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so Dana we're excited to have our first repeat guest on flying the Wall Dennis Miller who we both love grew up with and
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uh you were you knew him before I did and you guys are great friends and we're all we go back to the very beginning I
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remember playing a comedy club with Dennis Miller in 1981 the comedy magic club I first got to know him he goes he
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says I got no gigs KY got no gigs no gigs by the way he's probably the second most person you do on the show who's number is it Trump or Biden or what I would say Lauren because you know but
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Dennis is a close second and uh it's fun to try to process the way his mind thinks when you think of a thing it'd be like carvan spendley doing the classic intro a little long on the keep cop you
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know what I mean so but his mind well anyway you'll enjoy this because a couple years have gone by so there's
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just a lot of stuff to talk about and his mind is uh razor are sharp and really fun to listen to Sharp we cover a
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lot of bases and we mostly just crack up yeah we mostly just so we're just laugh uh you'll just watch me and Dana
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basically just listen to Dennis crack up and I will say the one and only I mean his he has a singular voice in standup
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which is amazing the one and only Dennis [Music] Miller hey Davey what's said Enter the Dragon skateboard
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what are you [ __ ] 60 you're 60 years old now Dennis I'm a skater at hard let me get a hat on I look like a mad no way
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we're not even we're not even showing this part boss but good no you look good though what do you mean my hair looks
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all [ __ ] up it's up up to you but yeah this is just audio so uh spudley uh I'll
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start you off by putting you on comfortable home ground as the great Jim Kelly said ghetto are the same all over
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the world and then he flipped an ollie okay let's Jim Kelly the quarterback I'm sorry who is that no there there was a guy in Enter the Dragon SP and at the
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beginning he's riding a junk and he looks around him he goes ghettos are the same all over the world that's and then
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an Olly is a skateboard trick Dana wake up I know I am waking up are you kidding
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all right boys let's rock this who played the bad guy who play what actor played the bad guy and entered the dragon I don't know um Kareem Abdul
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javar no that was it no it was John somebody he had a kind of a comb over a good actor anyway it was uh I remember Joseph Weissman played Dr No who was the
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the uh and he was in detective story with KK Douglas and I think they patterned Hong after him anyway let's
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let's go on with no this is what we're doing this is great this this is the beef of yeah the this as A+ podcasting
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so far I auditioned for Dr yes and my whole part got cut up Spade your hair looks
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good man what are you doing my hair looks good today why are we on [ __ ] camera Jesus I know he's got volume he's got lift he's got he's
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got Jesus I'm sitting over I look like uh okay here it goes at my everybody else looks good I was the first one in on plugged and they're not working for
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me we're gonna we're gonna we'll do a whole you know we just had Joel MC on yeah and uh his hair looks great and he fully admits he's got more plugs than last two minutes of Carson yeah Jesus
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it's your joke that's a dentist joke a class how many times I do dentist jokes are we on the air by the way sorry yeah yeah okay yeah so I was on The Tonight Show one
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night after I got my plugs um I was talking to Jay and we had a phow moment as it were because they had nothing to plug so um ironically I
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said hey Jay I just got hair plugs he no he didn't the hair looks great and I said no Jay I'm telling I got air plugs
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and I'm Healed up now and I want to show them off so I went up to the camera the number one camera and you know put my
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head down I said I've got around 5200 plugs here and uh came back and Jay said you're not kidding right I said no no and the next day I got calls from some of the most famous craniums in the world
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asking me where you know I won't betray their trust even though some of them have passed on now but saying where did
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you get your plugs and I I uh they said do they have a back door I said yeah but
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why use a back door you just go get hair plugs if you need hair plugs and the guy my doctor eventually called me when I
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needed some more and he said you're comped don't pull coin in my town I've got so many uh you know recommendation
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heads off you you reorientated the skulls of several hundred men in Southern California and that is a if you you have your legacy as one of the all-time great comedians but this Legacy
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we've heard about today helping people with their appearance their self-esteem I'm calling myself happy and I'm glad this was this is well like any anything
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like plas surgery or something you notice the bad ones but there's so many people that have different things
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they've done that you just would never know and they just go that guy looks pretty good yeah Ellen Burston always
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looked great I consider myself now in in retirement I consider myself a uh not a
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life coach but rather a life assistant coach where I I I don't have anything I don't speak to the Press on a daily basis I have nothing to do with the overall uh organization but I I consider
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myself the Str coach for I hired a life assistant coach a little cheaper I just stole your joke switched it and it's in my act now remember we used to call that bit
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surfing where somebody jumped on a bit I had that song on my show where you go two tags on every
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bit oh they're waxing up a premise and taking on down to the beach bit surfing yeah yeah yeah that happens if comedians are together I think the
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uh the rule is the unwritten rule like if you start a bit just you're talking and people kind of tag it just in
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conversation I think if you tag someone if I tag someone they're talking and they say oh I might use that I say go
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ahead it's you started the premise I'll throw you whatever I can shovel on this fire and take it right yeah Jimmy Valle
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was like the red a d he would air drop in on any main premise and start tagging it like like Floyd Mayweather work the speed back did re a dare help
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cap the oil rigs that were on fire in like Iran or something well he would do that thing that Duke Wayne did in the uh Hell Fire hell Fighters movie where if
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you knock the feed of the air out for just a millisecond the whole thing stops so you have to get up close Dynamite it stand behind something and have the
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dynamite suck the air out for a second and then uh that puts the fire out in an oddly ironic way and you have to remember the dynamite was invented by Alfred Nobel the Nobel Peace Prize
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because his original invention had croak so many people that he karmically worried whether he would ever get into
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heaven so he came he made him a monum of a donation in perpetuity to have a Peace
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Prize the only reason he did it is because he invented dynamite wow that I I I'm speechless I did not know that well car you remember when we were
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on the road we used to do San Jose and you'd go to the Winchester Mystery House certainly right it was this house that
