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so I was uh selling my house Dana and we had an offer and the guy goes uh we'll give you half cash and half coins oh interesting yeah oh my sons
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would say take it I know but I got scared I would have taken a little bit of Bitcoins but I don't know because
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then it got into like we can get you a condo in the metaverse a really good one that's just being built I'm like right I
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know the metaverse is a good Street in the metaverse are we behind or what we got to get in the middle I feel stupid I
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live in the regular verse I know this physical world is kind of a drag I just want to put the goggles on sit back
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light up something have a little liquid encouragement and just live my life yeah
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I'm getting stressed every day but I do like seeing you the Wall Street Journal another like you know I read a lot of
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newspapers online and I see your face and David Spade sells and then it's just this gigantic number so I'm like
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it's because it's a new world when everyone knows the square footage of your house and they walk through it and they go oh so that's where you sleep
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that's where you eat your carrots it's just definitely weird and then everyone goes how's the house going on Strangers
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in the street hey did a visual tour of your house I go oh gross hey you know the premise of people in Show Business is that all of us have the exact same goal to be as famous as possible sick
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like that is our goal I've seen you around much lately yeah oh my son I still get this I've been in the business 40 years my kids love you they're like they're like 8 13. really what about you
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yeah my kids love you can I get a picture because my kids say You're Something you know who's on Daryl Hammond Daryl Hammond one of the best Impressionists ever yeah long tenure
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Destiny had a great um his his Clinton um after the great late Phil Hartman did him and it was Clinton's second term and Daryl's uh take on it was very it kind
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of owned it he did the lascivious thing but it wasn't grotesque it was just very subtle I do like mamas you know had he's
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so fun to talk to because he loves to talk process you guys are going to talk about the process of uh you know how do
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you come up with Impressions how do you do it do you copy other people do you take tricks do you make it you know it's so it was so interesting because I don't
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do many and I was I want to hear the whole situation anyway yeah it's interesting part of uh comedy anyway
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when you see someone do something like I don't even like to really watch comedians because they may be doing
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something that I've I've thought of and I'll think I'm copying them yeah so with an impression it's kind of the same
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thing when someone gets it out there first and does all the hooks you know yeah they find a hook that you don't
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find you're like oh now it'll look like so I have to copy those hooks that's why I jumped quick with Biden just yeah get
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that Turf and I don't see anybody trying to do but yeah you get the blueprint of the hooks I have new
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hooks too but talking with Daryl was really fun I've noticed with people we interview
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uh there's a humility and kind of a self-deprecating aspect yeah and I kind of think that driven people the reason they're so successful is hey you did
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this this and this like yeah we had the best Clinton then your your Dick Cheney was amazing all right you know what I
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mean it's really interesting because yeah I guess it's part of Drive is you never go I arrived you know you people
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in our career have gotten that attitude and they were gone in like a weekend yeah I think you're ground you have so
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many failures when you're doing this job that you just it's so hard to get cocky because you just know there's another
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one around the corner I remember our former manager goes some guys do this for money that's okay this is Brad gray
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well you seem to do it because you want to do the funniest thing that is the truth well yeah we want this podcast to
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be good rather than you know it it's a Victory lap it's called resting on your laurels you don't have to do anything new I don't know I mean I like our friends Steve Martin and Our Friend
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Martin Short yeah doing an incredible half hour comedy on Hulu uh Cadence 13 produces this show oh yeah Cadence 13. Cadence 13 Cadence 13. which I thought was like a space station yeah 13 come in
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I thought it was 13. Korean boy band Korean boy band oh yeah you saw my their hits hey girl and what you thinking girl
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hey podcast girl uh Daryl Hammond is um he has an emotional story he had a very interesting childhood like a lot of us and so we do kind of unpack that
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and we go into the process pretty deeply and and we admire some of our other Impressionists where their impressions are so good we don't want to try all right here's Daryl Hammond
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[Music] we're never going to use this one anyway Dana never there's not a chance oh hey
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Daryl that's our number one request is Daryl Hammond that's it get the guy who said live from the New York more times than Dana garno because carvey's so cocky about that
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live from New York stuff hey by the way Daryl we're gonna let you talk at the very end but um me and Dana
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talk the whole time but uh right do you know I didn't even know I was angry with
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you until just now because I never got to say live from New York you didn't oh isn't that horrible Daryl how many times did you say it do you know I heard it was in the 80s I just heard
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you broke my record I had people like broken record man I go I didn't even know I had a record I never even got close never got close
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to it was because you had now mostly when you're the president you get to do it a lot so you did it a lot as Clinton
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and then what were you doing it from 2000 to 2009 after Clinton got out um let's see well Clinton did twice and then uh Bush came in so then I was playing Cheney
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so I did it was Cheney and um and then there was about a year there where I was doing it a lot As Trump so I think that's was Dana did Dana did
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you ever go live from guy guys I just eventually they didn't even know I mean the cue cards just were in Greek just said words like still just like
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get got all my comedy is just things that make no sense God that's funny but one of the best uh rhythms that I heard uh as a guy doing a politician was
