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beer that's the next one here's good ready here's Birds right what about something
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that's you waking up in the morning [Laughter] so I do the hand so it gives a sense of
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okay sure and I shouldn't even bring this out here because you don't deserve
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it there's a bird flying away thank you here's an old-fashioned dial phone for you ancient
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okay bring bring hello yes oh what's that I tried to beat it louder can you do this
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sound like Predator it's just sort of a no okay can you do this sound can you do
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this uh can you do an octopus watch laughs can you do Anthony Hopkins and uh as Hannibal Lecter
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I I can spell them God I once did Garth you can tell him Garth I did go I played
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Gars and and Anthony Hopkins played Hannibal Lecter and we would entertain the crew on a movie we did together I
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can smell you goth I can smell Wayne other guard let me be like oh hey man hey you guys
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it's all you got to do is the jaw I'm gonna Kristen wig at the 40th goes why
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does he hold his mouth that way she seemed a little upset from a woman in his 100 characters I'm a lap machine I
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do voices and effects to make people happy Dana Dana who is married you were married in 1950 57 1957 I got married
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and no I met her at 19 when she was 19. I raised her as one of my own that's
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nice that's what Elvis did with me hey Priscilla uh you're 14. you gotta wait
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four more years from Berlin when she was 20. she wasn't sexy anymore okay it's
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like a burger damn sandwich Lorraine Newman is on the show today and uh yes I knew him in one of the OG's from SNL
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um very lucky I would say to hit that lightning time of being on the show that just blew the [ __ ] up and she has a a
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true adorableness level like there's something very sweet about her she's
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cute you know when you're in college stuff you'd like to all the all the
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women I don't know if women understand how much men find smart funny women attractive David yeah you're the
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bachelor Tina Fey have a crush on Tina there's a lot of girls out there that
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just got that smart funny thing and uh they don't even need to be Robin Williams they just they have a clever
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thing about them sort of charismatic deal that I like now and that being said I don't understand where are we going
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she is one of the original oh yeah members of the original cast the rock stars of the from 1975 on Lauren
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Michaels Cadre of funsters Cadre Cadre of funsters that's another podcast work with Belushi
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Aykroyd Garrett Morris Chevy Chase like what a fun Jane Curtin mixed bag kill the right people she was a conehead for
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crying out loud that's really what I'm going for she's a conehead and I did the
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Conan's movie and I didn't get to wear a cone and what you know what did you when
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did you first get that hey wait a minute their heads look like cones and that's
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why they're called Coneheads when did you realize that um one second in um did
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anyone take long so let me give you a quiz Pop Quiz if their heads were oblong shaped what would they be called oblong
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heads yes okay if they're how about this did you know that Arby's is because of
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roast beef RB nope you did not well no slow down by three quarters RB Rhythm and RB RB RB roast beef that's
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why it's called Arby's oh got it okay I didn't know toe goes was because it's
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to go I didn't know that do you know Jack in the Box is called that because the owner jacked off in a box
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I didn't know that no but I did jack off in a box once let's look at a clip my mother's maiden
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name was McDonald's all those late nights is that weird all right we better get to uh Lorraine Newman I adore her
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she's so funny and so Charming um I did a benefit once she was there brought her daughter daughter's a big
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star too but on the show don't say what one I won't say which one her daughter
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was like 10 and I was up there and I was kind of at the latter stages of my teen
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idolness and so later on Lorraine I ran into her at the West Side a comedy club in Santa Monica and she goes you were my
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daughter's first sort of crush on a an adult figure and uh that was kind of flattering all right we got that
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story in you guys here's Lorraine Newman that's my best story [Music] you know what I'll give Lorraine a
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compliment right off the bat right ready everyone loves Lorraine Lorraine look you have a great voice and
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um not that I'm flirting but when you when women say what or people say what
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do you like about women one of my weird things is not that weird but aside from the basics oh I like this this that all
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guys like a voice is very interesting because it's very unique on every person
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and even as you get older people recognize your voice like they know mine from The Emperor's New Groove which was
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a cartoon movie I did a long time ago and so when I'm in 7-Eleven people no attention no touchy everybody in my
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family all my kids know that reference oh they know that you ever think did you ever think no but I was telling that
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whole story just to get to see if that they knew my movie um but uh no but you have a recognizable
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voice David do you have a recognizable and she has a good voice that's uh right
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Lorraine has a very seductive uh smooth uh feminine voice you know where it really came in handy e Buzz Miller
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weren't you the the girlfriend or something Christy Christina a character that I never understood why anybody
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thought that was funny I never ever thought that character was funny I just was like you know well they gave me the
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part I'm gonna do the best I can and uh they even made this kind of peace that that gave me those
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boobs with the you know the little bullet nipples because it was actually a rubber piece that went you know under
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the leotard it's a weird meaning and they probably don't have any more uh who knows yeah well okay Lorraine
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when you do when you do a part like that I think SNL people want to and we can talk about anything but on the SNL tip
