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Sarah Silverman | Full Episode | Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade

October 07, 2022 / 01:11:28

This episode features comedians Dana Carvey and David Spade discussing their experiences in comedy, with special guest Sarah Silverman. Topics include their time on Saturday Night Live, relationships, and the challenges of being in the public eye.

Carvey and Spade share humorous anecdotes about their interactions with fans and the paparazzi. They recount moments from their careers, including Carvey's experiences with SNL and Spade's reflections on fame.

Sarah Silverman joins the conversation, discussing her own career and experiences in comedy. She shares insights about her podcast and the evolution of her comedy style.

The trio discusses the pressures of performing and the importance of authenticity in comedy. They touch on personal experiences, including relationships and the impact of their pasts on their current lives.

Throughout the episode, the comedians share laughs and stories, creating a lighthearted atmosphere while addressing deeper themes of personal growth and the nature of comedy.

TLDR

Dana Carvey and David Spade chat with Sarah Silverman about comedy, fame, and personal experiences in a humorous and candid conversation.

Episode

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hey guys it's Spade half of me and Carvey and just want to let you know at the end of this episode after the
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credits we are going to answer some of the questions we asked you to ask us so if you stick around you're going to hear
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them and if you want to ask us a question you go to fly on the wall at cadence13.com that's an email address
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people get with the program you can email us at fly on the wall at cadence13.com ask anything to Dana and
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ask me like really good ones all right so get your questions listen to the questions and ask your questions now
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here's the show hey chill I'll be there in a second I can talk to my friend here that's a
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little bird number one it's a Tony Bird come on ah scare me you can't you can't
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I'm young I'm strong come on here's a deal you're a little bird you're a little bird Jill I'll be
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there in a second come on oh he fluffed what should I do with the food no he flew away that was him all right there
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you go that one and how about this scene no here's this for Sarah uh okay I went
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to the uh Sarah sometimes does you know dirtier stuff she's hysterical by the
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way Sarah Silverman were old friends from SNL was when I first met her so here's one so I went to the
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to actually get my physical and he goes you know at the end it's sort of in the
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air that he's going to go up your behind you know I mean like at a yearly physical they're going up your butt so
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right I asked the guy to do it when he first walks in can we get that out of the way and goes no I like to save it
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and I go really I mean save it he goes give me something look forward to it this guy this guy as soon as that is
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done and I don't like gross humor he takes the glove off he starts walking away throws in the trash can and then
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Sprints out of the office like as if it's some weird what if he goes I just want to get this over with so he goes
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let's just do it right now and he doesn't I I'm not even putting the glove
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on let's just do this and you're like well wait a second wait a second all
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right well these are the worst jokes in the world but this one always made me last the last thing you want to hear
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during that type of exam look ma no hands oh yeah I'm sorry that's just because his wieners
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Greg is having gyrations our producer Greg Holtzman at Greg holtzman.com Heather you laugh at my stuff he'll
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laugh at Dana's well look ma no hands I'm sorry so here's mine This is
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actually a true story I'm going to start with putting and then we'll say here Sarah the he says I have
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to put a finger up here buttocks and I said feel free I know it's part of the
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drill so he goes he goes he got one in there and he goes I go actually try one more and he does two and then I go just
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for fun try to put your whole hand in there and he goes okay it's in there and
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I go now put the other one he puts the other one I go now clap and he goes I can't I go tight right
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that's a great one tight right well when I my last exam the guy tries to make
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jokes around that he goes did you hear about the guy who had five penises his pants fit him like a glove
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anyway drop them I know my guy works in bits I go just do doctor stuff just do doctor so I don't
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do proctologists we love Sarah because uh she's a hilarious comic she I see her
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out and she always has parties on a roof we'll talk about that and Sarah Silverman is uh has a great voice
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because I do voices I do like her voice she has a sort of it's all it's almost like it's a
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sneakily seductive uh uh Cadence when she does stand up you know how she kind of moves her shoulders
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and her arms I want to do jokes I remember verse two her and see if how close I get him try one oh oh you don't
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have one no when she goes when she comes out and there's a song on and she goes
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this is such a good song she goes this song is so good I remember I got gang raped for this song in an alley yeah and
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I still love the song that's a testament to how great that is she's canceled and now we're canceled oh
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she oh we have to ask her because some guy in a porn was whacking off and when he [ __ ] he goes Sarah Silverman she's
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had a lot of stuff about she's got a lot of fans so we'll talk about that Sarah
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Silverman has a great sense of humor I hung out with her at the 40th at the party the 40th anniversary of SNL
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and my running gag that night was just checking my phone and saying you're trending right now so that was that was
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my runner back then it was a while back that's pretty good especially back then
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at the 40th because things were just beginning to Trend it was just full of stars I have a picture with her from
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that um all right let's hear what she has to say action Sarah [Music] hello hello
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would you hey I know it wasn't official but would you be on our podcast sure oh great thank you come on when you
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want to do it now is that her she's a black screen where am I how come you can't see me are you Baby Jessica in the
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world oh [ __ ] wait let me put it I have to put it on uh videos I spent 10 minutes fluffing my hair around so you'd
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be impressed you know it's so good I thank you look it's seriously look at
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Sarah's Hometown why am I so loved I don't know it's fun but I I find it
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quite disturbing oh Sarah Silverman is on our podcast yeah it's not video so I'm not going to describe your
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Mansion um Sarah we we were just talking about just quickly about Ben Simmons and I
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forgot you play ball Ben Simmons is a basketball player and uh we were saying that I was gonna tell
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Dana that Sarah's a baller and he used to play at shanlings oh yes and I had
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played a few times but I think you're better than me and that yeah okay don't
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question it just say oh did you I just didn't know you please you guys I'm a
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[ __ ] athlete I know so I'm a professional cheerleader they would throw him up and then he
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would catch him right remember in high school I was the uh yeah so Sarah walk us through uh let's go
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through Dana and I are this is your life no I've got a lot of questions no first
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let me answer she played basketball and she was good at it and it was with Shannon and all these comedians it was
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kind of fun yeah I haven't played basketball since the pandemic and I am I and now I'm like
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um I think I'm should be done because uh in general is just not good for you when
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you're older I had switched from I said I can only play inside because of my news so I did that for a
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long time but then I now I just I don't know I feel like I'm gonna really hurt
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myself do your knees know the difference yeah because when you play outside like
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on a playground or something it's there's it's um you know it's not um
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it's just pavement like oh okay you wouldn't understand it's an athletic
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thing but so you guys are always part of the cool group David you guys are part you're
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cool celebrities both of you I just put it together listen Sarah I have a question I get two in a row Dana by the
