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Robert Smeiggel. Robert Smeiggel >> coming back at you. >> You know, we will say this a lot, but
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arguably the best sketch writer. There's no such thing as the best. He's among
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>> the greatest uh >> comedy sketch writers >> of his generation. And he's written a
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lot of movies with Sandler and so and he's our friend and uh it was just fun.
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is Triumph the dog. That's very orry. >> Yeah, I think he does a lot of Triumph.
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And Triumph actually, well, you'll see it gets a little get gets heated a little bit between us and Triumph.
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>> Oh, that's right. And Triumph Oh, also Smiggle, didn't he? Wasn't he the
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headwriter for Conan for a while for the first show? >> Uh for the the talk show he did. Yeah.
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Yeah, he was the headwriter there. And he's uh he was one of my bosses at SNL
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because he was always in the room picking sketches with Franken and Downey and Lauren. So he always had a lot of
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pole. >> Mhm. >> He does night of night of too many stars. I think that's for autism. It's
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his charity. >> He did the Dana Carvey show that lasted eight episodes with
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>> Dino Stapanopoulos. >> That disaster. >> Steve Carell and Steven Colbear.
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>> Whoops. Allstar >> Louis CK. >> Louis CK I hired as my headwriter.
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>> I mean, >> no, >> she did pretty well. >> Um, all right. So, here's Robert. We
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have a lot of laughs cuz we know him very well. >> Enjoy >> all the momentum we had with the Lauren
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impression. >> Oh, we were Oh, yeah. And you were saying Lauren, you did impression before
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that. before Mark McKini. Mark McKini did um the only person who did it my first year was Mark McKini and he did
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like a >> beautifully accurate Lauren like a wellobserved Lauren >> and actually said complete sentences
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>> and it was very impressive. But then the next year I just started doing cartoony
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Lauren on my own. And then I went into I remember going into Dana's office. >> Mhm.
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>> And uh you know I and I admitting that I sort of do Lauren like you know I want
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to show and look I think Dana and then Dana's like oh yeah I do Lauren too. And
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Dana starts going like oh what do you think of act three? Just had that move. Like something
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Lauren's never done in his life. I did a lot of things. >> Incredibly per. It was just perfect. It
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was like this self-satisfied. >> We still have no [ __ ] first act. >> I've got no [ __ ] first act. No
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[ __ ] code. >> Marcy, look at the book of horn, please. Chapter two. >> Frank and ride a bush. Frank and ride a
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bush. Franken ride a bush. Immediately >> Frank and a bush. There was a lot of
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bush cold openings. >> Franken. >> Remember Robert when you made the
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cartoon thing where you flip the pages? Which what which cartoon? >> Well, I was doing Bush Senior so much. I
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didn't know that the writing staff was kind of like again. So then I saw a thing where it's like a flip page where
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it was Bush. Yeah. And he sp You spin it and see me as Bush. >> It was like It was like a series of It
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was like one of those flip. What was it? It was like Was it Franken putting Bush cold open on the What?
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>> I thought it was Bush taking a poo or something. I thought it was scatological.
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>> It could have been. >> I like Frank and putting the card on the on the uh lineup.
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>> I have to say Franken takes a beating on your show. >> He's coming. He's coming on very very
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soon. I mean, he's become like Well, Sarah got him back by stabbing him in the head
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with a pencil. >> Yeah. >> Did you hear that one? >> Well, I went through
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>> I was not there. That was after I had um left for Conan. But but do you remember
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this? Uh Spade, I bet you remember this. So one of the impressions I I was the one I think who started that
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>> like me and Conan I used to do this thing for Conan of Al. Um and I feel bad
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because Al got me the job actually and I love Al but but he was tough back then and so everybody kind of yeah needed to
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release some energy. Mine was like Al on his back and it like a snapping turtle.
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>> Flip me over. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. >> Well, I I thought that's why he would
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when he was running for senator, I thought he'll be great in there because Al is blunt and doesn't he just says
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what he thinks. I thought that'd be good for It was great. But on the but well
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boy when he was in the Senate he was my hero because he >> he kind of like
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>> contained himself from being as confrontational like I mean at the show
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>> his last few years at the show I think I think he was kind of unhappy to be
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honest with you. I mean, he was like in his 40s and I don't think this is what
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he was dreaming of doing in his 40s and I I think it was I think that's in his
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defense like he was confused as to what he wanted to do with his life and then he started writing those books and I
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think he found direction and >> yeah he's always hyper political and that was fun writing with him and Downey
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cuz you know dreams and then he's sitting next to Spade at readthrough and he's like what happened.
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>> It's like George Seagull and just shoot me. He goes in the middle of a scene.
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He'd stop and he goes, he'd look at the crowd. He goes, "I did a movie with
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Elizabeth Taylor and I'm standing next to this [ __ ] now." >> Well, I remember Jan Hooks once saying
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to me, "Shmag, don't become one of those writers who's 50 years old and wearing
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blue jeans and sitting on the floor, flannel shirt, whatever you do." It's
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always sitting on the floor with a notebook. >> It's true. I mean, it's just you never
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grow up when you're at that >> a little sache where you put your bitterness in a bitterness pouch. We're
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like just keep loading things >> and Al's defense didn't get up the show.
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I did 6 years. It gets mind-numbing and it gets you're in a box of like no sun
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and pizza and ordering in and stress and everyone else's energy. And so, >> you did a long run there, too. You seem
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pretty normal, but that that was a long run you had. >> I did a long run that I got out when I
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was like 33 and to do the Conan show and then I came back but in a much more sane capacity. I just did the cartoons.
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Yeah. And all I had to do was show up on >> Yeah. All I had to do was show up on
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Saturday. So I wasn't really a part of the the thing anymore. But Al was like,
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you know, there every day and he's like in his 40s. Well, let's get back to Schmiggel's
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unbelievable career. Do we want to be a little bit uh do we want to go a little bit to Young Smiggle first or would you
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like to go later? >> Young or what about Can my friend come on cuz he thinks Young Smiggle's a
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[ __ ] boore to be honest. >> Yeah. Let me see who do you got over there? >> He's been he's been uh he's been riding
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me ever since. >> This is This is unique for Fly on the Wall. We have a a guest with a special
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guest. You have a guest with a guest who's just I don't know. He just thinks
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that he can jazz it up. You know, >> he better behave. >> Should I bring him out?
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>> Bring him out. Why not? >> This is Oh goodness. >> WHAT? HERE I AM. Here I am. FINALLY. GOD
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Jesus Christ. What a long wait. No, this is terribly exciting. So exciting. >> Hi, Triumph.
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>> Blind. >> Do not make fun of this show or us. Triumph. I did. Please.
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>> Oh, I know. I understand. Those are the ground rules I have to work with.
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>> No, no, no jokes about the show. No, no making fun of anyone. >> Okay, good.
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>> No, honestly, this is a great show. Fly on the wall. >> Not for me to poop on. No, no, fantastic
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show. >> That's good. Fly on the wall. There's a lot of buzz I hear around Fly.
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>> Good job, Triumph. Thank you. >> Yeah, the same kind of uh buzz flies
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make around my ass. You see it because it's not as attract [ __ ] and the show is what makesense. You
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see the joke you get. >> Yeah, that took a turn. But you like it. It's
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>> it's what it's a switcheroo. >> No spade. This is a great show. It fills
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a need, you know, because let's face it, Saturday Night Live, it hasn't gotten
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enough attention or retrospectives or anniversary shows. Just I mean honestly I mean just the
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other day I was thinking this uh after watching my best of finesse Mitchell DVD I was THINKING WHY WHY HAS SNL BEEN
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written about only slightly more than World War II? Why not? And today's show my goodness. How did
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you land this guest? The hand up my ass. Seriously, I'm worried. I'm I'm a little
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concerned. This is your first season. You've already run out of people we care
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about. >> No, Smiggle's a big deal. He wrote a lot of great stuff. Hey, sure he is.
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Everybody stay tuned. We've got the fourth funniest guy from the the Bear sketch.
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>> And you have to explain what this sketch was to people under 60. It's trouble.
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>> This is what you're looking forward to. You already did Sandler, Rock, Mike
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Myers. This is your future. This is pretending to be interested in questions like tell me in coming up with goat boy
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which came first to you the goat or the boy is it a boy who becomes a goat or a goat who becomes a boy? Our listeners
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really our 10 remaining listeners are dying >> there's more we didn't get the news.
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>> No I kid I kid again. >> Oh he's kidding Dana. >> No your show's great. It's a very very
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successful money grab. I mean hit you have like how many subscri you got like 400,000 listeners right? Yeah,
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>> I'm going to say yes. >> And not to this episode, that's for
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sure. But up to now, >> now here the all we can hope today is to beat Alan's Y Bell's numbers
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>> numbers. >> And who better? >> Who better to co-host this show than
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Dana Carvey, one of the alltime greatest cast members on Saturday Night >> and then why why would you say that?
