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here's why I want to say just to our fans right now I'll get over here a little bit okay we're going hey we're
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really uh talk to you hi this is Dana I know we're in a two shot I just want to lean and kind of talk directly to the fans let me lean out we uh no you're
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part of the deal I mean you're definitely my partner I just want to thank you all for listening to this thing because I got a [ __ ] ton of bills
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in my life and I got what you call a big nut and I'm not talking effectively
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anyway so I thank you for listening and I know you're usually driving and doing
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something else but I don't I have no anger about that I'm just glad you're listening and I hope it brings you a
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Smile David would you like to address their fans yeah only out I hope it
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brings more than that I'd hate to go I listen to that hour and a half [ __ ] and I got one smile out of it uh what are
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you reading the comments you never can read it I wish I could be like John Morant not
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care I care about the comments I know don't start waving anything around in my
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face I just wave a gun during these I'll get some Take a Bow right now that if
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you wave a weapon yeah I will not take a video with my phone and post it because
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you're my friend is trying to help me in my life yeah you want to steer me the right way but we would have Steven Smith
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talking about us if I wave a gun David Spade is a he was a good guy I used to like
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him the gun Carvey should have wrestled it away you cannot have this person do five
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rebounds and a half and expect to go to the Championships I think the guy I've
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been watching him Stephen if you're watching gotta come on your show I kind of think that is a giant brain yeah he
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does some long riffs and I don't know we know someone here in our studio knows him but if that stuff is extemporaneous
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after the half and what he's coming up with I'm a fan David
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chase the sudakis Jason Sudeikis is a guy who has trouble spelling his last
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name I'm calling you Davey Segway he's he's an all-time great cast member and then of course we did do a deep dive
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into Ted lasso which is such a uh lightning in her bottle incredible show David we did a deep dive I watched the
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pilot and I watched every episode and yeah so we met somewhere in the middle
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I was like so far it seems like soccer's involved this is me texting David yeah
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it's it's it's in England no he's great uh I've heard about Ted lasso for the
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last three years and uh he's always good on the show he was super cool we did it in here in my pad we had a blast he's
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he's just a fun dude he likes to uh talk didn't dodge we just blabbed about
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everything and he was a crack up man I had a good time that day I would say that he uh
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you know that was the first time like doing this podcast you get to like sit with someone directly for well over an
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hour and get to know him so I really got to know him and he is he's a wise he's
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an old soul sorry I hate that cliche but he had he says some really wise stuff and philosophical stuff maybe coming
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from uh Kansas's own Jason uh incredibly humble Regular Guy and um I was
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fascinated how Ted lasso came about and the origins of it and where it went and
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how much of his personality and the genius of of a lot of moments in
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that show uh that you just don't see coming yeah so hard to put together a show that works so hard to get it to be
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Universal hit like that and uh they did they put the secret sauce together it's very that's a huge accomplishment
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um we talked about everything you could think of Dana you know what you said once you said something nice you said
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you have an old face and I said well it was an old voice oh no I said you had a
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he has a very cool voice I've told you you had a cool voice but you never take me seriously I get texts later did you
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mean that about the cool voice tell me again look at this I used to do this in my pen can you see that on the shitty
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camera look at this then I like this you take that teacher you know what I like Oswald David I like when older guys go
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out with the young woman and they say it's not because she's young she's an old soul so she's an old soul who
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happens to have a great ass that's a great ass I don't care I don't care about the fact that she's 9 team with an
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incredible ass I'm attracted to her she's brought out of high school it has nothing to do with that I'm 91. hello
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I'm horndog Billy uh Jason we're gonna get letters no we're fine we're getting
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letters Jason Sudeikis yeah we better enjoy this it's a very uh mellow
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conversation very informative and real just about how people like Jason get to
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be Jason and um this is a really interesting journey I would listen if I were you don't pause
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it I'm talking to people in the car they're like I just gotta go into work now no because no one works you ever heard
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of this yeah fun employment instead of unemployment put an f on it fun employment it's like
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you kind of quit your job and you just travel the world you ever thought of doing that I'm soft quitting this podcast
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I'd stop talking that's a good one soft quitting should we end on that I like a
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soft opening of a uh of a restaurant when I put my wiener out there this is a
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soft opening where are you from 1968 meters you call it a convener
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I don't like when girls use medical terms Jason [Music]
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as uh adult candy bars all throughout the house and one in the elevator sorry
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inside baseball I'm stuck in the elevator one
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it's time you learned he only gets paid scale plus a million
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so you did Joe Biden in the early days yeah him 2012. yeah where he's kind of a
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108 I mean I did him in the uh I mean the first time I did the first time I
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did him was like when some Christmas episode of maybe 2007 or something like that like and I forgot and then when
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Obama picked Biden as his running mate Fred Armisen texted me saying congrats I was like what for what because Biden I
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go I play Biden he was yeah you I played SpongeBob SquarePants like it was like yeah it was a Halloween sketch and I was
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like oh right I was like I guess that means all you had he already had it locked in intentionally yeah I mean and
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then and then I got to do it uh and be you know uh who was the magician that went on after the Beatles uh on Ed
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Sullivan basically I did I lived that existence playing Joe Biden in the vice presidential debates against Tina Fey's
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Sarah Palin they look alike they sounded like it'll blow your mind yeah and and just
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everybody was clamoring for it and and and she crushed it and yeah I had you know fun runs written by Jim Downey and
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Seth but everybody was like yeah yeah okay there we go here we go
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little sunglass Corvette guy who's at Alpha at that point compared to you know he's older now you know yeah so it was a
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different take on Eternal very very Grand paternity that's all I got it's kind of close yeah
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good Lord so we have Kansas oh now you play basketball I just the
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only thing I ask I'll ask this first could you touch the rim I could could you dunk a baseball I could dunk a
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baseball yes I'd probably dunked a basketball 10 times in my life shut up never during a game with a referee I was
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just talking about this yesterday any Witnesses there's basketball going on right now you know a lot of basketball so I'm just yeah so don't use dunkings
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on everyone six one what's your wingspan oh probably six one probably nothing nothing
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spectacular so yeah pretty good vertical to get a basketball it was also adrenaline I also had a lot of friends that could jump and so it's a little bit
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of peer pressure that way too where it's just come on just shut up and do it but I do remember if I dunk 10 times six of them uh six of those times were one day
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after playing basketball like in between junior senior year you know I know the sophomore junior year like during summer
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that's unreal
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it was a uh it's less of a big deal now I feel like you know shooting threes off
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the dribble is what it's all about now because of you know Steph Curry and whatnot but back in yeah back when I was playing dunking was the biggest deal in
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the world I mean that's the the test market for those strength shoes you know that they you know really
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that would kind of creating yeah I mean I had a pair for the legit reason I would jump rope in them all the time a lot of a lot of time spent on that but
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yeah you know when they do it now it's they call it past half court it's like
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one step two step shoot it and you go Jesus how do you Garden you don't even know what's happening he changed
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everything it's just one two boom when you go and then they make it 90 of the time yeah Caitlyn Clark on the you know
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the women's college you know circuit two I mean it's all all over the place all over the world yeah just shooting yeah Sandler I've Adam and I have played I
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think we may have played once or twice but not not not enough to have a Scouting Report I hear he's good I know
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he gets into it he's competitive too oh yeah yeah what are you doing it's all funny games
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till the game starts exactly yeah like get open you don't talk to me like that
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Jesus Happy Gilmore I'm not funny he was checked the call right you are not
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triggering financing out here but we are all the same no I but um but no he he
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plays he's played in the game with uh my buddy Sam Jones that I've played in a few times and Buddy Brad Morris but yeah
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I haven't played uh maybe once or twice I mean the probably the best the most fun I'd have playing in the was was
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hearing the stories of Gary shandling's game than getting invited to go play uh in that with Sarah Silverman oh you did
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yeah and before he passed and then and then a huge thing was when when Gary was
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like hey you can come with out sir if you want oh that's a big deal lovely like a lovely sort of because I'd read
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about that game forever like oh yeah yeah absolutely Sarah you I mean who are the
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regulars oh my gosh I mean McKay was there Jimmy Miller uh Jimmy was there a couple times
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earlier not earlier days but I there's a run there when I went and I was no good and I sort of got pushed in the
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background yeah yeah just not the emails anymore I was I was like
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a distraction whatever they call it yeah I just want y'all out there like on the side just like you know
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to keep it even you go out there and run around circles or a Spud Webb I would have been a Spud Webb but no I got out
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of that quickly I was yeah I was D basketball in high school and our Center was literally five three he controlled
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the paint yeah that was when they had D basketball five foot tall 91 pounds as a freshman what about you were you always
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a bearded stud in high school were you alone no it was it was a beard of acne
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like any of us right like um yeah he grow a beard until about an hour before I got here how'd you get rid of the acne
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because I had it bad too and I bought all the products yeah and then once I said [ __ ] it I'm not going to put
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anything on it and then within two months it went away isn't that something did you do that it was a little bit like
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it just kind of went away like like a lot of things that that have affected me or have fallen on me as almost maybe
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psychosomatic the things whether it be um you know patches in in growing uh a
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beard or or back pain like so much of it I think is is yeah where you're at mentally and there's so much attention
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put on that and my mom bless her heart was always really more worried about it than I was like because I because I'm
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not looking at my face all day you know we're looking out our eyes and so she she was really adamant yes she had me
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going through all this stuff going to like a dermatologist and I think it did exacerbate the problems
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and every time and I realized later it took me about a year ago it's just making it worse yeah it's just worse
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[ __ ] dries you out and I didn't know it and the oil comes gushing in yeah and