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way me and Dan do not know David is fine I love your show and it's so interesting
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and now the pressure's on because I feel like oh God I don't but um but I was
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talking to I don't know if either of you remember um Jonathan Katz the great Jonathan Katz
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yes oh comedian yeah yeah Dr Katz professional therapist yeah yeah yeah of course 100 yeah I was talking to him
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yesterday and um he was like have you heard the fly on the wall podcast with Dana Carvey and David Spade and was like
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I'm gonna be on it tomorrow oh geez now I'm feeling the pressure what is
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Jonathan hearing that we're not because we usually kind of take a nap after this
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and sort of reassess life and interesting well you know Dana I had some lady in front of uh Jersey Mike's yesterday say
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she saw it you know what's funny or she heard it but you know what's funny Sarah
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have you ever done this someone goes like uh hey weren't you on SNL I go thank you
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and she and there was no compliment I just get nervous and say thanks and then silence I saw I saw you on
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David Letterman and then nothing that's the most [ __ ] up I saw you do stand up and then silence my uh waiter
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at this place I eat he's German and he goes hey there was a there's a picture
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of me of making about the IHOP on Holloway no I wish that's where I used to go every single day for two years uh
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this is another one and again the waiter goes because I was kissing a girl in a pool and I don't know something I took a
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picture a couple years ago and he goes hey and it was in all these websites because she was
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marginally attractive and I'm sickening so that's always a story so they go uh
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we gotta get him to a therapist I see him he's talking about my friend David
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like that no I like me so I said uh I could understand anyway so the joke was he came up and he goes hey little pool
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party this weekend and I go and he goes a little fun in the sun huh a little uh splashing around and I go right and he
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goes I saw pictures of you and I go yeah I know I know is this your German accent
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yeah maybe it's not Germany okay slightly slightly maybe it's the valley
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so then he goes uh he goes hey and then he goes but then they showed you getting
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on the water and you look fat why do you want them to have pictures like that I go why do I want the paparazzi do
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[ __ ] get out Works he goes you look bad and some of the pictures I was like well I can't believe it I go do not you
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are from somewhere else because you think I picked they take 100 pictures and they have a Jeweler's Loop and they
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find the grossest one and go this is the one we're going with run with it so this is a random fan saying this too
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it's like a friend fan but he's just he's very I think he was half being
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funny but he half didn't know that I don't sit with the uh editorial at Daily
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Mail and go I think I look better in this one they're like you know what great if you look better and you like it
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the Daily Mail fills so many pages with so much minutiae yeah it's crack cocaine you you go you're on
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that thing and man the little pictures on the side and that guy's in a bathing
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suit and they're over there it's so exciting there's people in there that I
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don't even know and I go why am I and they're there every day and I go are
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they paying to be on here because there's no reason we should be knowing anything it's so I you know I really
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it's not like I'm Britney Spears or something it already beats I was like I
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don't know if they're around I never seen them pop up unless I want to like
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Google myself like I was you know like like Sasha baronco and we were meeting for dinner in New York and he's like
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well if we go here will there be Paparazzi I go I don't know do you read US Weekly
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like how is that a part of your life but um yeah it's something scandalous we're
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just getting some noshed more photographed right if you're at a beach in a bikini or you're on a yacht
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off Italy you know that it got telephotos on you right I mean I have friends from New Hampshire
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like do you call them and tell them where you'll be and like why would I call them when I'm walking uphill in
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sweat walking my dog looking like 18 zits on my I was wearing a hat and sunglasses
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stuff for a while I don't know I was allergic to fame and I think at one point my wife said I don't think
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anyone's paying attention Okay it is true it is true nor should they but yeah but there are the dirty
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secret Dana is that there are probably 50 percent of that is called in now it's places that you never see Paparazzi
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there's a couple places you kind of know and then it's like they're coming out of
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the Rite Aid and uh you know Topanga and it's like we got them and I'm like let's
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see how to call someone have them drive out there get them and then either they split the money if they're a bigger star
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but if they're not a big star they just hope they sell it somewhere they just
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hope they get it out there well I remember one time I picked my mom up years ago at the airport she was coming
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to visit and you know I was just and you know at the airport you just get like sloppy thirds
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or what like there's there for someone big and then they just see and then the
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airlines you know like so I pick up my mom and there's and there's like TMZ or Paparazzi just
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walking the whole way to the car and I'm just you know you know you're it's like
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stuff with your mom when you're a daughter it's there's so much you know
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and she's just loving it and talking to them and stopping and talking to them
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and I'm like Mom let's you know and if I you know you can't like be upset in
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front of yourself let's just get in the car you know you know and she's driving
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me insane for because she loves it so much and we get in the car and she goes well
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I don't know why you're in such a rush I mean they're just doing their job I said
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Mom the greatest thing that could happen to them is that we but we get into a car
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accident and die right now and they have the last pictures of you know like that
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yeah that's true it's not beautiful like it's yeah that's so cute yeah if it's
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outrageous you know I don't care but it's just like Dana one time I walk in a
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restaurant and there's all these like super famous people and it's you know
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obviously they told me later women sell better you know because they get in all the magazines and what they're wearing a
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lot so I walk in and I go nothing guys and then he does it from the waist he he has his camera and just from his waist
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goes yes that's two flashes and I go you don't even lift it up to your eye and look
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through it he goes now I know what I'm doing I go well I better see that somewhere oh
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we're sad little celebrities I remember Jimmy Kimmel um he he said he's actually overheard like his show
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had just started and but he was he was talk so it just started and he got like Paparazzi and then he walked
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Pat around the corner and walked past the same guy that took his picture and he was on the phone and he overheard him
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go like man that's really slow day it's so it's such a they always check
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you to remind you what level you are in the business so sickening do your feelings get hurt easily in Show
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Business Sarah you feel you're tougher than you should be I think so really anymore I still you know like I get
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fired from things or unhired from things and I I don't think it's you personally
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I get I got hired the the this writer director wrote this series that's coming
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out on a streaming platform and nights in general right her you know he emailed me said will you play this role it's a
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rabbi and it's like a drama you know and I was like yeah that's cool you know