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uh Daryl doing lockbox I mean that the way you said that's Al Gore it was so light you do it oh yeah I did it a bunch I did it a bunch as Gore
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um lock box yeah oh [ __ ] I can't remember let me see how did that go um I'm gonna put it in a lot it was just
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this guy you know yeah what did you why did you call Gora like a gay Forest gum I know you can't do that anymore but I do I do think now I think of a Tennessee gentleman from like some kind
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of you know 1930s movie and it has nothing to do with a feminine or not it's just a Tennessee I do take umbrage Madam with your nature but it does come
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off like a just a Tennessee gentleman yeah but um it was very funny the way you would say I put it in a lock box those are the kind of things that make
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me happy I mean you know I had been doing Gore in the village um I kept going up comedy seller trying
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to figure out what's the angle on this [ __ ] this guy and I couldn't find anything nobody and
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we even did an update and no one even know who who Gore was yeah I know until the two he was the quiets and then of course as we're coming up to game time on Saturday around four or five o'clock
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in the afternoon same time Downey comes in with about a 70-page script you know like a really long yeah it's usually Franken yeah because that cold
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open was long it was like a 10 minute cold open yeah what was it about it was that it was the first debate of the 2000 debate oh it was just a long debate okay okay Bush uh that's where
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was that the one where will said strategory or something yeah uh so Downey comes in like about five
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o'clock with the script and he doesn't he he starts reading the thing to me okay now I had I could not figure out Gore and what the hell to do with that
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guy because he had so many coaches and he was one day he's like this and that's some
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sort of a list but another day he was something else you know he was like um you know uh let me tell you about a
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friend of mine her name's Adam Munson she's 94. right but I always I always made sure I clenched and put just sort of a
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sort of uh I didn't I didn't mess with Texas you know yeah you change your jaw to get the sound because when he got really excited he
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had like a slight lisp you know mm-hmm and so Downey had that in all the notes the
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thing is when Downey did the line reading I I understood what I'd been trying to come up with which was a Comic
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version of this guy and down he came in with this sort of overbearing school teacher who meant well but just tried
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too hard and it played you know but that's really so he was sort of doing it a rough
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version just to read the lines and you sort of picked up from that and you were like oh that's actually you stumbled
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into something there yeah that's right that's right because I'm not doing them in the village and nobody's laughing and
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nobody cares then good sign seriously and Downey comes in and he starts like um well Jim my plan is very different
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and I was like that's it that's the [ __ ] that's the funny right there that's on Saturday afternoon
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you've cracked your code and that's just funny what you say and also just that voice is funny and I think that
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downing's good at picking out he's really great at it you know and he was great like with Dan Rather and everything
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and and like we're going out to the floor Downey's behind me with the papers in his hand and he's going over again let me tell you about Abu that's therapy over bearing school teacher and he kept
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I was like hammering into me Jim just keep going yeah keep [ __ ] going let me hear it because you you've got it and
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then you just walk out and do it you just he's like loading yeah and he's like standing a few feet off camera and
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I'm looking at him and I'm like oh I know you don't want to lose it so you just want to mumble it and keep saying it you know and of course it was a great juxtaposition with the the
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caricature of w as the frat boy loose from the hip guy and then painting Gore as the school mom was comedic energy it was funny I mean but yeah I don't have
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these politicians feel about it because they do they do get put in a box pretty quickly they do when they sat around we
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do it yeah real fast and that's how people think they talk now and um it's like when you were doing uh
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Bush Senior I mean what the hell was that yeah and it was just like all of a sudden people were like that's how W2 George senior talks
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no really and it wasn't really that yeah it has to be slightly exaggerated somewhere to get a hook
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that's right and that's what I learned from Dana was was caricature because I studied you and then we did that Carson Donohue thing and I love that your Donahue was Supernatural
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you are you are must be some kind of I mean it was just such a funny Rhythm and then Carson against that was just you know is that when you listen to Dana or were you were on the show one of the
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times I hosted we got to do that it was like it wasn't like a debate we were in like a sketch like hanging out in a
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kitchen or something so it was different but uh yeah like we were getting ready to go out for dinner yeah it was such an
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odd juxtaposition but I love the the Donahue the character of Donahue he goes right
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into it the head's bobbing one thing that he does and you just he builds a little made it into this beautiful
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beautiful caricature of you know right that sincerity thing you're a blue collar yeah yeah it's so funny and he goes
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it's great blue collar yeah married 20 years to the same gal I mean come on he did you I mean he actually came up to
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me when I was kind of at the peak of my time on SNL at some kind of lunch room and he just did what you did he just you
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got to be feeling great about this thing and he did the exact same thing so that was such a fun fun sketch I met him one
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night and he was like you gotta feel like God isn't it you know the stars are back where they belong
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what no no the Clinton tell us about your Clint because you owned Clint after Phil you did Clinton and you extenuated it or
