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we've got a good one today Dana uh one of my favorites Melissa McCarthy she I've been trying to get her on here for a while but she her and Ben Falone her husband came in and uh lots of good hard
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laughs along with some info and interesting stuff right we get we get into uh basically a classic as of now uh bridesmaids and how she got that part
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what she did in the part and how that came through we talk about Ghostbusters the all female cast that she was is a
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part of and uh we talk about when she went on SNL for a few episodes doing Sean Spicer uh and driving the uh Podium around around New York and benone her
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husband who directs a lot of her movies super smart nice guy and just their their marital relationship as also being work work life Partners so it's and
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you'll see him in a lot of these movies because he's if you don't know him by the name you'll know him because he's a
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funny performer as well he sat next to her and bridesmaids I'll say that I think everyone's seen the movie already
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but uh every time I get on a flight there's someone watching bridesmaids yeah a great movie and I'd
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not Melissa had worked but then that one just like blew up exploded because she was so good in that movie and and just had this long career they're very humble nice people easy to talk to so I would I
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would press play if that's what you do or just stop did they meet in the Groundlings is that how it happened yes they met in the Groundlings and we do talk about their love relationship and
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when they knew and when they first saw each other and it really happened in one class one time when Ben gets on stage
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she'll you'll hear that story it's really fun yeah so here they are Melissa McCarthy and Ben
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[Music] Falcone uh they're CR hey all right oh this is cute we've never had a loving Duo we've had little wide shots but
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nobody kind of cozied up like that okay we're getting divorced later this afternoon don't worry
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about that is my theory and it didn't work my theory is that when couples come out celebrity couples and say it's just
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never been better it's just so much love and they're on Instagram and stuff divorced 6 weeks later that was my
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theory but I [ __ ] up with Ben Affleck I thought they were going to stay together cuz it seemed so obvious that
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they were having trouble so [ __ ] real yeah you can swear on this podcast but we won't swear very
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much Dana and I are separating later today also oh no what hotel are you guys staying in I mean you don't have to say the name but that's a very nice that's not your house is it this is yeah we
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have a little place here oh here being wherever that is wher we cause we don't want to cause anything wa but are you shooting something right now presently I she is I who me well or
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she did only murders in the building is everywhere I did I did that AO David but
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it's out now it's on uh Hulu that is a being oh my God being there with Marty and Steve and like that whole group that was there it was like a fever dream like
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I literally was like when I wake up and they're just like that didn't happen but you've been really ill I was like okay
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just enjoy it now cuz it seemed crazy Eugene Levy Zack galanakis Ava Longoria playing
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themselves Molly Shannon and then you play Steve Martin's sister yeah it must have been uh it must have been a fun set
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like everybody just goofing around right must have been a fun set ever get serious you like that guy yeah I like him he digs deep
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um no it was so fun it was like Mar the like well you know but like Marty just he never stops making F of Steve and it was like the greatest sporting event I've ever um got to watch fun and Steve
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just like wouldn't acknowledge and I was like I could I could watch this like all day every day
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yeah plus doesn't Steve help right because to have someone like those two guys even throwing jokes in or just
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being in the vicinity of how fun it's just too perfect it's yeah they're they're they're dream boats I'll say it
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I'll say it too I those are my two uh Mount rushmor because I'm in college in the
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late 70s one's on satv and and one is touring the world in stadiums and and wild and crazy guys so those are my two from my age group yes which is my age group yeah that's those were the two
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those were like two of the guys you were just like you're never gonna meet them that that' be crazy that guy's doing
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what I want to do better than I'll ever do it right now on television but I I Can Dream you know so you are not
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currently promoting anything you to for this podcast or are you we are we are well that's okay we we done anyway let's get it out of the way and then I've got some uh pretty deep divey questions yeah
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well if it's on a posted those look like one one word you just showed us something where I just
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see Ser one word spread raccoon [Laughter] don't give it away Dan not giving it away they don't see it no others six hours ahead okay what are you currently
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what what is um uh I was going for the name of your production company only for us one in a Time on the day Productions what is on
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the day Productions up to well uh Ben and our good friend Steve mallerie who we've written movies with he's we met
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him at groundling super funny guy they have written this bizarre medieval comedy that so we're doing a podcast that's like a radio play you always explain it best so like
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we just did the hardest version of doing a podcast that you could ever do right so we because that's I sort of thought
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oh it'd be fun to do a podcast but then it's all everything that you have to do with a liveaction production except we don't have the visual part but I mean it's literally it's a fully produced uh
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show called Hildy the barback in the Lake of Fire and it's a comedy medieval um you know radio play it's like
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basically like a book on tape yeah um but with a ton of different voices and funny people super funny super funny
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people and then they were like oh we should make it harder there's an original song in each one I'm like we're doing this really poorly because this is
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taking so much work but it's really fun it's been I did it uh during the pandemic one called it's called the
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weird place went through everything you just mentioned just making a film but just Audy and all the different rules and games of like drawing them in and effects and music and mixing and voice
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yeah so I I have empathy for you too what you've just been through yeah and just being like and when when I first read it also like part of the joke of the like the first thing is everything