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It's almost as if you think I'm going to hurt your feelings. Oh, I think this
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will be a compliment. >> Exactly. Dana Carvey, one of the all-time greatest cast members of Saturday Night
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Live, and David Spade, who was also on the show. >> No, Spade's everywhere. Spade is doing
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great. He's everywhere. This is Dana, this is actually a boost for you. You know, audiences are connecting with you
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again. That's what's great. I only wish, Dana, that you did this show like 15
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years ago, you know, when podcasts were starting and all the people you do impressions of were still alive.
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>> Now it's like >> I've lost a lot of them. >> Now it's like, hey folks, what would
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happen? What if Ross Perau and Jimmy Stewart weren't rotting corpses slowly disintegrating into the soil? So might
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go something like the Well, you're you're trying to be president. Yeah, I can't finish one
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time. I'll just do it there. I did. >> Listen to your act. It's like the audio
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six sense. I hear dead people. >> I'm sorry. Is this wrong? This is a podcast. You're supposed to You're
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supposed to be complimenting each other on >> That's what it is, right?
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>> I mean, yeah, >> that's what podcasts are. White people complimenting each other.
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>> Yeah. We need more old white people. Very nice. >> Old white people complimenting. Old
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white people. Old white people compliment. I've got a theme song for you. >> Harmonize with me, Dana. Old white
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people complimenting. Old white people. Old white people. >> Old white people.
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>> It's very hard to do over Zoom. I just realized. >> I Yes. >> Listen, Spade Spade,
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>> I don't I don't want to uh insult you. You had an amazing career.
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>> Thank you. >> Yeah. Tommy boy then starring in a string of hit sitcoms that no one
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remembers waiting for him to fake laugh. >> I'm laughing. >> Hey,
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>> and God bless Bernie Brilstein, right? He started the whole thing off, right?
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>> Calling the creators of Just Shoot Me and gently coaxing Steve Levitan to hire
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his client. >> You need a comic relief guy. >> I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I didn't
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mean to. No, it's hysterical. Easy trim. >> Um, snippity dippity. >> No, I think we got to put people We got
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to let them >> No, that's that's uh showed your thing. You did your thing.
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>> Did Triumph hurt your feelings? I need to know. >> No, >> not at all.
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>> Little bit spade. >> No, because I thought Triumph is a little older now and maybe he was not
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like that anymore. >> No, no, it's like it's I'm older. That's
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the problem. Like I didn't give a [ __ ] about this when I started trying. >> I I liked old white people complimenting
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other old white people or something like that. That was >> We looked it up. There's 2.8 million
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podcasts. >> Are you kidding me? >> It's like it's like co It's just there's
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more every day and no one knows what to do and people are getting affected with it.
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>> Here's what I've observed about this one because I've listened to a few.
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>> Okay. >> And what's very funny to me, Spade, is like you're one of the funniest persons
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in the world. This is an old white person. compliment compliment. >> But on this show,
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>> it's all about >> a life you lived when you were like in the 90s and you're kind of have to
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revert. >> It's you're always reverting to that guy at the show >> who hadn't made it big yet. You're like
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always like, >> "Yeah, no, you guys were incredible and I didn't know what to do."
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>> Right. It's just funny to me that Spade, who's had this amazing run.
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>> Well, it does when we throw back, >> everybody gets back in that around the
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writer table and how [ __ ] ordering Huxley's and all the stupid [ __ ] It sort of throws you back to the dim
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lighting and feeling like [ __ ] all the time. >> It was a stressful. Would you consider
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it? I would say like I love the show so much and people I met and worked with and yet I was always stressed.
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>> Yeah. I also remember how skinny your little office was. Like I think people
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thought it was some palatial place. It's these little dungeons and then I would
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go along the line and poke my head in to see if I can get my name on anybody's
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sketch. >> Do you remember Do you remember what I my affectionate nickname for you was?
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>> No. What was it? Spudley. >> No. Well, everybody had Spudley into the
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noodles. No, Chief Not show >> Chief Not Show because I was never in the show.
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>> It's so he was but >> I wasn't in much. I think I went >> You got in it in 9345.
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>> I did go >> once Dana left. >> That's what was weird. It's so weird
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because you were kind of pigeonholed. I remember your audition. >> Yeah. >> And you were very funny, but you were
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kind of like spade light. You weren't like letting your whole kind of >> persona
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>> persona come out later. Yeah. >> And people like saw you as like this
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nicel looking kind of blonde guy who did some impression. I think you did Tom Petty.
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>> Yeah. >> It was like oh he's going to be like a Dana Carvey type
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>> and then and Dana Carvey was still on the show. So I think people didn't know
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what to do with >> I think I didn't but I also wasn't in in full disclosure
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thinking I was the new Dana Carvey. I was like, "Are you this guy?" I go,
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"This guy's the best guy." And he does a million things. I go, "I got to find
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what I can do." And luckily, like even that Hollywood minute where Lauren I was
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sort of teetering and then he's like, "Well, just do more stuff like that cuz
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that makes me a little different from Dana." And then I could find my own little niche or something. I don't know.
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It was tough. It was very that that part was tough. >> Even the receptionist, which was like
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the best sketch of that season. >> Oh yeah. I remember someone in a high position saying, "Yeah, but could Dana
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play that?" No [ __ ] >> No, of course he could. >> I came in and played an alien, right?
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Did I play? I felt bad because I said, you know, it's always hard, smile, if
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you're a writer and if you're a new writer to put Mike Myers or Dana in something where they don't have a lot to
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do. >> But, you know, in your head you're like, "Oh, it'd be fun. I have access to all
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these great people and I don't know." They're quietly going, "Ah, it's not
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that great." But Dana goes, "Yeah, I'll do whatever." So I go, "You come in at
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the end as an alien." I don't realize they're gonna put him in like three
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hours of makeup and hair. Remember, you had a big bulbous head on. >> I had a giant like, "Oh no, I can't put
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Dana through this shit." >> And it also makes sometimes >> I was part of being on the team.
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>> Yeah. You know what I have to say? No one complain. >> McKinnon still gets into crazy outfits
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and says two lines in a sketch. I liked on the 40th anniversary Steve Martin goes in full King Tutt outfit for three
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lines in a song or whatever cuz he's committed and it's fun. I love it and
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everyone's there to have fun. >> And it's also like 70 million people are
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watching that one. >> It's all different. Yeah, you're right. >> Everybody's Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, the
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receptionist I mean it's it was so exciting to see a new person kill too. Like that's one of the great things on
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the show when that happens. like uh that guy James when he did Trump for the first time this year.
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>> Yeah, he was great. >> It was like thrilling, you know. >> Oh, it was amazing. Yeah.
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>> And when audience finds it cuz I had been sort of kicking around the show for
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a while and that was a hard one to to get on. I think it took a few swings. >> Oh, the receptionist.
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>> Yeah. And then it got on with MC Hammer at 5 to one >> and then the next time it got on first
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sketch. So that with Ros. Yeah. With Rosanne. There's really there's only
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like three. So that's the one you remember. It's like bye-bye. There's
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there's only two of them, but you know, if they remember what they remember, you
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know. >> Yeah. Church lady was on more than 20 times the first season. >> More than they had shows. Were you on
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twice? >> An early chat and then they I do a good night chat after Jack >> DY show. We tried to sneak the church
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lady into commercial shows. Remember that? >> Oh yeah. >> For real. We did that. We were like, can
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we superimpose the church lady or George Bush over a commercial? Were you allowed
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to use that stuff on on Dana Carvey show? >> I technically because of my contract
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when I came in. I owned the church slave. >> It was very different back then. you
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could like write you could write a list of the characters that you created before going to Saturday Night Live and
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Dana had a long list >> and so yeah nowadays it's the complete opposite like they own everything and
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then you have like after seven years you have to do movies with the I don't know
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>> just do a mandatory >> I know then you do movies you go back to the show it is different you do
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commercials and movies and you miss shows and you go back to the show it's pretty cool for the cast I think
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>> yeah it's really Yeah. And now that's true now. Yeah. Leading up to this 50th,
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they're all they're all they all come and go. >> They they told me to told me, my manager
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said, "Write on the flight out there, write all your characters and give them
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to Jim Henry." And I'm sitting there with a blank piece of paper on them.
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Delta going, "I don't what characters? What are you [ __ ] talking about? I'm
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a standup." So I'd go, "Skateboard crazy guy talks with the lisp." You know, I'm
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just like making up something in case I write it one day or in case it sounds like a sketch I do and it clicks.
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anything like yeah you need a man or thing but Robert do you want to talk about some of our hits
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>> your big hits >> me and you well you know together yeah >> yeah well I mean I Dana so I was there
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for a year >> before Dana >> and then I got in in ' 86 with Phil and
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J6 and he was like someone I had I connected with what I loved about Dana was that he spade you'll understand this
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like generally like passive aggressive behavior rules at that show. Like who? I'm good. I could possib No, my sketch
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is terrible. Don't put my sketch on. >> It couldn't possibly me. I'm I I'm being
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paid. Like that's what And then there's people like Love it who are like,
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"What's going on?" >> They're anti-semitic. That's why this
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sketch didn't make it. >> You know why they cut it? Because it's funny. That's it. It was too good that
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it was too funny. That's why they didn't put it on. Yeah, I was John was great.