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it's like this you know there's like scenes under a water and it's it's like
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this futuristic whatever nice and it has a whole she's in other episodes but then
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she has like one whole episode and I was like great and I'm you know I have the
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script and I'm there's dates and everything and then he emails me back and he said Sarah I'm
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so horrified the something plus people um said no and I I didn't know that was
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even a thing like I thought I could hire anyone I wanted but they said no then I
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go don't worry you know for in a way it like feels like relief like you know
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when people cancel plans and you're like ah you know like oh yeah it's relief
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because I you know of course I stress about it because I want to do a good job but I mean part of me is like
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I I don't understand why I'm a part of me does understand why so I just you
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know what do you like so do you get when you get hired for corporate gigs or anything do you have to tell them ahead
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of time does does your do they know what they're getting sometimes or do you
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adapt to a situation because with me sometimes they oh yeah they know what they're getting right so they go they
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think they know what they want yeah yeah I mean there's definitely a time where I
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would have my manager like when I did the Ted Talk that they then wouldn't post
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um what that's right manager called back three different times and say she just
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wants to make sure you because she loves TED talks and she you know I always watch them with my mom and
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she just wants to make sure you know what she is and what she does and I really in Earnest like planned the whole
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18 minutes I was so excited and it did well and the crowd loved it but yeah they wouldn't post it for many
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years and you can I ask why I mean they why why did they not want to post it I don't know but it was a whole long drama
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where the the head of the TED Talks Ted surrender who had called and like reassured me we want you it's about all
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different voices oh my gosh like that was awful and I was just like covering their ass
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yeah it was so shitty he's apologized many times since over the years because
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uh you know I but I you know you when you mess with the comedian it's hard because
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then I was like talked about it on like Real Time with Bill Martin this was like
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yeah you know it like it murdered him and and um he called my managers like could we have
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a truce you know sure of course yeah you know I I did it in such Earnest and then like
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yeah I mean I yeah sometimes someone will tell you out of corporate data CEO or something oh yeah you go Blue Man Go
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kid you know say [ __ ] whatever you want you're like well okay I don't even use
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[ __ ] that much but I dropped a few and then the booker is kind of like not good
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man not good you know I go but the CEO told me to do it they're like that guy didn't even work
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there I've had people come backstage and go just [ __ ] around and I go what do you
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do here he goes oh I'm friends with the guy that booked you I'm like oh well I
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don't know if I'm going to be going by you because you're leaving right after
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and then I have to deal with they don't want to pay you I mean yeah I don't want
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to disrespect anyone like those corporate gigs are like you know they suck and I appreciate them so much
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because they're just like it's like how famous people used to do commercials in
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Japan like it's just this hidden thing where you make money you know you make
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more than a regular gig like three times you could do is like a c plus then you walk out of there so happy yeah and they
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go oh we want you to be crazy and then they're like you know that when you talk
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about coming in God's mouth or something I know you know a bit on that too I got
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one of those coming [Music] okay go ahead ask her something good Dana um I look at your stuff today I saw you on
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Conan in 93 . oh my God one thing that hit me is like you're like this you were so cute and so sweet and
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innocent it was like it really was Charming but you were like 21 or two you started stand up at 17. So within four
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years you're on television that's pretty good how did you like what how did how did
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you get that good that fast a lot of people takes 10 years were you headlining clubs when you went on Conan
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or no no you they just saw you at the Improv and set spots around town okay but I yeah I got you know I'm from New
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Hampshire so but like I went to this High School where they had assemblies and they'd let me do like three minutes
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you know at assemblies and stuff or like my math teacher would let me tell like one joke at the beginning of class and
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then I had to be quiet and that was our deal but um and then I but when I moved to New
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York I I went to NYU and I just went for one year because I I've always been a very good student
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I've never not done my homework you know but then I was working at a comedy club
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passing out flyers from like 4 P.M to uh 2 A.M every day and then going to classes and I was sleeping through my
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classes and it I'm not like that student like I was like pinching myself trying
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to stay awake I couldn't keep my eyes open and I so I my dad said if you quit college I'll pay your like rent and
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utilities like 300 450 for the next three years like it's your sophomore junior senior year and then you're on
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your own so it was a great deal because I did steal classes because I had all these
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like numbnuts friends that were like rich and going to NYU and didn't even want to go to classes you know so but um
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then I could just really focus on stand up and then by the time I would have been us would have graduated I was
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working with you on Saturday Night Live but you know I mean I was only there one
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year and then I got fired and then for a while I didn't know if I was in show
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business anymore were you kind of like Woody Allen Woody Allen Steven Wright sort of influenced
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in the early days or who was who were you kind of looking up to as a stand-up when you started I mean Steve Martin was
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my or Steve Martin well I don't you know like I yeah it's funny because in my the
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house I grew up in my room was like the attic and uh on the ceiling and pencil I
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wrote I love Steve Martin with the heart around it and uh it always was there and
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now then my mom died and my we my sister sold the house and they the Realtors uh came to one of
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my shows in Boston and brought me a picture they redid the whole house but they saved that one square ceiling so
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it's still there wow he was a big one for me too I knew all the albums it was
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the first thing I was memorizing oh my God I I just love them so much and but I bet who I was I imitated so all the
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people influenced around me at the beginning before dice you remind me of dice when I see my early stuff like they
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talked like this today I'm just really earliest and you know the great one-liners
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great one-liners though which I can't write so when someone writes a great one-liner you know like Woody Allen or
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Steven Wright those two and you could yeah that skill set so yeah my mom had a Woody Allen double album that where he's
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at like a nightclub you know it's just like this watch is very special to me my
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uncle on his deathbed sold me this one yeah it's all that misdirection yeah sure you know oh so they saw you have
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you done any gigs like when I was doing stand-up I had only been I only got to New York once at my friend hired me to
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open for her company at something open for Ray Charles at their it was a corporate gig I actually I got 1500
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bucks I bought miserably but I had never even been to New York and then I went back and then by the time I got SNL I'd
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really maybe only been there twice were you ever going out west and doing gigs or everything's pretty much back east in