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had it was like an eer print that had stairwells and Shoots and Ladders and the reason the woman she was of the
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Winchester uh she married a Winchester so many people had been killed with a guns she was afraid that the spirits
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were going to come back and get her so she buil a house that was one big baffle chamber so the ghosts would into dead
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ends because you know that's how you figure out how to stay alive after you're dead is that you can't figure a [ __ ] hallway out so anyway but do you
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remember the catchphrase of the local TV which was in the San Francisco Bay Area about the Winchester Mystery House it
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was it was always Winchester M house 10 miles south of San Jose open and then she would say keep
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building keep building and that would crush did you have local Pittsburgh bits that would only work in Pittsburgh well to some degree but I remember most from
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New York because that cat on on the island was always pushing Carbell was always pushing Cookie Puss and you know
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you had crazy Edie selling the stereo equipment so that's when I was first indoctrinated into local catchphrases
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and I remember SNL knocked off the most famous one which was uh thing of about played the beetle music on Broadway and it was called Beetle Mania and uh and
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then Jim Downey I think who one when doesn't it Trace back all roads lead to Downey comedically he wrote that great
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bit called Beetle Mania Mania gets not the Beatles but the next best thing and then he changed to it's not Beetle Mania but it's the next best thing and it looked like a copy of a
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copy you know at a Kinkos or something where the guys were even a little more washed out and Loosely connected to the
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actual be Beetle Mania guys so very funny what's your so let let me try you Spade
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first you're playing Chicago what's your local reference up front for a laugh my local reference up front is about
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Arizona and then I realized quickly it doesn't travel like that was the big wakeup call I'd never done s when I did
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SNL I'd only been to New York once in my life so all all my jokes weren't working
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and I didn't really have any clubs to go in once you're at SNL you're locked in that dungeon so I didn't do much standup
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except for maybe on the college gigs and the weekends now and then but man I would do literally I would say streets
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in Arizona I would say hey I was my cam back you know over with the hookers on Van
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beer sure fire but that's in Arizona and then I get out there and and I go I'm not funny I just know my area it's just
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different you know I had a go-to adaptation that's Politically Incorrect but I take the name of the city
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extrapolate it to sound like an Indian name you know Fresno from the old Indian name fres kna which means drop your
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shorts we don't have much time K crushed beyond beyond the Beyond I couldn't follow myself love I had to say thank
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you and good night you couldn't follow your own joke Jimmy Stewart blowing himself next and then I just leave the
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stage I could not follow myself I remember one night Randy uh Randy Quaid and I were coming out of we were coming out of the
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Comedy Store and we went past that train car up there that sells Burgers you remember that joint you'd come out what was it called spudley Carney I think yeah cars yeah and uh we're walking past
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Carney and when you were talking about Jimmy Stewart the original guy who did that uh his name was Ron Jeremy and uh
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he was porn star who Auto fated himself that's what he was known for he comes up and he's he's a big fan he's talking to
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Randy about sorry he's talking to Randy about the Last Detail and you know Randy was so great and that and then he's you
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know telling me some of my jokes and you know we're both like looking at well thank you sir that's nice and uh as soon
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as he takes two steps away from us uh Randy and I simultaneously look at each other and go that's the guy who blows
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himself he wasn't even out of ear shock we couldn't wait to tell each other oh man I saw him at the rainbow all the time literally everyone from 1990 to 98
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that's doing well is at the rainbow obviously me included I was like why was I there oh
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um but I saw like you know Brett Michaels and those guys they just and they you know there's something about
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old people not oldie but people that dress the way they were when they're their most famous so like they'll have
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the same hat or the same look or the same hair the same exact outfit so you go oh that's that guy you know what I
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mean was the rainbow the joint um like below there was a private club called On The Rocks wasn't that no that's a Roxy I'm sorry I got it very close though that's all that same little
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run there where they're gonna mow it down soon and make a Club Monaco well they better not do the
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whiskey because that's where the Lizard King made his name so you've got to leave the whiskey up it should be
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whiskey Lizard King sorry who's the Lizard King wait a sec what what are you doing you te Jim Morrison yeah sure oh
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Jim Morrison is the lizard oh because of the the leather outfit I you know I didn't I never got Jim's curriculum V to see exactly why he named himself that
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but yeah I think uh I think there was some story about him out on a highway and he ran into an arao crossed over and head oned into a telephone pole or
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something and died and he saw the guy's Spirit came into him and he saw lizard on the road something like that just
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another day was the plot that was the plot of ways World 2 I believe I thought he had a bigk you
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jennis no we had a guy playing Jim Morrison in the desert but uh okay fun fact Bill T craigy was disportionately wrinkled for his age and that's where the phrase craigy came from because
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craigy is a great how's he aging he's looking a bit craigy Cy craigy you mean Craig's craigy is not a word cra he's saying with an E it's with an a right I just made that up to get oh okay Jesus
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well come on have them have them Loosely based in reality for Godin tourettes you know Mr craigy I'm thinking what CRA
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is craigy is in fact craigy that's the joke isn't it ironic I'm glad we're just on audio today because my hair I'm looking at it now you guys both Carby
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yours looks like a beautiful like showering uh you know like one of those geysers goes off and runs down the side
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of your head and I look over products and he looks like David Jansen the the the uh Lon if you blew it straight up spudley's hair beautiful I know looks
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great spudley's hair today I did they combed it yesterday but uh I have to start something Friday I still don't know if I'm wearing a wig or not what do you mean start something Friday you're doing a film oh I don't like to talk
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about it what's going on bus boys with theovon it'll be in a theater near you bus boys with the St introduced me to that cat and I find him so funny I I
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mean really we had a [ __ ] blast he is a smart guy man remember we sat down in uh we we watched the UFC one night and you were with him and I thought uh I