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>> I was sadly a little closer to John. I was like, "Robert, you have no poker
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face." Lauren, I remember him telling me. >> There were people like me. I didn't
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really make big stinks, though. But I was, you know, imitating Lauren behind his back like everybody eventually. Now
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everybody I'm told I'm told you go to the show now, everybody does Lauren.
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>> Literally literally everyone >> they all You've seen this? Have you
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witnessed this? >> Well, >> that's what I heard. >> James Austin Johnson had a good one. You
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know, Bill Hater, of course. Any reason. >> No, but I think people they say that
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people just do it around the office. >> Oh, just around you to each other.
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>> Uh read through is going to start everyone get to their seat, you know,
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and that's like a first, right? But what I loved about Dana was that he had he
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just came in. He had a list of impressions that he like handed out to the writers. Like he wasn't
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>> he didn't pretend that he was above doing that >> which was like so refreshing to actually
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admit that you care >> without being like cutthroat or anything. He was just being
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straightforward. >> I just thought it made sense. I I was able to do a bunch of voices. I thought,
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well, let the writers know cuz I realize you guys are just writing sketches and if someone sees Casey Kasem or
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something, maybe they put him in. I don't know. >> Of course, that's the best way to do it.
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Here you go. Here you go, Jack. Handy. Here you go, Odenkirk. >> Robert, you approached me with was Robin
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Leech doing some kind of Japanese pruning or >> I don't know why. >> I don't remember.
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>> Yeah, cuz you'd seen his name on the list, but I had a catchphrase for that
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one. I'm Robert Leech. I'm yelling and I don't know why. Right. >> So I had
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>> I loved Robin Lee, but then it was Robin Lee for everyone under 70. >> But Robin Lee was such a lifestyle of
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rich and famous. >> Another one of a celebrity that is no longer with us. One of my impressions,
00:22:58
you know, Dino Stapanopoulos, who our listeners might know. Every time someone I do an impression of passes away, he
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texts me. Another one, another one down. Whether it's Regis or Bush, you know,
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>> you're going to kill in heaven, Dana, someday. >> Yeah. I didn't know Dino did that.
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>> I thought Robin Leech was so hilarious and he had a great hook for it. I don't
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know why. >> Oh, no. Everything Dana I thought Dana's Travolta was hysterical because it was
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so it was so not what Travolta sounded like in the 80s anymore. >> It's just like he's basically doing an
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exaggerated welcome back Cotter. >> Welcome back Cotter for everyone >> listen to that. If you want to do a John
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Travolta, just say the word weird. Is slack so weird. >> Slack weird entry to that. But
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>> slack, but also slack. So >> what's that? What's that? >> Well, it's like Dana would say slack so
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weird. >> Slack slack so weird. You know, everybody should do whatever. >> We very much connected because we liked
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and doing we liked doing impressions that were kind of abstract. We like creating abstract impressions. And so,
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you know, Dana had some under his belt obviously and then I tried to help him with, you know, Johnny Carson and Regis.
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The Regis thing was very strange cuz like I wrote it for Phil Hartman. I wrote it for Phil Hartman and it went
00:24:25
to dress >> and it didn't do great. And then Dana in his gentlest non-cutthroat way just
00:24:32
happened upon me like a week later and was like, >> you know, I'm Regis is kind of small and
00:24:38
Irish and like I had just had a total blank. I had just picked Phil because he was the oldest cast member.
00:24:44
>> Yeah. >> And I thought of I thought of him as just okay, he's the old guy
00:24:48
comparatively. But Dana was absolutely right. He looked more like Regis and then he started doing him and
00:24:54
>> well I I didn't realize when I started watching him in New York he had
00:24:58
essentially just just got on nationally but we would get up around 9 Paul and I and we would watch it and we just fell
00:25:04
in love with him. >> Oh yeah shining guy in the world >> and then getting to know you. Yeah. Just
00:25:10
hanging out in your office and we started you know bouncing off. Are you ready for this? This guy's crazy. You
00:25:15
got all the I think one of your things very Robert Smeiggel or something about you know I'm down at the Shriders and
00:25:20
I'm behind Broka I can I can't get a seat you know. So we we bonded all >> there was that thing of like the
00:25:26
explosion. This was something that he really did on the show and THEN BROKA'S
00:25:31
GOT THE FRONT ROW SEAT AND I'M SITTING WITH YOU KNOW PATRICK SEES IN THE IN THE
00:25:35
BACK. ANYWAY, it was a great event >> and he takes a sip of his coffee. Anyway, it was terrific. It's like he's
00:25:42
got nothing else. So, he just goes to >> Joy was there. Joy. >> Anyway, we wish them well. Oh, yeah.
00:25:47
When Joy hosted that was always uh Regis was uh >> But you can't let Dana around an
00:25:53
impression. He comes circling. It's like all right, just give it to him. He's
00:25:56
going to figure it out. >> So, and then his when he wrote his book, they said we want to call it I'm out of
00:26:01
control. And he had to go out, you know, all said I'm out of control. >> That was something that made up Dana
00:26:07
Gardi made up, but I don't understand Garnney. But um the you know one so we
00:26:13
had you know and then Carson came around um yeah and just I started playing around with it.
00:26:19
>> I think the Turners actually had written the Carson sketch. >> Did they?
00:26:24
>> And I looked at it. You showed it to me and I had just a couple of moves in my
00:26:28
head and then it sort of brought out some moves that you had. >> Like the thing that
00:26:35
I love Johnny Carson so much. He was like he was incredible voice >> in the 70s when I was a teenager growing
00:26:40
up um I used to watch him constantly and >> um he was so charismatic and he's still
00:26:46
the greatest ever but there was then Letterman came on >> in like the early 80s and immediately
00:26:55
>> got some you know >> the ant show or whatever you want to call that. Well, he was like reinventing
00:27:00
everything and then Johnny for no good reason started feeling insecure about it. You could see it on the show because
00:27:07
he started trying to do things that Letterman was doing, but he didn't know how to do it
00:27:12
>> the way Letterman did. Letterman would just let them happen. >> Johnny would be like, "We're about to do
00:27:18
something that's a little weird. >> This is a little different. This is not
00:27:23
not the norm." >> That's right. You know, we're going to walk over. We're gonna take a camera and
00:27:29
it's gonna follow me. I can't do them as well as you, Dana, but it was like your
00:27:34
jaw. >> I'm gonna Yeah. Clench your jaw. Thank you. >> Camera is going to follow me and it's
00:27:40
going to walk out of the studio and I'm going to go to another set. It's like,
00:27:46
okay, we >> ask unusual questions to people. >> Unusual questions that people are not
00:27:51
going to know is even they don't know what's going to happen. All right, so
00:27:55
let's start doing it. Now, I'm walking. See, I'm walking across and it was
00:27:59
>> this is a bit you were witnessing a bit. >> It's a little weird. And so I was giving
00:28:04
him this a little weird had this expression. He had a couple of things like when Johnny
00:28:09
>> like calls people over to the comedians like funny stuff. Funny stuff. >> That was funny stuff. And then you had
00:28:16
weird wild that >> weird wild stuff. And for those of you at home, you're watching a thing called
00:28:20
a television. You know how you would bring? >> So then it became that where we just did
00:28:24
the overly setup >> Johnny Carson thing and then it was so dry. It was maybe the driest thing you
00:28:31
ever did on the show, Dana. And then but it always Ed McMahon's Ed McMahon's rhythmically kind of uh
00:28:39
>> Yes. >> acknowledging it and um you know giving it like just like yes, you were correct
00:28:45
sir would always make it work. was like the fact that you would say these strange things and then Ed would kind of
00:28:52
affirm them. >> Yeah. He was the release button cuz but that was the first time and I've said
00:28:57
this before but when I was on SNL and wasn't concerned with the laughs I just
00:29:02
was having so much fun being Johnny and when I got the wig on I am Irish Carson Carvey my eyes are a little close
00:29:08
together and I I god I kind of look like him you know and then I could just look
00:29:13
in the mirror and just uh just get into that attitude of being just this whatever that
00:29:18
>> you going to hair and makeup too it's just that >> really sets you up and um then the the
00:29:23
third rail of the ones that really had a lot of episodes. Carson did Carcinio. We
00:29:28
could talk about that, too. Regis had a lot of >> love to talk about Carinio anyway.
00:29:32
>> Well, Carcinho, let's let's do that now. >> That was the extension of the Carson
00:29:36
impression. We did this >> we did one before that that actually did piss Johnny off and and then they
00:29:43
>> I don't know I don't know if they asked you to do that late night history show
00:29:47
but they asked me so I did it and I talked about it >> and then they edit it to make it look
00:29:51
like >> we didn't really give a [ __ ] how Johnny >> felt >> responded to it and we did we were
00:29:57
really upset about it like we did this sketch where our so Chris Rock gets hired in like
00:30:05
1990 and um >> plays our senior hall. >> Yeah. Which he didn't do like I remember
00:30:12
I that's another guy I got to see audition and he was hysterical and like obviously
00:30:18
you know incredible obvious hire but I remember asking Lauren does it matter he doesn't seem to be an impressionist.