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stand up right no I had done um no I had done two things in Los Angeles I did comic strip live and evening Club so
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they wanted that tape you know yeah you saw that and it was it Marcy or who brought you in to see Lauren or did
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they just call you um Marcy Klein or Marcy Klein I'm but I met with Lauren and Jim Downey in uh in
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L.A I've met with Lauren in LA because he was at Paramount and and uh I remember I just read like
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Saturday night so I just like I went into the meeting with Lauren and just asked him a million questions you know
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and I feel like that was like a good move because he's a rock Contour you know yeah sure and um oh you read the
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book Chevy was always like that you know I I remember I asked to keep I go like why are you you're a performer like why
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didn't you don't like you oh but um you know like so but and then they invited me to the Coneheads Premiere
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nice and that's when they found out I got I know hired as a writer oh I was there I was there and you know there
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weren't phones or anything so I was like I just went to the bathroom and sat in a
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stall and was like oh I just wouldn't call my mom you know yeah and you uh got so they told you at
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the corners Premiere and then you didn't know what to do with that you're like I
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can't focus on this stupid movie wow so what did you so your first week there I mean who did you hook up with I
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mean did you have friends right away or someone you knew from stand up or were you like alone with David
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and Jay Moore too and stand up I was hired too who I loved but I know him well and we you know I got to know
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him there so you came in with three other newbies right so four of you that were coming in yeah but I was the first
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day Lauren like matched me up with these three writers who were also my age and new Dave Mandel yeah Lou Morton
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Steve luckner who's become like a right-wing he found his little niche and uh you know look you're right your
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business doesn't give you what you feel you have earned because you went to the
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Harper Lampoon it can make you bitter and then you go oh right she finds me real funny but
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um you know where the love is I'm fascinated how do you spell that Steve oh I know but anyway they he said no you
00:27:02
all hanging out you're all you're all 22 and you know and they're all from
00:27:05
Harvard and we spent the whole day together we went to like a cat the cafeteria which I
00:27:11
don't think I ever went to again and and at the end of the whole day of hanging
00:27:15
out I remember one of the most like so you're what are you like a typist they thought I was one of the typists
00:27:23
and I was just like no I'm a writer like you you [ __ ] [ __ ] wow what they don't realize there was like a
00:27:32
madman room where there was four girls typing the sketches for you yeah I mean computers existed but not there it was
00:27:40
like we you rode in longhand on yeah and it looked crazy and I can't believe
00:27:45
anyone can follow it and then these like genius typists in a real typist Claire like an army yeah they go through Ellie
00:27:53
Claire uh I remember writing on those uh legal pads because you just had like a wooden desk and a legal pad and they're
00:27:58
like okay see it read through and you go what am I doing here I don't even know
00:28:02
how to write a sketch I don't know anything and you gotta figure as you go I guess Dana was gone when you got there
00:28:07
yeah he had just left and I remember you I saw you you came back one day and you came down like an
00:28:15
elevator I had never seen before and got off the Vietnam I saw you walk with a few people and I was like really
00:28:22
I can't secret elevator he came back for a victory I was I still no one tells you
00:28:26
your way around no one tells you how things work no like I remember I got my first
00:28:32
sketch that I had written by myself on and I was so excited John Malkovich was the host
00:28:37
and it went great in dress rehearsal and then this was my first time like having
00:28:43
something so then we're all sitting like on the floor in Lauren's office after
00:28:47
dress and I remember I was on the floor and Malkovich was sitting in a chair like
00:28:53
next to me high up and he looks down he goes I'm so sorry I I really messed up a
00:28:58
line and dress and I go don't worry about it you'll you'll get it on the air
00:29:01
it'll be great and Mike Myers goes it's got look it's on the left side about the
00:29:07
line it's like shut up it's cut you know I have a show idea like I I just no one
00:29:12
tells you you just you're thrown in you know like right you walk in after dress
00:29:17
and they'd pick the for the audience they picked the sketches while you sweat
00:29:21
it out outside the door and then they finally open and go you can go in and then you walk in and you immediately
00:29:27
look at the wall and like three sketches are moved out like they got caught maybe
00:29:31
an updated piece I know what I'm saying that's how I learned that right so you
00:29:35
sit down and then and then you go oh look behind you Sarah it's cut no one ever goes here's how it works you walk
00:29:41
in you look and then you still try to put on a brave face even though you're
00:29:45
not gonna be in the show and so you just sit on the floor while they do a whole meeting and all you can
00:29:50
think of is I'm not even in this one you know I I was like I enjoy being oh I was not coming back so I'm ready
00:30:01
for the next season I'm thinking like this is gonna be my idea you know what I never
00:30:09
I'm getting fired like even still and I still do you know I do all the time you
00:30:14
know I get tired a lot but I still get fired from this you know and uh like before anything that happens but yeah I
00:30:20
was I was yeah I had never occurred to me you know you're not a big compromiser it doesn't
00:30:26
seem so you do your act and I've seen you recently even go on and I always just like to sit back and watch and see
00:30:33
what you're coming up with um and it's always fun to see that you're still you still try you still
00:30:39
work hard I do the same thing when I do stand up I still like it I still try it's fine let me get it back up there
00:30:44
and I like when you crawl on the piano I like when you uh you just have your own
00:30:48
unique thing and then your jokes are always so clever I go goddamn but at least it's not like oh this is this type
00:30:58
of comedian that everyone's doing you're always got your angle and that's why
00:31:02
when people might fire you it's it's in a weird way a compliment maybe one
00:31:07
percent a comma but um that they go this she's just thinking out of the box which
00:31:13
is what you want from someone but they don't really handle it well they go no
00:31:16
no we want the regular stuff you come off so confident Sarah I just wonder if do you have situations coming up or in
00:31:23
stand up sometimes like me I just go mayday mayday I must kill desperate eyes you know not gonna do it you know but
00:31:31
you always seem you know what I mean just like well that's better but you seem Serene and confident it's very
00:31:37
pleasant to watch and I think part of the reason your specials were so well received is because that you're not
00:31:45
pushing ever you're letting the audience come to you I mean is that intentional
00:31:49
it's just your nature or because you do seem so calm and confident doing I don't really think about I don't
00:31:56
feel that way you know but I definitely have learned from so many people like when you said
00:32:02
that it makes me think of I remember seeing Chris Rock at the comic strip years ago and it was before he was who
00:32:13
he is now like pacing and louder and like you know he hadn't everyone changes
00:32:18
and grows and you know but he was quiet on stage and he'd go on and like the
00:32:24
comic strip was like it's like a zoo like people are the audiences are crazy
00:32:28
you know yeah and he he would just um just start and and not be loud to get the audience to hear him so it was like
00:32:41
there was no desperation and if they if the audience missed the first two or three jokes that's their problem and so
00:32:48
they all got quiet and leaned in and I go I noticed it you know I was like oh wow he's so much more powerful being
00:32:56
quiet than going like you know I would be like hey everyone um um dogs are funny
00:33:03
and that's like what a teacher would do like it and it's it's it you can it's
00:33:08
sweaty like there's you an audience can they don't no they couldn't probably
00:33:13
articulate this but like an audience can smell desperation you know right it doesn't help you to like you've got to
00:33:21
get yourself in a place where you're like all right enough for everyone but uh the last thing I always say right
00:33:27
before I got if I remember to remember it is have fun and I remember telling John lovitzack he credits me with
00:33:34
coaching him but I only gave him a couple tips but it's very sweet about him I said John remember you got to have
00:33:38
fun right before you go out thank you for saying that it saved me so much time you know and the other thing was there's
00:33:45
a huge difference to remember that massive you can forget in a second and then you're five minutes in and you
00:33:51
realize I'm not having fun right now what what happen you know because you got it they pick it up but
00:33:57
um John also they're honest they also like appreciate that like I I've got I feel
00:34:05
like there have been a few times where I'm like for some reason or whatever's
00:34:08
going on in my life and I'm not a big crier I was like sobbing that day and thinking like and then like thinking
00:34:15
about how of a spot that night just being like I don't feel funny you know like nothing's funny and those are all
00:34:22
these nights I have good do you you know what I mean like you're always surprised
00:34:25
that you have a good set that night because there's something like cathartic
00:34:29
comes out or I don't know it's like when you're sick and you got to do a set and
00:34:34
then you have a great set because you go I just got to do the set I don't have to
00:34:37
kill or not kill there's no pressure I'm just lucky I'm here I have bronchitis
00:34:41
you know so yes but oh Sarah I got a question when you go up sometimes Dana she brings a.m that might be an issue
00:34:48
for you too later what did I do hmm you did interrupt Dana I did but I thought he was finished with his where we like
00:34:56
to interrupt each other we feel it's a good good energy David okay David go ahead my question is
00:35:03
David Spade because he just made me think of this but we we do it all the time um you have sometimes a notebook when
00:35:09
