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here's a little song I wrote about oh good upcoming guests okay [Music] can you guess who Our Guest is is that it oh uh it's Paul Giamatti yeah winner my friend
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I was wondering where you were going with that you didn't really go anywhere well these are called micro songs they're like my micro Impressions
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they're songs but they're just micro songs because I don't want to hog the spotlight from our incredible guest Paul
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Giamatti I love hanging out very cool dude kind of guy you would hang out with uh have some pizza with in New York
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super it was very fun to talk to we get into paranormal oh yeah he's into the paranormally he has a podcast coming out about it and he really gets in it and I like that because everyone has had some
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experience with something weird something that they want to tell you about yeah he had a lot of good stories
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about that he's been in a lot of uh obviously the big movie [Laughter] sir did someone said
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um and he's been in uh oh he was in 12 he's a slave the feel bad movie this summer uh he was he's on billions uh
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thanks for doing all the Talking sideways was the major one um Adam did you mention Adams oh John Adams Johnny
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we learned a lot about JJ Adams because Adams we were laughing that you can't really tell if he's doing a good or
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impression or a bad impression because it's so long enough I'm Paul Giamatti he's very oh that's pretty good I'm Paul
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Giamatti he was so nice and he's had such an amazing career he does comedy and he does drama both perfect and
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really fun to talk to I would listen to this one don't don't press the pause button don't go over to some other
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podcast just listen and enjoy these 40 commercials Paul giamma hey that was good that's all I got I know it's a good one
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[Music] well I I think you've done very well I mean yeah there's quotes online I mean there's fans I mean you're like a you're a thing you're a thing you're like okay
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you had Billy Bob Thornton on you that's another guy who's a thing Billy Bob Thornton yeah well he's yeah he's like a
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serious funny guy he's like yeah he's he's amazing he's wait you had him on what oh on billions no I had him on I've been doing this uh podcast whoa for like
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two months yeah I know two months what the [ __ ] he's a newbie Paul did you have
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to do you have to take any special classes any courses or anything no I didn't I found that I didn't need to
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okay I'm learning on the job okay that's what we did you ever learned one thing this whole time and it's been a year and a half it's been a year and a half yeah it I think if you're uh if you're
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curious just curious about anything that's a good place to be in because uh you're I'm curious about you
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and I think I think the thing is that I I was like well I'll talk about all this [ __ ] that I never talk about like UFOs
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and stuff like that that's super interesting to me I can endlessly talk about that stuff Bigfoot and stuff like
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that like just endlessly so you know I love that stuff and I do too it's a good area because I like first of all that
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you're veering a little bit away from Saturday Night Live which helps us yeah and um yeah Bigfoot hosted in 2011. did he
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really that was John John Mulaney who's a size 14 so that was why they called him big fights but let's go back to
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Sasquatch you know I'm a big fan yeah let's talk about this stuff Dana because I think I'm happy to talk about it let's
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spend a little time on it here's my I'm happy to talk about Saturday Night Live I don't know that I have as much stuff
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to say but no your episode is great and we'll we'll save that that's a teaser okay I went over it it's it's was
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received incredibly well and you were very very funny in it oh yeah okay yeah good no yeah it's a great episode to
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hear from you yeah I want to jump in and say in your monologue you were like shot out of a
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cannon you were sort of like you're ready to go is it a little nervous or what whatever I think I was I think I
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was nervous I think I was also if I remember right I was really sick so I was I was sick as a dog so I think I was
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over compensating wow I think I was like I was like I gotta get myself really ramped up because I I was really unwell
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I had a terrible time to be sick terrible the only incredible thing about being sick and David I've talked about
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in terms of stand up or whatever your nerves go away because like I don't think I can even [ __ ] do this but I
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guess I'm gonna do it I'll just do it but I I'll no way I'll be any good yeah but I actually like being sick in some
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things or really tired too because then I don't over [ __ ] do it I overdid it there but I don't normally overdo it you
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know but I do think I was extra I mean I normally overdo it and if I'm sick or tired it'll cut back on my my overdose
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but that monologue In fairness for anyone I've posted twice Dana's hosted even if you've been there and you see it
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and you go I wouldn't get nervous you you hear that music in the back and you're like [ __ ] is this really it and
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then yeah you start to shake a little it's just too much it's like no I was very nervous doing the whole thing I was
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so nervous I didn't really want to do it at first I was like I don't want to do this they came and offered it to me and
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I was like [ __ ] no I don't want to do that that would be too I would [ __ ] that up that would be terrible I would screw that up I don't want to do that but you
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do get scale I think that's what I got yeah well you also um I think I'm sorry to harp on this but it was interesting that uh it was a blizzard that weekend and I think from
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your monologue I could gather that it was going to be hard to get an audience you don't even know if you're doing the show I think that's true as I remember
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yeah it was a gigantic blizzard it was a huge because you were thanking the crowd for even coming in yes we didn't know if
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we'd have a crowd we didn't know if and that's just one more layer of making the sick yeah shut the whole thing shut the
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whole city down and I think it was the first time they'd ever had the party afterwards not at a they had it in that
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studio oh a little mixer it was a little it was very much like a little bit never heard
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of it there yeah it would be so convenient yeah yeah just break open the whatever you're drinking right there on
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the old set yeah it was a little sad yeah spectacular well since we're on the topic Paul The Rocker I mean you got once you locked into these characters you're really really funny the British
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guy doing the gibberish uh the lunford twins with Fred armerson who he doesn't even remember that was really that I remember being the most fun I liked that a lot I thought that was really funny and they did all the sets really well in
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the costumes and the other people were so great so exactly like the people on those kind of Hee Haw type things and
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Fred Armisen was with you and he's like he was historical but yeah that's the magic of it is that it's just picking
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the show by Wednesday and then these beautiful sets and beautiful costumes and you never think it's gonna work and then the air show it's like hey we're
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actually we're doing I guess but we know yeah I can remember them saying like they were like what do you think this guy's hair would be like and I said sort
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of like James Khan the kind of like James con 70s perm that he had yeah then in two seconds they had that wig made and it was just amazing well they didn't have it made I I wore the James con big
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wig in 91.91 and I wrote on the bottom I said save it for future hosts but anyway you