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thought it was like a Reincarnation of Phil's cavem lawyer thing you know he looked a little rough but then the more
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I listened to him during the night I said Jesus this cat is hysterical man yeah if you get into that frequency he says the funniest [ __ ] and I was in between so it was the fight was right in
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front of us so we just and obviously if you get D Dennis right next to you just Whispering jokes about every round and
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we were just all talk telling jokes to each other and uh it it was the funnest night in the world yeah I sit next to
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Dennis a lot there I have been in a while I are you going to go well we'll talk after you I'd like to go in and see something that's quality talk well Dan is the Dane is the best
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host isn't he he's a good he's a good guy and he always treats you like a king and uh you know you'll be sitting down front and uh you'll think God out of all the people in the world and I see mil
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Miles Teller there a lot too he's a good guy and one night I saw Mel Gibson and Lady Mary from down AB you remember that night oh I didn't see I saw Mel I've seen him there yeah well she was just
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she was doing a film with him so they were just Dana White I am Dana White's Godfather he was named after me I've never revealed that before but yeah Dana Ky love that guy
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Cy great by the way to pull it all craigy is in fact Craig recessive Steve recessive chin has a weak chin these are just these all in Farmers all manac you
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know it's funny is when uh it's like it's like whenever I'm with you guys I know it's going to be such stream of
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Consciousness that it reminds me of those times you had to do pre- inters when you were starting out and like the
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Letterman pre- interiew was more in depth than you trying to became a citizen of the country for God's sakes
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you sit there with somebody and go over jokes phonetically and you know all of a
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sudden you're in an office with some people we all remember the people I don't want denigrate them but some of the people that you're pitching jokes to
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you're thinking my God if if I was writing to their level I wouldn't be on the Letterman show you know you'd have to say a joke and they'd look at you not
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that one what you you do a 45 minute pre- interview this is what people at home don't know
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before you do a seven minute spot on you know let him or something so you're like pitching and the guy's like what's your
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Obama thing and do the whole thing and sweating at the end he's like ah what else maybe we'll push that to the end
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that's the worst there's time by the way did you have a Tonight Show first Tonight Show doing standup I don't even
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know that story or did you I don't think I SK that you came out as a guest after I remember there was a cat who screamed
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people for The Tonight Show and he had like a six and a half foot long Hobie Cat that he would go out to pasaden on the weekend and Pitch himself as a yachtsman you know and then you you
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eventually see a picture of the boat that it's you know your grandson's in the bath sub with it it's so small and
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that guy was omnipotent about who got I'm recovering from hobiecat I'm still recovering from just the do you remember that guy D mcau oh yeah mcau right right
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it was so funny You' pitch jokes to him and you think oh my god you're kidding me but I never ended up doing standup
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I'm kind of well I don't know I I almost seemed like I was a different person back then when I think back on it as I
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got older I started to hedge more bets because I feel like when you're starting out you just get in the room and you
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figure I've got to get into the center of this room so I'll take some risks and then later as you go along you're in the
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center of the room to some degree I'm not saying you know Tom Cruz is the center of the room but you're at least
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in the room and you think I'm going to hedge a few bets here because I don't want to end up getting kicked out but at the beginning you're Fearless I look
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back and I think I can't believe I had those coomes but I did panel the first time and Johnny was Johnny was like Henry Higgins you know showing you at Ascot or something he was so good at it
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it was an easy gig why can't a regular piece be more like a comedian I'm trying to do the My
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Fair Lady thing there but why can't Dennis be more but uh yeah this is the first time I saw the power of our former manager Brad gray Jim mcau me going
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there and my time was cut down or something so Brad just sitting in his chair in the green room and had that
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raspy kind of voice and he just gestures with his finger to mcau so mcau comes over and has to bend down to Brad and I heard Brad go we're not happy we're not
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happy right now it was the most powerful move I'd ever seen he really completely
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Lal the guy you could be having lunch with Brad at the grill and all of a sudden it turned in him and the waer was
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like him and mo green or Michael and mo Green in Vegas I don't want you to ever touch my brother and he was banging C I
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don't care you do not touch my you know it got really uh Brad inab yeah yeah spudley was he your guy too or was it gery all the time always gervitz
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always gervy Brad would just jump in on stuff but it was all you know but gery's been straight through uh since day one
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and uh had different agents but yeah the uh geritz is always funny we make fun of
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him on the show all all the [Music] time well you know the great Brad story is uh geez I don't know if I should tell
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this we can always edit just well car you've heard this where they're were they're in the
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Bernie's office uh Sandy who Sandy Warick ends up managing Adam to yeah ultimate success I mean who's had a career and Adam's Adam you know I mean he's so great at it but those two dubb
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tailed perfectly and uh so it's Sandy and Brad and Bernie and Bernie yeah berstein the vular head yeah and uh Brad says
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uh he says to the receptionist we don't want to be interrupted this is important
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I don't know what it was about and then around 10 minutes in the receptionist calls and say Brad and he's I said I
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didn't want to be interrupting he said it's your father now Brad at that point you remember they were you know his father were exchange estranged for a
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while and uh you know the Brad looked he goes uh Jesus I haven't talked to him in
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years anyway and uh birdie says well he he's either sick or he needs money and Sandy says let's hope he's sick good line good line Sandy warning
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actually Hollywood so brutal so cold but the good thing G uh BR Bernie they loved comedy that's why they have so many people that are comedians they have all the SNL guys all
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the great ones all the way back to belak and so they still have them and that's why it's fun to go in and talk to Bernie
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when I was a newer comic and he go come in here and he goes tell me what's going on and then he just wanted to [ __ ]
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laugh so fun those he was funny he gave confidence Brad brought him to see me at
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a club and he goes we're not going to give you the Saturday Night Live you bigger than Saturday
