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Our guest is a good friend of yours. >> Yes. John Phineas Corbett. [laughter] Uh
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>> John Zachariah Corbett. >> Yes. He's a really good friend. Uh he this podcast was very interesting
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because um I had met with him before just to kind of get the lay of the land and I I would hear little bits of
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stories. I go save it, save it, [laughter] save it. Because his his journey, if you haven't heard this one,
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is really really interesting. uh just a a tease. It's like he was once a hairdresser, you know.
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>> Yeah. >> And and it he interacts with John Loveville. Anyway, so this this was a
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very interesting one. And then he makes kind of a surprise analysis. Yeah. >> At the end. So I would if you haven't
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heard it, definitely listen to this one. >> Yeah. I love it. I didn't know him. Uh I
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just knew him in passing and uh he was as advertised. You told me he had a lot of interesting things to say and he did
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and he was really fun. very light-hearted, a lot of laughs, goodlooking, which I always great at.
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>> He's tall and good-looking. That's that's that's for sure. [laughter] >> Uh I hid my jealousy for most of it. And
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uh >> yeah. >> Anyway, here he is. John Corbett. John Corbett. >> H What were you saying? All I saw was
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John being really animated. I click in and he goes, "And so in the end, I GOT THE GIRL."
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>> I always get the girl in the end. You know that. Uh, >> I know. First time I met you, you just
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said I always played the boyfriend. So, >> I I always chase the girl around the kitchen for 90 minutes and get her in
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the end in any movie. >> John and I have something in common. We're both the perfect boyfriend.
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>> Yeah, we are. >> You guys Yeah, you guys played a lot of boyfriends. >> We played a lot. Yeah. John, uh, we'll
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talk about you for the rest of this, but I have to say in all my movies and TV shows, I have never I've only
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been married once. I've only been this guy just like flirting with girls, and it's just like the one part. It just
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shows how limited I am in acting. But other than that, I guess I could do other stuff. They just have never wanted
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to. >> Uh, you can act. I mean, >> who? Who? David. David can act, but you but you're like, damn, you're
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>> Listen, David's a [ __ ] great actor. >> There you go. Thank you, John. >> Yeah. No, I'm serious, man. Here's the
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thing. I was thinking about you. Uh, I was thinking about both you guys because, you know, we're going to do
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this thing. So, I start thinking about what's interesting in my life and, you know, it's not just about me this thing.
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And uh I've I've listened to a lot of your podcasts, so I love it when you guys talk about yourselves, but I I mean
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I was watching I was watching you um we just for fun the other night watch Tommy Boy again
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because I hadn't seen it since it was in the theaters and I've never seen the BO.
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Right. So we watched it and >> man, you know what you reminded me of in that David is um one of my favorite
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movies is Moneyball, right? You guys see Money Bar? >> Ah yeah. >> Uh love it. >> Jonah Hill.
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>> Soon. So yeah, Jonah Hill. Uh very funny guy also. But did uh I could also so easily
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have seen you playing a role like that in in Moneyball. Have people come to you for roles like that? Like not just a big
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broad comedy? >> No. I was I was sort of saying that because I was joking that in movies I'm
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always single and I don't know why but once it started it was every TV show, every sitcom, every movie and I've only
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been married once in a movie and they're like what if you're actually married to
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a girl? Would anyone believe or understand that? And so uh that was sort of my funny thing. But I do I do have a
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movie that we're doing in about a month where I sort of have a slightly different part. So [laughter] that's
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that's rare. But uh I'm not here to talk about that. I'm just here to say you are
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known as like this perfect cool guy and every girl I know that I mention, you know, that's sort of your rap is like,
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"Oh my god, you fall in love with that guy so easily." So, we don't have to only talk about that, but that is a nice
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rap to have, >> right? And just to complete John's thought about you, David, is I think
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that your attitude and your uh rhythm uh in a comedy and then put that in like I
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no one will know this except old people. A movie like Fail Safe where he's advising the president. In other words,
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your attitude in a serious scenario played very real would be fun. I said I said that to you years ago. Now
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>> I would like that. >> Now let me I'm going to control the interview today. So now let me go to
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John. [laughter] >> Please do. I gave I gave David a compliment. >> I love it. Thank you, Dana.
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>> It is uh it's rare that he gets You know, the funny thing I noticed about about the podcast is when sometimes
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David chimes in with something really funny when you guys are talking to somebody on a little bit of a roll and
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David chimes in with something really funny, [laughter] but David just rolls right over it. But then I can hear I can
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hear David chuckling to the funny thing in the background. That always kind of makes [laughter] me laugh.
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Well, basically I'm interrupting the flow. So, I just throw it in like that then and the flow keeps going and then I
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go like this. Not bad. >> It's really good. >> I like that one. >> I get into interview mode, you know. I
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become like Mike Waller from 60 Minutes or something. But, uh, yeah, David in the early days was just coming on to
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this podcast. And so, our producer used to count his yawns. Remember that? [laughter]
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And then the podcast started, everyone goes, "Hey, this is a big podcast." So then David doubled down and now we're
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here. >> Yeah, >> that's the reason that's the reason David's wondering why I'm here. Uh uh
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like what the [ __ ] is this guy doing on this thing? Because >> No, we're not. But go ahead.