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made it your own and uh just what was your hook with him kind of because I kind of do a modern Clinton
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which I'll do in a minute which I I found in the last spot I want to hear that um well yeah but let's let's go over
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your how you found that for um I didn't really find it until uh I got a chance to meet him and be up close to him and feel him and see him do the
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same thing yeah where he takes the room and gets inside your personal space and you know he's like a foot taller than me you know he's got a tucks on and [ __ ] and he's it's the president United
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States and he's always seducing right oh he's to do oh yeah he's seducing everybody it's just charm yeah yeah I mean he was sort of like uh
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like I I said to him um okay I'm just not gonna try to act like I don't look stupid he said something to me like like um this is a paraphrase but not by much
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it was something like but I mean Daryl and he's looking he's so close to me he's in my personal space and he's like
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I mean I make so sincerely I make the headlights for you you turn them into gold I'm like I also you know I'm just like
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do I have should I fight are we gonna [ __ ] yeah like like I was so [ __ ] you right now
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and I'm not gay and I don't care um I don't care I don't think I don't think I have to be gay to enjoy this you know I went to my I went to a buddy's party at his house and it's probably
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like 10 people and we go in the kitchen he goes there's food in the kitchen and we go in there and I was with a date and
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aquilera was there there's probably like 10 people a couple celeb types and then
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uh here's Clinton's in there and I heard he was there but I was like he's no he's here and he's in there with a secret service guy and they're eating pizza and everyone
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just starts eating around the big island in the kitchen and then he Goofs around and then he goes well
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now you're the funny guy why don't you tell us some stuff to me and I was you know of course I was stumbling and
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fumbling but the point was I see the uh Allure and I see how interesting he is and how riveting and you can't believe you're in the small space with them and then obviously the girls were all like
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freaking out and afterwards she's like can I just push you in this wood chipper on the way out and run back in because
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she was not not even faking it she's like I I can't even deal with this I'm so into him
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I had told my uh wife at the time who doesn't really like men anyway but oh we'll dig into that on part two yeah but I said you know I think you guys got
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like some sort of weird charisma and she said you know that's [ __ ] there's no such thing and I was like if
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seriously if I invite you he invites me again you me you come and meet him and so
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you know uh she came there and he saw her detected he had a an undecided voter right and wanted to wanted to and wanted
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to really blow into the boom on her and went over to her and just gave her the [ __ ] gave her the works uh yeah there
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was a point in it where there was like a like a bright red patch appeared on her cheek I was like [ __ ]
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you can always tell so flustered Yeah by him and so was I and he's a good word you know you know where are you from she's like Key Largo he was like oh look you Largo no matter what you say uh yeah
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and she's like well it has a depressed economy and then he's he's he said something to do with it it was something
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like you know there's nothing wrong with Key Largo that cannot be fixed by what is right
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and he goes also I use my dick as a tongue depressor sometimes if you want me to jam it down
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later on I thought in the last like five six years okay real fast like remember when Hillary fainted when she was running against Trump and then he went on Charlie Rose
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and I noticed that he did a lot of throwaway kind of mumbling right and I don't know if you did that hook but it's kind of like well Hills the fan I mean she faints a lot all the time you know
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because she's a little itty bitty thing and she's having an abundant thigh which I find adorable but she you know there's
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a little humidity and she starts going around like a worldly dervish but he sort of has this kind of throw away
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casual thing that he does and I don't know what people are saying or what are they like kind of almost fast I don't
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know lately lately but that was five years ago I mean I really wish I had picked up on that because that would
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just have been gorgeous for him to be saying directly and talking directly and they'll say let me tell you something
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about this I thought you know sort of like a madman like like a diarrhea of the mouth die
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um but but you do his voice now is forced correct someone horse I never really did when I did him on the variety show I did with smigiel Lucy K and Corel and Colbert I just did him in the first
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sketch and it bombed out the show but I didn't do it at all like I had no because Phil had done it you owned it and sometimes when someone owns it on Saturday Night Live you're kind of like
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Ah that's Whoever has it on SNL they're the they're the president of comedy of that character right and then I was asked to do it and I just didn't have anything uh at all it's terrible I've
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only just casually observed him in the last few years and found him very interesting how he kind of his mouth is
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kind of open and there's sort of a a normal guy in in his 70s kind of you know that's a little rough and stuff I just do it for my own Amusement I mean I don't it's not much to do he's not he's
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not senile or anything yet he's still pretty sharp dude right oh yeah he's thin he got thin yeah be because of all the cardiovascular stuff which I can speak to but you know
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where you just like he went vegan or something after his second whatever operation but anyway so
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um yeah what's your favorite impression what are your favorite ones well first let me say I want to talk about when Lauren asked me to do
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I thought you did it great by the way and I I never had a problem with that I don't you know Sherry o' Terry did it once uh stunt casting in those days but
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before you did it and I just thought that's I don't own the impression I mean people would say to me well I'm just
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doing George Bush my hook you could do it I mean I don't own it but so anyway speak to that you did it I don't I want