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line my previous managers thought I was a hack and you know so it was you're bigger than them he always started he'd always start his compliments off with how's about how's about you're a [ __ ]
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genius how's about he told me how's about you play Rooster te feathers again I go well what
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about starting live ah come on you got to stay in the bullpen a little bit that you were there that week that I
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was at fubars with Destiny and tree what wait great standup right yeah he was a good stand up remember there was girl Destiny and then there was the cat Earl he put on some weight and he went
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as tree trunk you remember that what do you mean he he evolved into tree trunk or he put on weight and then
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he named himself tree is this another Cy joke I need an assist talking to the best joke riter
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yeah probably ever yeah so he needs clarity so what's uh what's happening on the Pod boys I see as I looked at the thing today that it was called something else
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and it is it no longer focused on SNL is it just sort of a free forming that's been a problem from the get-go that the
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confusion over that we started a second podcast it's just us talking about videos and goofing around on YouTube on video that's called Superfly totally
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separate from fly on the wall and a lot of people don't w a lot of moving Parts there boys we took a confus confusion course at the learning ends Annex this is what we came up with and the two
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podcast hared themselves they they diseased themselves they sort of each don't start a Dr Lura thing where you called The Fly is down you know where you talk to depress people because
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you're going to dilute the brand even further you get oh no it's it's we're up for the best podcast award we're up for
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the best podcast award to again well yeah we are for best podcast on iHeart beautiful guys not exactly the Nobel Peace PR why don't you send the she send
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sashen Little Feather from down is that who Brando sent is she still picking up Awards you might look her up somewhere maybe she she can go in it would be good publicity if you guys
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said say she I don't know if they have a literal award show I think it's an online poll
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of nine people and but I'll we're over 200 podcasts we just found out we've done over 200 between the two beautiful boys Cary where are
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you at there are you up are you up this way yep beautiful on a farm I know in the Central Valley well you look like it agrees with you you look healthy as hell but you've got always had the best
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health regimen there's great hikes up that way are you going up in the mountains at all oh yeah keeping that V2
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Max going send me another picture of your quads I remember Cary used I I think I went to the workout with him once when we were on Saturday Night Live and he uh he set the uh StairMaster
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machine on the highest setting and he was talking to me throughout he like did an hour on it you know I'm over there
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doing some girls push-ups and he talked a whole hour he wasn't even gassed and you know at the end like sherpers were tapping out next to them you were in the best fit uh anerobic Di I've ever seen
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and then you had the uh the pump blew out or something back pump blew out in your heart that was later on it didn't blow out I had hyper classia but I was
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like a a sports car with a fuel injection proper but the engine was great engine was perfect listen still a
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pink TI sorry Dennis it's still not something things never change no I I watch Ford and Ferrari and Carol Shelby originally wanted to power his car with your heart
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that's how strong heart was dude I get the whole thing did you ever they did a whole thing I mean they go go in Just for Laughs get the whole scan and so I got a whole scan and I
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think I did good I think I sent it to Dana because I didn't understand it both all these years zero all these years
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when you've sort of floated on the periphery of social scenes and I know you like a nice Social Scene but you're always working the uh what did they call
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it on Old paintings they call Air be whales at the corner of the painting it would Point outside every time I've ever
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been in a social setting or a banquet with you you're always floating around the outside and then you split because
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your neck hurts and I always wondered was that just a defense mechanism to get out of a scene or did your neck actually
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hurt uh it it's its neck hurts combined with some boredom but usually but everything I feel like more the people are less boring but if you're at one of these I was at a Netflix party
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the other night and you know you go around I see people it's fun and I see famous people you don't see for a while
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so we have a few laughs but when you're walking around with like now you got a plate full of crab cakes and you're just
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now it's the fourth time you're running in a Miles Teller you just go I think I'm going to get out of here because it
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turns into a head nod and then you ignore them on the fifth one and then you just go I think I've done my job
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here tonight but I last about an it's really down to about an hour now at the even if it's a great party I'm like I
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don't know I can't [ __ ] rot well I have to tell you one I have to tell you one Dana that we're Spade stayed longer
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and this will talk about what a me f is he's always sort of ethereal and he pisses on stuff but he's the guy who's
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sending the bread to buy the bulletproof vest for the cops and Phoenix and that and my son is graduating and it's when
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Tommy Boy is out it's the biggest thing in the world and uh I as spade and just I thought if he came to this grad party they had now imagine this we we pitch
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the grad party and we're going to show Tommy Boy on a screen at this party and it's all soft drinks and that it's yeah
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it's not like we're at Paulie Shore's house up above but uh it's a just a really sweet party we're going to watch
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the film and we deliberately have the projector break or it won't function and then I said ah the kids are all like bummed up I kind of you know they they've all seen the film 10 times
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themselves and I go what are we going to do to fill time well one of the stars is here in spudley walked out from behind
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the screen it was the biggest Hue and cry people went crazy these kids and then spudley stayed for a couple hours he couldn't have been nicer he and he didn't turn into a stiff you know where
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it was all you youngsters you're GNA you know he was just cool Spade but framed properly and they all felt like they met the real guy and they still talk you know obviously my son's still once in a
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while say remember when Spade came and I always think what a cool move Davey yeah thank thank you uh spudley [ __ ] wrote
00:30:30
it out that's a fun time though that's that scenario is perfect because you're not overwhelmed it's not too much you
00:30:35
know some things are too much uh and are you still with that girl you left I'm sorry
00:30:43
what sorry what's going on alert alert Dennis you're cutting out hey Dennis was our guest I like the story he ended with about the uh Tommy Boy stuff dive this
00:30:58
ain't no horses [ __ ] sorry I'm going right back to the Last Detail I want do that for the last 40 minutes way guess who was brought up for bus boys Randy quate is that crazy he
00:31:13
get him in there we were brought up we were talking about casting and uh we were talking about I think it was for
00:31:18
Theo's dad and Theo said why don't Randy quid we're all like oh my God we can dust off Randy qu he's the nice he's the nicest guy and you remember some of his work in Midnight Express and that I mean
