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hey David no offense or nothing I love when people start no offense or nothing nothing here comes the offense no
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offense or nothing but you're wearing FYI another one I love you're wearing the same hat you wore when we were
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interviewing live Zach Galifianakis oh yeah was that a theme with you no I just I like to be close to Zach or what I like this hat and uh God damn we had a blast of Zach it was fun um don't have
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to swear no gosh dang that's what I mean gold darn it but I got a little Zippy what's it called a three-quarter inch three-quarter sweater you got the dog
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you can get a 12 Grand what did you ask me I don't know who are you what I don't like talking about 100 Grand but fast
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seven million dollars who cares about numbers that's that's not exactly that's Joe Biden trying to pronounce that Jack break a glass yes this is a hard cat exactly that's my sister you
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know yo come on man I'll kick your ass he's gonna just by the end he'll just be threatening he has to fight a lot of people because he always threatens the guy a tough guy he's the old guy in the porch the ball came in my yard he says
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am I my ball now dude I wouldn't even trust him oh man willikers a ball okay so this is great
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let's should we talk about Zach people always ask us are we cold in here are we hot is it bright why do we have sunglasses why do we all we know is we
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look cool yeah it's all that it doesn't matter it's about does not matter 91 degrees in here right now but we never
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said and then they go the scary part is they think they look cool look how we phone in the podcast of course we stay
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cool even if it's hot we got one foot out the door half the time dude I phoned that suckering I love phone and last
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night I fell asleep twice is that what Zach was so funny he's so quirk's Ahoy is really the theme he's a very interesting actor hilarious comedian yep
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you never know what you're gonna get we were lucky to sit with them because we all think he's such a high up there on
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the yeah I said to him at one point you only do cool things it's true he turns down I think we didn't get to the point
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last night because people go oh hangover uh Between Two Ferns is a home run obviously classic and they don't see him
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a lot but he turns down so much and that's not really usually the custom he he breaks that yes so it was fun to talk
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to him and uh we laughed our ass off uh he has a an incredible sense of humor he's one of those comedians who will laugh incredibly hard yeah it's very nice when comedians give it up and yeah
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Charming family man uh very has a lot of Integrity organically without wearing on
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his sleeve about his work like talks about how he just doesn't want to do things because that wouldn't work out or
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wouldn't be very good so he was such a fun guy to hang out with David unlike me um I do things that are horrible on
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purpose no I don't well I've got subsidies and like I said the church lady is for sale if anyone's listening to this intro I think one of these shows you got there you gotta dress like a
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church lady and we'll just do a whole thing and yes I I think I I think we should we should have special guest
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appearance church I got the full gear on and you could maybe interview one of the people one of our guests geez you got me
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busy how about you dress up as Joe Dirt Dana and you're a clown you're you're not a clown you're Joe
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Dirt I am so similar Joker it's not even that much different there's not I'd have to get out of the cobwebs go to the
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Smithsonian get the codes my wife says how was Joe Dirt today I said you mean David she goes oh yeah oh is that a different that's his alter ego it's like Santa Claus well let's go let's wrap it
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so why you should watch this Zach is one of our favorite guests I do believe he's one of the uh 100 seminal comedians of
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his generation he's there's only one Zach and he has a very finely tuned sense of humor and is a hell of a nice guy so enjoy the show David uh I agree
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[Music] hey hey you go there it started it's already almost over thank you okay so great song I thought it was good you know I did an impression within the
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first 20 seconds damn this chair look at our chair differential the [ __ ] I'm like a muppet
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you're like six two in that thing I'm gonna get up front be like this what's up Zach
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what I'm sorry is that here yet I was I got up at six [Laughter] let's bring him out yeah uh that's the beginning all right Zach
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welcome Zach galvanaka galvanakis sure [Applause] it was a little louder for Zach if anyone's Counting
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all right okay yeah I'm just saying I'm just gonna say you're something else man yeah something else there's something else you look
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like Wolverine right now with that hair oh really I'm sorry cool I actually have cool hair which plugs are coming in nice
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yeah a lot of pluckward a lot of plug work props coming in um so how you doing is
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I'm doing well David why is that Gerald that way this one I don't know it's uh Orthopedic
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issues oh okay he likes to be seems erect oh I don't know this is good okay anyway we don't have to talk about it no sorry Zach enough of this [ __ ] so Zach can we uh butter you up a little
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bit yeah let's butter him up okay how the [ __ ] did you come up with the two ferns thing because that's too crazy
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some of you remember coming coming hot right out of the box because that thing is I saw every episode today oh
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today well they're they're wise I've seen them before but I'm almost 80. I have to refresh my
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memory this is an illusion it's a lot of blood and gut and sweats and tape um so when did you come up with that yeah um it was part of a pilot that uh they
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were doing and this guy Scott Ackerman was producing it and he asked me to do um come on up Scott but um he just said would you do something and I just said
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I I for some reason I I had this thought I just said can you get me two ferns and some kind of celebrity and uh I had worked at a cable access uh
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show uh or station I interned one in college and um so I kind of like that world that kind of low-end desperate
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uh try to wait a way to communicate um I actually had a taped a class at a cable access show about uh how to how to waltz
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um and I got my two friends you know back when you could do this stuff you can't do it anymore and we just put them in gowns and it was a very straight