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to do it like that you know exactly you don't want to copy the hooks of somebody you want to discover them on the on your
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own and I did it must have done it 10 times on the show yeah and like if if I were you know if I were doing it in a club and I did like an act like a my my
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version they wouldn't laugh at it and I never even tried after you did it you know I
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never even tried it on stage with Regis you know I said Dolores like Dana took everything I it can't be done better than that he's like well we need it just do it like
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however so what I decided to do what did you do was close off his nasal passages you
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know yes that's what I decided to do and it made this sound slightly different and this way I wasn't doing you you know what I mean no I I know and that's part of his frequency I would say a little
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bit nasal yeah Jay and I were down at Tijuana in a cave that was a thousand years old it was a thousand
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I did a sign off the other day with William Shatner and just went into Regis in a way of just being able to visit
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with him again honest to God it starts with honest to God you know when he shot me this guy Daryl habit let me tell you
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he's a human tip recorder he could do anybody I'd have still got everybody loves him Bill Clinton they did this and
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you're just like the charm of Regis when he would sign off with a guest just that
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specific thing was so fun to inhabit you know yeah I mean you'd be the guest is on the show like going uh or he'll say something like and so and so and so and so and so and so then he'll pause and
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then he'll go but that's terrific anyway what did you lose story there I was with broke God dead tennis and we had a terrible table then he would take a sip of coffee
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but that's too much anyway that's what happens when you're doing these things let me tell you you're the toast of the
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Town kid but yeah that was he's a fun guy I mean do you ever just like because I'll do it sometimes with Paul McCartney
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or something I'll just find myself kind of mumbling if I'm alone just sort of doing it just to be in that attitude
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with McCartney you can actually do Paul McCartney and I swear to God it's not the [ __ ] easiest thing to do
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okay I'll come up with everyone everyone thinks they can do the liverpoolian accent it's not that damn easy it it for me the hook into it is making
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up words that are liver puddly and colloquialisms but are sort of made up and that you know someone's sitting here you know with uh we're doing the turkey talk you know resume
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and zooming in you know and we can't hear each other so good we get wobbly and we get wobbly and just that's the
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fun of it is repeating those little phrases and I like being Paul McCartney I do a thing about just if the news is
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bad just filter it through his attitude without a pandemic you know a little virus came around we all sat inside a cup of tea what do we do I said put a
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mask on with rubberbank huh you know so it's just a banker yeah you make them up
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you just just add an e and an R you rob a banker and he's like you know hold you up I hold you up so I love just visiting
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that I mean do you find yourself uh coming on to any voice sometimes just to deal with stress in a way or just you know it just makes you feel good to be that that character
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yeah there was a a guy that I knew that was supposedly bobbed up that um when I used to hang out at McHale's in 46 and 8th it was like the most colorful guy and he
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you know he probably had a third grade education but he was they said he was a gangster and he
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talked like a gangster and he said funny Charming super smart things with bad grammar you know
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like uh what she said to me is like a I'm like he's like Daryl you know you know what happens if you hit it that your head with a lamp right you're the guy in there with a led
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the only lamps at that you gotta you go to the penitentiary you understand you understand the penitentiary because
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there was a guy in my house that had insulted me he was a house customized so I'm drinking I'm like I felt like
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hitting the guy in the head with a lamp and he's like and tomorrow morning on the bus to
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Rikers Island right yeah but listen to this Danny he said to me because um and the other thing about it is you know you get your bun on you hit a guy with a
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lamp you know and you you alter him Daryl you Ulta most humans cannot alter another see that's the hook I'm like what is
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Alter like what is like the brain yeah yeah you know make them different or something right yeah it was like he was saying well I mean you two and a guy up you know he wakes up with a headache or
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whatever when you alter another uh you know it wakes up with a speech impediment you understand you understand it and he don't walk right no more you
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know he don't laugh all the way no more you know you gotta walk-in tub now that kind of thing walking in tub now oh that's I love that that I really relate to that because when you go in a
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character like that you just don't feel afraid like a guy you know you we want to dance we can dance I don't like to dance but I'll dance with you wanna dance I like the tough guy that's trying to keep it cool like that like the tough
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guy and I love it when they do it they had no at the end of a sentence so I have a friend like that Gary Prince he
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lives in Florida from Brooklyn and he and you're eating and stuff he goes it's good pasta no he says no at the end I
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love that good pasta no yeah that's that's but it makes you Brave if you I always thought when I was a kid growing up California that New York or the East Coast could beat us up
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like if there was just they came at us yeah that is so tough and you know what the [ __ ] you gonna do you know I got
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these drivers like you know I I'm always faithful to my wife you know I got a little a couple things
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on the side but I'm monogamous you know every two times a month I met this little gal but I'm monogamous I mean
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there's a direct quotes and you go who are these guys I mean no wonder The Sopranos was so brilliant you know did
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you ever do try to do Tony Soprano I didn't but I I agree you know there was a time when I did I was doing a sketch with Molly and she was doing the 50 year old dancer I had a decent some Tony Soprano and
