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I'm Dana and this is David and up next we're very excited Our Guest is Tim
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Meadows enjoy Tim Meadows everyone loves Tim Meadows is an old buddy I just immediately
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interrupted you Tim Meadows an old buddy of both of ours he really is I interrupted back Tim Meadows
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it's like tennis go ahead I'm gonna be quiet I'm gonna zip my trap he's a great guy good looking that
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matters and Showbiz is unfortunately and he has done a ton he's got to be rich
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because he's always working at all times on many things uh I knew him we had a
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great time during SNL we talk about that you know he and I bought a um motorcycle I bought a motorcycle that
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was Chris Farley's recently online and I didn't know who I'm bidding
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against but I finally bought it and then I got a text from Tim saying dude you just outbid me so we're online bidding
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against the world I just thought Farley's old Harley from Chicago I remember this
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shoot I'd like to be cool to just have my living room or you know whatever I
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just and then he goes hey I don't have anything at Chris's and I said oh I was
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bidding against you and he said can I have it and I said I I mean I said just pay me what I pay you can have it
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because he doesn't have anything of Chris's and he's from Chicago and they
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were really really tight also Dana the Oscars now we discussed the Oscars a little bit last week but before Tim is
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on we have to say that we taped him a little bit before the Oscars so if he doesn't comment on it that's not his
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fault it's just that's the way it shook out right so don't be at home going shut
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up Brian I'm just gonna comment on it just keep listening let me comment Dana what would you have done just be
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honest well you know I mean Ed O'Neill who will be on our podcast soon said you just
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always take the big man off his feet so I would have just aimed for beneath the knees and just got
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the person off the feet yeah you know on their back I think I'd be if it's Will Smith he's
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that big I go the first one's a freebie and then he walks back up the stairs and I go and
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he hits me again I go the second one I'm gonna I'm willing to look the other way
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and then toward the end of the Oscars he's still beating me up I go on the fifth one but I think what Chris should
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have done when he's coming up the stairs that's when you make your move because
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you've got the upper hand like have you ever seen fights at stadiums the guy in
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the upper seats always wins because he's got the weight coming down on the guy so
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I think that's the way you got it I would have channeled the deer hunter that if he slapped
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meow I would have said please may I have another I just would have said ow ow but
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I'm such a colossal [ __ ] like I just tried to picture that scenario Dana I
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was like I'm pitching let's say I'm at the razzies one day and I'm hosting and
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then Corey Feldman walks up and do I knock the Fedora off his head I mean what do I do I I'm just playing this a
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million times in my head maybe comedians should take a beating you know where life beats us down maybe just Steve
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Martin's joke doesn't land whack get around yeah choke him out go put him in
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a sleeper put him in a sleeper I don't know by the way from last week's talk about
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it I know we just you know we can't talk with forever Will Smith to me nice enough guy and I think when you have a
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an image that you have to guard when you're getting to the stratosphere of stardom
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uh the rock Brady Tom Brady Will Smith like everything isn't overly calculated
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but everyone's telling you say the right thing here do the right thing you know
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what I mean they kind of have to play to the world now like I have to keep everyone happy and be this big star and
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when you deviate from that in such a huge way it because people I think in this day
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and age especially the last couple years really appreciate authenticity and sort
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of celebrities and behind the scenes and are you being are you like a real person
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and when you come out like that and do something so out of the blue out of character
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you almost question everything and you go wait what is going on here I think that's I think it's tough for Will Smith
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I don't think he's a horrible guy this thing happened I'm not a counselor I'm
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not that kind of guy so I would just say it'll it'll fix itself at some point
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between him and rock but uh that's all I have no more opinions what's like Finn
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is that his opinion I don't know in the Fast and the Furious you know where they're going across the canyon with the
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car upside down and the passenger goes was this the plan he goes this was always the plan and you just wonder when
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when will was getting out of the level the limo driver is pretty familiar hey have a good night tonight you know don't
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punch anyone on the stage I mean somebody snapped and you can always tell when somebody snapped that
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means it's not the plan just like that was not the plan whenever it was buried
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underneath went yo yeah and uh listen Chris is one of our one of my best friends and you love him and uh so we'll
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stay out of it but Chris I guess we're already in it but I will tell I went to
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an Oscar party just to lighten them yeah lighten it up a little bit before we get
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to Timmy and uh I the funny thing Dana is there's a Vanity Fair party and the
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the the interesting thing is you have you get told if you're going and then you get told if you have a plus one and
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when you get to go that's always you're always measured in Hollywood of how you're doing it's so
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crazy I didn't even notice it because I had gone a few times and I was going
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with rock probably or someone that had an invite so I didn't need to bring anyone and then I was informed oh I
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don't have a plus one I go that's such an odd thing to get an invite to go
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somewhere alone and then the next year I was invited at midnight because you get slots really half hour wow so I got
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midnight and no plus one I must had a horrible year uh because it's too thirsty to try to stay awake and set
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your alarm and then go at midnight hey everyone you're like a salmon everyone's
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pouring out to go to guyo series party after and you're like no I'm here so I
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got this year I got 9 30 and a plus one which is pretty good but there's some
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ears I said oh maybe I'll try to go to the Vanity Fair and they go we tried and
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I'm like oh gross you have to ask and they're like yeah it's just so crazy
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this year I go oh I can't even go they go yeah it's so bad dude I know my
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invite said drop by next week here said you can drive by and beep if you go really fast no when I went to the
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Oscars pre-pandemic with Mike Myers they all right we went to the Oscars presented we were at the Oscar party and
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they said we're going to the Vanity Fair party I didn't have an invite so I
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wasn't going to go over there and go could I get in you know oh you didn't even go you could have
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gone what do I have to do Garth I'll do Garth to get in could I would like to
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get in they go uh there's no Dana Carvey and then you mess up your hair and slow
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the turn and go is there a Garth no it's like from the movie I'd like to get by
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now and I'd have a little amateur stun gun for a Wayne's World fans I'd like to
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excuse me I'd like to get by now and then I would just shock the guy yeah we
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went to and then we went to a party after I was with Theo Vaughn the comedian and I wrote that goat roper
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with me and then we went to a guy who's serious that's what rock was so we saw him we saw a bunch of people
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he's just sitting on a patio like Jennifer Lawrence Woody Harrelson who's
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super cool and so we just went out there and bullshitted with him but he seemed all right I don't want to talk too much
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about that but I I think rock is gonna be on fine land on his feet and uh I would imagine he would want this just to
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blow over because you don't want people to think one thing when you're doing stand-up you just want to do your
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act and you don't want him to keep yelling out something you know or trying to get you because there's really not
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that much funny to say about it and it almost gets too serious so it's better
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to just buzz through your jokes what we've learned uh in recent times as a society is that stories go ballistic and
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then they fade away all of a sudden it'll just be behind us and just wait for that time you know yeah I mean I I
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have to say I watched the Grammys last night and it was everything the Oscars the Oscars had great hosts and Chris was
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great but obviously it had that debacle but the Grammys was amazing like the all
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the music was brilliant I mean it really was one funny thing and this is not taking away from Trevor Noah because
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he's a cool dude I saw him actually there the other night he uh he's hosting but what do you do you're
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the next guy to host so the jokes are kind of tepid only because you don't want to cause a national worldwide
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Ruckus so he's like hey Billy eilish is eilish really your last name no probably
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it's actually it's a really good name it fits you and you're a great singer and
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everything's going well anyway let's look at this table I'm like are these
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jokes I think he's just giving compliments because you can't do a joke anymore you know what I mean he's
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probably so scared that someone's gonna get offended on Twitter with their fingers up going you say the wrong thing
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dude and we're gonna dig 19 years into your past I laughed my ass off I was at
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home he said hey folks how you doing I don't know what the way he said it or
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something I was like that is funny what's that good stuff good stuff all right let's get on to Tim uh great dude
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this is longer than Tim's episode so I think yeah I'm sorry we don't have time
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for Tim Meadows tonight he's been bumped off his own podcast [Music] you mean the one where we had a guide to
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Trump and I did Biden yeah the reason I said yes to that because I knew I don't have any natural
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discipline but I knew if I said yes to that I would actually look at Biden a little bit and get some hooks but in the
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writing of it it's it's what I call a hot oven politically Biden you don't want to ding
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him too much because I had this line of like do you think there's a crisis at
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the border there's no crisis at the border how do you know good because it says so on the piece of paper
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who gave that to you the man who's the man the guy he comes in you know the drill come on number one the guy comes
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in number two the two part number three come on people I love how he gets mad at
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you because you don't understand what he's saying but yeah I did do that and
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that was kind of flat because if you're doing an impression and you don't get to
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do your rhythm then you're just stuck in jokes and then it deflates the balloon it has to be a
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marriage of the Rhythm and the top of it above but but you know with ladies man I'd like to jump ahead okay sorry I
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wanna know I'll say this first yeah the thing that I love about it though is
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that it it now gives everyone a hook into doing yeah to do and buy it and like a normal
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guy on the street now can do that Rhythm and do Biden to his friends and I think
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that's that's huge you know that's that's a trick you're right Timmy once
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you get a hook and I would do Lauren based on Dana's Lauren or whoever I don't I didn't know everyone it spread
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like Locus I I don't think anybody doesn't do Lauren from the history of
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Saturday Night Live I wonder if they did it in the old days because once you hear
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it it's so funny just to talk like him it's so funny from my personal history
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but I maybe I misremembered it when I got there in 86 no one was doing it it seems remarkable smigiel has a good ear
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yeah the the hook that I finally told Lauren was him on Wednesday at the board kind of doing the sketches back and
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forth picking the show and he would say I still have no [ __ ] First Act he would hold a card that Whitney Brown
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had it was anyone the the the the pig and the Goat anyone we did we didn't think it was very good
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Lauren I I thought it was breathtaking [ __ ] I got him from that I still have no
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[ __ ] First Act and that's where it came from and then I think smile was bouncing off me and then everybody did
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it but you know whatever I don't have to be the originator I don't have to be
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here I wonder if like the original cast had like a different version of Lauren and
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what you had because you definitely had like the superior you know elegant guy who was interested and like I wonder if
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he was like that when he first started with those guys you know like if their impression is like a quicker like
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Wittier version of that I do know that the first year Lauren was like this guys we got a big show tonight let's try to
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get it going and then by year five yeah lifetime limousine you know Paul and I we
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sometimes we go and we just buy socks really I mean he had a car he had Eugene he had a driver I mean he was an adult I
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want to come by 88 for dinner number 88. never underestimate the value of lasagna whatever
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system where I should live and he goes I go my rent's kind of high like 900.