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then you know what's going to happen exactly yeah but I have a handful of you know playing uh you know
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um pseudo dermatologists you know scars from from trying to like get rid of things you know preemptively versus just
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taking learning the patience of just like letting it be just how the mind controls everything let's just not get
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laid this year let's just write it out let's take it easy yeah were you in high school were you I mean were you like
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captain of the team or you were kind of a funny guy with your friends or what was your lane funny guy like I was the
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point guard so like kind of a de facto you know captain in the sense that you're coming down Varsity starter yeah
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yeah okay during junior year yeah as a junior yeah okay so you were good I was decent yeah yeah yeah yeah for for my
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for my area and my in like my skill level yeah I was I wasn't too shabby but um but yeah I mean I I definitely I mean
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a lot of what we do on Ted lasso is my experience of what it's like in locker rooms you know people joking around we were a very fun group of guys I have
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very thoughtful friends guys and I'm still you know very close with and friends with to this day um and we just yeah we joked around a
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lot much of the Chagrin I think of our you know our you know very athletic minded Alpha
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um head coach who who was lovely and playful as well but more playful when we were listening and winning we had the
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same same situation with a cross-country track distance running coach blood gutting hair real x-marine all that
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stuff so were you kind of the funny guy on the team or because I I was with a lot of guys who had great sense of humor
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and I think I kind of developed as a comedian in high school sports Running Oh 100 because they would laugh at
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everything I said yeah and also like I I always grew up around and gravitated
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towards funny people like I had funny friends and they were funny in different ways so like my friend Chris was more of
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like oh what if this happened and then another guy is like more like wordplay and then other guys like a guy do character voices with another guy is the
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guy that we would do fake radio shows with or then when I got a video camera in sixth grade the guy that you'd make fake talk shows with you know and you
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know doing both of your guys stuff you know being like an SNL you know fanatic at that point especially before you
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start going out on weekends you know on Saturdays and having a friend that can drive like you know we did I did that
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all the time with with all these different groups and then my sisters did singing and dancing at like a
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please call Miller Marley uh and so I was around all those type of like more overt theater folks you know the people
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that wanted to do musicals that did you know Summer Stock you know in Kansas City and Kansas doesn't have a big
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comedy scene right it's just more it was a theater improv situation it had it theater
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yeah because I mean they had stand-up clubs around I assume you all did like Stanford's and Sons
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I know I saw Dennis Miller do um you know stand up my my uh right before my
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senior year me and my dad went to go see him in Casey Stanford and Sons yeah and
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um but but yeah I mean my focus was mostly mom taking us to go see touring
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companies going to see my sisters do stuff during the summer and then there was a place called Comedy Sports that
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was like sketch or mostly you know all improv kind of like Whose Line Is It Anyway you know like short forms that's hard actually I just love that and it is
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hard and if that's what you learn doing you know like yeah just constantly jumping through hoops people setting you
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up to fail like the audience is all part baked into it you develop a little bit so fast it was so [ __ ] hard and uh
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stand up is hard but it's at least you can get a head start you know and think about it um
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yeah because now when you're in high school there's a point where you go I actually think I could maybe do this as a living I didn't really think that when
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I was doing stand-up I just did it one day and just said I'll never do this for a living I just want to try it yeah no for it was until moving to Chicago I
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think I want to do this for a living at that point that I moved after after I stopped playing basketball in college and stuff like I was just like okay
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um quit doing that started doing Comedy Sports working at a grocery store living in my parents basement and then I was
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like I'm gonna move to Chicago yeah you know my folks are from there my my grandmother lived up there I lived with
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her my Uncle George and Aunt Bernadette had done Second City uh you know George Winston I think I assume that she had a
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place to land I'd replace the freak yeah
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I'll talk you through it it makes sense I brought an iPad to explain things
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visually um but yeah like that was when I made the decision like I want to try this all the rest of it was just about having fun
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was just wanting to do something that I saw and having opportunity to do it I assume it's the same did you have uh
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stage fright no I'd get antsy I'd get excited you know I try to explain what
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uh anxious is um to like my kids I say it's excited plus nervous so I was definitely anxious
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but but I think there was something about having an athlete's mentality
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towards it all and it's something I still say today and something again we've used on the Ted lasso you know show there's no defense in the Arts
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there's nobody trying to actively for the most part when you're doing it stop doing it yeah just yeah yeah your app
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your own apathy your cynicism your ego you know your baggage but I tell my sense there's no getting your feelings
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hurt in Show Business yeah it's like no crying in baseball yeah yeah it's a monolith it does it's not against you
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it's not stacked against you it's just a thing yeah and there's how are you gonna respond it was made to make you feel
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better I just want to put insert this because I've always been uh noticed your voice and did you get some voice over
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offers early in in Chicago with your voice never never a very good he just noticed him he's
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sexy a minute ago hey look it is very sexy but it might be deeper
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right now just because of uh you know it just seems like a good voice like yeah like our net yeah
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I could never yeah I I did I did a voiceover thing for Applebee's like a
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few years which was which was nice because you know they're headquartered back home and stuff and how did that sound did you put
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on a voice voice
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all the spaghetti you can eat it's hard to Blooming onions
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fish sticks but I do I remember you know and it was a big teacher a big influence
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in my life she comes up all the time but this woman Sally Shipley who who taught speech and debate had one of her
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students she also taught radio TV and one of her students was like oh we should do this thing you know you should get to do uh the voiceover is uh Jason
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Sudeikis he has a nice voice okay and I was like I was like I do yeah I didn't I didn't know anything about that and see
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I don't have a voice I have I don't have a face either I say this you barely talk I'm like an invisible person but you can
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put stuff on me or give me a voice the Silver Screen you're just you you are I'm just invisible I'm a totally neutral
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person whoever you want to be yeah yeah you can put a nose on me whatever so give me an accent it's a blessing and a
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curse isn't it you know uh I'm so tempted to talk about TED lasso do not
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they told us do not I figure oh they said 45 minutes in he doesn't I want to
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promote Ted lasso it says right here at Banana Republic great perfect yeah we
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want to spend an hour on and he's an insane pinball person all right have you been to the pinball place in Vegas the
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Pinball Museum Off the Strip though it's unreal yeah it really is they write pinball big enough you know where it is
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and I went in yeah it goes like this pregame but I did it I
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went through there and uh got all the effects it was nice to meet kids so no I went in there I felt weird
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because I'm like it's mostly adults I go who's weirder you know I'm in here but I played Galaxia destroyed
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asteroids you don't find them everywhere Dana no you don't go to bed no I did
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guys I'm from the 50s I mean we had a pinball machine at the at the lake it was like back then it was gambling it
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was bad news don't put your quarters the guy who ran the where's guppy
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Mercantile and wrote Lake Ronan Montana he was he was the king of that pinball
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machine out the deck and there were goats and we'd challenge him and I love him anyway I fell in love with it yeah
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like well after the fact throughout it's always been there because growing up uh you know was born in 75 so arcades were
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big as a kid and and dad taking us to go those things and I would play you know like you know Dig Dug or any of the
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other games Tron whatnot and then he'd always go over these pinball machines and that was the first time I saw dude like you know cradle the ball where it
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wasn't just luck it wasn't he wasn't just slapping it up there I was kind of like oh then kind of got away from it then the felt one of the fellas that
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owns and created this theater called boom Chicago and Amsterdam uh as a big pinball uh you know fanatic and knows a
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lot about the history and and and just how the games were made and the designers and he had one and kind of taught me and Brendan hunt who plays
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coach beard on Palazzo taught us kind of the you know the more nuanced version of that and then 10 years went by and then
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I bumped into one again and whenever like especially when you're with someone and you go do films and you're and
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you're you're spoken for like to go out on the town can be like laborious especially as you as you like people
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knew me from SNL so me and my friend chip who I work with we would go find a place I found an app that was just like
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oh really yeah where you found out where the pinball machines were so great because they give you a per
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give you a reason to go out give you a focus on something it's not just having a beer like you know we're not like do something you know yeah to focus on and
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also as people maybe start to join us you you can kind of just include them it was it was always we'd always rent a
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pinball machine to wherever you're shooting a movie just to kind of learn and give ourselves something like a Sandler yeah and Jerry's down hatched a
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little uh a little PG-13 on Netflix here boys okay Jerry's Deli in the valley was
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a big place to hang out I think it's still there but maybe it's not it's Jerry yeah but they had so that was the
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old days of like Sandler Drake say they're Schneider they had pinball in their fun house a game called Fun house
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and we would uh just hours just because there's nothing with stand-ups in the day yeah bored over us go bomb at night
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come back in it's practical it's it's physical it's a quarter it's not that bad you get 10 bucks if you can ride it
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out and if it could get yeah if you have a good game it lasts 15 minutes and then you're sort of competing against us
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yeah I'll come back and then you do you hear that knock that's a good one it's very close
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towards so you lived above a Burger King yes yes so this is when is this this is my first time
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Burger King they must have been in New York it was absolutely New York I'm 46th Street between fifth and sixth it was
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the first place I it was the only place I looked at I moved in they had me at the Paramount supposed to be two weeks
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for SNL yes that's what I do too I go really something's wrong with my room it's two feet by three feet I went down
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the front desk and I go so well you got a king suite no this is my whole room
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and I had no [ __ ] ideas I had to sleep in the fetal position it was so small literally you couldn't stretch out oh you no you could absolutely touch the
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wall either sometimes like you know but this was this was at the Paramount this was the room
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you bringing a suitcase when you go in there
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you both can't go in it's honestly there's there's a stand on your bed but
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I was there yeah I was supposed to be there two weeks I am extending it like six somehow uh and went to a internet