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look great in it no they do that like that Danny you ever try on the pants and it says former cast member you know
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really say someone from 10 15 20 years ago because Farley used to wear once he found Belushi ones he would put him on under his own pants during the show and I go you're that's like a crazy person
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thing like it's lucky it's lucky yes but I can't I go how do you move in two pairs of pants two pairs of pants
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didn't bother them and he moved amazingly two pairs of pants they have a big bulletin board in the wardrobe area
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and they list your name and then they list your sizes you know waist size and and length and I was the only one who had reverse sizing so Lovett's and I have this funny long-term thing of
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reverse sizing because at that those days I was very slender so my weight so you're very slendered your legs are
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incredibly short no my leg well I they had me at 32 but I I don't like shorts oh super long legs I'm sorry I said no not super long but I was I had a small one used to say [ __ ] uh Rob schneiders
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from the bottom of his nuts to the toughest boots is 11 inches it's just I have a foot between the uh the knee bone to the hip bone okay
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femur to anklet you know Giamatti looks a little like Schneider which I think you said right somebody said something
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do I look more like him am I aging more into looking like him because I never thought I looked like him but I was
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mistaken for him there was a period of time where I was kind of Taken for him yeah it's weird I don't know what
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started it and I don't know what ended it but there was a definitely you went into it and you faded out of it it's a
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weird Gap that where everybody was convinced I was robbed it's not in Totem but maybe a little bit about the upper
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lip and the nostrils he has kind of an Elvis thing going on there he played Elvis in Japan we talked about that
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there might be something right in there I thought it was the eyes more too kind of the big one well if you listen let's
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just say this probably never happened there's a grown-ups three we have a Schneider Khan contract situation we
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call Paul all I need is 10 minutes in the trailer with you can you say maze maze you could sound like a smash okay I
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don't look like he's got it offended hair no I wasn't offended I just couldn't figure it out I was like that's so weird if you put us together there's
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no way you would think it was I was having dinner with him once the guy came up Paul Giamatti and he really that's
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the thing I always wonder is does it happen the other way no I'm not Paul Giamatti [ __ ] you hey [ __ ] you Robin was
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listening we're joking there's another little window where I got mistaken for Larry the Cable Guy which I actually can
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see more than the other thing that's 90 hat though at least three people thought
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I was gonna I love that one okay do you mind lowering your voice for a second and saying get her done get her done
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okay but I did wonder if people there was no mistaking him for me though that that would never happen why is that a one-way street but I don't use that hat he wore
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a hat right Dana yeah I don't have a face or a voice like I'm a completely a neutral person so I'm able to if I put a hat on and just doing
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I can walk amongst like a I don't know I don't have any you could put a nose on I'm perfect to add a voice or thing it's
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a blank canvas people people don't recognize you people don't immediately your voice nothing it's frustrating what they do is they squint painfully like
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why do I know that guy but I love being anonymous I'm not I'm not I'm an introverted extrovert but David and I used to be mistaken for each other a lot I could see that I could sort of see
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that same tribe he's got the Little Beard now and we both went to differentiate you guys that's a good
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idea I had bangs till I was 55. I said my wife said hey like my wife sits you know tired of having sex with Howdy Doody here okay let's
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comment back and do something although how do you do this Brill cream both of you guys have a good head to
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hair it's nice to see there's a lot of product there's a lot of smoke and mirrors if I came out of a pool you
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would you would comment to somebody you would throw up Jesus Christ is an Islander out there that Peninsula is
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shrinking I'm just in a dentist mood today yeah that's very interesting I'm Punchy already which is a good thing you go to normally or is that just is that urine's I we all well I love doing
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Dennis Miller I think he's brilliant I mean his the way he'll filter language like give me a subject anything uh or an
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idea anything uh to have it having a having an ice cream sundae for for lunch well that's it that's that's a good dietary Choice okay give me the 7 000
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calories split all right I'll put down on my orifice and hold my stomach for two hours cramping so that's a good way to spend a Sunday afternoon I got a freezer burn in my perineum you
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never said exactly David is a Heir Apparent to Dennis yeah he's doing this podcast his throwaway wit and and references so they're they're twinsies but anyway Paul what we love about you
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yes Paul's even talked yet wow this is fantastic we're getting this let's do a little bit Supernatural because I wanna I just I just want to tell people it's also on YouTube and you can listen
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to it Ching yeah because there's [ __ ] animation with it yes and there's animation with it we wanted to do the
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whole thing animated but that that was too expensive right that's just to point out people that they're talking about supernatural stuff and and waking dream
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states and then you when you see it on YouTube you're seeing animation animation some of the stories going I
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thought that was really cool yeah the animation's great and and that was really that was the idea and maybe
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someday we can do the whole are you allowed to show clips or you're not allowed I I don't you know they show the
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whole thing I don't know if they've harvested clips of your show and put them all around Instagram they do they put Clips up on the social media and
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stuff like that so but if you say someone in Washington there's a new possible Bigfoot or can you show 10
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seconds is that or is that a legal oh of like of of a person who filmed a Bigfoot in Washington that's a good question I
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don't know we haven't gone to that I think you can on social media but YouTube might be a different story interesting we haven't we've been
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wanting to do stuff like that because actually I keep talking to people of crazy stories and I want to record them and put that on and yeah you know which
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that would be fine but but showing like the chupacabra somebody filmed the chupacabra in like you know Arizona I
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don't know if we could do that wait sorry I'm a neophyte Chupacabra the chupacabra is getting around
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is it a serpent is it it's like a it's like a crazy little uh coyote-ish yeah coyote crazy thing that kills uh cattle and goats and it's a blood sucker it
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like drains the blood out of goats and cows it's sort of a Mexican it started like in Mexico and it's like a a lore
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that they say it's out there now it's all over like I saw it I saw something demonic so I'm at a Ranchi Farm place right we have a koi
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pond because it came with the house but anyway at the ranch upon at the Ranchi places
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so I see a thing bigger than a cat smaller than a dog creeping in slow motion to the koi pond right and I'm just looking at it so I sort of knock it looks at me it looks really chewed up
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and it had a demonic face yeah just like intensely scary I was told it's just a chewed up Bobcat so then I just banged the window it ran away and ran away I think that I think the chupacabra has
