis and butted for us which is great because he uh it's
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so cool to see him do in person I know because he he's unassuming and shy and
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sweet and then when he goes into Beavis and Butthead it's kind of magic yeah and
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then he did Hank from King of the Hill and his eyes were all rolling around I said and so just to see him do it and I
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told him it's just there's something about Beavis and Butthead that is endlessly funny it's kind of like a
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Tarantino movie just two idiots looking at hot dogs hot dogs it never doesn't make me laugh and it
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was so much fun to hear his process how he learned to draw how he did those voices what his influences were yeah and
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listen he's Rich if I had his money I'd throw mine away here he is Mike Judge
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why would you no you're fine why don't you ask Mom no gotta get rid of it like
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Danny said it's all comes down to paintings and planes carving in the end of the day you're at Hemingway's In
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Paris that's where Bill Gates goes all right but getting a Monet and on a G7 to
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a must cast a little more pricey that's that clinch jaw Dennis [Music] so why would you want to get out of
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California I mean was it the homeless and the regulations and taxes or or is it just like being gunned down in the
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streets I mean this place is like The Purge dude I see a guy in the street you know his pants around his ankle and he's
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screaming on my way to the grocery store it doesn't ding me it doesn't change how
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much time I see that I go why is his dick bigger than mine that's all I can think about they always have full heads
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of hair you know they have full a full head of hair and I can't [ __ ] I just I eat
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right and exercise you won in other ways it's like a day something about that creates fairness
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there's great hair and I go you know we're on camera live for Greg to see I
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thought it keeps Richards has all his right he didn't get hair plugs did he who Keith Richards I'm just thinking of
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like no no other junkies he went bandana like Nadal I've seen the French Open
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yesterday I was at the dentist and he's got the big bandana you can either be a
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pirate or a cowboy when you get older yeah the pirate would be aware even Tyler it's all distracting and it's all
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Jangles and may all that stuff and then the cowboy would be Jeff Bridges and Mickey Roar Just get rough and tumble so
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which one are you Mike I'm gonna have to go but I'm barely uh I just gotta wear a
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hat or something I know listen I do it too the hair thing it drives you crazy and then you go
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would you trade places with that homeless guy because he has great hair and then you think about it for a while
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you go well it's a push I always ask my friends because I try to understand the
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crisis and I go alone somewhere and you couldn't afford the rent would you move to a less expensive
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place 10 miles away would you pitch pitch a tent and uh no one has said picture dance so
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far well let's get to Mike haven't we been recording this whole time unfortunately yeah well the thing
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about what Mike and I were talking about David if you don't mind for a second
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yeah um we're just talking about integrity of shows or something I can't remember my
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voice over voice over he was asking us Dana has an animated show well not animated invisible voice it's a podcast
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like an old time radio show right right okay but we you know my sons and I and my their friend childhood friend we love
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the Twilight Zone so obsessed by it all the kids would watch it at my house because I had VHS and so this is
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basically our trying to bring that back a little bit you know so well he's a
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good place uh check it out kids Mike and I let's just start briefly because this
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is you guys you know sort of about SNL but we can always go away go into your other stuff because you have a million
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things uh so Mike and I met um goddamn I think you were gone were you gone when Mike came might have just
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missed them you might have just missed I met Mike when he visited the Wayne's
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World yeah visited oh yeah yeah Wayne's World two I think it was or wasn't it so
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I think it might have been one and uh yes I'm hoping I uh no super cool first time I'd ever been
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on a set um and then I met I think I first met you at the VMAs maybe or before it or
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something but you took me you're talking about when we I went to SNL I think
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because you went to SNL because you had a desk yeah well you and I'll thank you
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for that now you uh you kind of hooked me up I had to before the Beavis and Butthead short I had a one called office
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space that was the Milton and Lumberg which you showed to Lauren ah three more of them that weren't very
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good the fourth one was all right but uh for SNL and then you know eventually led
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to the movie later yeah yes uh I now did office space would jump around here but was it one of those ones
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that wasn't like a 100 million dollar movie and then it just lived on forever
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is a huge called Hit or was it yeah also a hit no it wasn't a hit at the box
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office but it was not at all it was uh but it didn't cost a lot of money the
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budget was 10 million I think um and uh what year was that came out in 99 okay and came in like
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sixth or eighth place or something opening weekend yeah I didn't and then yeah then but
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then a year or two later it started really like it was charting in the like the Blockbuster VHS
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that's where they make big money I mean Tommy Boy was not a huge hit and uh well
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it actually was not a good job they opened number one but they were both uh open number one at like 35 million where
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it wasn't like a mega monster no that's what they totally made Joe Dirt open Joe Dirt might have opened number
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one but it was still again it wasn't like a huge hit those are the ones that
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you really can't tell about a movie until five ten years later to see if it really sunk in because there's big ones
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that made more money that no one talks about so they they open big and fade out but I like when they stick around is
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there like about maybe 40 good movies all in the world well my wife and I at night were like Godfather again okay