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is with the G so it's like you know gorth and gandria and GL and I literally was like I I don't know if I could read it was like breaking my brain and then I was like oh I think at 54 I figured out
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I might be dyslexic y and because I well either I was like wow fun facts fun facts he said these are the things we're learning I might be
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dyslexic e car Kam sorry I trying to do McCarthy backwards pretty good attempt let me ask you this how many EP when how many
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episodes and how long are they there are eight episodes in season one they're about 30 minutes long a piece and and they're writing season two now we are writing season two which and is it out
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now October 25th the first episode drops and then every Friday after that okay perfect perfect now it's it's basically it sounds like it's like writing a movie or TV show that hard and then yeah but
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it's for this so it's a it's a lot to get for an audience for a podcast that's good it's good for the audience it's a lot it's a lot and there's so it is like so many weird tricks because when you're
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like well wait talking about like you know their Centaur like all these things and I'm like how do you how do you describe this crazy like Middle Earth world that's also a comedy without just
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pure Exposition yes so that was the biggest thing was to try to and so Octavia Spencer is our narrator so that
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was step one so we just got a great narrator so she she can say kind of anything and it works yeah that seemed
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definitely and you're like oh that sounds wonderful geez we're smart yes and she can she can fill in gaps and
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stuff where to explain lupio was sad as he as he galloped through the forest on his gra Brave stallion he drew a sepor at a oncoming stranger uh you're
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hired I was gonna say absolutely here's the deal which you guys are ready for but maybe this will become a feature film because it is like sort of a you know or a series but you
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you know I learned with that one cuz we had eight and everyone loved it and they came came out y do now where's
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nine what that was so much work you're like never it's like Bridgerton you gotta go in 2028 we will have the next one yeah
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so you just be ready for that you'll have super fans that'll be obsessed by it and when's the next episode 2028
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[ __ ] you don't have to say [ __ ] I just threw that out I now though and I'll steal a a brierton thing I'll be
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like no I just thought of that take anything well do you have is it PG13 or do you have actual audio sex scenes in this thing let's get to it oh
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there's there's there's lots of there's lots of swearsies in it lots of saries and then there's centaurs that are super sexually fluid that want to hit everything in front of it except me and
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actually the elves Kingdom of elves it sounds funny and the elves have sex with everybody
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except for Hildy who's Melissa's character so why is hild not getting any action and then as a parying gift they
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give they give gifts to everybody and their various things and then my I'm like oh what is this is a magic potion and they're like it's conditioner for
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your hair for your really dry hair hair is so Dr okay so I get where it's come does your character ever P do you ever pound on the chest of a prince and say
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you impossible be Beast does that again we're hiring that character season two yes I do climb do I have to climb inside the Giant's Ure she does she stabs in
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his urethra so this okay so it's Fantastic Voyage in a different way you're going inside the body through the Ure so it's a it's sort of an adult show just the once it's adult it's adult it's
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adult okay and the title is prancing in the Enchanted Forest now what is it I can't
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it went out of my brain I'm sorry gildy and the gildy Monsters Hildy the barback in the Lake of Fire because she's a
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barback barback I love Barb Lake of Fire that's funny go things that don't go together they absolutely
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don't Melissa I was on the road this weekend and I and I realized when people talk about the weather it's just a nice thing to talk about and people think it's very trite but if you're in an elevator you go it's kind of hot today
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and they go oh yeah everyone sort of agrees it's a good starter right and then you say what's going on with
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Lebanon right before they get off you know so you just kind of switch it up because you say we've laid the
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groundwork we all agree on something and then now let's fight you put a base coat and then you just
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just you understand when can you not say isn't the political environment crazy when when is that shelf life can you still kind of announce that in an elevator what's going on man it's crazy
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out there it actually makes it start talking about it so you can't do that you can't even say it's just nuts let's
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not talk about this and they go well and then you go we're going to make sure that you two don't talk I'm where do you
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want to go because I'm kind of my first blink Instinct besides promoting this is
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uh the husband wife Dynamic creatively and so I wrote a list a list of husbands who've directed their wives there's the list and I think it's kind of interesting this Dynamic what it does to
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your relationship or how can you know all all that stuff and how you communicate Robert Roberto rosalini and
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ingred Bergman sure okay okay Vincent Manelli and Judy Garland true again okay Jud Appel and
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Leslie appow know them yes seen it na John krinski Emily Blunt sure Ben still that worked out well oh yeah yeah I thought the quiet director in the
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Qui twice yeah and those were great movies Sam Mendes and um Kate Winslet great okay and and Ben is it Falcone or falcon FAL FAL that's wish it
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was Falon I mean if it was Falcon it would be Falcon when the kids go to bed he becomes the Falcon I mean it's it's I would Falon
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Aviator he flies I I'm on Daily Mail most of the time so I know what is happening in the world it's it's cocaine for immature brain but anyway just um so
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you guys really started working together and it was it sort of like this is my blink on that is like you're doing a
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movie Ben's writing or producing what's your blink and then it's like a small leap to like because I I always tell
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kids I tell the kids people under 50 you know directing is Blink because they think I know this lens and I know a 45 L's you know it's all about Blink right
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and so if your husband's there and his blink is the best on the set well what who it was organically happened right let you direct it you know and then what's blink blink is like blink is
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Spielberg looking at Robert Shaw doing and there's a take and he goes yes that's that's it oh who who could who who has a gut instinct to kind of know