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video and dance lessons on cable access on how to watch with not trying to be funny
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so that kind of weird world I knew uh Scott ockerman asked Michael Sarah to be in the first one and we just kind of made it weird and creepy
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and I I always had thought celebrity interviews are what do you mean ridiculous no they are he's talking like Access Hollywood oh okay it's a little yeah yeah oh it's I
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mean it's just such a bizarre but let me ask you a question about this so the guest comes in and I understand
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from my research today um that you didn't really prep it with them did they have cue cards or they don't even know what's coming and then you guys just go right at it or they
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don't know where you're going no nobody really knows what's going on um I mean I mean even us uh I mean we have written things down and I think the idea
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is they don't need to be funny they just need to kind of answer questions and I think the um
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the awkwardness kind of fills in the rest of it and then often part of it is improv and we just kind of or I'll give
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them a something to say back at me that's very mean yeah so it's kind of a very give and take it's not a prank I
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don't want to prank people because I'm sure people uh because you know the publicists in this world are very
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uh hawkish and they don't want you to do anything where you're going to look stupid so you take the Michael Sarah one
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maybe and and they either see that because that probably goes up on Funny or Die maybe back then pretty quickly and then that catches on so they go
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someone might even call you and say hey I'd like to be on this because it's my type of humor and the people you have on
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obviously are funny and they're huge stars and uh and when they go along with it makes them look better it's all good
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it's sort of when you're on SNL and you go with it like they if you let them make fun of you and goof round it seems
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to be funnier yeah I mean there's that that is all true I mean but there's been some times when I've go sideways
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that I don't really I don't know if I've even I don't know if I've even spoke about it but oh goodness
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I don't even know if I have but there's been a couple of instances and I don't mean to bring people up but yes um
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the name of this show is name names the reason the reason the reason I bring it up because I was just talking about it
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to somebody today at lunch for some reason and uh so I interviewed they brought it up and
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and at lunch today and they interviewed I mean I interviewed um Jennifer Aniston uh yeah
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you know Smart Water we all Jennifer I mean we only know her because of Smart Water right what about her shampoo commercials she's
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got one um I guess she I mean so did you say something to your thought across the line no no
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um in the wings I had a Brad Pitt look-alike [Applause] oh boy and so I wanted to tell her about it before it you know we started filming so
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I kind of asked her if I could have a word with her you know like a vice principal no but
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someone who looks like Brad Pitt might be expensive well no I wasn't how many people look like wait yeah but that's
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how I remember scale minus 10. so um so you pull her aside and you say is it okay we try this or anything and I
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said I I have a a Brad Pitt look alike here and as soon as I said it I read her face
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yeah and it was her I I I I felt so bad and I don't even know anything about that thing I mean I know that was in the things but in the papers but um so I don't know much about it but so of
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course I called it off so I went up to the Brad Pitt look like so tell them we don't need him he's wrapped yes and I as a joke I kind of went
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oh I said listen we don't need you uh thanks for coming uh and as a joke I said Do you happen to look like anyone
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else and without pausing he goes Colin Farrell so yeah there's there's those little
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they'll get rid of me yet I am a chameleon oh you know and Jennifer is very funny uh she's very funny girl but
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I think that might be you know they they go he says he's reading the papers you're calling her a girl it's 20 23
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guys is she funny I mean is she a girl yeah she's great she should be a woman I guess you call it Michael I'm sorry I
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say girl a lot uh but she is very fun person I think when they go on they kind of know what they're getting into and then it probably goes a hair farther than they think and uh yeah I mean I I think
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the idea is to try to rattling as as much as you can read people and push it there's been a couple of times that um yeah I was going to ask you about that but
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well has there been times where like would you do one with Mike Tyson I uh uh I uh
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well I don't really do them anymore Sean Penn's scary enough but but you're a fan of Don Rickles right because you did that show so Don Rickles to me as a
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kid growing up was the funniest yes guy on television the reason is because he everyone loved
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him he'd put you down and then he'd go the show started put it in the corner give him a cookie he doesn't know it was so dry and so bizarre there were no
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jokes do you feel like that was an influence for the character the fern Guy character to ride that line because it's
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funny because you're going right at some sort of truth about them and if they have a sense of humor about it or a
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perception of them they laugh really hard right I mean part of it I mean if you were to really break it down I guess
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is that they are there are public figures that people kind of want to unfortunately jabat anyway there's some of that to it um and I think at the end of the day I
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think it's the media and all the thing every type people are human we're all you know obviously and I think people
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that are willing to make fun of each of themselves uh I think that's a real nice attribute
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to someone even if it's staged a bit uh I think being able to laugh at yourself in in that kind of way is is a nice thing no I've been asked to do them
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with other people uh presidents of companies and you know big say Pepsi has asked to sponsor it you know to get blown out of proportion and I've always just wanted to keep it
