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we have Bonnie and Terry Turner today on the old fly on the wall and you know my best memories with them they're
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there are two uh formidable writers on SNL that have contributed to a lot of SNL and a lot of movies we've both been
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involved with and you'll hear about that uh I remember sitting around the rewrite table the first I think husband and wife
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team there and just mixed into all the huge huge strong writers we had during that run yeah they were we're so glad to have them because we've had a lot of our
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great writers from SNL on the show and they were a big piece of the puzzle they wrote on Church chat for me was a
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Char they were great at that Way's World Wayne's World they were great uh they're
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just great writers they're they're down uh down toe people they they don't put on airs they're very sweet and extremely bright and they've had a massive career in fil as well um they did um Third Rock
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from Sun That 70s Show yeah yeah yeah and and that's coming back the '90s show right is that coming back is that the
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one yes that's coming back it's second season on Netflix they already had 10 release so they're they're still doing
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it now they're at the top of their game and uh we have a very nice conversation it's really warm and it was nice old
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friends a lot of fun uh and here they [Music] are something's happening I see him hey I see him I like the beer Terry thanks
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Bonnie actually helped me get on she's back in the other room getting on herself we're the only household in America where the wife knows how to work
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all this stuff can't wait till Bonnie sees my goofy hair flipping up that'll be the first 10 minutes hi there's Bonnie hi hi
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everybody this is like some kind of like where it's the old writer room film I'll
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I'll see you guys later and then it's decades hello hi hello this is what happen so how's the last how's the last
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40 years been for you guys no can I ask how long you two have been married 40 it'll be 50 years next year not that I'm counting no it's 49 uh in
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November 4041 here hey so you're like the SNL reunion totally 50 next year yeah we were married the same year oh crazy easy to
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keep track 83 75 75 oh 75 Oh Oh you mean the show I me the show on on on uh on Lauren's birthday too yeah did was Lauren did he
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marry you is he um it's that thing of like pronouncing you man Jim what do you think Jim do you
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think Jim should they be married should they be married what Jim Downey with his keys and all his scripts in his hand
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getting into his office his office I'll talk to you later but we we've we're so glad thanks for coming on because we've had Jim Downey we've had Al Franken Alan's w b
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working on uh handy we love Jack Handy of course he's shy which we love him but uh you guys are you let him do it let Jack do it for
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a fishing location you can get him I'm sure if you just let him be outdoors and talk about trout you know Trout's very
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interesting so he's the only one probably that isn't obsessed with chiz so it's that's that's the likable thing
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about him he doesn't yeah he's great he he he just was in his own lane on Monday
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everyone's just exhausted and he would say that he he's good in other words whatever he he was going to do this brilliant esoteric piece of Comedy I took a bath and it's all done and that
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was during that Monday that would be it the rest have to go to the death march of Tuesday night I
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go Jack why don't you stay up all night he goes well I'm done I why would I I finished I know so uh I don't really
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know where to start with you guys it's just that that just putting you in context you come up quite regularly when
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we talk about movies and you know and sketches but the main thing for me is like this trajectory and I want to talk about the greatness and our love for Jan Hooks and Phil which I feel like you two
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you had different Lanes on the show but I feel like you two wrote a lot of pieces with those two starring in them
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because they were kind of our stalwarts I was more of a dancing monkey on the side you yes but uh yeah I want to get
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to the the church side stuff but just briefly how did you get on SNL because people might be curious uh how did get
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hired as writers you make it pretty quick but it was through Jan right it was Jan yeah she got she got she was
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hired and and we she said they're looking for writers and and we said what do we do and she said write a couple of
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sketches and and um send them to Evie Murray who was Lauren's you know assistant at the time which we did and we didn't hear that was in October and
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we didn't hear anything until January of course right and I yeah it's waiting must have been great waiting for gdau and waiting for Lauren they're both both Broadway shows did you write anything
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that was actually usable once you got on there or was it just sort of in general no no I think we just it was sort to get
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the door open was all it was yeah we wrote a thing I I just all I remember is a is a like Meet the Press thing that we