00:30:25
He'll do areno. It was that. >> Don't worry about uh Chris. >> He's got the hair and he he can do our
00:30:33
sineo. Just remember it's like black guys on the show always have the burden of having to do like every black
00:30:41
person. >> Yes, we talked about that with Chris. Yeah. >> Oh, you did a
00:30:45
>> little bit. I think David brought it up. >> Yeah, it is tough because everything
00:30:49
just gets assigned and no matter, you know, if it's even closed. Okay, Chris,
00:30:53
you're doing Al Roker this week. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. Joe is diverse now.
00:30:58
>> Bit played an Asian character. I played Tony Montana as like a Cuban character.
00:31:04
You know, I had a bigger >> I wonder if you could write that, Robert. Um, today is like, can you write
00:31:10
anyone to play anything but they are what they are? I don't know how they do
00:31:14
it there. I wonder if they have meetings and go, could I play this or >> Oh, at SNL.
00:31:19
>> Yeah, at SNL. >> Well, they definitely let women play >> men.
00:31:22
>> Men? >> Yeah, >> they still let that happen. No, I know. It's it's it's it's interesting because
00:31:28
like even like something like I mean I totally blackface thing is obviously a red flag and it's oddly it's something
00:31:38
we didn't do in our era and never found it happening in the '9s. >> Yeah.
00:31:42
>> The '9s were a strange time where it seemed like the floodgates opened and
00:31:46
people were doing >> exceptionally rude stuff. I don't know if it's because cable was starting and
00:31:52
the networks felt the need to compete, >> but >> you try too hard and you go in different
00:31:57
directions that are sometimes wrong directions. You just don't know and then
00:32:01
>> Yeah. >> it levels out. Yeah. >> But like I just did this puppet show
00:32:06
that uh failed whatever. like and and we had this guy who we was going to do Obama
00:32:12
>> and he had done Obama on the Conan show for like three or four years and he just
00:32:17
sounded exactly like Obama. >> So I wanted to hire him and then I found out that he was white. I didn't realize
00:32:24
I had no idea. I just knew he sounded exactly like Obama >> and they said you can't hire him.
00:32:30
>> Do they ever call you now smile to uh write or help or come off the bench and
00:32:34
uh >> No, I I was there when Adam No, they never called me. They don't
00:32:40
>> they um >> although I actually sent Colin Jo an idea this week and didn't didn't hear
00:32:45
back. >> Didn't hear back. >> It was an on a winour idea. >> I thought
00:32:51
>> Don't don't try to give him Iraqi Pete. That's Adams. >> Actually, you would be great for this on
00:32:56
a win idea. >> Is that me playing him or Dana? >> No, I'm talking about Spade. It's It's a
00:33:02
very >> Hey, it's a very >> You could own that. Spade playing Anna
00:33:06
Winter. The idea was um that she uh it was like an update feature where Anna Winour is uh sitting next to somebody
00:33:16
like uh who's the guy? Jared Leto. He's always wearing something insane.
00:33:21
>> They just had the Met Gala. >> Yeah. Yeah. Jared Leto. Yeah. He's got
00:33:25
great, >> you know. And then it was just going to be on a win tour very quietly and dryly
00:33:29
and very stiff. uh insulting, you know, um Michael Chase outfit, Michael Chase suit, you know, like uh is this a
00:33:39
fundraiser for victims of fashion? And then like um you know, and then she turns to Colin Joes like,
00:33:48
you know, is that a suit or are you being humped by a couch? And then she starts getting rim shots and just starts
00:33:56
walking into the crowd and starts doing >> walking around. >> Yeah. walking around the eight. She
00:34:01
stands up and starts just doing crowd work, but she's she's completely stiff,
00:34:06
you know, and it's just if that tie was any louder, Marley Matlin could hear it.
00:34:14
>> Looks like Joseph A. Bank made it tonight. >> What if Triumph was at the Met Galler?
00:34:20
>> Yeah. What would he do? Crazy. >> Actually, I've tried to I've wanted to
00:34:24
do the red carpet. >> That's perfect. That's one of the few things I've
00:34:28
>> I still want to do as triumph. >> Please don't let triumph own Kim K.
00:34:35
>> Well, >> she lost the >> Now I have like these personal relationships that I care about. Like I
00:34:40
would never touch her because Pete Davidson's a friend. >> Oh, friend of the show.
00:34:46
>> No, I He's a great guy. I know him. And but like Dana, this is something
00:34:51
>> Well, we never talked about the Carson thing, but this is another one that All
00:34:54
right. I don't know if you want to talk about this, but >> I'll talk about anything.
00:34:58
>> We're 30 or I'm 30 or 32 or whatever you were >> and Dennis gets bounced from his
00:35:05
syndicated show >> and I have this idea to do Dennis is now doing a cooking show,
00:35:11
>> right? Which we we called Dennis and he said [ __ ] go ahead. Right. >> You did call him.
00:35:16
>> I thought that I did. >> Maybe you called him. I didn't call him.
00:35:19
>> Yeah, I believe I called him. Yeah, >> I don't think we But that was like then
00:35:25
>> and I and I thought in my head I was like this is my duty as a Saturday Night
00:35:29
Live sketch writer. I can't play favorites, >> you know? >> I I this is my privilege to work.
00:35:34
>> Duty comes first. >> Yeah. That's how I seriously I took it. And now to show I would say by like the
00:35:40
time I was 40 I was like no I would never do that again. >> Yeah. Well, I don't think at that point
00:35:46
there was any sort of uh idea that Dennis wasn't on his way with a career. Like he'd done the black and white
00:35:53
special. He had the talk show, you know, Dennis I mean all he did after that was
00:35:58
host an HBO show that got like 20. >> Exactly. So to me to me I thought it was
00:36:03
so funny and the way you wrote it Dennis's vernacular >> in a in a daytime cooking show. I don't
00:36:09
know if you could quote some of that. I mean, maybe it maybe you're right, but I
00:36:12
feel like I still wouldn't do it now. I wouldn't be able to I'd be too nervous
00:36:16
about >> whoever's feelings it was. >> I I understand that. I I feel the same
00:36:22
way. I I like I kind of sometimes feel bad for Biden when I see him sort of lost or whatever. And so, it's different
00:36:29
doing it now. It's weird when you get older and life kind of kicks you on the
00:36:33
nuts and and you learn what pain is and uh >> Yeah. >> Well, you know how careers are so hard
00:36:40
and up and down, you're like, I'm going to probably hurt someone's career
00:36:42
somehow accidentally. >> You know who would >> Biden's hair looks like a spiderweb. Go
00:36:47
ahead. >> The one person who would always scold me when I was even when I was younger, and
00:36:51
I guess it's because he was sensitive to all the bad reviews he was getting was
00:36:56
Sandler. He was like like I was doing those cartoons and they were going really well.
00:37:01
>> Yeah. Yeah. >> You know, and I would do a cartoon about like David Brener or something. Yes.
00:37:06
>> Being a guest on a talk show and it was fun with real audio. And I would use a
00:37:10
real David Brener story, but I would have him going on every talk show and each host would get bored and press a
00:37:16
trapoor button and he would fall down and go like, you know, so he starts on like the Tonight Show and then trap door
00:37:23
goes down to Conan and then it goes down to like Tom Snider and then >> hilarious.
00:37:28
>> I remember that one. Yeah. >> Yeah. And it was really funny and everybody I played it for Conan because
00:37:34
Conan was in it and he was laughing really hard and then I get a call from Stanley. You feel good about yourself,
00:37:39
bud? You feel good about that? >> No. >> That guy that What if that guy's home
00:37:43
watching? You know, he's like had a hard day and he's watching the show and he's
00:37:46
like, >> "Yeah, >> what is this? Why? What did I do?" >> Yeah. Why?
00:37:51
>> He did Brener, didn't he? Sandler could do Brener on the show. >> He did a great David Brener.
00:37:55
>> That's right. >> But it wasn't nearly as mean as this cartoon.
00:37:59
>> No, it wasn't mean. It wasn't. >> Remember the one you did where you had
00:38:02
you had Steman hiding from Oprah in the mansion? >> Oh my god. That was that was from the
00:38:07
Comedy Central show. And it's interesting you bring that up because that was a cartoon I wasn't going to do.
00:38:14
It was one of those lines that I would draw for myself which people are always shocked. You had
00:38:20
>> lines. I did. But I I I like I didn't like to make fun of drug addiction.