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cafe looked up a place on Craigslist my sister Kristen had already lived there for a few years so I had her come to the
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you know look at the place and it was and I could see the 30 Rock out the back out the blinds because that was why I
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was here I figured I was gonna get let go within at least whatever the writers it's burned in all of us I know just we
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all sound like fire me why would they hire you as a writer did they see you perform but then also like your writing
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and said let's just try them again I never asked I mean but that was the impression I got I mean it's a little
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bit like Lego I would have said like you know I was kidding about you know Sandler want you around the game you always hear that Lauren like he just
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wants funny people around so even though I auditioned for it and I always auditioned the year after
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um uh Tracy had left and and um and um it was your Keenan got hired a
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fellow named finesse Mitchell um and yeah I had it I had a decent audition I had one piece in there where
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I play a senator uh who who offends
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um uh black people and then he when he goes to apologize to them he then offends Jewish people and then he offends and yeah when he's 2003. okay
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yeah it was based on Rick Santorum like really he was like he compared to
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homosexuality to bestiality and then in his apology like just doubled down on it it was like what is going on and so I
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did that but it was non-partisan and so they liked you know the writing of that because it was it was you know taken
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behind it yeah and uh Steve Higgins was more vocal about about why I got high
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maybe you could give it to someone else with the champion him and Tina and Tina who I knew her and
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her husband from my second City days um and so yeah so then it was just a matter of going out there I go into that
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building uh walk upstairs I was like Chris how is this she's it's nice like this is it's clean like I go how and I
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don't have a good sense of smell if any sense of smell yeah so like I was like does it smell like burgers and she goes you can kind of smell the fries but it's
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gone by this floor because it's like I think like three or four floors walk up and the reason why I was on top of the
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Burger King is because a fellow named Lou our landlord owned was a you know French franchise guy and he built these
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these things right on top of it I still thought we were doing SNL but yeah so snls
00:25:59
you know will you if I pick you up uh just come down what was yours cast
00:26:06
members like Lauren Michaels is enigmatic of course we've been doing Lauren if you haven't noticed mine's a
00:26:12
little softer pretties everybody does it um but your relationship with him how
00:26:18
did it of was it where you standoffish at first were you no he was always
00:26:23
really like like nice to me I I think he wanted me to get out of my own way while
00:26:29
on his watch you know a little bit like like I would say that you know the part of him that that one
00:26:36
that hires people because he sees something in them or someone that he sees something in says that you know you
00:26:42
should go after the this person's got something um like I I I think he's seen all of us
00:26:48
are our archetypes like a dozen times over at this point so he kind of is like okay I'm gonna give you I'm Gonna Give
00:26:55
You Billy Murray advice you know attach you to someone I mean I mean I
00:27:00
don't know I've never asked him but that's what it does like a little bit like because he was auditioning you know who to you know
00:27:05
um you know like but he was always supportive like he was and he was always something I felt I
00:27:11
could go up and and and speak to I remember that after that first audition you know I talking to Horatio and and
00:27:18
Maya Rudolph ratio I knew from Second City my who I just met but it was lovely I went down to go go downstairs they're
00:27:24
not gonna laugh No One's Gonna Do anything like don't worry about it and I went down did it and after I got done with my my studio audition the first one
00:27:30
Lauren came over and shook my hand and I did not know what to make of it would not knowing it like like where where it
00:27:36
doesn't yeah I still don't know he came over and shook your hand he stood up walked over now I don't now I walked forward and I
00:27:42
was told that no one's gonna laugh people did laugh a little bit it's only like five people and then he's not gonna say anything and then he got up and did
00:27:48
the opposite of that I was like I didn't go upstairs and try to make sense of it I probably haven't really spoken much
00:27:54
about it because it didn't I was like now I don't know if I didn't I didn't walk out go back to my dressing
00:27:59
room which was you know Daryl Hammond's dressing room I believe at the time and and uh he may have just walked out behind me and gone to the John you know
00:28:06
what I mean like so I don't know give me a piggyback ride he will cast it sort of almost like a
00:28:12
sitcom in a way you know you'll be Bill Murray and yeah little hater
00:28:17
so were you like a Phil type or no no I I don't know if I was I I feel like he
00:28:23
wanted me to be the the thing that really helped like sort of push me over the edge because I wrote for those first two seasons was
00:28:30
um like I wrote when you came to Ho you came back to host once and I was on the cast when you came back yeah but um that
00:28:37
in those first two years there was a there was a sketch that we did when Tom Brady hosted and I basically did like
00:28:43
this like the same dancing that I do in that what up with that we wanted to talk about that but I did that Dancing Yeah
00:28:50
because Beck was performing that week and he had a guy that was doing the dancing uh like like kind of like you
00:28:56
know off to the side and so I just made the choice to do this and then it made a bunch of people laugh and I remember
00:29:02
Tina telling me that during during dress rehearsal when that sketch was going on
00:29:07
he kind of looked at the screen he goes Dan Aykroyd Dan Aykroyd you know and then yeah then that then we had the show
00:29:13
Saturday the sketch made it on uh as did the other sketch that me and my buddy Joe Kelly wrote uh for our man uh Tom
00:29:19
Brady and then two weeks went by and during that break they hired hired him into the cast so it was kind of like
00:29:26
well it's such a specific dance and it always makes you laugh even if you I watch it again and I'm laughing every
00:29:31
time because it's so specific and you're playing it so earnesty so clueless so and what's up with that you can't take
00:29:38
your eyes off you and Keenan talked about how much you made that sketch you
00:29:44
know I mean that's very sweet of him I would argue you didn't have a line you're just what did he call it's got like a bicycle thing
00:29:51
you look so stupid yeah and your wig and uh also I think in the Ted lasso clip
00:29:56
where they say it looks like you're in the middle of all the guys and they're 100 like the first show yeah uh so it's
00:30:02
a it's a hilarious very specific what's up with that is just funny anyway it's just funny and it was such a joy I mean
00:30:07
what were the like when people ask me my favorite discussions from there that one is always top three and not necessarily because of my the effort I put into it
00:30:13
or the way people respond to it which is always lovely but just it was the one that we did my generation where when they'd start to build the set people
00:30:20
would start to get hyped because I didn't found that spot after update so they tear away the update thing then they'd start putting up that and the
00:30:25
people oh that's great everyone was in it everyone was in some weird yeah
00:30:31
and you'd always have like Robert De Niro there or somebody like you know like some weird Cameo you know Bill
00:30:38
dressed as Lindsay Buckingham we knew exactly where it was gonna go we're just slotting in all these things and it was
00:30:44
crazy Cameo it's great when people even cast want to be in it or a host comes in and says I want to be in that yeah
00:30:50
that's the best
00:31:11
it was more of a magic trick I would I would do it for a little bit of time and then we'd we'd we'd
00:31:17
um I'd jump in to frame like that was the thing that I mean the thing I always
00:31:22
look at it is I've been doing that dancing since I was like I'm a basketball teams like from the early 90s that's just watching um TV wraps with
00:31:29
Fab Five Freddy and and kitten play and house party and all those movies and um and and yet it was the same thing I made
00:31:36
my 15 year old friends laugh the things that I like delighted in were like me learning the edge of frame and how to
00:31:41
make it look like I'm dropping in off of something or taking a long exit like roundabout thing doing like a Sherman
00:31:47
Helmsley and you probably walk off you know and just trying to tickle like keen and
00:31:53
trying to make him laugh and just milk up as much screen time as possible just to make like Kenny among and the booth laugh and you were doing it different on
00:32:00
air you were so surprised yeah yeah you're trying to switch up little things yeah yeah we had a good spry uh group of
00:32:06
people uh my generation that at some point you realize that if we if we make the boss laugh by making each other
00:32:12
laugh yeah in a sketch that's funny with the sound off like there's no real joke once the melee starts and the party and
00:32:19
the dancing and all the stuff you can just the audience can really just laugh oh it's great because they're not listening for any you know yeah yeah
00:32:26
which is another one I wanted to bring up because you did with Keenan was the Scared Straight yeah and he gave you
00:32:33
Kudos too as his partner in crime you know going hey hey come on I mean that that thing is
00:32:39
really I mean again it's so fun because we'd always get uh you know the host would have something fun to do but then
00:32:45
you know Bill and Andy were in there and Bobby Moynihan is who I picked her for the third for the third and just and
00:32:50
Keenan when you get Bill and Andy cooking and laughing and then and then
00:32:55
Bobby too Bobby's so funny uh and then yeah Keane would come in there just holler who has whoever I'm trying to I
00:33:01
mean I like hollering and were you writing on the show with four other people at
00:33:07
that time did you come up with this with Keenan or no that was that was probably him I'm guessing Brian Tucker maybe
00:33:12
maybe somebody else um Rob Klein potentially but no I I A lot of times I was just you know like uh those two
00:33:19
instances were um just I was merely amused and who did you connect with as a
00:33:25
writer did you have someone who you wrote with more regularly or would come to you with stuff yeah well I mean those
00:33:30
first two years um I I I really was felt imposter syndrome of like as a writer only
00:33:36
because I had only recently discovered like what I did what I liked writing for
00:33:42
myself but but again that virtue of having funny friends it was like one of
00:33:47
those things and there were two there are two uh you know sort of uh Commandments if you will or like a piece
00:33:53
of advice that that uh that Tina gave one one was like um you know don't write anything that
00:34:00
you feel like you can do yourself um you know because it'll it'll drive you crazy especially if you're if you
00:34:06
did audition for the show and now now and I did it once and she was 100 right I wrote a Dr Phil thing for Jeff
00:34:12
Richards um like later in my first season because I just wasn't getting anything on so I was like well write something that I
00:34:18
know and Jeff and I worked on it really well and it and it didn't it didn't it didn't go super great at the read
00:34:23
through and I remember being unnaturally upset like where it's just like Ah that's what do you mean you know
00:34:28
how to play it yes but it does my thing yeah but but it but when you when you give it when you hand it over it's like
00:34:35
uh I'm okay I was okay doing that but but I but I but people it's like the um
00:34:41
it's like people weren't hot on on Jeff at that point in that room and and and he was doing it well it just it just
00:34:47
like didn't get over that hump that Wednesday is good yeah oh my God I think when they hire you as a writer I think
00:34:52
Dana it's like a little scammed first of all it's a little cheaper it makes you work harder yeah sure I didn't want to be a writer I didn't know how to be a
00:34:58
writers from Arizona I just barely had 25 minutes to stand up and Rob Schneider and I we got the call together and he
00:35:03
goes hey it's great news we're hired as a writer performs I go no because no that's great that's a Chevy Chase or
00:35:09
someone was like oh I don't know how to [ __ ] write and I know how to write for other people I barely knew how to write for myself so you get in there and
00:35:16
they would say you know right for Dana right for Mike Myers right for whoever and I'm like it's so hard and also I
00:35:21
barely have ideas myself yeah and then you give them away and it kills you inside because I know and it's and for
00:35:27
me what what eventually happened was I did start I started pairing up with like Fred Fred and I hit it off and you know
00:35:33
Fred's just a lovely fun guy and and what I couldn't what I couldn't do was make up something for these guys like on
00:35:39
a blank page at that point but what I could do is listen to what they did do bad impressions of it let my brain click into that and help with rewrites like
00:35:45
the rewrite table was I loved I still love it I'd sit it and he shows rewrite table it's like yeah you know that's
00:35:51
that's my it's fun to help someone else's your egos out of the way and you're just like oh wow
00:35:58
and you feel like you're in the game you're like if I can compete just be yeah even with these guys or in the mix
00:36:05
absolutely like that like I like that I'm not taking up space here that I that I yeah I do belong here I've worth being
00:36:11
here they haven't they haven't wasted the other time I told Dana this when he was there I
00:36:16
think when I uh there's a Sketcher he's played receptionist I want wanted to do it I hadn't been on much and and I was
00:36:22
sort of teetering on every summer they'd go I don't know if we're going to keep them you know and I'm like God damn you know how can I work any harder maybe I'm
00:36:27
just not good enough and then I that one I got on and then David Bowie was
00:36:33
musical guest so I said ask him if he wants to be at the end and I won't know who he is and then he said yes and then
00:36:39
he wanted to call me and then he asked if he could be my part and switch and I said no and it was so hard but I
00:36:46
go I have nothing I mean I and it and I'm it made me think what you said about you just want to get on so even like one
00:36:52
of your good sketches you might just give to someone that you brought in yeah just to get on to stay yeah and then
00:36:57
worry about it later like okay I gave it one away but I don't even know if that was any good you just go I want to do it and he's like oh yeah
00:37:04
okay and I was like oh my God and I have to I get to talk to David Bowie and then I get to go sideways with him right away
00:37:10
right he's like yeah okay go [ __ ] yourself good luck with your [ __ ] I had that but it was nice angle on that with Robin Williams who I adored and was a
00:37:16
really good friend but he really wanted to do Church chat and this is in the early days this was my golden ticket and
00:37:22
I was very careful and I thought if Robin got so excited it would be like oh look no tits you know you know that kind
00:37:28
of stuff I'm just afraid of it and he even called me Saturday morning
00:37:34
at like 10 a.m I would really like to play you know it
00:37:40
was heartbreaking but you know we got past that it wasn't but it was uh in those days if your your thing was very
00:37:47
precious you know I wanted to keep it uh quasi-real in a sense yeah yeah so but
00:37:53
you know it's not like quote-unquote sell out like by giving it to the over to the show I mean again I'm using this
00:37:59
you know metaphorically it's not selling well that was a lucky thing because the cast I had Phil and Jan and people in it
00:38:05
and it was a lucky thing I didn't know home base and then have the cast come and go and the host so Lauren loved it
00:38:11
yeah because I didn't have to score did you come in with characters not really no I did I did like no not really write