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David I think it's where you live is important he always does your name pain
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but I would pay and I'm like well you're not paying me enough to okay um I'll get it I go well I have to pay
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it every month and he's like oh I didn't know I don't know how that works
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my rent was what was like 20 22 000 a year and I think I was probably netting about 35 in the first season and happy
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happy to be there the exposure Alone um but he anyway S I was gonna say he had told me at one
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time uh it's better he was like it's better to uh live in a place you can't
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afford because it makes you work harder to keep it oh I didn't hear that one
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oh yeah that's funny that's a good one that's pretty I'll do anything to keep
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these countertops I will not let go of this [ __ ] marble I will do another show called tina
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Marcy the book of Lauren page three what do I say here I don't know Lauren I'm
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gonna fly now you don't fly Marcy stop it see you guys get me going Tim is a
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great uh you know audience when are you going to Lauren's office and and I go on the board and I go
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and I look for my update and I look over to where the cemetery on the left where
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it's not in the show it's everything that got cut you wonder if it even got
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moved if it was even a debate it's just exactly in perfect alignment was and I
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go I'm not in the show this week and then I look over and he goes lifesaver or popcorn search I would look at I had
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the same experience I would see Church chat in the First Act then a Wayne's World then Hans and Franz after updating
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I'll [ __ ] kill you no it's a it's an emotionally violent place for the best
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of us but I just want to because we're podcasting just very quickly explain it
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to people who don't understand we go to what we read through in a little room
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well it's like 50 people we read sketches for hours each sketch gets a 3x5 card with the the name it would be
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church lady or Gap girls whatever would they say Leon Phelps or Leon Phelps I don't know
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and then they're on a bolt giant bulletin board and then there's these it's sectioned off First Act second act
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third act and so then he starts putting them up and you'd see your sketch go up
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and then someone would say something he'd be pull it away from the wall they
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place it where the no the no sketch not getting on the show area and sometimes people go I like David's and he'll go
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back over anyway I just want to set that scene for it put your job on the line for for receptionist but the one thing I
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liked about Lauren in retrospect he was like a coach I had in high school because I think he loves sports
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metaphors and so to get a true compliment from Lauren was really special he was not one to pass them out
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Dana is this ever going to work you know that'd be after you know yeah um it'd be really nice it would be like
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you know really really funny that would be a good thing I was like Rudy sofa you
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were like Rudy the entire time yeah yeah I just you were not you became the the bad boys of Saturday I thought that was
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funny when I got you and Schneider and you were like the bad boys and the true bad boy of that cast was
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Tim it's him I I've I've hung out with Tim a little bit and heard his some of his stories
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and there's this street side to Tim it's not any ego it's not break a doe show
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it's just some you just he has a side of him I don't know if it's Detroit or
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something but Tim is can go yeah you will want him on your side in a fight because I Tim were
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you getting on going down to beat up the guy from The New Yorker or whatever only
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if someone [ __ ] with him Tim's not trying to pick a fight but you know yeah
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yeah yeah I just yeah I grew up in Detroit so I kind of just don't I have a very low top you know very low tolerance
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for like when I'm getting [ __ ] from people I don't know what happened when I told
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you about Dana but yeah I mean something at a baseball game with your son maybe it was a professional game oh no a
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basketball game basketball games yeah yeah we were we were pulling out of this drop this parking lot and it was
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kind of crowded should I tell this story I don't know it's not I want all I
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wanted this I want to hear you have to be fascinating we have three and a half more hours just tell it yeah I know this
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is the last one no I really this is great stuff Tim no it it I was pulling out of it after a Bulls game in this
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parking lot and with my son and his friend we just saw the game and it was crowded and we were all trying to move
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through the the parking lot and then this guy just like would not let me through and like I was like oh okay you
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know whatever you know and then he pulled up next to me and he told my son to roll his window down and my son said
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he wants me to roll my window down and I was like no don't don't worry you win
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dude and then I was like no roll it down yeah he rolls it down and the guy goes uh hey you think you're special you just
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get to move in and out of here like you want to we're all trying to get out not
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the right thing and I go well first of all don't you tell my son to roll the
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[ __ ] window down and yeah I am special you're gonna ask anybody in this [ __ ] parking lot everybody knows me
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[ __ ] and he was like yeah you're special huh I was like yeah you want to get out of the car we can get out of
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this car right now we can go at it [ __ ] and my friend we're sitting there just looking at me
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like what the [ __ ] is going on you know I was I I could not believe this guy was
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talking to me like that in front of my kids first yeah and then second like he was telling me like he had the right to
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get out in front of me like we're all trying to get out of here you know I like that he you don't even fight the
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special part what she was hoping you would you go I don't think I'm special
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because yeah you do you go I do think I'm special he goes um [Laughter] the first day I met lovetts I had almost
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the exact same verbatim exchange I was Tim and John just come on [ __ ] let's go right now the reason I like
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that story is because I avoid conflict like we were talking to Chris Rock and he talked about how tiny he was as a in
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high school or so I I want like when I was 14 went to high school I went I was out for
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D basketball which is like you know there was DC junior varsity varsity so D it's not a joke but our Center was five
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foot three he controlled the paint but my point is this I'm not kidding it was
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[ __ ] basketball so I was five minutes I was can't say that little people I was
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five one 92 pounds at age 14. uh-huh and you were were you bigly probably small I I had my
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growth spurt if you call it a gross person in high school like probably in like 11th grade I think I got I went
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from like five seven to five ten or whatever like in my height and then but when I was a kid I loved