00:38:25
>> I I always felt like when people are, you know, that desperate. >> It's not funny. you know, it's it's
00:38:32
like, you know, everybody >> it's easy to to reduce somebody to a cartoon character,
00:38:38
>> but I that was one and another one was women's looks. I really hated
00:38:44
>> making fun of a woman for her looks because women are held up to these ridiculous standards and uh it just felt
00:38:52
shitty. And so this Oprah one was Andy Breman's premise. And it the premise was
00:38:57
that Steedman uh every time Oprah wants to have sex. Steedman has convinced Oprah that he's
00:39:04
an international spy. And every time Oprah wants to have sex, Steman pretends he's getting an alert
00:39:13
and he has to go off. I'm not making it sound as funny as it was funny and so I
00:39:18
like it. I broke the rule because it was just too funny. And it it remains like one of the funniest cartoons I've ever
00:39:26
been involved in. And uh but it was Andy Breckman's idea. Also one of the nicest
00:39:32
people I've ever worked with, >> Andy Breman. And yet he had this idea
00:39:36
that I thought was too neat. >> Ask him about the bears. The bears the big one. I love it.
00:39:47
I just want to say very quickly that I know that John McGlaclin, which you completely created,
00:39:53
>> loved loved our sketch. >> Oh yeah, >> Regis loved it. Perau loved it. George
00:39:59
Bush Senior loved it. It was only sweet. Johnny Carson got a little tweaked and I
00:40:05
don't >> Carson, we should talk about this one cuz it was like uh So yes, so Rock comes
00:40:10
on. I got I'm sorry. Cario comes on and plays Arcio. >> Rob comes on and plays Arsenio. And this
00:40:17
was at this time when Johnny >> was getting sort of threatened by Arsenio's presence. Arcenio was white
00:40:23
hot. >> That's a bad choice of words I suppose, but Arenio was like >> on fire. Everybody was talking about him
00:40:32
and we did that thing of like now I understand that this you know that would overexlaining thing but in this case it
00:40:37
was like >> I understand you have a show >> Dana you should do it. you remember.
00:40:42
>> I understand you have a show and um it's um >> and it says here he was like looking at
00:40:48
his notes. It says here that your show is up against my show. >> Yes. And it says here I did not know
00:40:56
that and your ratings have actually gone up higher than my mine starting to decline.
00:41:02
>> Right. It's weird. Weird. >> I did not know that. And now it says
00:41:06
here, it says further that your show is considered hip and mine I am starting to be considered
00:41:12
out of touch. >> Yeah. >> I did not. Did you know that? >> Yes.
00:41:18
>> A really sad yes. >> Yes. >> But but the thing that Johnny got
00:41:23
maddest at, Dana, do you remember this? It was the first guest. We had a throwaway first guest
00:41:29
before we bring on our cine. >> Susan Day, right? It was Susan Day and I had written it for Chenade O' Conor for
00:41:37
Jan Hooks to play Chenade >> because she had already done it and it was hilarious and um she's very serious
00:41:43
and you know you guys are just would be doing >> not a not a lot of hair on her head.
00:41:49
That is that is that is quite a dome you know all that kind of stuff. >> A little smooth on the upper turf.
00:41:56
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Not a hairy woman sir. >> From ear to ear not a lot going on.
00:42:02
Lauren was like, uh, you know, she's done Chenade, she does a killer Susan Day, which she had done once on the
00:42:08
show, and it was killer. >> So Lauren suggested, >> Lauren suggested, and it wasn't like it
00:42:14
wasn't funny. He suggested, what if he has Susan Day on, but he keeps wanting
00:42:18
to talk about the Partridge family >> and it had been years since it'd gone
00:42:22
off. Yeah. >> Yes. And so that was how we wrote it. And then Johnny took it
00:42:28
as like, are you seeing this, Ed? He really, he said this on the show. They're saying I'm scenile.
00:42:34
>> Mhm. >> He literally thought we were now calling him scenile >> all because we had changed that opening.
00:42:41
>> That was the one that I thought was Yeah. Yeah. He said it on He said it as
00:42:46
Dana or he >> No. Johnny said it on his own show. He started >> Wow. Wow.
00:42:51
>> bitching >> about Saturday Night Live on his own show. And Dana, I heard you say this to Regis and it
00:42:59
broke my heart because I had never heard this. You said to Regis in an interview
00:43:03
like I don't know five, six years ago. I saw >> you said that you heard that Johnny said
00:43:11
when they start making fun of you, it's time to go away. >> Well, he would say it over at in Burbank
00:43:19
in the hallway, the big giant studio, and just yell it out. They're making fun
00:43:23
of me now. It's time to go. Yeah, that that that >> but what what I realize and I would take
00:43:29
it for anyone in show business that eventually >> you become a characture of yourself if
00:43:36
you're a comedian. It doesn't matter. You I don't want to name the person. You
00:43:40
could see someone and kind of go is that a celebrity impersonator or is that the
00:43:44
real guy? So you do become a caricature of yourself. It's kind of flattering.
00:43:48
But you know for Johnny I couldn't get on the show after that. body from SNL did for a year
00:43:55
>> and he really took it took it to heart and so then >> it was heartbreaking for us but then
00:44:01
>> then I think I also heard from you back then. So then we did the Carinio
00:44:07
sketch which was basically Johnny >> as trying to be like Arcenio. >> Trying to be like Arsenio Hall and it
00:44:13
was a big hit sketch. He had the pointy hair and had elongated fingers. >> Yeah.
00:44:18
>> And he would do you see this head? All you have to do is go whoop whoop whoop
00:44:22
and the audience goes whoop whoop whoop. >> Do you know that a house is called a
00:44:26
crib? Ed, did you know that? >> I did not know that. Yeah. Yeah. >> You know, Robert, I did Carson two
00:44:33
months before he quit as standup. >> Oh wow. >> And he came back to the back and he
00:44:39
goes, "Who hates Dana Carvey?" I go, "I do." And he goes, "That's my boy."
00:44:43
>> Really? >> No, he No, he didn't. He came back and said hi to me. But I remember it was
00:44:46
very hard to get on the show. I did do it two months before he got off. And he did come back, but he came back.
00:44:53
>> And you were on Saturday Night Live. You broke the code. >> No, I I was I on I went off in 93, I
00:44:59
believe. >> You were absolutely on the show, Dave. >> Yeah. Okay. Okay. For sure.
00:45:03
>> But let me just say this real quick. Carvey told me that that he liked the
00:45:09
Carcinio sketch, but he said, "What do you say? It makes fun of both of us."
00:45:13
>> You know, they're making fun of Arseno as much as they're making fun of me. I
00:45:16
mean that that that's funny stuff, you know, that kind of thing. >> So So I remember feeling a lot better
00:45:21
about And then and then he did start letting people on the show again. >> No.
00:45:27
>> I mean I I was saying I got on somehow and uh >> I don't know just did my crummy act and
00:45:32
got out of there. But uh he he did he waved me over Mike. I say that >> and I left. I didn't go.
00:45:40
>> You gave him the finger. >> Well the guy backstage Macaulay said he
00:45:45
goes get on there. hit your mark and get off. And I go, "What if Johnny waves you
00:45:49
over?" And he goes, "He won't. Just go do it." And I go, "Oh my god."
00:45:52
>> So I went out and turned and left and he goes, "There he is." And
00:45:57
come over. He goes, >> he goes, "Martin Short was with him." And he goes, "Have him come over." And
00:46:01
he goes, "I'm trying to, but he won't look at me." And he goes, "He's too
00:46:04
nervous." All right. There he goes. All right. Well, that was David Spade. >> He said that on the air.
00:46:08
>> Yeah. >> That's amazing. >> And then he came backstage.
00:46:11
>> Where were you? Uh, and I went, "What the [ __ ] were you me there with egg?"
00:46:15
>> I had my shirt off. >> You made a [ __ ] fool. >> Yeah. And it was a bo [ __ ] torrential
00:46:21
storm back in my room cuz I was so scared. I have my shirt off and I have Pepto-Bismol. And they knock and I open
00:46:26
and it's it's Ed, I think, Doc and Johnny. And he goes, "Uh, >> all three of you.
00:46:31
>> I didn't." Yeah. He goes, "I didn't." He goes, "I didn't get a chance to say good
00:46:36
job. I wanted I come over and nice job." And I go, "Oh, I didn't even see you or
00:46:40
whatever." And he goes, "Pepto-Bismol, I'm trying to quit the stuff myself."
00:46:45
And then he walked away. Isn't that great? It's terrible. >> That's a fantastic story.
00:46:49
>> He did a bit. >> He did a bit, but in in reality, he was um he was broken inside and he he went
00:46:57
around the office and says, "When they start not not coming over to the couch,
00:47:02
it's time to >> Who put you up to this?" Dana Carvey that [ __ ] >> So, it's you, Spain.
00:47:09
>> Yeah. You're the one who pushed him out. >> Let's go. Let's go. Ed. Ed, let's go
00:47:14
back and find him. John, come on. LET'S GO. >> I'LL HIT HIM HIGH. YOU hit him low.