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horns I can't remember oh I didn't have horns I don't think I think that you're a copper you know Paul might appreciate
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the story Danny you can tune out but when in in grown-ups too oh my God a couple people remember that's our third
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reference to uh I know I know I know it's an expected to come up this month what was the box office uh gross
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domestically 165 165 minutes I think it wasn't yeah exactly that yeah uh so we have a scene where the grandma has a big beat up chewed up toe and she
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goes my toe hurts my toes and and and and one of the big I don't want to give the whole movie away but she takes her
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sock off and it's so big swollen and disgusting like obviously cartoony that we all react and then they go to you know I think Chris Rock says oh Kobe
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Bryant lives or whatever you know whatever so no Toby Bryant whatever so we do a couple everyone you know you cut
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around you go Spade here's three for you we do that so we get to Salma Hayek and she goes what should I say and I go just
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stare and go chupacabra awesome and uh and she did it and then no one laughed and she looked at me and I go I think it's funny I think someone will get it I think it's just great yeah that's great
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it didn't make it huh didn't make even a rough cut so Paul about Chin's yeah what is the stuff that floats you both as far as Supernatural is it uh
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people seeing ghosts uh aliens ghosts are interesting aliens I was super into for a long time uh Alien Abduction stuff
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which kind of doesn't really I don't think it happens So Much Anymore which is weird that it was again there was like a window of time it was like me
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being recognized for Rob Schneider there was a window of time where people got abductive aliens so that doesn't seem to
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happen as much but I'm fascinated by that and UFOs and stuff like that and Bigfoot the Loch Ness monster all this
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kind of stuff but ghosts are really interestingly too what's the stuff that you believe the most ghost probably the
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ghost stuff the most which is actually in some ways kind of the wackiest I don't know it's like but yeah probably the ghost only because I've actually had
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weird experiences like that I haven't seen a UFO and I haven't seen Bigfoot I want to ask you about that but what's
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interesting is when you talk to people because we have Irish relatives in our family they're not even saying it's a
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crazy thing uh they're just like oh we had to go some house we'd see a little girl in the dress and which we'd wave
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high to it and everyone saw the same image and they weren't even frightened of it it was just the ghost was there
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and that's when you kind of go well maybe what yeah no I think there's some places like in Japan they're super like
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99 of the population believes in ghosts and so everybody just accepts that you have a ghost and people will like leave
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out snacks for The Ghost and stuff like that to appease The Ghost and stuff like that do the snacks ever get eaten like
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Santa's coming I don't know I don't think so but I don't think they're thinking of each or something yeah but I
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have a question that's not to bum you out please but uh oh here we go all right now
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we've never taken anything out I could take that letter but they said there for a while that there was a theory and you
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might have heard this that some of these alien abductions were people that were had relatives visiting their room and
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they were dreaming it and that's how it would come out when they would remember it or that's what they were told or
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something Have you ever heard me that they would they would remember something that was happening and just just relative special like a little darker
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than that you know right yeah in the rooms I understand I understand so if you have you ever heard something like
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that yes I have yeah and that that it's all a kind of um there's a word for it waking dream state but there's a more so
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there's that but there's screen there's a thing called I think a screen memory which is which is when you invent a
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memory to hide something from yourself like that like what you're talking about because you don't you can't process that
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so you think it's something else so yeah people probably steer you to that so it
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tells me that too it could be that too but the thing you're talking about Dana is is called hypnagogic sleep okay which
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is sleep paralysis which I've had it well can we hear your your story I've def I've had it I mean I had one of the kind of Ghost Encounters was probably sleep paralysis which is when I I woke up in a
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place in a hotel that was very haunted in Dallas it's supposed to be one of the most haunted place places in the country
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and uh and I couldn't couldn't really move but I was hearing sounds knocking on the knocking in the walls and all kinds of stuff like that but then what I felt was there was someone in the room with me and then I felt like someone got
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in a bed with housekeeping yeah well I mean you know and then someone put their arms around me and I could feel somebody
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squeezing me and then I thought I heard somebody say don't move like that but then eventually
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I moved and woke up and it all disappeared and a lot of that stuff is characteristic they say of sleep
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paralysis the feeling of pressure on your chest that you can't move the feeling that there's somebody in the
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room with you and it's all brain chemistry it's gonna all be extremely real though it feels very real it's
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super real it feels totally real I had a double whammy but sorry I didn't yeah no no go ahead no no well I I I was in a
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hotel with my wife sent she drove Ranch and then I had the thing where I'm about
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to wake up and something is yeah well I think I'm awake but I'm I you know and it's pressure on me yeah the word nightmare comes from as a feature that's right horse laying on you right so then
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I woke up and said okay that's a waking dream state or I must have been in between you know so I use the bathroom
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so I go back to bed I'm I'm a little shooking up front so I'm completely wide awake at that point I processed it I woke up and then it came again except
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with more Force yeah so I woke my wife up and I said we gotta leave and we did there was a lightning storm outside in a dead skunk on the freeway with a kind of a way the whole thing was
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a [ __ ] nightmare Jesus Christ yeah no but that's a that's a big feature of it is the is the pressure on your chest thing and it's like why it does that I don't know you know but but certainly
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that's a thing that a lot of people say the alien abduction thing could be uh sleep paralysis
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[Music] well what about white noise what about white noise you mean like what is it you
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mean I don't know well I didn't know what white noise was but then there was this Boombox in my
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son's room he was he uh got a little spooked about his Rune so he moved in with his little brother so the room was empty but there's a Boombox in there and it's not on but it's 2 A.M and I hear it
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as if it's on between channels right what the hell can anyone hear this so I go in there and by the time I get to the room it stops but all the way there it was wow I've never heard of
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that I've never heard that kind of thing but there is it there is a thing terrifying it's called like electronic
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voice phenomenon I think EVP which is that people think that when you have it like sort of between stations or if you
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find the right frequency you'll hear ghosts talking people man lots of voices yeah exactly exactly or aliens and stuff