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>> Not many people know this, but we are neighbors. Dana and I are neighbors up here in in Paso Roos. And um [laughter]
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we for a year now, every time I see Nana anywhere, I say, "When are you gonna get
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me on that podcast?" I love that podcast. I gotta get on it. And he's always uh he's always saying, "Yes,
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we'll get you on. We'll get you on someday." And finally, he just had enough. And he said, "Okay, you can come
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on." So that's why I'm I'm here. Well, it'll be about an hour and then you'll never have to deal with me again, Dana.
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>> Well, the idea is is that everyone we mentioned, everyone knows you. Like you've done a lot of stuff. I mean, I
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don't know where to start, but I do I do know a few little things and you can share these because I thought it was
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funny that you come out of high school and the phrase was you work as a boiler maker and that leads you to acting.
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Could you just tell that we'll start with that for now for fun? >> Yeah. Yeah. I left uh West Virginia
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right out of high school, I guess around 79 and uh came to California to meet my
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dad who I didn't know because they split up when I was two. We lived in California actually till I was two and
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then my mom and I went back and uh >> Wait a minute. So you met your dad like at 19.
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>> Yeah. From the time I was two till uh till uh I graduated high school. I saw him two times
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>> um just because he was always working and he had another family out here and he came for two weekends. I think once
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when I was seven and >> he's he's busy. It's a theme on this podcast. David has his story. It's most
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of our guests have an absentee dad. I don't know why. >> I just say it's it's I would love to
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have had an absentee dad, but that's another story. >> The other thing is daddy stays.
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Sometimes that can be rough. But anyway, so you meet your dad. You're in LA, West
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Virginia. Then what happens? >> Well, to your point, uh, man, yeah, I'm so happy. Daddy and I became drinking
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buddies when I showed up at his door at 18. But had daddy stayed, man, daddy was
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a tough I saw what the other kid was like that he raised. Daddy was a toughy, right? So sometimes that's better that
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daddy [laughter] takes a hike. >> Dana had a toughy, too. I had a drinker. So I was the same thing when I booked up
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with them. We started drinking. So that's a good common denominator. Less pressure for them to be the dad. Once
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you turn 18, there's no child support. There's no there's not as much stress for them. So that's when my dad softened
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a bit and started giving me his phone number and saying, "You can call me now instead of me calling you."
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>> Yeah. Is he still around? >> You know what I mean? Uh, no. And now I have to hang up and
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cry. [laughter] Uh, no. He uh knew >> something was coming. >> No, he uh he was he was great once we
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figured it out. But you know, I'm I was sort of in the same boat, so I relate. Keep going. I kind of relate to what
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you're saying. >> Yeah. So, my dad was a was a also a big drinker, but a smart guy. He was a a
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nuclear welder. He helped build Sanopre Power Plant and he was a watch maker and
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really interesting guy. Um, and he let me live with him and he uh, you know, I just showed up at his door uh because I
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came on a cross-country trip with some with some friends. >> Well, yeah. >> Yeah.
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>> Did he look like you? Was he Did you kind of Oh, it's me. Did he Was he 6'5 and was he just
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>> We're the same It was crazy. We're the same uh size, same height and and weight. And uh
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>> yeah, it was really weird. But he but I he said, "What do you want to do?" Because I wasn't going to go to college.
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And he said, "You want to be a boiler maker?" For people who don't know what that is, it's, you know, it's like
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[laughter] >> it's not the top 10 things I was thinking, but >> it's not the top
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>> it was my third choice. >> Go ahead. >> It's crazy. It's, you know, there you're
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welders, iron ship builders, uh, steam boiler makers, and so I got in that union and, uh, that's what I did for
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about four four years. >> Is it like a lot of welding with the big hat on, you know, with [laughter]
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>> it's it's mostly all that. >> Well, the thing the helmet You got to wear that,
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>> Dana. One of us hasn't been boiling, mate. >> Look at these hands. Look at these
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hands. He's the [ __ ] little girl. >> Softest [ __ ] hands I've ever seen. >> You know what's You know what's
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bothering me? The little baby. >> I got little girl hands. Soft little little [ __ ] soft fluffs. I was I
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watched Raian ball last year. But now you're a a welder boiler maker. You're in a shop. Have you got a really hard
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ass foreman [ __ ] with you? >> Yeah. >> Come on you guys. >> Everyone. >> Forbid. Quit gold bricking. You got
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Yeah. Every one of them has the has the guy from Full Metal Jacket [ __ ] telling you. Let's go. Let's go. Let's
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[laughter] go. Um >> Full Metal Jacket. I love it. >> It's Full Metal Jacket. Yeah. We're
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working uh it's it's 10 hours a day, six days a week, so we're cranking out 60 hours a week. And uh yeah, it's just,
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you know, it's a it's a tough tough life. I mean, guys are [ __ ] losing fingers and hands and equipment and, you
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know, it's like get a new guy and it's like football when a quarterback goes down. I was like, "You ever notice that
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the coach barely even looks? He's like, "Next guy, get in there." You know? >> Yeah.
