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Lake Bell (Always Better Than Lake Titicaca)

March 12, 2026 / 01:09:37

This episode features Lake Bell discussing her career, working with Dana Carvey, and her new show, The Chair Company. Topics include voice acting, directing, and the challenges of show business.

Lake Bell shares her experiences in the entertainment industry, mentioning her roles in films like It's Complicated and Secret Life of Pets. She emphasizes the importance of creating her own projects to maintain control over her career.

The conversation touches on the dynamics of voice acting, with Bell explaining the isolation of recording sessions and the improvisational nature of her work, particularly in projects like Harley Quinn.

Bell also discusses her new show, The Chair Company, highlighting its unique tone and unexpected humor. She describes the creative process and the collaborative environment with Tim Robinson.

Throughout the episode, Bell reflects on the pressures of show business, the importance of adaptability, and the significance of nurturing creativity in her personal and professional life.

TLDR

Lake Bell discusses her career, voice acting, and her new show The Chair Company with Dana Carvey.

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Then there's uh Lake Superior. I always would retort with that when people threw
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me with Titty Kaka or ani tell us a little bit what it was like to work with Dana Carvey. You know, you're being by a
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thorn, you know, and you're like, okay, you know, and you're just like, what?
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>> Okay, I'll I'll I'll add some spice to that. >> Give us a couple different versions of
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that. So, Lake Bell, the lovely and talented Lake Bell, who uh Lake >> starring right now in The Chair Company
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with Tim Robinson, which is just an absurd, >> funny, >> brilliantly offkilter abstract.
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>> Right up my alley. Right up my alley. >> Yeah. And uh yeah, we we talk about her
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name. I mean, it it it is her name. It is kind of the coolest name you could have in show business when it's not made
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up. Lake Bell. You definitely need a hookie name that is a great >> short.
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>> Yeah, just >> four letters. Four letters. There's just something.
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>> It's like a movie jury duty, you know, just get like boom boom and it helps. Uh
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she's also been in It's complicated. She's in so many movies. She's sort of
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woven in where >> you just go, "Oh, right. She was in that one. She was No strings attached.
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There's old movies, new movies, um TV shows >> and a director." Oh, she was in Secret
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Life. >> Secret Life of Pets with Mwah. And uh we talk all about that. >> And she's uh what's interesting about
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her, I think, is um she's got a whole lane of getting hired to do things and
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then she's just producing andor directing things constantly. And that's >> uh by design and very smart. Then you
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can kind show business is less emotionally violent when you're just like doing your own work at the same
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time. Yeah, any anytime it's just waiting for the phone to ring is tough. That's the hardest part about show
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business. Um, anyway, here she is. Uh, lovely person. Lake Bell. >> Bell rang soon.
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>> Is that her? >> I am. Yeah, it's her. >> I don't have any idea what she looks
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like. Is that her? >> Oh my god. >> No one. >> She looks uh like Well, it looks
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gorgeous. >> An AI almost. >> Listen, I do what I can. I I can't
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believe this. I'm just so glad that this is working. >> I I am too. It's amazing.
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>> I know. >> Soon as I heard >> here, let me put this here. >> I feel like there might be a compliment
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coming. So, keep going. >> Oh, >> wait. Is this >> Do I need to have these on?
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>> Yes. Engineer. >> I think so. I know that you hate it. Everyone hates it, but I think it helps.
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doesn't look cute. >> We had this hockey player on and he didn't have him and we and we we
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couldn't talk over him because everything stopped. We have to wait for someone to talk, which you should do.
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>> The hockey player's name was Wayne Gretzky. >> All right. >> You know, I don't want
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>> I didn't even say that. >> I'm not trying to flex. >> I don't want to get
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>> I don't want to flex. I don't want to get handsy. I don't want to have these
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phrases exist. The latest one is slop. I hear it a lot. It's slop. Slop means
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just massive content that is just slop. It's just people love to watch slop.
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>> You know seven is done. Did you know? Did you hear about that? >> Who's done?
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>> 67. >> No. No. You know it's done. Oh, you didn't even Were you not aware of 67?
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>> I was, but I'm glad it's over. >> I heard I heard the two numbers. But
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what was it about again? >> He's heard of the two numbers. I heard the
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>> he's heard of >> when I was No, I remember something like 67 was a code or something. What was it?
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I mean >> like it was like a meme or something and then somebody said it at a at a kind of
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sporting event of some sort because I also asked the question to my children and I have teenytiny children that are
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right in the 67. >> Do they know about it? >> They I hear about it all the damn time.
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It was a hot >> Christmas gift was a t-shirt that said 6. >> Oh, no, no, no.
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>> But apparently the adult >> Thank god it's over. It's over, right?
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>> It's over. >> Okay. Uh I have Oh, I was going to say like because you're also a director. Do
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you feel >> Wait a minute. She's an author. People who don't know Lake Bell because I did
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kind of look you up a little bit. You know, preparation author, writer, director, actor, and voice actor.
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>> Yeah. Uh, am I missing anything? >> I mean, I'm a mother, which is my
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>> Oh, well, like as a director, is it too wide on me? I feel like it's showing too much
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of my whole body. >> I do feel that we're getting a lot of the wires in the backdrop. You could
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punch in. I'd like you over here. >> Yeah, >> I've never seen those in my life. And
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you saw them in one set. Let's come around if we can for a twoot and then just pan.
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>> Yeah, let's just cross cover. Cross >> and um so what what's your happiest
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place in your creative world is when you're writing your book >> start I guess we're doing it
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>> well no we don't we'll start and not start there's it's we don't really know
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what we're doing yet but is that kitchen real or is it like a backdrop >> my I'm in my office and it has a
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kitchenet so there's a >> somebody invested well >> the rich get rich
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>> whoops Can I have a >> never seen anything like this? Who lives there? Bezos.
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>> Okay. Well, listen. >> His muscles live in the other room and he lives in that.
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>> Guys, come on now. I The kitchenette is great for making >> If it has ETT on the end, that means
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it's not >> kitchenet makes me happy. The word makes me happy. If you're checking in kind of
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a B-level motel and there's that kitchenette just seems relaxing. Well, I feel I feel very relaxed and and welcome
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if there's a kitchenet. You're in a guest room has got a kitchenette. You're
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like, I've made it because >> Yeah, >> it really gives you that access point
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to, you know, the world is your oyster. You could make a you could make a tea. You could microwave a piece of toast.
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>> Yes. If I'm on the road, I go for residence in kitchenette. And then you
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don't really leave as much because you go, I can kind of handle [ __ ] >> Yeah. right here
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>> and you don't add advant Have you ever made an omelet in the kitchenette and
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just thought to yourself about the main >> These are viewer questions >> to about the main kitchen as you're
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flipping the omelet you know what >> [ __ ] the main kitchen >> the you know what's fun about that is
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that's where all the like funky mugs go. So, I've got like a very s I love mugs
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and I like a funky mug like you know a don't mess with Texas or like you know
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you go to like I have a a mug a dentist gave me a mug once with like a a big smile with braces on it like what a mug
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you know >> and it's like >> I like a good like you know it's like