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like that and so there's a whole thing with people study that stuff it's amazing I've been at dinner parties play
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this game of as anyone I turned into some someone have you ever had a supernatural experience
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besides meeting me that's that's the joke but everyone everyone or an extraordinary experience was like but everyone has something oh there was that one night you know that's why your
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podcast chin wag should be a smash I think it's just chin wag right it sounds like a Chinese restaurant but my family no it's not the name is the name might
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not be the greatest thing but it's what we've picked and they went with it and they liked it yeah I was like
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yeah yeah I think maybe it was all day I have a question for Dana Dana quickly um okay when you say no no I don't
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it's just what you just briefly ran over was is the term nightmare meaning a mare
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laying on you yeah a horse yeah I've never heard that the night horse the horse that kind of comes in and takes you away so yeah it feels like a heavy you can't it wants to hold you down and
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you can't push on it the second time it was I love it pushing harder and then some people are spiritual like the these
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are trap souls and they're actually sort of disoriented themselves and they want to get take your life and your body over
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so they're just trying to get trying to get into your body no way they were saying
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I have a Paul question David don't get mad this one's for Paul oh uh okay so I like when Paul talks when I
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have my uh dreams that are scary I will hear someone in my room say something to me and I wake up to look and I realize it's so scary real they'll
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say my name or something will talk and I'll get up and I I must have just dreamed it yeah and it seemed real and it yeah or something I don't know because again that's the weird you can
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hear things with sleep paralysis too so I don't know maybe it's kind of that thing I'm just trying to get in the club with you guys I think no no no one of
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the other things I had was hearing voices in a room yeah where somebody had told me you can hear voices in this room
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and I and I used to it was a it was a relative of mine's house and I used to sleep in this bedroom just because I was
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like I wanna I wanna experience this and it never happened this kid one night it woke me up because I heard a voice and
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it woke me up then it wasn't going and I thought oh I was imagining it or something and then I would hear the voice it was two voices talking to each
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other I I had that on the road in um Wisconsin Dana I think I told you I did this gig and I was selling out all these
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shows it's no Ed is even part of the story a lot of comps are hard tickets but after the shows when I was wiped out from doing encores I go home and uh
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everyone I'm walking through the lobby like they're either you're so brilliant blah blah blah you're so famous whatever
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whatever you know so you're exhausted natural just yeah absolutely I've got carpal tunnel if I'm signing uh funkos so anyway I go in and they go and then
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Bobby got it on the road with me goes you know this house this hotel's haunted and I go it's a pretty nice hotel it's
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huge and I said oh no don't tell me that I that that scares me and we're here for three nights and then they have a
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company line that's how haunted is they go are you guys haunted and the waitress goes
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um we serve spirits in the bar and I go shut the [ __ ] up are you guys haunted you not get the question but they had her they're not allowed to tell you so oh really everyone Dodges it and
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everyone's like I mean people it's a you know people have said things but it's not I mean we can't because it scares
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people yeah it does but I think it'd probably be a selling point too for some people I mean but probably not enough
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people I was afraid of it but now I'm more fascinated have you guys ever seen a ghost because I have no I've never
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seen one and I don't know that I buy that the whole like the lady in green with this bloody head walking down the hall I don't know that I don't know that I buy that yeah I challenge that I draw
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the line at that I don't really know this 10 year old girl in a night dress a few times because it was the same house
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1912 it was built would come through the wall and just walk down the center of the bed you've seen that way yes and
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then you saw that yes down the center of the bed and then I told my wife what are you
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doing you know no kidding but I did I did see that and um and this was a thing other people had seen no and it's all in
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that same house in that same area no one's seen anything I'm a bad ghost my friends my friend said uh his wife collaboration saw a ghost it looked like a young waitress leaving the house right
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when she got home and he's like oh my God it's haunted did you you saw her too foreign
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I love this [ __ ] are there movies that terrified you like the Exorcist or whatever that are yeah The Exorcist is
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scary The Shining always scared me when I was a kid yeah yeah the shinings are scary when the first movie I can never
00:28:49
remember seeing was a movie I don't know if you guys have seen this movie Carnival of Souls are you big movie buff guys uh well I I am I would say but I
00:28:57
haven't seen Carnival Souls oh you should you should check it out oh it's got to be the early 60s I think
00:29:03
a lot of farmers black and white the blood farmers are goodness sickening Logan's Run last night so that's where I'm oh did they remake that or were they
00:29:14
talking about remaking Logan's room they might yeah yeah that was 19 mid 70s yeah
00:29:19
that's a great one Farrah Fawcett yeah Michael York yeah absolutely it's scary was it it wasn't supposed to
00:29:34
no no I I was just sci-fi I mean scary ones I mean The Shining I think is you know what about like The Conjuring although I don't I haven't seen one those modern ones are more [ __ ] shock
00:29:46
there's there's yeah and they're okay did you see this movie Barbarian I do not so you don't see them you get really freaked out by it I do I don't like that those as much as I love smart
00:30:10
science fiction like I love Alien you know yeah obviously 2001. I love smart science fiction I do too I like science fiction like that too yeah and it could be a little scary but but still
00:30:22
fascinating yeah just see a movie called edge of is it called Edge of Tomorrow yeah yes that's a good one that's a
00:30:30
really good one the guy just kept repeating everything yeah that was great yeah at this point I'll see anything
00:30:36
with Tom Cruise I mean he's won me over well he'll drop out of a plane he'll fly I mean he'll go to the Moon he's gonna
00:30:43
go into space I think he's gonna go into space I just have such a uh uh more appreciation for
00:30:51
him as he's gone on me too Top Gun was brilliant I mean it was amazing film saw it three times brilliant the type of film that you can't not engage how do
00:31:02
you not enjoy that and so at this point he's like the last movie star they say or whatever you want to call him he's got his own lane and now I'm just have
00:31:09
such an appreciation for him me too but I always liked him I always thought a risky business which I read I read for
00:31:15
risky business for which for for that part for that part yeah oh wow what a different when did you find out the audition he passed me on the way in
00:31:27
I go to Billy I said top that [ __ ] did you at that point he was a known guy because he's done uh he's done he done the machine gun machine running out the windows beautiful yes
00:31:43
beautiful beautiful I I read for it but I don't I don't think I got close to it I I had a problem is uh what do you call call it bad actor syndrome it's a bit of a
00:31:57
problem there's something you can do about that I can certainly get over that well I need a teacher and we could do it over Zoom because I think you could teach me
00:32:09
I was known as a great actor for Amadeus I tested for him Amadeus because I had a
00:32:14
baby face and blonde hair yeah you would have been great in that I know Tom Hulse was okay yeah didn't he win the Oscar
00:32:20
did he he was I don't know he was my mom's favorite that's a good movie I saw that again not too long ago which one Amadeus yes that's awesome do you go for
00:32:32
mostly people in the 1700s yes I strictly I feel like you could play anyone in the 1700s that's my bailey way because people in the people in the 1700s
00:32:46