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when Dana and I have been in that in that mix and it's probably similar when
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you were there but is that Danny Aykroyd is writing something up or someone else
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they walk by knocking your door and go hey do you want to be in this thing we're writing it up it's Tuesday night
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where you play is that kind of how it goes the way that it went with you is exactly
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the way it went with us I remember listening to Andy Samberg on a radio show and he talked about the schedule
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like Monday meet meet the host pitch some ideas Lauren says work on that everybody works until Wednesday yeah
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she'll read through you know the whole thing choosing what you know build the
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sets I mean and you guys didn't have they probably ironed out a lot of the problems you probably had a little
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rougher as far as oh yeah yeah well we didn't we we didn't have word process we
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didn't have I wasn't there during uh being online and stuff so I did go back
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to host at one point Bill Hader and John Mulaney were there and they're like oh
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we'll we'll click up this sketch that you did from dress that was cut in 1987
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so they have everything in a database and I I you know when you never know what's going to land with people so I
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had done a sitcom with Mickey Rooney and is the freakiest person ever you know hysterical I have a Mickey Rooney story
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I just took Mickey's lines or some sketch Bonnie and Terry Turner were doing old-fashioned movie stars so I
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just told them stuff Mickey had said I was the number one star in the world you hear me bang the world so I just did
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Mickey's lines and I had prosthetic makeup so I go there and Bill Hader and John Mulaney they
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just go our favorite thing you've ever done is Mickey Rooney so just one of those things well that's a
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great impression of him what what is the language code on this show oh you can tell everyone what the [ __ ] dude
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what were you saying so I did a movie that um I had had nightmares that had been released and I would wake up
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sweating um and it was called uh revenge of the Red Baron and it was the kind of thing
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where I said to my agent just ask for this amount of money they'll never agreed to it and be over well they
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agreed to it and it was a Roger it was a Roger Corman movie okay and I'm thinking
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well you know Catherine Bigelow started with Roger Kerman but no this was some schlepper that had been cutting his
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movies for 20 years but Toby Maguire played my son um Clifty young was in it and a lot of
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it was written by Mike McDonald from the Groundlings in Mad TV okay so it would be good and there were some Groundlings
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in it and so I thought you know kind of safe Mickey Rooney would say those things you know I was the biggest star
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and then as he's as he's hitching his trousers he when I was having my single
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and he was in my peripheral vision he would spit in his hand and make masturbatory gestures and then squirt
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the spit out of his hand like it was semen talk about in a picture thank you thank you yes yeah can you imagine I
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thought I was the only one that did that on sets that's always I know we shouldn't speak ill of the Dead no not
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at all he was just the most bitter person it was so funny he had a 38 revolver with him and he would pull it
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out out sometimes this script is Kaka and he's kind of waving it around he uh
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she's reliving in her head I would go to work it would be Rockefeller Center on
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the sixth floor six years before I got on the eighth floor and I'd hear him down the hallway
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you know Judy Garland never owned her car and then he would get really close to your face because they pumped her so
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full of drugs that killed her he would talk until the air there was no more air left and
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um once you've worked with Mickey I mean Nathan and I had so many stories about
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working with Mickey but yeah he could be crude he said he had an idea of her show
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where every character's name was a swear word and he would act it out for like 20
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minutes hello Mrs [ __ ] I'm Mr [ __ ] how are you [ __ ] and it went on for
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like 20 minutes I could get that sold well I actually saw him say to an actor um have you accepted Jesus Christ as
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your personal savior hey would you look at the tits on that one you know I was like right
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you know and he was phoning it in he was in Sugar Babies on Broadway doing the sitcom so we'd have to act to this guy
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who's like 30 years old but was five feet tall all week long we rehearse with
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him and Mickey would have giant cue cards he was just and he would always had cash because he'd been broke for
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decades and sugar babies he was making money and on the sitcom so he'd pull out
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like five thousand dollars and put it right up to your face and go think I can afford lunch oh my God there's too many
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stories we don't want to make it all serious what were you doing on the sixth
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floor for four years I was doing a really long story short I was doing uh stand up in San Francisco
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NBC people came up I had kind of this uh uh innocent uh Timmy Lassie look going on I was kind of funny whatever so I got
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to deal with NBC a holding deal fifty thousand dollars up front against things I would be doing I was on the Marie
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Osmond variety show as a wow as a sketch player for like a day uh but anyway uh then all of a sudden I got a call from
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NBC you're gonna play Mickey Rooney's grandson on a sitcom in New York and
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Nathan Lane had auditioned in La we flew back out on a 747 George Burns was playing cards anyway everything was good
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and it was in Rockefeller Center on the sixth floor and then I would go up to the eighth floor on Thursdays watching
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them run through the thing Joe Piscopo and Eddie Murphy and going oh man I want to be up here but I was cast as a
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straight man for many years because I just had I had no confidence I had no I had ambition but I had no real
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confidence which kind of comes full circle a little bit to your story when I'm watching Saturday Night Live from 75