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wrote that had Jean Kirkpatrick who was flirting with uh this is how long ago it
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was Kirk Patrick you remember her with Betsy Ross yeah they were making a flag together one day I had a Dwight Eisenhower chunk but
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anyway oh hysterical from my point of view so I'm on the show Rosie Schuster is assigned to me because I did the church lady my standup she helps me develop it she called it Church chat so
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she was very useful and very helpful yeah and then at some point you guys appeared like from The Plains of the
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South or something and then you immediately started writing great stuff for that character and and the character is kind of Vilan I don't know if she's aged well but there is a there is a
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combination to it and you guys just wrote great for church chat that whole people love that woman they love that
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woman she is still relevant as far as I think I think I think church lady could have her own podcast don't you David I
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mean she she's she's like she's so judge judgmental is forever yeah you know yeah
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doesn't get old not no it doesn't P patronizing than thou the whole world are sex fiends and sinners except for
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exactly short Sinners yeah I I I think she's wonderful well I I'd say if people ask me alltime sketches you know I think the
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one with Phil and Jan it was fairly early on you know there was a lot of religious scandals that first year Jimmy
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Swagger and stuff which also boost but knowing what I know now Lauren would love a character with a talk show where other cast members get to come in
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and because they were so funny and that was like a hysterical level of laughter very rare in 8 so speak to that that was well I think it was Janet because we
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would watch Tammy F and uh down in Atlanta all the time and and the line that Jan said that knocked me out I don't know who wrote it was a uh it was
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like well it came from Tammy Fay baker said it was like Devils were in a bunt pan jammed on my head and running around
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and she said and I said they were in a bun cake pan yeah and I said evil evil bun cake pan Devils I rebuke you is what you said and I went I don't even know
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who wrote that but I just I fell out when Jan did that line it was great and I also the mascara running down her face
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was great yeah the mar yeah and then the you know accidental because you can't plan it was never supposed to be carette
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but when they saw her putting this stuff on yeah it was great it was crazy I love that so would do you keep in touch with
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anyone on the show no no you guys smart yeah we've seen we've seen Al I think more than come on by the way I called Al
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a half hour ago just to just to see you know I know you guys wrote with him a lot and we're just friends and tried to get some scoop but um I don't really
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know really where to begin I mean when you look back on your six seven years 86 to 93 six and a half yeah do you look back with with joy horror uh Dron I mean
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I I think it was yes no I says yes it's a great it's a great it was a great experience it was like being on a ball team or something you know there was just like everybody was got a chance at bat it was hard
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struggled sometimes and sometimes it was great just joy joy is fun you know when those things would hit like that you
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just be great it's it served us our time there I think at least for I can speak for myself um served me well in that it knocked out
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a lot of really bad habits you know when you come in as somebody who's not worked
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in that situation before or that pressure before you know and you work under that pressure and you know to the
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you work to the live broadcast it it makes you become a clearer version of what you meant to do in the first place you know and there's something really amazing about it being you know it's
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like I feel like everybody we were with including the two of you so much we're like Army Buddies you know it's like it's like I will never you know call and
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I'll come and you know and and um and I you know people who you when working in writer rooms later on in our
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career um it's it's became really clear that the SNL experience makes you tougher sharper
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faster clearer you know um more respect for an idea and seeing it through you know at at SNL you have an idea you
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pitch it in the room the host locks in and says yeah then it's your job to make it
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work it's a fumble if you don't when you're halfway there exactly and in a lot of sitcom
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rooms um I will say run by other people not us uh you know we'll get to your other career okay but they but but they um you know will have an idea and if
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they can't make it work in a couple hours they throw it out and move on and you go no no don't don't
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don't the hard part you know the easy part is making it work you know it just it takes some some thought but ideas are
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the hard part yeah you get one good idea yeah yeah right yeah and and you should
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make it work and SN is is a clear shot at learning how to do that it's it's really amazing to me you know when I was there I just I learned a lot from you know these two Dana and everyone there I