he goes from Big Fat Liar which was just huge for my kids where you're all good the blue the orange guy I mean just gigantic and then he plays John Adams in a mini series at HBO and wins like 20
00:32:58
Awards I don't know how many awards yeah I I don't know I thought was troubling for people that I was the blue guy and
00:33:05
then I was John Adams I don't know it probably was troubling I think it's called range isn't it okay that would be
00:33:10
a nice way John Adams is no one knows he could never play John Adams oh yeah [ __ ] famous there you go what do you say are you playing him well and you go
00:33:22
this is exactly how he was exactly that was a good one because nobody knows what it's like they're having to play
00:33:27
Washington was much more probably I mean the guy was great David Morris was great and Ben Franklin the people that
00:33:33
everybody knows but yeah I didn't have to I didn't have to live I could just make it up I mean nobody really knows
00:33:38
what he nobody knows much about him but tell me how you prep for that or when you got it was like oh I'm playing John Adams was it was it a big get to Tom
00:33:45
Cruise read for it I don't know that would have been amazing you should have read for it you would have been great at something in that both of you would have
00:33:51
been great at something thank you well if you ever dressed anything put us in there I will if I do a 1700s thing I'm
00:33:57
definitely going to happen yes well let me uh let me ask you a question let me ask you a question about technique
00:34:03
because I always feel like comedians are good when they're discovering it if you look at Larry David there's like Larry
00:34:10
Dave is like okay you'll do this and Gary Shanley did that too uh we'll say something like this like that and
00:34:16
there's three cameras and then you just do the take and you kind of know your lines you don't really have lines so it
00:34:22
seems like great actors trained actors can do all the angles repeat everything but do you have a technique for yourself
00:34:29
like I'm gonna save it for the close-up or whatever you do in the the wide shot in the morning you gotta match it all
00:34:34
day I mean I suppose sometimes I do yeah it is hard to do but I mean I guess sometimes I've gotten more into the
00:34:40
sometimes I save the energy if I'm tired or something like that but I don't generally do anything all that different
00:34:46
from thing to thing I mean I don't really do it which may account for sometimes my extra handy acting but it's
00:34:53
like but I don't really think of it that way no I still kind of because I used to act on stage a lot I still sort of think
00:34:58
of it like I'm on stage which is probably not the greatest way to act on film but I sort of do you know I mean it's like if I'm off camera I'm still
00:35:05
doing it I mean I like doing you give it 100 off camera I do I do and I would never do
00:35:12
off-camera if I give it 45 you guys do you guys Garth never hey mcgarth doesn't do
00:35:19
[ __ ] off camera I hope you worked with the guys you don't do off-camera stuff I know I always do off-camera that
00:35:25
seems amazing I've had it where they have either I've had their stand in read yeah I've had it
00:35:31
too I've had it where they they I don't even know if I'm allowed to complain I just know it's it's a little disrespectful but some people whatever's
00:35:37
going on or they're burned out I go I'll give it to them I said you can sometimes I go you can get out of here some of them you don't need much to do your side
00:35:44
you know yeah or whatever the line is just yeah who don't want to look at you when you're off camera some people who kind of prefer not really looking at something they get distracted by
00:35:54
something off camera when they're when I do movies with Daniel Day-Lewis we laugh about this we yeah Danny and I talked
00:36:01
about it too you talked to Danny about that yeah ddl is usually saying stuff like uh
00:36:08
Halford Giamatti just to just he you know what he says to me just say how to say it just tell me how to say it right he just needs a line reading he goes I'm not getting it I can tell from your face
00:36:19
so just tell me one and I'll just say it and we'll get out what am I doing wrong yeah totally totally well I want to ask you Paul because I I think you're a
00:36:25
great actor so now we can dig into that a little bit like I asked Joe Pesci I go Joe Pesci how do you know how do you
00:36:32
know your the scene is great or how do you how do you do it you go and he goes yeah [ __ ] you just lock in you lock
00:36:39
in that's what you do so I wonder because if you're a smart person and you're over redundant thinker about life
00:36:47
and absorbing and sensitive person and then you got to focus into this thing where you're so loose it seems to me
00:36:53
great actors kind of aren't acting when they're in the pocket when they're I suppose so yeah yeah there's a great
00:37:00
take and you realize there was no judgment The Voice wasn't saying yeah yeah you know what I mean but but I
00:37:06
always wonder is that actually the best take sometimes you know I mean sometimes if you think it was or you felt like it
00:37:13
was I wonder if it actually was you know I mean you can't really know in some ways I don't know somebody like him
00:37:18
though I means he ever not been in this I mean has he ever not been in in The Sweet Spot all the time I mean that guy
00:37:25
lives in The Sweet Spot it's like he doesn't you know what I mean it's like and somebody some guys like I don't know
00:37:31
does he need to do a lot of preparation and [ __ ] I mean it's like it's not that he's playing himself it's just that he's
00:37:36
I mean he just it's constantly a guy like that I see like Jeff Goldblum I'm like when did you like when did you flip
00:37:43
the switch and it just turned on Jeff Goldblum and then everything yeah just endlessly flows out and it's endlessly
00:37:49
is that yeah it's endlessly interesting too and it's like you're always in the zone and and it's not like they're
00:37:55
repeating themselves in some way because they're always great they're always you know and then ddl ddl has to prepare for
00:38:02
three years to become somebody completely they kind of lost me when he said uh which I love Daniel Lewis but Sally Field goes he was so into Lincoln he would text me as Lincoln I'm like well I
00:38:14
don't know if that sort of ruins it a little bit it doesn't really yeah that doesn't matter he flip phone he couldn't text
00:38:22
I have I have a bit of a competition I was doing I think he likes like like Brandon would do it too or Nicholas Cage you'll do a a subtle impression so I
00:38:34
think Daniel Day-Lewis was doing a John Houston was was woo he was doing throughout There Will Be Blood right you should win that's not everyone else
00:38:44
should lose I'm John Houston cut Daniel no you're not you're not John I think all right that's a good idea there's something to that I think there
00:38:56
is something to that you find a funny voice yeah I mean a funny voice that's endlessly interesting yeah Nicholas Cage Nicholas Cage I was doing this goofy movie with him and he goes he goes he
00:39:08
was just thought acting shouldn't have to be real it should be surreal if it wants to be he goes I agree with this in
00:39:14
this next take I'm going to come in and I'm going to do Daniel Day Lewis in the name of your father and so he
00:39:20
came in he plopped to his knees and started crying he was doing a scene from a different movie not telling the
00:39:27
director cut brilliant brilliant right yeah brilliant did he really do that oh yeah oh yeah that's amazing what was the movie you did with Nicholas uh it's not as big as right you're moving trapped in
00:39:39
Paradise me uh me love it's yeah there was no script and no real direction we wandered around in the snow for a few months and they put it into plastic anyway I'm much that's always a good choice in
00:39:54
the movie did you I don't know what you're doing well I don't know what you're doing but you guys should stop doing it watch the movie it didn't work
00:40:01
the studio was mad anyway Back To You Paul I think he's a great actor Mickey Rourke by the way oh yeah I think he
00:40:08
worked a great actor do you ever do you ever watch uh body heat uh is he in body heat yeah he comes in I
00:40:15
don't know oh that's right yes yes he's great and body here and he's great as he gets the music on and everything yeah it's great and body heat yeah he's a
00:40:22
great actor he's a great actor that's William Hurt and uh maybe yep that's right William and Ted Danson Ted
00:40:29
Danson's in that movie quite a bit oh yeah and he and he's dancing in the movie yes yeah that's the movie I'll
00:40:35
watch a pretty you know every couple years I haven't seen that a long time I should watch it
00:40:42
[Music] let me ask you a question because you've been in all these movies all these great
00:40:47
actors so when if you've been in a scene with someone and then you just think yourself damn
00:40:53
they're good like really good oh yeah all the time yeah no I I did you do a movie with David uh I I have yet to do that yeah it's gonna be it's gonna knock
00:41:05
my socks off I know it will I'm saving it you're not seeing it here you'll see it okay very good yeah all the time I
00:41:12
mean that happens all the time I did Crow Russell Crowe was like that it's like crazy and he's great he's really
00:41:18
great to work with he's awesome and um yeah he was like that and Helen Mirren I was like how the [ __ ] wow how the [ __ ]
00:41:25
are you doing any of this it's amazing and all kinds of people yeah but Russell Crowe actually was a good one he was
00:41:31
totally like this okay it was amazing it was amazing yeah what about you did man on the moon how was Carrie on that with I love Jim Carrey was he because you know I heard
00:41:44
stories about that movie but was it just was it interesting have you guys ever done anything with somebody who's doing
00:41:50
that sort of like I'm in the character all the time thing uh a little bit I think Sean Penn it was a movie called racing with the moon wanted to be referred to as character yeah yeah right
00:42:04
my part was cut out of the movie but that scene with Sean Penn in a hospital yeah I was I was a crazy man yeah you
00:42:12
were like another you were a lunatic in the hospital yeah but I'll tell you what Richard Benjamin called me at home and
00:42:18