00:38:17
them down I mean yeah characters and like seven Impressions that first audition and and it was mostly that
00:38:23
Senator sketch that I mentioned and and from what I heard like like when you get to that point like how the heck did I
00:38:28
get here you know like in three years once once you sort of know you're that you're there um how did that make it whatever you did
00:38:34
you mean yeah yeah exactly or it and it was it was as much like like the banter in between like dealing with like
00:38:40
whether the piece played well or didn't you know I but I was I was yeah dubbed you know being funny so they
00:38:48
just wanted me at the table because it did feel weird getting you know being like actor I mean I called my my manager
00:38:53
over at brillstein uh Jeff and I was just like maybe I've [ __ ] up I think I should just stay that you know you're in
00:38:59
Showbiz now yeah and he would say you know you Sandler Chevy Chase Tina you
00:39:04
know obviously at that at that point like almost Riders it's like you know and I'll do sketches you know questions and anything it was it was great you
00:39:12
know and yet it really took that relationship with Lauren and to the
00:39:19
one thing I learned there that I feel like I would encourage folks to do is like go talk to person that can that can as as if you can if you have the
00:39:26
opportunity to find the audience with the person that can actually change the situation do that versus talking to
00:39:32
everyone to the left and right yeah you know and and and and Lauren was always open to that with with me um and you
00:39:40
know I think that when did two a-holes come in because that that was one of yeah fairly early on that was Chris and
00:39:47
I's first season you know Chris you know yeah so that that really you popped when you saw that yeah I mean that was just a
00:39:52
Magic Christmas episode The Jack Black host and Neil Young was the musical guest uh we had our new sort of
00:39:58
generation was you know pretty interesting there like I had come in at the end last three episodes of the
00:40:03
Season prior Bill and Andy got hired over the summer and then Krista got hired about like five six weeks into the
00:40:09
season and then Fred a little later well Fred had already been there Fred we still had already been there yeah so that was that was a you know you know a
00:40:16
very fertile time on SNM yeah but that specific episode was that they did Lazy
00:40:21
Sunday the digital uh the Long Island guys we did two a holes Will Forte did Spelling the spelling bee sketch that he
00:40:27
had submitted probably six times in in the couple years which was a Groundlings
00:40:32
trunk piece that he had that just everybody loved it just and never got over the hump but Jack Black who is the
00:40:37
who was the host of my very first episode as a writer that I got a piece on like he was just like this lucky
00:40:43
charm for for me specifically but I but I feel for a lot of folks because he would just he was one of those hosts
00:40:48
that would just support the piece like in a holes he's straight up uh just a straight man and just and and that was
00:40:54
Chris and I we were writing together every single week and we were just tired and we're just chewing gum and just
00:41:00
started talking like that babe hey babe and you know and just how do we make this guys in life how would you describe
00:41:06
that to people who are listening it may not have seen it it's like two uh cocky young people yeah uh self-involved yeah
00:41:13
two self-involved people make making a business transaction as difficult as person as possible for the person trying
00:41:20
to help and you had a rhythm of oh baby yeah yeah I was like chewing gum yeah
00:41:26
hey babe what are you doing yeah what do you want to do yeah let's go to Hogwarts you know and then Kristen was just like
00:41:31
this kind of like and she was like like almost like a Paris Hilton type but you know a little fry and just yeah I want
00:41:38
to go in there I'm tired yeah sometimes at three in the morning you go is this even funny but 100 you just like are we
00:41:44
Delirious it's [ __ ] funny but also it's YouTube which is already you're halfway there because yeah you know I
00:41:51
mean maybe you weren't even that you're still emerging yeah I think yeah I mean she was Off to the Races because Chris had so many have so many good characters
00:41:57
I mean the Groundlings folks like blue always consistently blew doors off of us
00:42:02
second city folks you know did they really yeah I think like in regards to characters you know what I mean like
00:42:07
like I mean I mean that's what I love about the the I I I'd say that you know
00:42:13
feral and McKay are like bird and Magic like just like platonic soul mates that were like the Hatfields and McCoys who
00:42:19
then came together with these two sensibilities of these two amazing sketch you know American like comedy
00:42:24
theaters and then boom like you know We're Off to the Races once they once they decide to like just you know yeah
00:42:30
we had more standards back yeah didn't have real theater up in San
00:42:35
Francisco there's no ground Lanes or yeah I would have been in it in a second
00:42:42
[Music] I wonder what it's like to be in the
00:42:47
Groundlings today right you know because it's obviously such a feeder system and oh and now the Hall of Fame would love
00:42:54
it and feel and go on of course you know must be very nerve-wracking because if you get in that you're in the main
00:43:00
company people you have a chance you know I would assume so but I I think it's like especially being out here
00:43:06
because that was one thing about Second City in Chicago is that you you weren't it was just about trying to do that well
00:43:11
like navigate like that you you want to be a good improviser you want to be a good writer you want to be a good actor
00:43:17
but like but you know you wanted people to you know do a good job for the piece but it wasn't you weren't Thinking
00:43:23
Beyond like the building you were in in a lot of places you know um because I think it's because it's in
00:43:29
Chicago even though it has that same you know alumni you know plus what 20 more years they're kind of famous just doing
00:43:35
it in Second City right I mean that's not a big deal already yeah and you're getting paid for it which I don't know I don't think Groundlings gets paid I
00:43:40
don't know what if things have changed over the past few years but can we talk about a few more of your really cool
00:43:46
sketches I mean the commitment I mean I watch the I don't know if David's top but the potato chip with Will Forte and
00:43:53
the way you play that you both played it was such full-on sincerity and drama and
00:43:58
then when you started to break I just thought no wonder he's so good at Ted
00:44:03
lasso you know like yeah you see the seeds of it I'm sure it's comedy yeah
00:44:09
but I really felt bad for the way you played it that you first you were super defiant you didn't need the potato chip
00:44:15
it's a complete theater of the Absurd oh absolutely with such commitment Will Forte is a freak that way he's on there
00:44:21
and then the way you decided to give it up and then the way you saw I mean you must have known that
00:44:28
was because that's such a weird sketch that it must people like it must really mention it to you 100 that's one of
00:44:34
those sketches I'd be curious to know from both of you what's the one that people can come up to you and you know like oh we would have been friends as
00:44:39
kids if you like if you like that then we were then we're like friends for life you know people say what up with that that's great people to dress up like
00:44:45
that character for Halloween yeah but I would say potato chip and Main Justice main justices if people come up to me oh
00:44:51
I love potato chips yeah instantly have a soul connection with that person do you have one like that oh yeah
00:44:57
it's from Maine which I I love we both have a main sketch on the variety show with Colbert
00:45:05
it was just a flight of fancy of a petrich farm kind of voice being a skinhead yeah you know the weather is
00:45:11
the only thing that the Jews don't control you know is that it was that level that's funny
00:45:18
goes I hate stick for beating Spaniards and so it was skinheads from Maine yeah so people at an airport come up hey man
00:45:24
our friends and I always mention that yeah because we're skinheads exactly yeah
00:45:30
what about you David it would be now um we did bye-bye twice the second one
00:45:37
the second one miserably it's a very catchy cat that's a catchy one yeah that was the only one it was only twice that's what we did and then we went away
00:45:43
for well I went to Los Angeles the next day and this flight attendant set it and
00:45:50
then from then on I probably honestly heard it maybe every day in my life for about 10 years because when you go off a plane if they say anything like that
00:45:56
your head goes to your skin absolutely oh yeah and then they were told not to say that
00:46:02
anymore and then they show the sketch because my friend's wife worked for America and they show them and say this is what they think of us so we have to
00:46:08
change our oh my geez we've ruined everything we say good Moro now we say good morning
00:46:14
I mean they still hate you whatever they're saying
00:46:20
no it is they it bought me some street cred with uh Sometimes they come by like
00:46:26
on the Southwest and they give you like a thimble of water and then they come by and they they go hey and they wink and they give me like a two gallon jug and I
00:46:33
go oh my God and then the person's actually hanging on the water I'm like I'm waterlogged I've been too much I'm
00:46:38
holding it like a baby and then I get [ __ ] and get five too much what I mean I know they better get mad at me now
00:46:46
what about this the main Justice guy that's another really yeah I mean it's the same character you know
00:46:51
but it's such a fun how do you describe that sort of character I mean he's like got a little goatee he's like Colonel
00:46:57
Sanders yeah like what's funny and this one one of those things that I love like one of the lessons like Showbiz lessons
00:47:03
that that it can almost extend into life lessons that SNL is the the potato chip
00:47:08
sketch was was done when I was I was going through a divorce I was like you know like not sleeping well like being
00:47:14
pulled Every Which Way John Solomon and Will Forte who were riding buddies went to UCLA together Etc and you know
00:47:21
created all this stuff since last man on Earth and with grouper and whatnot they write potato chip and the reason they
00:47:26
write that thing is because I had done a sketch a few weeks earlier the first time we did
00:47:31
um uh went up with that actually when Gerard Butler hosted and I had just seen Cool Hand Luke and I was kind of like
00:47:36
it'd be funny to do a Cool Hand Luke sketch but it but but Cool Hand Luke tries to get out of eating the eggs by
00:47:43
just being like you know are these are these free range eggs like it's like it says but I can eat 50 eggs and then I
00:47:49
wrote myself as like the George candy part so I'm doing or doing all that cow boss here we come home now doing all
00:47:54
that and it did well but it didn't get picked so so you you that's the beauty of like Wednesdays is like that's when
00:48:00
you write one for them one for you and you do something and then your friends you know like hear the things or your
00:48:06
co-workers here think oh Jason can do this voice and so then they write potato chip and write me in that in that voice yeah and so that and so it comes from
00:48:12
that and so there's a rot from this really crazy stupid place which is literally just me doing a bad George Kennedy from the loud bombastic cocky
00:48:20
high energy is fun to do in that studio yeah and and just picturing an outfit you know whatever well you know again
00:48:26
one of those great things that I think Kristen is such a perfect example that the ground these folks had like they could see these characters that could
00:48:32
just be transferred on the television oh you know with with like wigs and just like the slight like just a couple you
00:48:37
know props and and wardrobe and boom they're you know off they went um so then with with Maine Justice there
00:48:44
was an idea that I had had first year for Horatio Sans and it was more like Texas Justice and then it's just like
00:48:49
then we just like added some layer of absurdity to it we just make it Main and I mean I've told the story before but
00:48:56
like Lauren and Seth I hated it because there's no logic what's
00:49:05
why are you talking about you know crawdads up in Maine you know and not Lobster but all this stuff yeah and and
00:49:12
myself and Mike O'Brien who was my office mate and a good friend we wrote together a lot uh and I'm trying to
00:49:18
think who else was in there oh I think Rob Klein as well uh who's a Harvard kid you know like so like you know super
00:49:23
clever and and and and silly um we're just like you what are you talking about what was the the logic
00:49:29
behind Tunes is the driving cat you made us this way you like you're true yeah so like I blame you Dad so that's why like
00:49:36
two-thirds of that sketch we just go through the list like we're we're like Bobby Williams characters like what the hell is going on it's like and then I
00:49:42
just go through just the exposition like oh maybe this happened Katrina maybe there's a Time War you know like like
00:49:48
whatever it's just this weird it's just a satisfied story where does this guy
00:49:53
and then we just push on through but yeah that's one of those ones that you just you know I think it's probably from
00:49:59
the one yeah the coolant Luke but then also being a fan of Harry Connick Jr like in in like like when New Orleans
00:50:05
folks would you know get real real comfy and just start talking yeah yeah did you
00:50:11
when you were just cool and Luca what were the things that blew your mind as a kid like with movies or TV oh yeah yeah
00:50:17
they inspired you was it cool and Luke one of them I mean the first one comes to mind is Beverly Hills Cop Beverly
00:50:23
seeing Beverly Hills Cop in the theater yeah all of it yeah you guys have to pay for the rights for
00:50:29
that well no then we just laid out on them and then we're like [ __ ] for the
00:50:37
repeat Marcy good Tina Jason anyway um but that was that was a big one
00:50:44
um I mean SNL was huge like you know that was that that was that was certainly when were you in high school
00:50:50
when was SNL yeah 1994 was like 90. I know yeah but I would say okay the uh up
00:50:56
till up until sophomore year until my friend Matt Bale got his driver's license
00:51:26
everything's on peacock do they have to name the network it's it's a swear peacock you can't really put on an art
00:51:34
piece on the peacock We're the Millers Horrible Bosses stop me if you're in any of these
00:51:39
yeah we were told by who were you told by listen you're up to you can do whatever about the age group of you know
00:51:47
when you're a certain age I know I love I love look at the ones you like dick
00:51:52
fuel crime scene well I thought that guy was [ __ ] awesome I thought that was so funny character hey fuel it's just me
00:51:59
doing like a bad Stallone but they're also like diesel I'm doing Vin Diesel so
00:52:05
you've got a really good bald cap on like a super short crew cut yeah are you
00:52:10
coming in what was this yeah just you're supposed to take a hit from Jeremy Renner yeah he's a stunt guy and he just
00:52:16
flinches every time yeah and he fights back it's so silly it's so like uh but yeah I did that for the MTV Movie Awards
00:52:23
when I hosted it you can look at this so crime scene crime scene is is one of
00:52:28
my favorite that's when we did that with Charlie Day yeah okay so now that was another great one but that's written by
00:52:34
Joe Kelly who's one of the co-creators one of my dear friends uh who co-created the Ted lasso that was a scene that he
00:52:40
wrote for a schedule after he he he didn't get asked back he had a killer year at SNL didn't come back went on to
00:52:46
go do great work and How I Met Your Mother a handful of other sitcoms you know he co-created detroiters Etc that
00:52:52
was a scene that I saw him do in the sketch show it was all about cops and magicians right so he does this thing
00:52:58
and I'm like this is a hum damn like I just love the writing of it it's so clever and so like it reminded me of
00:53:04
like in that space of like the audition sketch from like Mr show or you know like the dead parents got you know Monty
00:53:10
Python you know like one of those like where it's just like the writing is just super clever and those are two of the
00:53:15
all-time greatest very quickly it was like he's kind of doing sort of a quasi Colombo investigating a murderer and
00:53:22
then he he doesn't relate to anything you mentioned no not we're not baseball doesn't know World War II is he doesn't
00:53:29
teach me how do I never watch television yeah yeah and so yeah he's just like this cop who's just kind of a TV star
00:53:34
very Monty Python very I mean 100 and uh and so then when when Charlie uh hosted
00:53:40
I I asked Joe if we could you know if we could do it he's like absolutely Charlie and I were doing it I was gonna play the
00:53:45
part Charlie was playing he and then Charlie was like What if we switched I was like yeah let's do that because Charlie and I had done Horrible Bosses
00:53:50
one and two I'd been it's always sunny I think he's as smart and lovely and funny as they come he's funny and so I was