00:31:31
he's a great actor jeez most people know him from vacation but he's done this all this other stuff but he can just ride on
00:31:39
vacation forever because he was so good in that but I don't even know what bus boys is tell me what what is bus oh just
00:31:44
a movie me and Theo wrote and uh it's uh about two losers that want to be waiters
00:31:51
they're bus boys that try to be waiters they can't work and they think if they're waiters it'll straighten out their lives but cuz my girl girlfriend
00:31:58
ran off with a waiter so so we're like [ __ ] dude waiters got it made dude that's if we just get that it all come
00:32:05
together for us so I don't want to give it all away Dennis no come on that's pretty good but your bus boys and then
00:32:11
Shenanigans yeah happened obviously happened Dennis was there on the first round of [ __ ] Joe Dirt and then uh I
00:32:20
remember we were doing it and remember we didn't have a ton of time so that's right I mean I had my mini sides on my
00:32:27
legs in the radio station Freddy wolf behind me playing the the guy I remember that Tech Guy and then uh the zoo crew guy and then Dennis was the one of
00:32:39
course we try to write jokes for Dennis and then they're somewhat in the vicinity and then he just keeps adding
00:32:45
laughs and so it made it that every time we cut back to the radio station it's funnier because Dennis is doing all this great Jane Fonda from Clute that was not in the script I guarantee you and uh and
00:32:58
then I had my sides my leg said so many lines it was too hard I'd look down then
00:33:03
I'd say them then i' look down say them but we got through it Spradley um out of all the things I've
00:33:09
done uh I can't tell you how many people still come up to me and I always wondered why why was that I know you did it twoo but it seemed like it would have been right for two even quicker than
00:33:23
that right it's such a that's M yeah yeah we might do an animated version which would be easier because then I won't have to get look like the old jod dirt so was a sequel a few years
00:33:37
ago right yeah yeah but I'm saying that one had to go to crackle some offense to crackle I was going to say no off bought crackle yeah Sony bought crackle and they go we're g
00:33:48
to make this Netflix which was wasn't a bad idea so they said the only way we'll
00:33:54
let you do another Joe Dirt is if you go do it on Crackle now we didn't know there'd be
00:33:59
commercials in it and a not a pay wall but you'd have to sign up for crackle so all these people that want to watch it
00:34:05
have to fill out a form and make it harder and they said if we can get a million downloads out of this we'll be
00:34:13
successful and that'll help build our library and get the word out because you know I could do press at NASCAR and I
00:34:18
could go and talk to so we do it they give us a shitty budget we do it actually they cut the budget during the shoot which was bad sign not great uh
00:34:30
and then we do it I still like it I go out there and try to I didn't get paid a lot we go do it they get a million
00:34:36
downloads within two days wow and within a in a week they got two million and then they got three million and then around three and a half I just stopped asking and then I because there was just
00:34:48
they that's why I don't understand with all the stuff bail on Crackle then it folded so they crackle's still out there
00:34:55
but they decided they don't want to put money into it to make it into Netflix so I don't know what its purpose is anymore
00:35:00
but we had a good jump start very obscure well Spade that's why I'm saying with all the adherence to the in
00:35:08
intellectual property everything needs some sort of past uh you know iteration before people will bet money on it Joe Dirt number one was such a proof of concept I'm surprised somebody didn't
00:35:21
you know to think that somebody said will let you do a Joe D to if you'll do it on Crackle for God's SES why not just
00:35:26
do it on citizens ban radio they should have come in and said let's do a sequel and push chips in Like Mike did with
00:35:32
Wayne's World 2 I bet you it would have went that high yeah I don't know that was a tough part we couldn't get it
00:35:38
going and so that was our thing was um to put it there on um the witness protection program but and it's shocking it did well over there and they got all these people signed up to [ __ ] dog
00:35:51
[ __ ] crackle but then they pull the money to make it big uh like a Netflix and so the head of crackle love
00:35:58
well let's face fact once once you do the mosy through Show Business spudley you're still in the middle of it Dana ey
00:36:04
a little further down the line you're surprised you get anything off the ground honest to God the great mystery
00:36:09
to me and I don't know maybe carve had something to do with it but the biggest thing in America was church lady I see
00:36:15
some of the things they make movies of from Saturday Night Live I'm telling you carve you remember one church lady was
00:36:21
at its peak it was just it was yeah isn't that special was everywhere and the that movie theatrically this is way before Co all that stuff but I I
00:36:33
always thought that would come off what's the back story on that or you choose not to sh SNL Studios Lauren
00:36:39
Michaels didn't get an official Studio SNL Studio started after I left somewhere and that's where they did Stuart SMY movie It's Pat movie um I had an idea once that she's
00:36:51
at a Bible retreat in Santa Barbara and then she's driving her car in a rainstorm and it breaks down in Malibu
00:36:57
and then she goes and knocks on the door it's a it's a Malibu beach party full of celebrities and Sodom and gomorra W W
00:37:05
Young Frankenstein we're not wearing any pants are we you know so it just goes around um the church lady is if anyone's listening we we can do that for three
00:37:16
and a half million and just give you some back I told you you should have did Church B on one of those snls you where
00:37:23
you just do complete mash up of your Biden and you're in the church that was your
00:37:28
idea B well excellent well isn't that special more special you would have figured it out you would have figured it out no doubt
00:37:40
no he gets he gets in his one of his things and he comes into to the podium with a wig on and he thinks he's
00:37:49
uh well look I mean I don't know if this is rumor but I hear that with what they're planning with Biden's retirement is to build a replica of the Oval Office in the house and bring him in there
00:38:03
every day and then once in a while the the the fear is that you know Hunter might pretend to be a foreign person you
00:38:09
know who who's who we have next we have the ambassador to Spain here yeah hey Ola hola I'm uh my name's uh Sebastian I'm from Spain yeah what can I do for
00:38:21
the country of Spain I've always loved Spain I we could use like a hundred billion dollars all right let's do get
00:38:28
him get get him a check AO a Vista whatever dad I mean me goodbye so that's like rert pupkin the Nero and king of comedy's doing he's doing the talk show
00:38:42
down in the Bas in front of the [Music] placards but I went to 10 sat Night Live parties and stayed there till 5:00 a.m.
00:38:54
every night can you believe this Dennis this [ __ ] went car they must have been all coming up to
00:39:00
Kiss the Ring right I mean gez you're you have a Meritor status there now once you're around long long enough you do get you do get a lot more uh positive
00:39:11
feedback you know I remember when you and I would go to those SNL parties after when we were in such an unwind
00:39:18
thing and neither one of us were serious parters but that's such a pressure cooker that you would probably throw
00:39:23
five or six beers and I'd have a couple vodkas on the rocks and then we'd share car to the upper west side cuz we lived
00:39:29
across the street from each other and neither one of us are great drinkers I mean you could handle your beer better I
00:39:36
have never left as hard in my life as when we would go up the you know the the Westside Highway and just uh how from
00:39:44
some of those parties that were way down we just so silly like you know it flying
00:39:50
you and I flying together and sort of flaunting our Neurosis in a funny way but was the seat behind me and I'm in the seat ahead and we're just flying across the country and Dennis over and
00:40:04
over again with lean in and say Carvey if you see anything out of the ordinary anything I want to be the first to know and if he said that one time he said it like 40 50 every single time it Crush we
00:40:18
were so frightened flying Carvey and I were event grew to be a good flyers I had a good Insight from pen pen Gillette
00:40:26
once of pen and tell or we were on a flight and it was getting bouncy and uh he was reading the newspaper he didn't
00:40:32
even look over at me I was getting pissed off it's one of those things where you get pissed off and somebody's not afraid of flying when it's really
00:40:38
bumpy and I look over and I go you're [ __ ] kidding me this doesn't scare you he goes what I get this and he
00:40:44
finally looks up and now he's cognizant that we're in really bad turbulence and he looked at me he oh shut up but
00:40:51
Alexander the Great would have given everything he ever done for two and a half minutes up here which some weird
00:40:58
way gave me uh clarity about the pragmatic nature of flying and but when Carvey and I were on the road together we were both so flipped out that we' get
00:41:09
we'd get plaster you remember that night we were over the Rocky Mountains in that electrical store and we both called
00:41:14