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Sports and I could play sports well in my neighborhood like with my friends and [ __ ] like I could play
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quarterback I could like I was good you know and then we played Little League football and everybody else it was like
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grown men showed up little league football like these guys were like six one [ __ ] 220 bearded 14 year olds and
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the coach at one point I was a scrub and I accepted the fact I played like defensive back and I was like I was a
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scrub and I accepted the fact that I was a Scrub but one time in the coach they they didn't they ran out of tackling
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dummies and then so they wanted to do something great around so you became the channel you put me in the middle
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and they ran blocking drills around me [ __ ] that that's how much of a scrub I
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was man now when you say scrub in this context well I think I know what you mean but this what is what is a scrub in
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that context it means it means like not second string you get to hang out like my my best
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friend was a good running back so right it was like okay well he's friends with
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this dude so we'll we won't cut him because he plays hard and he also let us use him as
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a practice dummy so I love I love flag football man I loved I was a running back flag football and I was yeah really
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good believe it or not last time and as soon as tackle football came in it was forget this it's over you know get it I
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was pretty fast too much of Iron Man but I'm from Detroit also but I'm also a
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colossal [ __ ] so you just never know I thought I thought you were a phoenix guy
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I but I I was born in Bloomfield Hills oh and then uh that's in Detroit I guess
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I know that for four years it's outside of Detroit and then I said let's move it
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out when I was four and my dad said he had a wagon train going Arizona it was we were four six
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and eight and my dad was sort of you know here and there like jumping around and he goes we we I got a job in
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Scottsdale so we all moved to Phoenix and then he goes I don't have a job and then he left
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and then he left and he left my mom and we're like I go later I said can't you
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just divorce her in Michigan where she has friends he's like too easy too predictable
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geez he's kind of he's kind of fast on his feet I see where you got your wit I
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mean and no remorse well we were well in my day well first of all I have three older brothers beating the [ __ ] out of
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me plus her dad so I was pounded night today which made me have a lot of anger but it would come out verbally and in
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great school I got the big kid Steve lead to be my best friend and he was my enforcer and I actually had a club
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called the Great Club in fifth grade Jesus had a moniker there were only three it was Dave Marquez Steve Lee and
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me and everyone wanted to be in the Great Club we say how do we get in the Great Club I go you got to be great that
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was fifth grade so Tim stupid I've been asking I wanna before we get into SNL
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and and growlings or second City I've been curious about because I want to paint a picture of you in your formative
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years I call them like from age three or four to twelve and influences the things
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I'm interested in are movies or theater or music what was influencing your your eventual
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career choice and also just for fun uh you're if you got a bike that was really
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special to you or toy that you remember or you know so anyway you don't have to
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answer you could do it you could you could punt on this one or just um no no like what was your first movie
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that you remembered seeing that affected you or TV show well I think you know like when I was younger
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Jerry Lewis yeah and was hysterical to me and my not a professor on TV yeah yeah cousin Vinnie even some of the
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black and white it's even some of the like black and white stuff that he did
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we used to just laugh at you know yeah but I think like the one movie that like was like influential where it was like
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whoa I like this movie and what these people are doing was Blazing Saddles oh yeah I saw it yeah and then
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I went to visit my brother in college so I was like probably 16 and he was at Eastern Michigan and he was an usher in
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this movie theater make to make money and so just to give me something to do he was like just come hang out and watch
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this movie you got to see it it's really fun and uh I was at the theater though it
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was it was in the theater yeah and watched it all day I watched every show really yeah yeah I went with them
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in like in the morning and stayed until it was over with I [ __ ] loved it I couldn't believe what I was seeing I
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still think that about it you know it's like whoa and Clevon little was the star
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and then I did a sitcom with Mickey Rooney in New York in 1981 my first job in Cleveland little came on as a guest
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star and I was Starstruck but Scatman Carruthers and and you know Mickey Rooney probably never saw Blazing
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Saddles but I kept wanting to talk to Cleveland about that film and you kiss his ass yeah I kissed his ass I was
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trying to get stuff out of him see if I could get a job tell me if you guys laughed at uh when I went and saw
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accidentally my brother took me to Life of Brian and I thought it was so funny and I came out
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of nowhere I was like I didn't really get it it was English but it was still
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silly and funny and I started to get into it going this one's pretty funny too and I K I had no
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expectations so you know the other ones I like animal house and all that [ __ ] but when I saw that I was like oh I'm
00:26:52
such an Exquisite palette I understand all the European comedies too and what about people on TV like you
00:27:01
know for me it was seen you know geez uh laughing or yeah Wilson or Carol Burnett
00:27:09
or the Smothers Brothers yeah yeah and you guys and bleeding into the 70s uh you know there was Steve Martin going on
00:27:16
TV and uh you know um just this whole Counter Culture started to happen with Carlin becoming a hippie and prior and
00:27:25
there was all that movement in 75 with the beginning of SNL full size yes see I did that I was just talking about stuff
00:27:34
I bring it right back but what are you what were you like into a commercial or something like you know
00:27:39
I don't even know if we have commercials we're gonna have so many apps we have to
00:27:43
have special special things where Dave and I'll go into a chamber and just read
00:27:47
for hours no it's all we do is Dollar Shave and manscape those are our only two sponsors whenever
00:27:55
Timmy gets into a good um story we go into a split screen and we do a commercial while he's on mute and then
00:28:02
we go come back let's tell him that no don't give away what we're gonna do but
00:28:08
who uh were you um were you like an animal house that kind of thing or were you Monty Python or were you Saturday
00:28:14
Night Live or all of the above yeah all of the above I totally I like I read like um National Lampoon magazines all
00:28:23
right right right I forgot about that you know yeah and it was all when you would buy them back then like especially
00:28:30
where I grew up I almost always felt like they had they had them by mistake in my store where because it was like
00:28:37
they had nothing else like that but they would sell them new to Playboy magazine
00:28:40
because they thought they were like because they had nudity and So eventually cartoon nudity right
00:28:48
and also like photos because they had this thing called photo funnies wow and they would show they would show titty in
00:28:55
it yeah I called them whack-off funnies titty you mean bosoms or breasts titty has a playfulness to it I don't know if
00:29:03
it's offensive but it's kind of like titty oh here's me looking through
00:29:06