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was newer and uh these two were obviously always nice to me um but I was so new and I think I was learning from
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just at read through because you you read a tight sketch that works and you go oh that's how like you study it you
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go oh there's no fat in here everything means something this to this what am I doing I don't need 18 pages I don't need
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you know just but every sketch you learn and then the next read through you go okay and then you see how it's written
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you just learn over time I think and watch what works on on its feet I agree with you I agree with that totally and
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you know the sudden potential humiliation just focuses you oh as writers sitting there and air show
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it's going out or and read through or during the rehearsal you don't want any fat you want it to be like monkey bars
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that's funny that's good that's funny you can't be baggy at all so and this procrastination Theater which is sort of part of that whole week but it's taking that proc okay we got to do it now it's
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got to go now and by the way Jim Downey was electric at 1110 great yeah you know what's funny
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Dana he could write he could write five jokes when there's like you'll have it in the C it's just like right right
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right at that point I would have a sketch that if it God forbid got to the rewrite table and we'd be going through
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it and The Bu and for the listeners the benefit is you get Bonnie and Terry and smile everyone's funny adds to your sketch so you get the credit but I remember we I think this one time we
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turned the page to the next one and Jim kind of ran his pen from the top to the middle and goes I don't know if you need
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this part like this whole chunk could go and you wouldn't even miss it I'm like like
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really and then when you read it it was a dead spot and you just takes fresh eyes or someone else look at it go no
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and then those are tough to take as a writer but again like Bonnie said it's just boot camp you got to go okay I'm in with the best people so I gotta trust
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I'm good do Bonnie and Terry to this question like do you have people ask you and they oh you wrot for SNL I thought you were that 70 show oh we did where are there sketches that standout that
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you shephered or co-wrote or wrote with for the host or anyone that you remember people ask you well if you want check
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that out on YouTube what what were the ones that your image of it and then it's on the air and it's like oh it's even
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better I like the one the way the raise your hands raise your voice that set the chickens free oh my Go song yeah the
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song I remember that because of everybody that was in it doing a impr and I remember the two of you you were doing Dylan and you were doing uh Tom Petty yes am I right and that and you
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didn't sing but you did this expression facial expression that was Tom Petty's you had award we could not
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understand the word that Bob Dylan was saying and Farley was part of uh was he meatloaf or was he Wilson Phillips no it was Wilson Phillips Wilson Phillips drag is Wilson Phillips
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guaranteed laugh yeah that was just great I love that that piece and when the chickens came over the hill where
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where they had the slow motion slow motion running over the hill I I thought that was absolutely great I love
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everybody everybody scored in it it was so great a cast piece where everyone's do Impressions is a score and then was
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the host who was the host that week I don't even know well Michael Bolton we talked Michael we talked Michael it was
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it was Stephen Seagal was the host and Michael Bolton was the musical guest and we were like can't write for Stephen
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Seagal and but we we T we said if we write this song Michael Bolton has to do he has to set it up because he's the setup he's the genuine yeah and uh so he went down
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to his dressing room and talked to him and said would you Mr Michael Bolton would you please do this this is what we're doing and it it's not we're not making fun of
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Quincy Jones or anything like that it's not a thing that's not what it is you know and and he went yeah sure I'll do
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that oh I love it and now he does all kinds of Comedy I mean maybe that was the first time he did something comedic
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and then who knew that he was a standup you know you have you two have eyes for talent I'll tell you that you've got a
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nose for the winter every time you you did do a lot of musical stuff as well when I didn't I do a cowboy thing one was it Woody sure you did and we were on fake horses and it was you guys song you
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know that's so much that's a fun part of the show yeah it's doing the musical stuff is great in the show it's a lot of
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fun I like to when when uh oh God think who I feel like a million dollars I feel like a dynamite um Christopher walon thinging when he
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would do musical stuff on the show oh he loved it to it was great and he could move he could dance and for people who
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don't know you usually have a music director we had it was Cheryl right chery hard you get as a novice and you