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>> Get in there, Jennings. >> When do you break When do you break it to the Boiler Maker squad that you got
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to leave early because you have a cold reading class. [laughter] >> But but you wand you wandered off.
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>> You're like, "Guys, I saw Hamlet last night." And they're like, "Huh?" It's like a movie. You're like, "I think
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that's my calling." They're like, "Get the [ __ ] out of here." That's [ __ ] >> That's funny.
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>> Yeah. >> Uh, >> so tell me about you wa you wandered off the job site. I think
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>> I got hurt. I actually got hurt. I got hurt. I hurt my back and uh and I couldn't do that heavy work anymore. I
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kept sort of walking with a cane, right? And I'm about I don't know 23. And my dad my dad said, "Go to college." I was
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living down in Belfare and he said, "Go to Cerritos College." That's where he learned to weld.
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>> He's the best brainstormer we got. >> So he wants you to go back to welding school. You got a bat back in a can, go
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to Harvard. >> He doesn't want me to go to welding school. That's where he learned to weld.
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He goes, "Just go to school, [ __ ] Finish your [ __ ] education, you know." And uh that's where the real, you
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know, you don't want to do this your whole life anyway. But that that little junior college is where I discovered
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acting. I met some actors who invited me to a improv class and uh man, as soon as
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I walked in there, you know, I didn't act in high school or anything like that. Soon as I walked in there, I just
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said, "Fuck it. this is for me, you know, because I always made my buddies laugh and things like that. Uh, and I
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signed up for all the acting classes and I swear to God, uh, two months later, uh, I'm in hair. They did a great, you
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know, production of hair. [laughter] Give me a head with >> long beautiful hair.
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>> You got it down. [laughter] >> Perfect. You guys are Can you guys harmonize? Hair shiny waxing. Yeah.
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>> Everyone's got a bush. [laughter] Is that one of the lines? I didn't see that.
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>> That's one of the lines that they did on Broadway. [laughter] >> Why does it sound like Nathan Lane or
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something? I don't know. I'm gonna sing a song. All right. Go ahead. So, you're doing hair at a junior college. You got
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no other prospect. But you're loving it. >> Oh, yeah. I'm doing hair. I did actually
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go to hair school, but I wasn't doing hair at a junior. >> Oh, we'll get to your your that in a
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second. That's crazy. >> Uh what happens? What happens? I do it um for about a year. Check it out. I
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sign up for extra work, right? So, I start doing extra work. I'm on [ __ ] chips. I'm on Kagney and Lacy. Sweet.
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It's sweet. >> Did you guys Did you ever do extra work? >> I don't think so. No,
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>> because we were doing standup, you know. >> Okay, so and here's the great thing
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about extra work. I mean, how crazy is this? I even did extra work on square pegs with Sarah Jessica Parker uh in I
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think 8 [ __ ] four or five stuff like that, right? Yeah. And so here's the great thing about extra work.
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>> If you show up and just shut the [ __ ] up and mind your business and [laughter]
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open your eyes, >> you can learn paid. >> You get paid 35 bucks a day. I remember
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the extra pay. You can learn a lot. you can learn what this guy's doing holding this microphone and you know what a key
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grip is and uh that's what I did. I used that as I mean I I knew what everybody did by
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the time I I got my first you know one line on a on a movie. So it was >> but you know the re the real stuff.
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Sorry to interrupt you but it made me think that's really how you learn just how an actual set works not acting class
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where you go oh they do a few takes that guy comes over and tells they change their delivery. Okay, that seemed to
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work better. So, you realize, oh, this is how fast it works. This is how people get talked to. This is the hierarchy.
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And then when you get on a set, you're not totally blindsided like we all were >> or intimidated by that environment, you
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know, >> oh my god, after like two years of extra work, you know, and still hadn't really
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uh gotten, you know, here's the great thing, too, about we all have this feeling, right? When you're an extra,
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you just know somebody's going to see your potential and see the [ __ ] the star. That [laughter] guy is a star,
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man. It's going to happen. And it just obvious, you know, it never does, right? But you but but by the end of like two
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years of doing extra work, man. You could put me in a scene with Robert Dairo even though I'd never been on
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camera except as an extra. And I had just had so much confidence of being on the set. You're right, David. That's it
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gives you so much confidence. >> Well, it's kind of like it's it's magic in a way. And then if you're watching
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actors and you go, "Oh, they're just going to they're just talking and that they're just repeat." I mean, I I did a
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movie with Bert Lancaster and Kirk Douglas. I was so [ __ ] scared. And then we're doing a scene and it's like,
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I'm telling you, we'll rub the train. He just said it like that. Then he said it
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like that 10 more times. And then Kirk Douglas, I think we got to rub the train. So I was like, this is Kirk Doug
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and Bert Lancaster. I mean, that's it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But if you're reading a script
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along, Dana, like if you I've done this where uh I had two lines and something. So I'm just I'm just sort of reading the
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script watching from the side and the way they do it compared to how it is on the where I read it in my head. I go,
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"Oh, they're putting a little spin on that. Oh, they're Oh, that's not how I pictured that line. Oh, they went down
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on that." And that's kind of little things you pick up. You go, "Oh, like you do in acting class. You learn stuff
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you don't even think you would learn and you go, "Oh, that that helped me." >> But check this out, though. Here's the
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thing. When did you find this with Kirk Douglas in uh Lancaster? >> B Lancaster.