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free online and keep it clear of those other things that get in the way yeah the monetization people would come in and go we've monetized it a bit but
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only only just only in a way that we see fit I mean we we've been asked to I've been I got asked to do a Super Bowl commercial using it and
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it's coming out next week I can't remember a really good deal I did a puppy Bowl commercial earlier uh and it's I'm for sale the church lady is
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blocked and loaded for so no go deep by the way first of all I'm ready and I both obviously sellout Kings here
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we we've done well we all are we have corporate gigs and when you do them they go our CEO do say something about mother
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God I don't even know the guy works there he's like when you get up there so he's got three balls he beats do something about that just throw it in
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there mix it up throw it in the middle and uh and then you go and then you do it and everyone goes what and you go
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this guy work with you he just told me so they try to do that and that's kind of what they want to do to see you like
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roast them or something and you go it's not even funny sometimes they're drunk and I I was playing Earth Wind and Fire
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was supposed I was opening for them the CEO got drunk the CEO got drunk it went on for like two hours so I was getting paid a lot of money to go you can only do 15 minutes but I went over a little
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bit I guess Earth and wind came out but fire wouldn't that was a long way for that joke I
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don't mind it did you really open for them I did open for them yeah I hope for a lot of people Tower Power Todd
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Rundgren you know I opened Robert Palmer really I bombed every [ __ ] time yeah Jesus Christ your hero will be on in a
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second before first Dana glorfo they must have ruined your name when you first time everybody I mean how would they say well they just tried to make it sound
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somewhat ethnic give it up for baklava Rodriguez that hurts I was doing hard keys now Zach Zach by the way I'm gonna come back
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to that [Music] the first ferns I saw uh these friends are like Tall Pine trees by now when I saw the first one I didn't know what it was someone just sent it to me and or said look at this and so I
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thought it was a real interview and then it was Natalie Portman who I love and so I was uh of course in a Jail's rage
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immediately and then and then you were saying some of you you had great jokes not I won't repeat them because I'm not good at that but
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but you said so many jokes and it was so and for her to play along and I thought it was real for a while and then I go
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Jesus this is so weird and then uh it took me a while to figure it out too long and then uh then so I started going
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oh this is great and then when you would do them you obviously didn't overdo it you didn't do too many they weren't
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super long uh it was just a great great uh bit that lives out there on the internet which everyone should see um I don't know I'm going with this Dana jumping would you like to say anything in your
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defense Zach uh speaking of that when we shot it that one we shot in a garage and um I think we shot that one in the garage
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uh right around here right in Hollywood somewhere and uh the the thing about that one is um there's a line in it not to be vulgar
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but it's uh something about did you shave your okay you said let me hear it for Vendetta yeah and then there's a punch line did
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you shave your V for vagina or something that one caught me off to Natalie Portman in a garage yes in a garage in a garage
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by the way I barely understand that joke I don't know but that sounds fun I think it's the fact that I'm asking yes so anyway uh
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she would if I remember correctly she was quite um good with the whole thing and then um
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I we sent it uh to her just to you know show it to her and uh I had asked that joke to be left out of it I said can you edit that out we'll send it to her and her note was where's
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that vagina joke I don't know if that was the exact note where is the vagina joke something like something yeah
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she's unreal but uh did you there's a dog that you keep cutting to which is even funnier yeah that was I think that
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was a real deal the dog rolls over his back and then when something dies or just sits there then they cut over the
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dog it's all it all works and then I uh Sean Penn one Sean looked very cool on that
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one huh yeah I'd be scared of that one and then uh Sean Penn can yeah I had a fight with him I was in a dress at the time but you know
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I would like to one day talk to him about the one we did because if I bring it up because it was
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it was an interesting uh it was an interesting day it was very great he was very he's a good actor yeah so he could or he's a good actor
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um um and uh I I think he may have been ready to duck me in real life I I don't know maybe he was doing a method thing and I I don't know he held it so serious that you
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weren't sure if he was serious he might have been yeah and and I have worked with him I mean I'm not
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that I know him but you know he has a good sense of humor he really does yes um huge laugher and um it loves to go see stand-up uh but I I
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in that moment it was uh I remember watching was it something you was it a line that you
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gave me you said something because you weren't you playing your brother or something I was playing this overly over
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the well it's not really over top there are people like this in the South um uh really into him for the wrong reasons type person okay and how does that guy talk
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well it's based on a character I used to do um in high school called the I think his
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name was a of the effeminate racist and uh I remember that Skittles yeah so that's great so it's just a guy that talks like
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the yes and so friends of mine that were black in high school would bump me in the
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hallway so I would this character would be released and I would say to them my mom told me not to talk to black people and they go crazy with die laughing because they
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understood at the time that I was mocking it all you know so that's where that kind
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that's where that came from that was as simple as that well there was something Dana where he goes uh Sean and he's
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doing this and he's sort of prodding he goes did you get in the I'd get into Hollywood just so you could go to all the parties and all the wrong reasons