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to 80 uh you're you were the Beatles you were you were rock stars you were more
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than comedians because you were the first and I was so in awe of the show the idea that I would be on it and I
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don't know how you felt because you get on and the show's not the show yet it's
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still maybe it'll get canceled yeah so can you just talk a little bit about that very very bare beginning were you
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there for the first show of the 75 season you're there and who's with you
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is everyone there Chevy everybody's there um and the last uh like you know the 11th hour it was between Billy and
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Chevy yeah which killed me because I had never um seen Billy except I I he was one of
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the first people I met my first friend was Gilda Radner and she took me up to uh a recording
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session for a National Lampoon album the one that's called that's not funny
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that's sick so I'm on that album but I meet Harold Ramis and Chris guest and
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Randall Murray and Bill Murray and so I got a sense of what Billy had and then I
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saw his audition I'm thinking oh boy you know and then they chose Chevy wait they
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were they couldn't fit they couldn't have both of them and that's that's what
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I thought that's what I had hoped but they had Belushi and Aykroyd yes already
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yeah they felt like well now they have 32 cast members that they could how many was it with you guys seven so
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explosive I mean I really want to talk through this a lot but just for a second I I just because of everyone's uh love
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of Gilda Radner and your whole cast but what but she just seems so likable I mean was she just really fun and just a
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genuine I mean all of you and Jane you know know I don't know there's just a
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likability of that whole cast but to speak to Gilda for a second well um she was a really good person that's nice and
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uh she was the person that you know made a fuss over your birthday and just um very sweet you know she and I found
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ourselves in some pickles which I talk about in my book oh and what is the name of the book maybe we'll get a big
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following here may you live in interesting times and um you know one was that when we did the
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New Orleans live from New Orleans special technology you know for doing green screen and shifting from one set
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to another was like a minute old and everything that could have gone wrong did but the days before during the
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rehearsal process Gilda and I were put into a room in a building at a part of town we did not know where we were we
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were scared to go out because we were literally getting mobbed and we were in this room with nothing but chairs and a
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trash can with one of those Lids that used to step on a pedal and the lid goes up
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they've forgot about us for four hours we're in this room for four hours and
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Gilda turned that trash can into a puppet because that's the kind of person she was you know nice and uh God there's
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just so many times that she and I for some reason you know but we also just um you know would have breakfast together
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before we went into work and that's you know I think it comes across and I I don't know if Lauren honed this
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later or you think about there's the funny part there's a likability part and
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then there's the Charisma and finally there's how might they work together you
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know uh well they you know kind of like a sitcom you know you have this this key
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piece this piece this piece but I think everyone who's gone through that you
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never lose a certain kind of bond with your cast especially Unknown People not famous at
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all no money at all going on this television show and I was 10 years later in 86 but you don't you still feel that
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as pre decor with with your original cast if you run into danak reuter whoever or you know it's an
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extraordinary experience as you know it is an extraordinary experience and I always liken it to a Lifeboat where you
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know you all survive something some of us didn't but you all survived something that was very extraordinary I
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was I was on Dennis Miller's show a couple weeks ago and we talked about the
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very same thing and I he mentioned the movie The Right Stuff which I think of this scene every time people ask about
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the camaraderie of the cast and the closeness where they're backstage I think Lyndon Johnson is introducing them
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many times yes that scene where they're backstage and they're all just kind of
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looking at one another like I guess we we did this thing that nobody else has ever done yeah you know and obviously
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I'm not comparing our show space exploration but you know it was the same feeling well I would say you know uh
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without that analogy but in terms of Show Business uh especially as the show grew live I remember just doing a cold
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opening and one as the president or whatever and just the whole weight of the show is
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on you and then there's that Joe disco fight disco five seconds and you're just
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you're like floating and then you're then your card and hoping that you're
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articulating that is a lot of pressure you know I think in in Show Business I don't know if there's any more anything
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that currently exists live like that and they won't came from that background I'm
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sorry what did you say about uh everything I say is important so everyone has to listen closely
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um I was just saying that when Dana and I were on there was a chance you could get famous
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or being just being on it you would get a little bump in Fame even if you suddenly didn't click or whatever but
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with you guys you seem like a very sweet woman and Gilda and all those people together and not knowing that it's such
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a Whopper and and getting the biggest hit out of it that anyone's gotten must
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message your head like you were saying just walk in the street or getting breakfast and you feel like do I deserve
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this or why what's going on here and why are so many people thinking this is so
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great even though you think it's fun but I think it I don't think anyone can prep