you go up or a pad you know and and do you think sometimes it puts less pressure on jokes because I sometimes
00:35:18
rarely but because I want to read it I want to get it right like I'll just go
00:35:22
hey I'm going to do this and it it's almost funnier to them that I have no belief in it sort of and
00:35:29
then later I do without it it doesn't work as well brain damage from uh so much like marijuana use or I don't
00:35:43
know like I feel like I'm getting like early I'm so terrified of getting
00:35:47
dementia but I so I you know and I want to just be able to be loose but I I can't be loose if I'm like reaching for
00:35:56
like you know what I mean at a certain point when you're on the road you remember everything but but I do concede
00:36:02
that having a notebook gets you a lot of um because they feel like you're working on
00:36:12
stuff that it has if they have a it's the jokes have a feeling of immediacy that give them a lot more credit for the
00:36:20
audience when it's something like oh yeah I'm looking at my notebook but I do know
00:36:25
this works you know yeah so it sometimes I don't know but like you know but when
00:36:31
but when you're trying new things they always give you like 10 times more leeway you know well I think wasn't it
00:36:38
called the alt comedy you know in Largo where you would comment on your at comment you know be very open you know
00:36:45
the first time I played in the first couple times I felt very uncomfortable because I was like a road comic from the
00:36:50
80s and then then I finally I just had Nick Kroll interview me or anything where I'd be tipped off just doing bits
00:36:59
and so I think that you're kind of one of the you know the the leaders of that
00:37:04
movement in a way that authenticity or at least that's a Vibe I get you know
00:37:08
the audience feels like you're being very very real with them and not just doing bits well I always think like it's
00:37:14
funny when either of you guys are like nervous at Largo because like you kill that Largo they love comedy they're like
00:37:21
the great thing about the audience there is they're they're just huge comedy fans
00:37:26
they just want to like drink you up however you want to serve it you know but it's like just because like what you
00:37:32
do works on the road doesn't mean it won't kill at Largo like it has to be
00:37:36
some experimental like anti-comedy thing or it not at all like you know sometimes
00:37:42
sometimes your heroes are in the wings like Martin Short is there or Bill Hader is going to watch me do stand up people
00:37:48
I really admire and they kind of see how they know how the rabbit gets out of the
00:37:52
Hat because you're sort of working so I feel like in that situation it's better
00:37:56
to have loose notes here's what happened to me today and go with it but um I like
00:38:01
that style so that's what I do now but not at a corporate date [Music] Flanagan's coming over at 12 30. that's
00:38:13
the guy from Largo he runs Largo yeah flanny I heard you guys talking about him yeah
00:38:19
he's he's as good as they come on SNL would you change anything when you were
00:38:25
there because you only did a year you didn't have a prep because you remember
00:38:27
I think I thought I was coming back too uh was there a thing you could have done
00:38:33
while you were there or is it just the way it was going to be I mean I yeah I think it's just the way it was
00:38:38
going to be I did the best I could for my age and my experience you know like I know you're so young very young did you
00:38:45
do any update features because it seems like if you're coming in there and you're not acclimating because that's
00:38:50
like stand up in a way I did one update and but it was an update that like I had
00:38:58
to submit and submit like first it was in dress and then it got cut and then like you know people said like you can
00:39:06
resubmit it or whatever and then I remember Rob Schneider going like I can't believe you're shoving that update
00:39:10
because she's on our boots again and I was like my heart just like went in my
00:39:15
stomach you know like what are you doing they don't want that come on gotta be
00:39:20
original it's got a stink on it it's true and I wasn't I was a kid and I felt
00:39:26
like I was working with grown-ups and then I felt like these grown-ups can be still me like I didn't know grown-ups
00:39:35
were that way you know because I had only been known grown-ups to be like friends parents
00:39:40
like like um colleagues you know if I got on that show at age 22 I would I never would have lasted I I would not
00:39:49
have had the confidence or the experience to do it at that age you know Eddie Murphy did it he was amazing at
00:39:56
19. that's still like a shooting star there's never been anyone that confident
00:40:00
at 19. but yeah but for you I think it was just your age because I think you I think you should go back to that show
00:40:07
I'm so Earnest and I remember I wrote this sketch that like had some like like um said something like you know
00:40:16
you're like I can't remember what it was but it was like had like um it was about like racism or something
00:40:23
I was trying to like earnestly like use comedy to say something and it was just not and then and I remember at one point
00:40:31
I had Farley said like or something like that like Rio H and he just went at the
00:40:37
table where he just went Doh no was it a door do you think he took a dive or did he do it on purpose
00:40:46
so whatever but I I think I my best there was um like on punch-up nights because I
00:40:59
could I contributed well and and like pawn shops and I was so in love with Jim Downey it's like
00:41:06
heartbreakingly in love with him but you know he was like a you know and does he
00:41:11
know about this or is he hearing this from this oh no I'm sure I'm sure I came on very strong in my own
00:41:18
way but I was like he was like a grown-up you know and but I remember writing a sketch and saying like can you
00:41:25
help me with it and he said yeah and I think it was when Martin Lawrence was hosting
00:41:32
because his friend wrote there and was like came um Bowman or I don't know I can't
00:41:39
remember John Martin's friends maybe no one of Jim Downey's friends so then they
00:41:45
were hanging out in his office and he said just wait outside my office until I'm done here and I fell asleep and then
00:41:51
it I woke up and it was the morning and he was just coming out and I go are you ready for me and he's like
00:41:59
For What and I go I gave you my skit script script and he's like I don't I
00:42:04
don't know I don't have it down but I mean you know I love him though I mean of course I still love him
00:42:12
it's like a teacher it's like you being like a college girl and that's your
00:42:15
professor right yeah yeah Jim is definitely one of the smartest people I've ever met I've met a lot I love them
00:42:23
so much but it was a different time for sure when you say David a different time a
00:42:31
thousand percent I remember didn't you stab Franken for some reason yeah I did accidentally
00:42:38
stabbed out Frankie okay so for some reason at um table at um pawn shop and you know
00:42:48
they had this really sharp pencils and a big thing yeah yeah you know and I was like leaning back and like I had my
00:42:54
pencils all sharp and he had like a really big like fro you know Jewish hair and um I remember just like my brain was
00:43:04
drifting and I just thought like oh I could like stab this pencil through his hair
00:43:10
but what people saw was I just turned and stabbed them and I hit his Temple and it looked insane not him in the
00:43:19
temple and I remember him just going like sorry that's what he said why why and I couldn't answer because I was
00:43:33
laughing so hard and tears were pouring down my face and I looked like a crazy person that just stabbed out Frank and
00:43:39
then laughed oh man like put into words like oh in my head it would go through your hair you
00:43:47
know there's no I'm not crazy way to explain that I wish I was overlapped
00:43:53
with you for a year because yeah we could I would have had you on Church chat we would have had you in Wayne's
00:43:59
World we would have had you a Hans and Franz you think that now but it feels like such your ways because you're such
00:44:05
a smart writer that it just wasn't the time for you to hatch all these things
00:44:09
because later in your life I think your stand-up is also known for being very personal and you say so many things
00:44:15
about your life and anything you're thinking you pretty much say it seems so
00:44:19
or a lot of it that's something you need to remember like I wasn't me now then no
00:44:23
I'm saying it's kind of SNL now like you're saying about racism stuff SNL now does do a lot of
00:44:34
personalized things and they do do a lot of political things or what people are thinking or people take a stand on stuff
00:44:40
but back then like you're saying it was a different time of course on every front it was sort of different you know
00:44:46
but I'm so exhausted with like things that have something to say which I do like I love being just aggressively dumb
00:44:53
and silly right more than anything I told someone I was like my comedy is not important and in this day and age it
00:45:00
feels like it's got to be important and then you go you know I'm just trying to
00:45:03
get it it's important because your comedy is important because it's it's
00:45:08
not that it's it's not the lowest common scenario it's genuinely both of you so
00:45:13
belly laugh funny and everyone can enjoy it like it doesn't divide anyone which
00:45:19
is massively important um I I yeah I mean you I I appreciate it more and more all the time because if
00:45:26
life beats the [ __ ] out of you and you have people come up to you and maybe if
00:45:30
you're 35 or something they say I really needed that tonight but now it resonates
00:45:34
with me so if you can get someone to belly laugh because you can't worry and
00:45:39
Billy laugh at the same time I mean it's brain brain candy like watching a great
00:45:43
show or watching the movie marry me which my wife and I loved you in that movie well you know what's funny about
00:45:49
that it's so good that they held it for so long because by the time it came out
00:45:53
you know even like cynical [ __ ] like us are like yeah I just want to feel good
00:45:58
for an hour like really ready to watch that movie yes because of the pandemic in Ukraine or whatever it was just like
00:46:05
and then you were just the perfect sidekick in the movie like didn't every line just land perfectly but anyway
00:46:12
um you want to talk therapy for a little bit yeah only fans I'll give you I'll
00:46:19
give you top picks I used to wet the bed too for your book you did yeah yeah I was a champ
00:46:25
for how when did you stop uh you know probably somewhere around 12 to 14 I think
00:46:35
um the story I remember the most is there were five kids two parents and we're in a Cadillac going driving
00:46:41
through Montana old-fashioned Cadillac and we couldn't find a hotel so we had
00:46:45
to sleep in the car that night it was a three-seater of 1958 Cadillac so I got the spot where the transmission goes you
00:46:52
know behind the seat the hump I'm in a sleeping bag in the hump and then the
00:46:56
next thing I know waking up is I hear my brother and my mom looking down at me and talking about this giant wet spot on
00:47:03
the sleeping bag so like yeah I guess he's well should we wake him up I don't
00:47:06
know I went to bed I'd heard that and there there was just no dignified way to
00:47:12
get out of that wet bag you unzip it you stand up okay you gotta own it but and you know I I never felt that bad about