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when it's working and then what to do with the pieces and that can I mean I was on a movie once and the makeup
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artist was the smartest guy in on the film sure he just was talking casually and he just had this blink Instinct of when it was working why it was working yeah blink the kids saying blink I like
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blink I just made it up you it's like fetch Dana is starting it today I'm gonna go next time I leave an elevator I'm gonna go you guys I just saying that you all have really good
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blink in here and walk out yeah get it going get it going get get trending no we met we met at Groundlings okay you met at Groundlings that was the first problem we met at the Groundlings that's
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a album and first blank we just would write together all the time and like he and and perform together and then when we we first got a chance to actually do
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a movie we were meeting people nothing was working out and it really was like I think it was it was Toby but some like
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you why doesn't why doesn't Ben direct it and I was like because we kept going back to nobody knew the story as well as
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he did so since we wrote it they said we could direct it and then she was filming a movie so basically then she couldn't
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co-direct it so then I ended up directing it and she ended up producing it so it's like a that kind of vibe
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which is pretty weird when you never think you're GNA get to do anything and then you get to do your own thing I just
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remember us driving on the lot and literally being like think we're kicked off I mean
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they're all look people are looking at us like we're supposed to know something anything and we're just like oh my God it's like that was was it yeah
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Tammy Tammy was the first one and that was that was great can I go back for a second just into romance for a second
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because we have a lot of fale fans because of David just so you meet and the The Arc or the evolution of
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when was the thought that first came into either head like I think I want to I might want to marry this person was it was it week one a year later or you're
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not sure don't remember and I'll let you know no hey um no I knew I knew kind of
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immediately we were in a class you're also like everyone's just TR trying to be the bigger like idiot to make people
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laugh and everyone's we were doing monologues and including myself it was like stupid and loud and somebody was really loud before you were going to be really louder crazier and then Ben got
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up to do his and he was he was someone's new um prison roommate and he room I'm putting a gentle spin on it but
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he was really really quiet and he just did and it was like he wasn't competing with anybody and everyone was like kind of leaning forward because it was super creepy but super funny and I immediately
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was like oh he's doing like he's not trying too hard he's doing his own thing and I literally I I think like that was the first day and I I think I already knew I was like I kind of like him like
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it was immediately like I was fascinated and I thought oh I like that he's not having to like be the loudest craziest
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and he's what he's doing is funnier than everybody else so I was like blink blink okay Ben's Ben's same story you blinked
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it she had a blink first day same story for you choosing in that moment to go quiet getting kind of looking at her out
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of the side of your eye wait till she sees this or no was it a flirting bit or was it just a regular comedy bit you're
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trying to work the room yeah um okay so when when I was doing that monologue I I
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knew I liked Melissa a lot because she it I she felt like a friend that I wanted to hang out with immediately and
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then the love bloomed shortly thereafter um the that particular monologue I just
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was I think it was the first one that we had all done so I was just panicked and I thought I was doing terrible I was saying I remember one of my lines was uh
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I know I'm not the prettiest owl in the barn but I'm still fun to work with or something like that like weird [ __ ]
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where I'm like what am I what am I saying why am I talking like this and then she and she says everyone was
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laughing they were not there was one person laughing this lady was laughing all laughing I I felt like I was tanking
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but I I was like so when I started tanking I think what she liked is that I went softer instead of louder because I
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was like well I'm clearly bombing so just going to go I'm going to do this was it smooth sailing after that or were
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there any other you know acting classes or like sex labs were there any other suitors for either of you oh yeah did
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you guys I got so emotional when you come to the back seat of my car um so but you class was so deep you know acting classes I mean come on it's a pet
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tree dish for you know it really is they tell you to make out someone in a scene
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you have to kiss ever in scenes or no it's not really acting it's I mean it's acting but it's more improv
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or it was written scenes and they were written scenes and improv scenes both okay but no we never like we never did any like there was no like oh well write
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like a smooch into a scene so I can kiss him it's more like afterwards like a really dive bar I was like well mean if you're going to hang out I'll have if you're going to have another beer I'll
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have if we want to hang out so we kept on hanging out and just having W me cuz we're like we wanted to hang out but we
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we should and no one would make a move kind of thing yeah oh that's so sweet there was like no one revealed their
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their cards initially soon we became such good friends and also like it's that weird thing of when you're like I'd like to change the dynamic like I don't
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know how I think both of us didn't know how to weirdly bring that up but we were both i' I've been wondering about
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changing the dynamic that's takes us in a different direction is this character change the dynamic guy in a movie cuz that's pretty funny I like to change the dynamic something gar
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would say like starts talks when he gets nervous what well what about you also if
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you say that and then the other person isn't into it then it ruins everything I know changes No Matter What Not only
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would a relationship not work out but then you're going to lose like someone who's become like one of your closest friends so we just did a
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then so it was like a weird a weird start but yeah but then but that was what 25 years ago so it's good Lord and you start working together start doing
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stuff the first one together was Tammy but you had done you were doing a movie before that or you were on Gilmore Girls