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for that well you kind of I mean since you're part of this era it really when you
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think about um the evolution of Comedy from Laugh-In and Lauren used to say it's [ __ ]
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Carol Burnett I'm sure he loves Carol Burnett but he but he had a thing about
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breaking in scenes when we were there didn't want you to break yeah but the rock and roll George Carlin Richard
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Pryor thing had started and then it all of a sudden this sketch show manifests itself with this kind of post 1960s
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early 70s comedy sensibility right what was alt comedy that's what I've come to
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realize is that yes you had your show of shows in Carol Burnett and you know laughing but those were really
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mainstream and written by actors writers that were not our age did not have our references or sensibility and this was
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truly uh an amalgam of a bunch of really great minds like Michael O'Donoghue and
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Herb sergeant and you know Franklin and Davis and all these amazing people whose
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tone and style had never been seen before and then you also have the references that we all came with I mean
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you know I came with these characters that I had done at the Groundlings and so you act you know you talk about the
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format that's exactly what I came from as doing a sketch running off stage in
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the dark changing my costume coming back in the dark lights come up and you go I
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mean that's what I came from and that's you know Jane came from the proposition
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you know uh Gilda came from Second City in the Lampoon show so you know we all had that background
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[Music] did you um were you the first or one of the first on television to do the valley
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girl voice kind of or it it feels like I mean because that is still around and it's it's organic you're welcome uh yeah
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how did you how did you hatch that where did that come from that was in your early growling time I had always noticed
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even in high school that the people from the valley spoke differently and my twin
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brother was a surfer he still is actually and um so I'd go to the beach with him every once in a while and you
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know there was this whole thing about the valley Surfers versus the Malibu Surfers and the West Side Surfers and
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you know but I did my ear picked up because I'd always loved dialects I'd
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always picked up on them there was you know when I was four years old there was an Orange Julius stand in in Westwood
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Village run by this Scottish couple who would say things to me like would you like your hot dog steamed or grilled and
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I would just you know grab onto that kind of you were doing that at age four I wasn't doing it I was noticing it yeah
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you know but then I was I did start doing dialects very young but uh that was yeah I started hearing that Valley
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accent and realizing that it was a very unique accent so many people have used it I mean it's
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just yeah were you I I'm I'm familiarized me with your take on it did you do the thing oh
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my God or how did you process it that became later I don't know who did that
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but no I think that uh Moon Unit did oh my God okay um but um you know I break down that dialect in
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my book and um which is called you should have an interesting life may you live an interesting time now you live an
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interesting life right now on everywhere books are sold Ray Newman audible um and uh you know contractions like
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wouldn't shouldn't or couldn't would become one shouldn't and couldn't you
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know and ing endings were e-en so I'm going there and things like that it's
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just and then there was also words like bitching and super that came before you know like in my monologue uh in The
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Godfather group there for sketch I said you know I had to get super reflective you know it was that that was the
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language and the dialect that I kind of that was great oh yeah that is still around that was like super reflective
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can do that again I had to get super reflective God even that like voice grainy um that that's out there too with every
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girl in The Bachelor but yes Lorraine what is underneath that I just want to know for a second the process I mean
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like someone who talks like that is it is it an elitism or is it uh trying to be cool
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or what what is kind of behind someone who would change their voice like I'm just
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thinking out loud like I don't think people change their voice to it I don't
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think they change their voice to it I think that it becomes ubiquitous yeah and there's a is there a charm to them
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sexuality to it is I'm just wondering why where it came from but anyway we may
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never figure that out exactly it doesn't charm me one [ __ ] bit but does the
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stoner dude the male version was like most likely what you're talking about man this is crazy dude if she does that
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then everything even moon it's all sort of a spin-off of that ground laying the
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groundwork like you know someone doing Lauren the first time or Christopher Walken and everyone's kind of doing that
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version but you're laying everyone's like oh that's a thing now so they're
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kind of playing off that one and building on it he loved that character he absolutely
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loved it and wanted to do something with it and it just never happened and he's
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also he was from Cucamonga he was from the valley so he absolutely you know I did him once on the show and Michael
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Michael Thomas did such a great job with my makeup and I came out of the room and
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Eric Clapton was in the hallway sorry folks name dropping but that's what Saturday Michael Thomas he was my guy
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brilliant funny so [ __ ] funny vampire teeth for me Diddy oh Michael Thomas for
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everyone listening was one of the quintessential brilliant makeup artists and he could move so fast and do little
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things and you'd sit in the chair and you'd get more and more into character
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and he would keep doing stuff and then he had such a funny ear I was doing a show a few years later and I was asked