[ __ ] photo funny so what I don't even look at the joke boobs I'll worry about that comedic purposes
00:29:17
later I want to go back to his childhood what was your favorite meal macaroni and
00:29:23
cheese spaghetti Pizza as a kid Lane Cuisine McDonald's what was a special treat or a special dessert in your house
00:29:31
trash Retreat I would have to say uh well I mean of those choices I would say macaroni and cheese always works
00:29:42
my earliest my my earliest memory is like uh waking up after waking up from a nap and smelling chicken being fried in
00:29:53
the kitchen oh it sounds like the beginning of a sitcom song or some kind of Tennessee Williams yeah I love Good
00:30:03
Times by the way [Music] did you live with JJ Walker I thought good times was hilarious
00:30:12
you know what I thought JJ Walker was a hacker we could cut anything you want as a kid
00:30:21
really hack no I thought he was funny I liked him better on this show than when I saw him
00:30:29
doing stand-up when I was younger like yeah I thought he was funnier on the show I had a bone to pick with him I'll
00:30:36
finish your thought I have a I had a problem with Jake whoa not really but I'm playing the Westwood Comedy Store
00:30:43
I'm coming down from San Francisco because George Slaughter saw me up there I had a good set I was so green I was in
00:30:50
college I didn't know anything I bought a corduroy suit with a corduroy vest and
00:30:55
then I got invited to do a spot at the Westwood Comedy Store I had a girlfriend at the time with me there I went up and
00:31:02
bombed like you know epic I didn't know how to get out of bar I did my Star Trek
00:31:06
bit everything I'm drenched in sweat Dead Silence I go over I'm in a booth I
00:31:11
sit next to the girlfriend at the time and she's scooched away whoa and then
00:31:16
they said get JJ Walker he I think he's gonna walk the audience so JJ went up on
00:31:23
stage turned to me and said watch how it's done young man which I don't really blame I'm not
00:31:29
really mad at him at all but that was uh you said JJ Walker I got a little triggered so I'm just gonna take five
00:31:34
minutes sort of I'm going to take a cool bath this happens a lot in the podcast and
00:31:39
I'll be right back everyone triggers Dana everything everything triggers me so that's
00:31:45
probably that's probably the only time someone said get me Jim JJ Walker that
00:31:50
was the last time he's he's gonna walk the room he walked them you don't want to walk the room JJ
00:31:56
Walker you know on Cameo if he says Dynamite it's five dollars more right is it worth it well
00:32:06
it's worth it I feel I don't know I have a character because I wanted to be like
00:32:10
Larry the Cable Guy I think he has that great get her done I have a character character I'll just do one line it's new
00:32:16
but it's intentionally bad red red neki the redneck comedian okay I'm red red
00:32:22
Nikki the redneck comedian I married my sister only because Mama took me down come and get some
00:32:30
it's to come and get some mama said what do you want I found it you found it
00:32:37
mama said red what do you want to do what do you want to do with your life I said I just want to live in a shack and
00:32:45
drink beer all day mama said don't dream so big because you always end up disappointed come and get some there it
00:32:53
is come and get some I gotta catch phrases I just don't have the platform did you Workshop the the catchphrase
00:33:03
that's pretty good come and get some well I have this other podcast uh called
00:33:07
fantastic my son named it but I I kind of hatched it on that we almost call it come and get some it's surprisingly uh
00:33:15
it's positive it's it's like life come and get some you know even though what
00:33:19
he's saying has no relationship to it so you know how the creative process whatever all right here's another one
00:33:25
Tim ready this is it's a little undercooked but it's for uh it would be for read through uh I say like a joke
00:33:33
like I used to say bless you when people sneeze now I say oh [ __ ] we're all gonna
00:33:38
die rack them Rack Em is a good one because you know when you play pool and you hit the a pawn you go rock them
00:33:48
yeah so we got rock and we want to come and get songs Timothy Timothy Meadows um yeah now there's this section where
00:33:59
you you've been influenced you're dreaming you're like 18 19. when do you first
00:34:05
kind of say to yourself I'm gonna try this or was it a slow process yeah when
00:34:10
does it cross your mind to do comedy for real for real was uh I was I was in college at Wayne
00:34:19
State University and that checks out because I I did a Wikipedia dive yes is Wayne
00:34:29
look me up yeah we come prepared on this podcast I know for sure Tim is this yeah
00:34:36
yeah so you're you're getting you're in a radio and television program like I
00:34:41
was in you're not in theater at that point right or both you're doing both
00:34:46
yeah no I was doing both and uh okay I was into radio and I'll tell you a little Side Story was I really was
00:34:55
Howard Stern was doing his Radio Show in New York when I was on in college yeah and it was one of those things where it
00:35:03
was like can you do something funny like this guy is doing you know yeah and so I it was like
00:35:11
the one way I thought okay I could like sneak being funny into being a radio DJ um yeah and so yeah I tried to do that a
00:35:21
little bit in college but then I and so that I did too by the way yeah yeah and but that was what I I kind of wanted I
00:35:30
was like oh I can maybe try to be funny you know because I was funny around my culture friends and stuff I was like the
00:35:36
funny dude everybody else was like cool or athletic or smart yeah or whatever chicks like funny and most people that
00:35:45
are funny with their friends get that wake-up call when they try it and then they realize
00:35:49
they're not you know like most people that go with stand-up amateur night and they're like
00:35:54
I'm the funniest guy at the office you know when uh Pat goes into the coffee
00:35:57
room and everyone goes and so then they go I'll just keep it at the office because you don't know my
00:36:04
references but that's where you're breaking through you're doing it and
00:36:09
then you you've got a little nugget of something that keeps you around and they keep you around too so what did
00:36:16
you do I mean for with this thought where did it evolve to where you got on stage to get laughs
00:36:21
well I took these improv classes because I read a story about uh this teacher in
00:36:28
Detroit who had studied under Dale close I and I knew Dale close his name from being a fan of National Lampoon radio
00:36:38
and all that [ __ ] and and SNL that [ __ ] so I was like oh yeah you know so I was
00:36:43
like oh this is like I had a reference to something that you know not a lot of people had a reference to yeah so I took
00:36:50
classes with this guy Jonathan round and um and then we I I did took his class he was the first person to kind of go
00:37:01
you you're doing something good or whatever and then he put me into his improv group basically and this is in
00:37:09
Chicago in Detroit Detroit still okay yeah Dell close no this was uh Jonathan round okay he
00:37:19
took he studied under devil clothes is a famous uh Second City teacher yeah yeah considered brilliant at his job and
00:37:30
and where is he stationed in Chicago he was uh Jonathan round was in Detroit the main Dell close so you sort of like
00:37:39
went from JV to meet with the real guy yeah yeah because what happened was I mean it's
00:37:47
it's a long it's I mean you can Google it and read I don't know this is your show
00:37:55
how do I I mean I just wanna just tell us how you're feeling like besides the
00:37:59
logistics what are you feeling are you I mean like you're excited I I think someone someone said you're good someone
00:38:06
said you're funny it's huge yes yes and I was the and and so I told I was
00:38:12
telling my friends my real friends about it like I took these classes and I'd get
00:38:16
on stage and we make stuff up and I'm really funny you know and like they like
00:38:22
it and stuff and then my friends even started to come and see the shows and stuff and they validated they were like
00:38:28
you're good you know so it's going up now yeah it's like it's going yeah and
00:38:32
so like there was points on stage working with the people that I was working with because we were doing
00:38:37
long-form improv and we were doing short things and games and singing and making
00:38:41
the stuff you know on stage and there was nothing like that in Detroit so people would come in see it because
00:38:47
there was no other game in town it was only us yeah exactly so we have recurring audiences of people that would
00:38:53
come and see our show and though and that was where the spark came from me he's like you guys know like being up on
00:39:00
stage and feeling like you cannot do anything wrong you make the right by the way words you make the right improv like
00:39:09
oh nothing like it and so by the way every everyone everyone understands kind of I'm sorry to interrupt him but that
00:39:17
that comedy is hard to do stand up but improv is so [ __ ] hard and and people I think they get it but that Whose Line
00:39:26
Is anyway doesn't convey how hard it is to think that faster I did it for fun
00:39:31
with some comedians and I was like what the [ __ ] is going on I'm pretty fast but
00:39:35
I go it's a whole different muscle you have to learn and if you're good at that
00:39:40
you have to be proud because it's it's hard as [ __ ] you do get it is like being
00:39:46
an athlete right that you get acclimated your brain gets kind of fluid you know Robin Williams just uh come up I've been
00:39:54
doing stand-up in San Francisco in the late 70s he was on Mork and Mindy and even just come up on stage and start
00:39:59
riffing with me and he was like triple time you know I was just like but it does make you start to pick up it'll
00:40:06
wake you up but so go ahead your experience though you became known as with uh the chocolate thunder in Chicago was
00:40:15
that your nickname no that's a basketball player who is who is that the Dawkins or
00:40:23
I was called the alabaster assassin I was called Casper The Fruitcake Lauren called you that can you get
00:40:35