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at some point around Gilmore we had done bridesmaids together we were we were married yeah we were already married yeah we were married on that we married
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years is just a couple of days ago yeah so I'm not I went to I went to Junior College I'm G to call it 2005 then yeah 19 around yeah and so bridesmaids when
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was that when was that era that would have been 200 11 11 20 so you've been married six
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years when that happens and when does Tammy happen is that that's the first time Ben Ben directed yeah that was not
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so after bridesma I think it came out 2014 yeah years ago so did how did brid Maids do I was out of the country during the time was it a was it a hit flop it
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did pretty well you know I'm kidding right Ben was such a Ben was a hilarious in Bridesmaids because um uh I didn't know you guys were connected in any way
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in real life and uh and when he comes it's just it's just such a great score part and funny and uh of course Melissa
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was um did you know after that Melissa was that sort of a bumping up move that move the needle sort of situation careerwise oh yeah for everybody oh my God that's because I we
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were all in Groundlings together and like we couldn't believe when we like when Annie and chrisen were like were
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writing a movie for Jud I just remember all of us being like is that possible like we were truly just like we're so
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happy for them but it was also literally like saying something that you're like I what like we couldn't
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process it but it was so exciting and then they had been casting it for a while and and then I they called me to come in and I almost didn't
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because I got so ner I knew this was such a big moment for them and I got a little nervous I was like oh my God if
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I'm too weird and I don't want to make them if I'm go in and I'm weird and then I don't want it to reflect poorly on them so the whole way there I was like I shouldn't go and I I do I never had done
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that for other auditions but this is also the first time our good friends were at auditioning for your good
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friends yeah like P you don't know if it's like a favor or if it's like do I ruin it for them yeah I was like I don't
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want to screw up and then they're somehow damaged so I went in and I was reading with Kristen and because we knew
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each other so well so we kind of went off the rails and we were like we did the audition but also we were
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improvising and I got back in car and I'm like oh my God I think I said something about hand play with a dolphin
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and because I was just kind of working with her and then I forgot and I was like I I was too weird I was like I was
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too she came home and she was like I talked about sex with a dolphin and I'm like I've got to call them and apologize
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and then when I got it I was like wait what so well just what do you say to her Ben when she comes in and says I don't know I I might have blown it I mean how do
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you hey honey you're great you know I mean what's what do you say well you know honestly because she said I think I I I think I might have gone too far because I said something about hand play
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with a dolphin and of course I was like funny that sounds pretty funny to me so that's a funny hand play with doing
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funny that will they'll hear that and go at least on the set you can turn her up
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or down but she will come up with [ __ ] to say and then you can use it or not that's probably what happened i' never
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were funny as [ __ ] yeah it was that whole movie Caught everybody off guard there there was The Hangover the first
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one and uh Tropic Thunder some Will Ferrell movies yeah and then this movie to this day my sister sends me YouTube clips of scenes from that movie and I
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wasn't I didn't really watch The Gilmore Girls I guess I knew of you or something but when I saw you in the movie it was
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just all new to me uh the character you were playing how confident you were and everything and some about that's just
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like one of those movies that just is a great you comedy you know for all everyone scoring you scoring and everybody and it was so like on set you
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how Paul and chrisen and Annie were they're just like yeah do it like go go go like try it try it do whatever like
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we have it we have it the way it's written now do whatever you want and when you have people like that just root
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like they're rooting for you actively to be like a a total jackass it's like you
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it just felt like we were back at the theater and you know we're like I don't know it's funny for us because I had never done
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everything that I did at the Groundlings was kind of more bombastic and the only thing I'd ever really done was kind of
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more mild and like had Gilmore Girls but so it was so fun and but I don't know that we thought people were gonna we
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didn't know how it was going to be received sure and even that weekend people were like really managed
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expectations we don't think it's going well and I was like but I think it's really funny and they were like we know
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the metrics on these it's not going to go well and I was like I think you're wrong not be funny I know and I was like
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what a terrible call to get it seems like all the movies that work is like there's got to be some improv involved
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because when you're in a scene you can you can write it you can read it you can table read it and then when you get out there there's always just something
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alive about right that second of like here we are that's funny over there I'm going to mention this and then whatever
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it is somehow as long as you get maybe an extra take in my experience is those the ones that people they they remember the throwaways and the weirdest [ __ ] totally over time you know screening it
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might not be the biggest laugh but then later they go that means something I just think that's the magic yeah yeah
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Gary chany Larry David and I that to have Kristen back there who knows what it's like to be out in with the bullets
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both of you have you been in really shitty experiences where the script supervisor looks up and says uh your
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hand was on the table when you said that line you know th that kind of constriction and a director that's never
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been in front of the camera so a little under cuty or awkward I mean maybe you guys took control of your career so early but did you have any experience like that because that sounds like heaven to me to be out there and look up
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seeing Kristen wig and Paul and they're feeding you lines too like you can run in a line to Kristen