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you travel somewhere and you get a mug and I >> Yeah. So all of the good funky mugs live
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in the kitchenette. The main kitchen, she's curated. She's got a real point of
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view. There's a visual, >> right? Is where the funk >> and you also don't want to mess up the
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main kitchen. So it's good to come do some dirty work in here. >> So I just want to make a quick note,
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right? Rap song called Funky Mug. Okay. >> Okay. Go. >> Well, mugs. I have a great old You know
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what my best mug is of all my goofy ones? Larry Sanders. It's all faded. >> I mean,
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>> why we got that? Must have been like a gift bag at the end. I don't know. I
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love it. I love it >> because Mark Marin, he he gives a mug. I'm just saying you guys
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>> Oh, smart. We don't have to give Jack. >> I I was on a show. I don't remember
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getting a mug. >> Oh, they just to special mug. No, no, no. Not a mug. >> You have to You have to You have a bone
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to pick then because those mugs are excellent. I And I I do ceramics. So, like I've got mugs.
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>> I've got mugs. ceramics on top of >> ceramics, too. And you write your
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automotive thing. I can't. Your resume made me tired. What are you doing? >> What were you do you take a nap every
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day? I mean, look, >> I do like actually. >> Oh, listen to this. Like, that's
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>> uh when I was going through your uh extenuous resume, is that a word? And um
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>> it is now >> golden arm. And guess who? Well, we don't name drop on the show. John Ham
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hit me out of the blue and I go, "John, I'm looking at your goddamn name on this
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stupid IMDb and he was so effusively positive about you." >> I am. Yeah, he's he's great. I think
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that is nice. That makes me feel good. I do think >> I'm generally like nice.
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>> Yeah. >> As a person. I mean, would you >> Yeah. I've seen you out and about and you're
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always very friendly and very light >> and I think I like the word agreeable.
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How is this person? They're they're agreeable, you know? They're they're
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easy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I would say that I would I would say >> and she's a laugher, I think, if I
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remember. You like >> Yeah, I can I will give a good laugh. I I feel like that is a a quality that especially
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within comedy, it's nice to have people around who also will give give it give a
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laugh. >> Right. >> Right. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Because if if if you're stiff and
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sometimes you just want to be the funny one, it's always nice when other funny
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people laugh. >> Yeah. Because you know when you're standing in like a a group of comedy
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people and everyone's each other >> and they're being really fun and they've
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got a little they've got a little um a little turned up side grin because they're thinking I'm going to say the
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next funny thing. I'm sharpen what I I'm gonna sharpen tool in my head. Oh, I'm
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listening to what he said. Okay, I'm gonna and everyone's thinking what am I
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gonna say next? you know, and >> it can be kind of like sweaty. I don't
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know. You know, >> I don't like group shows. I I I I do some dates with David. I don't like it's
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19 comics in a green room. What could go wrong? You know, >> it's like a comedy competition and I I
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don't like it. The guy who the >> man or woman on this podcast who laughed
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the hardest is kind of interesting. It was Larry David. >> I think I heard that episode. Yes, I was
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hearing that he was a great laugher and I thought I love Larry even more for that.
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>> I know he's so brilliant and then he sort of like he curled up on a little
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ball and he was redfaced and he fell out of his chair. Very interesting. But uh but our guest today is Lake B Lake Bell
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Lake. >> Has any ever met another lake person first name? >> Yeah. So it's interesting because when I
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was come when I was growing up it was so bizarre. I mean, people were like the amount
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>> they can't get their head around it. >> They could not they were like this is
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not okay with me. >> Whoa. >> What? You know, and I had a story I would tell people that my you know, my
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parents were hippies and I was on a lake and they thought, "Oh, let's do it."
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>> And that was not at all the truth. I'm from Manhattan. And my dad's like a Jew
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who belt the fish and my mom was like, you know, a kind of read war in peace while working at Sabes and was a model.
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You know, >> the bees. >> Yeah. >> Lake is a cool one, but you have cool
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names for your kids. >> Well, it's like a movie star name. And you know, I mean, it's it's very
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memorable. It's really tight. And the word the big L and the big B. >> It's just it has a lot going on.
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>> Four letters, four letters. >> Yeah. four letters, four letters, two
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nouns. And and then I think I saw it on a lot of like um signage when I was a kid. I always wanted to be an actor, but
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I was like, "Oh, it's already up there." So [ __ ] we're halfway there.
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>> It works. It works up there in the big time. >> Yeah. Lake Titty Kaka Lake, you know,
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that was >> Now we're talking Lake Balls of Plenty. Remember that one in Winnipeg?
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>> Oh god. Really? I don't >> Winnipeg. I just went off Titty Kaka.
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You're right. >> Yeah. Yeah. Tittaka. And um then there's uh Lake Superior. I always would retort
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with that when people threw me with titty kaka or an area. >> You know, the admin Fitzgerald took
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place on a lake, I think. >> Yeah. I mean, listen, lakes are of great import. They're much more robust than a
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pond. >> No one's named Puddle, is it? >> And they're rare in the western US
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>> as a >> You were called Puddle. >> Yeah. My stepfather used to call me
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Puddle because he's like, "One day maybe it'll grow into a lake."
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>> Oh, that's cute. >> That's cute. You know, David, um, you know, sometimes
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you want a little pickme up, right? Oh, yeah. Especially, right? >> But you also want something that
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actually tastes good. Do you know where I'm going? >> Yeah. >> Comment.
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>> You're going to talk about the new Fruity Rainbow Shop. >> That's exactly where I was going.
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>> That's right. >> Fruity Rainbow. What a great name and a great taste. It's a great name. Great
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taste. >> That was your nickname in high school. >> Yeah, that that's why I was captain of
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the football team. These things are straight up fruity candy vibes. They are bright, bold, and honestly kind of
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nostalgic, you know, but with a tasty caffeine kick that gets you moving. >> Oh, yeah, it does. Caffeine got a
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>> Mhm. which is kind of wild when you think about it, but the fruity rainbow
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>> I love that. >> It's all packed into that classic tiny 2 oz bottle.
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>> Mhm. >> Big seasonal flavor. Uh super portable, easy to throw in your bag, car, sock,
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gym pocket, whatever. >> No giant cans, no sugar overload. It's zero sugar.
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>> Zero. >> It's a treat that's totally sweet tooth approved.
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>> You get the fun. You don't get the crash. If you're like me and love the
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idea of your caffeine tasting as good as it works, yeah, >> this is your sign.
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online at 5hour energy.com or Amazon. >> Should we talk about Secret Life of Pets
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and what happened? >> I mean, >> for a second, we just we worked on something together.
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>> Yes, it was f I mean, >> were you together? >> No, we never recorded together. This
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really blows it for people. I think people want to know that all the minions are friends and I think they want to
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know that all the people hang out because I did some and we did them in different days and I was like, "Oh, no.
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I kind of wanted to be together." >> Yeah. There's no there's no it's it's a
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lonely job in a way, but then you get thrown together in promotion. So you're