Casper The Fruitcake in here because they used to say you're Lauren's boy I'm
00:40:40
like he doesn't put me on I wish he'd hate me and then I'd be on every week
00:40:43
which ones you're in his office every week with a single tear coming down Lauren doesn't like complainers no I
00:40:50
made that up so uh we're starting to try to I yelled it I yelled at Downey once
00:40:56
what a mistake Downey the famous head writer you yelled at him I was one of the smartest people I've
00:41:05
ever met Jimmy in that go ahead was there a thing you were known for or a hook or did you start to develop like
00:41:12
well playing freeze tag he's really good at this or was it just the entire structure I think all the different
00:41:19
things in the beginning I think I was really really good at introducing comedic ideas
00:41:26
and then uh and I was also really good at supporting other ideas and adding to it
00:41:34
you know yeah without taking away from the person doing it and so I think people really got
00:41:42
the that people trusted me on stage uh because I wouldn't I didn't abandon
00:41:46
scenes even if they were failing right you know or undercut or all the different childish Shakespearean well if
00:41:54
you're a good that's good team player [ __ ] when you can see improv and when
00:41:58
they come to SNL I think they're pretty good at that because they're just been
00:42:02
doing it and uh stand ups they always said had a harder time sharing the spotlight but you sort of figured out
00:42:09
like I don't talk at this part I think this blob over here says something and then back to me have you
00:42:19
ever had people say to you oh boy you guys must go crazy on that Saturday Night Live just like saying whatever
00:42:26
comes I think it's all improv I go no improvisation on Saturday Night Live you
00:42:30
you do all the improvisation backstage in writer's rooms and riffing and then
00:42:35
up there you're locked in unless you're in in one which when we get to your
00:42:40
ladies man character you had a lot of time with a locked shot so you could be a little playful you could take
00:42:47
something in the moment but not when they're cutting around you know so or when someone else involved you don't
00:42:52
want to throw them so let's right just for we're um we're gonna take a 20
00:42:57
minute break and start no but they uh so and then I'm gonna press record so you're yeah we should start soon
00:43:06
um oh whoops no that's it's going we got a recording so this how many years
00:43:11
between this and then you getting on SNL you know how many years were you in the
00:43:17
trenches and was SNL your big when you go to Chicago are you Chicago yet I I just get to Chicago just get to Chicago
00:43:26
and and get into the Improv scene there because Dale close is actually there teaching so I started taking his classes
00:43:36
and I started to I get put on a team our team becomes the best team at the club um we're like the second best Herald
00:43:48
team in the city you know which means nothing to you guys but it was like a thing in the Amazon community that's a
00:43:54
big deal there's a group called we were called Grime and Punishment and uh uh
00:44:00
and then um I was thinking Crime and Punishment Crime and Punishment punishment come and
00:44:07
get some I was in the Coconut kids for a while we didn't go very far I'm sorry go
00:44:12
ahead hey was that with favro I didn't know favro did improv to be honest yeah
00:44:16
if everyone was there during that time too oh okay but yeah so so I was doing that and I was taking classes in Second
00:44:23
City this teacher that I had named Jeff machowski said I want you to audition for the touring
00:44:30
company uh our audition for the touring company got hired with a whole bunch of people
00:44:37
that are now famous people um like Amy Sedaris uh Jane Lynch uh like who else got hired like uh
00:44:48
Stephen Colbert got hired that Year Stephen Colbert how did he end up doing did Farley come around did when did
00:45:01
Farley appear ance or Mike Myers first year my flowers came after my first year touring he was
00:45:09
like the next year he was auditioning and I met Farley like doing doing Improv uh over at improv Olympic when I wasn't
00:45:19
on the road touring and so I got to like improvise with him and his team yeah you two were the best of Second
00:45:31
City show in a bus or cars you go all over you play theaters all over the country you you like oh really oh okay
00:45:40
you rent a van they drive you you do a tour of like colleges and small theaters I didn't know that and you learned the
00:45:48
old classic sketches and you learn a bunch of different ones and then as you go along
00:45:54
you change your running order depending on where you are or whatever and so you get this library of Second City sketches
00:46:01
that you learn and so and I didn't do theater so I had no it was my only training of like I got to learn this and
00:46:09
I'll say it on on stage and then repeat it the next night as if it's a fresh
00:46:13
idea you know yeah uh so so Second City was really my the theater training that I got I didn't I never did any play I
00:46:23
never did anything else me neither it was just stand up what how much money were you made how old are you at this
00:46:29
point how much money can you make doing this were you just barely able to um you know
00:46:34
no I I like when I was trying when I was touring I was you know it was pretty decent I think I was probably making
00:46:42
I'd say for the whole year like 17 000 or something like okay so after tax would be maybe nine thousand I don't
00:46:51
care so uh you're making a model efficient living yeah but I was also doing commercials in
00:47:00
Chicago so it was another like lucrative thing and I actually did I was modeling
00:47:08
I did some modeling work when I was in Chicago I am not surprised what you had the looks you got the looks The Ladies
00:47:16
Man is the ladies you're living your best life at this moment you're young
00:47:21
you're touring you're making money you're modeling I mean you know I mean
00:47:26
yeah it's very exciting there's only that one time of your life the life is very simple then it's the
00:47:33
world of Tim and you're just a man about town [Music] everything was dependent on my looks
00:47:42
that's that was the only problem Lauren said it he's an extremely good looking
00:47:47
it might get in the way um we have a new good looking cast member so write him into those sketches
00:47:54
we put him in a loose suit he's very very built we put him in a loose he's
00:47:59
built oh we don't want to ever show his legs he's always taking his shirt off
00:48:05
when do you get on a call to get on SNL do they audition everyone at a second City and then they pluck well they came
00:48:13
out and saw Mike Myers like a couple years before they saw me and a new mic back in back then when he
00:48:21
was dating or he was living with uh Robin yeah and then uh oh that far back yeah and then um okay
00:48:32
they kept coming and so after that they started coming out to see Farley um and how are you I was in the cast with
00:48:41
Farley we did three reviews together meet with that cast uh Odin Kirk was there all the names we keep hearing Odin Kirk
00:48:54
[ __ ] so they they got you Odenkirk and Farley out of there yeah yeah wow for the show so what year did you come on
00:49:01
was it 90 or with Farley or 80 90. February February of 91. and you ended up staying 10 years
00:49:16
which was a record at the time [ __ ] hey did you make good money at the end or no or not really in your head
00:49:24
um I think I made decent money at the time I you know I yeah I thought I think I made decent money I don't think I was
00:49:32
like but yeah but again just like when I started I had other things going on when
00:49:38
I was leaving SNL so yeah you know I had money coming in for myself you work Non-Stop
00:49:44
I was uh also selling crack uh at the end of my career just to keep a lot of good customers at
00:49:52
30 Rock you gave up a lot of good customers to do SNL that's horrible what so you got to get back you want you
00:49:59
walked into which I call I think kind of one of the most intense times of SNL because you had the
00:50:06
leftovers with uh Phil Hartman and myself and Mike Myers and so forth and then and then you
00:50:13
had Sandler and and yourself and uh Rock and Spade and Schneider so it was it was
00:50:20
intense so when I came in it was like four cats four regular cast members or something so you came into like a big so
00:50:27
it took you time I'm assuming to get the necessary time in front of the audience
00:50:31
for them to discover you and you to get that level of confidence right here was the hurdle when I first
00:50:38
started on the show first of all you know to both of you guys you were I mean I was fans you know I was a fan and I
00:50:49
was a fan of both of you like I've seen both of you guys on the show I'd seen
00:50:52
David Duke stand up I had I was a huge fan and a huge fan of the show so coming into that cast man I swear to God the
00:51:01
first two or three shows I was just like I it was like a dream yeah and I was like how how what
00:51:12
what is happening and I swear to God I thought they were going to come into the meeting one night one day and say that
00:51:19
dude over there is not supposed records he sold records in in Chicago about three years ago he's not supposed
00:51:30
to be in here pitching ideas you're almost happy just watching you're like I can't believe I'm an 8h just this
00:51:37
close to watching the show yeah I guess I'm supposed to be on it I have no idea
00:51:41
how but it's fun just to be here I I one time went nine shows though being on anything but maybe one update
00:51:51
and wow I thought it was unfair and then my dad goes who told you was fair that's the first time
00:52:00
that's the first time he saw him since he left you in Phoenix he got in his car and he drove away yeah
00:52:09
life's not fair wasn't I supposed to stick around I go yeah and he goes that
00:52:14
didn't work out too well yeah and guess what that nickname Cupcake fruitcake
00:52:18
whatever it is Casper fruit cake get a new moniker kid hey Lauren good luck with that little
00:52:26
puss I bailed so uh so you get on and then you're you round all these people and the show is
00:52:34
really cooking and all we had just all kinds of stuff happening Wayne's World