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that Sean wouldn't want Sean is very funny and unlike his uh Persona out there and so I like these going along
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with it but he was so serious then he goes I could walk over there and knock you the [ __ ] out right now and even I was
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like God damn he gave that a good reading I think he knew it was funny and interesting I think he was good I don't
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think he was offended I'd like to ask him we haven't spoken since um I his kids and my kids went to school together or at least played Sports
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together up in Northern California so I'll talk to Sean yeah ask him ask him amen I want to smoke if you could smoke and
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not get diseases I would definitely be smoking right now this is nothing cooler right it's like to tell us some more
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Zach anyway can we go back to you as a young person then like yeah you like you strike me as like an introverted extrovert like you're shy in a way I think we are maybe well I think I am but
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yeah well it doesn't matter anyway um but then you have this Powerhouse thing that comes out like in high school did you go to the theater group or are you just funny with friends or what were you like in grade school high school just
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walking around uh I just walking around um I mean you know I think I was somewhat quiet but I think uh uh I mean humor in my
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family was seen in very high regard uh so my cousins and my brother and my my family is funny you know I kind of
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watch them even as the quiet person I thought I was or I think I was so I was kind of this more kind of observant kid that thought maybe one day I could through my
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observations maybe make a a thing out of it and you were thinking that like at age 8 10 12 I mean but young young you
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got the idea maybe you would do this for this is going to sound weird but it was at my parents conception of me
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[Laughter] does that sound weird at all I was killing my brother Brad I got three older brothers he swears he remembers being born and he's serious really yeah he has a photographic memory
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just remember he was born yeah um I'm not kidding Brad the guy funny younger really pays off and I think that's for all of us like at dinner or at school like I was at a school that
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was a I was a little bit of a pipsqueak hard to believe and always bullied and push around but if you could I would
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quietly say jokes to my friends or under my breath but that kind of if you get a little something that's all I had I
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wasn't super athletic I wasn't this so if you have some little hook like that you go oh my dad thought it was funny
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you know people think it's funny and then you go home and then you try to maybe that's kind of like that for a lot
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of comedians the tall guys didn't have to do anything to get the girls we on a bio evolutionary level we had to be
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funny Zach you're not that short you're you're you I'm around six two okay that's a gigantic chair it's a it's an optical illusion same with me I look
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like I'm a foot shorter than you look at this okay places no okay I like it up here so Zach so
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you're did you take theater did you go into that kind of stuff or you're just like no I I I I just was not
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um I never did uh I did um public speaking competitions well I did that once um how's that going to say a lot it sounds good well my mom wrote the speech
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and it was called you and I and tomorrow seriously yeah that was the name of it really yeah was it a public service it was um I don't remember you and I we
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should do a remake yeah there was a speech contest in North Carolina locally and then you could go to the state
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finals and my brother and I were kind of into it uh but never really uh no theater none of that my mom tried to get me to go to the School of the Arts in um
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in North Carolina she did urge me to go there she knew that I had I mean she knew that I was eager to figure it out
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what's this which school year School of the Arts is a really a really good school in uh she really she was your
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Champion she bought it oh my mom was my mom would be like he's quiet but I swear he's funny
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like I would hear her say that to her my aunts and stuff and did she want you to play piano when did you learn to play
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piano all right so I learned piano I mean I I don't know how to play piano it's uh I'm that's that I don't know how
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to read music so I I don't know why I was getting ready to tell you well I learned piano
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I don't know pianos you seem pretty good to me uh well I can I can fake it like but oh for some reason only sad music comes out of me and it goes well with
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the jokes you know didn't you do a VH1 show and I think you uh why do I think there's a piano at the beginning of that I I did I had a um
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I had a talk show in VH1 years ago uh and uh there was the piano was involved during the monologue and I think that's why I had to show it because I was like a musical act one sort of variety where
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you could because you're not you didn't want to just interview like Johnny Carson like normal straight interviews I'm sure right
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I was just trying to figure out the format had been beaten to death and and I just was trying to figure out like how
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can I do something different but interesting and sometimes funny uh the funny was kind of last but we on that show we would have
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we would have it make it look like no one wanted to come to the show so we would have one person in the studio
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audience but we would have a laugh track of a six-year-old so it was very bizarre it was really a weird show can we find this somewhere I
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know of most of those episodes are in my attic um uh it's I don't think I don't think
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they're online I don't know if they are I remember what was it called Do You Remember
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it was called 60 minutes nope it was it was called late late world late world yeah how old are you when you do late world uh uh Thirty Thirty Thirty
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Thirty you know so how long have you been I don't know how old I was I was 35 maybe I need
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numbers how long did you do stand up in clubs before you got that show oh I was still doing stay and then that show failed and I went back to doing open mics so I had a talk show on VH1 and as
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soon as it ended I was like well back to the old so I just went back to the coffee houses and you're really making a