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recording these >> huge like either TV TV shows or or movies where they're these animate like
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larger than life characters and oh my god the the rapport must have been terrific ask you on the junket they say
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you know do was it so fun working together >> you guys have a blast the chemistry
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>> that's a perfect junket voice what you just did >> tell us a little bit what it was like to
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work with Dana Carvey >> yeah Dana must be non-stop laughing like well his booth was two doors down and
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four months after my >> I don't know. >> I know. One time on on Hotel
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Transennsylvania, we did it. Oh, a couple people remember. I heard some applause.
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>> Um but we we did it all in the same room. And >> no, you didn't.
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>> They quickly found out it was a horrible idea. We were doing like scenes and
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we're all talking. It was Kevin James and Adam. We're like blah blah blah
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blah. And we're just going through like scene after scene and then we go we'll
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do some pickups and we did everything again by ourselves. >> Well, by the way, then it goes back to
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the like green room. A bunch of comedians in a green room. You don't you wouldn't want to record an an animated,
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you know, show that way because everyone's sitting there going, we're so
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>> Did you understand, David? Because when I was in the two, I wasn't quite sure
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what my character was doing. Yeah, I didn't connect it to any I would I didn't even understand. I just knew that
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was the line and they directed me, but I you get kind of lost like what >> you just came out of a cave and you're
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all wet. >> Yeah, >> that's what that's what it's like. And
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then when we did that one uh Emperor's New Groove, it it went three years I did
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it. And so at the end I'm like I don't even know what's going. They go you can
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ad liib. I go I don't know what the scene is. I don't >> You're like you're falling down yell
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scream. I like when they go right before you leave, let's get some ooze and o's.
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>> That's the best. >> Someone stepped on your tail. >> The industry term is You ready? You
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remember they're like, "Let's get some efforts." >> Oh, efforts. When you're falling down a
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hole, >> this is just for people. I I've probably been spoke about before, but it's an
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interesting thing about doing voiceover work. You're behind a glass. You're in a
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booth. You're seeing like 10 people in front of you and they're straightfaced
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and very serious and you go all out with your take and there's a delay. So you're still
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looking at an oil painting and then they then you see them like they're laughing
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on Zoom from France. >> Just you can't hear them. >> They go silent laughing and and thumbs
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up >> and you like that one. They go one more and you go >> Yeah. It's so awkward.
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>> I mean, I do I do uh Poison Ivy on Harley Quinn for DC. It's like a
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>> That's right. >> Yeah. And they That is all kind of improvis. Oh, look at him. He read um
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the res. Oh, notes. Um >> Oh, yeah. We got >> if necessary. I didn't think we'd need
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him much with you and it's working out beautifully. So tell me about you're
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that character on heart of >> Well, I just was going to say like in there they really like the
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improvisational >> vibes. >> Oh, okay. >> And of course you're alone. So you're
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>> sometimes I have the director read with me just so that I can I don't know. You
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know, it's like you don't know how to improvise with nothing even though I've
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gotten really good at it where you just are like I don't know. Can you give me
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an idea of where we are? And they're like, "Okay, so you're in Gotham and
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it's kind of like >> funny." >> Kind of like a brothel, but like they're
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all made of plants and like you're being [ __ ] by a thorn, you know, and you're
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like, "Okay." You know, and you're just like, "What? Okay, I'll I'll I'll add
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some spice to that." >> Give us a couple different versions of that. >> Yeah, that's great.
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>> It's fun. >> Look at your sleeves, though. What's going on?
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>> Yeah. So, we've got >> that's a bit of a >> like don't worry about it.
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>> It's like >> Plymouth Rock. I mean, sort of a >> It's called fashion and I'm not
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>> It's kind of a pilgrim village that's trying to make friends with Native
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American look. >> I don't know. It works. >> Finesse. >> What color is it if you had to guess?
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>> What color? >> Yeah, >> I think it's dark green. >> It's actually dark. It's navy with
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black, which is my favorite combo. >> God, more proof I'm color blind.
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Everyone navy with black is your favorite color. >> Yeah, I love the tension.
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>> Don't hate my jean jacket. >> I I like what you got going on here. I
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love >> It's hard doing this, right? We're all looking at ourselves. We're looking at
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ourselves. >> I don't like it. I'm gonna just How do I go off my >> It's impo possible not to
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>> on Zoom I know how to just go and then I get rid of my face and then the problem
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is we're all actors. We're all looking at oursel like what do I look at my
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face? Do I >> I'm only looking at me the whole time. >> I know. I see you. I see you looking at
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you. >> I don't even know like on Spade has never looked at me or you. I don't even
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know what Dana looks like in real life. >> He's not sure who our guest is today.
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>> You've got a hair light. You've got a backlight. That's >> This is a new thing like that you should
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incorporate into your movies you direct because >> Okay. >> This was a happy accident. I like it. It
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was a light behind me because it was so black behind me and then it kind of >> glows up the hair. So I said, "Hey,
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>> they do that a lot with the ladies. They do Yeah. Hair light they call it.
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>> So that you do that. So it's just like a little crest of like >> It's not bad.
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>> Yeah, it's pretty. It's It's quite elegant. >> Is mine poured on a little hard back
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there? But I don't know. Maybe it could go down. >> It's a It's a It's a It's a little
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celestial. It's a little uh angelic, but I I like it. It feels like they could
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kind of fly away. I mean, there's a sense that >> they're Yeah, some of these these are
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>> very French. I think it's very French. >> It's a one-way street. Once they jump
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out, they're not coming back. >> Yeah. Can you go >> I've got a bit of a mully going on?
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>> Do you like Do you have a team? If you go to an award show or something, do you
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have a team? >> Talk about it. >> Oh, >> you have a good team.
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>> Oh, honeys. Girls, girls. I >> Oh, please. >> Girls, you have no idea what kind of
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team I have. Um, one of the greatest teams. Um, no, I do. >> That's good hair though. You have to
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>> I did I did my hair today. I'll be honest for you. For you, gentlemen.
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>> It's great. >> Thank you. Um, but no, I do. I do a team. But I have to be honest with you.
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Going to when someone goes, "Hey, can do like for instance, Golden Globes are
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coming up and >> Yeah. >> Oh, you know, are you gonna go to the thing on Friday or whatever?" you know,
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and I the amount of of just pomp and circumstance that I need to go go through just to get to the
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freaking party. >> I'm like, I don't even know if I can afford to go to that party cuz hair and
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makeup, styling, >> car, you know, cuz can't just you gentlemen can throw on a key.
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>> Sometimes you're like, who do I bring? Is it all by myself? >> I go alone a lot. I actually go alone. I
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kind of been enjoying rolling up >> because you run around so much. Usually