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know comedian you're sitting with this person who like oh Bradway Oh you mean like that I mean you
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and she played um some Santana song the chords backwards and that was the themed to church chat but you guys would I
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didn't know that fun fact for the kids wow um but that that was so great to be on a real musician like that where they just and then there and then you get all the casts together and she try to tell
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you your part stuff like that that was fun what about the one that was dysfunctional family Christmas leave me
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alone please go away F leave me alone please don't don't touch me please don't was that you guys that was that was us yeah that was us great one
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[Music] yeah you two were kind of ubiquitous you were like in a lot of quadrants you
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weren't like in one little lane and so you would sometimes punch up things or you'd come in youd rescue write a line
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you write your own thing right for the host so uh that's the way I see you on the show you were just every just
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floating around and and and obonnie and Terry are here and they're gonna have great ideas it just that's the way I
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remember you guys I don't know if I remembered it correctly but I remember we didn't have the great ideas that part you got wrong we were around but we not
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with the great you're right we were utility players no and and stars but that's part of did you work was coads during SNL it was wasn't it Conan cone
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head's movie conad movie conad yeah yeah that was I think it Wasing yeah I just want to um just for all of us for the people at home I'm going to read some of the cast of Cohen heads the
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movie okay that you guys wrote on okay uh obviously Jane Jane curtain Dan arride uh Chris Farley Lorraine Newman John Lovitz Michael mcken Parker posy
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Garrett Morris Julius Sweeney Adam Sandler David Spade Ellen degenerous Michael Richards Tim Meadows uh William Shatner Phil Hartman hooks Jason
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Alexander Joey Adams Kevin nean and Sinbad all crammed into one movie that didn't work exactly but it was a it was at least a lot to look at oh
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Drew Cary a lot of right was in the back of the c i David I was thinking about you the
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other night about uh the last line on remulac the uh super guy I think that was a re-shoot I think it totally was a re-shoot yes and it
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always made me laugh oh I love going heads I had such a fun part in that that was so fun uh goad was a good movie I
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just saw stuffing on it lately because people find it again you know some streamer picks it up and then people
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give it a shot that didn't drag out to the theater and then they go oh that was fun I know it's kind of a cliche but I
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it seems like there's a hunger for these big kind of dumb '90s comedies uh they're just fun you see con EDS you're just laughing it's so silly and fun you know but one
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thing interesting about you too I'm just observing it casually sketch writers film writers yeah and then
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dominating the half hour world and doing it now with that 90s show oh yeah season
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two so yeah season two films are what's what's the hardest of those three or what's the easiest of those three because you you've done all three I think films are the hardest for me it's
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a bigger picture it's a longer shot and it seems like uh I don't know just they seemed harder and I don't know why it's like 120 pages I mean that's a lot you
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keep the balls in the air oh my God yeah you get two acts in and then what happens how do we get to the end now yeah we got to get there the one
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hard the one that you guys wrote on extensively was way world let's just talk about wayn world one which was sort
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of uh just landed so beautifully uh yeah that was a great experience yeah did you
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guys this is what I would say like on the first one it was 35 days maybe or 25 35 days it was short and we're on the
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car doing but if Abraham Lincoln she'd be a baby bab whatever you probably wrote that line or um bab's Bunny and then and then the sequel we had so much
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money and I they built a set where gu and Wayne hang out and it's like just Fantastical it seemed like it was almost
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a parody of the the theme of the first movie it should have been it actually should have been a a parody of the first
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fil that we do just we do just sell out or what GTH and Wayne have money yes they're now living in a giant Warehouse yeah or wherever they were they the doll it was the doll factory yeah the old
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doll factory oh that's right there's a giant statue of lenon there was a restaurant in there
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somewhere that was and one you guys I think dream girl was yours or you just we wrot you wrote a lot of stuff for G and I just want to thank you and we
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were fun to work together on things you know was very nice well I always felt like that uh that the first movie uh was like uh Wayne and G get uh $10 million
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to make a movie and what do they want you know G wants the dream girl the Dream Woman and uh Wayne wants an exotic
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singer in a rock band and they have this cool car and and there there was something that was in the uh do you have any gray pong that that scene where yeah