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it's very high isn't it the cue cards were so different from dress like I hadn't actually seen these words before uh and I mean I had I had like you know pancake in my mouth and and I panicked
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and I did I went in like a Brando thing I can relate to that I couldn't I couldn't think of anything else you know I don't know I lost the impression you know it was well I
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actually had dinner with him one night um some restaurant called the five towns he
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was working he was supposedly gonna play like a a hit man like a gay hip man uh we had the same acting teachers so the acting teacher put us together and and we were there and I was drinking and
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the only thing I remember him was asking me if I was okay and I said what I think I'm drinking too
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many martinis and he leans into me and he says geez you're [ __ ] Christ Jesus [ __ ] Christ and I was like that's a good hook anyone else hear that Gigi jija
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oh Lord Christ change your [ __ ] Christ I didn't think he was that easy [Music] you know the guy that mystifies me have you ever done a Shatner
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you know what uh when someone I did it in an early stand-up when I was in college but when you know Kevin Pollock took a ride with Shatner and walking
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wounded down so hard it's another thing where you're like man I guess I'll I'll leave that alone I always wanted to do John Malkovich but I always go to Travolta that's kind of a goal a casual
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goal of mine is to do a perfect John Malkovich but with Shatner I didn't but you did him right on the show didn't you
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yeah but but not well I mean I was you know Higgins helped me out a lot with it I was stuck on an impression I was stuck on Pollock's impression and and it's like doing Nicholson you know I
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didn't want to do it after I'd seen so many people do it so well yeah and Pollock was the one you both thought was
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a good one right like I thought was the king um he went crazy with it he had a physicality with
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the elbow Kevin will wind down on things so hard and there's so much Nuance I mean his walking is the same kind of thing there's several guys who can do a
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brilliant walking but I mean there was a guy back then that I loved and I followed pretty closely named Joe alaski
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yeah had a real he ended up doing Yosemite Sam for Warner Brothers he did um but he had a really really nice Shatner and I I was afraid that when I
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was doing it my Exquisite and [ __ ] Exquisite I mean you don't like you you'd intention you don't want to be influenced by other Impressions you'd rather Discover it on your own right
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walking you can do at home now walking can anybody can do now I I think I don't know who started walking out of all you
00:31:01
guys but it being a casual Observer it's turned into like a Lorne where you can just take it home in a to go and everyone at home can do it but it's always a version of whoever started it
00:31:13
you know I don't know you know I don't know who who do you remember was one of the first walk-ins I I don't really know
00:31:18
I think that because of SNL when you have a personal story that you're telling like when walking said best suit
00:31:25
so funny and best as well then you're then you don't even really care if it's accurate he's just a character in your
00:31:31
story um but as far as doing the clubs it was he went through his Peak I mean everyone was doing Nicholson you know and then
00:31:38
for a while everyone's doing walking I don't know what it is now you know as far as the younger movie stars I mean
00:31:44
I've been doing Brad Pitt from I just do once upon a time in Hollywood which I saw the movie
00:31:49
11 times because I just got possessed by it really yeah I'd like to hear about that um I just saw it the first time and then I just thought I was okay and then I saw
00:32:01
it again and I saw it with my brother and then I saw it with my wife then I showed it to relatives and I saw it down here and uh was facing me I'm a goddamn
00:32:09
husband would that guy say to you don't cry in front of the Mexicans look I like
00:32:15
being your gopher and I like house sitting but let's face it I worked as a stunt man quite some time and I don't
00:32:22
think there's I think there's a lot of things worse than going making Italian movies yeah I don't want to be a goddamn
00:32:27
Hot Town movie how many you seen one two I just I love the movie so much cool you
00:32:34
know I mean I love that movie so much that's cool that's good I even yeah it's wonderful I'll do more I've memorized the movie basically I ended up going to Cielo drive and everything you know the
00:32:45
Sharon tatehouse oh you got possessed by the movie too yeah oh a thousand percent
00:32:51
by the way Kevin Pollock has seen it 12 or 13 times how do you know that I've had dinner with him and asked him
00:33:01
when I saw him do walk and I'm like all right no I ain't doing nothing it's over
00:33:07
it's locked it really reminds me of what you know when I was a kid I was 21 22 and just moved to New York and threw a friend of a friend we got tickets to the public theater to see Meryl Streep in a
00:33:20
play called taking in marriage and she doesn't play She and you know we were in the second row at the public theater and
00:33:27
in the play she played this woman from Connecticut um who had a cold and had to cry okay that was her that was her her thing for the night
00:33:38
and she did all that and I tell you when it was over it's like you know I said to my friend I was like I don't know what the [ __ ] we're doing but we ain't doing
00:33:45
that we're not doing that what she's doing up there yeah yeah that's the difference
00:33:50
it's a different profession coming from some some other other place yeah in their brain you know we're taking an acting class so we're studying acting and we're doing Death of a Salesman and
00:34:01
blah blah blah and then I said we're not doing that that's great yeah I'm like I
00:34:07
don't know what the [ __ ] we're doing brother we ain't doing that um boy was that magnificent but that
00:34:12
Pollock you know when he did the walk and I backed off I'm like yours yours do you see some people do it and you go not like those guys that are great but you see casual people do it on some show
00:34:25
and you go or a stand-up and you go they're close but it's not there you could they could do way better if you know there's also the comedy frequency of it if somebody maybe not the perfect
00:34:36
but it they have a funny take on it yeah you know that's the hard part is to put in your act and make a scenario Daryl
00:34:43
your rock is a lot of these Impressions right so do you have to figure out ways to put it in there
00:34:49
I I could I wouldn't put a walking in and I wouldn't put it ever put a Nicholson in and I would never put a
00:34:56
Shatner in because I mean my you know after Alaskan pollock I mean what the [ __ ] am I gonna do with that I mean it was you know it was hard enough doing Regis in my act after Dana had you know
00:35:08
knocked the ball you know out of the stadium so many times and um people loved it I don't know
00:35:15
closing us but you won't you own your you're up in the the Hall of Fame of Impressionists in the last 50 years in
00:35:22
America all the way from Frank gorschlin and the Canadian Rich Little of course hilarious yeah and then through some of
00:35:30
Dan aykroyd's Impressions Eddie Murphy who does like uh he's like does like five Supernatural Impressions I don't know if he cares Eddie his some of his
00:35:42
stuff is amazing but he doesn't you know I don't think he tries to learn or does a lot of them but they're so amazing the
00:35:48