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just go to someone for bass. You're like both talking to people. You come back,
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say hi. Hey, what's going on? Blah blah. Then you go because you both know different people. Yeah. But if you
00:22:42
don't, it feels weird sometimes to be constantly in motion. >> Yeah. >> Hey. Hey. Hey, Lake Bill. Nice to see
00:22:50
you. What's up? You have 10 seconds to make a connection. >> Hey, Lake Bill. How you doing, man?
00:22:56
>> Everyone calls her Lake Bell. Hey. Hey. Hey. It's M. Bell. How are you?
00:23:01
>> I have three seconds. What's up? Let's have a profound moment. >> I mean, I've seen, you know, I recently
00:23:07
went to a thing at like the Chateau or something and I saw a fellow person who was going through an an I have an early
00:23:13
problem. So, I get places a way too early. >> Good. >> And like I was early for this podcast
00:23:19
and >> Yeah. And I have um an exboyfriend who actually told me that, you know, um who
00:23:27
was like, "You're too hot to to show up this early. Like, you have to be very
00:23:31
late. You have to like get it's not okay." And I thought that was very sweet. But um
00:23:36
>> that is true. But I do like people that just get things going because it's so
00:23:40
hard to be cool and wait. It's so hard. >> I don't guys I'm just It's like I I
00:23:46
don't know what it is. I don't know if it's like cuz I don't have ADHD cuz my
00:23:50
daughter does and my son does, but I just can't. I get there way too early because I'm nervous I'm going to be
00:23:55
late. So, it's probably peopleleasy, I guess. I don't know. >> Um, it could be tactical. Like, I like
00:24:00
to get there early >> so that I can leave early and go, "Hey, I was You know what?
00:24:07
>> Yes. >> Well, you can kind of see people come in and it's not as overwhelming as walking
00:24:11
to a packed >> [ __ ] place. sits bumper to bumper and you're like, I can't even get to the
00:24:16
point where I can't get. >> But I will say I like this this Golden Globes thing because first of all, if
00:24:22
you go to a party for let's say it's the Golden Globes. Now, >> a party is almost as bad as an effort as
00:24:29
a look for going to the Golden Globes. It's pretty much around the same budget,
00:24:34
around the same everything. Now, if you go to a party, you have to think, am I going to go to a party Friday, a party
00:24:39
Saturday, and Sunday after the show? >> So, three looks for if for a female,
00:24:46
right? >> Whoa. >> Do you do your hair three times? >> Yes. >> Is there anything you save on the
00:24:53
>> There's no saving. Okay. The only thing I would say is that I style myself right
00:24:57
now. So, that has been kind of because it's like an art form, right? Like, yeah,
00:25:03
>> I like I'm a visual person. I enjoy this [ __ ] So, like, I'll give it a go.
00:25:08
>> And so, I buy the only >> the only the only thing I I splurge on is like I you know, I get [ __ ] that's um
00:25:17
secondhand. So, I like buying consignment. >> Oh, cool. Yeah. >> And vintage. I just It's like fun. It's
00:25:24
like finding Yeah. in a you know it's like I watch those guys with the metal
00:25:28
detectors who like look in dirt and find things like I I can watch this >> find your dress.
00:25:33
>> Yeah. So that's similar. It's scratching a similar >> inside baseball but I've not been I
00:25:40
don't go to a lot of war shows but the last time I was at the Oscars Whoops. Um
00:25:46
you walk out in the red carpet just for people listening and then you stand there and then there's a wall of people
00:25:52
screaming. I mean, they're waiting for Timothy Shalame or, you know, Jodie Foster or something and there's this
00:25:58
wall of people screaming at you. Do you pivot and kind of smile and they're going like like screaming like just a
00:26:06
hoorde >> and you pivot? Do you have a face that you put on? Can we see it?
00:26:11
>> I do. I do this. >> Okay, good. Okay, here it is. >> Off. Earphones off.
00:26:15
>> Lake Bell. Here, here. Here. >> I like this pleated pants outfit. Oh,
00:26:21
>> here. Over here. Over here. >> This part. You're not supposed to see
00:26:24
this part. >> Are those purple? I'm not even going to guess. >> No. No. The They're They're another
00:26:28
shade of of blue. >> You know what's cool about you is that you don't you don't you you don't you're
00:26:35
not sweaty. You don't seem to try. You don't seem to care about being a star.
00:26:39
>> I mean, you you're one of those celebrities that just sort of there's a
00:26:43
coolness factor to that. You're not needy, are you? I mean, >> I'm not thirsty.
00:26:47
>> I just want to make I think I'm like a working actor. Like I feel it like you
00:26:52
know what I mean? Like I don't I go on the subway like I go to the grocery store. So I don't feel
00:26:55
>> that's what how how I see you and also you ride and direct and do all the other
00:26:58
things but a lot of people live or die by this how their heat as a celebrity. It's like a really huge deal. You don't
00:27:06
seem to >> doesn't bother you. >> It doesn't. And also I have two little
00:27:11
kids right? So >> yeah, >> a mom and I to boot I have kids that have had
00:27:19
>> some heavy [ __ ] happen. >> We we know about your book and I thought
00:27:23
it was I read some of the the quotes and they they teared me up. I mean it's like
00:27:28
the way you couched seizures was so beautiful. I mean you're a great writer.
00:27:35
>> Thank you. I I think that the context of that has always, >> you know,
00:27:41
>> yeah, >> I've had kids now for 10 years, so it's like all of it, even when I'm directing
00:27:45
and they're like, "We lost a location. Oh my god, we're freaking out. You know,
00:27:50
it's going to, you know, everyone's the actor is going to be so upset. We can't
00:27:56
Oh my god, I don't know what to say." And I'm just like, >> "This is a cool job.
00:28:02
Like I've seen I've held my my ch both of my children in different states of
00:28:08
>> are they dying or not, you know? >> And so I think contextually I'm like
00:28:13
we're going to find another location. >> Yeah, we're going to be fine.
00:28:16
>> It's a movie. You know, >> it does put it in perspective when you
00:28:20
go there are a lot worse problems right now. I wish everyone wouldn't freak out
00:28:23
so hard because we're wasting freak out. >> Also, for all the time that we just
00:28:27
freaked out about that, we could have been like, you know, like let's see what's across the street. Let's see. Can
00:28:32
we talk to Let's talk. >> And it's funny. They always figure it out.
00:28:35
>> They all You always figure it out. So I'm like, >> you see the movie, you don't see a
00:28:38
[ __ ] blip. >> No. And frankly, just if we're talking inside baseball about directing for a
00:28:44
second, it's like often times there are moments where, okay, you did lose that
00:28:48
location and then >> whatever for or like we have to reshoot this scene because of blah blah blah,
00:28:54
and you're going, "Oh my god, I I can't think of a worse piece of information
00:28:58
for my editor right now." But whatever it is, it always ends up kind of exactly
00:29:02
as it should be. It's it's always great, you know, especially when you have to
00:29:06
revisit something >> or you get a new location and then >> you just make it work and then no one's
00:29:12
the wiser that sees the movie and they go, I don't really care about that stuff. Is is the movie working?
00:29:17
>> But also in life, like now with parenting and [ __ ] like that, you're
00:29:20
just like, well, you know, a lot of the times we come up against moments where it's not as you planned. it's not how
00:29:29
you thought it was going to be. This person kind of did this and you you thought they were going to do that. All
00:29:33
of those expectations >> are what get in the way of it. If you could just kind of
00:29:38
>> sort of >> adapt and adjust. I mean, that's the that's what I'm always trying to, you
00:29:43
know, sort of teach to my children too. The adapt is such a >> roll with stuff. Okay, now we'll deal
00:29:49
with this and then this and really think of life as a kind of a series of problems in a sense. You know,
00:29:55
>> it's hard to watch kids get so much anxiety also because you go, "God, this
00:29:59
is the your worst thing and it's really nothing in the big picture." But to this
00:30:03
point in your life, like high school especially, is very hard. >> Yes. >> And you go, "Fuck, I wish I could talk
00:30:07
you down and just to say >> you won't really remember almost any of this problems. Young
00:30:14
people are nostalgic for the analog world. I I hear this a lot." And they'll
00:30:19
watch Grey's Anatomy like crazy because they don't have iPhones. They don't have
00:30:24
Instagram. They don't have So, the toxicity of that and now you raising your young people through this is a
00:30:30
whole other set of challenges. >> I have a It's funny. I went and got um
00:30:34
just talking about nostalgia. So, I don't know if you guys go to Vidiots, which is a really cool art house theater
00:30:39
in Los Angeles >> and um also a nonprofit that does >> um that kind of preserves DVDs and VHS
00:30:48
tapes. Mhm. >> Um, I go and take my kids to go rent DVDs and >> Oh, cool.
00:30:56
>> of I then bought myself, you know, for the house a little combo, a TV and DVD.
00:31:03
>> DVD player. Oh, wow. Okay. >> Right. You plug it right in. You see
00:31:06
this is the device it's on. It goes right. >> I thought those are already gone. It's
00:31:10
crazy. >> Yeah. And the idea of not scrolling. What are we going to watch? I don't
00:31:15
know. I've already seen that. >> Like this is it. This is what we're
00:31:18
watching. >> We just rented it. We're putting it in. And then >> choice
00:31:22
>> called Deborah. Um, and so I'm like, you have to be very delicate with Deborah.
00:31:27
>> And so you press the button on. You wait. >> Okay. Now wait. Now press eject and
00:31:35
wait. You know, >> there's a lot of waiting. Put it in. >> Press it. You know, it's like everything
00:31:42
is so consist. >> Don't push it. It kind of pulls it from your hand. And if you go really lightly,
00:31:47
it kind of sucks it in. >> I think it's >> it's great. We at one point only had a
00:31:51
Blu-ray player when we moved up to this house and uh and we just quickly bought 10 Blu-rays and so I guess we're going
00:31:58
to watch The Godfather and and then you're you're committed to the movie and
00:32:02
it really is when you're on live streaming and watching all these shows, you're like,
00:32:06
>> I don't know. You feeling this? Okay. And then boom, you're gone.
00:32:10
>> You're out. Yeah. It's What is that? It is actually feeding our short attention
00:32:15
span and it's just like >> yes >> I feel like it's like it's it's actually
00:32:20
flexing and and it's flexing a muscle that we shouldn't >> which is to just bail you know. Yeah.
00:32:28
Talk about adaptation and being adaptive. It's like >> let's talk about the chair company. A
00:32:32
perfect uh >> introduction to that which my wife and I watched the first two episodes last
00:32:39
night. >> Oh, you did? She and she did not have to watch the second episode unless she
00:32:44
wanted to. >> And so we both fell in love with it. It's so the reason we loved it and it
00:32:50
didn't make us wander is because it it's full of so many surprises. It's Tim
00:32:54
Robinson in full quirk >> and you and others and so it keeps going places you don't expect.
00:33:01
>> So I think it's great and it's been picked up for season two I heard.
00:33:05