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he said they think everything they do is so [ __ ] hilarious G Can't hold it together when they drive up to the it back and forth and they just explode with laughter over do you have any
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pardon me do you have any gray coupon I know they were laughing too we never smoked pot or drank in the movie but
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they were laughing and I way little Stone people asked you over the years I go well the two losers in town and their
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friends are the happiest people in the town like like absolutely by 10x yeah yeah it's ritualization of all those things and of course a tip tip of our hat to Mike Myers arit go ahead Terry
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well there was a a note that Paramount gave to uh to underline the fact when Farley came up to the car we should know that this is an important moment and you
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know about Mr Big in the car we should underline this moment and and then okay Mike put the line in you know for a security guard he had an awful lot of information don't you think like it's
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just directly into the camera and Paramount was completely happy with it it wasn't what they asked for with but they said oh that'll do it that'll
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underline it this is insane it was like oh it's kind of nice all the exposition funny version of that yeah just put go to the camera and go this is what's happening this is what we're thinking
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okay right and next um there was one I think that wasn't G he was on the grass going ow ow ow he was like Mar you know those kinds of moments yeah yeah yeah it was my keys my keys my keys I fell on my
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keys so if you're going to yeah I mean so that movie but going back to like our movies harder there when we did the um the scene where he does foxy lady and I
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don't know if you guys remember we were trying to get what what's new pussycat what's new pussycat yeah but Steve
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Martin was doing it in Father the bride just a fun fact yeah but that that was a day where you go triple overtime just to
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get it because I remember walking to the set and going I think this is the most tired I've ever been on my life you know
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isn't it a little weird that that one going to film this thing but that's part of uh film it gets gritty sometimes it
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gets late it gets cold it gets got to get the shot you know the the other weird thing
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about films for us and doing them was that um as we went through you know Hollywood there they don't let writers on the set that the idea that writers
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that Terry and I were there on the set was like a weird thing for we didn't realize it at the time because it was we were just as far as we were concerned we were just working you
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know true yeah and um and and there is a a thing about having you know writers talk to the actors you know you you have
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to go through the director and you have to you know there's a filter all the time and you go man if you know who
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you're talking to and you know what their comic butt are and and like what how they're physically funny or how they're you know you should be able to talk to them right because the director
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could kill that because they're also um they don't know it's also you two with Dan and Mike who you two are together
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every day and someone comes in from the outside yeah and is the mediator yeah it's weird I know it is weird it seems to come from SNL in a way like sometimes a writer would jump in a sketch or even
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if Davey Wilson came down a writer or a cast miracle more of a clubhouse feel like rather than you're the writer I'm the performer and you know yeah there was no there was no hierarchy it was
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just Ary just Ary you direct your own sketch you just write it then you go in the booth and watch and yeah you produce and write your own work at SNL with people like
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you on the set because you're if you're if I'm in the character of gtha I'm doing things I can get notes from you
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guys because you're objectively watching the whole thing maybe you should go your entrance a little quicker just a timing
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thing so yeah I'm I'm glad to hear that we had that but that's you know what what was your next movie you did
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wayworld you did con Tommy Boy Tommy Boy Tommy Tommy Boy was I mean what a great
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title that we missed which was Billy the thir of Midwestern Billy the Kid Billy the Kid the working bil the thir the third it was Big Bill Little
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Bill sorry myad Billy would have been great too though bunny thank you thank you Dana a
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Midwestern I'm out of here I'm out of here T yeah well that was such a great and I think it was a Billy Madison bump right yeah that's what we heard from uh
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somebody said that the audience might confuse it and because it was s you know two people from SNL and they might go to
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the wrong movie or something which I I don't know I don't know yeah oh oh my God what line am I
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in two people named Billy can't with I know well Tommy took a while I mean Tommy Boy the title took forever uh it seemed because I don't think in my
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recollection which is you know a little Dusty is a I don't think it was named when we got to the set I mean I think it we have to find a new title yeah Adam I
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think was shooting Billy Madison maybe in Vancouver I don't know but yeah at the same time so but Tommy Boy of course
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just like Wayne's World another one where it landed and uh I appreciate that one writing a movie how did that even come about uh we were talking with with