ones that he does his Cosby and his you know it's so in the pocket Mr T Cosby yeah Gleason yeah yeah
00:36:00
wow yeah yeah I think it was like my major you know like my my hero because the first guy I ever saw that was consistently funny with his Impressions and you know and I was well
00:36:15
he was a he was there's no one like him you know we talk about the history of Saturday Night Live and he was 19 or 20
00:36:21
and he just exploded off the screen you know on SNL I was still busting tables so I don't know how people get that confidence at that young age we've kind
00:36:33
of touched on that but it's amazing to me but also the vocal dexterity is Michael Jackson was also spot on again
00:36:39
and singing As Stevie Wonder singing beautifully oh my God yeah yeah like insane too which is hard to do if you can sing and add that level in did you
00:36:50
ever do a singing impression Daryl I don't know if I have really I'm it's not one of my gifts singing you know you
00:36:56
know there was a time in my life when I experimented briefly with uh doing Anthony Newley this Anthony Newley
00:37:05
oh wow the funny man man can't whatever is that giant eyebrows from the 70s the sunrise
00:37:16
yeah well that was a very dramatic voice yeah I don't know Spade is yawning no I
00:37:23
didn't online camera Spade owned Tom Petty and he had he would open for me he had a hat he didn't have any props but he had a Tom Petty hat [ __ ] what did you put on mutton
00:37:36
chops yeah and then I put my tongue up in the front part of my mustache area like underneath and it made my face pull down it was very unattractive and a very
00:37:48
rude one and then when I met Tom Petty I thought he'd be so excited about it because Michael J fox or Tom Petty or
00:37:55
people out do or be assigned on the show you're usually a fan but impressions are
00:38:01
so exaggerated they're not always flattering and I forget that and I forget they might not be psyched about
00:38:07
it and uh Tom Petty was pretty cool and I I remember there's an SNL book I went over to Letterman to have him sign it and he was very cool but I thought [ __ ]
00:38:20
and then I over the years you know I realized God this is kind of a dumb thing I do I used to I used to close to
00:38:26
the impression Daryl of petty and I didn't really have Impressions so it was just music would play yeah I would sing
00:38:33
like him and just play like the ending and it tied in like a callback too so it was a big really wham bam ending and
00:38:40
then uh and then Dennis Miller we did a gig and I walk out front the next day and he goes and I'm holding the hat and
00:38:47
he goes you sleep with that thing spit and now you're gonna go time to lose the props guy no props and I go that's not
00:38:55
really props it's uh I just have this a little xylophone for my Jeopardy bit he goes those are those are props
00:39:01
if Dennis was here now and say spuddly spudley in the ham cat okay he just Spotlight leaning on the path we got to get some cats Sharon uh you know
00:39:14
copy yeah I ran out of speed go ahead the ham ham cat Hammond yeah ham cat which I can't do Dennis you don't do Dennis he was just he was
00:39:27
on the show we just did him an update you know did you do that with Hanks I did it once it was yeah I did it with Hanks Hanks did it Dennis did it we all
00:39:39
three in a row did it if I'm in a role with Dennis I do I literally my vocabulary gets better I
00:39:48
literally am able sometimes because he's so fast and when you talk to him just to
00:39:53
even today he'll drop so many references as I knew yeah weird funny things you go
00:40:00
where is this coming from he's always like two steps ahead of you I mean the guy's just this giant brain I have an
00:40:06
impression question for both of you impression question that's our next podcast impression question so we will
00:40:14
talk to Shatner recently and he's I guess 90 now Dana knowing him growing up and you did your young impression
00:40:25
is it that different now is the voice div The Voice is pretty you said at the end your voice is really strong and that
00:40:31
was one thing that oh yeah that is a trick that we're like that's why you don't think he's old he's not like hello
00:40:36
like 90 you think he'd be feeble but he's like hey guys good talking to you I'm like holy [ __ ] you're right that was a strong voice and is he is he that much different now
00:40:47
or is it still about the same type of moves he has yeah I mean you know when it's it's irresistible to
00:40:59
not do stuff that other people have done like that Kevin Pollock thing you're talking about again well I mean like um
00:41:08
I don't do shatter about him when he's like yes you know and and that is what we all grew up with I mean initially it was him
00:41:20
as Captain Kirk and he said he developed all that one if he couldn't remember the lines he would he'd cap a pause I can't
00:41:27
believe what everybody's doing and it was intentional that's really good I can't believe what he's saying you know and he did it and he was mesmerizing with those rhythms so we I don't think
00:41:39
in real life he talked like that that was Captain Kirk and that's where we all took it from I mean I didn't watch you
00:41:46
know Boston Legal that much he played Denny Crane all right the knots but I don't think he did that Scotty I need power and I need it now you know and I
00:41:57
think it was a brilliant kind of creation of his you couldn't take your eyes off him and Spock but yeah but
00:42:02
people always say you know Kevin Pollock sounded more like shatter than Shatner you know from that from that era yeah skinny yeah I gotta get that it's impossible
00:42:15
no what you all doing oh yeah so I mean I mean it would have been fun to do it later I actually when I tried to learn Trump
00:42:28
because when he popped out I I thought of Regis and I added Brando in a weird way I
00:42:36
don't really do Brenda but it just was here and then you walk him over to Prince and when you're sort of in here
00:42:42
and then you got to put a little bit but I mean you know Trump went through various incarnations in the beginning he
00:42:49
he had a stronger more classic voice but then when he became president and he started doing all these weird word salads you know weird ticks and rhythms like crazy stuff yeah you know like like
00:43:04
you know I studied them the year that I did them I studied them and I found that he was inspiring that really getting
00:43:12
people to feel things but if you look at the transcript you can't see it because it doesn't make any it's it's like what
00:43:20
would be a good example like uh dogs a lot of people like dogs I like dogs cats are not nice you know yeah yeah I know I mean was he did you watch
00:43:35
celebrity print like I assume did a lot of people when he did Celebrity Apprentice I don't didn't watch it that
00:43:42
much but I don't remember him doing all those many people because he he will repeat one phrase like 10 times in 30
00:43:48
seconds we're doing a lot of things we're doing good things good things many people are saying many good things did
00:43:54
he do that during the celebrity apprentices until he stood in front of a crowd at 30
00:44:00
000 people and then all this yeah yeah I mean like I did a show Once you know uh in front of 10 000 people in Boston and I was aware that hearing 10
00:44:13
000 people respond to me was making me larger faster different yeah just different yeah yeah so I mean you don't even know it right away you're like you're just sort of matching their energy and you're like oh [ __ ] I'm
00:44:25
getting off my game here yeah and then well I mean this was the only time I've ever yeah I ever had done that or have
00:44:32
done that and and all of a sudden I was aware that I was moving differently my voice was crisper my Segways were
00:44:39
shorter like yeah it's interesting I was becoming a different comic up there that's cool and I do think if you don't
00:44:45
feel like if the crowd is so big it is a little bit like a stand-up trick to repeat your premise over and over again
00:44:51
you know we'll do it we're gonna win we're gonna win we're gonna win so much janaka you're gonna say we don't want to
00:44:57
win so much we're gonna win we're winning and it's you can hardly exaggerate it you're gonna say we don't
00:45:03
want to win so much yeah that's what he has a quote you know he has he had a meme online that came directly from Huey
00:45:12
P long the former colorful governor of Louisiana and Huey P long used to say it's not me
00:45:18