Bernie brosy and our manager home and told him we were leaving the company we you have a out here on the road you're on [ __ ] Malibu on AR architectural Digest son of a [ __ ] yeah
00:41:30
Dennis used to say got a little light chop and a little dirty air that's how they tone it down you're like I'm
00:41:36
bouncing off the ceiling we got a little light chop yeah I just want to say two words
00:41:42
about this chop structural Integrity they always go you know the W wings of the plane can touch at the top I'm like I don't know if we need to get that far and test this out carf did you
00:41:54
get better at it I haven't flown with you in a while I've got I've gotten better at it yeah I think so I think you
00:42:02
just get worn down by it but I still do get thirsty on an airplane even with the
00:42:07
little bit of packed in there claustrophobia you know I'm just bouncing around it's third hour in and
00:42:13
I'm kind of bored and then it's like someone comes up very nicely and says would you like something to drink and I
00:42:20
go okay you're not trying to pretend with me you're still on Commercial Air are you because I mean come on are you
00:42:27
are you kidding me well the gross in the net gets Disturbed when you do a gig and
00:42:32
you get very disturbed it gets it gets altered yeah you know they were cheaper now it's when it's a push it's bad yeah you remember when that spudley that was one of the best days in my life we had a
00:42:45
gig in a place called therville Oklahoma or something Oklahoma we wanted to get in and out and Norm was with us the three of us were the the headliners and
00:42:56
we a plane and we flew from Van eyes or Burbank I think to therville there was you know you didn't even have to land in uh Dallas and do the Drive North because there was a somewhere up near therville
00:43:09
which was a nice gig I don't want to City thille Casino Casino you're right it's a and we we knocked the gig out and then we split right after so between all
00:43:20
of the stuff we were there you know together for like uh 10 or 12 hours that I have never left so hard Norm for sure that killing me that was my last Norm
00:43:31
hangout I mean I think because it before covid one funny thing Dennis did is he goes hey spudley well I think we each had to do 30 and he's like uh you wantan to I
00:43:43
think I might want to go first and run run back to the room and take care of some stuff and I'm like oh then okay
00:43:49
then nor goes then I should go on after that and I go yeah go ahead you [ __ ] [ __ ] I have to follow these two
00:43:56
great comedians so fine now did you know spudley that uh did you know that Norm was I did not know Norm was that that
00:44:04
you know he was pretty no I was I never knew kind of mad about it because we kept setting up a dinner and then he
00:44:11
kept going I go so what so it's six o'clock so you're heading over and you're like what it's co I go Norm we've
00:44:20
gone over this it's nine months into covid you drive to my house we sit 10 feet apart at my table what I go we keep just you agree to it
00:44:31
and then you can actually hard of hearing or was that just a stall tactic I I go I didn't like it when he would
00:44:37
text what I go Norm you can't text what you hear me on text isn't it ironic that
00:44:44
Norm's true genius and I don't know from the first time I met him I told you that first joke he I heard there was a new
00:44:51
kid in LA from Canada Eddie Feldman my writer said there's a guy here who great I saw him his name is nor McDonald and I said well where did you see him he said I saw him at the Improv and he did that
00:45:02
great joke where he said uh I I feel sorry for the homeless guy but I really feel sorry for the homeless guy's dog
00:45:09
because you know the dog's thinging this is the longest [ __ ] walk I've ever been on do we do we eventually go in
00:45:15
somewhere because I could do this on my own and I heard that joke I said your that is so funny so I get on the horn
00:45:21
with norm and I say hey I know you're just here and I'm just saying if you want to stop Gap writing job I've got
00:45:27
this talk show and uh I said I'd hire you right now but just the protocols dictate you send in some sort of uh uh a batch of jokes or something and Norm said I don't do batches but I'll send in
00:45:39
one joke and you guys can make a determination he was already hired but I was trying not to usurp the head writer
00:45:46
and producer's uh you know their office and I didn't want to over step so uh I go okay send a joke and the joke is he reads the AP wire story of Jeffrey dmer
00:45:57
tral and it's so grotesque and detailed you know the actual transcript about disembowelment and eating pancrea B and
00:46:06
he reads the whole thing and then he says at the end dmer defended himself by saying he started
00:46:14
it it's like the greatest Joe cber so we hired him and I always thought he was a
00:46:21
genius from that point on but he always sort of was on The Fringe and now it's so unfortunate it's like to me he's like van go you know when you hear about van go uh during his lifetime having to you
00:46:34
know take handouts from Tao and that Norm was not taking handouts but I'm just saying every day I look now on the
00:46:41
uh reels that I get it's nor reminded of another great joke yeah 100% because I get these nor McDonald pages and people send them to me and I'm like I don't remember this joke like there's a couple
00:46:53
that I never saw I don't know if you guys had this experience but I was just I had a long drive and some reason I
00:46:59
ended up talking with norm and for an hour and a half we talked about our career issues and he was just completely not one joke and just sort of talking
00:47:11
about this sitcom didn't go and they didn't know what to do with me and it was very interesting to be around him
00:47:17
the only other time I heard him like that was when his atache assistant best friend Lori Joe had some heart issues
00:47:24
and they were Consulting with me she's fine for people who are listening but uh Joe and I could tell that Norm was
00:47:31
really worried and um so he had that other side of course but as far as obtuse onliners I I would praise him as high as as putting him on Dennis's
00:47:42
footing I would put those two guys that's no I'm being totally real I mean look th this is an example of a thing that I always quote about you and it it
00:47:52
it just kills me I don't know why but you were up there you're opening for me or I'm opening for you and you go Jimmy
00:47:59
cracked corn and I don't care what the kind of hell out of chin is that you know I mean like who does that who would do a joke like that I had to go out with
00:48:12
this guy and I did uh what either black or white special I think Schneider did open for one and I open for one and uh
00:48:19
you have to go up before Dennis's crowd but they're nice and then Dennis does a killer hour so great each joke
00:48:27
double your cards out yeah app great um you know when we uh when I when I actually saw recently sometime in the last year I mean by recently our our young comedian specialist studl that
00:48:40
that was quite a murderer's row of comedians when I look back on it Freddy St was good Jan was good car I think
00:48:47
you're friends with Jan carum right or you know she was in it Drake uh that cat Thomas who's no longer with us but was a and you and Schneider I mean you look
00:48:59
back man we were hit we hit the ball that night oh [ __ ] yeah Dennis hosting it Brad and gerit produced it and uh what a great one that got me at least in
00:49:11
the vicinity of SNL and then uh you helped on that one too I remember writing [ __ ] update jokes for Dennis it's so hard God dang it's so hard to
00:49:22
write a bunch of jokes it's just update jokes are a different world too people get there as comics and think you're
00:49:28
going to write a sketch very easily it's such a different muscle it's so hard to figure out that formula you know I see
00:49:35
uh I see reals of the current guys who do it and I I don't I'll be honest I don't watch the show um and there's no
00:49:43
grievance there I just it's not my not up at 11:30 on Saturday but I do see these clips of them together and when they do that back and forth thing where they write jokes for each other
00:49:54
they kill is so funny and I I I don't remember seeing reals of them years ago so I don't know if they've grown into it or not but I think his name's Yos and uh
00:50:06
Chay are very funny together Colin and Michael yeah they started doing that maybe just a couple three years ago I
00:50:13
think but they've evolved that with this chemistry to become one of the alltime Duos up there and when I was there the
00:50:21
last show Michael wrote some jokes called jokes for Colin to read live on air and they were extremely inappropriate racist and there were a lot of stuff about his wife Scarlett
00:50:33
Johansson and they would cut to her in the hallway looking at it on a monitor and that crushed because Colin lost it
00:50:41
for real on on live TV laughing so hard barely getting through it that Crush as hard as anything I'd seen in that studio in a long time to talk to somebody who's
00:50:51
inside there car because I've heard that too and sometimes these stories are almost apocryphal about things because I
00:50:58
remember you know let's face facts when you'd go out with Robin everybody'd say he's just making it up as he went along
00:51:03
and he often made things up but he also had a Corey worked off nobody's going out there with absolutely nothing so you
00:51:10
hear these tales and you wonder are they actually seeing each other's jokes you believe for the first time they are when
00:51:17
they do that yeah when they do that they do but they don't do them because they're not that no one's that great an