00:52:38
was happening you know and Toons is the cat and so how did you find your find your place what was your first little
00:52:45
inroad of a character or a sketch that you did where you landed it felt great or do you remember the moment where you
00:52:52
felt like I'm I couldn't do this I'm gonna be great on this uh my third show was Alec Baldwin and uh
00:53:01
great uh comedian I forgot who the musical guest was that year but um I wrote a sketch called Cyrano
00:53:10
with me and Alec and Jan and it was like it the my surprise it was the first time I had something it
00:53:22
was only my third show in Shoemaker or whoever moved it up in the run through for read through it was like the second
00:53:29
or third piece and I was like holy spirit is the placement there is very important too I didn't even know that
00:53:34
for a long time that's that's nice the first 10 sketches get the most attention
00:53:39
well everyone wilts after two hours you're wilting so the first first hour is very Prime but that place and also
00:53:46
you're like you're basically following like who like usually it'll be a Smiggle
00:53:50
sketch or or it's like the first couple are like strong here's a monologue
00:53:55
here's this and so you get a feel for like oh the show's gonna go like Superman and so they put you at that
00:54:01
high and so my the Lauren started to read the the stage directions and which was uh you know Tim is dressed
00:54:13
as Cyrano and he has a six inch wide nose and then he [ __ ] belly laughed at the
00:54:20
same direction and then he looked down and down the table and they like looked at each
00:54:30
other and sort of like nodded oh nice he kept reading and then we did the whole sketch and the joke of the sketch was
00:54:37
that I was hearing no I spoke for Alec Baldwin I gave him love advice while Jan was his the woman he was trying to court
00:54:46
but I talked like Barry White and I hid behind the bush how did he talk what did
00:54:52
he sound like what would he say I mean he just talked basically like this hey baby yeah you gotta bend over
00:54:58
and let me see that love you got you know whatever I remember the line I love it and so and then and then
00:55:06
Odenkirk gave me a good out which was because we were doing it like it was like uh we were doing it it it flowed it
00:55:13
was funny and then old Kirk said you should be sitting in a chair at the end while they're making love sort of bored
00:55:20
and just reading the paper and talking to her very sexually like and so it's
00:55:25
them like kissing and you pan out and you just see me going yeah baby yeah I love you
00:55:33
God the out is so important on those things it's a hilarious you know Tuesday that Tuesday night when
00:55:46
we were I was writing because I wrote it by myself uh and also remember this is another fun experience like interesting
00:55:51
experience was that when I when they this happened a couple times when I got something in past read through where it
00:55:59
was like being considered for the show and they were bringing you know they bring you in and ask you questions
00:56:03
remember those moments oh yeah oh they go they come back Tim can you come in and you go oh everyone goes [ __ ]
00:56:11
we would like to see you in his office it's always someone with a slight Peter
00:56:16
Laurie Lauren would like to see you and talk to you in his office I go in there and he says he goes uh he
00:56:29
asked me who helped me write it and it just had it had my name in Odenkirk and I said you know he goes who
00:56:37
else was there anybody else and I go no I I wrote it I wrote it by myself and Bob gave me the out you know and he goes
00:56:44
okay okay good thank you and then they let me out and then another time I got a sketch on he it was I wrote it by myself
00:56:52
and he brought me in maybe he goes like who helped you write the sketch I'm like
00:56:57
Tim who sent you this I I wrote it by myself and then he goes do you you know he was like do you mind if Tom Davis uh
00:57:03
watches it and works with you on it that's what he was getting at like someone watching he loves the writer
00:57:09
with the comedian you know well because the audience should know that you're on
00:57:14
stage doing it and if you wrote it someone has to be in the booth kind of directing and saying right which is hard
00:57:19
because it's really your eyes and ears what you would want so they're just
00:57:23
trying to oh they need someone more experienced yeah that's really what it was too was like I think he just wanted
00:57:30
to know like you know if I I talk to anybody about the sketch that I might want to have them come and help me with
00:57:37
it and if not then he was going to sign somebody yeah and I remember one time Tom Davis was like you know he was like
00:57:44
who wants to help him so I was like uh who wants to help Timmy with this sketch and Tom is like I'll do it I'll do it
00:57:51
that burnout um what about one time Lauren brought me in and he goes David who helped you read
00:57:57
the cue cards and I go I read them that's all Dana the thing he goes I guess he can read Franken could you do
00:58:09
something with Casper cupcake because I don't know if it's gonna happen Casper
00:58:13
the unlikable cupcake cupcake I know you're the alabaster assassin and it's a
00:58:18
wonderful thing but could you please Marcy by the way I have to give Timmy it's
00:58:24
hard to write a sketch and uh maybe because you're in Second City you're
00:58:28
better at it but it took me my I wrote a sketch for Lovitz called the puffer fish where he got he
00:58:34
was a scientist but he got mad he turned into a puffer fishy pop out you know for
00:58:39
John and it was and he goes yeah write it you know because I was like it was like my first four
00:58:45
uh shows before we went to summer I got I got picked up for four and then it was
00:58:49
over just to see if I had any game which we found out I did not and so I go Johnny goes that's a great idea and I go
00:58:56
it is it wasn't that good he goes right he gave me no help because I probably
00:59:01
had seven sets it was probably 28 pages and uh reads are there I think Shoemaker
00:59:07
went is this your piece of [ __ ] I go yeah and he goes can we chop it down to about 20 I mean I don't know I'm like
00:59:14
and he goes I think there's too many sets I'm like well if anyone would tell
00:59:18
me anything all I'm used to is writing stand up so I don't know what I'm doing wrong and they
00:59:24
go well there's too much to fix here but good luck with it it's a hopeless cause
00:59:30
but we appreciate that you put pen to paper oh and Dennis goes spot if if is spudley if you and Schneider don't get
00:59:38
any on in these four shows I think it's curtains okay thanks I mean they'll send
00:59:42
you they'll send you back on a Greyhound out of here okay you're not even gonna
00:59:46
be okay write me some update jokes I mean get off your ass you got nothing in the show maybe slip them under my door
00:59:53
if you don't want to talk to me all right one time I told Dennis I had turned down this commercial for a lot of
01:00:00
money Christ sakes currently this business will eat you up and spit you out nobody cares okay it's all about
01:00:08
securing rectangular greenbacks he he was right and I regretted not doing that commercial you'd get the new writers
01:00:18
write me some update jokes before you get two in the mix here I remember my my uh my first week on this show to uh
01:00:26
watching Dennis Miller in the rewrite room on a Thursday night come back to the room so funny [ __ ] here everybody
01:00:34
uh [ __ ] has new [ __ ] hole Yeah a Solaris room yes an insult to every [ __ ] writer and actor that was in the
01:00:45
room he spared me too because he I think he even went and you're new I'm not
01:00:49
gonna [ __ ] uh I'll give you a pass today to kid or something I know one time you guys you guys saw him do that
01:00:55
once and everyone was laughing so hard I don't I'm farly almost just fell down
01:00:59
they're not buying this shine thing okay Chrissy you know that guy falls down
01:01:06
anything else Rock you're no you're no Eddie did he say to Chris Rock You Know
01:01:10
Eddie he goes right I think he goes Rock you're the angry black guy Meadows you're not even angry you're just a
01:01:18
black guy you're the nice one where's that gonna get you then he goes Spain
01:01:22
nothing he looks around Schneider cop machine now it's over your family they're not fine
01:01:29
whatever this guy sakes tell some jokes what are you doing up there all right you're embarrassing your family okay we
01:01:38
all embarrassed we all get them taken down you're embarrassing your entire neighborhood okay
01:01:45
and then he would walk out of the room man yeah because he didn't have to be at
01:01:49
the meeting he didn't have his mouth he just spray and he'd be like in a suit
01:01:52
you know the cat and I are gonna go catch uh The King and I downtown at the Orpheum
01:01:57
and his hair was all squat we're all sweaty and greased up we got Staples in
01:02:02
our head we got State till midnight do the read through he's gonna hit or so
01:02:07
with Al Baldwin yeah Christ sex the risotto curvy to dive for oh wait I had a question for [ __ ] Timmy well I want
01:02:15
to get to a lot of things okay like if you on the new SNL you were there longer than me but obviously it's evolving but
01:02:24
you played someone like Erica Badu at suddenly now would you present day be able to play a female
01:02:34
oh that's a good question man they definitely do women playing men they do women playing men all the time
01:02:40
now yeah oh yeah I think I think if it was a I don't think I would do it if it's an impression I
01:02:48
think if it was a character like me just being this a woman you know what I mean
01:02:53
lady you know what I mean like what what do people I don't know the rules yeah it's just yeah we're like
01:03:10
I just started back doing stand up like a few weeks ago man and I'm telling you
01:03:15
it's been fun but it's just been like what the [ __ ] like myself before I say things yeah it's
01:03:22
scary you say the wrong thing it's over right there's so many big words and
01:03:27
little words for everybody and figures of speech you don't know if that's gonna
01:03:32