said we love what you did but we have to cut it out it was so sweet to do that so oh that's I worked with him I did a
00:42:23
movie I did a a Disney Family TV movie with that he directed where I played a wacky Civil War ghost it was great it was one of my favorite things I've ever done it was something oh really yeah it
00:42:35
was a long time ago he was great oh yeah Dickie Benjamin is the best I was blown
00:42:40
away to be working with Dickie Benjamin I was like that's really that's amazing wait a minute on the Moon Man on the
00:42:47
Moon oh it was um yeah it was it was it was it was challenging it was uh it was not it was
00:42:53
not easy you know he was great but it was tricky you know because it was sometimes hard to just kind of
00:43:00
fit yourself around what he was doing you know being in the thing all the time and it was it was tricky it was amazing
00:43:06
and and they made a documentary because he filmed all this stuff off camera and it was like what was going on off camera
00:43:12
was I almost was more insane than the actual movie and and I think the idea was to
00:43:18
make some kind of movie out of that which eventually he made this documentary about it but it was like so it's yeah Jim Carrey playing Andy
00:43:24
Kaufman who's playing Tony Clifton Johnny Clifton yeah so it was like so he was home whenever he was Tony Clifton it
00:43:31
was particularly Mayhem off the set because he was just [ __ ] you know he would so you yell cut and he's still in
00:43:37
character and the character of Tony Clifton is loud yeah just just yeah what's your [ __ ]
00:43:46
problem so he was proud yeah yeah brow beating everybody and he was walking around with [ __ ] stinky cheese in his
00:43:52
pockets and he was smearing stinky cheese on people when he'd hug you he'd be like you know give me a hug come here
00:43:58
and give me a hug and he would like you know he's stinking and push back the hardest who said get the [ __ ] off me who
00:44:04
put I don't know that anybody did that was the thing is that it was so such a [ __ ] weird assault that I think
00:44:09
people just you were so kind of stunned during the headlights that you you couldn't really
00:44:14
we're just like okay okay I'll give you a hug nobody really told him to [ __ ] off because it was just sort of you know it
00:44:21
just occupied the whole [ __ ] room whenever he was doing it especially that character and then sometimes he's Andy
00:44:27
Kaufman who people don't know is just sort of quiet more demure right yeah that was a more manageable thing yeah it
00:44:33
was interesting I mean it was it was fun it was challenging you know but it was uh got talked about
00:44:39
yeah for sure it did yeah and sometimes you'd Wonder like guys do that and is it just building a kind of Mystique around
00:44:46
what you're doing is it like does it make it more mysterious and more interesting sometimes if you do that I don't yeah does it feel it works for
00:44:52
them yeah I remember Rob Williams telling me that the real um Andy Kaufman at a given point would
00:45:00
wear his wrestling outfit you could tell he was wearing it underneath his clothes right just just hanging out walking
00:45:06
around just hanging out now yeah I know he was amazing the stuff he did was really amazing brilliant yeah yeah
00:45:13
anti-comedy uh yeah it's worked on a lot of crazy levels yeah and I remember thinking realizing watching so much of that stuff with him and I was like he does the [ __ ] that you do alone in your
00:45:25
room that you would never do in front of anybody else he does that in front of other people you know what I mean like the Mighty the Mighty Mouse thing and
00:45:32
[ __ ] I'm like or just like I'm just gonna read [ __ ] oh yeah Great Gatsby endlessly and it's like the thing you
00:45:38
just aren't gonna do he just would do you know it was like the thing that's gonna not work that's gonna bomb or not
00:45:44
it's the word performance art in a way more than comedy when you're kind of now you know I would say that because you're
00:45:51
not eliciting big laughs all the time you're getting people that are like really love it
00:45:57
really love it and then the people that don't go I'm waiting for the payoff and it's not there sometimes yeah
00:46:03
sorry go ahead no no go ahead no no no just uh to I did a uh a Showtime special I was really bad it was in the early 80s I got a two-minute spot on it it was just a and Andy was on there and I was
00:46:16
outside and I they go so Andy's still on he brought up washer and dryer on the stage and he just did his laundry he did his laundry always I said when do we go
00:46:28
for the good nights he goes he's on the dry cycle he's got seven more minutes I go that's
00:46:34
amazing yeah and nobody really does anything like that anymore I mean the kind of nobody does stuff like that
00:46:39
that's calculated I mean if somebody does something like that it's gonna be more the jokes they're telling are going to
00:46:46
be so awesome yeah off-brand yeah is there's payoffs and there's this now yeah or it's it's a put on but it's not like that wrestling thing where you're waiting yeah
00:46:59
this is not funny yeah I mean it's genuinely not funny it's like and but which is just amazing and you think
00:47:06
there's going to be a big thing at the end where you go oh he did all this because blank and yeah right exactly
00:47:13
nothing I do think he really got off on the theater theatrical idea that he's insulting the audience you know they're in they're in the South they're they're big with the ring and go you guys are a
00:47:26
bunch of hey CD and they go boo they take him so seriously yeah yeah somehow I must have enjoyed that part no definitely there was some kind of really aggressive element to it I guess what's
00:47:36
his name you know uh Borah did that guy yeah he does that kind of thing too Sasha yeah I don't understand I'd say he's probably closer to that yeah you're right yeah you're right because he hits
00:47:48
that down there and he'd fight and he got naked or something yeah yeah I don't like it I I'm not my wheelhouse to to to
00:47:54
come from cruelty too too aggressive to like kind of aggressive well you get these bad positions these Frat Boys in a
00:48:02
camper and you they're drinking and you sort of humiliate them and it affects their life you know stuff like that but
00:48:09
uh I have an offshoot question yes yeah and then we'll talk about sideways as per your day yeah but that's interesting
00:48:17
thing is interesting to me Paul but I want to talk about that too just because I think that's interesting because I don't like it let's talk about it yeah I
00:48:24
also feel like a lot of comics I I don't go see a sorry I do want to I do want to hear what you know we'll go to sideways
00:48:30
but I want to hear this yeah but I I was like I just I also don't love I I I'm not a stand-up guide I've never done it and I never would have the balls to do it and I don't even go see it that
00:48:42
much but I went not too long ago to watch a bunch of people do it and so much of the humor was just self
00:48:48
humiliation it was too much self-family it was all just like I'm disgusting nobody wants to [ __ ] me nobody wants to
00:48:54
and I just kind of actually didn't find it funny after a while a lot of it was just this really kind of like
00:48:59
relentlessly like self whipping kind of humor a lot of it was like that yeah social media begat kind of exposing
00:49:07
everything and then the idea The Comedians up there and like uh you know I was masturbating in front of my cat
00:49:13
today he's got his elbow on the mic stand you know and and self-flagellation and self-criticism and
00:49:20
honesty and I'm so depressed and I have so much anxiety and I can't get laid Yeah yeah which to a certain extent is
00:49:27
fine but then when it's just the whole thing and it was like one person after another like this and I just you know
00:49:32
part of it Paul might be that there is there is sort of wave of that and there's a wave of less targets out there because of cancellation so so they
00:49:43
become the target that's interesting I've even made fun of myself but I always have just a little bit now YouTube feel like the same thing it
00:49:50
doesn't feel the same because it's funny but I don't make it my whole theme of like I'm the biggest [ __ ] loser in the world yeah I have a lot of problems I take a lot of pills like I get I get
00:50:02
kind of what you're saying but I know that targets are going away and people say oh they shouldn't and you can do
00:50:08
whatever you want but you really can't you can do some of it and you if you haven't if you have a bit it has to be
00:50:15
so bulletproof from every angle where you can't get in trouble for it if it's if it's a risky bit if it's race if it's
00:50:22
this if that you better be careful because you're gonna get somebody mad and they if they get mad and they make
00:50:28
us think about it then you're suddenly backpedaling and you're like it's just comedy but that doesn't always get you
00:50:34
out of it yeah my goal maybe would be similar if you wanted to stand up Paul was like and I'll go back to this all
00:50:40
the time because being in the Volkswagen Bug maybe your friends are a little stoned and I'm doing an impression of
00:50:46
the water polo coach and I'm doing it redundantly and exaggerating winding it winding and winding it and they're
00:50:53
helpless so that still is where my yes favorite place to get with an audience is I'm going to do fauci for 10 minutes and I'm gonna go further and further we
00:51:05
gave you the boosters but they didn't walk you know so that the the rhythm of the language the silliness of the exaggeration becomes this this stew of laughter so that's always the goal for
00:51:18
me um so I don't have to worry about cancer culture but I do love it I love something you do which is just the
00:51:24
little the little like one line one gesture impersonation is really funny the sort of flow oh yeah but like
00:51:31
Michael Kane with his with his coloring book or whatever oh my God you know about that well that was just out of
00:51:37
boredom I thought I'll do um micro Impressions like I would do the great Sean Connery I go this is great
00:51:43
late great Sean Connery gets back as asked whether he enjoyed his vacation in Spain right yes foreign
00:52:01
that does it for me that's good for me and then Mike Michael Kane and kindergarten I'd like to eat paste I
00:52:09