>> So you're in a hit. Um, I will say that, um, I'm not really in the first
00:33:12
episodes. I'm kind of like, you know, it all unfurs. So, >> that's what I shut up, Barb.
00:33:19
>> Exactly. >> Yeah. He yells up the stairs like, "Oh my god." Yeah.
00:33:23
>> Shut up, Barb. You know, >> he's so bananas. Everyone acts like it's
00:33:27
normal. Okay, cool. >> Yeah. That's the thing is I think being a straight man, you know, straight woman
00:33:34
to his really just chaotic, wonderful, misanthropic, koginly tornado of a character.
00:33:43
>> So stressed at all. >> So stressed and like shooting with him. He's not like
00:33:49
that at all. I don't know if you know him personally. >> I don't know him at all.
00:33:53
>> Assume he's I assume he's not. >> No, but you never know. He was on SNL
00:33:58
for a while and wrote >> it's funny classically did not use him right or something because look at all
00:34:03
the [ __ ] he's done. It's so >> but the people's reaction to his
00:34:07
character and you being one of them is you know the laugh is often on someone processing madness that we don't get a
00:34:13
chance to as just viewers from home you know like so you've you know I can see
00:34:17
how it's I don't know where it's going but you know I'm going to
00:34:21
>> I'm so excited you know for you to to unfurl the other ones that the fact that
00:34:28
you're on number two. Have you seen any of >> I finished number two. >> You finished number two. Okay. It gets
00:34:34
it's goes not where you think ever. And I think what I love about the show and
00:34:39
being a part of it is that it is unique in its tone. >> Yes. And it surprises you. There's a
00:34:44
piece in there which doesn't give away the plot or anything where he's driving
00:34:48
with somebody and he does a satire basically about live streaming or just non-performative
00:34:57
people who make millions of dollars or something. It's sort of X-rated rapping,
00:35:01
but it wasn't rapping. and they're just talking. You know the moment I'm talking
00:35:04
about like that was really surprising. It was just a great moment to put that in there and it was just really laugh
00:35:11
out loud funny >> the way the guy >> Yeah. It's also like the the the camera
00:35:17
work is so excellent. Um Ashley >> um the DP like has such a well also I give credit to Andy D. young as well,
00:35:25
just the director who did Friendship. Um, if people have seen that um >> and it has such a um sometimes almost
00:35:34
like Lynchian like you'll see it's like it gets >> David Lynch is brought up Mohalland
00:35:39
Drive for some of the Reddit people talking about it. >> Yeah. Quirky quirky.
00:35:43
>> Yeah. And when you I don't know if it's up for best comedy, but when you see a
00:35:46
comedy that you actually laugh at, which is honestly rare. >> Yeah. Well, we're all snobs, but when
00:35:53
you laugh because it's not predictable and you're and there's something out of
00:35:57
the blue, you throw away lines right and left where you're like, >> "Oh my god,
00:36:01
>> these kids were getting drunk with their teacher at the and you're like, what
00:36:04
their teacher?" Like they just throw away stuff that's just so weird and and
00:36:07
no one mentions it. You go, >> right? And it's tiny little throwaways that you're like on my birthday, you
00:36:14
know, like like that was a per that's a perfect example of like >> what makes there's no reason what a
00:36:22
random laugh and then everyone just keeps going and you go >> because I I've worked with um uh HBO
00:36:29
before and I've obviously done a ton of comedies and that usually I feel like
00:36:32
the the the flavor and the general kind of movement of the >> uh music is like clean, keep it clean
00:36:44
and then bring it on back and then oh you flood that line go again you know it's like faster you know cleaner
00:36:50
tighter >> and with this >> I really felt like I was in a different sheet of music like I I I I was not
00:37:01
Yeah, it was a different it was like jazz riffing because there were moments where you know he might flub and I was
00:37:09
like, "Oh, I see they they're gonna use that take." >> Yeah, they'll keep it because it's real.
00:37:14
>> Yeah. Because it felt And so the kind of awkward the tension of that >> and long pauses and weird things where
00:37:22
normally they go, "Can you just tighten that up? We'll just got to keep it
00:37:24
moving." And you're like, "No, >> looks like that. It's just
00:37:29
>> you could strangle that comedy in a second with a different director. You
00:37:33
completely beat the [ __ ] out of it." And so I I'm I'm envious because I I don't
00:37:38
think I've ever been in that situation, but I know what you mean. And I think
00:37:41
that the the genius of Marlon Brando, what a weird reference, is he tried he tried to get it ad hoc. He tried
00:37:48
discover in the moment. He didn't want to be locked in. He wanted to he'd have
00:37:52
it on a orange or he peel it and get his line, whatever to deconstruct the idea of it. And then obviously when you're
00:37:58
doing takes and you're discovering it real time like you like are going >> this is real for me right now. This is
00:38:05
not like I rehearsed it. >> It does pop and I can feel that. That's what I'm feeling when I'm watching the
00:38:11
show I guess. >> Yeah. We don't rehearse at all. So only if there was a stunt or something you
00:38:15
know with but but even I mean we'll rehearse the stunt but we'll never rehearse the lines like before you know
00:38:22
>> Clint Eastwood >> or Woody Allen really you know. >> Yeah. You just you'll be in the moment
00:38:26
and you'll say it for the first time then and >> and it makes people good because even on
00:38:31
those Clint Eastwood movies they say when I come to the set you know I've had
00:38:34
guys that do 15 20 takes so you're basically almost carrying your many sides to the real shooting going well I
00:38:41
know we're not using the first eight >> I know >> and which is such a bummer because in
00:38:44
comedy you're like sometimes things just happen and now I've got to recreate them
00:38:48
because of continuity and I'm like >> if you can just get rehearsal even it's
00:38:52
half the time it's the funniest cuz that's the first time it's real back and
00:38:55
forth. >> Yeah. >> Shoot the rehearsal. I was in a movie once. Yeah. Always shoot the rehearsal,
00:39:00
right? So, >> don't even tell them. It's just on >> for you as a director and then you're
00:39:04
seeing this style or maybe you've seen it before. Does it influence you? Do you
00:39:09
try to emulate it or do you do it yourself? Anyway, >> I'm really interested. I mean, I learned
00:39:12
how to direct by being in the [ __ ] trenches of a >> trillion different sets and
00:39:19
>> yeah, >> how people are are operating, but not just within, you know, the within the
00:39:26
director's brain, but, you know, how they're relating to the rest of the
00:39:28
departments, you know, and how actors are feeling, you know, with different things. Oh, that performance I like I
00:39:34
can tell the way that act the way that director just spoke to this actor really got that great performance or actually
00:39:41
botched it like >> Yeah. >> And so we and also obviously as as actors we're kind of like I know what I
00:39:47
like and what I don't like, you know. >> Um >> well if you're tuning into that which is
00:39:52
different because most people are just worried about their lines and the actors are just doing it. If you're adding, I'm
00:39:58
tuning into the director, not only talking to me, but how he's dealing with the DP, how he's dealing with the other
00:40:03
departments, that's when you start to learn about directing because >> all that stuff is like you're on
00:40:07
blinders if you're an actor. And then you go, wait, what do you even do back
00:40:10
here? And there's so much so many things happen. Someone comes up with two pieces
00:40:14
of carpet, this one or this one, he's like that one. You're like, okay. And
00:40:16
you go, oh, this is for a scene in three weeks they're working on. And >> there's story boards. There's so many
00:40:22
things to go over. >> Yeah. >> A lot of work. I think that also, you
00:40:26
know, if you have access at all, um, for instance, when they say, "Okay, you can
00:40:29
go to your trailer and we'll call you when you're ready." You know, it's like
00:40:32
you have the access to be like, "Oh, I'll um go ahead and just get a chair
00:40:35
and I'll sit here and just get a tea and watch." >> I want to watch them flip it over to the
00:40:39
other side and see how they do it, how fast they do it, who does what. >> It is quite a rush though, right? Like
00:40:45
when you have an idea about a scene and then you get the first rough cut of it or I felt good but you don't know and
00:40:51
you go, "Fuck, it's working." And This is great. You're bringing people into
00:40:56
the edit bay. What do you think? They're laughing or saying this is great. And so
00:41:00
that's the rush of the [ __ ] the hard work of director. So hard. But you work
00:41:06
for that. That's the moment, right? >> Well, yeah. It's been interesting like
00:41:09
having the kids on sets and stuff where they're looking at it and they're going,
00:41:12
"Oh my god." You know, I have to explain this is a scene that will be probably
00:41:18
five seconds. Mhm. >> All of these hundreds of people are here. >> We're all work. There's all of this
00:41:26
work. All these trucks for these five, >> you know, >> right? >> That's the funny thing about you got an
00:41:32
eighth of a page one day when you go in, you go, it's still the same hair and
00:41:35
makeup. It's still the same everything. >> Everyone's coming to work.
00:41:39
>> Everyone's coming. >> It's just to get a look, a reaction
00:41:41
shot. An eighth of a page can also be like, you know, you know, she comes in, she takes her, you know, she she she
00:41:50
take she makes a tea, she sits down and she calls her mother. Okay, fine. You know, and there's like three lines or
00:41:56
something like that and you're like, "Okay, I'm going to be in and out for
00:41:58
this one." But, you know, it's not true. >> Hilariously true. Even I I remember
00:42:02
those superhero movies, they said, "We do about a fourth of a page a day."
00:42:06
They're like the line is like, "The Batmobile tears through Gotham." and
00:42:09
you're like, "Well, that's going to take a while. >> That's a week. That's a week."
00:42:13
>> Yeah. They go the whole city. >> Yeah. So, that's why little things like
00:42:17
that. You're right. There's some where they'll go in a twoot and you're out of
00:42:21
there and you don't even notice it. You're like, "Oh my god, we're just
00:42:23
going to stay on a two shot." That's great. And then some you're like, I had
00:42:27
no idea this would take four hours. >> I know. I know. And I try to I mean, I
00:42:31
get people out. I move really quickly because I do think that in general I do favor uh people, you know, two shots and
00:42:40
shots and things like that and like playing it in the wide and you know, >> get two cameras running and see what
00:42:45
>> movie masters. Yeah, >> they work. I mean, it's cool because it
00:42:50
makes you pay attention if you're the audience. You're like, >> "Oh, yeah." And the actors love it. The
00:42:53
actors love it. We love it when we can come in and just be with each other and exist in the space. Oh, it's I if you
00:43:00
ever have need someone in a movie that I could do anybody. I'll do a Italian
00:43:05
waiter or something. But uh that you know when you watch old timey films there's a lot of moving masters. There's
00:43:11
a lot of two shots moving in and out. Of course Woody Allen really adapted that.