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>> Bert Lancaster. When you get on the set, you know, if you've David, even if you've had a month's worth of acting
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classes, right, you can now do a monologue, you can do a [ __ ] scene, when you get on set and you see that
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>> these guys can't even say two [ __ ] lines without [ __ ] it [laughter] up. Like,
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>> yeah, >> I just worked in steel factory 60 hours a week. That's hard work. These guys
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can't even string two lines together. And when you see, >> you know, I mean, it's just that's just
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the way it is. I'm still >> the laziness. The blatant laziness. >> If you can act, this is for kids
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listening. If you can act for 20 seconds, >> that's it. >> You can you can own Hollywood.
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>> Yeah. >> All you need is 20 seconds. Cut. >> And it doesn't hurt your back usually.
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So you're like, why did I Why was I doing that other [ __ ] >> Yeah. It's a 20 second increment kind of
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deal. Um, so would you ask me what? So my teacher came to me and she said, her name was
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Georgia. Well, and she said, "Look, I [ __ ] I think you could." [laughter] And you're like, "And that was the
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beginning of every girl hitting on me for the rest of my life." >> Yeah. [laughter]
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>> Well, we'll get to the ladies later, but he's happily married. >> Yes, I know. I love Bo. Yeah,
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>> she says B's the best. She says uh she says she says uh um you gotta I think you could do this but you gota you know
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I'm living 30 miles south of Hollywood and I've been there four years been that Hollywood twice. Once to walk around and
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look at the stars on Hollywood Boulevard boulevard and another time to see um to
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see a taping of Family Feud with Richard Dawson. Right. That's my home. >> Oh wow.
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>> Yeah. It might as well be 300 miles away when you live down Long Beach. You just
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never go. You know what are you gonna do? go to Shaky's Pizza Parlor. I mean, there's [ __ ] there's nothing there.
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[laughter] And uh she said, "You got" So, you know, I had a nice I mean, I was making 20
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bucks an hour in 1980 working that steel factory. I had a nice little condo. Uh >> uh she she says, "You gota you got to
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move up there and you got to take acting classes because time's ticking. You know, you should have started this at
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18." And I did it. I [ __ ] moved to Westwood. >> It's scary, but that's probably the best
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advice. Sam, >> if if I she didn't give me that advice that we wouldn't be talking right now.
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It just would have never happened. I would have been too afraid to to make a big move like that. But I moved to
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Westwood and moved in with there was five of us, me and four 18-year-olds in a two-bedroom apartment. Uh they were
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all going to UCLA and I was in the bedroom with three guys. I enrolled in hair school
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>> um down hair school. >> You enrolled in hair school? Even though you're thinking of being an actor.
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>> I like he throws it in like it's the most normal move. That's probably his dad call.
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>> Oh yeah. >> Go to hair school. [laughter] >> We all try to get a I started making
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handmade gloves before [laughter] I auditioned for SNL. I had to have something to fall back on. So you're
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confident, but you go to hair school just in case it doesn't work out. >> Here's what happens. So because of the
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accident I, you know, I sued the company and I got a nice sack of cash, right? Okay. More than a h 100,000 or less.
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[laughter] >> Uh it was about it was about a h 100,000 of which I got about $33,000.
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Right. >> Okay. >> They get some and everybody gets a little and I got that. But you know, my
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rent is at this place is $300 a month, you know, with the guys. So I'm doing all right.
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>> But the girlfriend that I had at the time was a hairdresser who made down in Long Beach. She made a good living at
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it, right? So, I know I'm not going to be on a TV show anytime soon. And I think hm I like what she does. It's kind
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of creative. Uh I love shampoo and uh in and I think that >> the movie shampoo >> the movie shampoo.
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>> Yeah. >> In my mind great. >> I can cut hair to all the I knew one thing's going to happen.
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>> There was money in people in show businesses pockets and I was going to [ __ ] take some of it out one way or
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another. I was either gonna be an actor [laughter] or I was gonna be a hairdresser on movie
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sets. You know, I'm getting some of that cash that they have >> because now >> Oh, that's looking good, man.
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>> Oh, no. John, I just took my hat off because I was thought it was rude. I'm wearing a hat.
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>> No, I like it. I like I like the I like the [ __ ] height. >> Me and Dana have the interchangeable
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hair. So, >> we got a lot of heights. There's nobody you've ever had on this podcast, by the
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way, out of 150 of them, that knows hair more than I do. You both >> You [ __ ] nail it. I love it.
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>> You both have great hair. >> Uh do you Okay, so you then you become a professional and you're you're you're
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working in a salon and you're you're kind of like and you're you're young strapping young man, 6' five. So you're
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a little bit like Warren Batty in shampoo at that point. That's right. There's nothing more seductive than
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cutting a woman's hair. >> And you're straight and and that's so rare. So these girls are all coming in
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and talking. You're just meeting girl. I mean that's like that's all you do all day.