don't know why but I don't eat things in a classroom so I don't know what you call it but in the classroom the text is
00:52:16
one thing but then the musicality of The rhythms yeah to to still um to just one
00:52:22
sound it's fun something in your brain in the in the listener's brain that you can't there's some sort of thing that
00:52:29
the fact that you heard that bit anyway let's go sideways is a movie that I visit regularly my wife and I saw it within the last year and we think it's um just a very special movie like uh
00:52:42
like uh your character in that is so I I know it's so re it's heartbreaking and hysterical and your your co-star uh hey Tom church
00:52:56
in Church yeah Hayden Church you guys were so great together this is really funny he's a really funny guy and the
00:53:03
two or no guys like that and I do know a guy like that and you were put in this weird position of being with him and
00:53:09
you're all so depressed and he's living the high life and he's about to be married and he's doing all the [ __ ] you wouldn't do right and right and I love
00:53:16
my Carefree friends that have no worries of or any conscience about anything yeah and it makes me feel like a stiff
00:53:22
because Yeah Yeah you sort of think a little more straight not totally but you go really like you're totally cool with
00:53:29
all this [ __ ] you're doing yes well but that's the thing that I think is kind of interesting about that movie is that in
00:53:34
a way though he's almost more [ __ ] up than the guy I play and in a way he's almost in the darker more [ __ ] up Place sure yeah and then even the guy I'm playing which I always think is interesting in that movie that you
00:53:45
really kind of suddenly see this moment he's brighter about it but he's covering it because it's like so like Hey we're
00:53:51
having a great time why can't you be he's gonna go get married and live in that house with the father who's going to be an [ __ ] yeah and go and just
00:53:58
kind of cut himself up and and like it's kind of depressing and actually my guy in the end he's got possibilities in his
00:54:06
life and stuff so it's interesting he's more real yeah the desperate to have we're gonna have so much fun like for
00:54:12
people I've seen it go see it it's two guys go go to the wine country and one guy is shy and is broken-hearted and his friends trying to get him laid and and yeah your scenes of the woman that you
00:54:24
like are so funny and heartbreaking yeah yeah who was the actor I'm glad you like
00:54:29
it Virginia Madsen yes oh that was such a great pairing she's great man everybody
00:54:35
the script was really great it's one of those gentlemen who did that also did descendants right so this is he did he
00:54:41
did The Descendants he did election he did uh Nebraska About Schmidt he did the Alexander Payne
00:54:48
yeah yeah yeah he's he's brilliant because descendants is another brilliant film that's a great movie I actually
00:54:54
think that's his best movie I really liked it I've seen that at least five times I think George Clooney at the end
00:55:00
saying goodbye is one to his wife is one of the best pieces of acting I've ever seen I agree I think he's really great yeah I did another movie with that guy that comes out in the fall with
00:55:12
Alexander Payne a movie called The holdovers that comes out in the fall yeah and uh what's it what's the it's
00:55:19
about a kid who gets um it's about what's that log line please log line I'm trying to think it's about a kid at a prep school at a boarding school in the
00:55:30
70s yeah and he gets for Christmas vacation he has to he he gets he's the only kid who doesn't have anywhere to go on Christmas vacation he has to stay at the school because his parents neglect
00:55:41
him down there okay and so the only people at the school the woman who runs the cafeteria and the guy the the um
00:55:49
faculty member who's been assigned to look after the kid who's this [ __ ] ass that nobody can stand and that's the
00:55:56
guy how old are you playing as this kid it's about the kid the kid is uh oh I thought you're playing a kid no no no
00:56:03
yeah no no he's playing the old way I'm playing the teacher the history teacher who has to look after the kid and that's
00:56:08
what it's about and it's nice are you passive aggressive toward him or overtly mean or I'm aggressive towards him I'm
00:56:15
aggressive aggressive towards him yeah he's kind of a passive aggressive kid and I'm aggressive aggressive so do you
00:56:20
just go for the comedy or do you think like why is this guy so damaged that he's just gonna beat up yeah I mean it's
00:56:25
like I feel like the comedy's there kind of anyway because this guy's such a [ __ ] up and so bizarre and there's a I have a
00:56:31
weird physical thing that's really bizarre and so it's uh it's yeah I mean I don't I don't think I'm that funny so
00:56:38
it's like I just I just try to just play the thing as it's supposed to be you know it's like that's the only way I
00:56:44
think those well-written things well-directed things they know what they're doing and you I think that's why you make me laugh I mean I don't laugh
00:56:52
at comedies as much because I I know while the rabbit gets out of your hat it's very rare for me to get surprised
00:56:57
but when a dramatic actor I like that term I do like that yeah yeah we see although they're doing that but sometimes the movie will will hit you know like Tropic Thunder and stuff there's one where yeah or the first
00:57:08
hangover like you know there's there's there's a bunch but most of the time I go to dramas and I laugh harder at a
00:57:15
drama how much did grown-ups do do domestic Dana was it under over 200 you know what let's look at a clip what it was was um no what was the foreign bus stop
00:57:30
what'd you do overseas did it we didn't go overseas to do press and uh one city one country
00:57:38
every night yeah you've probably done that junk it yeah it's kind of tough but uh you know in particular countries really take to to the to those movies I don't want to say I'm huge in Bulgaria
00:57:50
but I can't step foot Adam has a big uh that's a huge reach you know he does because of because on Netflix it helps and but you know those I think if they finally went on um from TBS to Netflix
00:58:03
that grown-ups movies but it's just fun I bring those up I don't know why we can talk about Police Academy for but I also
00:58:09
have what about billions has billions made billions that's my question I think it did do well for the for the network I
00:58:15
think is it possible Global syndication it will oh sure people love that all over the world people love that show Paul In fairness I watch billions the first one yesterday right so I'm not
00:58:29
caught up on all 900. yeah that's okay at least I wanted to know what this [ __ ] is all about no offense um so I said everyone knows what the [ __ ] is all about him I know what
00:58:41
I'm saying I hear only good things criticize my Chuck Rhodes no I'm kidding I only hear good things about billions
00:58:47
so I go I haven't seen it I knew melon Ackerman a little bit in the old days so I said sure let me just see this and
00:58:53
very cool very gripping and your wife at the end stepping on you I go oh I'm in on all these different
00:59:00
angles so I really did love it no [ __ ] and uh it was just fun to see and now I feel like I'm missing out
00:59:06
because there's so much catching up there's so much catching up that's why I have a hard time watching anything yeah
00:59:12
even if you missed at the beginning knowing I'm gonna have to knowing I'm gonna have to stick with something makes
00:59:17
it hard for me to even start something if it's new but then having to go back I want I just can't do it I'm like I just
00:59:22
I'm like there's too much somebody was I've never seen a lot of these like I've never seen breaking bad I've never seen
00:59:29
um some of these oh yeah I've never seen The Sopranos I'd love to but I'm like I can't [ __ ] it's just too too much well it's it's a 90 hour movie basically yeah it's so true people are
00:59:43
like you know yesterday I had the day off I did a 14 seasons of uh you know you know the great thing is it's like a big bookstore billions is on the Shelf it's going to be available for human
01:00:08
beings for a long long time hopefully it'll always be there and uh well it's another one I don't want to Fawn but it's another one that your character is so uh I don't know Rich it's a a intense
01:00:22
guy damaged uh yeah he's so human and his relationship Maggie Siff and you have a beautiful yeah she's great plays my wife yeah yeah and it was so weird how close she was to the Damian Lewis
01:00:34
character yeah this character's wife is really in the juice it is really gross it's just you know it's like yeah I'm so thought out because you go to that to that to that
01:00:46
and while you're seeing it play out the big but it gets really like the plots get
01:00:52
really elaborate and it's all like double cross triple cross quadruple cross it just gets really really elaborate so it turns into that kind of
01:00:59
thing yeah I didn't know what that title I just didn't know really exactly what it would be about but the intricacies
01:01:05
just sort of hooked me on stuff that uh I liked so I I sort of got into it it wasn't you know some you watch and people fawn over them and you go it just didn't click with me I have that yeah
01:01:15
but oh yeah I kind of clicked into it I kind of am late but well I the basic thing that they're following is that well you came for money your character and he's a district attorney in the beginning and then it's really examining
01:01:28
is there this other game that billionaires are playing like they I always feel like I have a little bit of
01:01:34
stocks but I know there's other people trading and selling or entities or BlackRock or whatever they're just
01:01:40
playing a different game we know that the AI has been you just follow them you're just like they're like the cat
01:01:45
and mouse game is interesting and kind of who's worse and stuff like that is the billionaire
01:01:51
worse than the politician as the politician worse yeah why do we why do we worship these billionaires when
01:01:56
really Muslim are just [ __ ] and it's like you know and why isn't the politician a better person than she you
01:02:03
know well I'll ask you a question which billionaire and which politician would you like to have lunch
01:02:16