00:53:55
just like and trust is his Instinct in his gut like crazy I was just like yeah let's do that and that that sketch I I
00:54:00
love the pieces and it's it's just one of those things that similar to like doing the George C Scott uh or um sorry
00:54:08
George Kennedy voice is like just because you do it it like there and it dies like doesn't mean it's dead like
00:54:15
just because it dies doesn't mean it's dead like it can come back around and find some other place or Inspire some other some other thing that then finds
00:54:22
the right host in the right timing right home yeah same thing with cow Bill until walking came in yeah yeah because didn't
00:54:28
they do it a few times they did it and it just never landed someone said they did it as the host who is we talking they said they did it they said it
00:54:34
didn't work it didn't work and then they got a fever I mean you can't it's one of the
00:54:40
greatest rhythms absolutely thing and then will who can lower his IQ which we
00:54:45
said in like five seconds so Cowboy does this thing with his eyes where he's really stupid
00:54:51
so the two together yeah it's a magic sketch but this one I watched and bad
00:54:56
damn that was fun yeah that's that's Joe Kelly and Charlie Day just me just trying to get in where I fit in you know
00:55:02
damn I want to ask about Horrible Bosses because well we should because people on
00:55:08
our staff or whatever I saw it I love them no well I saw the Marvel watches too and also uh the Millers that one was
00:55:15
another smell we have Anniston in both of them yeah she's in all three I mean what does she like I've seen all these
00:55:21
movies wait she's in them number one thing you go to her parties and you don't have a nightmare because she can't
00:55:27
he cares about her as a person invited thinking did she need coaxing to
00:55:33
be super dirty and I think that was a horrible bosses one yeah or I think she did is she like just ready to just break
00:55:38
it out well she played a stripper yeah she's I didn't get this impression
00:55:43
she needed to be coaxed into it at all so she reads uh Horrible Bosses where she's filthy you know that one Danish oh
00:55:49
yeah yeah crotches yeah yeah she talks dirty and after not too far from friends after
00:55:56
that right it was pretty I mean at least she was like America sweetheart 2013 it or no that was like 2010 yeah yeah so
00:56:02
she um yeah grown-ups you remember that throwing a wig you know putting a wig on too I mean that was definitely her being
00:56:08
you know I I would assume her having fun with the assumption that people make yeah yeah I mean it was kind of you know
00:56:14
the second one I really like the the second one it was it was like our homage I mean I think the world like I said of
00:56:21
Charlie and of Jason Bateman and of their Partners like they're it's such a fun group to to roll with and do even
00:56:26
press together you know and we golly if I could if I could like have one thing
00:56:33
one do-over I would have put out that Horrible Bosses 2 movie maybe more in the summer because they they did it
00:56:39
Warner Brothers new line released it from what I understand as like counter programming for um uh uh Thanksgiving
00:56:47
and it was like you know because that's usually we put out Oscar movies and like family movies yeah it's like it's like and they just I think they miscalculated
00:56:55
um you know people wanting to go see a movie with their grandparents where Rachel from Friends is wearing a occurring like around her around her
00:57:01
neck like just like she's riding a sibian somebody somewhere had that idea
00:57:07
in a room everyone's yes let's do that gives you plenty of those sappy dog movies
00:57:13
I'd love to be on the side you know they're just like doing a scene they're like one more Jennifer maybe say yeah
00:57:18
and eat your [ __ ] okay rolling and she's like wait what am I doing just to get the yell out Bark out Alternatives
00:57:25
everybody yeah that's how all those movies worked though but they just run in jokes that's the fun ones when you do
00:57:32
comedies funny people I wanted us to keep doing like almost like the Marx Brothers like just you know we the next
00:57:37
movie we're gonna do is like a prison break movie like just keep doing genres but as the three yeah these three goofy
00:57:42
like middle-aged dudes yeah when it works your attitude I mean I hear people say this a lot like they don't make
00:57:49
comedies like like that anymore or like Tropic Thunder or you know just it feels
00:57:55
like we're in a different place with comedy films yeah like a ball calls out funny R-rated comedies yeah I guess
00:58:02
they're out there I don't know I'm gonna shut him yeah I don't watch all of Ted last night I think sometimes they from
00:58:08
the top you get down like I I don't know if I do that you can do it but you know it starts to you start to lose jokes
00:58:14
even in specials it never works where you censor yourself kind of stand up they start cutting stuff they start
00:58:19
saying yeah and you're like oh because it used to be just say whatever and live or die but if you're gonna get in
00:58:25
trouble it's you yeah and now they blame Netflix or Amazon and that's that makes
00:58:30
them nervous so it's just hard to get out do whatever you want podcasts we're not really dirty uh Dana's filthy but
00:58:36
we're not really dirty um loves working blue so you can't so but this is one of
00:58:42
the last places if you want you can sort of say whatever you want there's not really a boss yeah and we have editing
00:58:47
capabilities so if you said kill all whatever we're gonna take 90 of this out well we'll have to be more yeah one more
00:58:54
we're gonna start dude this is our best warm-up it's called Dana I did one the
00:58:59
other day and I was doing my [ __ ] gross bits Ahoy I was like
00:59:04
bits puppets I walked in coming in hot in about five minutes now that's great all right let's roll tape and I go
00:59:10
you're [ __ ] joking and then they're like we're here with David I go you guys it was rolling everyone was fun always
00:59:17
rolling Productions you want to shoot the rehearsal to die get the red button and let her rip we covered George when
00:59:24
we did a little bit yeah yeah yeah don't pass I did do Hall Pass yeah with
00:59:30
Owen Wilson hey yeah I think we should go there I knew a guy who had a real
00:59:36
hall pass with his wife like literally band uh who was it I don't know if he
00:59:41
ever paid it off but it was like they both married his virgins together and she said you you got you got one so when
00:59:47
this movie came out I go damn they made a movie about that yeah yeah yeah I didn't see a title good idea I've been a
00:59:52
hall pass for a couple people have you starting to get it down I was in Vegas at the meet and greet
01:00:11
hacky redneck comedian so it's called red rednecky the redneck comedian uh
01:00:17
I met my sister only because Mama took me down come and get some kind of catch
01:00:23
right I asked my mama what's for dinner she said roadkill I said what kind she says I gotta take a drive come and get
01:00:30
songs it's in the jokes and you're like what was that after the joke I said come and
01:00:37
get some I got mine as well it's your cigar pull like you know it burns it's hard to come over the catchphrase Mike I
01:00:44
had to look it up I couldn't have been the first one to say come and get some I remember who's the guy that would do
01:00:49
Chucky ducky quack quack it was on deaf deaf comedy
01:00:55
it might have been called Chucky ducky
01:01:09
I don't know I'm not a grumpy old man I swear to God I'm not I like with these
01:01:14
movies I just say what movies he's in you were in Hall Pass correct yep okay what else could you do other than like
01:01:20
most of it I did like masterminds masterminds yeah it's a
01:01:26
cartoon one that was no that was that was with uh Kristen wig and Sam and Galifianakis and Owen Wilson again yeah
01:01:32
I was just I played a little uh um like a Hitman and it showed up there for a couple weeks Hired Gun you know
01:01:39
he'd come in you screw together and then you went back and hosted it was that kind of cool yeah yeah I'd I'd been asked Pryor but
01:01:47
at the time it was was off and it was I went back and played you know um uh uh
01:01:54
Biden a couple times yeah but but at that point I never I hadn't had the chance to host and you
01:02:00
know there's perfect timing um yeah it was nice I mean it's it's a surreal experience the one thing
01:02:07
that was different was it was post covid so like you know the table read was which I loved you know like Wednesday was like like a little theater show for
01:02:15
everybody you know oh yeah 55 sketches I just loved it and and um just the
01:02:21
marathon it's insane Bo in that room alone yeah
01:02:26
and also and also everyone there has seen the best of the best of the best like at least a third of that room has
01:02:31
been there from the get-go so they're just kind of like okay yeah we saw this we've seen this 100 times over yeah but
01:02:37
um but regardless of all that the the the the opportunity for the first time
01:02:42
ever like yeah because we during my time there's a between 45 and 55 sketches like when when working there for 10
01:02:47
years I was there I'd probably on a good week be in 12 to 17 of those sketches so the most
01:02:54
time you're watching reading and read through you read through and read through so then to show up and go back and to be in 95 yeah cold read over 50
01:03:03
sketches yeah over four hours sickening like I loved it I I try to read them you know you make little notes you try to do
01:03:09
it and then just give it give it your own there's no way you could do it all are you a good reader and some people are exceptional and then
01:03:16
some people are good if you're okay with it I am okay with it I I and it it did make and sometimes I say to anybody that
01:03:23
is currently working us now or ever or ever did like or will like if you get really good at doing SNL you go you then
01:03:29
need to find you need to then leave like during the off weeks or the Summers go go play with other people that don't do
01:03:36
SNL and you'll be you'll be like you'll feel like you know Daniel Larusso like the Karate Kid where it's like oh I didn't know I learned how to do this
01:03:42
you're faster because you're in this All-Star team yeah mentality into your relationships
01:03:52
you seem to have a lot of wisdom around SNL like what would you say to a cast
01:03:57
member who just got hired and they had you had 30 seconds with them yeah like
01:04:03
I would say enjoy the process of creation and destruction on a you know weekly basis
01:04:10
just enjoy it like like make [ __ ] eat [ __ ] Etc repeat like and and don't judge
01:04:17
yourself for when it sticks or what it doesn't because like I've never said just because it it dies doesn't mean it's dead I've never said that before
01:04:22
but that that makes total sense to me oh yeah you know and there's timing where where is these set in the studio who are
01:04:30
you following what sketch are you following yeah and what's the vibe of that audience the most sometimes that I can just tell when I'm doing stand up
01:04:37
that is a dead spot and I see a open Micah coming up I go no chance yeah five
01:04:42
minutes ago probably rode away right now it's just dead so there's a lot of Whimsy yeah yeah
01:04:48
um you know Jerry Miner who is a friend and it was a guy that I looked up to you know uh when he was at Second City when
01:04:54
he was on one of the stages there he came back to guest right and I asked him same question what would you you know if you had to do it all over again this
01:05:00
time there I think he was there for like maybe two three seasons uh he was I had more fun if you give the the the sooner
01:05:05
you can make SNL your recess versus your school yeah the better it's easier said than done so hard it's so hard but that
01:05:12
but yeah and yet if like if if you're able to do that well I feel like it
01:05:17
builds like you're unless you're a savant like certain people just immediate but you're trying to fight
01:05:23
nerves try not to try try not to be too funny get the card here's the guess look around land the laugh be there and then
01:05:30
the audience eventually land enough the audience kind of see is you can feel the vibe they're liking to see you and then
01:05:36
you get more confident and they like you more and then I can see this happen with Cecily Strong we've been watching her
01:05:42
Evolution on the show Absolutely and you can't rush it but it's it's no one tried to expedite in a kind way he asked me to
01:05:48
do the warm-up before the show like probably after my first or second year in the cast and I'd again never done
01:05:55
stand-up what would you do yeah I would just I would just do like like old school jokes you know raise your hand if you've never been to a TV taping before
01:06:01
all right but another show of hands who's had a TV taping for the very first time a lot of the same people you know this you know stuff like that
01:06:07
um my son mentioned you yesterday because he was at that show and he goes oh we're going to interview him he goes
01:06:12
oh man he's a really good stand-up oh no no no because that's all he saw you coming out yeah that I mean that was
01:06:18
Lauren just wanting the audience to have a better sense of who I was before yeah before you get out there you know and he
01:06:24
would be you know Norm used to do it but like normally so I'm gonna be in the sketch I'm going to come out when I come
01:06:30
out really really let them have it let me let them hear it you know
01:06:35
yeah you know it'd be great if you could like stand up and apply yeah right that'd be better than anything Norm let
01:06:43
him not like you ahead of time and then go do your update where they're gonna hate you don't you love when Norah Lauren you always uses the one name
01:06:50
Chevy did it yeah Danny did it Billy liked it there's only one Lauren I love towards
01:06:58
the end they're like uh on Tuesdays was the host dinners did you guys have those I loved him because it was like it was a
01:07:05
little bit like the part of me that wouldn't do homework and then would try to talk about current affairs or current events before you know we started
01:07:11
talking about you know baby wolf you know like I didn't rebellious but I can talk about them twins four hour boozy
01:07:17
dinner and then go back and write the show I didn't to avoid writing when they go we're trying to gather people you
01:07:23
want to go spade and I'm like yeah I'd love to just to see Lauren like get loose and and I learned through
01:07:28
repetition so hearing stories that he may have told before like it didn't bother me at all it just kind of like play his Ed McMahon or just like or just
01:07:35
I was always like I loved when you came back to host you let me I feel I felt I
01:07:41
always had fun making Lauren like my Straight Man like during pitch meeting on Mondays I would I would I have for
01:07:48
years since even Chicago I still carry him like these little tiny notebooks and I just sit there with this little notebook and it would be like all right
01:07:55
Jason and I'd go hey Lauren you still need you you ran out of karaoke last night without paying you you owe me 100
01:08:01
bucks he's like I'll get you okay you said that you know like whatever and then so then you know whoever you know
01:08:07
Ludacris or Ben Affleck doesn't know what my relationship is with this guy who's an icon and it's just me like you
01:08:13
know that's just giving them giving them Guff but he always like we would always
01:08:18
laugh about because it was always like respectful it's never been like you know being a dick to him but it's just just kind of like acting like he was just one
01:08:24
of the one of the Bros yeah yeah hosting is scary one time I went back
01:08:30
and I was I got sick after during dress had to lay down and Marcy I don't know if you're there when Marcy finds if she
01:08:36
was of course dramatic anyway and then freaking out pounding on my doors yeah in that little dressing room off of 8h
01:08:42
the host and the music are right there so I was in there laying on the ground and uh I threw up and then it was mid
01:08:49
toward the end of dress and I missed two sketches and I just went in and then they go so those got cut yeah the
01:08:55
writers are like [ __ ] awesome and that's the worst awesome stink on it if we try to bring it back
01:09:01
next week and then a little bit of bar Flex yeah and then I I got up I mean
01:09:08
hero is a strong word but I got up and I did the show but um
01:09:17
I went out there and did a real C plus episode I hosted twice I don't know if anyone was better if you can consider
01:09:23
that I remember Adam was amazing my uh monologue once and then he Waterboy open and he had to fly back to LA and I was
01:09:29
and Lauren goes just do stand up and I'm like it's not that [ __ ] I never even go on anymore so I had to go do cold
01:09:36
stand up of like dogs are funny do you know he made me do he or he made me he asked me to do the warm-up for the
01:09:42
[ __ ] 40th anniversary oh he asked me to because I because I had done it for eight years that one that I was telling
01:09:48
you and again just straight up just just being goofy you know I mean Don Pardo would introduce me and here Jason's
01:09:54
today and I could give it for Don Pardo the man the myth the legend the only person in this building that was quoted in the Bible you know just doing old
01:10:00