be a problem you know I mean even in 2015 when I look back what I was doing I'm doing Chinese accents I'm doing all
01:03:40
kinds I've just distilled it now I can do Russian and I could do French British but that's
01:03:46
about it you know I just had the table you know I was doing Indian accents I was doing the cook by cardiologist
01:03:54
that stuff and I just think I'm killing you know I mean there were no rules and
01:03:58
then it just shifted so I lost 70 of my act in 45 days but have you seen that movies uh the only bad guys allowed now
01:04:07
are Russians or Russians a made-up Russian country or aliens aliens that's why superhero movies do what oh this
01:04:15
crazy planet of Asians Asian aliens what do you want what what I want to do to you is I want to kill you see that is
01:04:26
just a general accent right General it's Eastern European it could be Romania
01:04:31
what do you want to kill you now with the gun and you are good luck good luck you don't even have to be good at the
01:04:37
accident no just something like this it's better if you're not they can't pin
01:04:42
it anywhere yeah right I'm going to will kill you someday I will kill you but not
01:04:47
now because I want you to think about me putting bullet in your head at some point in future you hear footsteps you
01:04:55
look outside maybe you have snow cone you one eye you're blind or you come from other side lights out but I love
01:05:03
you it's a real snow cone so I want to get to Tim's uh this is a Dana you kill
01:05:09
me man uh well you're making me funnier today Tim because you're such a great
01:05:14
audience he's a good sometimes these podcasts are pretty pretty Grim we've
01:05:18
done a few of them they get pretty Grim I'll tell you that much [Music] so Tim throughout the your years on SNL
01:05:29
he does Cone Heads It's Pat wins world two yeah so that you're in the movies uh
01:05:34
you do Bench Warmers which is one of those fun and Mean Girls you are hysterical and that's the principal
01:05:42
and then I don't want to jump over anything but then of course you have this uh one of the few sketches that
01:05:48
becomes a feature film and what I notice your Evolution or I left the show or maybe it hosted I came
01:05:56
back or I watched it and I saw you on ladies man I don't know which episode it
01:06:02
was but I just saw this like like the confidence and the and the audience loving you it just went like
01:06:09
that just snapped I mean it went to another level I was like whoa so what how did that evolve and when did you go
01:06:16
I'm on to a killer a killer reoccurring character which is so fun on SNL and who
01:06:23
brings up a movie I um I did I mean I think I got more comfortable naturally as as the seasons
01:06:33
went on me me too by the season where David and I and Normie were still there you know that year yeah I think
01:06:45
that yeah that like crossover here five six like that 95 yeah why six yeah that was a year that I kind of felt like okay
01:06:56
I I already know how to show words I know how to write I just got to be more comfortable and
01:07:02
have more fun on camera I mean I just started to relax really and then ladies man just it was just a
01:07:09
that was an easy character for me to to to do because I had been doing it for a long time but I didn't tell people about
01:07:17
it because I used to do it to make fake phone phone calls I used to use it as a voice you know and so
01:07:26
I told a couple of writers um about it and they came up with the ladies man idea and and
01:07:35
they would ask me questions and and I would just answer you doing that voice about you know relationship questions or
01:07:42
problems or whatever and then it just clicked man I was like even when I do it now if I feel like
01:07:48
doing it if people talk to me or in interviews like it is like you know like with any of the things you do is like
01:07:54
you just know that person you know how the character talks you know what it would say it's musical it it the the the
01:08:01
way I'd say Courvoisier it's it's very hypnotic and musical yeah you know and
01:08:06
and so it was operating on a lot of different levels as far as just entertainment and funny
01:08:12
and so it it the minute we did it we knew that people liked it I mean it got laughs and then just we got letters it
01:08:23
was like the only time I really got like you know like a lot of fan mail basically go by that mailbox yeah yeah
01:08:30
and so that was Dana had a lot of me liked it um and then the whole thing of the movie
01:08:35
came up with Lauren Lauren brought it brought up assis uh me and uh uh no I wrote it with
01:08:47
um Harbor steel who is uh and I'm Dennis mcnicholas um and so they created the character and
01:08:58
then yeah Lauren asks if we'd be interested in writing a script first of all that was it he was like do you think
01:09:05
you can make this into a movie and the three of us were like not really you know I mean
01:09:12
it's funny we think that it would be fun but we we were like we didn't think it
01:09:15
was like a big enough hit that we would make them it should be a movie you know what I'm saying yeah like just
01:09:20
business-wise we were like well and then he told us to think it over and then the
01:09:26
three of us talked about it and we started just coming up with like what if we did this we haven't told a
01:09:31
backstory we have been told what his life is like or what his work life is like or put him on an adventure or
01:09:39
anything like that and then we said yeah okay we'll try it and then we wrote a script we had to
01:09:46
read through uh they liked it and then they were like we'll give you the minimum amount of
01:09:52
money to make it uh and then was it Paramount it was Paramount yeah yeah be Lauren Steele
01:10:00
yeah Lauren had a deal apparently so yeah so I mean that was how it was and it was really a
01:10:10
great experience you know it I I don't regret that movie at all like people still to this day
01:10:17
know the character they know the movie like when I'm traveling or whatever um and people like it I mean people
01:10:24
nobody ever is like yeah I think that character was disgusting or whatever you know and it just travels you know it
01:10:32
just travels around you know what the thing is yeah Dana like I was saying to you about
01:10:37
the the uh Biden impression is that it's something that people can do like you
01:10:42
gave them a hook yeah right and ladies made in the same way like people know it and it gives them a hook into a way
01:10:49
to talk or to do the character that's like the funnest thing to get on SNL if
01:10:53
you get one of those uh rhythmic catchphrase this made me laugh to me and I don't know where this came from but it
01:10:59
was on the Wikipedia page about Leon Phelps The Ladies Man and it said the describing the character he believed he
01:11:06
was the living definition of what women search for in a man and that's the classic cocky idiot like he was so
01:11:14
[ __ ] confident that no woman could ever resist him and the confidence he had is always really fun to watch just a
01:11:23
crazy confident character who is kind of Clueless in a way about its own so the character yeah I can see that being kind
01:11:31
of have a following as people see it over time yeah you know you know that and that that attitude
01:11:39
is a lot I I would like say I I like stove from you know or like I think of Bill Murray and doing uh
01:11:48
cavity Shack like that attitude of like he's Superior to everybody in the movie
01:11:54
yes he's the smartest guy in the movie yeah I know and so when he's his you trust his
01:12:02
ripping you know you know it's going to get you somewhere um and I feel I I kind of have that
01:12:08
attitude when I'm doing Leon Phelps like he's the smartest dude in the room can't
01:12:14
make any mistakes doesn't he doesn't know if he's offending you doesn't care
01:12:19
if he's offending you that's why you know it's so much fun to play a
01:12:23
character like that because it's hard to go through life actually like that you
01:12:27
know yes but uh um one thing that I I don't know this sort of dovetails but I
01:12:32
remember we were doing a benefit for Robert Smiggle for autism and just kind of sharing a dressing room
01:12:38
and we just got to start talking about stand up as a baseline for a career like and I always tell everyone I told love
01:12:45
it's anybody who's uh Second City improv player who's funny who wants to put
01:12:50
together an act they have all the tools to do it because they are if you could score an SNL you could do it so I don't
01:12:55
know if you began but then you you develop yourself as a stand-up comic and you've
01:13:01
been doing it pretty consistently here and there we did that crazy show in Laughlin Nevada
01:13:09
oh man just imagine just as far as the circumcision there's so that's a that's
01:13:13
a movie in itself but it's David it's five in the afternoon or something in an
01:13:19
empty stadium with high high winds and bright sun in your face outside always in daytime is a killer
01:13:28
yeah it may have been dust but it last just goes straight up in the air yeah and when there's bright out you don't
01:13:34
even look any you look anywhere but the stage and I hate seeing the people because as many laughs as you get you
01:13:40
always connect eyes with someone going yeah you're like are you even listening
01:13:46
to what and you think you're killing and you always find someone that goes oh no
01:13:50
you're not for me I all in my head Tim is over in the in the uh on the wings
01:13:57
and I'm up there I'm going I am so awkward I'm so bad right now I don't
01:14:02
even care this is the worst set I've ever done and I'd look over and I see
01:14:05
Tim and uh it just was it kept thinking what does he think this is I don't want a bomb in front of
01:14:12
this SNL guys knows how to do this but it was just one of those nights you just get to check
01:14:20
and we walked away yeah you gave me a ride back to the city too yeah I love we had a great time yeah
01:14:28
because we don't get to spend that much time together where it's like we had a
01:14:32
couple hours to just talk and stuff and chill you know so that was that was the highlight of that for me oh oh totally I
01:14:39
was so thrilled that you you took the ride with me because I I love comedians I love talking to them and part of the
01:14:44