00:47:19
>> Hit him. >> Well, talk about McLaclin, too, because we Well, that was a great McLaclin
00:47:24
group. >> John McLaclin ran a round table. >> Well, we got to everyone know you did
00:47:30
Mclaclin. You did the Bears. So many. You did Clucky [ __ ] Gaga. >> Hey, what did you help me with the
00:47:38
Clucky or or Schmidz gay? You helped me with one of those two. >> I was almost in Schmidz for a rough
00:47:43
draft and then it went to Sandler and >> Farley. It went to far that was that was
00:47:46
Downy's idea and it was a brilliant call to take the two youngest guys in the
00:47:51
cast and make them the guys. That was that was >> What was I was I older than them?
00:47:56
>> I originally I had it as Dana and Kevin because I thought it this is going to be
00:47:59
the first sketch of the year >> and Dana and Kevin are the guys and then I don't remember a draft with you. No,
00:48:06
someone maybe Shoemaker or someone said, "I think you're in this."
00:48:09
>> Remind me what this sketch is. Gay. >> Oh. Oh. Oh. Schmidz Gay. That was a
00:48:14
became a film, didn't it? >> That was a big one. Yeah. Yeah. >> No. You think it was the ambiguously gay
00:48:18
duo? >> No. I was thinking commercial. >> Sandler and Farley did something by a
00:48:23
pool. >> Yeah. With Van Hal. >> It was a parody of all those uh >> So that that was,
00:48:28
>> you know, sexist beer commercials. It's one of the ones I'm most proud of.
00:48:34
hysterical, but that ended up being >> also like that the gay people weren't
00:48:38
like portrayed in any kind of like mocking way, right? >> The whole joke was turning the tables on
00:48:45
these objectifying these ridiculous commercials that associate beer with objectifying women.
00:48:52
>> And it just got this huge It got one of the biggest responses. >> So great Halen song in it. Oh yeah.
00:49:00
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. and Farley and Sandler doing the conga line. Yeah, it was
00:49:05
amazing. >> But um but Spade, I thought you either helped me with that or cluck and
00:49:09
chicken, which is my personal favorite. >> Oh, cluck and chicken. I don't know. I
00:49:12
mean, sometimes I just get in there and try to help anywhere. >> I think you threw in I think you threw
00:49:16
me some jokes in there. >> Maybe I threw you gaga gagi. >> That sounded like me. The gag
00:49:24
me. >> Oh, I love uh uh Sandler's voice. And that was so funny. That was a cartoon.
00:49:30
That was half cartoon commercial parody. >> Yeah, cartoon. Yeah, cartoon super.
00:49:35
That's how I met the guy JJ Settlemeer who ended up doing um the first few years of fun TV funhouse
00:49:42
>> cartoon V5 house. Welcome back to my show. You But you put Lauren's voice in
00:49:47
there. Did anyone say anything? >> That's maybe the hardest I've ever
00:49:51
laughed in my life because I became a 10-year-old again. Like the way I would when I was 10, I would draw cartoons of
00:49:58
my teachers, that kind of thing. >> Yeah. >> And when a teacher would see, I would
00:50:03
like giggle like and I remember the first time >> you saw the dress rehearsal that the
00:50:10
ambiguously gay duo ran and and then this little cartoon Lauren comes out and chases the dog. Lego my show. LEGO MY
00:50:19
SHOW. AND I'M WATCHING Lauren watch it. >> Oh my god. >> And I'm just in tears. I was like, you
00:50:26
know, Lauren would call it, you put a beanie on the boss. >> You put a >> What is that? Just make fun of the boss
00:50:34
or a beanie on the boss. >> It's like it's like reducing the boss to
00:50:37
a, you know, lower status. It's like he, you know, Lauren had a term for every
00:50:42
comedy move in the world. >> Totally. >> I've seen every sketch four times, you
00:50:47
know, so it's hard for me. Everything you've anyone's written, I've seen a
00:50:51
version of it in my >> One of my favorite recent Lauren ones within the last 5 years around funny
00:50:57
people, people that do comedy. There's only 900 of us on the planet. >> Oh, really?
00:51:04
>> Yeah. It's a specific number like Well, maybe that's true. I don't know.
00:51:08
>> We did run some numbers. >> He's down to 898. >> Yes. If you don't count Steve and Marty,
00:51:15
>> Steve counts for three. Marty, he counts for a hundred. >> I think uh Robert asked that good.
00:51:21
>> Didn't we ask William Shatner if he was okay with that sketch you wrote? I think
00:51:26
he was right. >> Oh, yeah. I pitched it to him >> and he like sketch.
00:51:30
>> Yeah, that was a big famous sketch that you wrote. Still resonates all the time.
00:51:34
>> That's a big big one. >> Well, I have an affinity for nerds because I was an SNL nerd. I was big a
00:51:40
nerd as anybody. I was completely in awe of the show when I got there. I like knew who Edie Baskin and Leo Yoshimura
00:51:49
were. Like I memorized them. That's how pathetically nerdy I was. >> So yeah, like you know, a lot of my most
00:51:57
famous stuff has to do with like Triumph and the Star Wars line >> is one of my happiest memories because I
00:52:04
was like making fun of them, but I felt an affinity toward them at the same time. The the nerds waiting online for
00:52:11
Star Wars and Triumphs. Uh they were all like they all took it so well. They were
00:52:18
all just comedy fans. It was like uh >> Yeah. It was like when it was like Have
00:52:23
you guys did you guys I'm sure you spayed espec you both probably got to meet Don Rickles, right?
00:52:28
>> Yeah, I did. Yep. >> Did he insult you when he met you the first time?
00:52:32
>> Do do an impression of a gorilla is what he said to me. >> Oh, really? Yeah. you know, uh, Smag's
00:52:39
on, um, one time, uh, Chris Farley took his mom to see him on one of the breaks on the weeks off and he goes and he
00:52:45
goes, I go, "What happened?" He goes, "We sat right in the front row." And,
00:52:49
uh, he goes, Rickles comes over to him in the middle and goes, "What's your
00:52:54
name, Tiny?" >> And he goes, "Uh, he goes, my name's Chris." And he goes, "How much you
00:53:00
weigh, Chris?" And he goes, "About 260." He goes, "Hm, the left side of your ass,
00:53:04
maybe. And then he went to the next table. >> Yeah. Then he just >> So he knew that it was Chris, right?
00:53:11
>> I don't know. I don't know. It's just all funny. >> So funny. He's just like, I'm just going
00:53:15
to treat him like anybody else. >> Yeah. He just goes, "There's a fat guy
00:53:18
in the front, sir. Maybe go for him." >> Yeah. >> He has a little bug in his ear when he
00:53:23
got older. Fat guy. Three. Three >> lady wearing a flower box hat. >> Take four steps to the right. Fat guy
00:53:30
alert. >> Closer. That's him. That's him. >> Get him. I took it as a badge of honor. I love
00:53:39
being ripped by >> Oh, yeah. When when I met him, I was a producer at the Conan show, I think. Or
00:53:43
no, I was doing Triumph, >> I think. >> And I did it for for Rickles, but but I
00:53:49
met him first. They introduced me because they wanted to make it okay that it, you know, make sure he would be cool
00:53:55
with it. >> And he sees me and he just says, "Hello, Rabbi." Which I later heard was a move
00:54:02
he had for a lot of Seemetic. That was his move. >> Like John Stewart told me once that that
00:54:08
was the first thing he said to John Stewart when he >> I'm Yeah, he had his biggest just a good
00:54:13
safe offensive across the board thing to say. >> Yeah, you know, we've all got our
00:54:17
standard zingers >> going full full circle toward the end. >> You think Triumph never said the buzz
00:54:22
around flies around my ass before. You're sadly right. >> There's only so many mathematical ways
00:54:29
to get a ass joke. Okay, they can be flying around. But Regis told me once, this was to when when Rickles was still
00:54:37
on the road, you know, honest to God, some nights you don't know if he's going
00:54:40
to make it. They give him two eyeballs. He's rubbing his knees. Honest to God, I
00:54:44
don't know. When they play the music, he goes out and he kills him for an hour,
00:54:47
kid. Then he lies down. >> I like I like honest to God. >> Honest to God.
00:54:50
>> Honest to God, who's better than Robert Smeaggel? Honest to God, this guy, he's
00:54:55
everywhere. I mean, you know, it really is. >> He was really nice to me, too. I You
00:54:59
know, one time, this is insane. I had an idea for a sitcom and it's one of the happiest half hours of my whole
00:55:06
life. I got to sit in a hotel room and pitch Larry King and Regis Philin a sitcom where they played an old gay
00:55:13
couple and they took it dead serious like this is a great idea and they had already
00:55:20
like consulted Rickles about it and Larry King's like Rickles says we can do
00:55:25
it but we can't be too swishy swish and um you know we would just talk about
00:55:32
it and Regis the funniest was Regis he was like so Bob, again, I apologize for my inferior reges, but it's like,
00:55:39
>> so if we do this, you know, I know there's going to be a script, but not
00:55:43
not really, right? I mean, >> you know, we can get out there and Larry and I can just go off, right? Just play
00:55:49
off each other, right? Oh, there's a story to the, you know, it's a sitcom.