jokes like God said let there be light he flipped the switch you know like the corniest hackiest whatever but just having fun right the audience is and
01:10:07
then that's all casts that 40. hey that's what I said to him like he has Eric Kenwood who was a buddy he's
01:10:12
produced on the show uh was you know writer guy that we wrote together all the time and I was like what are you doing like like Sarah Silverman's in the
01:10:19
house you know Chappelle Spade name check I was like I was like all right these guys would all kill like why me it
01:10:25
just would you just do it you know and so I so I do it and it's fun is I eat so
01:10:31
much [ __ ] I like it's not good no one's listening it's like 10 minutes before it's live and you're looking out there
01:10:36
and what I've said is like it looked like the gatefold of like Sergeant Pepper's the cover everyone every person
01:10:42
was famous every person was famous and then famous on top famous was talking to famous at some point I was like you know
01:10:48
said to Keith Richards who was talking to Jack Nicholson you know Keith Jack I think if you guys sit down people will
01:10:53
start to follow along and it's just nothing nothing and I'm like so I'm not
01:10:58
bummed I'm just laughing about I look out on the crowd Galifianakis is crying with laughter about how much [ __ ] I'm
01:11:04
eating yeah one then comes up to me says says uh you know do you want me to like off Mike do you want me to introduce you
01:11:11
settle them down I was like yes please I go yeah man like that would help and he starts to go up to the mic hold on let
01:11:16
me introduce you I go ladies and gentlemen really quick let's give it up for the man none of us would be here without him the one and only please put
01:11:23
your hands together for Mr Dick Ebersole and I do and I make that joke and as I do that Bill Murray walks right in front
01:11:28
of me looks up at me and gives me a little thumbs up that's why you say yes to this kid
01:11:34
says you know everyone quiets down a little bit and then I got about 30 seconds to just say hey everybody have
01:11:39
fun tonight you know like you did before they got loud again before the real show started but I was that was just Mayhem
01:11:45
dressing room I think I was just hanging out in the hallway yeah my my mouth gets dry just thinking about it stargazing
01:11:51
here we turn into is like somebody somebody I got to meet Eddie Murphy that night I got like it was like a to-do
01:11:56
Chappelle asked me where can I smoke a cigarette yeah I wasn't sure what I don't think you can what about a vape
01:12:03
because I don't like them yeah well all right I know but it was wild Bradley Cooper can I get a picture with you sure
01:12:10
something else for one night I know all right let's talk about it yeah
01:12:18
[Music] Ted's water as a uh video is it
01:12:24
commercial yeah yeah very well right there's a guy with a beard in that and then who made that call I mean there you go uh is it the same it's it is the same
01:12:32
guy yeah coach as I was watching this morning going Brendan I don't know if they brought him over no no your guy's
01:12:39
camera yeah we're Pals from way back when I'll just set the table David yeah
01:12:44
um so I hear about Ted lasso everyone's talking about Ted lasso I'm watching stuff So eventually my wife and I get to
01:12:50
Ted lasso like everyone else are like it's sort of mandatory at this point yeah and then it became like this is
01:12:56
lightning in a bottle yeah and you've heard everything and you actually was you can talk to it but you've heard from
01:13:02
famous people right that just had to tell you what they thought can you I mean you want to mention them or no just
01:13:07
famous I mean the ones that stick out were like you know finding out the Brad Pitt like the show finding out that you know Frank Oz writing a lovely letter
01:13:14
you know um at the Emmys last year sitting next to you know Brian and Cox
01:13:19
and his wife and and and you know we were at a table with some of the succession folks and then him loved the
01:13:25
show like just they if you get it you have a million years you know it's it works on so many different levels it's
01:13:32
very the the the the pop culture pattern how fast you all do it around the room talking about Julie Andrews movies it's
01:13:39
all thrown away Julie Andrews sent Brett Brett Goldstein a very nice uh headshot
01:13:44
appreciation for him so another example uh Roy Kent guys oh these [ __ ] suckers
01:13:50
we're gonna kill him so it's like it's it's almost like Andy Griffith at times it's so worse and sincere yeah and then
01:13:57
the likability factor of Ted lasso you know the country bumpkins that doesn't know what he's doing he's smarter than
01:14:02
everyone he has no ego when the guy tried to take you down uh that actor
01:14:08
would be Mohammed Muhammad yeah and then you did your press conference and turned it so what so you got you do the NBC
01:14:15
thing and I I watched it again and you're a fish out of water so you guys get in a room they get the order yeah
01:14:21
and so when did you know like holy [ __ ] we got a real hook for this now because you cast all these other characters yeah
01:14:28
how does that come together it's like it you know it starts and stops you know like uh because we we did the first
01:14:33
commercial in 2013 the second one in 2014 we got to do because the one in 2013 was well received it's sort of well
01:14:39
received just by your friends they hear it yeah but we also hear that football no you know because it was made to
01:14:45
bridge the gap between American football fans and and you know soccer fans and and Brendan who plays coach beard and
01:14:51
Joe Kelly who's one of the creators of the commercial uh and we're all friends and we're kind of like Goldilocks I know
01:14:57
nothing Joe knows a little bit about both and Brenda knows a lot about both but mostly in more importantly soccer
01:15:02
yeah and so we we try to do that uh with the first commercial and it hits like this weird Venn diagram of football fans
01:15:09
I get soccer fans I get comedy folks like it and the advertising you know like the business people uh like it and
01:15:15
so we get to do a second one they don't want to give us the same budget meaning they don't want to fly us out to the UK that's okay all right we'll make the
01:15:21
commercial about how Ted got hired and fired in three days and loved fell in love with soccer fell in love with the
01:15:26
UK and so that's where like all the enthusiasm and like like um like like not the eagerlessness that
01:15:33
you know to a lot of Grays you know came out so then in 2015 Joe and Brennan and I meet in Brooklyn
01:15:39
uh my partner at the time was like you know what do you you guys all really enjoyed doing that you should do so I was like yeah but what so we sit out for
01:15:45
a week and we're like is it another commercial is it a movie is it is it this and we and we sort of modeled it after the
01:15:51
British office you know six episodes one season six episode second season then like an hour and a half special for the
01:15:56
third season like and we just we just just all these story ideas and characters just dumped out of us in if
01:16:03
that was a week we worked on three projects that week I'd say four out of those seven days like we're just dedicated and we just filled up these
01:16:09
Pages then it goes away for a couple years we have a Olivia and I have kids uh Joe a couple years a couple years
01:16:15
yeah we didn't do anything with it because we because kids uh Joe uh and three other buddies created a show
01:16:20
called detroiters with Tim Robinson and Sam Richardson and our buddies at Cannon and that was on Comedy Central so that
01:16:26
was taking all Joe's Focus um I was doing like little things with like Forte and movies here and there uh
01:16:32
and then Bill Lawrence uh approaches me about doing a project uh we talk about
01:16:38
that that doesn't quite you know uh you know we don't end up doing that but he's like if you have any ideas and I had
01:16:44
like this stack of like 50 pages like a a you know first draft rough draft of a
01:16:49
pilot but then all these different breakdowns of episodes and ideas and whatnot and you want to take a look at this I sent it to him she gave it to
01:16:55
Bill yeah give it to Bill Bill and so that's so to answer your question it's when someone that knows that much about television looks at and goes oh there's
01:17:01
something here oh yeah but you guys can do you guys could do this it's probably 90 there with that to a certain degree yeah I mean a lot of it but not that
01:17:08
Bill's influence wasn't immense and super duper helpful and really was the gas that got this sort of pre like this
01:17:14
old gelato big big in this town huge they almost are more important than the idea or the Stars yeah yeah no it's it's
01:17:21
and he provided all that so so he he really you know got us moving and I look back through the text recently kind of
01:17:27
remind myself of like our own origin the story and it really took you know a good
01:17:32
calendar year for just you know business he had other things going on we had other things going on you know and and you know navigating the deals with and
01:17:39
you mean it was you're talking about NBC on the rights Warner Brothers is where Bill's deal was a show for Apple
01:17:46
um and that was once Apple came on so we pitched it to everyone but Apple was the only one to say we'll take it we'll take a shot at it and then you know then all
01:17:53
the deal making after that once it takes a while so other places you went in with the pitch and they said no thank you
01:17:59
yeah Netflix passed you know Amazon passed I mean it makes like sure I get it like because well until you see it
01:18:04
yeah No One Believes until you see but you did have proof of concept all you need as well but the commercials are pretty Broad and I understand that right
01:18:11
yeah all that can't sustain yeah we tried we did do our darndest to pitch the tone of what it what it was and yet
01:18:16
yeah nobody was nobody was buying it I I don't begrudge anybody really no no Tim
01:18:21
Cook yeah okay but yeah how did you write the British characters though like this the woman who plays
01:18:28
Rebecca yeah is so good I mean all the British people are so good how did you put yourself in how they would react to
01:18:35
the Americans because they're so well written too a little bit was good fortune of of Brennan Joe and I all
01:18:41
getting to work in Europe you know even though it's we the theater you know for varying degrees like Brandon's like off
01:18:47
and on for five years Joe off and on for like two three years me off and on for a year like we're just writing archetypes you
01:18:53
know and and just of like the American you know whatever Spirit uh you know and
01:18:59
the assumptions being made and we'd made jokes about all those stereotypes and assumptions while at Boone Chicago you
01:19:04
know taking the piss out of ourselves so we kind of had that to a certain degree and
01:19:10
and I mean Brits are like you know in a fun way you know one other thing we learned that I feel
01:19:16
like I learned when doing stuff at boom Chicago is how we're that we're more similar than we than we'd like to think
01:19:21
regardless of flag or or you know age or or race gender all the all those things
01:19:26
those those complicated amazing things that make the human jambalaya like at the end of the day you know we we like
01:19:32
salt we like sweet we like you know yeah we're like America yeah yeah but but I mean even across everywhere so so if
01:19:39
there's if there's an archetype of someone that is too positive we I think any of us will assume like oh they're
01:19:45
not they're a nightmare or or right something as bad is going to happen and you just sort of played against those those things you know 75 years or how
01:19:51
many years of sitcoms you know have us thinking that these things are supposed to go this way these things are supposed to go that way and we just try to like
01:19:57
twist them or just turn them just a little tiny bit like nothing again nothing that we thought was so you don't
01:20:03
see everything coming you know some people are smart they think they see everything coming and then you go oh it's a little not what you think yeah
01:20:09
exactly yeah and and I remember feeling that way when watching the documentary about Mr Rogers being like oh boy here
01:20:14
comes the dark turn at minute 50 and then it doesn't then you're like okay oh they're gonna wait until an hour and 10
01:20:19
minutes in then it doesn't you're just like oh he was just a decent man yeah who was trying to make a difference in
01:20:25
children's lives and also adults oh wow there's people that's cool yeah right yeah yeah what do I do about it I mean
01:20:31
obviously like Ted lasso the first season there's a lot of failure yeah in the way and then just the fun of
01:20:38
watching how he navigates it yeah and how he encourages other people to do it like for me the it also it always
01:20:46
reminded me of like Highway to Heaven or you know Touched by an Angel like this idea of London yeah like like that this
01:20:52
person would come in and and you know sort of act this way and people go what the hell is going on here right and it
01:20:57
was like you're right you know that's a good yeah just uh subconsciously I didn't realize at the time but a big thing was about his egolessness like if
01:21:04
you don't no ego no ego if you don't put any if you just play it without any of that he's not he's not trying to get
01:21:09
over on people he's not trying to trick anybody and it's still 100 consistent regardless of people thinking that it it
01:21:15
it's you know different than that now than it was exactly it's like it's that's I talked to someone the other
01:21:21
thing definitely who went on some psychedelic trips with Ayahuasca and or
01:21:26
mushrooms or whatever and it was really all about getting rid of the ego yeah because once the ego goes away then
01:21:33
something has changed this person so it's interesting you mentioned the pad has no ego yeah he's got to change your
01:21:39
mind but Michael pollen was a big influence on me and and the times that I had done you know uh mushrooms you know
01:21:45
in my Amsterdam yeah oh the Amsterdam episode I saw that a couple weeks ago
01:21:51
oh yeah no that's something you have to see that episode you got to watch more than once yeah there's a thank you but
01:21:56
the whole show has so many levels to it it can be slapstick it can be funny and silly and
01:22:02
then it can be very real it's like when you're playing darts you Ted yeah and you go something about I'm just curious
01:22:09
yeah I'll be curious not judgmental yeah the people mention that to you a handful yeah people have asked me to write their
01:22:15
arms and they get a tattoo and it's not his and it's I don't even know if it's Walt Whitman's I mean we say it's Walt Whitman's because it's sort of a
01:22:20
sovereign yeah yeah yeah Robert Frost but it's
01:22:28
always thrown away yeah you know trying to be yeah like because it's he's not too yeah he's not too
01:22:33
you Shepherd it like a sketch in a way I know you have your three other partners by the way there is so many producer
01:22:40
credits on the on the show it's amazing I don't even know I just watched the show wait am I a producer you're on it
01:22:46
it might be you might be able to learn but do you you treat it like so you're probably someone else is technically
01:22:53
directing but you're gonna be you're just going to be an overriding creative force in it just like shepherding a
01:22:58
Sketcher yeah I mean the way I can and it's it's a little bit like it's a big old cookout everybody brings a dish and
01:23:04
I just sort of help put that put things on the plate but the sensibility has to stay wherever you want it to well if you
01:23:10
see I'm sure something sounds false you can stay and say I don't 100 yeah yeah that's that's been afforded to me from
01:23:15
the get-go it's done now right so you miss you're going to miss it I'm sure I will yeah I mean we're still you know
01:23:21
like I still watch cuts for like you know music stuff or or something like
01:23:26
that um but for the most part yeah but all the editing is done all the writing's done uh it's and and now yeah
01:23:32
we have the final four episodes being rolled out and then the you know press here and there which is a joy to do
01:23:37
because like it'll we all get along actually so in the editing Bay you know what they call it so it's sort of
01:23:42
there's so many choices in there and so I would assume coming from all those years of sketch comedy and other things
01:23:48
that and you may have people that are on the same sensibility but sometimes you'll know I assume you're gonna know
01:23:54
well we have to go to that reaction shot a little sooner yes to get to laugh yes so there's all that mathematics in there
01:23:59
and so this show is landing it so consistent I would assume it's either a few people that are right on the same
01:24:05
frequency or one person says guys I think we should do it this way yeah it's there's a reason why it's so brilliant I
01:24:11
I mean I think it's a a just the best idea winning and yeah there's a certain level of Harmony and it is something
01:24:18
that I learned in that same Karate Kid way that I was talking about with SNL where you know by the time by the time you
01:24:25
were there and by the time you were there 20 you know 15 years later all those same people were still there building those sets making those props
01:24:31
Milling those wigs you know and they're all great at it they've done they've done 10 000 hours time you know just our