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we've talked with Farley and it turned out Farley's we all had working dads of course everybody had working dads then but Farley's dad and my dad had a lot in common not only their size not only
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their demeanor not only everything about them but there was this one thing that happened when I said my dad used to when
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he drove a truck and he had to take dinner napkins and tuck them in at a certain weight will you get this he had to tuck dinner napkins into his belt and fold them over because the steering
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wheel would rub on his pants and shine them up right below his belt line and uh barley said my dad had his pants would
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shine too when he got in the car and I went this is weird so we started talking about our dad's and everything and it's
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and my dad was on the road a lot so that's how that sort of started went that way and I was on the other end at
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Paramount finishing up the cone heads and looking at the testing and the testing numbers for Farley were off the charts oh and I went yeah and I went
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over to um John Goldwin office who was the president of production at Paramount at the time and said have you looked at these numbers this is weird is this weird you
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know I think this is weird this is this number is way high in a good way yeah but but is are you look has Lauren looked at these has you know this is he this is this is
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interesting and um and John went yeah I know I know and we went huh and then Terry and barley had this conversation this ongoing sort of thing where they
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would laugh at each other's fathers and um and it became a movie yeah so Lauren say write something up about this because he's good in conee heads he's
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good on the show let's put something together where salesman he was he I I remember uh nothing about how that happened I think do you Terry I don't I
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don't really remember I don't know how it I don't remember what the Gap was the word I got was Lauren got you two
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because you're great writers and you wrote well and he said maybe it's probably for Farley but he's like maybe
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farly and Spade because it could be like a buddy comedy and kind of the way they are around the office and Spade kind of
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makes fun of them and Goofs around and they pal around and the traveling salesman thing because a pitch we always
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laugh later like a pitch of a guy selling break pads in Ohio wouldn't wouldn't go as far but you have to back
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into it it's like yeah what's a funny Farley movie what's a funny idea my dad was a Salesman too so I related to that
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part too of like oh um you got he worked in commission you don't get any money to
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you sell and all that stuff so I I related to that and then it just turned into uh reading it and going oh we're GNA do it this summer what a blast yeah
00:32:05
yeah blast yeah that was a great I enjoyed that movie tremendously there's something kind of magic about that movie
00:32:12
there's the likability to it and there's a POS there and then of course all the funny set pieces it was like just it
00:32:19
just really feels good whenever you see a piece of it it's just like I don't know what you guys did but Chris
00:32:26
Farley's Chris's brother uh je his name just left my brain there's Kevin there's okay yeah uh said that they watch it they watch the
00:32:38
movie once a year just to visit with Chris just to visit with Chris yeah because it really captured and Chris yeah in a f also they can't help it because it's on TBS five times a day
00:32:50
well this is why it's like the it's like The Wizard of Oz or it really is I was I
00:32:57
was on the road I saw Tommy Boy and Joe D in the same day just on the same channel I'm like oh my God what's going
00:33:02
on is this why I keep getting three cents I knew it was for some reason wonder you were great in that film wonderful it was ready it was well
00:33:14
written for me and um just perfect falling into place uh well the two of you together great doing stuff like the fat man in a little coat thing which I've done around around the office in
00:33:27
the writers little you know I love that it's on film yeah couldn't include all the stuff in the writer room no um anyway no what what are you what are you talking about
00:33:39
I don't know Chris Chris would get big laughs some you could show some you could sometimes clothes would come off
00:33:49
[Music] yeah and then you went on now what was the first one sitcom wise after that was
00:33:55
it a third rock or was it it was Third Rock yeah yep and that came from was it I just I didn't put it together with like it was a cone head type of thing or
00:34:06
is that was that not oh man it was it was this started with just the thing with Marcy Cary said would you like to
00:34:12
do a show about aliens who visit the Earth to maybe do a book report on it or something like that we and we went no
00:34:21
no that idea and get out of my office right now but the more we thought about it and we were walking down the street
00:34:27
New York and uh and a moving van went by that said the Solomon Brothers on it and
00:34:34
we said the Solomon Brothers they all come in their brothers which which we traded around and moved around but that
00:34:39
was just how it started and went from there and ran forever how'd you get John lith out was he a first choice or he he just appeared because he's he's so perfect in that he it was his Bonsai
00:34:51
Buckaroo you know that weird weird film John had a reputation for doing odd things and um and
00:35:00
we thought and we had worked with you know we it was an SNL and he was a host a couple times and it was you know we' written a Thanksgiving sketch and he he he knew how to be really funny and very
00:35:12
normal and um and actually Bonnie Bonnie was the one who thought of him because we couldn't figure out who was going to
00:35:18
play that role because we said it was like a a cross between arrol Flynn and Bugs Bunny he wasn't afraid to pick up