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living then at stand up or just a little bit there was a time where I I could go on the road and you know do do make a
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living and I was made before I Was Made I was making a living for a while on the road yeah
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and you had an hour of I had an hour of uh sometimes the material was a little bit um
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too bizarre sometimes and I there was some alienation I mean it was funny when you were telling me about eye open for this Sugar Hill Gang once and uh I said a hip hop hippie okay and I remember
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getting kicked off stage because I made fun of the Bible and I didn't realize I was performing at a
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bible school like and this this is how they kicked me off the woman just came up to the station
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laughs so yeah those I mean yeah all those shows all those did you have a Southern accent when you were and you got rid of it or did you actually have a little bit of no I I mean I'm going home
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in a couple days and I I don't just go back it just it turns back on it's just as a it's an easier way to it's North
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Carolinian I mean what is that well it's not Mississippi it's no it's like Appalachia North Carolina Appalachia and
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a lot of people speak through their nose there and it's like Hi how are you and but if
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you go east in North Carolina it's very breathy and it's really beautiful and it
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sounds nice but so there's all kinds of different accents that I you must pay attention what did you think of Daniel
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Craig's accent and knives out well I thought I thought it was kind of cool I always find Hollywood always does the going with the wind I declare I have
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never seen such a you know well I think we are we have a okay it's a little Foghorn yeah but I thought I thought it was great I mean he is he's pretty he's a cool it just has to be
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funny or sound weird yeah no one's entertaining but you you can go through all the Southern Accents I'm pretty I'm
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pretty good with knowing where in the South someone might be from I'm pretty good at it
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where am I from you don't seem to know where I had a friend I had a friend from Mississippi he kind of talks like this yeah I'm from Columbia Falls Mississippi
00:32:36
you sound just like Gomer Pyle that's right you're up and he's a real sincere fella but you these snakey fellas trying
00:32:42
to get your money Dana these are direct quotes he'll be thrilled he got laughs but um Dana I did
00:32:49
a movie where I was playing they go you're going to play a New Hampshire accent so first of all okay that's a tough one I feel I smell an Oscar
00:32:56
immediately so I say I'll go they go go to a dialect coach so I go to dialect coach I'm like doing it and they go that's a little more Boston I took two lessons right
00:33:09
for the whole movie and I'm like uh listen guy and they're like it's morning and I go
00:33:15
I pulled her aside I go here's the deal my audience is four to eight year olds all right I just have to sound funny all right they're not gonna go in there with a microscope they go oh he sounds if I
00:33:28
just don't sound like Joe Dirt in one movie they'll be happy all right they'll go oh that one's different so so it was
00:33:35
a kid's movie and they're trying to get you to do they're not supposed to be kids movies they're trying to do it because that's
00:33:41
yeah because all my movies aren't TBS because it's the grown-ups Channel and it's just a rotation of every man I could have helped you do you remember those petrich Farm commercials fam
00:33:52
petrich Farms fake and delicious that's the only way I could do New Hampshire is that true Hampshire isn't it didn't
00:33:59
recognize it that rich Farm coming different blueberries strawberry flavor the expert over here I don't know again
00:34:08
um Miami what do they sound like I'm playing Durham Durham is that a city that's a city that's where Duke
00:34:14
University and I'm excited at playing that but uh any trouble should I worry about uh that's where my dad's from uh that's
00:34:21
where he's uh I don't have any comps left but um yeah normally it would be easy uh no I'm excited City
00:34:34
I love the South yeah I was gonna ask Zach something else oh you were in the uh what's how far did you get in the scouts I heard you were in the scouts uh it was an eagle scout is that the complimentary molestation
00:34:47
where's my nose where do my notes go oh here they are there I'm kidding Zach we're taking that
00:34:54
out no no that's fine or we're putting on a loop for promotion Zach's like that was actually written down I'm walking out of it
00:35:06
[Music] oh well let's ask him about uh I wanna well we can talk about The Hangover you
00:35:13
were in The Hangover just like this is like this is like uh The Hangover was like they were in The Hangover and then
00:35:19
everyone that calls applaud they don't know they don't hang over of the last 20 years the two that got me the hardest as comedies because I don't really I see all the strings hangover
00:35:32
Tropic Thunder those are two that caught me flat-footed and uh you were in which one I was in um
00:35:41
sorry it was in the hang on yeah so you go from comedians comedian people know you you're going along you've done a special uh live Purple Onion stand up
00:35:52
special yeah and then Todd Phillips calls and you go on what happens next are you are you the first choice for
00:35:59
that or do you know do you remember uh it's a real question I mean listen I've been a Fallout on every
00:36:05
movie I've ever done oh my God I don't know that's not that's not a mean question that's just like sometimes these movies come together and they go we got this one would be a good accent obviously Zach's great it's a funny part
00:36:17
to play and they let you do it seems like Todd who seems like a really funny cool guy let you do what
00:36:23
you do and well I think he I think he was doing I think he was going to Stand-Up clubs and I think that's what
00:36:31
he had told me and then that's where he knew me from because I don't know if I'd done much uh otherwise
00:36:38
to be seen on on screen but um so he asked me to audition I think I was living in Canada and I just I'm terrible I just don't like to audition I'm it's I've always been bad
00:36:53
at it I uh usually make I usually get I mean I was just I have so many stories about we all do but um could you tell us one of a really
00:37:05
well I mean I don't want to but there's just so many you know I just was so not into the process of it I mean the first time I ever got a laugh
00:37:18
in an audition was when I first auditioned for drama and they were laughing at me sometimes the problem is uh if you're a comedian
00:37:32
you read things and it feels sort of stiff because you're a bit uh quirky or charactery and so when you're reading super flat lines that are just written for a generic comedy they'll they'll
00:37:46
tweak them later if it's him or somebody but as is it's it's sometimes for your personality maybe it doesn't it's not
00:37:53
hilarious when you do it because it's so basic but if you brought your stuff to it then it's funny so maybe he saw if
00:37:59
you could bring your weirdness to it then it's great well I think also at that time I was a bit older and I think
00:38:05
I was kind of um not to be Cavalier about it but I think my attitude was well this is probably going to end soon meaning this Pursuit of whatever this is
00:38:18
oh I see I don't really care as much because I'll just kind of try to exit without caring if that makes any sense oh wait a minute so you were that you get the hangover you're
00:38:30
thinking this is pretty much a mic drop I'm out of here no meaning no I'm not gonna get this I'm not gonna get this I
00:38:37
will just I think my mindset then was you know I tried doing Show Business you know at that time I mean you know you
00:38:44
kind of beat yourself up sometimes and I didn't really know what I was doing and and I mean who does uh but uh but anyway