01:24:36
three generations much less the two prior and then yeah four cents or whatever and like I was like okay I'm gonna my sketch got
01:24:44
picked I'm gonna go into that room with the heads of each department and just let them know what the sketch is about
01:24:49
from my perspective without pontificating without without you know being condescending and just let these Geniuses do whatever they want to do
01:24:55
with it and then you just we have done that with this show like where you and and if you leave a little space for the
01:25:01
people to create behind the camera and in the office and in marketing whatever to lean into this show the same the same
01:25:08
space and and Grace we want to afford the audience as well I think a lot of people get you know feel more ownership
01:25:14
over yeah they're good in their job and you let them do their job and if you hire good people I I like to not worry
01:25:19
about something I like to kick at someone and say you know what you're doing way more than I do when you come in there it's nothing like someone
01:25:25
handing you some something good and you can see it right out basically I get the Robert smile was out for me
01:25:30
yeah you know in terms of it's such a difficult word art or whatever it seems
01:25:36
like there was some and you can talk to this or not an autobiographical changes in the third season based on you
01:25:43
potentially your private life it was you can speak to that or not but I I
01:25:48
couldn't help but notice and I thought it was so wonderfully done because I've been on the road at times with my sons
01:25:53
and stuff like that yeah I mean those are very poignant scenes thank you yeah the what's interesting is
01:26:00
is that my relationship to my life I
01:26:06
like I'm I'm it wasn't there from the very get-go like even when uh the initial idea of
01:26:12
doing a show like why would he go there because a guy like my age would have most likely have a child at least one
01:26:18
child an elite and probably be in a relationship if he's not there's some there's must be a reason why and so
01:26:23
that's why the pilot ends the way a pilot I mean like literally the second it was it was thinking about it in the long form of a television show I was
01:26:30
like I knew that that was the ending of the pilot was going to be okay uh so so
01:26:36
none of that was autobiographical and then his life sort of marched on the only thing that that in my life that
01:26:41
helped inform the playing of things and maybe even the the um the the notion of a story Point uh
01:26:49
when breaking the episodes was have being a father and so what that's like to be away from from your child because
01:26:55
you know Otis and Daisy were you know the season two and season three were in London so I wasn't away from them you
01:27:01
know with with you know the way we we split our time uh with our children it's a week on week off so
01:27:07
um but I was always you know they don't do overtime in the UK so I was home I was able to be home for real yeah yeah
01:27:13
so like they literally afford to the opportunity to make a living I know right yeah and so so I didn't have to
01:27:19
but I but I you know my luckily my I've never had a parent take their own life so you just kind of like have to do the
01:27:25
acting thing of like empathize with someone that has gone through that or has been forced to go through that based
01:27:31
on the decisions um and so yeah it's it's I understand people conflating the two I
01:27:39
don't know it's a good answer that it's not not maybe people are reading in a bit it's a place to go anyway yeah it's
01:27:45
it's what would naturally happen in these things because so much of it for me is is like it's like what happens
01:27:51
when you know if you if you haven't broken up with someone you haven't been broken up with then then there's a whole
01:27:57
bunch of music out there for you once you do there's a whole bunch of movies and TV too whether you're on either side
01:28:02
of that thing uh and and boy you think you like songs now they're gonna get you through things and make you want to jump
01:28:08
off of a roof and think you can fly or yeah the opposite it's a compliment to
01:28:14
your acting too you know but when you have that little soccer field the Lego
01:28:19
set yeah yeah you're missing your you know or just the little references to FaceTime or my son's here right now or
01:28:26
there's where his flight is all that detail yeah so I mean that's just also
01:28:31
having friends that that you know go through all these things and just yeah just keeping keeping those things in
01:28:37
your head heart and soul and letting them bang around there then at some point when they come out they come out you know I think about watch the uh it's
01:28:45
not usually conscious like I I watch the audio commentary for Godfather uh I think it was either one or two just
01:28:51
recently and it was talking about how he made Godfather one and then everybody loved it and he's like you gotta father too he's like I don't have a Godfather
01:28:57
too he's like I don't he goes but I forget the line the studio had to have for us like you found out the the
01:29:02
formula for Coca-Cola and you won't make any more bottles like it's such a great line and and he had this separately he
01:29:09
had this idea about a father and son story where you show the father and son contemporaneously at when they're at the
01:29:15
same age and then that like came down he remembered that and that became
01:29:21
Godfather too you know and so like these things going on in the world and life you know are one thing but it doesn't
01:29:26
necessarily mean it's their time to show up you know Christopher Walken hasn't hasn't showed up to say the lines yet you know and so yeah all right well here
01:29:33
here it is all at this time and so is it
01:29:39
he said to me once um you never leave a hit no
01:29:45
so it's head lasso is it is it done now
01:29:51
this story is done it's it it sounds like such a political answer but it's the truth it's like we only conceive
01:29:56
what you know these these three then this thing became this this big old thing that I mean how much content is
01:30:02
the three seasons if I think of it as a movie or oh gosh I mean it's 10 episodes 12 episodes 12 episodes but this season
01:30:08
is probably twice as long as the first season the episodes are just you know just this longer there's more yeah they
01:30:15
could go back to being an NBC promo yeah exactly you know what I think you could build the natural the Doppler effect I
01:30:20
know what you know how this is some of flight I'm sorry you're interrupting I'm cross-talking
01:30:26
um Tarantino wrote a book after Once Upon a Time in Hollywood which I loved so much
01:30:33
it feels like Ted lasso if there aren't going to be more television that that character people would want to hear have
01:30:40
you thought of that 100 yeah we thought about yeah I mean a novel about that if whether it's that whether it's whether
01:30:46
it's you know doing podcasts about the episodes to sort of you know offer those audio commentaries which I was you know
01:30:52
so lucky to grow up in a day and age of DVDs just to sort of talk yeah a few things and themes and and the people
01:30:58
that have you know uh expressed interest in the show and also explain the show in a much more cerebral cerebral uh away
01:31:05
than I ever would have you know been able to you know explain it to anybody um and even even when they're off or
01:31:12
wrong you know it's still interesting but but yeah I mean you know there's opportunities I think for for spin-offs the way people have have gravitated and
01:31:18
cared for these characters and seen themselves or their friends or their family in these characters in these situations is is
01:31:24
you know we were hoping people would do that we didn't expect it to be what was uh when did you kind of go holy [ __ ]
01:31:31
halfway through the first season or when you won all the 18 Emmy nominations at some point it went even winning the Emmy
01:31:38
or even the nomination for the Emmys didn't I think I don't know man it you know it
01:31:45
came out during quarantine so we didn't know you know because I'm not too active online and less so then I just
01:31:53
a guy would drive by the house when I'm taking out the garbage and Hong hey I love the show oh right and it's a little bit the same way I felt SNL days you
01:31:59
know you walk around on Sunday and people were like great show last night you're like all right people watched someone's watching you know what I mean
01:32:05
terrifying you can get a feel for what works and what doesn't sometimes just out in the real world yeah oh 100 yeah
01:32:11
and it's been it's usually you're getting like slaughtered with it you go oh [ __ ] something's not an Emmy nomination yeah then Apple probably
01:32:17
tells you it's doing well they might not tell you exactly how but it's doing that was the that was a big difference that was that probably is from a business
01:32:23
side of things understanding that they have access to metrics and information that they don't share was uh was it
01:32:29
premiered on a Friday we had already started our writer's room for season two like you know just kind of just in case just in case uh then Monday calls the
01:32:37
the heads of Apple call and say hey so we'd love to pick you up for a second season then two weeks after that we'd love to add can you do two more episodes
01:32:44
two weeks after that we'd love to get you for a third season and you're like something has they know something yeah
01:32:50
that I don't know in the intersect yeah but that anecdotal thing of walking around like became more clear you know
01:32:57
because season two we're we're in lockdown up there in London you know so so you know we started going to things
01:33:03
later yes we were winning these Awards but then you feel like oh is that just inside the the bottle or the bowling the Showbiz box
01:33:10
and uh which is lovely and flattering and also a little something you keep yeah I don't know about you guys but I
01:33:16
keep a little bit like well yeah you're gonna kill do season four no
01:33:21
Crush exactly yeah you don't you don't want to Spook the muses and so by by the time we're going back there to do this
01:33:27
this past third season all of 2022 and getting to take you know the kids to like football matches and stuff and have
01:33:33
people calling us coaches and being excited to see us and like that that I would say a little you know and
01:33:38
hearing Brad Pitt left it yeah that's always nice Piggy and Yoda come on no matter what you do Dana like you've done
01:33:44
it we've done it you hear from the streets like I could tell you the top movies that they like the top TV because
01:33:50
it's just in order you just hear this one the most yes and they probably only really like probably 40 of my movies
01:33:57
like really really live I like them all
01:34:03
[Music] I I want to ask you a question so this is so you're you come on why did I add
01:34:10
that on we have editing capability get rid of anything I say this is what's Curious to me is because I came off like
01:34:17
a rocket I've never had anything because of this 30 years later I'm having a little bit of a moment in Hollywood
01:34:22
nothing that anyone would know about but I'm getting more things coming at me so you come off SNL you're doing all these
01:34:28
movies pandemic is whatever you do this and now here you are you're the bell of the ball uh Hollywood loves you so now
01:34:36
you're wiser more mature what are you what what's coming at you like movies would you do a potato chip commercial if
01:34:43
the price is right 100 with Forte and Solomon yeah you know I couldn't couldn't do it alone
01:34:49
right now that you have this heat and that the audience loves you the world you know you're in this moment and so I
01:34:56
just wondered how because now you're it's happening a second time here it is again yeah it doesn't feel like it from
01:35:02
the inside maybe that's my own just sort of like
01:35:16
a complete you know about face I mean there's a few ideas out there like I was I was really
01:35:22
really wanted to do this uh this play on Broadway with this uh um
01:35:27
but but just with with family it's it's tough it's tough to I'm still trying to navigate those real life things and also
01:35:34
just where where my you know head heart and soul are at and and there's also a great desire to like get
01:35:41
a little bored because I take your time yeah I would say if anybody was advising I would say just don't be in a hurry
01:35:48
this thing's gonna this thing is still you know it's still Landing yeah people are discovering it today would you tell
01:35:55
anyone who hasn't seen it start yeah it's it's it's it and and I believe you know I I believe in that wholeheartedly
01:36:02
I I I I what I truly love is seeing the way um all these great people behind the
01:36:08
scenes uh in front of the camera the way that their lives have changed from it in a way that I was afforded an early
01:36:15
glimpse of that with being hired by SNL you know that that's that that changes the way
01:36:21
folks that maybe yeah weren't supportive of a child taking a path in the Arts mine
01:36:27
were luckily but it changes the game there where it's like you know my my son you know it just works out just anything
01:36:35
on a on it especially if one of their first things is a hit like it's also scary because some people like we used
01:36:42
to talk about when you go on friends and your young actor and your own friends and you don't as much as you tell
01:36:47
yourself you don't know how hard it is after that like it can't be like this all the time you know I wouldn't treat
01:36:52
you like a certain way on anything that does well you look back it's always going to be ups and downs so yeah it's
01:36:58
kind of like what you bring to it like I like I know we work just as hard on you know any of those movies that you that
01:37:03
you named as I did on this I was charged with more responsibility and and being like you know like from the writing side
01:37:10
producing side being the final like tube for you know decision making and you know tone cop and whatnot that's that's
01:37:16
all lovely but at the end of the day what I'm putting out there and what I want to put out into the world is and and how I go about trying to do that
01:37:22
been doing that is you know from any of these sketches you know from the sketches that weren't on SNL that that I
01:37:28
did with you know all my buddies back in Kansas City or your very tight friends as long as
01:37:34
that's coming from that area then it's probably going to be good unless it's I don't know if Quentin turns here or
01:37:40
whoever your favorite director of course hazy but in lieu of anything else yeah it's coming from you it feels it feels
01:37:46
authentic and all I've done is added to the people that I want to make laugh and and be proud of of what I'm doing and
01:37:52
then how I'm going about doing it so it is those guys that I played basketball with you know those guys from my you know quote-unquote crossing the cross
01:37:58
country team but then but then I acquired everything from my you know uh days of improving Kansas City Chicago
01:38:05
boom and so it's just like this that same that same gatefold that same you know that I saw on the 40th like I have
01:38:11
that many people you know behind me and they're not looking over me being like correcting my work or making me second
01:38:16
guess they're just encouraging me and and you just want to kind of be able to look back there metaphorically and be like yeah have them you know doing that
01:38:23
nod of just like yeah do it yeah doing that keep being you know be you just want to be proud of you you know you
01:38:28
want and you also want to feel getting to come through sketch and improv in a whole Community like Chicago could have
01:38:34
happened to ten dozen of the people that I got to work with you know just different times
01:38:43
yeah brilliant and you want to do right by them too because it's it's um
01:38:49
I don't know it's there's so much Whimsy to this game and yeah they're both agree so God go why yeah me have to stay
01:38:56
humble and go I love Paul Newman for that he was my favorite because when
01:39:02
they would go oh you've raised 500 million for from your spaghetti sauce he goes I wish I kept the money you know he
01:39:09
didn't want to be put on yeah a pedestal yeah and the other thing how did you do
01:39:15
it how did you I could give you a thousand answers just plain dumb luck yeah so just those two things uh you
01:39:22
asked about movies that were huge influence it's not it's not a comedy by any means but a big one that shows up in Ted last all the time was Color of Money
01:39:28
like yeah and you know in 1906 so like between my age of nine and eleven I watched these movies that I'd go to
01:39:34
theaters with my dad things that are R-rated you know like movies like
01:39:39
everything that the mental excuse me the the male mentoring in that movie like of
01:39:44
you know it's like and Tom Cruise after you know ladies and gentlemen you know Top Gun
01:39:50
Tom Tom Cruise you know well after Risky Business and All the Right Moves and all that yeah like now he's like a Bonafide like and he's incredible he's he's like
01:39:58
that's when you don't hear enough about color when he was like because he has so many good ones I like I like I love that
01:40:04
movie I was talking about the Ed Norton and I were I saw him recently we're talking about the movie and I I thought I was gonna get laid into when he
01:40:10