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Sound of Music honey uh yeah we're really we watched eye as a needle with Donald Sutherland which is pretty cool
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but it's hard to find a great movie what I I was curious about is you're doing
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Beavis and Butthead coming out with a new movie yeah it just came out and then the news
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it's out already just straight to it was on Paramount plus yeah so what was it
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still there so it needs to be churned and talked about it but it wasn't you didn't have an opening weekend was that
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your first experience with that yeah it's weird um it's just out there yeah
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you just put it on the you plastic and there's no they don't you know they
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don't announce or publish any ratings or any data so you don't uh it was a New York
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Times critic pick um it's like 90 something percent on Rotten Tomatoes so it's Rotten Tomatoes
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Rotten Tomatoes are still around so that's I've gotten a couple of Threes in
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my small films yeah well that's I guess that's on the critic side and then the audience side is in
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the 80s maybe I don't know I should I should look it up but it's on Paramount
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plus right now yeah Paramount plus just wanna streaming on Paramount plus and Beavis and butt head take on the
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universe or what was it yeah it's called Beavis and butted do the universe that's pretty good
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[Music] oh yeah let's ask Mike if um back in the SNL days I think this is a rumor that
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maybe we started that that if we did her if you did a Beavis and Butthead movie that Adam and I would be Beavis and
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butted yeah we that was that was disgust yeah and but uh you know we ended up I mean they
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still when was it going to talk about uh yeah I think I I don't know how that
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I don't know how I don't remember at what point it was uh salary but yeah they probably asked for
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a [ __ ] ton of money but they got to back up the brink strike no I was you know
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Mike gave me a uh Beavis necklace do you remember this oh yeah the pewter there's a pewter's necklace because
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not because we're gonna do the movie Just because I thought Beavis but it was
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hilarious and uh he gave me this thing that was maybe one of a kind maybe it was his merch but either way I loved it
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and it was very nice so I wore it to and my buddy in town and they said Lauren or
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someone from the show said Kate Moss is having her birthday you guys would like to go down and say hi so do some version
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of that we uh I was with my buddy I don't think you went and uh no we went down it was our 21st birthday
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and so it's just like a party party I don't know her whatever and then they
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said oh go say hi to her so now we're forced together you know and everyone's
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looking go say hi to Kim and she's smoking a cig and uh too cool I'm just
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like hey uh explaining that I'm like a clown in America or whatever I do and
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she's very Posh yeah she was super cute and then she goes Beavis could you sell
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my necklace I go oh yeah I taught her like as a foreign country I go in America this is a and she's like right
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give it to me and I go give you give you this one it's my birthday this is a present to me and she goes
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give it and everyone's looking like what the [ __ ] you waiting for dude can we hear it what didn't she want oh
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she wanted the necklace yeah I thought she wanted you to do the character no she wanted a necklace she said give it
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to me yeah and she said it 10 times and they go it's her birthday and I go all
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right all right so I gave it to her yeah these models they're not entitled I know
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Johnny Depp she got whatever she wanted I was like need any cash for the cab so you gave it to her because I gave it to
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her and that was it at least she could have worn it in the photos that's pretty I guess it's bad I thought
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in my head I go Michael be glad at least she's wearing it because okay so I'm
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gonna compliment uh David Dave that was a great story yeah and Mike okay well anyway I am a fanatic there's millions
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of us for Beavis and Butthead and I was at the time doing Wayne's World but I
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honestly I have total appreciation for Wayne's World my thought [ __ ] that's funnier than what we're doing
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it's sort of similar you know well it because it's I don't know about it
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the abstraction of just two characters and I want to know how you got connected to them maybe you said it on other
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podcasts but just standing there and I guess looking at hot dogs and dogs for like a minute that kind of humor
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just really resonates with me it lasts right I could see it right now if you showed me 10 seconds of them he said
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balls I mean just that with no real I don't know how you describe that kind of he
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also got to watch videos right and then they make fun of the videos which is genius because that's what people do at
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home and it's it's yeah it but the rhythm of those guys I I know you probably but how did you and you're
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attached to them so completely and yet here you are kind of just Mike a regular guy but then the these characters come
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out of you it's just very it's like magic it's like a magic trick yeah I
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don't know like it I mean it's hard to I don't know as you know having done great characters like you
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don't know exactly where it comes from but like it but um with this I guess I was you know I'd
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done it was the fourth short I had done and um I don't know I just I'd drawn them and
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just look and I was trying to draw somebody completely different and it went a different way and I kept like I
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dropped how many drafts of things of butt head drunk it looks like they're not finished yeah yeah they're not
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finished that's the thing like I wanted I wanted them to actually and now I'm not a great
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animator at all I was just but but I I wanted them to look like they were drawn by a deranged 14
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year old or something like I wanted it to yeah and I also wanted like on the original Charlie Brown's I love the way
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pigpen just he was drunk he was kind of sloppy and messy and he had this like I was imagining butt head's hair like that
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and I don't know then once I drew them it just seemed like they just can't say