00:55:54
It's got to happen. Yeah, but Bob, I mean, yeah, Bob, >> learning lines and Yeah. I mean, we have
00:56:00
a natural thing, Bob. Uh, >> Rickles says, Rickles says we just have to look natural. I'm like, when did
00:56:07
Rickles become the oracle of Su everything by Rickles? >> Mr. CPO Sharky. >> CPO Sharky 1975. Yeah.
00:56:16
>> If if you have a copy of that treatment, can you send it to me and Dana?
00:56:19
>> Um, >> I don't think I ever bothered to write it. Somehow they said yes
00:56:23
>> to just meeting with me for a half an hour. One one one other thing >> that Smiggle has that's one of the
00:56:30
funniest titles is the autism benefit. The night of too many stars. >> It's the funniest thing.
00:56:36
>> Both of you have done. >> Of course. >> Thank you. One. Well, both of you have
00:56:39
done it. >> You um you've done it a couple of times. Dana, you did the first one and it was
00:56:46
one of the greatest bits that it's ever been on that. We've done like seven of
00:56:49
them. >> What was it? >> Well, Hal Wilner, rest his soul. >> Yes. music
00:56:54
>> was an incredibly great guy who uh was the music um >> supervisor
00:56:58
>> supervisor at Saturday Night Live and >> for 200 years >> for 200 years. He missed the first um
00:57:05
300 and he um he would help me book he knew everybody in music. >> Yeah. and he would help me book the show
00:57:15
with, you know, he we had a booker who would be paid and then Hal for free would get me, you know, he got me Elvis
00:57:22
Costello once, he got me Sting and this particular bit he got me Lou Reed and it
00:57:27
was like a surprise appearance. the people in Rosland. You remember we did this in Rosland and they were crazy.
00:57:33
>> And Lou Reed comes out and it's like Jimmy Fallon saying Lou Reed and he's
00:57:37
gonna have an all-star band >> and then one by one he introduces the all-star band and it's all comedians.
00:57:45
>> Mhm. >> It's on the drums Dana Carvey on the guitar. Con O'Brien
00:57:50
>> I think Sandler was there too. >> Jack Black, Adam Sandler, and Lou Reed
00:57:54
played it perfectly like this is the all-star band. And and then they did this incredibly
00:58:01
funny, somewhat disrespectful, but affectionate >> version of Walk on the Wild Side.
00:58:09
>> Oh, I love it. >> And it's on it's it's on YouTube and and
00:58:12
Sandler literally like is right in his face going Lou Reed got mad at me. It was very
00:58:26
awkward. I still remember it. >> Yeah. After the rehearsal, I didn't really have a monitor. I could hear it.
00:58:32
He used to go and take a walk on the wild side. So, he very seriously as everyone scattered just walked over to
00:58:37
me and just was intense Lou Reed and goes, don't do that. Don't do that.
00:58:41
>> Don't do what? >> Whatever he thought I was doing on the drums. I go, I'm a comedian and I can't
00:58:45
air myself. Don't play like that. You know, he just got very serious. Maybe it
00:58:49
was nerves. But then we came out later, he was totally affable. He was probably just that that was the only thing he
00:58:55
probably cared about was that it sounded good. >> Right. And I wanted I wanted to I wanted
00:58:59
to play well. I just that my monitor drummer and and and you did you did it sounds amazing.
00:59:04
>> Oh, that's good. I guess I got it on the air show. We just had a brief rehearsal.
00:59:08
>> Absolutely. It was kind of an incredible >> Adam's a great guitarist and Conan's a
00:59:14
good guitarist and and Jack Black's I mean these are like all the most musical. They just happened to all be
00:59:20
there >> and that song is brilliant but it is very very austere and very simple which
00:59:25
is you know take you know it's like >> it was perfect and everybody got a turn.
00:59:31
>> Mhm. >> Uh you didn't cuz you were the drummer but every all these other guys did solos
00:59:36
in their different ways >> right you know >> and um >> I learned a few things from Smiggle
00:59:40
today. I learned that Franken and Davis hired him. >> Franken and Davis hired me. That is
00:59:46
correct. His dad invented crest white strips. >> No, that's not true. >> Okay. I invented I I heard that he
00:59:53
>> tooth bonding. He he was the he developed the whole tooth bonding technique.
00:59:58
>> Right. And I and Lou Reed hates Dana Carvey. These are the only things I
01:00:01
picked up. Another one of my impressions has gone to the stars. I have insight insight onto this involves you. Someone
01:00:09
told me today. So Michael Gordon wants to go right for the the Conan show. He talks to Bob Bob Odenkirk
01:00:18
and Bob Odenkirk said, "Wait, wait till we get Smiggle as the headwriter."
01:00:24
And then somehow you got you became the head writer and then >> Oh, you're talking about the original
01:00:30
Conan Show. I thought you meant Michael Gordon wants to write for the new Conan.
01:00:33
>> Oh, sorry. This is always back in time when they But he said >> Michael Gordon knew Bob Odenkirk.
01:00:39
>> I think so. Or at least casually. Hey. A, that's so funny. >> Dana, so good. SO FUNNY.
01:00:46
>> OH MY GOD, that's so funny. Oh my god. No, you're not doing that, are you? No.
01:00:53
Was he mad about Chipos? Cuz there's a rumor down said I was really mad about
01:00:57
it and I wasn't. >> Yeah, that was something Downey read online. He read online that you It was
01:01:02
the most ridiculous lie imaginable that you like marched into Lauren's office.
01:01:06
>> I just like you people. You you you were like you'd been there for like four weeks.
01:01:13
>> Yeah. I go, you know what, Marcy would have >> talked to the last per you could have
01:01:17
been there for 5 years. You never would have pounded on Lauren's door. >> That was clearly made up. But there's a
01:01:23
comfortity around >> was that exploitive of Chris or not? People have their difference opinions.
01:01:29
when he did the Chip and Dale sketch with his shirt on. >> I thought that I thought the opposite
01:01:34
which was I mean I just have an inherent I thought the people were not laughing at Chris. I didn't see it that way. I
01:01:42
thought cuz there have been a million fat comedians who you know exploit their bodies in some way or another play off
01:01:50
being sure >> heavy >> Jackie. The thing that >> I saw that night was an audience fall in
01:01:57
love with Chris >> because he was so committed and he was such a good dancer
01:02:01
>> and he wasn't he acted like he wasn't remotely ashamed >> of his body. You know that whether
01:02:07
that's you know obviously not necessarily the truth but that's what he projected. Mhm.
01:02:13
>> And to me it was like if anything they didn't use the word empowering back then
01:02:18
but to me that's how it felt to me like you know the way somebody like Bridget
01:02:24
Everett where the person is >> you know completely unself-conscious about their body. At least it played that way
01:02:33
to me. But, you know, >> I would say this. I would say if you saw that in Chris, if you felt that that
01:02:41
that was happening to Chris, then maybe you should have talked to Chris about it
01:02:45
and made sure it was cool with Chris instead of just saying tutt. This is >> I didn't know a thing. I just saw a
01:02:52
young cast member. >> Yeah, I barely knew. >> I did not. Look, there's different
01:02:57
levels. This was young Chris. I saw a guy very athletic. I think anyone ne next to Patrick sees would look kind of
01:03:04
chubby. And so Chris was moving really like a chubby guy. Not like a next level.
01:03:10
>> He was not even that big back then. >> No. And I saw a guy killing with
01:03:15
physical comedy. But if he was sad about it inside, I I was clueless to it. >> I was clueless too if he was. But I mean
01:03:23
he when I saw him at Second City that summer, he was another person I had the privilege of seeing audition back then.
01:03:29
And he what struck me about him at Second City was how graceful he was. Like he was the opposite of how he falls
01:03:37
down >> who got who gained some weight. He's he's a he was an athlete.
01:03:40
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. and he was incredibly graceful and that's what separated him
01:03:45
>> besides you know his incredible characterizations like >> but you know so to me that's um the
01:03:53
sketch was the only thing it was exploiting was his incredible was what made him special
01:04:00
>> I would go by David's athleticism >> only because David was probably the
01:04:04
closest to I don't remember any >> I don't think David was the closest back
01:04:08
then though >> maybe not back then but after they did their movies and stuff. Well, right up
01:04:12
there. Right there. >> That's different. By then, Chris started to get like like, you know, in the
01:04:18
motivational speaker sketch, I remember adding I had one contribution to that sketch because Bob was no longer there,
01:04:24
oddly enough. >> Yes. >> Bob wrote the entire sketch and Spade, you know, I I added just that little
01:04:29
part at the end where he's like, "Matt's going to shade you. You're here. Matt's
01:04:34
here. You're You know that thing." And then he knocks Yeah. That's great.
01:04:38
>> And he knocks over the coffee table. Yeah. >> And that was like I just felt it needed
01:04:43
like a physical topper at the end. >> Yeah. A good >> So we put it in and it worked.