00:43:15
But old timey films to edit was like >> spooling 100,000 feet of footage to do
00:43:21
one little edit. So they really made sure that now it's in the the last 20 years.
00:43:27
I know. You know, >> I do like cross coverage for comedians, though. Like, we love that. We like to
00:43:31
be able to play and >> if there's a happy accident that happens and someone says something [ __ ]
00:43:37
hilarious, we got it. And we have a response to it, you know? It's like >> a real reaction. Yeah.
00:43:43
>> Yeah. Yeah, >> I had someone do uh on a movie kind of sabotage because I did my side and then
00:43:51
when they did their side they changed their lines and did all these things in ad lib and I was like oh so I have no
00:43:56
reaction any of this. That's like a little dastardly move. It it's really a
00:44:01
bummer to be on I mean like I've been you know I did a sketch show recently and the the budget was low and so it was
00:44:07
like they couldn't do two cameras running you know and it was like we're
00:44:10
just doing a quick set and I was like ah [ __ ] a because it's it's you're
00:44:14
really screwed kind of because >> [ __ ] a >> yeah [ __ ] a. I say to people, get get a crew of
00:44:23
three. Get like three actors together, do it on iPhones with maybe one sound person and just give yourself 12 days to
00:44:31
shoot, you know? I mean, yeah, >> sometimes these things are so magnificently done and then but there's
00:44:37
no they're there and you're flipping off immediately. >> Yeah. the you know
00:44:42
>> I think that's why also you know with chair company it's like you're
00:44:46
>> there is kind of an economy to how I mean yes we had like a full rig and
00:44:51
everything >> but there is an economy to the visual storytelling too you know it's like
00:44:56
she's using zooms you know it's like you're out here you're you're coming in
00:45:01
I mean that's just one shot but it's doing a lot you know >> I thought that show would be a little
00:45:08
more lowbudget only because it's just a funny guy to and he was also on what it was called I
00:45:14
think you should leave >> and so you just go I don't know what budget they're giving a guy who's just
00:45:18
funny because I don't know I mean sometimes they would spend on a big drama right
00:45:22
>> and so when you see these they're like >> they'll come up with something but it
00:45:28
looks great and I I kept thinking wow there's a lot happening here they're not
00:45:31
just >> it's not a cheap >> beautiful it's the first show too I was
00:45:36
going to say earlier that um it's the first show where I'm I noticed that in
00:45:41
the scripts, like when we're reading the scripts, I'm like, "Oh, this scene, this
00:45:45
whole scene, this like page and a half is purely for a joke." >> No. Or money for one joke.
00:45:53
>> Yeah. In a in a series, it's usually like, "Yeah, but why is this paying off
00:45:58
for the plot and like for this character to kind of like have an emotional arc and response in order to say something
00:46:05
about the No, >> it would be like, >> oh, we're just like there was this one,
00:46:09
I don't know if you've seen the the flashback Christmas, and this is not
00:46:12
giving away anything too much. >> Um, if you haven't seen it, a lot of
00:46:16
hand work here I'm doing. Um, and the there's a flashback to us at a Christmas
00:46:23
party. It's my my Christmas party. I used to be a lawyer. And they cast there's just a moment where like Ron's
00:46:30
talking a guy at the party, you know, and he's going, you know, get me out of
00:46:36
here. and they cast um an impersonator for Curly like from the sto >> and I don't think he's ever done
00:46:47
anything else except >> like >> yeah and you'll know you'll see it now
00:46:54
when you watch it. Okay. So, >> it's funny. >> And I remember coming to set and being
00:46:57
like, "Is he doing a" And they're like, "Yeah, he's a curly impersonator."
00:47:05
>> Okay. >> Like some PA. Yeah, he's >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He just he does
00:47:09
Cly >> just casual >> casual. And um and then they would do on set they would have him do this. He was
00:47:16
amazing. and him and Ron, him and and um Tim are talking and it's basically him
00:47:23
doing this kind of speech of [ __ ] Uh and he's chatting his ear off as Curly and they would turn up the curly
00:47:32
and then turn he had this actor turn down the curly and when they turned down the curly it it was almost like he
00:47:39
couldn't even he like couldn't find his line. You know what I mean? He was
00:47:44
always at this poor guy because he's like I do curly. All right. That's like
00:47:50
>> Yeah. Don't just curly. I don't I don't do shades of curly. Okay. I do
00:47:54
Shakespeare. I don't do depressed curly. I don't do bored curly. I do curly.
00:48:00
>> He was terrific. And you'll see in it. You really notice it's only for this.
00:48:04
It's tiniest lip. But boy is it good. But those textured things, even on SNL,
00:48:09
they'll have they'll bring a donkey in and it costs them five grand. And then
00:48:13
they'll go, "Just for a cutaway." And you go, "Ah, do we need the donkey for
00:48:17
sure?" But Lauren doesn't even question it. He goes, "No, I like it."
00:48:20
>> And then they're like, "Go find one." >> And everyone's like, "Oh, fuck." Because
00:48:24
it's so easy to cut it. They go, "That would save us so much." >> $5,000. We should be in the donkey
00:48:29
business. You'll be watching a rerun 20 years from now and you'll see the donkey
00:48:34
and you'll like be really really happy that >> you know like when they show like the
00:48:39
cold opening and then Lauren comes out and he's like talking backstage during
00:48:42
the monologue and behind him there's like Roman emperors and three donkeys and I never knew that they weren't in
00:48:47
the show. It was just like this is going to be the show and you're like oh that's
00:48:51
going to be a funny sketch. But he goes, "Uh, I need like an Egyptian backstage."
00:48:55
And then just all these weird things, people dressed in feathers. >> And then it's never a sketch.
00:49:01
>> Yeah. >> It's texture. >> Yeah. It's texture and it's so funny
00:49:06
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00:49:08
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told you that. Well, you were there doing Hunter Biden that Lauren is now at home base when the show starts and you
00:52:38
come out and kind of shake hands or hug him or whatever, you know. >> Let's get this one fist bump.
00:52:43
>> And normally you kind of would go behind the slats and then but I was dressed as
00:52:47
Joe Biden. So I had the gray wig, I had the whole thing on. I'd go out and I'd
00:52:51
shake hands with Lauren and then to make myself laugh, I would do a side thing as
00:52:59
fast as I could with tons of energy like jumping and skipping over to behind the
00:53:03
thing just to make myself laugh that they're seeing Biden going like >> act nuts before he comes out like this.
00:53:11
Come on. So people sad. But um anyway, uh do that is >> No. Oh, that's the po that's the poem.
00:53:21
And guess what? By the way, the fact of the matter is I'm being serious right
00:53:26
now. I'm not getting around. Get your facts straight, Jack. That's it. >> My cheeks are I'm really happy that you
00:53:36
>> like, tell us that you're cars or not. >> We're easy wind up talls.
00:53:39
>> I know. We're winding up Lake because she's a good laugher. >> Well, that was really special. I feel
00:53:44
like I just got like a little >> You just got a private show. Oh, good. It's a fun song.
00:53:49
>> I know. That was a beautiful song. You're a great Biden singer. And you
00:53:52
know, I was at the 50th and that was special show, too. And I I had never, you know, I hadn't been to the show in a
00:54:00
while. And it was like, >> you know, I hadn't sat in the audience, you know, and really tragic to to have a
00:54:06
little >> It's wild. >> Yeah. And guess who stole the show? What?
00:54:13
>> Guess who stole the 50th? Well, >> with David's line for the writers, it
00:54:19
was their favorite line of the night when he was in the bleachers going, >> "Oh, I got a feel for it.
00:54:24
>> I got a feel for it." >> Oh, because I left the sketch during the
00:54:27
middle >> during the big John Melany musical >> and then I sat in the audience and they
00:54:33
go, "Where's SP?" That's funny that they broke the fourth wall in the middle of a
00:54:36
sketch. >> Yeah. And the way you did it, like you truly were exhausted and kind of done
00:54:41
with it and they're up there dancing for their donuts and you're just like, I got
00:54:46
it. >> Dana, I saw that that 50th was >> won something the other night.
00:54:52
>> It was Critics's Choice. I think it was nominated. I think it won. >> It was best 50th anniversary show.
00:55:00
>> That's a new category. >> We were the only one up for it. >> Yeah.
00:55:03
>> Are you Do you root for any movie at the Golden Globes? Do you have any kind of I
00:55:07
think that person should win or I think that movie are you a one battle after another. Are you a Marty Supreme? Yeah.
00:55:14
What are >> you? >> No, I I I you know I don't get I award season gets it gets me like hives. I
00:55:20
don't know. I I just >> Here's Lake at the party. Did you think that was good at the lead actor one? And
00:55:26
you go I I didn't see any. I don't know who won. >> Well, you know, sometimes you get
00:55:30
anxiety. They they say to you, you know, who are you rooting for? What if you >> Oh, good. I gave you the precursor. I
00:55:36
love them all. >> Well, it's gotten pathetic. I grew up with the Oscars and now there's like 25
00:55:42
award shows. >> Award shows >> and I feel like some of them I won't
00:55:46
name them, but that they've got their acceptance speech and sometimes they can
00:55:49
peak at a at the SEG after awards or something. Then by the time they get to the Oscars,
00:55:56
>> they're exhausted with their acceptance speech. You got to hold some
00:55:59
>> I saw that Sandler didn't win something the other night and I'm like, I want to
00:56:02
hear Sandler's speech. They should just call my Who's got a good speech?
00:56:08
>> What are you going to do? >> Cuz you know he he had a good one at the
00:56:11
Palm Springs. We just do Adam from 25. >> That's all he says and everyone goes
00:56:23
get out of here. >> People would love it. >> But you know anyway, it's a promotion
00:56:28
for the business. That's all it is. And >> yeah, >> and for fashion, I guess. I don't know.
00:56:33
Um I have to say for like if she the fact that she's grinding it out and and
00:56:39
killing it uh the duration it's just hard to stay >> in showbiz for this long and you're
00:56:46
doing a great job. >> Well, but you're doing she's very hard to do. She's doing it all of show
00:56:51
businesses though. You're doing every quadrant. You're not an actress waiting
00:56:54
for the phone. Did it ring? >> That's Yeah, I that is I it would drive
00:56:58
me crazy. I think when I feel um sedentary, like when I feel >> too um quiet,
00:57:06
>> I like to I think I do like control. I do like to creatively, you know, kind of drum up and so I'm
00:57:14
always writing. I got like >> Yeah. I mean, you I I think this audio book was very cool. I just looked it up
00:57:19
and listening to it. >> Inside voices. It was very interesting just about she was interviewing people
00:57:24
and talking about do you like your voice and how important the voice is and what
00:57:29
Yeah. >> Well, because I think in extension of my work with in a world, I've just always
00:57:34