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she can run in one to you and you're like oh my God everybody's do it on that movie you hear something you'd shout out to somebody else like don't think don't
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don't think just go do it do it do it yeah yeah because I've definitely had the because that was like the first time
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I didn't know sets could be like that at all because I'd had you know guest stars and stuff where you're literally just
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expected to come in hit your marks say your line in a in a way that if you're on a multicam the audience laughs a
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little bit if you're not you make the director smile a little bit and you go home and you're like I don't know if I'm
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gonna be in the movie or not you know and this was the first this was the first time that I didn't think about any
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of that stuff in fact to your point earlier I used to choose props that didn't help me at all because I didn't want to ruin stuff because you know script you might come in and go you have
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that in your left hand when you said the first part of yourart line and be like so then I would just like put stuff down
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and I'd just be standing there my hands just like uh you know so I've definitely
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well they would you always think you're not GNA not use a a great take because the editing might be a hair off who
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gives a [ __ ] we're not winning an editing award it's like people get it they go this was the funniest one even
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though you had a different shirt on in one of cuts and the the matching Department all
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doing their job makeup hair and coming in really are you I think it's good no um could we do a little in the hair no I think so but the more thrown away it was
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but whatever happened in that movie it just bounces it's like and it's such a following R was onong hero too Rose did
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such a great job amazing that movie supposedly straight part I know I only knew her from damages which I was like
00:30:34
she was so good in that like that show was so incredible but it was so like heavy and dark and then she came in and
00:30:42
I was like oh you're also really really [ __ ] funny I was like that seems like you've got two scoops and you and oh but I do to say that's a ripoff Two Scoops
00:30:52
she's she is the greatest worst person to break she breaks there's a scene on the airplane if you look close you can see she literally just because she just
00:31:06
laughs fully out loud and she and it's like so endearing but she was like I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry but then
00:31:11
finally she could not stop laughing and she was in the background of us and there's a part in the movie where you
00:31:17
just see Rosie's little arms go up and she's like and she has a magazine up but they're shaking and it makes me laugh oh my God what I for that it's great that's
00:31:29
the one magic of film is that you're not supposed to laugh so it creates this tension like being at the dinner table
00:31:34
Thanksgiving and the uncle Falls over was it spy you were in with her spy oh my God her yes with her and her 42 pounds of
00:31:47
hair spy was another hysterical one I've seen so many you've been in and always such a [ __ ] they're so great you do such a good job
00:31:58
[Music] the heat St Vincent anyone you want spy can you ever forgive me Oscar nomination osar Sandy yes I mean wonderful that was like
00:32:12
the best was great too Sandy Bullock Sandy Bullock I feel like got and Sandy really early on and I I think it's
00:32:23
like I just felt like it was like oh I got really lucky to work really early with two people that are like delightful humans but also like really Pros like
00:32:35
great set etiquette super nice people and I was like oh like this is you can just be like a normal human know what they're doing yeah you were like the crazy person with both of them and it's
00:32:45
great and if they can hold up their end and get their laughs cuz sometimes it's a thankless part sometimes if you're the
00:32:51
straight man but straight man's so important to make it all work and they're so good it's like yeah
00:32:57
there guess it's the straight man Parts but like they were both so funny that you're like well I don't know it's not
00:33:02
very straight but I get the I get the roles but I don't know I think it's kind of magic when you can do that but you're
00:33:09
still getting laughs I'm like it's that's a tight rope right I mean but it's such a those both were great I
00:33:15
remember is that ID theft you're talking about right and uh identity theft what was it called Identity Thief never said
00:33:22
it right I think it wound up Identity Thief I think every time I did press for it they're like hey great job um that's
00:33:29
not the name of the movie you keep I because at some point while we were filming it was just a weird constant
00:33:35
barage of like ID Thief id id thieves ID every it was so much constantly looking
00:33:42
at different names and by the time I got depressed I was just like I didn't yeah
00:33:48
but I said it wrong I think on every single thing they were like we'd love for you to get the name right I'm like
00:33:53
well there's certain titles David just did a special and his his special he did two years ago remember it was really hard even for you to remember the title I don't remember it even now is it
00:34:05
nothing personal nothing standup special on Netflix but the name I think it was called the first one was my fake problems and then the second one was okay not nothing nothing personal
00:34:19
because I made fun of people and so I call nothing personal but no one and plus who remembers the name you just
00:34:26
go personal nobody what is it and then I did another one Friday and this will Air
00:34:32
in six years and then the special will be three years over and then I'll be what's the name of it we don't know so I
00:34:38
didn't even have one at that point I didn't know I was wearing until the show shot at 7 and I had three things backstage at 7 and they're like pick one
00:34:45
we got to get you out there and I'm like this one's sort of slimming but and they were like what do you wouldn't why
00:34:50
wouldn't you do this a week and a half ago cuz I'm lazy and I'm a guy and I'm like this doesn't even fit me at all I
00:34:57
put on something I just bought and I go not my size and they're like can't you just throw it on once before we start
00:35:04
what this isn't your problem Melissa um yeah let's get back to our problem that's what we call a detour I'll I'll do your fittings um I'll get would love to be part of those fittings can you
00:35:15
just mark them for me and I'll take them in I'm just gonna do fittings for you for hours okay every standup who shows up to a special has not totally decided
00:35:27
on what they're going to wear according to this producer I talk well they all do that last second should I just nerves
00:35:34
it's it's the least important part that's the problem is that I'm like I'm worried about my stupid jokes and then they're like well those are all falling
00:35:40
flat so let's try to get them with the outfit but if you're out there and you're like God this shirt feels so weird is that distracting mph that one didn't he do
00:35:52
the one where he wor all like red leather or something and I don't remember because it was so long ago but I was like yeah he had a cool outfit on
00:35:59
that's for sure red leather jumpsuit with a little phallic chain on it he's also cool yeah so if it's me I can't try
00:36:07
too hard anything too far from J crew and they start to go I don't know I would I would line up
00:36:15
to see you in um a Le a red leather jumpsuit or two-piece just consider it a romper you've seen people that go here's my special look at my special outfit everyone's like I can't even think of
00:36:27
the jokes we're wondering why did you who okayed this this look cuz it's so be it's so not what you are you know so I just go I got to be able to move my arms because I do a lot of this well that
00:36:38
would be a good start that you can go hi folks well is yeah you're just like Hey Now do I lift my arms ever because if I don't this is
00:36:51
perfect I want to see the show I'll send you a copy I'll send you a copy you're going to get I know I get
00:36:58
it thank you okay this is like a game show pick a topic okay Ghostbusters hosting SNL five times the four sha
00:37:09
