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well good is good I I'm wondering when the first time you did the makeup test and you became the character and when
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you looked in the mirror you know obviously the thing is just start to go what was your reaction was it emotional
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almost it was actually funny you should ask yes I think before well the first time the first test was at the protozoa
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offices and Adrian Moreau is the designer of this movie he's brilliant and um getting into it for the first time it
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was a big labor to get all the parts of Montreal and all that and Derek looked over my shoulder and he
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said for the rest of your life what is happening that's what I thought what's that mean and then I thought I
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know what you mean actually because you can't really Divorce Yourself from me creating this character for better or
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worse or people remember it yes you can be remembered for something for the rest
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of your life for any number of reasons well there's never been a movie that explored people suffer from obesity not
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in this way no I was I thought about this long and hard I I remember this way yeah the closest I could think of and
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this might be reaching for it was Dom DeLuise in Fatso oh interesting comedy from the 80s right or 70s it was really
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emotional too yeah and and I I brought I drew inspiration from John Candy in Planes Trains and Automobiles yeah you
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recall when they were in he was deriding him and he says go ahead you can I'm a big guy you take a shot at me yeah but I
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like me my wife likes me I'm good enough I mean and he looked like he was going to crack in that moment he was and that
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was a beautiful piece of acting right there I don't think we've seen that kind of sensitivity attached yeah owning who
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you are when you live in a larger body like that yeah and I I love that he was a college professor you know and and
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there was a heartache always underneath almost the entire it was just there you didn't have to play it even you were
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being light like you're being light with everyone you're saying I'm sorry and but
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you know what I was all in really your face so the suit kind of uh goes away everywhere because you're just watching
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you to see what's up because in absence of it you know being a success with our finely tuned brand seeing makeups versus
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CGI creations and you can tell that where the dotted lines are and you automatically go you have to make a
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decision about suspension of belief I'll let that one slide and but with this it
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was a straight ahead analog makeup yeah with the exception of maybe a light um digital Curative if
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like a piece of fabric on your shirt it was acting up in its own movie or whatever that would fix that later or
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there was a scene when on the bib sort of shape or the collar when Charlie goes down the hallway you go to bed he takes
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his shirt off before and you know anyway that that was the full suit was very heavy and
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um you know anyway apart from that what you see was what you got but if it didn't
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work there was no movie and the rule was this is a makeup and costume that will obey the laws of physics and gravity
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it um it will not be what we've seen so frequently which is uh a foam light foam
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Halloween costume kind of silhouette that an athletic actor wears and you sort of defy gravity and bounce around
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the way and yeah you know I mean that's that's a different movie it's a different genre I have mixed feelings
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about what's funny about that and what's not no you look like it was very belabored to do anything that guy was
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Ill he was not well and you really I mean when you were wheezing and and you know I felt suffocated you know I was
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really and when he the heroic moment with his daughter where he's I don't know I don't want to give away the
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ending but when he gets up that was just that put me in a puddle of Tears I'm I'm
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feeling it right it's having the strength to get to your feet yeah and do what you need someone who loves his
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daughter so much and it's impossible and he's going to do it anyway