00:35:25
the sword and stab somebody with it or put on the dra he would do you know anything whatever you need to do and we
00:35:30
thought and thought we were thinking for a while and Bonnie said one morning she said John let go I said what she said
00:35:37
it's John lith go and I went of course it's John let go who else would that role you know and we we had we didn't
00:35:44
have a full script we had like three scenes written some descriptions and some yeah description in between and and we went this is all we have and we were having breakfast we Marcy and Tom and
00:35:58
you know the Cary Warner had decided we should have breakfast with John he didn't know that we were going to pitch a show to him and we gave him these
00:36:09
pages with the stuff written and said you know just just it's about an alien and and he went and he went what an alien on
00:36:21
this and what that mean like Lop I nearly puked a muffin was just like oh this is really bad this is not good he probably thought alien makeup every
00:36:33
day something anyway he he called that night at like around 7:30 and said uh I hate you both and we went okay great why and he
00:36:47
said because I'm going to do television I never wanted never wanted to do series television oh and now I'm going to do
00:36:53
series I'm going to do series television how fun well good for us this is good for it's bad for you it's good for us this is great we shot it for ABC originally and uh ABC was not keen on it
00:37:06
and it jumped networks which very seldom happens yeah and uh then it would end up
00:37:12
on NBC and they got it as a mid-season replacement and we shot 16 episodes or 15 13 13 13 episodes and it never aired in the dark we said we're in the dark
00:37:23
because we shot it in front of an audience they got to see the pilot and then uh then they put it on the air after after half a year or more of shooting the show and then they put it on the air
00:37:33
and it took off but it was very very weird that people were coming in to watch a show that nobody had seen and
00:37:40
for some reason it worked you know how you just get into a project and you go well I'm in it so we'll just keep
00:37:47
working you know cross fingers right how many times has that happened to you in you're over the last 40 years yeah you
00:37:54
know several times right were you at CBS Radford yeah yeah I think I was just shoot me
00:38:00
right on the same time you were there were yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah CU which was a very funny show I led to shoot me
00:38:08
yeah it was great it was great David I always say David was the fonds of that show he
00:38:14
totally meaning it is the you know the kind of that whatever you call that character
00:38:20
character the very cool idiot yeah idiot for sure cocky idiot but funny because one episode they find out I have a big wiener that Finch us and then um they
00:38:34
saw me they and they were all jealous at work because they saw me in the sauna and then they George seagull and uh
00:38:41
Elliot see me hitting on a girl and I'm so bad at it that um they go you know the the clouds are parting and the sun is coming because it goes George Goes Classic great product bad sales
00:38:54
department that's a good line that's great and they walk away happy oh yeah that was such a fun show that was a fun show and you guys did so it was 70 no no it was Third Rock then
00:39:07
70s Show and then was it 80 show the 80s Show yeah yeah yeah I think Britney was
00:39:13
on that maybe um Britney Daniel and then um and then there's 90s yeah can I ask you guys a question yeah before we get I just that I remember the first time I met you and I'm kind of I'm not even
00:39:27
sure if I remembered it correctly but you said something the effect of we're going to work really really hard and
00:39:33
then we're going to go move on move you know retire or do something else I don't
00:39:38
know I this is like n when you first came in the off I probably misremembered that but I was just curious because all
00:39:45
this success and I know there's other little things in between but basically the show the movies the TV shows did you
00:39:51
guys take kind of a Hiatus before you came back did you spend or we've been working since all the way through you
00:39:59
before the 90s show you mean oh just yeah in these last 10 years was there a time you were we stopped we just stopped
00:40:05
completely yeah we stopped stopped we we became serial Renovators at that point we started we renovated the apartment we
00:40:13
renovated the house and that was what we did we have to do something you know but and then we started back up Tom Warner
00:40:20
wanted to reboot the show and Marcy said if you'll do it I'll do it and we said okay we'll do it yeah and recast it the fun thing is actually the casting on it because the New Kids On It are are good
00:40:31
they're great and we get to work with de Jo and kurtwood again so that's fun well
00:40:36
those two I mean are Kirkwood Smith there's something about I mean he is just so funny well he carries the baggage of the Dead Poet Society when
00:40:48
when we and the son that commits suicide you know yeah it was it was like when we said when we told the First cast that
00:40:56
the grandpa in the you know the show was uh gonna be Kirkwood yeah everybody went
00:41:06
oh my God you know because oh my god the guy who son kill himself my God he's gonna be the dad you know he's gonna be he's gonna be the dad yay so people
00:41:17
don't know you came back and you did season one it's on Netflix 10 episodes yeah the 90s shows well received I read
00:41:24
some reviews people love it I try to do the homework you know but then then now it's back on season two when is the premiere 27th of June okay June when
00:41:37
they yeah basically if you like the 70 show those parents are back their empty nesters and then the grandchild come back with all their friends and so it's this conflict again
00:41:51
and um Deborah Joe rup and Kurt Woodsmith are back yes really really funny what was okay here's here's an Oprah type question what was it like coming back to the after that Hiatus
00:42:04
working on your house coming back into the mom into the into the the we didn't want to do it Dana we were we were when there's our trending it's trending it
00:42:16
was it was we just we just went we in the very beginning Terry and I just went why would we want to do you know why do why do we just keep nailing and make a kid
00:42:28
you know and and um and Lindsay our daughter who uh I don't know if you guys remember her of course Lindsay she was the mascot who was always smiling I
00:42:40
remember her always smiling yeah on Joe dixo stool yeah you know sitting there and uh she's she said do this do this it's it'll be great it'll be wonderful
00:42:54
and she she went you know you got Deborah Joe and C would you have she started pitching what she thought the
00:43:00