spicers oh god um you you have five seconds you gust Spicer spicers Ghostbusters okay Ghostbusters so what was the deal with Ghostbusters there you go it became
00:37:25
controversial because it was women doing Ghostbuster what what is that so ridiculous stupid where people were like you're ruining my childhood I'm like I from the sound of you I think you had a
00:37:36
pretty shitty childhood without us doing anything like if you're saying that like
00:37:42
30 years later because women are gonna like in the world of redus and all that I was just like I found it funny and like really stupid I was just like then don't go see it but ruining your
00:37:54
childhood like you seem pretty banged up already right maybe just be quiet and then skip it listen I love Ghostbusters the regular one but when I see four or
00:38:06
five funny people you go there's something funny here there's no way Melissa Chris whoever was in it I'm like
00:38:14
they're all funny something's funny there's no way it can't there's nothing there's no way you can put them all in a
00:38:20
room yeah I I think no it's a totally funny weird group and Paul Fe is like such a funny guy director I do think there was just like so many for some
00:38:31
reason because it was like oh this is a thing so instead of us just running off and like doing what we do there were a
00:38:38
lot of cooks in that kitchen and that just never is good for comedy it's just like everybody wanted a different thing so you're like why don't you just let funny people and Paul feig kind of do
00:38:51
their thing and it's it's been working okay you're like when the the less Cooks the better always works better and
00:38:57
they're not trying to please every quad uncomfortable especially when somebody who's super not funny is like here's
00:39:04
what's a better idea and you're like I'm telling you from the bottom of my heart it's not a better idea but
00:39:11
yeah there you go that's why you guys taking control and doing your own things you don't answer to anyone right with your movies pretty much or you do you have get all the time we we get we sure
00:39:24
we get notes you know thinkness Tammy Tammy did pretty well and so then we you know got to make more basically yeah I
00:39:32
mean but everybody always you know they want you to do even better and then you know as we were doing more like
00:39:38
streaming was coming around and you know comedies started being less in the movie theater at all and you know so like we
00:39:45
were trying to just you know basically the more or less just wanted to make a funny move bigger budget is bigger
00:39:52
problems bigger opinions yes agree totally and I think that yeah I think it's like and and we like getting notes because if somebody is confused or they're like hey this seems that's a
00:40:05
that's a good Bell to Ring to be like oh then how do we make it even better if we like this but it's confusing to somebody
00:40:12
I love to get that note because I'm like let's clear it up now and not have to try to reverse engineer it and post and
00:40:18
I love a test screening uh you know I know you guys have been through tons of them I'm sure but I like them just
00:40:23
because I like to make sure because sometimes you could have you know Maya Rudolph and Melissa McCarthy on
00:40:30
screen and I'm like well they're the funniest and that was the joke that all made us laugh but then for some reason it doesn't make an audience laugh so I
00:40:36
love the idea that then we can switch it out and make something that yeah is gonna make everybody laugh because
00:40:41
that's obviously the the goal it comes down to Clarity you don't want to belabor the clarity but if the audience
00:40:47
isn't quite sure what you're going for then they go quiet and so that's where a test screen and we go okay either we have to swap it out or do some something
00:40:54
expositional right before it or you know it's still complicated because there there's always a test screening where a
00:41:01
joke no one saw coming it's left or it's just a pause or it's just a a cutaway and you're like holy [ __ ] that was the biggest laugh I don't even know why and
00:41:09
your favorite jokes do okay and you're like this is why no one has it perfectly because you just don't know in the way
00:41:14
the edit or the cut or the you just said oh my God we five free laughs of something we never totally I know so
00:41:21
there's there's some laughs that we get where I'm like what I can't I can't I couldn't have told you on the day I
00:41:27
still don't understand it and then there's jokes that like I still am like it's one of my top five and we cut it
00:41:34
because it just didn't land but I was like I stand by the joke I'll take it out because like stand by my performance
00:41:41
it's funny how un Myer a whole audience will laugh at something you don't see coming and you're like they all saw
00:41:48
something I didn't even see it on the monitor they all saw something just now and they all agreed we laughing at this
00:41:53
one and you go am I in the business I don't even know totally it's so weird but it's it's the the fun of it but yeah yeah it when it works it's it's so
00:42:04
satisfying and you get a good cut and it's really flowing and working and getting laughs I mean it's such a high
00:42:09
because film making is really freaking hard getting all the trucks and the crew and how are you with the coffee at 5 yeah it was G to be fun today to do the dumbest joke you're wasting all this time like do anyone have a rubber
00:42:22
chicken and you're like waiting an hour going what and they're like it's just for I drop it in the scene they go
00:42:28
that's and you see the teamster guy goes this is what we're [ __ ] wasting time with you like it might be onep burrito
00:42:33
if you go now you could get a breakfast burrito at the at the truck if you go now they're going to shut down breakfast
00:42:39
in a second the main the main quest for the day I gotta my hands on a bur oh I can't
00:42:46
tell you how many times I've been waiting for something and then we do it and the crew just looks at you so pissed because they're like we waited for that
00:42:52
which is like such pressure because you're still like and then you can tell they're just like J I don't know who put
00:42:58
these [ __ ] in charge I did a thing with Paul Fe in spy where I don't know why I found it
00:43:07
the funniest thing that she I would I would weirdly take my foot out of my shoe and I would just hold because I had
00:43:14
like nylon Peds on you know those little like half noow socks and I just kept weirdly like putting it in camera for Paul and then we just got on a weird laughing Jag and then underne
00:43:27
this is so stupid by the way did not make the movie we could not stop laughing because I was like I think her
00:43:34
feet are cramping and so we shot for like eight minutes my feet just in these weird little stockings like kind of seizing up and having and having arches
00:43:45
and I was like rubbing them and literally finally one of the cameramen that I really loved he goes F [ __ ]
00:43:52
sake how long are we gonna shoot this and you know Paul and I Paul and I were laughing so hard we were crying and then everybody else was just like yeah and it didn't foot acting can we stop with the
00:44:05
foot acting please so I was like you go we're out of film and you go okay and then no one
00:44:11
goes we can't run out of film there's no film it's but that's what they used to say the old movies running out of film
00:44:16
and I go oh they hurry up your ad living basically fly in the gate remember flying the gate this go in theate oh my God in theate yeah best
00:44:28
my first movie we didn't have a playback I mean it sounds stupid it's not stupid obviously no movies did but first movie
00:44:36
Jerry Lewis invented the playback how where are we going here it was Abell and Spades go to Mars go to Mars or go to Nordstrom's yeah they travel to a bad
00:44:50
script and so uh anyway I told Dan and I had a crew guyo he's just sitting next to me I'm waiting for my mark to go and he's goes I don't know who read this script but some of these jokes are
00:45:02
clanking and I'm like first of all I read I wrote it with somebody and I was like do you know I'm in it I'm about to walk in I've been here for six weeks
00:45:12
just like from me to you two professionals I think I can throw in my opinion I'm like you cannot you can't do
00:45:19
it before they say action got too familiar I also love the use of the word clanking Clank clanker is like very
00:45:29
specifically he knows comedy so well he goes I'll give you the lingo version Clank I told you not to hire my
00:45:37
cousin they like they go I'm not one of those ass kissers and yes man I'm like no you are you're a crew guy don't I
00:45:43
don't know you you can be a yes man just for just for this set you have so much going on about to walk in Jesus yeah and the rap party you can tell me some stinkers in that one huh even then don't
00:45:56