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anything clever yeah okay they're just like there was there were guys that kind
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of different people that I knew growing up in Albuquerque that just I was like are they really that dumb
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like yeah like rudimentary like can you read it all like what you know like and um
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yeah I don't know just sort of and and being you know I'd done this short
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called frog baseball and that's what started it all and uh I watched it today
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oh yeah oh good I think you could do that today you know just to intercept for just the Lo-Fi drawing of it or with
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the rudimentary drawing it just it it it's really kind of post-modern in a sense it's almost like Basquiat if
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you're familiar with him actually you know a childlike Brilliance and I love
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basket yeah I love his stuff like I I also he's on next week I also really draw like him like you know all the um
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National Lampoon I was really into all the the comics that were in there that like
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um buddy Hickerson uh Linda Berry well she was in Mary Kay Brown like a lot of these uh
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Mimi Pond all these great um what was the other guy Mark Merrick like but also I mean this is gonna say
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I'm not trying to at all compare myself to great artists but beavis's eyes I
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thought were like Picasso eyes you know I always wondered where those came from and that's such a specific choice and it
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gives the characters so much so they're like cats eyes that are slanted yeah
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like when I was when I was in high school I took a it was like a art uh history elective or
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something like that and and I used to just start drawing Picasso stuff in my notebooks this makes I don't draw very
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well I'm just sort of like I I was never like proud of what I draw but I would
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draw occasionally I would do a pretty good caricature of a teacher or something but yeah with Beavis I had his
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um yeah I kind of did Picasso eyes on him which none of the other characters in the show have it's like you know Mickey
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Mouse is Mickey Mouse but then all the side characters are like they had to commit to them
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I mean like the long jaw and the teeth of his butt head it's like yeah Beavis
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has that yeah and then Butthead has the gums yeah kind of thing yeah and I wanted to animate his mouth because like
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when you have braces like people when they're smiling they're they don't their
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corners of mouth don't really go up very unless it's a huge smile and yeah when
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you have braces you kind of go you're going like that all the time yeah he laughs his mouth is like going down when
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it became a show I had to just all these really animators way better than me I'd say no no they don't they
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don't laugh like they'd have them do shoulders up and like it's like no no
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that's not how they left they left you got to animate does it sound too high flute to say it's
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kind of what you're doing is Artistic because anyone could draw something real
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well like to draw surreal that creates the hole is greater than somebody yeah like an animation maybe there if it was
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a contest like who could draw the most perfect person but luckily it's not so
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it's like Simpsons look weird and you just picked a different sort of interesting look it doesn't have to be
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perfect but if you buy into it the voice match up then it's bought into it yeah
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well that's the thing also like I could have instilled to this day I mean the
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new movie like we have some incredible people worked on it that it looks pretty epic but Beavis and buttheads
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still look like themselves because anytime in the past we tried to clean it up or
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it just stopped being as funny you know um I think it's true like South Park
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there's just you know when those four characters it if it's if it got too fancy and sure was you know
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if you animated them 3D it just it's yeah South Park both being brilliant shows
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but this Lo-Fi I mean you look at Walt Disney's animation yeah yeah and then I
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don't know if you were one of the first but it seems post-modern it seems like
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it would be very hip now um just to have that kind of animation and then of course South Park went with
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sort of cardboard puppet animation yeah there's more of an animation yeah well I
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think I I was probably the first to have a mainstream cartoon like that but there
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were independent animators that were starting like the sky West Archer there was a lot of um actually Mary Kay Brown
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when The Simpsons she had shorts that were in this Tracy Allman show that I thought were amazing I think it's
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impossible to Google because the way it's called Dr nagatu and there's an
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exclamation point in the middle of her last name and uh but anyway there were there were people
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um doing it doing it like I wanted to I read National Lampoon and think man how come this stuff isn't animated like this
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kind of this this sensibility and this trial of drawing and so that's what I
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was trying to do when I was animating my my shorts is to try to can I ask you a technical question I think also led to
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the magic of it so Milton and the first you know frog and the whatever was amazing about that so you had a 16
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millimeter got a bolex But but so Milton is like moving there there's a there's a
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shimmering yeah yeah every every drawing well what I did with Milton if you want me getting the weeds here um
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our fans are mostly animators they call it a boiling yeah it's called a boil uh
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every every two frames is a new drawing okay what so so that way yeah um and then was it for time's sake or
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Finance sake or an actual artistic Choice it was to give it partly movement I would say I was a little artistic but
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really like I I uh I didn't have cells I did that with colored pencils and ink so
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to only move one part you need to sell back then you know you did an overlay I didn't hadn't tried working with that so
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I I had like a cut out like his desk as a overlay cut it cut around the corner of the cubicle you're drawing this thing
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and you got this camera I'm putting a new piece of paper underneath it every time and click and
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give it some click it to give it movement just like stuck Foundation claymation yeah click it you click it