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>> That is not correct. I am >> I am working. I'm working. You guys know where that little restaurant by the
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Beverly Center is called Jans? >> It's right next kind of a casual >> Yeah. Yeah.
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>> Like a little diner, right? So we're sharing the hair school. We're sharing the parking lot with Jans. It's like I
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don't know Beverly and Lassiaga. So I'm right in the Jewish area of of Beverly Hills. So every not hot chicky, but
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every client I have is a little old Jewish lady who's coming in for a $3 set, right? And I'm going to get I'm
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going to get a dime and maybe a a quarter for a tip. Right. So I the whole time I'm there,
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>> I'm working on 60 year old ladies. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. hair. >> We we we we were off by a little bit,
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John. >> I was picturing like the Instagram. I mean, the money that goes into it now
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with everyone around town like there's so much money being spent on hair and coloring and all that stuff. So, yeah,
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>> there was a guy at this particular time named Joseph Franco. You ever heard of
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this guy? >> Oh, yeah. >> Very famous. Mickey Works, his best friend. This is 1985. And uh he's
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getting 35 bucks a haircut back then. And nobody could believe he was making getting that paid that much for a
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haircut. >> Crazy. >> Wow. >> Yeah. I think I think that's on Canon. Maybe that maybe that's
00:22:47
>> it's still there. It's still there. Yeah. >> You might laugh at this. When I first
00:22:52
got a little extra money, I would have someone come to my house. This is me in the 80s. Little SNL money. And it was
00:22:58
like $400. >> What? >> I didn't even I maybe I don't know what I was thinking. >> Bill Clinton, remember he got a his
00:23:05
haircut on the Air Force One >> because it's $400. The guy brings a he the leather pouch has like 90 scissors
00:23:12
in it and he's going around my ear with little tiny scissors and he often I would bleed [laughter]
00:23:19
he would cut >> and I'd still pay him and I'd have to you know I was dabbing cotton anyway. Uh
00:23:26
so go so you're doing that and um >> so here's >> what what's your first move in in
00:23:31
Hollywood then what are you gonna say? So back then you had to you had to go into a [ __ ] guy's office and do a
00:23:38
scene if you wanted to try to get an agent. Hardest things in the world. Moving to Hollywood for anybody
00:23:44
listening. Here's your two toughest things. Get getting an agent >> and getting your SAG card. They're
00:23:52
almost impossible things to do, right? >> Without help. Without some sort of help
00:23:58
>> without without knowing anybody, >> no connections. Yeah. It's an impossible task, but back then you would I only did
00:24:05
it once. I had this oldtimey agent named Dick Dunn who referred to himself in the
00:24:11
third person as old Dick Dunn. Old Dick Dunn always returns his calls. Old Dick Dunn. [laughter]
00:24:18
>> Dick. >> I want to make that a character. Play him already. Yeah. >> Dick Dunn doesn't do that. Dick Dunn
00:24:25
goes over here. Dick Dunn gets it done. Dick Dunn drives himself to work. >> Old dick done. Ed, you gota add old
00:24:32
dick. You referred to him. >> Old dick done. Okay. Old dick done will give you a dick down.
00:24:38
>> OLD DICK DONE HAD A FARM. EI [ __ ] YOURSELF. [laughter] >> So So what what So he's your agent now?
00:24:48
Dick. >> So So old Dick Dunn I go in I do a scene and uh he's my guy. And Old Dictan has
00:24:55
an office up on the end of Sunset before it goes into Beverly Hills, right across
00:24:59
from the old Jaguar place. I don't know if that's still there, but do you know where I'm talking about?
00:25:03
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Of course. >> Check this out. Old Dick Dunn used to say, "Hey,
00:25:09
come down to the office today at noon. We're going to lunch." And I'd go down at noon. This is probably Yeah, this is
00:25:15
1985. [snorts] Guess who's [ __ ] in the office? And we're going to go down and have lunch at the uh old hamburger
00:25:22
hamlet at the end there. Remember that? >> [ __ ] yeah. >> Oh yeah. Yeah, definitely.
00:25:26
>> I walk in. >> Vincent Price. So he's friends with Dick Dunn. He goes, "Come on. We're coming.
00:25:33
You're coming with me and Vince. We're going down here. I [ __ ] get to go hang out with a couple times this
00:25:39
happened with Vincent Price." >> Hi, I'm Vincent Price. No, I don't do it. >> I'd like the curly fries.
00:25:48
We're dealing We're dealing with a very unusual situation. >> It's slightly Peter Lori a little bit.
00:25:55
>> Yeah. You know, Hamburger Hamlet had uh you were over there by Abrams Artist too
00:26:00
which was kind of by that vicinity. There was Leome which someone told me Elton John ate there for lunch once and
00:26:06
I kept going. Someone take me that place so I can see Elton John real life and Hamburger Hamlet Dean Martin was there
00:26:12
once. >> Oh, did you see him? >> Yeah. So, it's the same thing. It's like you can randomly you get these agents
00:26:18
that their whole life is based on lunch. They go let's go to lunch and then they
00:26:22
go to they get out and show off their new clients which you look like a big stud. He's walking around. It's my new
00:26:28
guy. It's my new guy. But he knows Vincent Price which is pretty cool. >> Yeah. So you're you're hanging out with
00:26:34
old Dick Dunn and Vincent Price in 1985. >> The basically DiCaprio's squad. [laughter]
00:26:43
>> Here's the [ __ ] craziest part. I looked it up recently because he was such an old man to me, right? Uh, you
00:26:50
know, he was a little hunched over. I looked it up. I'm [ __ ] 63. He was a year younger than me when we were going
00:26:57
to lunch. >> He seemed ancient. >> He seemed anient. He was a [ __ ] year younger than me. [laughter] So bizarre.