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to do all these classic Impressions like Groucho Marx it was a Easter special I was rich little and I didn't really have
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of him and so he he taught me Jack Benny and then I would go out and do Jack Benny and he said that's how you do
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Groucho so he also had an ear and he loved monsters but God Rest his soul yeah loved him loved him so glad you had
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a connection with him he was such a great you did you start the Groundlings or you were part of the founding people
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yeah one of the founding members that's great that's so cool yeah who knew so SNL is like the
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Groundlings but suddenly when you leave everyone has seen it it's so funny you
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can do a a sketch walk in your room and someone could text you and say great one
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I was in Oklahoma I just saw it you're like such a mind blower yeah there's a
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there's a thing going on in the growlings now where people would stay in the main company and they just wouldn't
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leave and even though it's like you know they're on series television now they
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just don't leave so that what they started to do to get them to leave was to do a retrospective and a celebration
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to just and I always marveled at the technology because they had the the you know
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ability to film their sketches and we did our 40th anniversary the the people from the 1970s we just did straight
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improv because there was no we had never filmed any of our sketches but later on
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of course everybody had you know early Melissa McCarthy early Kristen Wiig early Maya Rudolph you know it was just
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great stuff to see I wish that when I was there and it was sort of with all of us
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if you missed a sketch then you waited for the rerun six months later and if the uh if you missed it again you might
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have been in the best of in the summer but that's a long shot and now I don't
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get to see the show as much so if Monday on Yahoo News or wherever you are on your computer sometimes it just says yes
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here's a sketch from and they give you the best one and then you go oh the show
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is pretty funny still even though who knows how much of the show it's always
00:28:05
like hit and miss but you that keeps it alive I think that's a big part of why
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it's still out there and still killing it well now it's uh 1.6 billion YouTube
00:28:14
hits last year for their season which is extraordinary and then now it's now it I
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don't know if it still is but peacock I think you can watch it live at 8 30 on
00:28:23
the west coast so uh it's it's evolved in so many ways the interesting part
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about you and Gilda and and Jane being the first women and there's all these
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you know the the society has evolved and we were talking to Ana gasteyer who's
00:28:40
another great performer uh and just the idea that how many women have emerged in
00:28:46
such a big way in the last 20 years is some of the ones you were mentioning but it was three on your cast Then There
00:28:53
Were there was those intermediate casts I know Julie Louise Dreyfus was on we had
00:28:58
um Jan Hooks Nora Dunn and Victoria Jackson oh yeah Jim hooks we she's Supernatural
00:29:05
Jan Hooks so unbelievably funny yeah just just balls out funny oh God and and uh funny
00:29:17
off stage we had so many laughs we would just get you know when you get so tired
00:29:21
in a stressful job like that you get laughed laugh laughing fits oh yeah like like your little kids I remember one
00:29:28
time Phil had a suit on the late great Phil Hartman and we called them the glue because he was like our Danny Aykroyd or
00:29:34
something yeah what do you what do you need this week you know and he didn't
00:29:38
even it was effortless for Phil but Jan and I just saw his his tie or something we've just it's like we were stoned we
00:29:44
were so tired it is you're just so weak you can't not laugh I have a question about Lorraine
00:29:54
about you know we had in our run Chris Farley you guys had John Belushi and Jen Chris looked up to John so much
00:30:03
um because they were sort of you know bigger guys and physic very very physical I remember even in in wardrobe
00:30:11
he would find pants for a sketch and he'd look at it and it would say Belushi
00:30:15
they still had them God and he'd wear them and then he'd wear his pants over
00:30:19
those because he wanted to have anything and at one point I said Chris you're as
00:30:25
good as Belushi I mean I hate to sound like Blasphemous but I go we we all love Belushi and I go Chris you're at the
00:30:32
point where we go down the street it it's you're so good that I would put you
00:30:36
in the same here 's the thing that I have to say about all of that because when I hear people
00:30:46
say your cast was the best cast I say no the cast that was on when you were an adolescent is the best because they've
00:30:55
always had great casts always always had great casts and great writers and you know I mean guys your years had
00:31:05
you guys and the people around you there have always been great casts and people
00:31:11
that don't even know ours they said we're bad and then later they say we're
00:31:15
good it's so funny that when we're there they're like you missed the good people
00:31:18
they were just here you guys suck and then later Saturday Night Live dead to the left that that never ended long
00:31:27
goes Saturday night dead it's gonna get every year it'll be a headline that's a good impression I cannot Dana
00:31:34
do it he's the guy the problem uh with uh the critics they're they're like
00:31:39
really into their own thing it's that thing of like you know you have to be um really light on your feet it'd be
00:31:45
nice if this sketch was like uh you know funny would be a good thing we love Lawrence sarcasm did he overcome saying
00:31:53
things like absolutely or no no no no no no no no no no no no no no we definitely have no no no no don't
00:32:00
misunderstand me mostly would be exactly if you were telling him something exactly well you know he was always the
00:32:07
same but uh now that we we have data now we have almost 50 years of this show it's hard to imagine another human
00:32:15
individual navigating it like Lauren he was so good with the network and all that part of it
00:32:22
he was very good with the hosts and he also is I think because he's a a very
00:32:27
very smart guy he could get all those ivy league guys to come in and respect him you know the Harvard guys because I
00:32:35
went to San Francisco State but everyone you know they would all giggle when I would mispronounce a word and read
00:32:39
through and I go you [ __ ] I'll get you on the step that was intimidating I
00:32:43
don't know if that you guys you guys had great writers Lorraine but it got it got
00:32:46
very harvardy when I was there from Scottsdale Community College and I could just tell it was very clear I was in
00:32:52
over my head and it takes a while to to to figure out like I don't know if you wrote but yeah I think you did but
00:32:59
how to write a sketch or how to fit in with these guys and just get to the level
00:33:03
I just want to go and read through and say I don't want everyone to go what the
00:33:07
[ __ ] who wrote this I just wanted to be like oh we're not doing it but it's sort
00:33:11
of mixed into the bunch you know because sometimes I I would write something and I didn't know how to write and I
00:33:17
just got that yellow pad and they would be like that's eight pages too long I'm like well no one is talking
00:33:23
to me oh my God no one tells you anything was that the same when you were there in the 70s we have to you have to
00:33:29
learn it yourself or ask other cast members absolutely yeah nobody tells you anything and
00:33:35
um I didn't quite get that it would be good if I were to align myself with a
00:33:40