thereafter it's you I'm just in the way and that's what people his base walked away feeling every time like yeah there are people after my own life yeah we did
00:45:31
get [ __ ] and on some level a lot of them did you know with that real estate scam and all that but Trump has my
00:45:39
impression of them when I was around him was that he could see right through me like a street like a street guy like a
00:45:46
like a hustler you know definitely I had a Russian hygienist this will make sense in a second she said Putin Putin is
00:45:54
trained he's KGB he can dissect anyone psychologically he'll get the power but I just wonder he goes up against this
00:46:01
other kind of altered sort of quirky guy and you always wonder the relationship between Trump and these you know ye Putin because Putin probably like how do
00:46:14
I figure this guy out what this what am I supposed to say to him because Trump was so you're so beautiful and I almost
00:46:20
felt he's like a mob boss they always go oh he kisses he loves he kisses ass dictators I thought it was a total
00:46:26
manipulation we had a beautiful letter beautiful friendship I love him and then if you look at his policies he was
00:46:31
sticking him in the back that's a mob boss thing right I love it who loves you and then he can do a hit on him what
00:46:37
what do you think he's I don't know I thought he treated Putin pretty good didn't he well he armed the ukrainians
00:46:43
which made Putin crazy he did everything he could to stop the second North stream pipeline I mean he had it at the bottom
00:46:50
of the Black Sea which was the second natural gas pipeline you know and then he bombed the [ __ ] out of in Syria and
00:46:56
stuff I mean it wasn't and then there were the diplomats and but um it was subtle things but that was juxtaposed to
00:47:04
we love which was really close what do you both think by the time Alec was doing Trump he sort of had and he's not a Impressions but he sort of had to do just a very makeup exaggerated
00:47:17
version at that point that wasn't like exactly a great Trump but it was at least it got so sort of
00:47:24
character yeah it was effective it it did it I always say that you know my impressions are Impressions the way
00:47:30
people do Impressions my impressions are SNL impressions how to do it there when this stuff isn't
00:47:37
written until the last second yeah it's very hard and I finally settled on and I did
00:47:44
this you know there were a number of Impressions that I was I was funny with but weren't vocally
00:47:49
um you know what I was was accustomed to doing but you know with him I mean he was killing yeah okay what else do you have to say and you know Alec Alec is a
00:48:00
hulking Alec is kind of a strong like yeah he's a really strong guy and Trump is a big strong guy you know uh and so there was a match there in a way and it
00:48:13
was very effective it really worked and Alec Baldwin uh just knows how to land a laugh in
00:48:19
that studio you know on every yeah I think he got it down to where he could get it plus the crowd is so ready to
00:48:25
pounce on Trump so he could give a joke it's a six out of ten they'll give it a nine
00:48:30
yeah I mean the thing is that he was killing and after that I don't know what else to say yeah you know the whole
00:48:36
point is you know I I Lauren had said you know it's okay to back off from an impression
00:48:42
if that makes it funnier it's okay to caricature it I even have you know like those uh
00:48:49
those Hirshfield drawings where he did all those exaggerations yeah you know that that looked more like Kate burned
00:48:56
than Kate Hepburn and so I model I tried to model myself after that after that but um you know
00:49:03
people would interview me about about Alec and I got the guy's killing I don't know what what else you want and also you know
00:49:11
whatever my crazy is it doesn't extend to not wanting other people to score do you know what I mean yeah I don't own that character it's not mine I played at
00:49:22
Yankee Stadium I don't own Third Base you know what I mean yeah and I don't it would be like being a hitter in the big leagues and you don't want the other hitters to you expect the other hitters
00:49:33
to not do well well I didn't even think of it that way because I guess you had done it and yeah I get it but uh well we're we're part of
00:49:39
a fraternity so it's it's not glamorous I mean we know that Alec they're getting the wig on he's got glue he's sweating
00:49:45
you know he's trying to get a drink of water it'll be in the cards it's just uh you know emotional combat being on that
00:49:52
side in the end and I've been in the studio when they're getting ready for the cold opening I was doing a little guest spot you know and that's like
00:49:58
nerve-wracking you see him getting ready this is the start of the show hopefully God willing this works you know and
00:50:05
everything goes down right before everyone's like so you just have props for you know anyone who does that it's
00:50:12
not it's not easy you can do it not sure and then and then from the floor Chris is going 30 seconds yeah and you're like
00:50:20
okay five seconds [Music] so one thing that I love that you did I wanted to get to and just your pick your
00:50:33
brain on it when you did Sean Connery um I felt like that was an example it's great the way you use it in that Jeopardy show was so powerful like you
00:50:47
landed The Way It Was Written and the way you did him so serious and I don't know what I mean that was like a magic sketch when I first was learning you know the impression it was the same
00:50:59
thing with pet couple I was learning these impressions and I was probably nailing coming close
00:51:05
to nailing it vocally but it wasn't funny you know so I always thought of you and uh and the stuff you've done and
00:51:13
and I tried to do him in a funny way and it wasn't as accurate as it had been vocally when I was learning it at my office but it was funny I was getting my laughs your whole physical attitude and
00:51:26
everything about you was so serious and so so masculine that it just in this silly show but it really yeah yeah it was just one of those
00:51:38
Lauren being around there is kind of like you know uh Daryl it's a funny show is it funny are you being funny are you getting the laughs like the first time I
00:51:49
did Ted couple I didn't do that a single laugh you know and he's like stretching
00:51:55
out of shape be like Dana I never did couple very good like you that the the the tenor
00:52:03
that you have is perfect all the only thing I did but was from the show I'm Ted Koppel and this
00:52:09
his Nightline I just took a long pause so yeah it's it's trickery it's okay you know you're what do they say in acting class you're printing Ted Koppel now you can do the material yeah you know what I
00:52:22
mean it doesn't have like thank God I wasn't vocally vocally accurate every time but like with Connor
00:52:29
he was like oh [ __ ] you know like uh he doesn't say that Lush light you know when I was pumping guy pan all over your tonsils you know it was it was a camera
00:52:42
that was so brilliant yeah I was doing I was being like Dana I exaggerated him and it killed it killed as opposed to when I just you know did it vocally super and then when they just laid there
00:52:57
it's true I don't think people understand the pressure of of doing stuff like that because the
00:53:04
whole it's only like the whole planet is watching right yeah but it's just Trump tweeted
00:53:11
about me a couple times or you know I'm like and I'm thinking to myself Vlad Putin's reading this you know yeah how crazy you're getting ready to go on
00:53:21
TV and oh yeah they're watching in Moscow they're aware watching in Moscow tonight
00:53:28
if you think about it too much you'll just start start crying I try to just make that audience right in front of me
00:53:34
laugh you know but yeah terrifying yeah I mean I was doing a thing uh one time I was doing a Rumsfeld bed and and I look up and a rod is standing
00:53:46
there and Paul McCartney and I just like pant I was like what in the [ __ ] am I doing in this room you know and they
00:53:54
have to watch you yeah why am I in a room with a with an original beetle [ __ ] that's kind of why they they bought everyone I guess
00:54:08
is comfortable out there and I'm not sure I ever was comfortable I was always I I went home most of the time thinking
00:54:14
I disgraced myself you know even even into after 10 years still you didn't absolutely and then it got really you know difficult for me in the end because