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you go like click click just if it's when you yeah that one I shot on my bolex then when I I sold that one I
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don't know how much it cost me for the film and everything was like and for the
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camera like probably 700 bucks or something and and I sold it for I got two thousand dollars for it so
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I said okay next time I'm going to rent time on a camera and so I shot it on a
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better my later stuff that was the only one I shot on the bollocks I could see why SNL would love Milton yeah because
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it's uh we thought again it's like um doing uh whatever worker Be Working
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Class People what's their life like and the torture of being in the cubicle and
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the boss who's a dick you know when you do office space off of Milton first of
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all it must be hard to make Milton a real character and try to capture it but office space had so much more going on
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that Milton wasn't even that you got a whole great movie out of it without just
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going it's the Milton movie you know yeah well that's that's actually it
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started out Peter chernin at Fox saw those shorts and said this should be a movie and so it was going to be a Milton
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movie and I just kept I couldn't wrap my head around like like I don't kind of I don't want to
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know what he does at home I don't like I don't I don't I didn't see a whole movie
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centered on him so they had Writers come in and Pitch it nothing really landed and then
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then but they kept wanting something and then they said well what if you make it
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like an ensemble cast like the movie Car Wash and I said oh yeah that's now I guess
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comedy that probably wasn't even a term boring boring cubicles yeah but I was gonna animate like a
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series like vignettes of office characters like cubicle characters so so that's kind of what I if Beavis and
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Butthead hadn't happened that's what I was going to do next was more well it
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was nice it's almost like an indie filmmaker doing a film low budget in one location because the cubicle is very
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simple but super effective you had the guy yes the guy at the door that was it yeah a lot a lot of them
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um what would Mike say David well because a lot of times you get on MTV or Comedy
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Central and you're a victim of the budget so it's so the budget is so low
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that South Park makes them look cardboard because that's all they can do and and then you know so you can't make
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it so professional and then indirectly it just sort of turns into a hit because of the uh not cheapness but
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you know always makes it yeah there's a charm to the charm to it yeah you can't
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you animation now or at least a few years ago would be like okay rap uh we'll get it out in three years we'll
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see you guys yeah that was a great read love y'all see you in 2027. so I think
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part of obviously uh South Park has a can I go back to a 2001 question oh sure sure so when the monkey gets the bone
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what go with this go with this Mike and David yeah the monkey gets the bone right oh is this a movie 2001 yeah I'm
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referring to the monkey going ah because the model has put the thought so it's
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like going like this going like this and then it starts hitting stuff using it as
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a weapon and there's that moment of creativity so I'm thinking of Mike young
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Mike does these two goofy characters rudimentary Van Gogh Basquiat and then wherever you're gonna draw from with the
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monkey with the bone it's like what do these two guys sound like and I don't
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know if it was over time or an epiphany but the voices are so peculiar so rich and so bizarre so where'd they come from
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and if you don't have an answer David will answer no I do have an answer for
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well so Beavis actually so when I the guy that I was trying to draw was absolutely
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nothing like Beavis he's actually an engineer now and he was a straight A student and it was a funny name he's a
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brilliant guy he was not named Beavis and he was he in fact he was super nerdy and we had a
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in Calculus class he sat in the front and I remember I was like you can cut the story down if it goes too long but I
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love it I had no one had ever heard of a hot teacher like it just didn't happen
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and and this friend of mine's coming down the hallway and goes have you seen
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the new math teacher oh my God whatever but she was like a former Dallas Cowboys
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Cheerleader and and she was really beautiful and he sat in front of class and he was so wound up like he was just
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he'd constantly be biting his living room and he'd be laughing at everything she
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said she wouldn't even wouldn't even be funny she'd say okay and then this is an
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easier way to do it explaining allergies and he was always kind of looking back and so can I hear that advice one more
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time so you but he was sitting next to him and observing I'm sitting in the back
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and me and this other guy hysterical Bob McCarthy and then my other friend Mike sidibaca we I started imitating him like
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he would do it then I'd be in the back I'd go man and then they started doing
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it and the teacher sheep what's her name she got really pissed and chewed chewed me out one time like shoot
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us all out because we just kept doing that and and then like just she got really emotional and I
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was like apologized and everything then she turns around the chalkboard and my friends
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won that in the front row he was doing that to repress his absolute horniness for the teacher that's what I seemed
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like yeah he was just so wound up and when you did it for your friends did he talk or was just that one song it was
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just the same all I would do was the laugh okay so but he didn't really talk
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like Beavis but I I was trying to draw him when I ended up drawing Beavis and Butthead they were both attempts to draw
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him and it was kind of going a different way but I thought they looked funny and
00:27:01
for some reason I drew Beavis with a lighter in his hand and I was just imagining him
00:27:08
excited like it's just a scary um like there there had been this uh this guitar player with Delbert
00:27:16
McClinton who um he had I used to be a musician but I remember he just was looking at some guy and he said boy he'd
00:27:22
start a fire [Laughter] this was a little like pyro yeah like a little his little pyro which got us into
00:27:30