writer who could really get me but yeah fortunately it worked out that way anyway and O'Donoghue and Schiller and
00:33:47
and Rosie Schuster they really wrote beautifully for me and you know I brought us some of the material that I
00:33:54
had done to the Groundlings I brought there but that was basically how it worked because I did not know how I the
00:34:01
things I did in the Groundlings were what we now call in ones or down lefts which were just character monologues
00:34:07
yeah I am a shitty improviser shitty you know uh so you know I don't know improvise on Saturday Night Live but you
00:34:17
don't improvise yeah people think but but backstage you do you know just for a
00:34:22
second Rosie Schuster came back Lauren's ex-wife one of them and she was assigned
00:34:28
to me I just done this character in my stand-up I didn't do it all day long I
00:34:32
never wore a dress was this church lady person oh my God we we sat for a couple weeks
00:34:37
you know making the talk show out of it and she was the one who said ah Church chat you know and she was very very good
00:34:45
oh yeah yeah writer yeah really beautiful yeah so that Lauren loves that when the writers in the cast get
00:34:52
together and I actually talked to a young cast member recently wanted to talk to me I won't say you know who it
00:34:59
was who's currently on the show and struggling a little bit with the process
00:35:03
I said well five whatever your rhythm of your character is you know collect your your
00:35:07
hooks or or what what makes it funny and crunchy to you seek out a writer that has influence and and maybe would want
00:35:16
so at the ground floor but while the sketch is being written your rhythms are being integrated don't wait where
00:35:21
they've written jokes and you're trying to put your character into it exactly
00:35:25
make sure you do it together so it sounds like you had that with Michael Donahue and Rosie and all the rest yeah
00:35:31
that's one Lauren loves that thing too it's it's like it's like the Congress
00:35:35
and the Senate are getting along or something once he doesn't want one side to dominate too much yeah well Conan
00:35:41
O'Brien talks about not knowing how to write a sketch and how he really started
00:35:45
out by just like telling somebody's stories and people say yeah you should write that as a
00:35:51
sketch yeah but you know the idea that any any writer would come there not knowing how to write a sketch well I
00:35:58
audition should be on the show and then they say we're me and Rob Schneider and
00:36:02
they go you're hired but you're they liked your stand-up but they like the
00:36:06
writing of it so which is not which is good and bad news because they go he wants to be a writer performer and then
00:36:11
they go oh maybe Chevy was I don't know who was but he was just hired as a writer Chevy was just a real writer yes
00:36:19
Simon Garrett and Chevy were hired as writers oh I did not know that that's cool how
00:36:27
long till Billy came home was it three years no uh actually it was uh right away yeah because Chevy did like one and
00:36:35
a half season oh yeah yeah whatever he was on the cover of time or whatever he was he just blew up from the show yeah
00:36:42
and then he always regretted leaving you know when he would come back and host he
00:36:46
talked about wishing he'd stayed longer sure for sure I mean it's hard once you
00:36:50
leave it you can never go back you know once you what once you leave SNL you're
00:36:55
never gonna do I thought you said once you Diva you never come back oh funny nuts
00:37:03
that's better than what I just said so I did say that Lorraine what's your Diva
00:37:08
but once you leave you can't go back to that experientially and it it haunts
00:37:13
your whole career life in some ways because it's New York it's it's the
00:37:17
grease pain it's there's a horse in the show and someone's juggling and it's all
00:37:20
chaotic and weird and there's just nothing quite like that intensity of how hard it is and you go I could do
00:37:29
that and then you leave I'm sure it's Chevy after years like and he sees the
00:37:33
show stays huge and even huge and you're like [ __ ] that was fun I was in that I
00:37:37
was in the mix yeah that's the thing is sketch comedy is so fun yeah you know I
00:37:44
mean when I when I was back for the 40th just doing sketches all right so goddamn
00:37:50
fun oh yeah it's just and the people you get to work with are always super sharp
00:37:54
funny yes you get to look around and go goddammit all these people are great and
00:37:59
then you then they go on to do great things and you go [ __ ] everyone was good I was not wrong it feels like it's more
00:38:05
pressure now but you guys to do when did you for yourself Lorraine so you're on
00:38:09
the show and the show's not the show yet but you're becoming rock stars when did
00:38:14
you know I think the audience starts to discover and they discovered Chevy first
00:38:18
probably because he was on update and had an in one at home base it was like very potent Chevy but when do you feel
00:38:24
like when did you personally get comfortable you feel like were you comfortable right away I took me I feel
00:38:30
like 60 shows 60 to get I I'd say I was better after the third season fourth
00:38:37
season I mean to be really having fun to go back full circle to like just enjoying it because everything is
00:38:43
picking in wigs and going and then the cards and changing to get relaxed how did you feel you had a breakthrough with
00:38:50
a certain character I mean was it the Coneheads or any sketch you remember where I've got this we're we're winning
00:38:55
we're a winning team we're rock stars or maybe it was immediate for you guys no I
00:39:00
was very young and I was very inexperienced you're like 21 or something no I was 23 but I was a very
00:39:06
young 20 years I was a young 23. that's what I have to say about that but um I was very
00:39:13
inexperienced and I did not have a lot of confidence and so um I can't say that
00:39:20
I ever got to a place where I felt comfortable um when I was when I I was doing something either that I wrote or that I
00:39:29
really had an offended 34 and felt like I could score with those were great times I mean Marilyn Miller wrote this
00:39:35
Barbra Streisand song for me and I was just thinking about it the other day because someone was talking about uh I
00:39:42
think it was the documentary on Mr Kelly's and that Barbra Streisand does the intro on that and I was thinking you
00:39:49
know um it was a complicated song I was the only one who could sing a little bit
00:39:55
better than everybody else of the girls and I just remember afterwards uh that kind of explosive Applause when it was
00:40:04
over and as I'm bowing and my legs are shaking you know it was such a great moment and experience to have but I
00:40:14
didn't have a lot of those you know yeah did you like singing did you sit with
00:40:19
someone we had Cheryl oh sure Mark Shaman we had Cheryl and Mark Shaman and Mark Shaman worked on
00:40:26
the show he did while I was there for a couple years then he went off and did movies but he was there with Cheryl I
00:40:33
didn't know that this is just for people listening we you know you if there's a
00:40:38
musical number it's so much fun to sit down let's just say Cheryl was so
00:40:42
wonderful and she could just play or anything and you had a song you wanted to do I think she said she did Black
00:40:49
Magic Woman is that Santana I don't know who did that she played the chords backwards for the church chat theme oh
00:40:58
my God how brilliant but she would help you with notes and no you were going to harmonize we're playing Cowboys and
00:41:04
we're harmonizing Woody Harrelson and she would help you and I'll speak to the
00:41:08
you I want to hear your experiences I had one freaky thing of I was in a booth with Willie Nelson he had his old guitar
00:41:15
and then he was learning uh a song Maybe I didn't you know learn it in real time
00:41:22
oh wow you have those kinds of moments you in terms of the movies the the hosts that came along in those five years who
00:41:30
what does anyone stick out or oh the host the host because you're then you're meeting like you had the monster
00:41:37
stars come through it's unreal Richard Pryor I had met Richard Pryor when I was
00:41:43
14 because he was friends with my sister oh and he was playing the Troubadour guys the Troubadour he was playing the
00:41:50
Troubadour yeah yeah so I met him when I was 14 so when he came to host the show I was like
00:41:57
ah I'm Tracy Newman's little sister do you remember me yeah and he was so great
00:42:04
to me he was just he was sweet always like there are three people who are my main influences Eve Arden Madeleine Khan
00:42:12
and Richard Pryor those are like the Holy Trinity for me Madeline Collins and other monsters did she come host