00:27:05
So So here's what happens. The old Dick Dunn uh he's he's sending me out for things and halfway through hair school,
00:27:12
I get a commercial, right? So, I get this uh commercial for uh Samsung Electronics.
00:27:19
I shoot it in one afternoon and uh you know, hair school takes about a year to get out of. Uh so, halfway through hair
00:27:29
school, when I graduate from hair school, this this uh commercial starts running. And so, I'm working in this
00:27:36
salon. I go to work at the salon on Melrose in Bless called On Mars. And uh uh what our biggest client was this rock
00:27:44
and roll kid named Charlie Ston. Do you remember this kid at all? >> Oh, hell yeah. That Yeah. Be so lonely.
00:27:49
>> Be so lonely. Ah, I love that you know that. Charlie was our our guy. I used to
00:27:53
wash Charlie's hair for um I'm making $150 a week in this hair salon. Hoping for some walk-ins, which
00:28:00
hardly ever happened because it's on the third floor of this building. So, >> walk ups.
00:28:06
>> Yeah. Yeah. Nobody's walking in. So, I'm basically >> too tall. I can't [laughter] make it.
00:28:11
>> [ __ ] that place. >> Oh, I can't even get up the stairs for my haircut. [laughter]
00:28:15
>> No, my little Jewish ladies aren't coming there anymore. Oh, they're coming >> now. I'm in the hip place, but it's all
00:28:21
appointments for the three other hairdressers that are working there who are [ __ ] booked all day long and I'm,
00:28:27
you know, I'm sweeping up uh [ __ ] hair in, you know, throw a trash can and wait for
00:28:33
>> Charlie Ston. >> Is the new kid in town? >> The new kid's got to be the shampoo boy,
00:28:37
too. So, I'm shampooing everybody's heads and uh towels dry them. Here's the thing that I'm 150 a week. Two months
00:28:45
I'm working in a salon. The commercial starts playing eight grand a month. I get for two months for this thing.
00:28:53
Sweet. >> For this thing I worked six hours on quit I quit that job and now >> one commercial. Did you throw [laughter]
00:29:01
off your Did you throw off found your scissors and throw throw a Did you do a >> NORMA RAY? GUESS WHAT? YOU ALL
00:29:10
[laughter] >> SO GREAT. That's [ __ ] that eight grand a month. >> Eight grand. And that's what gets you
00:29:16
addicted. You go, "Holy crap. I got >> there's money in them their hills. >> I'm still in the $300 a month place,
00:29:22
right?" So yeah, and I still got a nice little Rolls-Royce. I got [laughter] >> You have any shoes with diamonds on
00:29:31
them? [laughter] >> Yeah. >> And I got a little leftover from the from the sack of gold from the from the
00:29:37
lawsuit, right? So I'm like, [ __ ] I'm not going to do this hair deal. And uh I'm kind of, you know, going out on
00:29:45
auditions and stuff. I got my [ __ ] cheap little head shot. But another mistake, young people who are listening,
00:29:51
coming to Hollywood, just know this. It's not going to happen. You're [ __ ] not going to have a 40-year career where
00:29:58
you only get to act and live in a in a multi-million dollar house. And that just it's it's it's like telling it's
00:30:07
like telling a kid who's standing in line at for the five o'clock [ __ ] you know, comedy store there to do a
00:30:14
open mic night. Like this probably is not you're you're not going to do this for 30 years and live in a
00:30:20
million-dollar house. You kind of just got to know that that's not going to happen. It's, you know, for the three of
00:30:26
us it happened, but there's a lot so many reasons why it probably shouldn't have happened, right?
00:30:32
>> It's a possibility, but it's very, very tough. And, and they see people like you, they see people and they go, "It
00:30:37
can happen." And that keeps people going. And if they're good, I think if you're good, someone finds you. Advice I
00:30:45
used to get was like, "How do you do this? How do you do this?" I go, "People will find you." If you're good at
00:30:49
something like your teacher realized you had something and and sometimes in comedy I see people and I go I think
00:30:55
this guy's gonna make it but you can't it's not just about do it a lot. It is about doing a lot but if you have
00:31:01
something I think the word gets around somehow >> right but it's it's tough. I mean
00:31:06
>> long shot I I I think I think it's emotionally violent to do this career. I was in this acting class at San
00:31:13
Francisco State and this actress came in and she's somebody you might recognize or did a few commercials. First time I'd
00:31:18
heard this. If you can do anything else with your life, do that. But if you can't live without trying show business,
00:31:28
go ahead. That's how But she had a cigarette and she looked pretty blue up. But anyway, go ahead. [laughter]
00:31:34
>> It ain't easy, kid. stuff. So, here you are. Now, you got a commercial under your belt.