say it actually I know hey you had fun didn't you it was fun you looks like you're having fun look like you're having fun out there how how how do you think it's
00:46:08
going do you think it's going okay what do you think that's also loaded question
00:46:14
think they're going to pull the plug on this one do I think they're going to pull the plug while we're shooting I
00:46:19
don't think so oh my god oh I can't even tell my story those Studios got money to burn
00:46:26
save it for David for the [Music] book so then um should we do an SNL thing I mean I I thought I mean the five
00:46:38
host and also the Sean Spicer thing was such a poppy um one you talked to that because
00:46:44
it was one of those things that lined up and it just sort of went I don't know so you get a call from Lauren
00:46:51
I yes and who I love of hello uh but he called and Kent sublet who we also was a good friend from ground Lings I was in
00:47:03
New York shooting can you ever forgive me so I did that during the week and then I would do SNL on the weekends but
00:47:10
when he first called I was like wait what you want me to do Spicer I was like I don't do Impressions I don't I was
00:47:16
like and how am I gonna you know how am I gonna look like Spicer and what I don't understand and he goes oh no the
00:47:23
special effect said it's not going to be very hard for you and I was like okay first of all just a real kick of
00:47:30
the dick but uh so I went in it really was like we we tried it out and he's also like amazing he's been there forever you as you guys know and he so fast but then when I got into it I
00:47:44
just was freaked out that I it was like the closest I'd ever looked to my dad when I was like oh my God it turned
00:47:51
Mike McCarthy it was a funny look like he was like no thank you no yeah yeah this is not a turn on I gotta be honest with you this wasn't that early on when they were using like
00:48:06
they're using Dana now like they use someone that was you know that's a friend of the show to come on when you weren't hosting right he just yeah no I
00:48:14
wasn't hosting I just when it was just supposed to be oneand done and then he just it was
00:48:20
constantly saying crazy stuff and I I remember I'd been working and I hadn't really read the paper or paid attention
00:48:26
to it that week and they sent the one where he was hiding in the bushes and like where all the reporters were just
00:48:33
looking at him but he was like you know I'm invisible like a child and I remember calling him and I was like I
00:48:39
just think it's funnier when we use his exact words and don't make anything up like I can act differently but it's
00:48:45
better when we use like actually use factual things and Kent was like yeah that happened it all happened he's and I had watched the news that week they made
00:48:56
it up I thought even for him they had made up something crazy and like still 100% true I was like holy [ __ ] well you
00:49:04
um so people who are going what are they talking about Sean Spicer was a press secretary under Trump and he was very
00:49:09
animated and aggressive with the press and then they brought you into do it I I remember loving it I don't remember when
00:49:17
did you start steering the podium you at some point Didn't you move the podium was that the I did I kept I really was like oh God we could put this on a what are those
00:49:29
things called I was like if you could ever make yeah or whatever that little like the like Mall cops are on I was
00:49:36
like can you ever put a Podium on that and it's such a crazy crew that you could say anything and they're like yeah
00:49:42
I can have it in like 14 minutes and then the next week when I came in it was there and literally they were waiting for me and they're like we have something to show you and I was like I
00:49:52
was like and then when I got when we got to go out and drive around New York literally was like if I stopped tomorrow
00:49:59
I'd be okay with it an immediate laugh just stepping up and starting it everyone's like oh my God it it just one
00:50:06
of those things that is just funny I don't it's so stupid it's so funny yeah and he's taking it kind of seriously the character you know just and yeah it's
00:50:17
just so funny it was good to poke fun at that I was like to poke that bear was was really fun yes and you got so
00:50:24
aggressive and loud with it you know you had to kind of top him but he was really aggressive but it was just fun thing to
00:50:32
play right that energy of you know so fun because you like it's normally like you just can't it's too it's going to be
00:50:38
too much but he was too much so you're like I guess there's no limit really because you and you weren't trying to
00:50:44
sound like him or anything just doing your I was just trying to be super angry and really like knee-jerk and and yeah
00:50:52
and just kind of do and just attack people for distraction yeah that's just a fun character to play I think I see
00:51:00
maybe a movie maybe kind of live streaming called Spicer returns no I don't want him to return okay uh so we went over we saw
00:51:13
you at the 40th saw one of the yeah yeah do you remember what what how you were dressed when I met you I do because I got super I think when I first met both
00:51:24
of you I had Chris's jacket on yeah I think we were wondering like is that the real jacket I was dressed um as his like
00:51:31
down by the river guy that I news you smashed into the and I because they like took it in for me and I remember because
00:51:38
it that was really his jacket and I got pretty choked up because that was like someone I uh yeah of course I waited on him when I worked at Starbucks once and I was like so shaky that I was like just
00:51:50
don't spill it on him he seems so nice and uh and to do that it was the most nervous I've I think I've ever been in
00:51:58
any performance and right before I went in my and I've never had this happen my legs were actually like doing this and I
00:52:05
was like rocking back and forth and the sweet stage manager because i' I'd been there a bunch of times he's like honey are you okay and I was like I don't know what's I'm GNA be fine and then Ben had
00:52:18
said don't pull back cuz he wouldn't have so get in there and [ __ ] burn like burn it down cuz that's what he
00:52:25
would have done and that's like the last thing I thought of and I was like I just was so nervous to do someone that I
00:52:31
literally watched I have like a drawing of him I it's like I just I I adored his
00:52:37
humor and how vulnerable he was for sure yeah we know now he's a singularity and
00:52:43
uh the vulnerability and then the power together and the sweetness just a magic uh human one of D very close friends and I know and well you two were just you
00:52:55
guys were a perfect movie it's a perfect movie and you two together you could see how much you loved each other and then it was still so funny it's like it's just did
00:53:06
you two have a lot of creative freedom on that one did that was that like you just sort of went away somewhere or were there a lot of people telling you what
00:53:12
made you what made me think of it was when you're talking about going from bridesmaid to something else that was
00:53:17
one where it was low expectations lower budget throw Farland spade out there and let's see what happens and no one really
00:53:24
was visiting the set and no one was then so you go can we try this they're like okay and Pete seagull was director and
00:53:29
he was like let's try it and and then the next one black sheep they go oh we got something here even though it wasn't like a huge hundred million movie but then they all come in and a director
00:53:41
comes in they're like we know how to do this and then millions of notes and and cutting scenes and and then it just got
00:53:48
it just got harder and then the bigger the budget same thing you know it just gets you don't get that bridesmaides is
00:53:54
almost your freebie you know and then and then after that everyone's like wait she's she's really good now we gota
00:54:00
here's what we should do with her and then you go oh no no no this isn't let if you could just pick live or die with
00:54:06
how you do it is is is what the goal and if you two get to make stuff it's great
00:54:12
and then when you when you get so many you see movies that get you know all the edges cut off because they're getting
00:54:18
bigger budgets and uh you can see the big comedies no one's really laughing they're like that'll work that'll work
00:54:24
and then you go well but but after the take no one laughs it's like you know what I mean you can just tell that like
00:54:30
sign someone says oh that'll they throw in lines and you go I don't know but you
00:54:35
can tell during it sometimes you go I don't know if this is but I'm not in those big big budgets but you can see the big comedies they just we're a four
00:54:42
quadrant worldwide movie and you go so we got to make sure no one really laughs we we need every a smile and no one to laugh Smiles or like it's and I'm like I