00:38:53
I flew down from Canada in auditioned and I think I remember leaving getting into my stretch Hummer so you were doing well I'm telling Sugar
00:39:04
Ray to scoot over oh God I laughed but I did a pilot with him 20 years ago um but then I we got you know I got the job and and you know then you do the the you
00:39:24
show up for work and you start acting in it and you I remember going to dinner with the the
00:39:29
other actors with Bradley and uh I forget the other names no it's only Bradley who gives a [ __ ] about the other guys Bradley Cooper
00:39:41
badly and added I think Ken and and and um we were all at dinner and I I said to
00:39:47
them movie seems good I've never had this feeling before um so I I felt there was a real kind of
00:40:00
energy on set there that was you know some sometimes that happens and it's not uh it doesn't translate to the screen there's great energy on set and everybody's like oh this is and but that
00:40:12
when Todd is a very good editor and a really good direct very good director that knows how to steer that stuff I'm
00:40:18
sure you sort of need all the components and you can lose it anywhere along the way but yeah if you do it you're doing like maybe you're doing extra takes
00:40:24
where you're just trying different jokes and screwing around for plus we all Remember The Hangover wasn't a huge
00:40:30
movie and it was probably not a big budget and no one you're not going into it going oh I just got the Avengers it's
00:40:35
like oh I just got a comedy it could go away it could be nothing but it turns it
00:40:41
blows up obviously into a huge thing so it would be probably even scarier to audition for something if you know it's
00:40:47
that big like people that are auditioning for the sequel are like holy [ __ ] this is a huge movie yeah I had to audition for the season you did
00:40:55
that's [Music] three with friends wow that's great I had this guy come up to me once and he goes hey are you an
00:41:10
actor I go yeah he goes are you the guy from Hangover 2 I don't even know how I answer I just I think I just walked away I didn't know what this
00:41:24
where's the baby now they're still standing like Todd [Laughter] they had a baby that sounds like Brody bro oh my God
00:41:38
Brody Stevens uh is a great uh comedian exactly very good friends I was friends with he toured with me for a while at
00:41:45
the very end and uh passed away and uh God I was just thinking today because you know I knew you were close to Brody
00:41:52
and uh so I was clicking from your stuff because I don't honestly I don't know who you are and um I was clicking from
00:41:58
you and then I'm jumping over to Brody's [ __ ] trying to remember all his jokes and it I just saw a clip of him
00:42:03
classic Brody not bombing but getting so mad at the crowd and the crowd's like we didn't do anything
00:42:10
they're just not laughing that much right and he's going arms cross negative and he was doing all his jokes I date
00:42:16
I'm dating a girl from Greece the movie She's 75. you know you know how many I was trying to think of all these jokes he has Dana I don't know if you knew him and everyone I remember we'd stand in the back and
00:42:28
laugh I uh that talk show on VH1 I was talking about earlier he was the warm-up guy yeah and uh I would like peek behind
00:42:35
the curtain to see what was going on and Brody just would be going whopper or Big Mac you make the call
00:42:43
that's actually probably pretty good I mean for a warm-up guy Just Energy right you know what he did it on our lights out show and he and I peek my head same thing and they go hey something's going
00:42:54
on up there in these guys you're negative you're negative you don't deserve David Spade he was in
00:43:00
Police Academy for he's from Michigan and he's not coming out until I give the green light and and I'm going what is why is he yelling at the crowd and there's the
00:43:11
crowd is like nine people you know and but he had so many goddamn [ __ ] one of my favorite moments with him oh God it's it's early on and we were hanging
00:43:21
out we were my apartment in Santa Monica and Margaret Trail was on television and we're just watching in silence I don't mean it like that but we're just
00:43:33
watching it and after a couple minutes Brody just yells at the TV not trying to be funny she had a sitcom why come me don't have one
00:43:47
why come me why come me you don't have one he answered his own question yeah he goes he goes I'm doing pretty well in Show Business I uh
00:43:59
it I I finally I'm finally able to take my mom out to lunch and pay for half right is that is I'm a professional Mangler
00:44:12
nightclub but I trubate on the ferris wheel at the Pomona County Fair so many jokes he was so funny but I'm saying him because he was in uh I think
00:44:23
you put him in one one or two things because he goes you know me I'm the guy from Hangover Hangover 2 due date cut
00:44:32
out of funny people yes yep yeah he uh yeah I think well Todd Todd Saul Brody Todd Phillips all Brody while I was doing shows at the old Largo uh so
00:44:44
that's why Brody's in those movies I didn't have anything to do with it um if I had something to do with it he
00:44:50
wouldn't have been in any of them Todd's got a good eye though yeah and I miss him so much I was missing him so much um David I may have told you this the other
00:45:01
day but um there wasn't a podcast so I'll say it again um but I was missing this this guy we're talking about Brody and he was known for alienating audiences that was one of the
00:45:14
reason I think Comics like his charms perversely is we would all rush out to see him yeah turn audiences away
00:45:25
we had a few of those in San Francisco and he's bombing in Montreal who used to have this
00:45:31
baseball team and blah blah blah and Brody just looks out at the audience while he's bombing and he yells out no
00:45:38
wonder the Expos left [Applause] [Laughter] he was a pitcher at ASU I think and he goes I threw 88 with movement
00:45:51
he would say that in the middle of his act too a very funny guy I don't I want to read all his jokes uh so hangover
00:45:56
worked out for you is that the end of that story yeah did you when that so that's the first
00:46:02
time you're getting actual extra extra money did you buy a rope or something what did you did you do anything with
00:46:08
what was that like when you first had extra extra money yeah I bought four elephants
00:46:15
um smart no I I mean I bought I went I bought a place I bought a place in North Carolina a farm I'm not a farm but a
00:46:22
place to try to be a nickel um but I don't live there anymore but yeah I uh we got that and then I you went home and bought them all
00:46:36
just a show off I uh I I don't remember I I got a lot of uh fur coats for all my
00:46:41
ants [Laughter] did you you like to farm right oh I mean my fantasy is to be a farmer one day but
00:47:01
I I look it's that's hard work it's like to for some entertainment guy to say that is kind of but that's what I I feel like if not not Farm it's more gardening
00:47:12
to be honest okay but around no Dana it's for my insta with gardening I like to work with my hands I masturbate ladies and gentlemen I um you got it
00:47:36
that's Brody again uh oh yeah he goes I did I've I've been doing porno I do a one-man scene on a yoga mat in Chatsworth I don't know let's talk about
00:47:50
baskets baskets was a great show I don't have to tell this crowd you don't have to tell this crowd Zach they know baskets that's it you only do cool stuff it
00:48:03
seems to me you do a lot of cool stuff uh cool stuff it seems like you do it on your own turn
00:48:10
like they let you do your thing which isn't always the case with everyone and it's sort of the dream for any comedian
00:48:17
like let me just do my own thing like curb is always an example of like that would be fun to do something like that where you can just do your own thing and
00:48:24
it's very very hard to do those things I mean people look at it and go that's such a great show or baskets but to
00:48:29
write it cast it well make it make sense all that stuff is exhausting yeah I mean there's a lot of thought that goes into it and sometimes you get um lucky and most of the time you get
00:48:41
unlucky uh but sometimes you get lucky with things kind of come to place I mean I
00:48:47
think that show uh if I could bore you with it a bit is a um it we were just trying to be I had not seen regular people on
00:48:57
television portrayed without I just wanted to ground the comedy so it should be in most Hollywood on them with not this I wanted to be Dusty and I wanted it to