trouble and then butthead I didn't die so you're a scientist and a musician
00:27:36
but so I just I just was looking at the drawing and just um thinking like what would he
00:27:42
sound the idea of someone just laughing all the time I hadn't I'd seen it um
00:27:46
like there was a Mimi Pond cartoon in uh National Lampoon where she just had this
00:27:52
weirdo getting on a bus and he's just going like it just was written it's
00:27:55
always kind of and I thought that was kind of funny like the idea that there was another there was a something else
00:28:00
I'd read in National Lampoon they just described some guy that just had a dumb
00:28:04
laugh and I don't know I just it just seemed right and I wanted them to just
00:28:09
be laughing all the time and barely talking and just deranged idiots it's like the last that's when it talks
00:28:15
well yeah Beavis barely said anything at first I thought I was thinking a brain fried guy who just yeah
00:28:29
yeah the first one of those was uh them watching like uh I had to watch a Barry White video
00:28:41
yeah like the horniest but one of the charms of it and Wayne's World had it a
00:28:45
little bit but was that they see they're generally having so much fun like the
00:28:50
two losers in town they're having more fun anybody in the town yeah yeah it's
00:28:54
by the way my my daughter's uh like Wayne's World a lot more than Beavis and buttheads really my son
00:29:01
wanted to come meet you uh totally changed my life blew my life beats about it the movie all of it blew my mind wow
00:29:09
this life stayed the same oh Wayne's World yeah that wasn't so funny dad
00:29:20
[Music] I like that Mike used to did you program F-18 Hornet Jets and then you go I might
00:29:27
switch I I worked on uh I didn't well I I worked yeah my first engineering job
00:29:32
was uh yeah that was an electronic test engineering for the uh uh yeah it was F-18 was it was a fun all very boring
00:29:43
except for F-18 I guess like I wasn't out on the tarmac like I was in a cube
00:29:47
you were basically Mavericks so you're a science whiz in high school and college
00:29:52
and you worked yeah I was good at you know I could do when did you get down do you know how to find the base of an
00:29:57
isosceles triangle yeah most communities at school and I've never met him they're not that many
00:30:08
um there's there's a few there's a couple Simpsons writers that have
00:30:11
there's one I think George Meyer well there's some Harvard David S Cohen and
00:30:15
uh who's Ken Keeler I think is his name has a I think he's got a PhD or something yeah there's no well you were
00:30:21
a science kid and everything but you were you also like doing voices and making people laugh yeah I did I did
00:30:27
imitations a lot yeah from I started started realizing I could do them in high school
00:30:32
I think I peaked my senior year in high school I was were they have famous people or not that's the thing it would
00:30:37
have they were all just teachers and classmates they didn't do anybody famous
00:30:41
I I'm kind of still that way I don't I I don't know I guess like uh I can I can do yeah it's like people I
00:30:51
know and if occasionally if it's a famous person I know I can do them but I don't I like often do them I don't know
00:30:56
why that's the same thing if you do a depression of a friend and then that friend becomes famous and now it's not a
00:31:03
character it's an impersonation right but if it's not knowing church lady was
00:31:06
just teachers I knew Garth was my brother you know I remember reading that yeah absolutely and he he's a lives in
00:31:13
Albuquerque for years ABQ yeah with Amiga computers early night oh yeah first Like Home Video Toaster the home
00:31:28
video recording system for people want to yeah videos at home wasn't that like early 80s or something
00:31:35
or even older well no it might have been might have been mid 80s mid 80s yeah maybe yeah he I wore a toaster t-shirt
00:31:43
as in Wayne's World 2 as Garth underneath the thing is that why he was in Albuquerque was there because Mr
00:31:50
Capital One you know he was in Silicon he was in Silicon Valley another place in one of your shows uh Microsoft moved
00:31:57
to uh Albuquerque just his wife was going for a masters at the University of New Mexico and he just worked from there
00:32:04
and so he still works at Sandia Labs now he's an engineer okay yeah that's what I
00:32:09
was wondering if yes India I have an office space David um office space had Aniston in it too yeah
00:32:19
right Jennifer Aniston she's great what was she like she's just very funny very
00:32:25
good she was great the whole thing was great I heard good comedy TGA Fridays lost their flare because that did you
00:32:31
read that yeah they well they they publicly tweeted that it wasn't because of office space but uh a waiter waitress
00:32:38
whatever you uh told uh my the second ID told me that that she asked someone at TGI Fridays about that and they said
00:32:48
after that movie Office Space we we ditched the flare the flare but uh yeah that was something I I had I had in the
00:32:56
script uh I had the line about um we're not in Kansas anymore and uh then this this writer Brent Forster I was
00:33:05
working with he he was in Austin and he worked on King of the Hill and he was staying at a hotel next to TGI Fridays I
00:33:14
said hey if you get a chance can you go like I was too chicken [ __ ] to just I don't know I didn't want to like I I
00:33:19
said can you just ask them because clearly they don't they don't wear those
00:33:23
because they want to I mean all those all those buttons must be and I was just curious like well everyone has them and
00:33:30
do they you know do they tell you you have to have a certain number or whatever and
00:33:35
and then he was about to to get the car to the airport and I said hey did you ever did you ever get to TGI
00:33:41
Fridays and goes oh yeah yeah they're they're actually called pieces of flair
00:33:44
and you have to wear 15 of them and you and I was like oh my God how long have you been sitting on this
00:33:50
juicy one and so then we started riffing on that stuff and I was a very last minute ad all those
00:33:57
but but that was to give because when casting her enabled that kind of made the studio relax more about casting all
00:34:05
these unknowns or semi unknowns so King of the Hill also just didn't say she was
00:34:10
also smart to go my son's favorite and I remember they they liked the Simpsons
00:34:14
they fell in love with South Park later but it was always King of the Hill really well always what what the ghost
00:34:21
star are you doing I mean that guy you know yeah that had another magic charm to it I mean it's famous right it's huge
00:34:28
yeah that was a I mean it's it's something that was one of my that was it
00:34:32
right yeah Hank was a combination of imitations of um there was a guy in my paper route me and my brother had a
00:34:39
paper out and uh he was our first time collecting he uh the black thing is yeah you go at the end of the month you'd
00:34:47
collect oh did it yeah and he thought we were like he's he said uh he was always
00:34:53
out in his front yard with a beer just like drinking real slow and I love those he was like uh he he said uh well you
00:35:00
ain't my paper that guy quit and we're the new paper boys said well I know what my paper boy
00:35:09
looks like and you ain't him and then he he uh said yeah we're not saying his face
00:35:17
his eyes are getting very big but he does yeah he had that kind of Sorrow looking around yeah and he brings his
00:35:23
wife over so Marcy come here is that the paper boy they ain't the paper boy I
00:35:29
said no we're not saying we're that guy and then um we said well we're going to have to
00:35:35
cancel your papers well I'm going to get the paper when the real paper Boy comes
00:35:40
if that's because you're collecting which is uh yeah in uh to the audience
00:35:46
that's what the enemy you go get the money for the paper right because my buddy said I'd go with him oh yeah oh
00:35:52
you did that in Arizona yeah do the paper then you got to go do the collecting which was the hard part you
00:35:57
hit him up for the cash at the end of the month you get up at 4 4 30. but you yeah this show was so Charming
00:36:06
because it wasn't political it wasn't violent it was small town charms small
00:36:10
town stories which isn't real it's hard to get that right though yeah and make
00:36:15
it funny really um yeah when we had some great writers and it but it was uh Greg Daniels is
00:36:21
Greg yeah Ultra learn krinsky we had we had some really great people on that um and it was yeah it was just like uh
00:36:31
kind of down home you know like uh because the Simpsons was was so I love The Simpsons but you know
00:36:38
they're going into outer space yeah Whimsical taking advantage everything you can do in animation yeah I chose to
00:36:44
not take advantage of any of that but uh yours might as well benefit yeah well that's was the way I stood out but let
00:36:51
me ask you a question so you're you're drawing the main characters and you you
00:36:54