00:47:21
it though because I just thought I was just a heavy sleeper I didn't feel shame
00:47:26
like sleepovers were terrifying I just like pinched myself awake all night you know like and I yeah friends that were
00:47:35
twins Lori and Amy Martin they were my best friends and they knew I was a bed worker so you know and but I would
00:47:41
really try and like their mom would wake me up before she went to bed and like take me to Pizza but so one night I
00:47:47
remember waking up in Amy's room on my sleeping bag and I had wet and my heart
00:47:52
was pounding I didn't know what to do so I flipped it yeah so the circle was up
00:47:58
and I so then when Amy came in I go I wet the bed but it went up so you don't
00:48:05
have to tell your parents you know like it didn't get on the floor yeah but um
00:48:11
sometimes you would just move over and sleep sleep on the dry side yeah and just let it feeling when you wake up and
00:48:18
you're like you feel warm and you're like did I wet the bed and then you'd
00:48:23
have to move just a little bit and if you felt that whoosh of cold and air you knew that you peed you know it was like
00:48:29
so awful I remember I my first sleepover party was at this girl's house and the
00:48:35
mother was like [ __ ] [ __ ] and the worst thing was this is actually my music um they have a musical opening April
00:48:45
30th in New York and it's called the bed weather it's I'm not in it it's a year
00:48:50
I'm tense little girl and it has this scene in it where I I didn't know it was
00:48:56
a sleepover and then they're like oh you have to sleep over you know and then I
00:49:00
tried to like tell my mom and and they're all listening and she's like are
00:49:04
you sure you want to sleep over and I have to say yes because they're on the
00:49:07
other line like listening and then I have to borrow pajamas her mother made her daughter she was like a
00:49:14
pageant mom so I'm in these like I'm seven and wearing these sexy Harem pajamas sleeping in their sleeping bag
00:49:22
and I wake up drenched and I'm sorry excited and I just am like from having to go to a sleepover Camp every year I I
00:49:32
had just had this mechanism of disassociation where I just like got changed with all the other girls and it
00:49:40
was wet but I just it probably stank I just didn't acknowledge it and then Heather's mom walks in and she steps
00:49:47
right in my wet clothes and this is what a mother of seven-year-olds does she picks up the wet clothes and she goes
00:49:57
and I'm just standing there like out of body and I swear to God it's 1978 or I don't know when it was and the
00:50:06
just as I'm thinking like am I supposed to say something or can I just I'm not
00:50:11
gonna and then the father came in and went oh this side like Elvis Presley dying saved my life
00:50:19
because I was able to just like get picked up and get out of there while they were like so upset the King died
00:50:26
it's one of those non-sequitors that Elvis saved that humiliation did you wet
00:50:31
the bed every night then because mine was more interstitial but it was fairly consistent it was a lot of the time and
00:50:38
uh hmm and it was until I was like 15. and then a couple of times as an adult like when I got fired from Saturday
00:50:46
Night Live I remember I wet the bed like three times in that week and it was with
00:50:51
three different in three different men's beds oh wow what yeah because I you know I liked
00:50:59
um sex I it was so new to me I lost my virginity as a as a comedian I was 19. so I was just like after that I loved it
00:51:07
and I was like what do his balls look like what do his balls look like what do his balls look like
00:51:11
now did you um were your friends like that as well at 19 like would you call yourself
00:51:18
promiscuous at that point uh or once when I lost my virginity at 19 like through the year of being 20
00:51:26
yeah yes I like kept Noxzema in my backpack so I can wash my face wherever I landed
00:51:33
but um I didn't regret it I got a terrible reputation I was a [ __ ] meanwhile all the guys are [ __ ]
00:51:39
different waitresses every single night you know well yeah there's a difference
00:51:43
these guys I know all of them still let's see I well no they don't it's not
00:51:49
like something from my past because they're comedians yeah yeah they're your
00:51:53
friends now wow that's cool I like that I I always thought it was a double standard why why do women they have a
00:52:00
one-night stand they're a [ __ ] oh yeah but all these guys that [ __ ] every
00:52:04
waitress on the road are were just like cool no no problem and they [ __ ] all the same girls and wow so when did you
00:52:12
what what are you looking for because just casually we as a public are fans of yours we sort of know your different
00:52:19
relationships and do you has it evolved who you look for or is it Whimsical or are you out there or are you currently
00:52:26
in a relationship I'm just oh no I'm yeah I'm I have a living love okay so
00:52:32
how many how uh well how's it going good I love him he's great I you know I
00:52:38
really felt like I was at a you know after my 20th year I was just in like back to back long-term relationship
00:52:45
right so it was that one crazy year of just wanting to experiment and then we'll continue I should have I did
00:52:51
everything right in my opinion but you know um yeah he's great he's he's a writer
00:52:59
producer he's so funny and um I really was at a place where I was really felt done like I I just feel like
00:53:08
I don't wanna I love love but I kind of want to share my bed anymore I really
00:53:12
you know I I got to a place in the past few years before meeting him like where I really became my own best friend and I
00:53:20
love being alone I love coming home and I love doing anything I want at all times and not disappointing anyone you
00:53:29
know I really didn't do it and then we met over the like at the beginning of quarantine like in the
00:53:35
March 2020 over um playing video games like um playing online Duty online Call of
00:53:43
Duty online cool yeah so every night at 705 we would meet online and kill Nazis together
00:53:51
and um you know I knew him a little bit we had mutual friends he's you know he's
00:53:55
a comedian and a writer he was the he ran The Daily Show with John Stewart for a long time okay
00:54:01
and do you feel like you've matured or have more confidence in a relationship
00:54:06
or how have you evolved you know because going into this one it was really good because I had I know what I want and
00:54:14
don't want and I could be very clear from the beginning in him too we both you know
00:54:21
like I I've had a I love my exes I have good taste in men I I you know I I met
00:54:28
several of them that you do have great taste in men I do and and I'm I love they're like they become like brothers
00:54:35
you know as you you know and and um and and uh but but with the reason why they didn't
00:54:46
work out I don't know specifically each thing I'm you know whatever but I always
00:54:51
felt like I was disappointing I I tried it's always my goal to be the best possible girlfriend and yet I still felt
00:55:00
like I was had that feeling like I'm disappointing this person in some way and I just I don't want I'm not I would
00:55:07
never cheat I'm I have total uh blinders you know not blind I mean in a good way you know if I'm with someone
00:55:15
I don't see men other men in a sexual way at all you know I'm very devoted but
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I yes somehow I would feel like oh I'm disappointing there was always something
00:55:26
so it's nice to be with someone that I'm not I can just say like this is I'm at a
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point where this is how I want things and he can say the same and we we talk about stuff it is Spade not on where
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were you where were you David did you have to make a [ __ ] did you have to make a BM
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we see him do you hear us we were just talking about relationships and love and I think I do sorry Sarah
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whatever it happens you sound like you're drunk so it's like Sarah I'm so sorry that happened no I'm
00:56:04
kidding no I we had a situation here I don't want the people in room 29 there
00:56:11
was a oh um we're just talking about relationships and uh how Sarah's evolved
00:56:17
and has a a live-in lover and what how's that going uh you know I've been married
00:56:23
for 40 years you know yeah to six different women but my point is this no I say that every week my only joke I
00:56:29
ever wrote but I I do think with mine it was uh conflict you know afraid of conflict and then you bury the
00:56:37
resentment you're starting to carry anger around it you don't even know because you don't is this the Ant Hill I
00:56:43
die on right now or should I let it go by so um both my wife and I had five years of therapy so we're we're great
00:56:50
we're always good but we're better yeah I mean that's what Rory and I we'd
00:56:54
always go like face value I don't want to meet a relationship where I have to
00:56:58
decipher what you mean by what you say or like sure no that's fine oh no no if
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I say it's fine it's fine and you know it's my responsibility to say like
00:57:12
I have a problem or with that if you know and not go like okay you know I mean then I just can't with that stuff
00:57:19
like so we just go face value like you know what I say is what I mean and that's how I would only expect you to
00:57:27
take it you know and it cuts out a lot of [ __ ] if you get into a place where you're actually both trying to
00:57:32
open the door for the person and it's really organic like I just really want
00:57:36
to help my wife and she really wants to help me and we're codependent in a positive way if you have a narcissist
00:57:42
and an empath and they get together all hell breaks loose because the narcissist
00:57:46
can't help but they don't know they are and they start to harvest and use and
00:57:50
abuse the empath so would you how are where are you on that gradient scale in your mind you seem like an empath well
00:57:56
the narcissist would say I'm the empath right okay funny maybe it's destructive though too
00:58:02
but go ahead you know that book by Alice Miller I think it's called Drama of the
00:58:07
gifted child it's big yes so I remember reading it and I met with a friend for
00:58:12
lunch and I go oh I just read this book it's called Drama of the gifted child
00:58:15
and she goes oh I heard a really interesting story about that it's originally titled drama of the
00:58:22
narcissistic child but they realized the people that would need to read it wouldn't so they they named a drama of
00:58:29
the gifted child and then I was like a little deflated and also like it really made me go like wow yeah but but I would
00:58:36
say just for myself uh empathetic people can be dysfunctional and passive aggressive and people pleasing like I
00:58:43
didn't even think that as self-congratulatory and we all have a combo but I did learn in therapy that um
00:58:50
you know it's very very good to try to get in touch with saying no on your inner narcissist if you're you want some
00:58:57
of that going in other words you draw boundaries this is it I won't take any
00:59:02
more of this and so that really helped me with that that was kind of patterns from my childhood crazy parents crazy
00:59:07
everything so [Music] it's funny somebody called into my podcast yesterday about sex workers like