00:49:10
be more real than I have seen especially the comedy world and I I asked John chrysal the director
00:49:17
of uh can you can you figure out this this this Dusty world I'm trying to tell you about in
00:49:24
this rodeo clown world so you know we did our research a little bit and started casting and writing it and uh yeah it's a show I'm um it was so fun to
00:49:36
work on and yeah it was a it was a lot of fun and a lot of work I was just thinking about uh Louis Anderson when I was talking about it and uh I just heard he died today
00:49:49
um ah you know he would have [ __ ] laughed yes every comedian laughs at any joke by that you know oh my God he Louie was
00:50:03
when did that strike you when did you figure that out I'm gonna have Louie play my mom um Louis CK and I were uh talk
00:50:11
all the Louise well there were two louies in this Louisiana Louis CK and I were talking about
00:50:17
um the mother to cast the mother and he was asking me what I was thinking about and
00:50:22
I said well oh I'd already called this British actress named Brenda blethan who I really really like uh uh but for some reason
00:50:34
um that didn't work out and um or she didn't get the email um there was just no you didn't get the email um so I was telling Louie I was
00:50:47
kind of imitating The Voice this is a story I've told many times but um and I was doing the voice and he looked at me and he goes like Louie Anderson's voice
00:50:59
and I said yeah and Louie goes should we call him and I went yeah and that was it wait and that was that
00:51:14
was there was this weird Louis had and I didn't know this but he had been channeling his mom
00:51:19
on stage for a long time yeah and that was kind of a luck that was the lucky part about it but I had always loved him I loved his vulnerability even even in
00:51:32
his standard you if you can observe these kind of things it's fun to kind of try to figure out and I thought
00:51:39
he can do it but not I don't want it drag right it has to be the first day they put a lot of makeup on them and I said can we get some of that off he's he's the part
00:51:51
so just you know we put a some wonderful costumes on him and the makeup was wonderful and Louie is you know I think
00:51:59
when you come from such a background like he did um yeah I think his uh tenderness
00:52:19
came from pain On Cue Jesus I told my I told my managers like if I say something cool someone room make sure you beep
00:52:31
something if I get choked up talking about Louie beep it so it breaks up the ice
00:52:44
it's a good audience but no I think Louis had this thing in him that was really could throw it out heartbreaking Pathos in his stand-up yes and a
00:52:56
brilliant stand-up and Storyteller but on set I would die laugh at work it was funny every second oh my God yeah God he just made he just was so great you know
00:53:08
I don't you probably knew Louie I I when I first got to town when I was 20 I was 20. uh this is at least eight years ago
00:53:15
I was um so I don't know where I I saw Louie somewhere and I didn't know him I was in the hallway at the Umbra but he was nice and and I was trying to audition at the
00:53:27
Improv or The Comedy Store those are the big ones to get in and uh that's 20 and I had okay act I had about you know
00:53:33
eight minutes and so he says why don't you audition for Mitzi and I go oh I don't even know how to do that and he said I'll bring you down so I went down there met him he
00:53:44
went and told Mitzi on like their audition night and I went in The Comedy Store right here uh did my did okay came
00:53:52
out in the sidewalk on Sunset just stood there and he kind of goes um she didn't like
00:54:01
I go ah it's tough man I auditioned there once and then that you have to go see Mitzi did you go over to her no he was a middleman I'll shoot him out he spared
00:54:15
me watching her go I'm sure she would have been rougher about it he was like yeah I auditioned and she said to me get
00:54:22
some puppets it's not bad advice i i i auditioned for her and nothing nothing happened you got you're in the main room next night yep
00:54:38
[Music] yeah there's nothing else nothing else to ask knows Fiona Apple check do you want to do something wait SNL We had asthma SNL remember
00:54:49
okay I watch both your monologues today ah I'd seen them before they had a big day I'm telling you I've been researching
00:55:02
for 11 hours no I Saturday Night Live 2010 2011. hosting both times yep and someone today mentioned you and
00:55:17
um Keenan Thompson's what's what's what's up with that what's up with that and you came out this guy with this long
00:55:23
flute in this weird jumpsuit yep and it's a very double-sided yeah does it guys remember next year's flute yeah you just came it had no lines you just came out played
00:55:34
yeah but it was something very indelible about that yeah I uh I remember that it
00:55:41
was uh I still have the job I have the jumpsuit it's in my closet uh I usually don't keep any of that stuff but I that I have it's quite it's comfortable I wear I wear it a lot in Canada why I'm
00:55:53
chopping wood um but uh yeah that's a that was a flute they I remember they had like a double Thing guitar and I was like I don't know
00:56:03
that seems like is there can you build a flute where the guy does this and uh yeah they did yeah that's the great thing about that show as you like it's like can you maybe get a prop like this
00:56:16
yeah sure sure yeah it's gonna do anything within 24 hours yeah and you did I read one maybe you were brought in as a guest writer somebody they said there was a Britney
00:56:26
Spears sketch that you pitched an idea with you and Will Ferrell yeah ten years before you were brought in as a guest
00:56:33
well I thought I was brought in as a cast member you were amazing they never tell you
00:56:41
what you brought no I couldn't figure it out there was a weekend uh I was like oh I don't they I guess I'm writing uh so I
00:56:48
wrote looking back I feel really bad about it but not that it was a there were two
00:56:54
sketches that I pitched to her and it was just she and I in this office alone and Britney Spears the first sketch was
00:57:09
Will Ferrell we were going to shrink him down to be The Bodyguard to her belly button
00:57:16
you love it love it right that sounds great that sounds fun that's great uh and I so that was basically what I said
00:57:23
to her [Laughter] I remember a tumbleweed going through the conversation on my back I mean not her fault and then
00:57:37
I thought at the time because she was so kind of popcorn pop sugary I said look I think would be funny if you're do a straight interview with something like entertainment but tonight
00:57:49
and you're just answering these banal questions and uh you happen to be bleeding from the
00:57:56
mouth [Laughter] I like that I like it too this sounds like I just remember she looked at me
00:58:10
and then I remember looking at the ground and the ground and I remember looking back up and we made eye contact and she goes yeah that's funny
00:58:29
I don't know I thought maybe it would be kind of a fun thing but uh you know it didn't work it didn't work Zach pop stars shouldn't really bleed on here
00:58:40
rule number five for you so you're monologue I mean this the the second one where you stripped your clothes off you had a little red jumpsuit on and then
00:58:51
you had a board with letters on it like well no no it's by uh well it's something I had been doing in my stand-up I mean in my late 30s I was
00:59:03
going around the country with the board with the board in a Little Orphan Annie dress
00:59:09
too oh yeah I have that was in your Club act oh well it would my I would at this
00:59:15
time I was kind of doing bigger your Club act kid you got your Club acting I was doing uh Uncle tampons comedy cave in Tampa oh God
00:59:27
no um yeah I I was doing you know shows and so I had that one under it was a thing it was something I liked doing and I was trying to be absurdist and
00:59:41
somewhat political uh at the same time back then uh and sometimes you know that the only way I felt like I could pull that off or at least to have a message or two was to do
00:59:54
something very weird and uh there were a couple of political jokes buried in that
00:59:59
that uh and then I would change it from time to time to time and I actually got uh someone tried to sue me because of what was on those flip charts years ago
01:00:10
really yeah so I I so I would perform as Little Orphan Annie and close out shows and by the time I had was ready to do Saturday Night Live I was I mean I think it was
01:00:23