kind of in your head have an idea how they sound and then it's a series so are
00:36:59
you passing out other voice there's other voice actors in there you're doing
00:37:02
like three or four of them I just did I did Hank and Boomhauer the guy who talks
00:37:07
gibberish and and that was pretty much it how does Boomhauer sound again uh that was sort of that was based on a I
00:37:12
have told the story on it but it was based on a couple different uh things but the one that I would go to the guy
00:37:19
when Beavis and Butthead was going um I didn't have an assistant like for the first year of it and and you could
00:37:26
anyone could call I guess and get my um my voicemail and somebody had called complaining about the show and it was
00:37:33
just like just hillbilly deranged dude and he thought the name of the show was Porky's
00:37:38
butthole and the call I still have it uh it's he goes uh well I've been calling
00:37:45
y'all a better month now grab about y'all remember time that dangle freaking
00:37:48
off loot Tunes come on you put on with Daniel pogi's freaking old butthole and
00:37:52
uh and I couldn't just let you go you're going to sell drop them commercial damn
00:37:56
day we got on kids to poke his butthole yo yo and he's just like I couldn't he
00:38:03
seems to be complaining also that it's also because they would start the show
00:38:06
like two minutes off or early to get people who are Channel flipping so he's
00:38:11
saying like y'all make three minutes late and last time going three minutes late next time you deal with the job
00:38:16
name of pokey's butthole so you pick up I don't know how you get that out of yeah Beavis and butted I
00:38:24
just think it's like cartoons Looney Tunes Porky yeah right like really insecure guy right
00:38:32
like we do have fun and everything right that'd be cool right he's trying to see
00:38:36
right I base it on him but I exaggerated it like oh is it yeah that might sound like was it before he was famous no I
00:38:45
just took it from it was three idiots in the scripted podcast the ones the Marine
00:38:48
linger and goes what do you think you think Cloud's like a baby yeah it's
00:38:52
pretty experience right so that was it's basically you take the source material of that in your
00:39:02
case and then you just extrapolate it out and exactly funny version yeah like Yeah Joe Dirt sound
00:39:09
like me yeah yeah hey boys we're gonna stand there owning a firework stand yeah
00:39:19
and tell me you don't got no Roman candles you were like the first person to really do the the mullet redneck yeah
00:39:28
that was the first kind of movie no I think it was uh it was accepted because I wasn't making fun of the South really
00:39:35
I was actually the guy was super charge guy yeah and for once I wasn't sarcastic
00:39:40
yeah no he was the hero yeah I was trying really hard to get through life and something about that clicked with
00:39:47
people that I mean there's no other explanation I think likability goes a long way I think yeah you know Joe Dirt
00:39:54
was just a likable character and it didn't [ __ ] on the south or make fun of
00:39:57
it it didn't wink he was sincere yeah looking for his parents and bullied and
00:40:01
a lot of people are bullied and so when you get yeah you see that you're a great
00:40:05
name I love it so when you're when you're casting other people then you show them
00:40:20
the some animation and some ideas or you let them look at it or how to how do you
00:40:24
get them and when you're so connected we what we did uh it was um yeah that was
00:40:29
the first time I really cast something and we had standees of the drawings okay so I mean my drawings
00:40:38
are were very well still are like very crude drawings and when you blow them up to that size they look even cruder like
00:40:45
the shaky pen but we had we had these cutouts and I would I wouldn't look at the actors I
00:40:51
would look at the drawings when when they win yeah so they oh so they're in and you're looking just at the standard
00:40:58
it doesn't matter what they're yeah what they look like yeah what they look like
00:41:01
or what they're doing with their face or how famous or anything it's just not the
00:41:04
yeah so you hear the voice and you're looking at the thing without looking at
00:41:07
them and then yeah you do to Eureka moment I mean how many auditions before apart
00:41:12
um quite a few I mean they'd narrow it down and Greg and I would uh listen to
00:41:16
you know like the the final ones but yeah yeah it definitely like I think where animation
00:41:22
goes wrong a lot of the times especially when they're when they're trying to cram celebrities
00:41:27
in is that that there's that thing where this the sum is greater than the parts
00:41:32
but you know where the voice and the drawing come together in a way that's that just fires on all cylinders and
00:41:39
yeah so I would you know I would look at that and like when Steven root read I mean Steven Roots also just naturally
00:41:45
funny like a lot of them like you all are but he but like he uh that clicked and then the one that we had a little
00:41:52
bit of a because we were talking earlier about the celebrity thing was the character Dale which Johnny Hardwick was
00:41:58
one of the writers in a stand-up comedian I think you know him way back yeah and he was one of the writers and we had
00:42:04
him read and it just fit that like it was just something popped yeah and you know there was a lot of they wanted they
00:42:11
just kept pitching celebrities doing the voice and none of them really not there yeah
00:42:19
actors it just doesn't fit the drawings it doesn't really it doesn't seem to
00:42:22
help that much like yeah for three seconds there are so many movies that have famous people and
00:42:31
especially in the 90s that like after Toy Story it was like you have to have a big star dude oh yeah there's so many
00:42:37
failed huge budget animated movies have failed with huge stars and nothing against the stars but they just it's
00:42:44
like it's like you get this famous person and this animated this designer and there's no thought of putting a of
00:42:50
how it all clicks together you know yeah that happens a lot I mean sometimes there is it just needs when I did that
00:42:56
uh the Llama movie you had a big well the Amber's new group yeah that was uh
00:43:01
yeah I remember going in at work and they said that one I love that one they said yeah
00:43:06
my only good reviews uh and you're playing a llama I'm a llama well it was
00:43:11
the prince and the Pauper the first uh Mike might know a little bit of this because he's in that world but it was a
00:43:18
big Disney movie I think uh Michael eisner's that probably was running it so
00:43:22
I get brought in I was doing just shoot me and um I played as Prince and Owen Wilson who's your buddies uh our buddy
00:43:28
is playing the uh I think it was a popper so it was basically going to be we switched bodies or we switch lives
00:43:35
I'm the the queen is Carla Gugino so I think those are the three people that
00:43:40
had Windows voice of the she would no no so we do it for a year and a half and I'm doing the voice and it was such
00:43:47
an it was before you got paid so it was just an honor Ed so yeah I literally was making like a
00:44:00
little over scale and I so after a year and a half I go hey guys is that a wrap like do you got it and uh because you
00:44:06
know they give you pieces of the script so after a year and a half they show an animatic to Michael Eisner and he
00:44:13
he doesn't like it and they're already Millions into it and they say uh what else what else could
00:44:19
this studio executive and they and they said we had another idea where he goes I
00:44:24
sort of like the sarcastic Prince and he goes what about which is me and he goes what about that he they had an
00:44:31
idea that I turned into a llama or something is yeah do that one and so another year and a half we had to change
00:44:36
everything again and do it all over by the end I didn't want to even go in anymore I go I don't know what we're
00:44:40
doing we're just ad-living riffing doing stuff and when I saw it I was thinking
00:44:44
about my head this is going to be a disaster and it was it made me laugh I thought it was so funny I go yeah God
00:44:49
these guys are good they know how to do it well they made it work you know it looked cool it was a slightly different
00:44:54
look it was one of the first uh see Dana wouldn't notice he would know that I
00:44:57
would just go look at the funny pictures well my daughter had when she was like eight or nine I think she had there was
00:45:04
a full oh sorry there's a full page ad for it in the in a magazine that she had
00:45:09
pulled out and stuck on her wall oh because you want to see it yeah because it was like but it just had a different
00:45:14
had a cool design I thought it was like it didn't look like the typical Disney
00:45:19
from what I remembered like they finally started to do something a little different and it was so fun to do
00:45:23
because I I can't even give myself the credit because I would make up jokes and
00:45:26
give me jokes but it was more they have so much going on around the story with the animation that they make everything