00:31:43
>> Yeah, I got a commercial under my belt and uh uh you know uh I don't know a year a year's worth of Hollywood acting
00:31:52
classes, right? Um but here's the mistake that that everybody makes that old Dick Duns now he's got some
00:32:00
connections, right? So he's sending me out for [ __ ] Hollywood's such a small little town back in the 80s. It's even
00:32:07
smaller now in some ways for let's say casting directors. You guys know this for casting directors. There's [ __ ]
00:32:14
12 or 15 of them, right? >> So Dick Dun's sending me out for pilots and stuff because you know I'm a tall
00:32:21
[ __ ] halfdeent looking white guy, right? So back then that was most of every [ __ ] every pilot had a role for
00:32:29
a guy like that. But I'm not ready, you know? I'm [ __ ] walking in there >> too green.
00:32:34
>> I'm green. My hands are shaking. The [ __ ] script. I'm forgetting where I am. I'm pouring sweat like broadcast
00:32:39
news. And >> the mistake is these guys now have seen me. And >> you only get that, you know, that saying
00:32:48
you only get one first shot. >> One first shot to make a good impression. So they're never [ __ ]
00:32:53
bringing me back. You know, every time I go in there, they're like, "No." You know, you can just tell when somebody's
00:32:58
ready. you see a guy on on on any open mic night, you guys know like, [ __ ] this guy's got something or he's got a
00:33:05
long way to go. >> It's too early. Yeah. >> Too early. So, that was my big mistake,
00:33:09
you know, and uh to well, not my mistake because I was learning, you know, but that's my advice also to people like
00:33:15
don't come to Hollywood and go get that head shot before you take like three years of acting classes. God, before we
00:33:21
get to your s your success Northern Exposure and stuff, I know that you did >> work doing lighting at the Rings and
00:33:30
when Phil Hartman and John Levitz were there. So, >> this is a [ __ ] great story. Now, now
00:33:37
we're Now we got something. >> This is SNL, baby. >> SNL adjacent. Yeah, >> this is SNL. Uh uh [ __ ]
00:33:47
>> So why were you working there if you were so flush and doing commercials? >> Yeah. Well, you didn't run out of that
00:33:53
8K that got taxed, did you? [laughter] >> It goes like this. >> So my buddy wants to go see the movies,
00:34:03
right? Remember when you used to go to the movies and see a [ __ ] look at the posters and go, "Oh, let's go see this
00:34:08
one." Right? >> [ __ ] yeah. >> Yeah. So, we do that and then there's this movie with this guy and it's
00:34:13
called, you know, Pee-Wee's Big Adventure. >> I said, he goes, "Let's go see it." And
00:34:20
I said, "No, [ __ ] Let's go see whatever else is playing out. This is a [ __ ] kids movie." He says, "I don't think
00:34:25
it's a kids movie. I think it's something else." So, we go, it's like [ __ ] that first showing 10:30 or 11
00:34:31
o'clock. I can't remember what theater, but somewhere in Hollywood. We go see this movie and I sit there, my [ __ ]
00:34:38
jaw drops. I can't even understand like what I'm seeing, right? Because >> so weird. Yeah.
00:34:43
>> This character is, you know, it's so dimensional. And this [ __ ] guy, who is this guy?
00:34:51
>> We sit through like three three of them. We sit through three of those screenings
00:34:54
and probably went back a couple times and took other people. But what you got to remember is, and nobody understands
00:35:00
it, you know, today except, you know, this age range, once you walk out of that theater and you're going, "Who's
00:35:07
[ __ ] Peewee Herman?" You got no way to look up who this guy is, >> you know? There's there's no [ __ ]
00:35:12
little thing you can touch. >> Google him. >> Yeah. What do you go find information in
00:35:17
1985? >> I thought he's a real guy. I didn't think he's playing anyone. I was too
00:35:21
new. I was just like, that's a real guy, >> you know. I didn't think it was a Paul
00:35:26
Rubin. >> That's funny. >> Or so where there is no Paul Rubin. There's only Pee-Wee Herman. Yeah. I'm
00:35:32
not even sure I knew this. You know, we're reading in the credits that this guy's name was Paul Rubin. So we, you
00:35:38
know, we can't find out anything about this guy. And not too long after that, my buddy says, "Hey, there's this
00:35:44
there's this place where this guy named Paul Rubin, who's playing Pee-Wee, studied acting and and does skits called
00:35:52
The Grounding. It's Right. Groundlings. It's on Melrose. Let's go [ __ ] check it out. He'll probably be there, right?"
00:35:59
>> Yeah, for sure. [laughter] >> So we I know. So we go there. >> It makes sense. Yeah, makes sense. So
00:36:06
far, it tracks. >> It's tracking. We're We're going to go [ __ ] see this guy. So, um, we go.
00:36:13
It's a Friday night. I remember it was a Friday night. We get some tickets. I think they're [ __ ] seven or $10 to go
00:36:19
see the Groundlings. You guys have You guys have been to the Groundlings. >> Yep.