00:42:19
twice oh how great so yeah so they that how so that that's the exact example of
00:42:25
what happens during Saturday Night Live so you have this Mentor who doesn't know
00:42:29
and then you're now you're in a sketch with them I know it's it's all surreal
00:42:33
right you know what about Lorraine did I read that um you were stopped I mean this is where
00:42:39
your career just hits a Zenith when you got stopped by John and Yoko is that true yeah I was uh I was coming from a
00:42:47
photo session with Francisco scavolo Jesus for the urethra with jewelrybug and I'm
00:42:58
walking through the lobby of 30 Rock and through my peripheral vision I see these
00:43:02
two forms and they come into Focus John and Yoko and as they pass in Front of Me John
00:43:09
goes hi Lorraine you know not a high high Lorraine you know wow and I was like Lou Costello in those Series
00:43:23
yeah yeah that's exactly what I was like you know there were so many intersections that happened to have my
00:43:33
casts with different people and Paul McCartney and so forth but yeah I was always Bittersweet I would love love to
00:43:38
have met John oh my God yeah Christopher Lee was the person that I was very excited to meet I had lobbied for him to
00:43:47
be a host for three years but it wasn't until he was in a James Bond movie that
00:43:52
he put him in and God was he a great host of course he immediately said I do not
00:43:58
want to do Dracula wow yeah yeah I'm going to play Coco the clown I don't want to do directly it's not
00:44:10
something right and I was just saying that because when Stephen hosted I think I got a bad rap of being quoted and
00:44:16
sometimes these stories that that's our worst host but the truth is I did like
00:44:22
Steven Seagal and I liked his movies and I was just trying I was I was saying he
00:44:27
was sort of known to others as a bad host he wouldn't roll with a flow and I
00:44:31
think both of you know that the best thing to do with your host is to just put your hands up and go what do you
00:44:35
want me to do and if you're a Christopher Lee we'll make a track that we won't make you look like an [ __ ]
00:44:40
this will be a funny version people like it and he wouldn't do any karate a monologue and we wanted to do kung fu
00:44:47
fighting and or something stupid and he and he just was latching on to wanting to be cool and and I got what he was
00:44:54
saying he's like that's I have an image and it was just too hard to to trust us
00:44:59
and talk him out of that that's all he wasn't a bad guy to me well I I didn't
00:45:03
mean to imply that he was difficult he was absolutely great sure but a lot of people don't want to do that yeah that's
00:45:10
what I'm saying a lot a lot of people just say they get on there or the music we had
00:45:16
that a lot the music doesn't want to do their hit song if you want to go you get
00:45:19
two songs you could do whatever you want on the second one but the first one can
00:45:24
you please do your hit you know it's kind of want to go when a when a host comes in like you know there's an
00:45:30
athlete or we had a we had George Steinbrenner a billionaire owns the New York Yankees so George stembrier so he's
00:45:37
got kind of you know he's a billionaire he's George and and uh Al Franken
00:45:41
pitched him something to the effect in the sketch he would be on all fours in a diaper with a dog collar it's funny
00:45:52
just you're like apple he's not gonna do that well I think it's really funny remember
00:45:58
Conan was saying at dinner the other night we saw Conan he was saying he he was he and Bob Odenkirk had to go pitch
00:46:05
to George scheinbrenner and he and he [ __ ] hated it and said I'm not doing
00:46:08
that [ __ ] get out of here and they leave and Lauren goes give it another try what
00:46:13
go back again oh my God I did a sketch once it was during Matthew um Broderick married to uh Sarah Jessica
00:46:22
Parker Matthew Broderick so we were all bare chested in diapers in the sketch and so and this so the sketch bombs I
00:46:33
mean it really bombs I mean it's dead quiet and then you have to walk off there's no it's too busy no one puts a
00:46:39
rope you're walking through eight eights through the audience with a big diaper
00:46:43
on it and sketched it just [ __ ] itself and then I looked at an audience member
00:46:49
did a little like hey how you doing a little wave and they looked away [Music] your next lines coming like we should
00:47:11
end it right now it's going nowhere kills a dress and then on air you're
00:47:18
like what happened I know that's the worst well that's the Alchemy of the
00:47:23
show you know [ __ ] well it's sometimes the dress show is so hot and you're like
00:47:29
uh I don't like this yeah because then the air show is not so hot and a lot of
00:47:33
invited guests and then all of a sudden the same and it's a half the laugh and
00:47:38
then you've gotten spoiled with the dress show but sometimes the air audience was the best so you never knew
00:47:43
but it was a high wire Act [Music] Lorraine I don't keep you forever but do you ever do you ever get mad and say
00:47:52
Maps say what what are you saying Coneheads Maps um I've been saying it wrong I've been
00:48:05
saying it wrong every time I stub my toe that's all right I was in Coneheads I
00:48:10
was in the Coneheads really yeah I played that's great that's right I played you were in the call I wasn't in
00:48:16
that one but I I just it was almost jury duty it was everybody it was Ellen Degeneres Phil Sinbad Schneider sounds
00:48:26
too big I was too big at the time and I had a beach house and I didn't really
00:48:31
um I was turning down a lot of things I'm just processing this idea of when it
00:48:37
came out the idea that the character's name was what the character was so the
00:48:42
coneds had Coneheads so I always loved that and that's why I said the church
00:48:48
lady is the church lady you know or people were talking to people he plays like a church lady
00:48:54
right it well didn't did that I mean did Carol Burnett and uh Flip Wilson or
00:48:59
whatever did they do that because that was the first time I saw it it's a certain knowing dry silliness that the
00:49:06
character's name is what the character is that pre-date SNL but I love that about it no I don't know I don't know
00:49:14
Dana I don't know what happened with Flip Wilson exactly I love all those variety shows
00:49:23
Lorraine do you laugh when you when you're going to do Coneheads in rehearsal does it kill at the table or
00:49:29
it where is there any weirdness along the week going what if this just does not work
00:49:34
I adored Danny's writing I absolutely adored it and he could do no wrong as far as I was concerned even if it was
00:49:44
like something really subtle and tasty that I knew the audience would not get that was fine that is fun too because
00:49:52
you know some of those sketches you're like I don't care how it does I love it
00:49:55
we need to do it and Lauren's good at keeping stuff like that on he's like
00:50:00
yeah I don't care if it doesn't work this is what we this represents us that's a good Jack Handy used to write a
00:50:06
lot of really weird ones and we all love to read through and he goes that's part
00:50:09
of the magic of the show is that that sensibility is allowed even if it doesn't kill and yeah Dan Aykroyd would
00:50:16
write these long he would talk really super fast and have all this language coming out God damn you know and you'd
00:50:23
have to just figure out later what he was saying but the coneds was silly and it was I mean
00:50:28
how many times did you think you did that did it seemed like it was on a lot gosh I I do not know I just know that
00:50:34
the one time that we did an extended version where we filmed us going back to remulac
00:50:40
yeah we uh we had never been in the cones longer than the length of a sketch but this was like a whole day and the
00:50:49
spirit gum [ __ ] started to burn ah you know this is where it was anchored here
00:50:56
yeah oh my God and so you know Jane and Danny were in the front seat and they just started smoking weed
00:51:05
and I was in the back seat and we are on a location or something yes we were shooting on locations oh I'd be
00:51:12
terrified I'll improvised too because you know we didn't get permits we went
00:51:16
to a gas station the the gasoline but you know it was like gorilla because she had got no
00:51:26
permits or anything like that and you're in your outfit you're a giant head and
00:51:29
everything walking around I got a question when you do Coneheads uh did you have to do it either cold open or
00:51:35
after update because there's so much it was always at the top of the show when I
00:51:39
did Gap girls it was so much work they could only put it first or after update because that's the
00:51:45
biggest chunk you have update and music and that's like 12 minutes or something