39 dressed as little orphanage Junior in the country yeah much too old to be doing the other thing that was the um but
01:00:36
um they're like Jon Hamm did this last week you're like what I've been sitting on this I don't even
01:00:43
know you yeah that's uh yeah I remember that bit Yeah God Jesus it haunts me do you
01:00:49
remember the first time you met Lauren Michaels uh uh it doesn't have to any thoughts about
01:00:57
him uh uh no I don't remember the first time I mean no I do remember in his office yeah in his office when you know when you host you go and you go into that awkward meeting thing that is very
01:01:09
fun week you're excited you're coming off the hangover heat the minute you're hot you feel you're getting yourself getting less hot
01:01:21
Lauren has a lot of when you know you're hot you're cold anyway let's bring everyone in
01:01:28
they bring everyone in and they pitch all the ideas popcorn right yeah he has popcorn
01:01:33
all day long it's unsalted isn't it butter butter I've always liked butter he's an interesting person Jiffy Pop
01:01:46
s he never talks about it I don't think he knows I'm doing one it's so bad but Dana's he he asked me once on an airplane I've been doing it for years
01:01:58
behind the scenes but it was too embarrassed to do it in front of him so he asked me he said like um you know
01:02:04
when you do me like what do you do you know right and I balked at that moment you know but years later I was at a restaurant in with Lauren and his two
01:02:15
assistants and Rob Lowe in Santa Monica and he said you know do it for me so I started to do it and I said it was just him at the at the board on the Wednesday night picking the show and he would get
01:02:27
mad and go I still have no [ __ ] First Act and then he'd go into the bathroom and
01:02:33
coincidentally this is true story so he's he's doing that and then he tells me to tell the Paul McCartney story when
01:02:38
I met him at Lauren Michael's house so I'm doing pull like this and going on and on like that Lauren's looking up and
01:02:44
goes could be yes yes and I did an impressionist tap out and it's Paul and I'm going to do oh Paul was behind you and he knew he
01:02:55
was coming in I had it I I get tapped out I once I had John Travolta I was on stage in Denver and I'm you know these
01:03:01
guys are going crazy like that and then tap out it's John Travolta yeah it's an impressionist tap out but anyway um Lauren I think at this point gets it
01:03:13
everyone does it I think he's kind of likes it I believe don't you think it's compliment it's funny there's nothing
01:03:19
like we all love him I mean he's he's brilliant uh that Lauren his isms his his life little things marriage is a prison everyone's trying to escape into
01:03:35
that's good I mean who and he's got tons of those he talked about funny people were going to live are you going to be
01:03:41
around funny people because there's like only 900 of us on the planet at any given time and 900 was like the perfect
01:03:47
number like really is that about it like 20 in Poland and like 18 and you know there's only 900 funny people on the
01:03:55
planet feels a little heavy for people but Lauren you he's a a little heavy maybe maybe low teens um so you do the hangover yeah you do
01:04:08
baskets this is a big summary big summary I have some basic questions when you give to charity is it for ego fulfillment or to help people [Laughter]
01:04:25
it's a good one yeah I think I think if you're if people don't know that you've given then you haven't given yeah finally
01:04:40
or at least that's the motto of this [ __ ] town when I do the wire I call the Press
01:04:46
people the exact same time I go this wire is not going out without Yahoo news knowing
01:04:52
about to put us all on one email the best thing about being famous is a good table at Soup Plantation [Laughter]
01:05:04
[Applause] my best feature is here hangover feature film no no I thought it was like looks that's what I that's okay yes
01:05:30
I I I I have okay I have good legs would you describe yourself as an empath or a
01:05:36
narcissist there's no middle ground at all I don't know I don't even know what an empath is not really like they feel feeling no idea okay I'm
01:05:48
that one yeah you are so totally that one I am dick can I tell you David said that I was driving here tonight and uh David a few years ago we a bunch of people were in
01:06:00
the um in the Green Room Green Room yeah and the wait and uh we're all just talking about stand up and when where we used to do it how we the old days and David just goes
01:06:14
when I first started doing stand-up as everybody leaves the room it's hard to go it makes all the time I think about it all the time dude you were he was here two weeks
01:06:28
ago and I talked to him for three minutes and I laughed so hard I go I can't talk to you anymore because I knew we were doing this and I go God he makes
01:06:34
me laugh so [ __ ] hard and then I came over here because you're one of my favorites and I start to watch his stand up and I go oh no and then I had to go
01:06:40
after you and everyone's like oh that's not true that's a different interpretation of how
01:06:47
I felt after that show oh really you handed me my hat like that was a tough set well I do that to get in your head
01:06:58
no I so I grabbed it and he was leaving and I went back and uh some Davy Crocker hey there's like some uh and uh I gave it to
01:07:10
him and I was like Hey [ __ ] that crowd man that's a good one and then they go huh
01:07:17
that's that's the worst thing you can hear when you get out oh [ __ ] that crowd they
01:07:24
don't get you that's the worst oh my God God damn it okay well let's let him wrap up he's been good he's putting his hours how how what so this is a podcast I
01:07:36
don't know we we'll we'll edit it we'll this will be six minutes you gotta be how like how what you sit through it and
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you edit it and no no we don't have anything how long are the how long are they seven hours no they're usually
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about an hour-ish okay so we just went over an hour okay yeah are you angling for more money or yeah are you amazed how disorganized and amateurish we are well I thought they
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were I know I I actually I the fact that you guys and I saw you guys get these chairs out of your cars
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we're on a budget flanny is tight so I was impressed with that very impressed no I I like it I'm a little
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nervous talking to Zach it's fun uh it's great to see you I don't see you much um always fun to see you on stuff and uh
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it's great and no [ __ ] we think here we we butter our people up but we're sincere
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you know you're you're one of the the Mount Rushmore and all-time comedians is so funny of Our Generation yeah very
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interesting dude always interesting I put I I draw a line but seeing you and Will Ferrell only in the sense of the commitment because will said no one will ever out commit me yeah but you commit
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no one can out commit you well will is Will is one of those guys Jesus that the way he and so forth goes in and even does like side bits when you're
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at work that he I can't he would he that man is I remember when we were working together
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at the time it was the um terrible yeah the news was the terrible uh Penn State uh yeah
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and Will's a big sports fan and he was following that stuff and I uh at that time I was working on getting uh the statue of uh who's Penn State's coach Paterno Paterno
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I wanted to put that Will's yard I'm a big molester fan I was following that case too
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we're gonna it's gonna be a very interesting podcast okay you're revealing yourself that's good I know
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supposed to be authentic I know these are all just I don't know we're at Largo it doesn't matter
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but thanks thanks Dana thanks David thanks Zach thank you very much thanks to the audience thank you
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