series should be well I guess it's the thing we went the thing about you know modern live streaming all that so you you get to do 10 just 10 take a break do
00:43:13
10 and you probably can mix and match I don't I don't it's just it just seems easier than 22 was do I you remember that correctly it abely right 22 23 one
00:43:25
year was 25 by the way a little insert here I for a period of time 10 years ago I was developing a half hour Show with Tom Warner oh yeah and he constantly uh
00:43:39
was just sort of sweet well well Bonnie well Terry we we'll talk to them you know I'm gonna reach out to them if we
00:43:45
could get Bunny and Terry but Bunny and Terry I mean he loves you guys um and uh
00:43:51
I said I know I think I think that you know it Tapped Out did you guys so you you you got a couple nickels in your pocket you know you're not you're not from wealth wealthy backgrounds I assume
00:44:04
you weren't so and you're you're you're independently you're okay you can do what you want and so you decide to after
00:44:12
I don't know working your asses off for decades I think it was a well-deserved and so you're renovating a cool house
00:44:18
are you reading books you're taking walks how do you feel that after all that freneticism I miss it you miss well what the I I miss I miss I
00:44:31
miss the crazy I miss the work I I I love I love the work I love I love the thought process I love I do and I love and I love you know one of
00:44:44
the things that got us through the pandemic was the 90s show we were we were sitting and thinking about it we
00:44:49
were GNA you know we were in a in a house couldn't go anywhere but we were thinking our brains were in this we were in Point Place wiconsin you know
00:45:00
and and that's a wonderful place to live yeah general area are you in Point Place
00:45:08
like a casual street address where would you be don't give it away 20 24 2415 rugby
00:45:17
Drive rugby Drive sorry that was a long way to go for that joke so exactly it's okay but um so I give it you're saying so your brain is occupied during the pandemic with thoughts of this and I do
00:45:29
think from the the stuff I've seen the cast is really good and very likable all the young people and so that's also sort of a kick right now you're meeting people first time in a TV series and
00:45:41
then you guys come in like rock stars I assume not that you would present yourself that way but like hey they did
00:45:47
the 70 show they find out what you did they're like oh my God they've done all this stuff well I mean it's kind of nice
00:45:54
isn't it it makes them relax a bit and go oh my God these guys know what they're
00:45:59
doing I think the Tommy Boy was one of the guys sat down uh uh one of the The Tech Guys uh wait a minute I'll get his name in a minute oh Brad Brad okay there
00:46:13
I'm not good with names either I the names Escape me I couldn't remember who Dave Gro was yesterday was like you know
00:46:20
the drummer from Nirvana Dave go yes Dave of course of course of course early on set yeah Jeopardy for couples like Bonnie and I and and the time you have
00:46:32
to answer the question is actually 45 seconds and you get to discuss he was who was she was on that show the the soap opera Opera no not Dallas the other
00:46:44
one I don't know I once sat with George and Barbara Bush Nam drop in Houston outside and they were a little long in yours but the name would come up like well you know the the people and then
00:46:58
Barbara would uh close her eyes look up like this for like a minute and not moving and then come down with the name but it was really an interesting kind of
00:47:11
just look and stare and then just well that was Jill Masters whatever good one bar sorry I don't want to do I don't normally do voices on this Bonnie and
00:47:24
Terry good stuff [Music] well you guys I guess we'll let you go but what a blast it's so fun talk about all this stuff this was wonderful this
00:47:37
was lovely so nice to see you fun I wish we were going to dinner this is like a dinner basically with no food we just next time we'll do it um so uh probably
00:47:49
don't know the answer to this are you go did you guys go to the 40th did we running each other there or no I think
00:47:54
we were there it just like it was like 3,000 people just like it was a Sea of Faces especially at that party you couldn't even move was insane um so that's to that do you plan
00:48:08
on going to the 50th and would you wear the same stuff you wore to the 40th I totally I totally will all right I
00:48:15
always I always dress like a chist so smart you know yeah well it's black it's easy and you anything between my legs it's hey wait what
00:48:27
old you kept it clean until now yeah yeah it was a family show you ready for this it go like this I apologize I apolog Bonnie and
00:48:38
Terry Turner the the uh I don't know you guys are so humble and normal it's hard to go uh some of the greatest you know
00:48:46
um Arc typo uh a big part of the zy the last 40 Years of American Comedy and film I mean right thanks I could bring out icon or I can just stay with an
00:49:00
important part of Americana film whatever you want to so last thing I just want to ask is you're not currently in production are you actually you're just in your house
00:49:13
and and relaxing yeah we're relaxing until probably November we're watching cuts of the show and doing editing notes and things but we're doing it all on Zoom I
00:49:24
know this is my job this is where I was right yeah it's great yeah and then I yeah get Paula behind the door um but anyway uh I don't I don't even know what that means you guys look great thank you
00:49:39
you look wonderful and you sound wonderful we're doing good is is just like readr for me
00:49:44
just right by the table um we yeah for the amount of damage I've done to my you know how much I like beer on an airplane one one final thing I remember we're going to fly and I don't like to fly I
00:49:57
think it was from LA to New York or something and Terry was talking and Terry's is going well I have no no no
00:50:04
fear of flying I go wow that's great he goes but I only fly Delta that's the only Airline I'll fly thought that was
00:50:10
kind of funny I have absolutely no fear but I'll only go do you remember that Delta I will only Delta to this day I
00:50:18
like Delta one fatal crash and it was not and it was a a wind shear factor and they asked the tower to go around and
00:50:26
the tower would not respond and they landed in Dallas and the plane went down but most of the people walked off the
00:50:33
plane a lot of the people did and there were some fatalities but that's been the that's Delta Delta you walk off our
00:50:39
crashes I'm just buying some Delta stock right now I know a tip when I see it very good 10,000 thank you Terry thank you guys Terry Turner or our
00:50:51
guests and you guys have a nice day lots of love love you both love you both love you love all of you
00:50:57
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