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just saying like um you know I I don't know how to feel about like porn and sex
00:59:23
workers like they should you know do what they want but aren't a lot of them
00:59:28
have like really traumatic pasts and you know and I you know I don't know the answer to this but I was
00:59:35
talking about I go like it's so funny because yes they probably have common trauma but so do comedians so do actors
00:59:42
so do uh politicians they have common traumas that drive them to want to do the X Y or Z you know yeah
00:59:51
all right guys so well I want to mention Sarah Silverman's podcast which I watch
00:59:57
and that's really fun on YouTube you know oh my gosh so you've been doing
01:00:01
that like for during the pandemic couple hundred shows or that's when I started I
01:00:06
was like I couldn't do stand up I couldn't fathom doing stand-up on Zoom like you know and
01:00:12
then I was like I I I'm gonna have to do a podcast because I you know I know
01:00:18
where to put this or like to generate even to like make a living just stand up you know yeah and keep your mind sharp
01:00:26
by you know improvising and stuff like that yeah I really I like it I mean it just the only thing about it is that
01:00:32
it's never ending you know like yeah I think I just you don't get a bunch of episodes and then
01:00:38
take a month off or you're just consistently churning them kind of um like I just shot this show and I had to
01:00:46
take two or three weeks off so but what I do is I talk forever and then they take
01:00:54
anything that can be Evergreen and save it so I do like stockpile stuff that isn't um like from this moment and then
01:01:04
like I'm when I go to New York to do the musical The bedwetter which opens April
01:01:10
30th at the Atlantic theater based on your book yeah yeah it's a little bit yeah one year
01:01:17
and uh BB new Earth is playing my Nana oh she's incredible I was thinking she's
01:01:24
too old to play 10. yeah no she's like a young sexy Nana from like with a Boston
01:01:29
accent and Sarah you get calls on voicemail and then you listen to them and answer them right yeah so so so we
01:01:36
so will bank I like banked some when I did my last one I did like a lot a ton of ads the ads are a little soul killing
01:01:44
but like I do look through them and like if they really have a bad like Better Business Bureau grade or something I say
01:01:51
no but I do a lot you know a lot of them I kind of like to own them I don't know
01:01:55
why it doesn't it's funny broadcaster yeah they seem fun Remember When Johnny
01:02:01
Carson would hold up Alpo and stuff like that you know just to go right at it but
01:02:06
it's really fun to fun to watch that show and your clothes change a lot I guess because they do edits because like
01:02:12
you have a blue shirt on and then they do a cut and then you have a yellow sweater on stuff yeah because it doesn't
01:02:17
matter with podcasts nobody cares mostly people hear it audio if they watch it on
01:02:21
YouTube yeah you'll see me in different outfits because it will be like stuff
01:02:25
from this week that week this week you know like more Evergreen things will just be from other weeks where I just go
01:02:33
and go and go you know but um yeah yeah the calls are like sometimes they're so
01:02:38
sad and I you know and I have to remember like I have to try to be funny at some point in this
01:02:43
episode this is like but I also like I'm so sorry you're you know Grandma
01:02:48
sometimes you're just giving girls serious advice which is kind of kind of cool
01:02:53
you know yeah you're actually it's funny because I like I did like this more
01:02:57
political show on Hulu and then I did a pilot for a political show on HBO and like you know again I'm like shocked
01:03:05
when they don't pick it up I'm like what I always think I'm putting gold in their
01:03:09
lap because I like it you know and but now I have no desire to do a play I just want to do dumb silly stuff because I've
01:03:16
got the podcast to talk about whatever I want to talk about and you know I just want to laugh big silly
01:03:23
stuff that's just uh you know why watched uh the second Pink Panther because my mother-in-law was in town
01:03:30
love slapstick with Peter Sellers uh revenge of the Pink Panther and it was just seeing her laugh at 91 from Dublin
01:03:37
belly laughing crazy and and then I started to do it you know it's such a joy you know those kinds of
01:03:44
old-fashioned movies just silly big set pieces that are relentlessly everything that could go wrong does go wrong and
01:03:52
Peter Sellers with this whole thing anyway that's like super Dave like he was like the yeah he was for me like I
01:03:59
never was really into physical comedy but super Dave is Total Physical comedy and I
01:04:06
he made me laugh so hard yeah he was he knew it was coming but it didn't it didn't matter there's something Primal
01:04:14
about it you know falling down and stuff you know yeah my niece sent me a video that she took of my dad she showed him
01:04:22
like a a Triumph the insult dog like special and he was I thought he was gonna die he was laughing so hard the
01:04:30
Star Wars one or the dog show I love the Star Wars one but it was like a political special he had done yeah
01:04:37
Robert smile strikes again oh my God yeah those are funny they're just so yeah man he's talking to the guy in the
01:04:44
Darth Vader thing and he's like what does this button do call your mom to pick you up
01:04:50
that's the best one oh uh all right we should let Sarah go she's been a good sport she's got a big
01:04:58
night tonight I do no no I don't know I'm just asking what are you gonna do
01:05:03
after we finish this podcast Danny's coming over to see my house because I I
01:05:08
just bought my first ever house woo yeah so he's coming over we're getting a
01:05:15
little lunchy and then and then walk the dogs whatever let's sound on ended earlier when it was better
01:05:22
you know when I talked to Jonathan Katz he told me a joke he had just made up and it was so funny he said um you know
01:05:30
Sarah I think we can all agree the worst people in the world are child pornographers
01:05:37
like oh yeah and he goes I think they should be prosecuted as adults it's not like that's such a perfect joke
01:05:45
yes all right well Sarah David Spade you got a joke David no um I don't think so okay ready here's
01:05:56
a joke he's always got some I said there's a it's an it's the 90th
01:06:01
anniversary no it's a 90 year old couple oh no you know what that means there's
01:06:08
six 60th anniversary and the wife wants to do something special so she tells the
01:06:12
guy to get in bed and she's got a surprise from so a nine-year-old woman she goes in the in the bathroom and gets
01:06:19
naked except for a cake she puts on a cape and then she pops out of the bathroom and gets the foot of the bed
01:06:25
and goes Super [ __ ] and he goes I'll take the soup [Laughter] [Applause] just take that to your I was nervous to
01:06:44
come on the show and I was listening and I wrote down something in case I didn't
01:06:48
think of anything because I was listening you're all talking about Saturday Night Live and everything and I
01:06:53
I had written one thing down which is not that but it's you know when I worked there I was
01:06:58
always like on the fourth row in read-throughs like way in the back and then I hosted one time and I you know
01:07:05
you get to sit right next to Lauren and uh I have like a terrible Sound Sensitivity misophonia like mouth sounds
01:07:14
and stuff that like make me insane the whole read through Lauren is eating baby carrots
01:07:23
I was like Out of Body Experience like it makes me like I can't even hear concentrate on anything I tried to like
01:07:31
Slide the the platter away like without anyone noticing he pulls it background and I remember he would do that and
01:07:40
occasionally I'd say what are you doing he goes he goes uh oh what's up doc
01:07:44
sorry Bugs Bunny Bugs Bunny Lauren doing Bugs Bunny there's that thing of like you're
01:07:52
chewing that's funny audio sensory bedwetting tactile uh new uh live-in boyfriend having fun said it all we kind
01:08:02
of we kind of did it all too all right well thank you Sarah see we'll end it on one of these all right thank
01:08:09
you Sarah we have five endings bye bye Sarah [Music] fly on the wall has been a presentation
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of cadence 13. please listen then rate review and follow all episodes executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade
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Chris Corcoran of cadence 13 and Charlie finan of brillstein entertainment production and Engineering led by Greg
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Holtzman Richard cook Serena Regan and Chris Basil of cadence 13. Johnny Byrne this is your question was
01:08:51
not about Adele but you say hi David and Dana I'm a 29 year old comic from Salt
01:08:56
Lake not Mormon uh who has been in Chicago for five years and just moved to L.A I'm sure you get this question a lot
01:09:02
but what advice would you have for someone who inspires Ben SNL you know that is a common question but
01:09:08
the only answer is and I get the question a lot about most about being comic is they have to find you I think
01:09:16
it's there's no secret advice from Me Maybe Dan has more he's he knows more
01:09:21
than me but if you're good even other Comics will help you get on other shows even people go you're good
01:09:27
it's kind of a weird thing but someone will say you're good and someone will say to their agent maybe you should
01:09:33
check this guy out and just getting stage time is probably my best advice as much as you can yeah first of all make
01:09:39
sure it's a passion because show business will break your heart they used to have people come to our College San
01:09:44
Francisco State wasn't a real college and they'd be like a regional actress or
01:09:48
did a couple commercials the first thing they'd always say is if you can do anything else in your life besides Show
01:09:54
Business do that only do that if you can't live without doing it so first of
01:09:58
all you've got to have the passion secondarily you just got to live on stage you got to either be a stand-up
01:10:03
living on stage work under material or go to the ground leads or second City do all the classes keep going networking
01:10:09
but the main thing is the passion and always look at your feet don't look at
01:10:14
I'm making it or while make it forget future tripping just like how good am I
01:10:19
today am I a little bit better today than it was I yesterday people say I'm gonna do this is free I'm not going to
01:10:26
charge anyone for this people say I I'm gonna try it for six months I'm gonna
01:10:29
try it for you if I don't make it what you do in that six months or a year you're probably going to be a lifer just
01:10:35
so you know are you really going to go back no so you go am I doing one percent better did I get one call back in this
01:10:41
year instead of zero I'm doing better it's an emotionally violent sport even
01:10:46
after you have success and you're in a big movie and it bombs or or you're at a
01:10:50
corporate date and you bomb so it's just emotionally violent it's also exhilarating I told myself early on I
01:10:56
said if David Spade ever gets on Saturday Night Live I'll quit Show Business
01:10:59
[Laughter] before SNL and I wasn't on SNL we're two civilians yeah and now we're here today
01:11:10
can you believe it so I legally adopted him 18 years ago because people on Instagram or is he your kid or what's
01:11:16
going on he is now hey son uh Johnny thank you for that and I hope that helps