00:51:22
actor I mean they that they're they're really shocked by I'm happy to hear that yeah well you remember I the first time I heard that was uh melany who I think is a genius used to write jokes for that
00:51:36
character that uh was a guy who went bter did hater with the hands over his mouth Stefan or something the single funniest joke I
00:51:50
think I've ever heard on Weekend Update is hater would always the template was this place has everything and uh and then he did the quintessential New
00:52:02
Yorker joke and only people who have lived in New York and co-ops or Condominiums will know what this means
00:52:08
be say this place has everything dman who high five Children of Divorce and you remember the doorman in your building was always like you know
00:52:22
like part of the family after a couple years and and everything in your building building was known by everybody
00:52:28
else and if there was a you know disturbance in the force the guy would go out of his way to make the youngans
00:52:33
feel good but children you know that yeah melany is an incredible joke writer uh the the you know being on that show again a lot of magic stuff happens at
00:52:46
the dress show I just anecdotally it seemed to me the dress show just had more energy and and just um so the fact
00:52:57
that Colin did not they don't do those jokes at the dress show they're just doing them live live show but there's
00:53:03
something about like I would go do Biden yeah and I come out of the dress show when I first started Landing it people
00:53:09
like clapping and Wow way to go and then I would do the air show try to do equivalent and then you come out out of ADH and everyone's just like you know so
00:53:20
there is something I I just want I mean the show works the way it works it's 50 years should never change it but I
00:53:26
wondered if Carol brunnett if they essentially shot the dress show and that allowed for a lot more spontaneity you know because it's the first time you're com take is good yeah yeah I think they
00:53:40
did I I think they did shoot both of them but uh I think they leaned heavily towards the one on air but yeah if
00:53:47
you're going to run a dress why not shoot it right I mean well they shoot it and the air sometimes goes higher but I
00:53:55
I it just one of got cold out there the audience it's a tractor pull to get into that studio waiting and late and um you
00:54:03
know you know one of mine early ones was Michael J fox impression and he came on
00:54:08
the the child actors we were going to rob a bank together or something and uh that was I think a smile bit super
00:54:15
hilarious and so I was playing Michael J fox he was playing Danny bonuchi and when I was doing a speech right to him he started cracking up and dress and it was a [ __ ] monster and then on air he
00:54:27
didn't laugh cuz he' heard it and I'm like where was this please God air the [ __ ] dress was there was a bit where someone was spraying water at Colin for the dress show and it was the first time
00:54:41
and then it just had this magic to it and then the air show was fine perfectly great but there is something about the
00:54:48
first time you can't like top it that's crew knows it's coming half the I mean the cast sees it once so it's not 100%
00:54:56
it's a thing that don't Peak at dress it's a thing do not peek at dress car was the uh was the schedule still the
00:55:03
same and what part did they asked you to participate in did you still have that Monday thing where everybody sat around
00:55:08
Lauren's office because I I came in just to do Biden contract I was sort of I was
00:55:14
placed with Maya Rudolph and Gaffigan and Andy Samberg and so they the first show they asked gaffan and I to come into the read through which is now an 8 H and it's like a giant there's kiding
00:55:29
it's a h I didn't know this you got Place cards and table CLS and snacks and there's a piano and they they do
00:55:36
Symphony Orchestra they bring in classical music and so they have those massage chairs
00:55:43
like at the airport where you sit kneel on them what we we were doing a circle jerk
00:55:48
in a broom closet on 17 it it's harder to kill there a lot of the writers kind of miss that up up on 17 the of the room
00:55:57
it's just dissipates Hy's leftovers yeah you know that that meeting room on 17 really was Thunderdome wasn't it man you sweat box you often Saw Killer shots
00:56:10
there but there was a couple times where people overreached I don't even want to name names because I'm old and
00:56:15
conciliatory now but a couple times you can remember people really going for something and it's just hanging there
00:56:22
and you know Lauren would all right moving on oh the bo was breaking records it was everyone was so nervous it was sickening and then they someone would get up her L would crack the window a
00:56:34
quarter inch and be freezing within two seconds and it's like it's like the worst is when they do Show and Tell like
00:56:41
you put on a little hat or you have a little instrument or something or a vest sweater and you're going to stand up and
00:56:47
act it out and then it's dead silence you know U moving on I'm a yane doodle sad little say Circ you know back think about how lucky
00:57:01
it was I mean geez I uh you know I look back and I was never a cool kid and I think spudley and you seem but little I I don't know of your youth as much but
00:57:14
uh I think we're all a little bit nerdly and all of a sudden you're in the crosshairs of it man and when I look
00:57:20
back I just always think wow how lucky that was to be in that room with all its with all its uh you know sort of dles hanging over your head and if you [ __ ] up three weeks in a row you were
00:57:30
probably gone but uh I looked back and it was uh it was the juice wasn't it man you the spice as they say in Doom you really got the spice in that room I feel
00:57:42
for the you know the young cast and a lot of the people you know there's 18 or 20 I don't know how many cast members
00:57:48
and I was talking to one of them once and he goes look it's it's hard to be relaxed out there because you know if
00:57:54
you go out there and you don't quite land it then you're not going to be written for it you're not going to be in
00:57:59
the show for a few weeks so it's hard to get loose when we came in Dennis we had such a small
00:58:05
cast that everybody got their reps in which it look if I had not gone on that show I don't I think I'm I'm playing yuck yucks in uh Merced tonight you know
00:58:17
so that was my ticket you know I was 31 when I got on there I'd had my tenures in the clubs and I bombed every every pilot that they put me in and the Burton
00:58:28
Kirk film and it was a disaster Dam damage Goods to your point the luck of getting on there and then of course you
00:58:34
were like made out of a factory to be the update guy cuz you could land jokes and you're such a reader I mean it really matters to be able to read really well is a big Advantage see a card you
00:58:48
know nail it yeah Larry King said to me one night I had him on my HBO show and he said God
00:58:58
you know how to read a prompter and I I I I you know some people would take that as a you're a prompter chimp joke I
00:59:06
looked at him and said Larry that's the nicest thing anybody could say that is nice it's hard to do but it was
00:59:12
difference let me ask you a question this is technical for the people listening still like Q cards versus
00:59:20
prompter what would you PR cards me too because it kept you uh listen that can go r i there is something you were talking about first show second show I want to sound too like uh we don't sit
00:59:32
there and do Oppenheimer things on blackboards about how the show goes but half of the thing is the frison uh of it
00:59:40
fear you know like the surface tension when you overpour glass that tremble that's where the whole money shot is on
00:59:46
that show and I always thought the cards sometimes they wouldn't come out at the same pace and you felt less robotic
00:59:53
about it it could go a ride plus my card girl was was Tom Laughlin's daughter Billy Jack's daughter which I always dug
00:59:59
that because I love Billy Jack so much so whenever I was in trouble with the crowd I'd think of saying when I see
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what you've done to this little audience I just go pivot kick berserk like in the ice cream parlor but uh the the fact
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that it could go wrong a little I always dug that uh feeling because then when you conquered it and it didn't always go
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right there were times and boy you were hang dog the next day if you blew you screwed the pooch as they say at Nasa
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but for most part you're not going to screw the pooch there because you get you you do it with some degree of
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alacrity and uh I used to like that man not feeling carve you remember when you'd come up and do something at the desk and we would just be howling at how
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how maxed out it was and spudley used to kill with the uh you know the guywood yeah it was well we we know the power of home
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base and right to camera because when I was I was doing church lady and David was out doing Hunter Biden and it was
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getting used to that idea of look don't look at the cards there's the wide shot there's the money shot also kind of glance over at your guest but don't go too profile it's just getting used to