been really >> um interested and curious about our speaking voice as this kind of calling
00:57:41
card >> for all the histories we've ever endured, you know, and >> yeah,
00:57:45
>> kind of, you know, we carry a lot. I mean whether you uh realize it or not
00:57:50
obviously accents and dialects and a little like how your vowels come out you know might cue that you grew up in
00:57:56
Philadelphia or you know things like that but then how we kind of puff out or peacock a little bit when we're you know
00:58:04
in different scenarios like I'm articulating a little more than I normally do you know right now I think
00:58:09
I'm also a little bit lower in my register in this moment talking about this because I'm speaking more
00:58:15
>> serious yeah Yeah, voices are fingerprints. >> Voice I mean you know someone from their
00:58:21
voice your whole life and even if they age or get the voice always sort of recognizable.
00:58:27
>> Yeah. And and also it can be really like it can make me crawl too, you know. I
00:58:33
have certain one, >> you know, if if someone comes in >> um for a job interview, you know, or
00:58:40
something like that. I mean to be a babysitter or whatever, you know, or or an assistant. And if their voice, I'm
00:58:47
very sensitive to it. So, it's like >> we're we're out on that job. Dana,
00:58:53
>> David has a cool voice. You know, I don't have a voice. I don't have a face
00:58:56
or a voice. I'm just neutral. I could go You could make me a character or make my
00:59:01
voice go. Lately, I've been doing Carrie Grant, leaving messages for a friend
00:59:06
just every day. Every day that you get the call. I hope you're having a good
00:59:09
day. Did you see one battle after another that the Caprio kids very good? See, but you're chameleon. So that is in
00:59:18
itself your vocal dexterity is like I'm in awe of that. You know, >> in two seconds it changes completely.
00:59:26
>> I It's fun. I don't really practice it or anything, but I'm working on Billy
00:59:30
Bob Thordon in in his land man character, you know. >> Okay. I don't I didn't see that so I
00:59:35
can't >> Yeah, it's another one that's I couldn't describe it, but it's it goes surprising
00:59:40
places. I have to say >> it's it's totally different than than your your show, but it it goes
00:59:48
surprising places and he's just great >> in inside voice. You know, I talked to
00:59:53
like the likes of iconic voices like um like Jeff Goldblum and like where did that start, you know, and like
01:00:01
Barrymore, you know, people who have been very >> imitated, you know, very impersonated
01:00:07
for sure voices. Yeah. >> Yes. I do Billy Bob in his T-Mobile commercial. Land Man.
01:00:14
>> I'm kidding. >> Okay. >> He does a T-Mobile commercial where he's
01:00:18
like from Land Man, right Dana? Have you seen it? >> Basically. Yeah. >> He's walking out in the desert. Come on
01:00:23
now. Whatever he's talking about. >> Yeah. You know, T-Mobile's got more. You
01:00:28
know what the [ __ ] going on here? Godamn it. No, he's they have the f-word, too. I mean, that's the same
01:00:35
your your show. It just those fly whenever they fly. or they fly >> and they do whatever you you know. Do
01:00:41
>> you find Dana that like to get into an accent or diale Sorry, now we're getting
01:00:46
into like my obsession, but like do you find that you you have a bridge uh phrase um because I find with accents
01:00:53
dialects I have like a a bridge or a phrase to get >> Oh yeah, >> a thousand%.
01:00:58
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Thousand%. >> You don't just jump in. You you got
01:01:01
>> a hook. Yeah. Yeah. You need a you need a little hook. And for Biden it was
01:01:05
that. Guess what? Yeah. And by the way, the fact of the matter is, come on. And so that got me into it and then I could
01:01:12
kind of talk like him. But that was a challenge. But anyway, it's always things are coming at me. I mean, know
01:01:17
Trump's been done forever. You know, I don't know if you guys are aware of
01:01:19
that. How many people doing an impression? So >> there's there's I think Pierce Morgan
01:01:25
has a very interesting voice. >> Uhhuh. >> And I think that Senator Kennedy has a
01:01:30
you know, obviously Bobby Kennedy Jr. I do, but yeah, there's a lot of people
01:01:34
out there. And there's regular movie stars. Anyway, it's fun. But um shall we
01:01:39
wrap it up? I don't know. I don't know if you have any other questions because
01:01:42
we think you you're a >> she mother with two children. >> Thank you for doing your hair.
01:01:48
>> She writes, she directs. She does. >> It's not quite the golden gloves. Now,
01:01:52
when you do a podcast, we had heard that when we have an actress on, they might not want to come on video because it's
01:02:01
they have to doll up. And I said, I think in podcast you catch a little bit of a break.
01:02:05
>> You You do. And you know somewhere in the middle >> want glam. And I was like,
01:02:11
>> I mean, I think I can do the glam. I can glam in my bathroom, you know, with my
01:02:18
curling iron and >> with a banana clip and a scrunchie and >> you know, but I don't know.
01:02:24
>> Well, you're photogenic. I mean, I'll just just saying it kind of casually.
01:02:28
You really have great features. Yeah. Um it's it just you I'm sure directors
01:02:34
say you don't have a bad angle probably you know um >> but uh yeah it's fine and I do think
01:02:40
we're all used to this and you know I have a couple ring lights in a window and I mean we're all kind of a little
01:02:45
more than the early days where it was pitch black and no one we were doing now you see people it looks like a studio.
01:02:52
>> Well I hope I get to see you guys at these parties. Yeah, >> I I do. I've quoted you often throughout
01:02:58
the years because when we did the press junket, you know, it's the awkward goodbye because we've been hanging out
01:03:04
all day with Bobby Moyahan and laughing and stuff and then it's like, hey, and
01:03:08
then you just said see you around campus. >> I Yeah, I did say that. >> And so I use that a lot.
01:03:14
>> Well, because it's kind of like >> it's fun, >> right? So, let's say a lot.
01:03:18
>> We're all at college basically. We're going to run into each other. We're in
01:03:21
show business, which is weirdly such a tiny group of people in the big picture. You know, there's not that many parties
01:03:28
or that many comedians or whatever. >> It's like a party and you see someone
01:03:32
who you don't you haven't met before, but you both are actors and you both
01:03:36
know that other are actors and you do the kind of like hi, >> you know, >> that's how I'm going to say hi to you.
01:03:44
>> Like I know, you know, we both know that we know each other. Here's Lake. When I
01:03:51
see her at the Golden Globe, I go, "Hi, Lake." And you go, "Hi, I know you from
01:03:54
somewhere." And I go, >> "Wait, where did we >> Yeah, we just
01:03:57
>> Well, the go, it's so nice to see you. When you don't know if you've met them
01:04:02
or not. >> Yep. >> We have when they give you a soft hug and you see that they're looking over at
01:04:09
a bigger celebrity, >> they're going, I got to get >> I've never had anyone even look at me at
01:04:15
those parts. They just go like this. >> Oh, come on. Usually they say, "Um,
01:04:20
could I can I get a freshen up?" >> They go to give me a hug by the shoulders and then they move me.
01:04:26
>> They move you over to the side. >> Bonitio. >> Benitio. >> One time we went to a party, David got
01:04:33
on my shoulders and I was like, you couldn't see me and then he was dancing around with a marach thing going on.
01:04:39
>> Look at me. >> Yeah. >> Well, like why is like so popular? Like
01:04:46
even I hear even more on every show and with just like No, you don't say it hardly at all. You said like maybe
01:04:53
twice. >> But like is really good. It was like really hard and I was like very scared
01:04:58
and I was like >> really hard. It's like really hard to >> I like when they don't finish it. They
01:05:03
go it's kind of like >> Yeah. they don't finish the sentence >> and you're like you just got to like
01:05:09
that's all you got to >> but that's been around since the 80s or 70s sort of called the valley girl but
01:05:14
it's even still this back with people from everywhere I don't >> it's still here it's I mean
01:05:20
>> it's better than the like I said it >> oh >> because we're kind of we're kind of
01:05:25
teasing it a little bit >> I'm gonna if I hear myself say I'm gonna
01:05:28
substitute lake for like it's like it's lake >> it's like >> it's like I didn't even know but it's
01:05:34
lake >> see if we can start a thing. >> Well, sometimes you're allowed to
01:05:38
utilize it as a a version of as if. It is like, >> right. No, it's it it has utility as a
01:05:46
word. >> Utility. >> Yeah. It's not completely, you know. All right. Uh, thank you, Dana. I made you
01:05:53
lunch. Come in the kitchen. >> Um, >> the the chair company on HBO, which
01:05:58
makes quality products, I have to say, you know, HBO is a big >> HBO doesn't [ __ ] around.
01:06:04
They don't they don't make shitty ones. And so this is uh HBO Max Jim Downey,
01:06:08
our friends on it. Timar >> Tell them >> Oh, tell him hello. >> You want me to I
01:06:16
>> He was my head writer when I was there. I had to report to him. >> Okay.
01:06:20
>> Crazy. We all We all kind of did. >> If you if you run into Downey, just go,
01:06:25
"What was it like to be a regular infantryman in George Washington's army
01:06:29
in the latter part of the war?" and he'll give you two hours. The guy goes
01:06:34
into libraries and colleges. He's from Harvard or Yale. I don't know. He's the
01:06:38
brainiac of all time in terms of American history. >> Really? >> He's fascinating to listen to. Yeah.
01:06:44
>> I I don't with him. >> I can't believe I ignore him so much.
01:06:47
>> Oh, you haven't. Yeah. You don't interact with him. You're at home.
01:06:50
>> Barb is >> Barb is over there. >> All right. >> Shut up, Barb. Barb.
01:06:57
>> Shut up, Barb. >> Trosper. Trosper. >> Yeah, Trosper. Barb. Prosper. Ron,
01:07:02
>> I'm Barbrosper. >> Even stupider. >> I'm Barb Trosper.
01:07:06
>> I remember I was like even the words like Fisher Rob >> is the name of the mall company.
01:07:14
>> Yeah, that's so dumb. Someone's working overtime on these dumb names.
01:07:18
>> Oh, it's so >> a chair company. Quick walking around the mall. There's something about a
01:07:23
mall. Walking around a mall. It's really funny. >> Makes sense. But it's like a robot. I
01:07:28
just kept being like I'm dyslexic. I was like pretty sure that like I couldn't
01:07:33
>> blind um Oh, there was something else like I kept saying a name wrong. Oh, this is
01:07:40
really fun. Sorry, last thing. But they would say like there's um the the the
01:07:46
girlfriend like the fiance of our daughter is named Tara, >> but we intentionally say it wrong. So
01:07:52
sometimes it's Tara >> and Tara. And I was like, "Is it Tara or Tara?" And they're like, "It's fine.
01:07:57
Don't worry about it." And I was like, "But is it?" They're like,
01:08:00
>> "Because that happens in real life. People say >> and it's just because we don't like her,
01:08:05
you know, >> I love people like that are in charge of this that are not control freaks and are
01:08:11
open to the mistakes and the weirdness and the quirky >> and we don't it's terror. Terror terror
01:08:19
t >> All right, Lake, thank you. I have to go microwave. >> I appreciate you coming on.
01:08:24
>> Nice to see you, Lake. See you around campus. Hey guys, if you're loving this podcast,
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Episode Highlights