started talking about Scorsese because that guy knows that guy's done the thing I forgot more about movies than I'll ever know yeah like and he brings up
01:40:16
color money I go I was so ready to geek out that's my favorite Scorsese movie and a lot of it has to do with the way I
01:40:22
saw it but then also those performances I recommend people to see that movie and then if you love it then go back watch
01:40:28
the hustlers like a prequel yeah you know because yeah where he plays fast Eddie Fels in the
01:40:34
same character you know same guy that wrote the novel Walter Tevis you know who wrote both books I I like pool hall
01:40:40
movies we were going to call this podcast
01:40:47
I've been having a transition with the sound of the balls because there's a Mystique there's a Mystique to people
01:40:53
that can play the piano really well as adults so you've never seen play piano that are really good at Jeopardy yeah you know and and pool like if someone's
01:41:00
good at pool like especially if they didn't grow up with money they didn't grow up with a table in there like how do you get good the way they do the
01:41:05
chalk and the way it goes perfectly on their hands the math of it it's so complicated fool but you know the the
01:41:12
dramatic movies uh affected me 2001. it wasn't everything watching John the winners and stuff those things I don't I
01:41:18
wouldn't say could I do that or was this like just blew my mind yeah as art and the Beatles of course Pink Floyd Tom
01:41:25
Hanks and Michael Keaton movies like where they're just where they're funny 15 of the movie but it's like they're
01:41:30
carrying this dramatic narrative like Mr Mom like Mr Mom is incredible Mr Mom is
01:41:36
it a father I love it it's just a magic as an actor yeah you know I love that
01:41:42
was a movie in my basement but again and Michael
01:41:48
Keaton like was so he's great I mean hey man Thomas like that like like just they
01:41:53
were these these modern versions yeah John Hanks what do you guys think of punchline
01:42:01
who trained him Barry soulbow um did a great idea I mean they did a
01:42:09
great job yeah it's it's such an interesting like having I guess one that we could talk about all together is like
01:42:15
you know Studio 60 like when they when when someone makes a a film or television show about your world like
01:42:20
we're very blessed to have a a bunch of the football soccer Community having you know taking us under their wing and
01:42:26
embraced us in a way that again we weren't you know jockeying for but the fact that we got it authentically and
01:42:32
organically like really really high floats our boat yeah we're very very pleased about that it's hard to make a movie about stand-up you know I know and
01:42:39
I think distance running there's never been Chariots of Fire not really difficult to recapture that I think
01:42:45
usually there is the Meltdown and then the Mind well hello mine feeds back yeah and the comedian has a meltdown yeah
01:42:51
which of course Tom Hanks is a brilliant actor played it perfectly yeah but I've never seen that well they also have locker rooms and then there's a squeak
01:42:58
and wasn't there a locker
01:43:08
it's hard to do it like if someone they talk about doing a dramatic show about a
01:43:13
sketch show yeah when they did I love the pilot and then
01:43:18
video 60. Yeah It's just tough tough to capture that that was all I watched yeah it is it's very it's it is what are the
01:43:25
movies you revisit now Pulp Fiction is a big one like uh I think Die Hard is
01:43:31
perfect why'd you say the second one die hard I think die hard again like my wife
01:43:36
and I had uh you know we watch a lot of Redford you know all the presidents yeah
01:43:44
um Butch casting Sundance can I show to my my sons six months ago this is awesome you know it's really fun
01:43:51
you have all that ahead of you how old are your kids uh Otis is nine Daisy seven yeah so you're is he asked for
01:43:57
Save A Private Ryan yeah yeah no no but but I do show them I remember my dad
01:44:02
taking me to see Beverly Hills Cop in the theater I saw that movie yeah in the theaters with my dad not supposed to F
01:44:08
words all over the place you know never forget and never forget it and it made me like I wanted to be Eddie Murphy so
01:44:15
bad so bad so bad I like you know and and more so than than like Chevy Chase and Fletch I I loved you know Chevy
01:44:21
Chase but like but better but Axel Foley really like knocked my socks off in a way that still does when I when I read
01:44:27
it and they're coming out with a new one right or is that I guess but you know we'll see we'll see what happens yeah but at least we got the I love the
01:44:33
animals Animal houses my uh R-rated one they show the girls I know I know it's heavy duty and it was
01:44:40
pretty great exactly in the middle of the movie I go we have a boner it was so illicit so nasty and
01:44:49
Monty Python Monty Python was that was that was pretty young orange yeah that
01:44:54
scared me saw the longest day when I was seven in the theater black and white World War II film yeah
01:45:01
sorry Little Broken Germans you see the fablemans the Spielberg one I haven't watched it I watched it on the plane
01:45:07
right what do you think I loved it really yeah I mean it is Spielberg telling you know autobiographical like
01:45:14
his story but just his love of movies and and having children that are falling you know in love with storytelling and
01:45:20
getting to see their mom and dad do it and and and um you know so much I feel of and I
01:45:26
understand the laments of over nepotism but so much of it is is seeing someone do it and see them enjoying it or seeing
01:45:33
the way people enjoy them yeah I I you know nothing that I I've purchased or
01:45:39
have been given on a plane will move Otis towards wanting to be do what I do
01:45:45
for a living more than him probably seeing people give me as many high fives as they do when I go to when we go or
01:45:51
anything yeah we're not happy to see when people are happy to see you they're being polite and and begin because of
01:45:57
the themes of this show they're like yeah I mean it's something that we I mean how often have we had the opportunity for people that work in
01:46:03
comedy to have people tell them take them aside and be like I I discovered this I watched this when I was going
01:46:08
through this and it helped me that's the thing it's like if you were famous for I want to pick on porkies but or something like that hard arm weirdo movie that
01:46:16
everyone loved but with lasso Teddy with Teddy you um you know the
01:46:23
people are going to be emotional about it because it touches everything yeah Hannah gets that a lot who played the woman who plays Rebecca just the amount
01:46:29
of women that come up to her and just like you are playing me yeah and just a force in nature obviously so the thing I
01:46:35
was going to say earlier about the the the the writers you know we let we let all the Brits anglicize things every now and
01:46:41
then do we do we push back where it's just like car park versus parking lot or saying Thai instead of draw and some of
01:46:46
those things drive people crazy and I understand that but that's just you know this is the phrase that I would always use just so folks in Kansas can get it
01:46:52
so you're trying to like to get too much in the weeds of like right the the politics you don't want to lose yeah
01:46:58
because I think if if you're dominating emotion is confusion then you're that much further away from either being
01:47:03
happy or sad you talk like Ted lasso sometimes say that again if your
01:47:09
dominant emotions are I like your confusionating emotions if your dominant emotion is confusion you're you're that
01:47:15
much further away from me making it on if the audience is really confused then they don't know whether to laugh or or
01:47:20
cry at a given moment so yeah you kind of try to give them breadcrumbs with me during tennis that's nice exactly you
01:47:27
know just most my domination was anger Juno Temple yes ma'am
01:47:32
well though I just I like all the these two actresses especially are great obviously see Brit Goldstein just the
01:47:39
way he stands all the time you know you're a gunslinger yeah he's
01:47:44
he's just funny he's a funny funny voice I'm sure it's not something or someone's gonna do him on SNL I know I'm surprised
01:47:50
they haven't yet so yeah I'm really surprised yeah such a funny character yeah but that's all him you know it's fun to hear him talk about because it's
01:47:56
him doing bill Sykes in his mind from Oliver he's just you know just trying to be Bill Sykes you know just like and so
01:48:02
yeah when I'm doing like rewrites or were you breaking stories just like the same thing at the rewrite table at SNL just doing bad impressions of all these
01:48:08
like very specific you know authentic people I'm just you know talking like this with Rebecca and doing like that
01:48:14
okay and I'm doing bad I can't do any of these accents you're just hearing the rhythm of the Cadence of it and you know
01:48:20
trying to draw from what they're you know what you and then when did you decide life experience one more question
01:48:26
what did you decide that you would uh use uh R-rated language was that pretty
01:48:33
early on yeah use it you don't lean on it but all of a sudden it's like these [ __ ] Coke mostly from him yeah but
01:48:40
that's an interesting 100 didn't want to use it myself I didn't want him to be yeah you know all those moves that you
01:48:46
you know I sort of got and I mean I was making these choices you know for for the reasons I made them you know the
01:48:51
movies that I was doing and the characters I was playing a lot of them were cats you know guys on the make you know like um trying to trying to get uh uh girls
01:48:59
and what like dick fuel yeah exactly exactly like he just wanted respect you know he just wants to respect and a
01:49:04
paycheck and a good lunch uh but like uh but then so I knew that lay on for me I didn't
01:49:10
want to be body and I didn't want to I didn't want him to swear if he did it was only you know I think he's done it once every season
01:49:16
um and but everybody else it's like yeah that's just the world you know as as it is and so we just wanted to it just
01:49:22
worked yeah apple never fought it they didn't want us to use the c word um um so we we there was a monologue
01:49:27
thrown around in England more I mean it's like and that was the whole premise it
01:49:33
was like you know we were even ready to beep it you know but it was May the the you know the woman who owns the the bar uses it very casually and uh and in
01:49:41
reference to uh to Ted wanted to see where yeah and and and just Ted and Beard's reaction to whoa hey you know
01:49:48
she's like what what's the big deal you know and just we're going no you can use it in a bunch of different ways and she goes through a bunch of different ways
01:49:54
you know it reminds me a lot of like when we it ended up not being able to use it because Apple was like no you know we can't use a c word I was like
01:49:59
all right um was you remember uh uh Schneider's stand-up bit from Days Gone By of the
01:50:05
word dude dude yeah yeah is that that great that idea I like that you remember that oh yeah yeah or that was it you're
01:50:12
on that special too I think is that all the young comedians oh yeah that thing got a lot of a lot of things closet with
01:50:17
a knife dude yeah yeah Rob has some reasons
01:50:31
he's doing me with the U2 concert oh what is it Bono's yelling no no war I'm
01:50:38
saying no more you're saying no more what are you saying War sorry I I don't know I didn't know who the [ __ ] is
01:50:43
singing I'm supposed to read his list
01:50:50
that's a bad Bond when what's your brain candy when do you want to calm down what do you do take a walk do you watch a I
01:50:57
do you watch the best of David Spain you do now um I do um I mean I'll play
01:51:05
the last few years has been pinball was one for uh you know a while but those are tougher to move around right so so
01:51:10
playing video games like playing you know Fortnight with like friends and just you know turning my brain off and just focusing on that and then a thing
01:51:17
that I got into over the last like I mean I'd always been into it but over the last you know six years basically uh
01:51:22
it was like magic like just shuffling cards like just I just find it very meditative and and a lot of times when
01:51:28
in situations where I have to do as much you know listening and thinking as I do talk and I'll usually have a deck of
01:51:34
cards on me because will keep me from you know pulling out my beer you know just practice shuffling yeah yeah we're
01:51:40
just we're just kind of like you know doing like little hand moves and I don't really perform magic for anyone I just I just I'll do it for like friends after a
01:51:46
couple beers or like my kids if there's just like a deck laying around but I've never been wanting to be hey you want to see a tricks David
01:51:55
um yeah I don't know actually in 30 years see I envy that I wish I could I I
01:52:02
know before I before I die I know I will dedicate more time to like trying to
01:52:08
play the piano I've done it throughout my life and then something always but it's just that desire to want to run before I can even crawl yeah it's so
01:52:15
hard I know it's tough you know I I have an electric piano too I'm just banging on it all the time but I don't you know
01:52:21
but the guitar if you get nylon strings get a small guitar just learn because it doesn't rip up your fingers yeah before
01:52:27
you get the calluses so you get a clear note rather it's all mushy yeah learn five chords yeah C D E minor and then
01:52:35
songs no but it's really simple the Smoke on the Water is still the
01:52:40
go-to one or is that too old that age juice so hard Spain I don't even know what it is no that's a deep purple isn't
01:52:47
it I'm young don't act like you don't know what Smoke on the line don't make me older
01:53:10
I listened to them a ton before doing the season uh for one reason or another
01:53:16
and um I got and Otis was learned you know playing guitar him and Daisy take these
01:53:21
these like lessons do this thing out here called killer oh it's lovely it's like School of Rock but it just called it when you're young you learn so much
01:53:27
better and and I I bought a I'm left-handed even though I don't play guitar but I would play I air guitar left hand that's
01:53:34
hard yeah exactly or or Kurt Cobain so I bought like a guitar and try and Otis and I took a lesson together he was
01:53:40
already better than me and I was slowing him down and I'm just like even playing it smells like teen spirit so hard so
01:53:46
difficult and and then even if you play the simple version of it like it hurt my fingers I couldn't like drums are much
01:53:53
more natural fit for me I have better limb separation you could also get us a maple necks uh Strat and have them
01:54:00
that's a bird David this is inside baseball it's a strat it's a Caster the
01:54:07
nylon strings was a mind blower here because I was like oh yeah also was very a lightweight strings on an electric
01:54:13
guitar um you could play bar chords of that really it's still hard yes it's like
01:54:18
it's like let's make it possible even people that don't that just do it noodling around make it look so easy it
01:54:26
it it's a look well the next time we hang out next time I'll show you just a d chord and then a barge I'll
01:54:33
bring R3 now I'll bring a pinball we have a little farm up up north and uh
01:54:39
I want a room with pinball machines in it because it's worth at least as a kid they were huge I've not played it in a
01:54:45
while but in a pool table Jason so Teddy was our guest today and he in summation
01:54:51
the left brain lived at Burger King he's one of Kansas's favorites he's got a
01:54:58
very small room yep at the Paramount Hotel a small room uh we don't normally sum up his next thing is going to be
01:55:04
something with low pressure he might remake The Godfather or something um our guess has been uh just ridiculous
01:55:09
you were great I thought your car is murdered out by the way not bad yeah not bad I wanted to look yeah like a
01:55:16
Batmobile SNL All-Star movie star and now a global
01:55:21
live streaming star I said star three times yeah it sounds
01:55:26
like a nice resume I just very cool the best and take your time and have fun and and I'm one of those people that was
01:55:33
really affected by the show and just love it just really affects me that was effective it makes me laugh
01:55:40
we're gonna work on you that was a work in progress no I'm not looking I took notes no one works thank you Justin
01:55:48
Justin Thoreau has been our job oh no Billy sadakis is here today
01:55:57
wasn't he like a baseball player Sudeikis is that Greek or what's that Lithuanian litha who lithua yeah
01:56:06
Lithuanian Lithuanian but yeah I'm throwing this away hear your whole past story yeah you did
01:56:14
you didn't finish that I dated a girl in hallway
01:56:19
oh you dated he likes the other story better oh um
01:56:25
oh in in Vegas the girls that they go you're my you're
01:56:30
my hall pass you get the meet and greet and I go first off they're all nervous these hands drenched like a sham well
01:56:36
I'm like and then I go and they go I'm here I'll pass you're my helpers I go oh and they go that's where I get I go no I
01:56:44
know what it is I'm a hard pass on my side you're a hard bet you're my hard pass yeah
01:56:50
I saw you in the back I go there's my hard pass
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