reason we're doing this is because too many years go by because we're all just busy
01:14:50
just doing [ __ ] and you never hang out even if you went to a dinner at a restaurant they're playing loud music
01:14:56
it's still you you know you just want like I know a lot more about you right
01:15:00
now than I did and I knew a lot man I knew a lot Marcy uh Marcy Klein would love to have
01:15:08
her as a guest um so you you've just gone on your resume is huge you you work you're
01:15:14
you're doing stuff I always see your name popping up you're doing this series
01:15:16
you're doing this you're doing that so how are you feeling now just in the just
01:15:21
doing them coming back to stand up now um yeah I'm just coming back to doing it
01:15:27
now um I've done a couple gigs some would love it we've got it in uh Katan
01:15:33
and uh Mitchell yeah we we did a tour a few years ago with spade and Rob and uh Sandler took
01:15:43
us out which was really fun yeah I could imagine highlight plan for that crowd highlights understatement I also was and
01:15:54
it was fun to see every I mean everybody is so good and I I was the least experienced of everybody on that tour so
01:16:03
it was really fun for me to like I came out first like after Schneider you know introduced the gig and seeing
01:16:11
it and so it was you know I'd come out and I had a lot of um Goodwill from the
01:16:17
audience you know so I feel like oh yeah and then they were excited yeah man it was just so much fun to like watch
01:16:24
everybody and you know rest in peace Norm I enjoyed watching him just do his [ __ ] every night he
01:16:34
always did something different he was one one of a kind and so brilliant yeah you know it it does seem that it comes
01:16:42
down to at least for me like it took me I'd say 80 80 to 100 shows to get where
01:16:47
you were talking about relaxed having fun in a situation that should you shouldn't be allowed to do that and live
01:16:53
performance and stand up too it's so much uh just internally enjoying it and being
01:16:59
relaxed and not needy and also just Clarity uh you know I've been doing some
01:17:04
open mics with my kids and stuff and most of them mikers they just the audience just misses it like what are
01:17:09
you trying to say so just the clarity of the setup and then actually they can see
01:17:13
you're enjoying yourself but the main thing is you know try not to try is very
01:17:16
difficult but once you get confident doing it then it becomes electrifyingly fun when you're kind of like yeah I got
01:17:24
this folks you know I noticed the SNL thing but let me ask you guys this you can cut it out if you want but like when
01:17:30
you how do you how do you get into like I know writing new material like do you take ideas that you have and
01:17:41
then just expand on them on stage or do you like completely think out the idea before you get on stage and do it
01:17:49
David I'll let you take that one um I do I take I think what I want to say and I hope I have enough of a germ
01:18:00
and maybe an out but it's always undercooked and then I do it and then if I and then I trim out
01:18:08
the fat sometimes I'll tape it we type it out and then I'll I'll look at it and
01:18:13
go I don't need that I don't need that and then it gets a little tighter and
01:18:17
once it actually gets into my act on a consistent basis I try to rip on it but I sort of have to get it
01:18:24
to memorize the way it works and then I can screw around with it but but finding
01:18:30
it is tough and you almost have to tape because you say one thing you like and the rest of my ACT I'm trying to
01:18:36
remember that one line to remember and I just if I don't tape it or anything and I hate listening to
01:18:42
myself so it's a real horrible yeah the only thing I could add to that is what I
01:18:46
told Levitz is just don't be in a hurry to get through a bit like say you have a
01:18:50
bit now that works whatever the topic there's always more and just stay there
01:18:55
you know I always try to remind myself sometimes don't be in a hurry just stay
01:18:59
there and the other thing I like to do is find a 20-seater there I don't know what the number is
01:19:04
but I'd say 20-seater and then just bring up your yellow pad with just ideas
01:19:11
you've had and tell the audience you're doing that I call it podcast here's an
01:19:15
idea I had I don't even know if this is funny and then you're automatically
01:19:19
they're on your side that seems to be a really good way to develop material once
01:19:23
you're out there in front of a packed house and everything it's way too late
01:19:26
something about a 20-seater uh where you just got the yellow pad they know you're
01:19:31
just [ __ ] around um you know I think it lines all the time and then George Carlin always said
01:19:36
write everything down because writing happens when you're when you're going to
01:19:40
a movie or you're hanging out or you're having it's not when you're trying to
01:19:43
just write every single tiny thing down uh that would be the method I use I'm
01:19:48
sure you use variations of what David and I just said yeah I do that too I like I'll write notes down and then I'd
01:19:55
go back and look at it and think about well what was the original thought that made me laugh that I wrote this down
01:20:00
yeah um and the thing I've been doing now like I'm gonna I'm in Chicago so I'm
01:20:05
gonna try to do some open mics tonight I'm gonna do Zanies tomorrow uh what I've been trying to do is like
01:20:13
uh Colin gave me this advice which is couching the new [ __ ] between two bits that I already know works yeah and then
01:20:21
like you were saying Dana like give yourself time in that bit like okay here's the new thing I'm working on
01:20:28
it's probably gonna die I don't know what what it is but even if it fails and
01:20:33
I got this other thing yeah that'll give me back you could look at uh Chappelle
01:20:38
uh even Chappelle five years ago or whatever he was never in a hurry you know to get through things and when
01:20:46
you're young and kind of scared you just want to roll right through it as I've
01:20:49
gotten older and more confident I'm just going to sit with this idea now and not
01:20:54
when the the I call it the second voice it's giving you a real time report card
01:20:59
when that just shut that up and it's all tied into the same thing having fun and
01:21:04
confidence I'd say confidence in where it comes from how it happens is somewhat
01:21:10
mysterious but when you have it the idea is I'm Ted Meadows get the [ __ ] out of
01:21:15
my way it goes back to the Detroit guy I'm coming on stage for you [ __ ] and guess what I'm the
01:21:22
[ __ ] I'm [ __ ] funny and I'm really smart I may be kind of too handsome for a stand-up
01:21:30
don't let that get in your way you [ __ ] but that that's the thing tonight when you go just I'm Tim Meadows
01:21:37
man yeah yeah yeah no Dana you're the best man thanks David thank you Timmy it's great talking to you I miss you I
01:21:46
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01:22:06
this is hello David and Dana my name is Rob and I'm from Belgium Belgium nice we
01:22:12
are blowing up in Belgium Dana love your waffles okay I can't step foot in Bulgaria we're too
01:22:19
big okay big fan of the podcast question is uh both of you what do you consider to be the others most under and
01:22:27
overrated impression that's from Robin ritzen uh I'd say you're most underrated is
01:22:35
Michael J fox from casualties of War oh yeah that's your most underrated yeah I'm not a big impression guy and so
01:22:45
this question is probably more for you but Michael J fox I had a lot of pride in and I think it helped me get on SNL
01:22:52
uh I I trick them into thinking I was like Rich Little because I had one impression I also did Tom Petty but on
01:23:00
the show you you get a lot of um you get assigned your Dave Turner from Soul Asylum I did Kurt Cobain did Brad
01:23:09
Pitt there's a bunch of those where you get assigned every week so they're not
01:23:12
that great uh but they're just more looks you know and then Dana would get really into him so if I said Dana's I
01:23:19
would say uh I I like uh pretty much all his I don't think any of them are really
01:23:25
overrated I I do like when you do a Ross Perot or a George Bush where it's something I don't even know if they
01:23:33
really said maybe they said it once and you run with it like there's a Ross Pro
01:23:38
where you go let me tell you one time what does he say something I can't can I
01:23:42
finish one time that's like a baby brown that's right so maybe you know when I was just doing a walk-in
01:23:53
impression for Dana a little bit ago I said uh I talk about a mouse and I go he's smart the smart you know so if you
01:24:00
can find one little tiny thing that sounds like him that's fun but Dana's
01:24:05
are all underrated and they're all good and he finds these little one lines and
01:24:09
little hooks so that's the hard part even if Trump or any of these guys didn't say that or not gonna do it kind
01:24:15
of got crazy with George Bush uh it's such a great hook and it sounds like the
01:24:21
person that the actual person almost needs to say those things now to sound like them because it's so famous it's
01:24:28
more famous than the actual person yeah and there's two ways to look at an impression like abject accuracy like oh
01:24:34
my God it's like a tape recorder that's perfect and then there's something
01:24:38
that's more of an abstraction and funny and takes Liberties and so uh maybe I
01:24:43
just get bored but I do like to extend them and make them into one sound like Trump well that's
01:24:49
good that's why it works yeah but that's how it works especially on SNL because
01:24:53
crowds are waiting for something and if you do just a perfect impression it doesn't always pay off I think it's
01:25:00
always nice when a host comes in and they have something Secret in their grab bag
01:25:03
and they can do an impression so you write a whole sketch around it when they get to theirs it's always shocking they
01:25:08
can do one yeah and it gets a big uh Applause it still is a is it's almost like magic to me though when someone
01:25:15
like Frank Caliendo can sound exactly like Morgan Freeman like eerily so I love impressions of all stripes
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