  • Lake Bell's Unique Name
    Lake Bell discusses the uniqueness of her name in show business.
    “It’s kind of the coolest name you could have in show business.”
    @ 00m 46s
    March 12, 2026
  • The Fun of Kitchenettes
    A light-hearted discussion about the joys of having a kitchenette.
    “You’re in a guest room has got a kitchenette. You’re like, I’ve made it.”
    @ 06m 10s
    March 12, 2026
  • The Challenge of Voice Acting
    Lake Bell shares insights about the challenges of voice acting and recording.
    “You’re behind a glass. You’re in a booth.”
    @ 17m 26s
    March 12, 2026
  • Fashion and Identity
    Discussion around personal style and the challenges of celebrity appearances.
    “I love the tension.”
    @ 19m 44s
    March 12, 2026
  • Nostalgia for Simplicity
    Reflecting on the simplicity of past experiences compared to today's complexities.
    “You won’t really remember almost any of this problems.”
    @ 30m 09s
    March 12, 2026
  • Unique Tone and Surprises
    The show is praised for its unique tone and unexpected moments that keep viewers engaged.
    “It gets not where you think ever.”
    @ 34m 34s
    March 12, 2026
  • The Power of Rehearsal
    Discussing the importance of capturing genuine moments in comedy, the conversation highlights how rehearsal can lead to unexpected humor.
    “Shoot the rehearsal. I was in a movie once.”
    @ 38m 58s
    March 12, 2026
  • Curly Impersonator Moment
    A humorous anecdote about a Curly impersonator on set showcases the lengths taken for comedic effect.
    “I don’t do shades of curly. Okay. I do curly.”
    @ 47m 52s
    March 12, 2026
  • Wellness Made Easy
    Gruns offers a simple wellness solution packed into tasty gummies. 'I don’t have to think twice.'
    “I don’t have to think twice.”
    @ 51m 22s
    March 12, 2026
  • SNL Behind the Scenes
    A humorous glimpse into SNL interactions and performances. 'Guess who stole the show?'
    “Guess who stole the show?”
    @ 54m 12s
    March 12, 2026
  • The Importance of Voice
    A discussion on how our voices reflect our identities and histories. 'Voices are fingerprints.'
    “Voices are fingerprints.”
    @ 58m 18s
    March 12, 2026
  • Podcast Engagement
    Encourages listeners to follow and share the podcast.
    “Hey guys, if you’re loving this podcast, be sure to click follow”
    @ 01h 08m 31s
    March 12, 2026

Episode Quotes

  • I love mugs and I like a funky mug.
    Lake Bell (Always Better Than Lake Titicaca)
  • It's so awkward.
    Lake Bell (Always Better Than Lake Titicaca)
  • It’s hard to watch kids get so much anxiety.
    Lake Bell (Always Better Than Lake Titicaca)
  • You could strangle that comedy in a second with a different director.
    Lake Bell (Always Better Than Lake Titicaca)
  • Well, that was really special. I feel like I just got a little private show.
    Lake Bell (Always Better Than Lake Titicaca)
  • Because that happens in real life.
    Lake Bell (Always Better Than Lake Titicaca)

Key Moments

  • Lake Bell Introduction00:23
  • Voice Acting Insights17:26
  • Curly Impersonator46:54
  • Wellness Simplified51:04
  • Voice as Identity57:41
  • Real Life Reflection1:08:00
  • Goodbye to Lake1:08:19
  • Podcast Promotion1:08:31

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