he does ketamine he's so he has rocket ships and he's so I would say to Elon Musk too because of the space stuff and the sort of like the kind of wackiness of that stuff yeah probably politician
01:02:27
that's a really I I don't know that's a tough one it's scary I don't want to know too much I don't know I don't know
01:02:33
I really want to spend it I'll be seriously [Music] well currently Bobby Kennedy Jr I know he's for a lot of people he's kind of
01:02:45
out there but I I find anyone who says and you know my my uncle James okay yeah and my dad I mean Bobby can't so then I just wanted to hear I just wanna and I
01:02:57
also find him just very interesting because he's he he's eccentric I would say I would say I might like to like
01:03:03
overhear a meal he's having I don't know if I want to have a meal with him but I'd be definitely interested in hearing because it's like it gets pretty exactly
01:03:11
it sounds weird yeah he's got to work on that E.T voice I haven't really heard him talk but
01:03:17
everybody says his voice rigidity on his vocal cords is a very very tight voice but you get he's got that thing yeah and it's that but that's
01:03:29
is that like a psychosomatic thing is that like a is that like a psychological Sonia is a real I have a brother who has
01:03:35
it just he has no uh control over his grip in one hand interesting did he over strain it or something and then it happened so like how's that happening I think it's a break starts in the brain
01:03:46
but I'm not sure if it's if it there's a symbiotic effect between uh or some reason you'd be predisposed you know I know a lot about science and medicine so
01:03:57
yeah if you have any questions no I'm going I'm good with Corners okay here we go wait I have a question I know I know we gotta let this guy go I don't ever I don't know
01:04:09
I'm loving Paul can we hang out do you live in New York this is I do live in New York yes I live in Brooklyn yeah New York no but I go there all the time and I know where Times Square is but yeah we
01:04:23
can meet in Times Square then we can meet at the Bennington that's a good idea uh your father I have this question Dana here we go because interestingly enough
01:04:34
when he was I'm not reading this yes I am when when he was commissioner he is the one that
01:04:41
banned Pete Rose right from Betty how interesting that he was there for six months I don't even know if he was there
01:04:47
for that long I mean I think it was really brief wow yeah yeah wow and now these days when gambling is so much a part of it's hard to stop it it's like a damn break I mean it's like now it's
01:04:58
athletes are getting getting caught for gambling but they're sponsored by DraftKings is that true is that I don't
01:05:03
even know is that true now it's like gambling wow they're like partners with NFL and stuff but you're not allowed
01:05:09
crazy so it's getting very much super muddy super crazy I didn't I know Pete Rose is grinding his teeth yeah probably
01:05:16
oh yeah because Pete Rose that whole thing because my my grandma's from Cincinnati so is my mom oh really so
01:05:21
they were in love with him sure well the idea where you would bet on the game and then you would perform in a way to win
01:05:27
money that was the problem right yeah yeah and I mean I guess it goes back to the sort of Scandal the reason
01:05:44
it's Boston Red so white socks the white socks right yeah and it was safe they were paid by Mobsters to throw the game I mean it was like yeah so I guess that's why it's particular was
01:05:56
particularly like the worst thing is any part of you miss Mobsters in a way just something about a mobster hey that there
01:06:03
are mobsters anymore I think they're Mobsters but they're they're well dressed and they're at five stars yeah I
01:06:10
guess so they're all like yeah they're you know I do a little bit I do a little bit I kind of do miss have you played
01:06:16
them officer I'm not really not really no and it's funny because I am Italian-American Oh yeah and when I
01:06:22
first when I first got to New York they would send me out on things just because you know you get you you you get to New
01:06:29
York and you get an agent and they're like you're Italian we'll just send they send you on and this is what you'd be good at yeah so I was constantly getting
01:06:36
sent out for these things where I'd go in the waiting room and it was all these like 300 pound [ __ ] guys
01:06:44
all the guys who were on Sopranos eventually it was all these guys and they're all still sitting around and
01:06:50
they're all just like and I'm like and I I'm like kind of sitting there just like just out of the game drama I'm like yes
01:06:56
I'm from the Yale School of drama and there will lose and I'm like I'm not gonna freaking [ __ ] parts
01:07:03
do they have you go ahead but I but I I wanna and I would go in on things sometimes I remember going in on a thing
01:07:09
and it was for like a cop or something and and the the woman kept saying to me can you make it more Italian can you be
01:07:16
more Italian and I was like I am Italian what and so I would keep doing it and then I realized what she wanted what she
01:07:21
wanted me to be like sure all that kind of stuff and so I did that but I said let me let me hear it give me like a New
01:07:28
York Italian guy like that guy yeah you know you are you want us you're welcome you're one way to walk him for
01:07:34
you Tony kind of [ __ ] all that sort of stuff can you talk like that guy some more because I love that guy let me ask
01:07:40
you a question hey guy hey Rough Boys all those all those kind of guys think this I love that [ __ ] but I'm not gonna
01:07:47
do that I want to go there and play an older I could maybe now play kind of the older guy who's sort of
01:07:53
sitting around playing dominoes you know he's got like the card table on this yeah he's like kind of the Dawn and
01:08:00
retirement kind of guy like maybe I could plate yeah that guy is kind of like my sausage and peppers what's my
01:08:06
sausage it's a little bit of Regis Philbin creeping in there just otherwise my sausage
01:08:11
to God it's the best sausage of pepper ever had Tom broke on it he would have been he would have been one of them as a
01:08:18
kind of here's the Italian if you ever do one again you add the you add the no at the end because I had a friend who go
01:08:23
hey he goes hey this is good pasta no rather than good it's good well I knew a guy I knew a guy who would always say you'd ask him something and you'd say like hey that's a really great car we go
01:08:37
watch this I got that car he'd say watch this before he said anything yeah he would say you would always say watch
01:08:44
this he'd go like you'd say like oh this is this pizza's so good it go watch this this is the best pizza I've ever had
01:08:49
watch this every [ __ ] time when instead it says a guy says or he says he goes he stands here
01:09:14
an Italian movie the other day and it was like a low rent one and I was like I think I'm finally tired of like the
01:09:21
Beaten Down Italian wife and the guy and the wife beater hey Frankie how'd you do
01:09:26
in school I'm like is it the same [ __ ] over and over I'm tired I'm with you I'm kind of tired of it I'm tired of the
01:09:33
kind of like what is shot all the life you want some of this you want somebody dish
01:09:41
hey Paul would you ever like to do uh Prosthetics and an accent I've I've done projects I'd really like I like it I did the plan I did a Planet of the Apes movie where I was almost totally covered
01:09:54
in in Prosthetics and I was in orangutan I didn't want to offend they made you a
01:10:00
[ __ ] orangutan I probably was just pissed off because I wanted to be a gorilla and and I was going to be an
01:10:06
albino gorilla and then they they ditched that idea I was got pink eyes and I was gonna be an albino gorilla and
01:10:13
then they dished that idea because it was too expensive it's a good orang of things
01:10:19
for free at a strip club yeah you were a ringing but you didn't get nominated for
01:10:24
that so I did that and actually in in man on the moon I did tell you Clifton briefly and one part of it but I've done
01:10:30
it in other things too I wore a lot of them in Johnson Gary Oldman in Churchill what about you that would be great but
01:10:36
he was completely almost yeah so John items had Prosthetics on what would it got older as an old age okay it got
01:10:43
older and I think I've done it in other things I can't remember now but I've done it yeah I do like it I really like it I really like doing it hey watch this
01:10:50
he really likes doing it yeah watch this he watches she likes to wear watch this she's got a funny rub it down
01:10:57
watch this you're wearing a yeah he's standing down right yeah I love it I would love to do
01:11:03
something if it'll never happen I don't think yeah I'd love to do Prosthetics and just be invisible and then and then
01:11:09
just get ready for my Oscar just a nose can really make you look different it's crazy yeah just enough Nicole Kidman for uh
01:11:23
Virginia Woolf yeah that's right yeah yeah yeah yeah see how I know movies you didn't think I was amazing you didn't
01:11:29
think I know movies I'm bringing up from the cold [ __ ] dick watch this Virginia wolf watch this the podcast go
01:11:37
you know it was great you know he stands here you know Paul giamatti's dancing Just Dance here he stands for made no
01:11:44
sense what about not for nothing that drives me not for nothing's a good one too that's a good one yeah all right
01:11:51
let's let Paul go he's been being very good to us uh chin wag yes sir it's a new podcast it's been on a couple months hey chin Wick that's a good show no yes
01:12:03
it is it's all about supernatural ghosts I just do this it's so much you have this I think 30 coins coming out on HBO yeah that's on HBO Max and you play a century kooky
01:12:16
billionaire I play a crazy cult leader billionaire so all your cards now have a billionaire you know yes and now you've got Kerry Stoll he's your new kind of billionaire
01:12:28
you know yep so 30 coins on HBO Max he's got the podcast chin wigs when does it's like Thanksgiving or something let me tell you something you got more pots than a [ __ ] awesome country not for
01:12:50
nothing the film is going to show you've got more rolls in a bakery right watch this watch this anyway all right pleasure Paul thanks guys I really
01:13:01
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