00:54:57
I would rather I would rather take harder swings and get real laughs than be like they're clever well if you're on
00:55:03
stage you two have been on stage a ton and like if you're if the whole audience is smiling you're bombing or I feel like
00:55:11
they have to be laughing you know we got to hear something a hard part comedy drama you don't have to hear anything you know you can do a whole movie and go yeah oh it was good okay but comedy if
00:55:23
you don't hear something the first minute you're like uh oh when you made that dramatic turn you know that was you
00:55:29
know can you forgive me I a completely different Melissa was that like just exciting just to not have to be funny for a change you know and be real I mean
00:55:42
it's like you I don't know I prepared the same way because I still thought there was like funny stuff about her but
00:55:48
yeah it is like if you're supposed to walk across the room and I'd walk across the room I was like yeah I guess you
00:55:54
mean I'm not g to do alts I'm not gonna be like I let me let me do this limp yeah somebody comes up hey you
00:56:00
could do that could you do just right at the end can you kind of Spike the lens a tiny bit and Link you know you just walk
00:56:06
yeah I'm but I love doing it because I love I also love that character I was just like man she was it was just such a
00:56:13
crazy story and I didn't know why I didn't know who she was I like felt like I should have but it was re really
00:56:19
really fun to do just get to kind of go in a different direction as you went along did you kind of get a vibe from
00:56:25
everybody that you could get nominated I guess for best actress right it was best
00:56:30
actress in Emotion picture um yeah you got an Oscar nomination for bridesmaids but did you have a sense of that I'm really in the pocket something's happening here because that's really hard to get I mean especially for a
00:56:44
little you know it's like I I love that movie I love Mari heler uh that directed
00:56:49
it but I don't I mean I I don't think you ever I mean I don't ever I'm like though I think this will get I don't I
00:56:56
just don't think that way I was just glad I mean I was really happy with it do you remember who won the Oscar that
00:57:03
night I do okay Ben no the the oh yeah first time you lost the first time you lost she brings this up daily it was
00:57:16
hard because for bridesmaids Octavia Spencer who is one of our best friends won SOC mixed emotions like you want her
00:57:23
to win but I'm disappointed doesn't win and uh the second one Olivia Coleman that's for the favorite and she was amazing and you're like she seems like the best lady and so yeah she's awesome
00:57:34
so you're like uh just getting you know getting there was already like a fever dream so I was like was she in a Kevin
00:57:40
Heart movie or something what happened was she in a comedy the favorite is a very quirky
00:57:45
film the favorite she does some off label stuff I mean she's like you know but um it's just you know it's it's a promotion for the entertainment industry that's all you know it's like but to get
00:57:58
an Oscar nomination for bridesmaids when when comedies you know obviously get overlooked a lot and then to pop out with that that's a huge deal it was B like I I mean I remember
00:58:11
we were because our kids were pretty little and you were up watching it which is also rare that because that's not
00:58:18
something you usually watch gotten up with one of the kids I think so and I walked in and I was like what are you watching like because
00:58:23
he's usually not doing that and we're watching the nominations and then it I don't know where where my brain went but I think they said my name and then they went on and said octav octavus Spencer
00:58:36
and I was like I was like oh my God Octavia just got nominated for an Oscar and I couldn't believe it and he's like did you hear what was right before that and I was like Octavia just got
00:58:47
nominated for an Oscar and he's like did you hear your name and I was like what like it didn't process and mean we're
00:58:54
like in pajamas and like tired cuz our kids are little but it is it is not usual for a comedy like that to get an Oscar nomination you might get other types of awards that have comedy
00:59:05
categories but yeah that's pretty cool and it kind of always breaks my heart not because I what but like I just think
00:59:13
man I think comedy are I mean I'm sure you guys feel even though Stand Up's doing really well now but it's like
00:59:19
everybody that says something to me they're like we need you to keep making comedies but then there's some kind of narrative that like comedies don't work
00:59:26
anymore I'm like that's just not true right that is out there right you when you pitch movies to to streamers they're
00:59:33
like we'll get back to you econom I mean there's just also a recession in the industry as well but can all rated
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comedies and they're like ah I just I think right now is not the time for this one and you go so there's no time I mean
00:59:45
it's not getting better like we're not getting less hopefully it swings back where you go just do whatever say
00:59:51
whatever you want be nice I think it has to because I think people miss it and I think yeah I think there's just a
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stronghold on it and I do think it's going to swing back the other way because like you just everybody always needs comedies it's like not just
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because we do it I think it's what people want yeah totally that's what I absolutely David was in one of the uh
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two years ago the the wrong Miss which was a big broad funny comedy for uh Happy Madison so there's still a huge audience people want to laugh and also you were um in um Seinfeld cereal you
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were very funny in that that was a funny frosted yeah crazy yeah crazy movie you
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know that was what was it like being directed yeah that many cameos I just haven't seen that many cameos and that
01:00:41
many like yeah comedy people in one room you're like you can't do this anymore this is like an anomaly so that was kind
01:00:46
of amazing like everywhere you looked it's like it's a mad mad mad world or something here's another you know um else for these two lovely people we've
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done everything else I mean I've got answers on the relationship I've got answers on working together all the
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answers he was digging for has Ben ever giving you a direction on a set you went
01:01:10
honey I got this have you ever said that no okay no I don't think he's smart and no no God maybe I might have old nope just
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to kind of egg on more you know like oh no oh God you know or whatever and because I sort of want them to going and
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it's so horrible it's sweet the thing I'm gonna take away from this podcast that I literally got chills from is when
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Ben said to you go in there and burn it down because that's what he would have done that gives I I get I tear up easily
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but that kind of got me I don't know why it's just like such a great thing to say to you
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and it also represents Chris I don't know something good advice yeah that's what for actually when we did Tammy our
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our start gift he had this really beautiful I thought it was a black and white photo but someone it's the the
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thinnest pencil drawing that it looks like a black and white photo of him oh that's right yeah it's in my it's in my
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office but that was to be like you know go really go for it and and like I don't know so I still I still have it and it's really special to me so yeah yeah that is that is awesome so
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anyway this has been really interesting and really fun guys glad to get to know you as a
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couple and uh keep going making movies and all all all good wishes for the you guys too yeah good to see you it's great to see you guys all right have a good day bye bye bye bye this has been a
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Carvey and David Spade Jenna Weiss Burman of Odyssey and Heather Santoro the show's lead producer is Greg
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Holtzman