01:04:48
>> And then I feel though that it did lead to like the slippery slope of Farley
01:04:52
knocking things down. >> Oh, he's going through walls to the ceiling. >> Yeah, it started it started something
01:04:58
that I did not intend to h to happen. >> Well, they're kind of waiting for it
01:05:03
after that. Every sketch they're like, "What's he going to hit? What's he going
01:05:05
to fall through?" >> Well, certainly with the Matt Foley ones. Yeah. But it started happening in
01:05:09
other sketches too. >> He just walks in >> fatty falls down falls down. That's all
01:05:14
you got. Far >> I would call then then we started getting cynical about like Chris you
01:05:19
know we would just come up with different names for >> but that Nancy Carrian sketch he was a
01:05:24
great ice skater too. That's true. There you go. >> Yeah he could ice skate as well. Yeah.
01:05:31
So that canceled out Chippendale. So were you >> I just you know when people say it's
01:05:36
just very glib to like you know that sketch >> set him off that it's just so I just
01:05:43
find that irresponsible to >> well I never heard him complain about it in the years to come. So I I I think he
01:05:49
was just like if you're a young cast member >> and that and you get a sketch that's a
01:05:54
10 out of 10 and he took it and it blew him up. I don't think he ever looked
01:05:58
back and said, but I felt like >> no, so many other things got >> Did he ever take his shirt off again on
01:06:05
the show? I mean, he he fell around and stuff and walk through walls, but I don't remember. I'm
01:06:10
>> sure he did. >> It didn't become a thing. Let's get Chris's shirt off.
01:06:13
>> So, that's good, too. >> I mean, there was a lot of restraint
01:06:17
until >> like the later I think it was wasn't until his like third or fourth year. It
01:06:22
was like people were running out of what to do with him and >> and it became like a shorthand kind of
01:06:27
cheap move to >> have Farley break something, you know, but he was like, "Oh my god, Spade." Do
01:06:35
you remember his acting in that uh Tom Schiller? >> Oh, the coffee one. >> Yeah. Just the way his face changes when
01:06:43
he >> when he hears that they've switched folders. >> Great idea. That was a great idea. How
01:06:50
many takes does he get to trash the whole set? >> I know that was all Tom Schiller.
01:06:54
>> The Schiller vision of the Folders commercial was a real hit that is kind
01:06:58
of a and a gem that not everyone saw. >> I put it in the best of because of that.
01:07:04
>> Yeah. Great one. >> So that people would see it cuz it was it was one of his greatest acting jobs
01:07:10
ever. >> Yeah. They could look it up. All right, let's wrap. What? Anything
01:07:20
else for this guy, Dana? >> Let's see. Um, anything else for this guy? Your social security number? Just
01:07:26
for this is just uh housekeeping basics number. >> Stay on and do the paperwork. We're
01:07:31
going to jump off, but >> um um >> No, that's we covered literally
01:07:37
everything you've ever done. >> Well, we did a lot of SNL, but obviously
01:07:40
Robert and I did the Dana Carvey show and he go and biggestly gay. Funny that we didn't talk about the Dana Carvey
01:07:46
show. >> It's all right. It's a really We're Sarah at Life Focus, but that was uh
01:07:52
>> You'll do a whole podcast about that some, >> right? We have a Hotel Transennsylvania
01:07:55
podcast after this if you want to stay on. >> That's right. That's what I'm waiting
01:07:58
for. >> You want to stay on? You you were Zohan. >> Just a Hotel Transennylvania 2 podcast.
01:08:05
>> He did the Clutch Cargo characters on Conan, which I loved. You know, the
01:08:10
Arnold just the lips and the arag. Oh my god, we didn't talk about the Hans and Fron movie. That was
01:08:16
>> a Hans and Fr. >> This is the part of the show where we just talk about how much better the show
01:08:21
could have been. >> Well, we Hans and Fron movie. Oh, >> we have to have you back. That's
01:08:28
>> We saw I wrote all your stuff out today and I I knew there was no way this was
01:08:32
going to fit into an hour and so >> I know. I just more than anything I wish
01:08:37
I talked about that. >> Which one? the Hans and Fron movie >> because
01:08:42
>> because it's so funny and it's hysterical movie talked about it on here
01:08:46
because it was the whole way it got put together and then it didn't work out but
01:08:51
there was so many >> Hans and France the girly man dilemma but it was not it's not homophobic it
01:08:58
was just girly men are not are just men without big muscles like them >> you know
01:09:04
>> do you remember the part okay well this is gonna we can't I was going going to
01:09:09
talk about the Cisco and Eert part was one of my favorite. >> Yeah, that whole story. You have 12
01:09:14
seconds. Go ahead. >> Hans and Fron were doing their movie and they're running around somewhere and
01:09:18
they go into a room and Cisco and Eert are watching. >> It's a movie with I mean they're they're
01:09:22
not they're just doing the movie. They're in the movie and they're doing a
01:09:25
cross-country trip to Los Angeles because they want to be in the movies and be with Arnold.
01:09:30
>> Yeah. >> And then they're riding a bicycle across country. And then at one point they
01:09:35
happen upon a big a big uh edifice and they just walk in and Cisco and Eert the most famous critics at the time Cisco
01:09:45
and Roger Eert are sitting in the theater and it's just like >> how's the movie? You like it? It's
01:09:50
pretty good so far. They're watching the movie. >> Lots of action and collapse.
01:09:57
>> They're in this in this dark room watching the exact movie that's taking
01:10:01
place. So on the screen is them us talking to them. >> Yeah. It's you talking to them. They're
01:10:07
like in their movie seats and then >> watching on the screen is us talking.
01:10:11
>> You see them watching >> the movie, >> right? >> And it's like like 4 seconds behind
01:10:17
>> 4 seconds behind. Got it. >> Yeah. That kind of thing. >> Yeah.
01:10:21
>> And then eventually they get kidnapped because they're girly men, >> right? Like you go to check in on them
01:10:27
later and they're gone >> because the the the evil villain has kidnapped he's like remember Sunny Bono
01:10:34
disappears and >> right >> uh I can't remember who who famous girly
01:10:39
man of the day >> the bad the bad guy had a big button that said hurt the weather and then we
01:10:44
cut the window look out his window go hey the weather seems hood somehow you know
01:10:49
>> yeah it was uh it was going to be Dolph Lungren >> Mhm. And he had like this kind of like
01:10:54
final solution villain kind of thing where I am going to eliminate all the girly men of the earth
01:11:03
>> and then he'd turn to the camera and say and I'm going to hurt the environment.
01:11:08
>> Oh, that's had the button that said hurt the environment. That's right. Yeah,
01:11:12
>> cuz we were obsessed. My I I desperately wanted to do like Mike Myers was my hero
01:11:18
later because he with Dr. evil created a character that >> remember all these 80s comedies the
01:11:25
villain you always had to like take it seriously for like >> right rather than
01:11:29
>> you know whether it was Max Fido or in Strange Brew or like >> there you always had to have these
01:11:35
obligatory villains >> and so we were trying to >> make fun of that and have the villain be
01:11:41
as funny as the and Mike and then Mike ended up doing it perfect. >> Good for Mike.
01:11:48
Good for Mike. All right, I go my show. >> This has been Robert Smeiggel, one of I
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would say he's the greatest sketch writer of his generation. You you he's
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in the he's in the discussion. I put him at the top, but everyone can have their
01:12:05
opinion. >> Jack Andy was the guy that I >> Different different lane though. I put
01:12:11
him in a different lane. But yeah, >> it's a different lane. But here's what
01:12:13
I'll say about Jack. That was why all the writers I would say if he pulled at
01:12:17
least the writers of that era >> they would have gone with Jack and it's
01:12:20
because >> someone like me wrote a lot of I'm very proud of a lot of things I wrote but I
01:12:26
feel like you know there are ideas that only I could have thought of but there are other ones that I think other people
01:12:32
>> could have and where Jack >> like nobody else could have thought of
01:12:37
almost any of the sketches Jack >> Handy any read through you'd be like oh my god
01:12:43
this is Jack handy within three lines. You're like, "Everyone looks >> exactly over there smiling." People act
01:12:48
like he was just the act seven guy, like the 5 to 11 guy was huge. >> Was the biggest character on the show
01:12:56
for a couple like literally the biggest character on the show was a cat pup. >> Yeah. Yeah.
01:13:04
>> Look out. And we frozen caveman lawyer. >> Yeah. would always they would get no
01:13:10
laughs practically, but everybody from Lauren on down was in awe of that brilliant sketch. And so it was always
01:13:19
it always made the show. It was never at the end of the show because we were all
01:13:23
collectively just so proud to >> put it on. >> I am a simple unfrozen caveman or
01:13:29
something. >> Yeah. No. That was just the perfect use of >> you did that perfect. I don't know
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what's going on. Yeah, it's almost like I'm a cave. Simple cave, man. I think a
01:13:44
simple cave. >> I think 60 million punitive damages feels about right. >> So, we all love Jack.
01:13:53
>> Yes. Okay. Thanks, Robert. Thanks, Robert. >> Thanks, guys. >> Loved it.
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