00:45:32
funnier and better you know what I mean like even in Hotel Transylvania everything it doesn't read as funny and
00:45:37
then when you see them do it they know what they're doing so no it just adds to
00:45:40
jokes so much it can go wrong so many ways so it works it works I I actually read for an animated TV show once and uh
00:45:48
I think I blew blew it because I came into the audition and they said Mike's
00:45:51
looking at the standee you can come in now Mike is looking away well let's ask Mike if he met Lauren and
00:46:06
if he did you ever have to meet Lauren and sit with him and talk to you yeah and when did you get the call that snls
00:46:11
yeah you use Milton oh so well I first met Lauren actually when I visited your set I was I was on the way I was that
00:46:17
was my first hello Hollywood flying me out and then you came to the set yeah yeah so I met like a bunch of Studio
00:46:24
Executives and they're all like kind of really like friendly and yeah we love
00:46:29
your stuff and you know all that yeah yeah and uh I'm like oh my God Lauren Michael's I'm gonna meet him this is
00:46:34
going to be amazing and uh that's it's like oh he's not ready yet why don't you go visit the set
00:46:39
that's where I met you and then right was that character I think I was yeah yeah it was amazing you had the Garth up
00:46:46
fit on but but like then I go in and Lauren was in such a foul mood oh no oh my God like and I was just like did I
00:46:54
piss him off or something like that but he was nice producer stuff but I was like he must do something something must
00:47:00
have just happened to budget thing we need the AMC Pace they're like [ __ ] yesterday
00:47:06
uh who is it Mike yeah so what was that like I mean I was I was Starstruck I mean it was such a huge SNL fan and um
00:47:16
but then then I met Spade here shortly after and and I think you would turned him on to the Milton cartoons and then
00:47:25
and then it was back in New York I went I went to SNL and met with him and um and Jim Downey I think Jim Downing yeah
00:47:32
the great but yeah that was that was uh they gave me a office I mean I was in the thick of it with Beavis and Butthead
00:47:38
so I I was yeah I don't think you're in the office that much right because you
00:47:41
just had one in school to come by and see see all you guys like Norm was a Norm Macdonald was a writer at the time
00:47:47
right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you don't say it's a norm you just have
00:47:56
a guy going what why is he called Milton you know I mean put him in a cubicle right we could
00:48:04
always find a word and repeat it and just make it funny by repeating it like he'd probably get amazing he's in a
00:48:10
cubicle right that's where you're working Norm's genius so you're you're part of
00:48:18
the team you're making Milton it's your only job to make Milton is that what it
00:48:22
was is it is yeah and they uh but they gave me an office there and uh yeah at one point
00:48:29
Lauren got really then he quickly he was quickly very nice but I I I had I mean I sort of get I I'd
00:48:41
sent a storyboard for two more Milton cartoons and I just hadn't heard back from anybody or something I don't know
00:48:47
it happens and uh I was called into his office and he he was just like what is going on what where are these cartoons
00:48:56
and I was like oh sorry I was waiting for I think he wanted me to be more proactive and it was a huge opportunity
00:49:02
and I think he thought maybe I was blowing it off or something like that but he was then he was very very nice
00:49:07
and always was yeah I did I did three of three new ones for over the did you not
00:49:13
like him as much because it was a new crew working on him or did you do them on your own I finished I did it with two
00:49:20
just two animators and me and we had to work on weekends and uh I I didn't really have the chance to edit them as
00:49:29
much as I would have liked to I don't know that but I did it did give me a chance to kind of develop the Lumberg
00:49:35
character that Gary played in the movie where he's doing you know like the yeah
00:49:40
um all that stuff yeah that means no and uh so it was but but like the fourth one
00:49:49
I remember liking and I you know I used some of that uh material in the actually
00:49:53
office space I think is a SNL gets a credit in it maybe land does or something yeah
00:50:00
is it possible that I could get maybe you know it's an association just wet the beak a little bit yeah I just want
00:50:07
to taste [Music] so Mike so you're very observant I would suspect that you would probably
00:50:22
create a character based on us I mean if they said that Lauren called you you'd
00:50:28
be dated fly on the wall but just animated if I could get you guys to play those characters and do a podcast we are
00:50:35
so busy I like your career I like you know Silicon Valley it's just it's
00:50:42
generally a guy your sensibility is infused with things and uh it's a very safe bet to drive they ever back up a
00:50:52
Brinks truck to you like and you knew it was a shitty idea but a generational well if you you know
00:50:58
someone needs an operation and you so you must have said no a lot after Beavis and Butthead you had [ __ ]
00:51:04
you money or whatever or success screw you so what kind of yeah what kind of deals came to you without throwing
00:51:10
anyone under the bus that you just said no thank you you know I I yeah there was a few I mean there was a
00:51:18
I said yes to some stuff that thankfully didn't go on but really well the first I
00:51:24
mean let's look at a club not to throw too many yeah well unfortunately some script Pages uh there was a summer
00:51:33
camp movie and I never went to summer camp my parents didn't know summer camp
00:51:36
no it was like yeah well that's what this was like then that was the first thing that was offered me and I I said
00:51:43
yes it was like it was enough it was a offer to write and direct a summer camp movie
00:51:50
um does sound fun though and yeah and I I said yes and then um I shouldn't say the title but I but I
00:51:57
was like I did the best I could for that concept and uh he wrote and directed it
00:52:02
no I didn't no we never no I wrote and then they I wrote an outline and then
00:52:06
they got a writer to work on a script and then it just kind of sat in development for a long time and I I was
00:52:12
uh Ike's I passed on it based on the script like I was on your own script you
00:52:17
didn't the one who written yeah let's guess the title I'm going to say
00:52:24
summer nights David I want to say uh Camp let's [ __ ] it's uh it you couldn't
00:52:32
possibly guess what it is maybe I should just say it at this point uh it could have been a good movie I will say Mike
00:52:38
as it has a has a high slugging percentage because all these there you have so many things that did work that
00:52:45
no one hears about that stuff and you also have a way to make boring funny I mean to say office space is like a dull
00:52:52
boring office and we're gonna make but fun genre basically it's hard to make
00:52:57
that dry stuff that's so boring not be just boring well uh yeah I mean the office did it later
00:53:04
uh Ricky Gervais was doing Gary Shanley was around doing stuff like that and you
00:53:08
were yeah I was a big fan of Larry Sanders Larry Sanders yeah that that sort of that might have influenced me some but I
00:53:17
was also just like um I don't know I liked well the um I keep mentioning Mary Kay Brown her
00:53:26
shorts the DR nagatu had had a quality to him like one of them is just like she's at lunch with someone and
00:53:33
there's this kind of vase on the table in the middle of him that just keeps getting in the way it's like one of
00:53:39
those really relatable like yeah like do you move it I was like wow that's you
00:53:43
don't see that in animation that's really really cool but but yeah there is
00:53:49
you know I mean Seinfeld had been on for a while at that well not when I did the
00:53:52
shorts but when the for the movie and but yeah I mean the studio they were very gung-ho and then when they started
00:53:59
seeing the dailies and going like wait this is just a boring cubicle stuff you got to move the camera around you got to
00:54:04
do something here this is horrible it's like okay was that your first directing live
00:54:12
action yeah that's scary as [ __ ] oh it was so that's a commitment thing then
00:54:17
when you're editing it and you're doing that compression humor of like holding
00:54:21
the awkwardness yeah where the Studio's gonna want can you pop it around kid
00:54:24
yeah yeah it was it was uh yeah actually they were really down on it until the first test screening and it was getting
00:54:33
big laughs I mean it didn't score very high because it didn't have like the big
00:54:37
emotional kind of ending maybe that it didn't have you know right Tom Hanks or
00:54:42
whoever but but uh it had that Medium kind of like on the cards there's like
00:54:47
excellent very good and good and good counts the same as horrible like so right yeah
00:54:55