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all that but money you know when I was doing Biden normally it was just straight ahead it's much
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easier gives me chills thinking about it when you're on that show and you're you're in a good sketch catch and you do your lines and you kind of miss them you lay down a broken bat single and you
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walk back off camera and everyone every one kind of darts their eyes you're like [ __ ] I had two lines to get it right I
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just kind of missed it or you fluff it you're like if I just had one more take it would be better but you do that too
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many like you said in a row you it's so under rehearsed and the director Liz who's a lovely person I really got
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myself in her shoes of like you're doing Hunter I'm doing my thing how long do you hold right after the laugh or do you
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cut after the line and then of course bumbling a line is so painful or not getting a laugh and realizing later the camera wasn't on you
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yeah the cutting because she doesn't have that much time or we had Davey Wilson it's it's such a fly by night
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thing so but when it works it's magic put it that way for sure well Carver you had a nice uh return there man you hit
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the ball really hard every day I'd go I'm golfing a lot now and the guys at my golf of course would always oh Cary
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killed me over the weekend so nice to know you were still putting Good Wood on the ball brother how how'd your chops
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feel did it come back to you right away or it never went um well I you know I'd done some Biden just slowly but surely I was gathering a Biden up you know
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because I noticed no one was really doing him you know and so when I went there and read through I didn't I was
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this just coalescing in my head but Lauren was sitting next to me and no one had really kind of figured out out Biden
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how to make it funny or sensitive or whatever so I just had I had this thing of and guess what and by the way just
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that and then I saw Lauren shoulders go up like that and he was happy so I knew I had a hook and I think that I was
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discovering it with the audience live in real time but yeah it came back to me for sure it felt like I was home again
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doing rhythms and I'd had a warmup with him on on on this podcast and I had some
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clips out with him up with the Biden I was doing so I had a lot of H good honing because you got to
01:03:30
make mistakes here boy when they're cutting back and forth between the shots here spade looks like he's in some uh
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swing you know private booth uh somewhere in a VIP booth and then you got to you got to uh trick that place out a little that room you're in you got you got that table over here it
01:03:50
looks like uh the Pixar opening credits with that lamp or something you got to get the
01:03:57
get get get some flowers in there or something get some flowers leave this over on the left it's like The Honeymooners it's like Cron's place with the pixel light on top of it
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spudley what's your book over your shoulder what what are you selling there what's that oh that was a John lennin
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book because I bought the glasses John Lin's glasses and that's wear on that book and uh this this is Dana White gave me this your boy gave me that Bruce Lee
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skateboard Dennis you can react whenever you're ready I thought well I just thought uh we we give him an edit point
01:04:37
there in case we're wrapped up because I got a split soon oh yeah let's go um that's it Dennis um been hilarious we love you and you're one of the uh I
01:04:50
don't know if you should retire you're still better than 99 to 100% of the comics out I'm liking being retired man
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you know what I just uh the I just want to explore what it's like not do it you know I did it so long that I thought I don't even know what I'm like as a when did I started writing jokes and staying
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in that uh that guys that maybe at 30 71 now and I just thought man you know why
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don't I analyze hopefully I get another 10 or 20 I'm going to just try to see what it's
01:05:20
like being what am I what am I like without all the trappings of that well do you find did you find this because I
01:05:27
feel like if I go before I ever did standup then I start to do it just as a nobody in San Francisco just this little bit of tension or weight it would come and go but it was just there I should be
01:05:41
writing more material I should be doing that a club and then SNL I should did that and that movie bombed I got to do this and I got and so there's still like
01:05:48
this sort of weightiness when you're connected to it and the excitement of that and making money and all that but I
01:05:53
just wonder when you Psych logically take that away does your relaxation quotient go way up well I've been reading and I saw Seinfeld was reading this too which is intriguing to me
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because uh I've been reading a lot of the stoics Marcus Aurelius sen and uh trying yeah he he's into that and I'm just trying to see what's on the other side of that apprehension about not
01:06:18
doing it I I think there's something important there I don't want to sound too ethereal and maybe I'll find out
01:06:23
that I just missed doing it maybe you'll see me you know back in a walker D doing jokes or something but right now I'm
01:06:29
thinking okay I always diffused that sort of anxiety or fear of the Unknown by telling a joke or getting up on stage or smiling and glad handing and and I thought what's what's beyond that so I'm
01:06:43
just trying to sit in it for a moment and I'm finding on the other side of it I'm kind of enjoying that lack of
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apprehension because let's face facts I don't care how much you feel safe going out on stage and you do get safer over
01:06:56
the years i' still getting there the going AC cross country and getting there and going to the place and right before you go on and then it can go wrong at
01:07:07
any moment I mean I you you the moment you start thinking this can't go wrong it's like Robin's old bit that he did in
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his first special about step inside the comedian's mind where you hear that submarine clocks and go mayday
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mayday Dive Dive yeah so I don't miss I don't miss that part of it but when a joke pops into my head I often think uh well listen I'll call Cary with church Biden but not get smacked back in your
01:07:34
face like the one quick question just how does stoicism relate to what you just said um just letting go or being in the moment or not making problems that don't
01:07:50
exist is kind of part of it right well I'm trying to find out I used to control things with my Showbiz career in a way
01:07:57
because you can manage that you're really managing an efficient organization to some degree when you're
01:08:02
in the middle of it and then I realize that you're not managing anything and if the you know I don't know when this airs
01:08:09
but if the Palisades doesn't remind you that yeah I was just trying to get my head around the fact that really you don't you have to balance not
01:08:20
controlling anything except your thought processes and still leading a happy non
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morbid life you don't have to be forlorn about I'm just trying to find that delicate where the Ben diagram Taps
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where you realize that you don't have any control over it and in an odd way that should free you up to not worry
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about it as much so things happen that makes a lot of sense yeah all right boys well you know I love you both and I love you with all my heart it's been a blast hanging out with
01:08:52
you and then we also recorded it and we'll get paid so check in now and then and give us some new stuff if you got
01:08:58
jokes to burn well listen you got to get rid of I've been staring at Bruce Le's nipple for an hour here now and it appears he only has one in that
01:09:09
photo and who else had one nipple in famous lore Harvey I'll quiz you there Anderson Paul Harvey
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which scaramanga the man with a golden gun played by the great yeah that guy that guy no he had a third nipple he got Bruce Le's other one I
01:09:34
just remember there was some sort of arola discrepancy was among discrep all right Dennis love you buddy love you buddy this has been a presentation of
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