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Episode Highlights

  • Awkward Physical Exam Stories
    Spade shares a hilarious and uncomfortable story about a doctor's visit.
    “The last thing you want to hear during that type of exam...”
    @ 02m 10s
    October 07, 2022
  • Sarah Silverman Joins the Podcast
    The hosts welcome comedian Sarah Silverman, discussing her career and humorous anecdotes.
    “Sarah Silverman is on our podcast!”
    @ 05m 44s
    October 07, 2022
  • Paparazzi Culture
    A humorous discussion on the absurdities of being photographed by paparazzi.
    “The greatest thing that could happen to them is that we get into a car accident and die.”
    @ 13m 56s
    October 07, 2022
  • Early Stand-Up Success
    Started stand-up at 17 and was on television within four years. 'That's pretty good.'
    @ 20m 18s
    October 07, 2022
  • First Day at SNL
    Excitement and nerves on the first day at Saturday Night Live, feeling like a newcomer.
    @ 26m 24s
    October 07, 2022
  • Learning the Ropes
    Navigating the chaotic environment of SNL and learning how sketches are chosen.
    @ 29m 23s
    October 07, 2022
  • Finding Confidence
    Struggling with confidence in comedy, but learning to embrace the process.
    @ 39m 51s
    October 07, 2022
  • Comedy and Personal Growth
    Exploring how personal experiences shape comedic expression and the importance of laughter.
    “Your comedy is important because it genuinely brings belly laughs to everyone.”
    @ 45m 08s
    October 07, 2022
  • The Bedwetting Confession
    A humorous recount of childhood bedwetting experiences and the awkwardness that followed.
    “I never felt that bad about it; I just thought I was a heavy sleeper.”
    @ 47m 21s
    October 07, 2022
  • Navigating Relationships
    Discussing the evolution of relationships and the importance of clear communication.
    “It’s nice to be with someone that I’m not disappointing.”
    @ 55m 28s
    October 07, 2022
  • The Bedwetter Musical
    Discussion about the upcoming musical based on a book, featuring a unique cast.
    “I’m going to New York to do the musical The Bedwetter.”
    @ 01h 01m 04s
    October 07, 2022
  • Advice for Aspiring Comics
    David Spade shares insights on pursuing a career in comedy and the importance of passion.
    “Show business will break your heart.”
    @ 01h 09m 42s
    October 07, 2022

Episode Quotes

  • I got gang raped for this song in an alley.
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  • I don't understand why I'm a part of me.
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  • I was so excited John Malkovich was the host.
    Sarah Silverman | Full Episode | Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
  • I was heartbreakingly in love with him.
    Sarah Silverman | Full Episode | Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
  • Elvis Presley dying saved my life.
    Sarah Silverman | Full Episode | Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
  • I just want to laugh big silly stuff.
    Sarah Silverman | Full Episode | Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade

Key Moments

  • Question Submission00:14
  • College Dilemma21:33
  • SNL Premiere25:31
  • First Sketch Success28:34
  • Confidence in Comedy39:51
  • Childhood Humor47:21
  • Podcasting Challenges1:00:35
  • Comedy Advice1:09:42

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