00:51:48
and did you get stoned that day then no idea I've never I never was able to perform hi I mean I
00:51:59
tried it with a couple beers once I worked giant Stone once didn't work I don't
00:52:04
know heroin is good for doing sketchbooks is what makes James Woods it's the math
00:52:12
is what informs his choices Marcy please more popcorn anyway um you know that thing that you said
00:52:18
about Lauren is very astute because that is what causes an audience to come to you yeah you know it's like you you
00:52:25
don't write for them you let them come you write for us yeah and you let them
00:52:31
come to you and some things like like cheeseburger cheeseburger one of those like they that might not work the first
00:52:37
time there's a lot of sketches that might not work and then by the time it comes on you don't realize they really
00:52:40
did like it they had to watch it and think about it and then their friends talk about it and you go that is good it
00:52:46
gets it's kind of hooky or even if it's not a catchphrase just a smart bit and
00:52:50
then you go oh [ __ ] that's bigger but also that was active and high energy and
00:52:54
I've said this before but for me personally when I was doing Johnny Carson on the show and sort of a new way
00:52:59
great impression by the way thank you my kind of my favorite thing because I did
00:53:06
I thought I enjoyed it so much and I had Phil of course there um that the draftser yeah
00:53:18
you're watching a television and that's how you're seeing the pictures we are
00:53:23
not actively in your living room you know the eye how Johnny would include everyone in the country in on stuff and
00:53:29
I didn't care and I was in my sixth season or something but I wasn't thinking whether it was going to get a
00:53:35
laugh because I intrinsically knew it was so [ __ ] it was almost too funny some things that I'll watch sometimes
00:53:41
are so funny that I know I'm gonna I can't even laugh as hard as I wanna
00:53:45
laugh I'm gonna laugh later because you want to hear it I want to hear it and it
00:53:49
hits you so hard but the rock and roll sketches are easier it was or you look at an old sketch like even from
00:53:55
Lorraine's seasons and you go I didn't even really get that back then like how funny it was like I was too
00:54:02
young and now you look back you go holy [ __ ] that's so well done or smarter
00:54:06
because I was just like looking for the easy jokes I'm younger you know and then
00:54:10
it then you get older and you start to like different stuff but you go back and go oh [ __ ] that was so good yeah that's
00:54:16
an interesting point I've experienced that too yeah did you go on update a lot
00:54:21
and do characters um I I did it a couple of times uh when um when Sid Vicious murdered his girlfriend
00:54:33
there's a hilarious topic go ahead I went down there's his mother I went home
00:54:38
that's his mother saying that he was a good boy you know and uh I think Brian
00:54:44
was Sid Vicious you know and he just had the wig on it and he just looked completely mad you know and I was just
00:54:52
going on I did my best you know I did my best I don't know I don't know we've had a
00:54:59
great time here oh my God then of course I did the the the reporter you know Lorraine Newman the
00:55:07
report which was kind of in that sort of reporter dialect in a sense the language
00:55:12
of breaking news right now this is the whole that kind of thing yeah chubby I'm
00:55:17
standing here you know I I always had heard you know I I heard that song and you know you know what I'm talking about
00:55:26
Dana the song that they do do that that is a newscaster oh God you know it's it is a song I did it in
00:55:44
stand up and I don't know if I got it from Robert Klein but it was a newsman
00:55:47
ordering dinner with his wife if I can remember it was like a surprise kind of my wife tonight he's at a restaurant two
00:55:53
Labs of steak medium rare and a couple of black coffee instead of the traditional cream and sugar I'll have my
00:55:59
coffee you did I must have done on a talk show or something I could have done it on a talk show or or stand up that's
00:56:06
a great bit uh I love I love I'm like you I love all voices I love all dialects and I so enjoy when I see uh
00:56:15
people do them on Saturday Night Live uh the new Young cast member does a trump that is so brilliant oh my God so and I
00:56:23
just that's like so funny and so brilliant I I you know I I have to like watch it later almost because he's doing
00:56:30
so many hooks excuse me and the people who can a lot of people they're saying
00:56:33
many and he's doing all this great too his Biden is just huge stuff we can do this we can do it
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now here's the deal my father lost his job not kidding around here we can in
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fact do better we can we're surprised I'm I'm out of my mind let me smell your hair Biden is an
00:56:53
interesting one you know the evolution of doing a president is that the country still has to get used to Biden the kind
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of defensive guy is come out a little bit angry and then befuddled all the different flavors he has but we're still
00:57:08
discovering him the whisper thing and then he goes kind of loud yeah and sort of my dad would do that when he was 90.
00:57:14
it was kind of a patronizing whisper because I know what I'm doing oh man that's right we can do this
00:57:22
and number one the one part number two with the guy said number three come on folks remember he's always admonishing
00:57:29
us for not understanding there's like a really really interesting new cast members
00:57:36
yeah uh Chloe fine yeah she's a growling she's a friend of my daughter Hannah's
00:57:41
I'm telling me about her for years so I watched your daughter today she's she's
00:57:46
really really funny and talented I just saw her on Colbert because I knew I was going to be talking to you and she
00:57:53
reminds me of you there's a drill dry yeah I mean there's uh just uh uh why
00:57:58
would you say this her stuff is very smart you know thank you yes we're we're
00:58:03
just you know beside ourselves um uh I I she she belongs there I mean she's going to she is having a career
00:58:10
she's on Hacks now and she's just really good and so I can't imagine what that
00:58:16
must feel like to have a dog have someone have success because you oh you look at her mom and
00:58:22
now you're the daughter and following a big act to follow and she's doing great
00:58:27
well her Talent is completely different than mine and my older child's Talent is
00:58:32
also there also they started doing stand-up when they were 15. and they're all they're on loss of spookies Julio's
00:58:39
show um and uh they both their talent is completely different than mine and that
00:58:46
is exciting to watch but you know my only contribution really was when this is so inappropriate but when I was
00:58:54
driving when I was driving them to school I mean this is like grade school I would play the scalar brothers and
00:59:01
Maria Bamford and Pat Oswald you know yeah I mean needed to be entertained damn it you
00:59:10
know I was not going to listen to radio [ __ ] Disney another second you know so you gave him
00:59:16
some good stand-ups wow yeah but your daughter when she came on Colbert the first time this is Hannah she did kind
00:59:23
of like a little story about her mom and dad and sperm donors and stuff and it was very very sketched that's why it
00:59:31
wasn't traditional stand up that's why it reminded me of yes it's very
00:59:36
different and I saw her set at Dynasty typewriter this last Sunday and it was pretty much new material and
00:59:44
40 minutes set and it was so good and so interesting and it's like how the hell
00:59:49
did you come up with that stuff you know interesting wow well that's a a great way to close the podcast because
00:59:55
that's good that's like this gigantic Perfect full circle yeah talking about
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that and you know the apple does not fall very far from the tree you'll find
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uh but anyway that's very sweet Lorraine I'm so happy I think I met one of your
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daughters or both of them at that Al Franken thing we did it was probably Hannah probably Hannah yeah she's you
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know whatever just a sweet little girl but now she's oh that's cool um well I've really enjoyed this a lot
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so fun you guys I really did and uh thank you for having me too and good luck with it I know it's it's a really
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