00:54:25
um you know when Obama came in um I didn't play anyone in his administration and the writing was sort of on the wall oh yeah your time's up bro but it you
00:54:37
know it lasted a an agonizing two more years and I've always told people it's harder to get off Saturday Night Live than it is to get on set well it's hard to go where do I go like
00:54:48
everyone leaves and goes I gotta go somewhere because I'm I gotta make some money and I gotta nothing beats a steady
00:54:55
check and whenever you people forget like in Sag or you stop a TV show or movie and it goes from good money to zero there's no middle it's just zero and you go [ __ ] I get a couple residuals
00:55:08
here and there but that's not doing it and it's just high pressure and it's it's always hard to just jump and go I
00:55:15
gotta go and then you're like why and then after a week you're like I could still do it I mean I still know how to do it but you you probably do feel it's
00:55:22
time when I left I felt it was time and it was a little late I think that you created this great character that you is
00:55:28
traveled you know on situation comedies and stuff for people like Daryl and I there's really no place to do what we do
00:55:38
I mean there's only one live schedule from New York where you do Impressions and characters there's nothing quite like it so I could see why it's you know it's hard to let it go it's strange to
00:55:50
come back and you know you'd always have some part of your brain like God why couldn't I have done this a long time
00:55:55
but you know Carol Burnett did nine years you know I mean there were these variety shows just aren't around I tried
00:56:02
it in prime time I think Martin Short did there was there was In Living Color which was its own different style but
00:56:09
generally speaking to do sketch comedy it's just SNL they have their own lane really
00:56:17
costumes are great when it works it it's it's magic it's live it's live and they
00:56:22
have Kim Kardashian or Wayne Gretzky on there it's it's very it's it's it's got so many things and that's about me that
00:56:27
in dress rehearsal and Tech rehearsal when you're saying live from New York you never say it's live from New York
00:56:33
it's Saturday night you always say live from New York it's gobblygoop I always try well I always hope I'm peeking on air you know I was hoped that when I was on the air show the the
00:56:45
report card part of my brain is going this is the best I've done it this week you hate to peek at dress we've talked about that but yeah we did talk about it a lot and you said
00:56:57
um it's sort of like get your bearings Know Where Your Mark is get the voice right get familiar with the language get
00:57:04
some laughs and uh but you said something bizarre to music save something for air it's hard
00:57:11
to do but yeah I did make it it's very difficult well you want to get on and you know you go oh I saved too much
00:57:17
because it's sketch got cut well you got you have to know if you're in the cold opening you're probably
00:57:23
gonna go on you know but uh yeah it's a real mental thing SNL and to try to turn
00:57:30
the tables of of confidence where you're like I can't wait to show them what I'm
00:57:36
gonna do same thing with stand up we all do stand up and some nights you're just in such command and control you're just
00:57:42
like you're just dominating you know and then some nights it's just you just feel
00:57:48
awkward and it's hard when you're on the live TV thing worse than doing air and about 20 seconds in the air you're like
00:57:54
they're not as good of a crowd there's nothing quite like going so I've done this before and it's killed before and I
00:58:02
don't know what's wrong with you this killed on Letterman but it's not killing it yuck yucks yeah yeah yeah so it reverses the yeah right you ever been
00:58:13
in front of a crowd and it's like you're two or three minutes in and you're going oh wait they don't get me
00:58:19
yeah they're not buying it they don't get I just threw my my high heart when I threw my fastball like three fastballs yeah you know it's just not happening
00:58:29
tonight I just try to break it down then just start doing crowd work or something just mayday mayday shake it up yeah I
00:58:36
always think if you're not buying the first three jokes you're not gonna like the last three they're all about the same like if you don't think I'm funny
00:58:43
it's all about like this yeah I just gave you my best [ __ ] right there and you just sat there like yeah you know yeah [ __ ] oh gross uh why did we choose
00:58:54
this life we're in a crazy we're crazy people well they're an or nutty theater folk anything else for Daryl Dana what do you think um I've just enjoyed this so much I it
00:59:06
we're loving this and I say this every time I just like hanging out with people that I've had interactions with
00:59:12
and especially had touchstones with with Saturday Night Live so it's just so much fun to do this and um
00:59:20
I will come on your podcast when next time you ask me oh I'm asking you both right now um I will whenever uh whenever you you just let me know it's really it's really
00:59:30
difficult you know for a while we were doing well we had like you know we had Jane Fonda wow
00:59:39
um we had some pretty cool people on and we did a decent job but Jesus once I don't work that much but my partner Chris Milhouse works a lot he produces so it's hard to put together sometimes
00:59:52
but it is the key to podcasting is to make it as easy as possible so you can't so you keep doing it of course that would give us a huge boom and any any any form of servitude I could do
01:00:04
for either one of you let me know because you did I gotta I gotta set up here uh I'll get rid of this buzz but
01:00:10
yeah let me know I'm happy to come on and I'm gonna have someone transcribe this and then we'll we'll we'll read it
01:00:17
like a script we'll just re do what we just did but it's going really well let's just do this
01:00:23
I think that's what we should do um how to how do I uh how do I say thanks you don't have to say thanks you just
01:00:34
came on our podcast I know but it was you know it was a really good experience and it felt real it just feels good to
01:00:41
talk about comedy and you're both funny as [ __ ] last time I was all sprayed was a comedy store and you [ __ ] Crush I
01:00:49
love it thank you fade knows how to do stand up extremely well he is extremely good as dead yes well I didn't do many
01:00:57
Impressions on the show and it's sort of fun for me too because it's different different mechanisms there's different
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reasons people on the show but it's so fun I'm always so jealous when I see good Impressions it's so fun to watch
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and uh just even watching you guys do it this whole talk is hilarious it's great
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I just tell people to throw their voice like I enjoyed Daryl's uh New York guy as much as any impression
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and you know sometimes you go well I'm doing an impression of my brother Brad now he's called Garth but also for young
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comedians I go just throw your voice just start talking like this or whatever just just get get it out if you want to
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do comedy that way yeah I mean some of my favorite voices are are not famous people I mean yeah you know all the time I lived in New Orleans and people that I've met there you know when we do my
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podcast or you guys come on there's people I want to do for you that I knew in New Orleans and we're out of this
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world oh yeah good gosh well this man is such a good time I enjoyed it so much no
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I'm doing Clinton now this is a fun little thing and we talked all about process and things like that and how we
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deal with nurse on Saturday Night Live it's a good show and all like that you know so anyway so much fun Daryl really
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really interesting Daryl thank you all right just reach out to me we'll talk soon okay sounds good take care guys
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