top two boxes that means great or really great or something and like the top two
00:55:01
if you get if you get like 75 of the top two that's a horrible score like you
00:55:07
have to really like yeah you got to really you gotta be yeah it's like and office space was like
00:55:13
there's like 78 or maybe even one of them like 80 in those top two but like the the good most of them were in
00:55:21
the good there weren't a lot of if you look at that yeah how did you feel at that screen when you
00:55:26
saw it well before going into it it was I was sick to my stomach literally like I was like
00:55:32
I'd worked in a movie theater when I was just the ticket tearing minimum wage job
00:55:35
and I remember thinking like God I wish I was just someone working in a movie theater right now and this we we dropped
00:55:40
we tested yeah screened it yeah up in Westlake Village outside of L.A but I was but then once the audience started
00:55:47
laughing and I was like okay thank God this is like because I had like I don't
00:55:51
think any the editors didn't think it was funny out of the studio it was funny
00:55:55
like too much and then you need that fresh audience yeah and I don't know like um
00:56:00
yeah it was it was very uh I was that was the most stressed out maybe like especially when I don't know if
00:56:06
you've experienced this but like you know I'm writing it oh cool I'm gonna
00:56:10
make a movie and then all of a sudden [ __ ] there's 18 wheelers and trailers
00:56:14
and construction people building coming up to you going this color this color I'm just like oh God I'm what if this is
00:56:20
something that just me and my brother and a couple friends think is funny and that's all and there's all these poor
00:56:26
people construction people working and drivers Whispering sounds like a piece of [ __ ] yeah yeah
00:56:34
oh God what's this guy goes is there any funny parts I go because we're shooting it down yeah he's
00:56:42
like smoking a cigarette I broke it he's like oh I'm sure it all Cuts together I go oh yeah oh God it's
00:56:50
such a horrible feeling I remember the we'd put all the cubicles in this place
00:56:54
we were shooting and and the first rehearsal with Gary Cole and Ron Livingston and it's just like yeah if I
00:57:03
could go ahead and get that you know he's it's a slow scene and I'm just me
00:57:06
standing there and you're like you're looking down and there's a couple
00:57:09
construction people over there kind of going they're getting bored can I get out of this like this can I
00:57:18
quit yeah I had one I had a preview once I won't even say what it is it was so
00:57:23
bad you couldn't even make sense of it it was it was it was a screen like a test screening even if my manager was
00:57:29
was going like this everyone's getting lonely yeah I'm flying way down I
00:57:34
couldn't even make any sense of it it's just a unbelievable mess and then it was
00:57:39
Herculean effort to get it released but and what were you like did they do the thing afterwards do you because the
00:57:45
audience probably recognizes you right if you didn't matter it was it was weird
00:57:48
we were in like D Minor so it was like the lowest score it was like a three or something you know because they do that
00:57:54
thing where they get 20 people yeah and and you know like you stand behind them and I remember with the
00:58:02
moderator she just goes who's heard of Mike Judge and and like I don't know
00:58:07
like maybe like 15 of the 20 people raised their hand and what do you think of him and I just got I got up and left
00:58:13
yeah I don't need to be put on drugs I figured it out that the moderator with
00:58:17
the 20 people controlled the score so after three screenings yeah was that the moderator so I started hanging out with
00:58:23
him I rewrote the questions for him yeah and I was like John Rhythm and stuff and
00:58:28
and so then it came up to like a 90. it shouldn't have been released but by I
00:58:32
manipulated it should never have been released but it got released I saw one on Diggy Roberts that said uh I
00:58:38
generally don't like David Spade but this was pretty good and and the girl gave it to me she goes look at this and
00:58:44
I go why would I want to see that and she goes that's it that's Dickie Roberts you had Joe Dirt yeah but
00:58:54
they were low budget so they all made money yeah they all made money they quietly make Paramount 50 to 100 million
00:59:02
videos they'd make 60 million on me yeah it was such a great racket yeah because
00:59:06
they didn't cost much to make wait was was PCU no that was before that was my
00:59:10
first one that was um with Jeremy Piven yeah that was early what about wait what
00:59:15
was what was the other Jerry Tommy Boy and what was the other black sheep Oh Black Sheep Tommy Boy that was a smash
00:59:21
that one really lives on it lives on yeah yeah people yeah that one thing it's just grows and grows it seems like
00:59:27
so yeah that's good well uh do you have any more all right Hank down so good
00:59:33
when I was watching that with my kids yeah you got them down um thank you Mike Mike Judge was our
00:59:39
guest today Mike was great thank you guys we didn't eat too long we got him an hour it's really really fun I
00:59:45
appreciate it and uh you're as nice as they say you are I don't very talented very cool uh I'm
00:59:54
assuming and an incredible Observer of humans you live here and Austin is that because I was in Austin yeah I've been
01:00:01
actually I moved back there pretty much full time like a year and a half ago yeah people people dig Austin I liked it
01:00:07
it's too hot in the summer we went there we we do a live podcast we did a live
01:00:10
podcast yeah yeah we'll be there recently yeah yeah we're there with a guy named um James Austin Johnson from
01:00:17
we drove by your house and beeped yeah um all right we'll get him out here thank you Mike peace out all right thank
01:00:22
you guys thank you Mike hey what's up flies what's up fleas what's up people that listen we want to
01:00:28
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01:00:44
questions from our lovely questions we don't have a theme no yeah maybe we have cage a man do it we got a question
01:00:53
uh hey David and Dana my name is Ali I'm 17 year old oh I like she's watching
01:00:58
from Georgia um I wanted to know which album you'd want to be a fly on the wall when it was
01:01:03
written I know what Dana's answer is okay let's guess let's play a little
01:01:06
game here guess I'm gonna guess I'm gonna say either The White Album Sergeant Pepper or Rubber Soul I don't
01:01:16
know it's one that rotates oh it is an album that rotates and it's named after that [ __ ] revolver revolver
01:01:25
God I was close with Beatles it's very close I listened to the whole Canon of
01:01:30
The Beatles when they remastered it and I re you know I rediscovered Ringo's
01:01:33
drumming as genius and Paul's bass playing because you could hear the bottom of the Beatles And as I went
01:01:39
through the whole Canon I don't really have a favorite but revolver just pops
01:01:43
for me there's a raw I mean you know it's I'm Only Sleeping is the first song
01:01:48
and go okay what what's the second one uh Eleanor Rigby [ __ ] you know we had a
01:01:54
few Tunes we sat we sat across from each other we put her face in the job on the
01:02:00
door it sounded funny you know that's how we did it yeah so good God damn Yeah because sometimes you
01:02:06
have fresh ears with music like you're hearing it again because I used to listen music when I started in a
01:02:12
beatable 62 Volvo so when you get older and get a decent stereo you go oh there was a guitar in that song you know
01:02:19
because I can't hear it it's all my tweeters I have a Bauer Wilkins because
01:02:23
to me a car is about getting me from point A to point B safely and then what can I listen to because that's where I
01:02:28
listen to music I have a bower Wilkins maybe they could be our sponsor but I'm
01:02:32
hearing music for the first time I heard Tiny Dancer by Elton John and it's a six
01:02:38
minute Masterpiece I had no idea it's like I'd never heard it before okay
01:02:42
I thought you said lay me down cause she's a winner I said that until I was [ __ ] 48 and
01:02:50
then it was uh which is last time I knew what I was there when Elton John played
01:02:53
Marine World and I knew the guy to clean up the elephant [ __ ] before his oh my
01:02:58
God I'm a comedian I should not try to sing okay so that's thank you uh Ali fear and
01:03:09
that's your long answer yeah revolver on my side David album was [ __ ] I would go back to
01:03:16
if I couldn't do any Beatles you don't have to I would do because I love the
01:03:20
Beatles but I would do some Elvis I would do uh Highway Led Zeppelin II Bowie Changes one oh a zeppelin one [ __ ]
01:03:29
Dark Side of the Moon Maybe I want to answer for me and for you I have control issues and I love uh Halen
01:03:36
and I love [ __ ] man God damn it I'm getting stumped anyway all good it's my
01:03:42
therapist said I had control issues and I said could I tell you what the next question should be
01:03:48
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