00:36:23
>> So, we walk in this theater. It's a very tiny theater for anybody listening who's
00:36:27
never been there. And at this time, nobody's talking about the Groundlings, right? So now everybody has some kind of
00:36:32
reference because of all the Saturday Night Live alum. >> But you you know it's a very small
00:36:37
theater. There's an aisle up the middle. It's about 99 seats and there's [ __ ] uh uh 50 seats on each side up a little
00:36:46
incline. It's small >> tiny intimate. >> Very tiny intimate. So we get in there and and uh we're looking around. Ah,
00:36:53
[ __ ] Peewee's not here. And the show starts. I'm sure he's not there. The show starts and I once again I can't
00:37:02
believe what I'm seeing. So it's it's about a half hour. I'm sorry. I guess it's 45 minutes or so of sketch, right?
00:37:12
>> And then they take a little intermission and then come back and this fella stands
00:37:16
up and starts saying, you know, give me a place, give me a town, give me a job. And they're doing some of the [ __ ]
00:37:24
best improv I've ever seen because I've only been in classes, right, with people
00:37:29
who don't know what the [ __ ] they're doing. >> It looks like a magic trick. It's
00:37:32
unbelievable how how crazy is this. You go, how are they doing this? >> It is a magic trick because they've
00:37:36
studied, you know, how to produce the [ __ ] you know, rabbits from the hat. I mean, they, you know, this the gimme
00:37:44
scenario, as you know, is is also a trick. It's like you [ __ ] say anything, you know. Yeah.
00:37:49
>> But it's but they're seeming like geniuses at this point. Yeah, of course. >> So, after the show, there's gonna be
00:37:56
another show. We're at the early show. After the show, we go out and the audience is clearing out and this fella
00:38:01
who's saying, "Give me a name. Give me a place." Comes out in the in the thing. And I go up to him and I say, "Hey, I
00:38:09
love the show. Is there I could tell he's kind of in charge." It it turns out this fell's name is Tom Maxwell who at
00:38:16
the time is like a founding member of the Groundlings and the sort of guy their director right of everything.
00:38:24
>> Uh but I just know he's the guy that was leading the [ __ ] band. And so I said
00:38:29
is is there any is there any job that I could do here? I I love this. I want to be around this. And he said he looks me
00:38:36
up and down. He says are you available every weekend? And I said yeah. He says, "My spot guy's leaving. You ever work a
00:38:44
spotlight?" And I said, "No." He said, "Can you come tomorrow night for the first show? Get here about six o'clock
00:38:53
and you're going to do two weeks with my spotlight guy and uh you're going to take over the spotlight." I said,
00:38:58
"Yeah." He goes, "You're also going to sell candy and beer at the intermissions." And I He says, "You good
00:39:04
with that?" And I said, "Yeah." He goes, "35 bucks to show cash. So 70 bucks a night. You good with that?" And I go,
00:39:09
"Yeah." He goes, "I'll see you tomorrow." And I [ __ ] came back the next day and [laughter] I learned how to
00:39:16
[ __ ] do the spotlight, which is much more intricate than you would think >> because you know now you're now you're
00:39:23
doing a dance right with with with the performers. So >> I might have been it might have happened
00:39:30
before me but I uh I don't remember like love it for example doing >> hello >> hello master thesian Tom jealous
00:39:40
>> um so when so for instance you know Hartwin would probably say and now a word from liars anonymous right and at
00:39:49
that beat it's a dark theater bang that spotlight has to come on exactly where [ __ ] love it is going to be right
00:39:56
Totally. And I got to know his act and I got to know what his last [ __ ] goodbye line is and bang, spotlight goes
00:40:03
out, stays dark for a minute. You know, there's a little booth next to me where guys are also operating the main lights,
00:40:09
right? So, I got to learn this this [ __ ] act and uh for the whole, you know, for the whole show
00:40:17
and it was just [ __ ] amazing. And I I don't know how long I was there before one weekend Love it is gone, right? It's
00:40:26
like where's John? He's got an audition for Saturday Night Live. [snorts] >> Now, in my mind, this this is not
00:40:33
possible because >> show that you have run across in the world. It might be on Saturday Live.
00:40:39
>> Might be on Saturday Night Live. One of my favorite shows that I have watched
00:40:42
since the day it came on in 1975. I believe it was October because I'm about 14 or 15. and to this [ __ ] day have
00:40:51
probably never missed an episode. I mean, I still get excited when I wake up on Saturdays. I'm not bullshitting that
00:40:56
tonight is a is a new [ __ ] episode of uh Saturday Night Live with somebody Josh Brolan maybe. And all day long I'm
00:41:03
like, "Fuck, it's coming on soon." I'm still like a 14-y old boy when it's on. Are you guys like that at all?
00:41:08
>> I love it. Uh >> it um Well, >> uh if I go back there Yeah. If I go back there and I hear that theme music,
00:41:18
>> yeah, >> Lauren talks to me and I go in 8H. Yeah, it's heady heady stuff. There's nothing
00:41:23
like it. >> But the interesting part of that is that you're seeing Phil Hartman and John
00:41:28
Loveitz pre live working together and then I think there was at one point you were there, I don't know, around this
00:41:34
time and you were having an argument with your girlfriend at the ground lanes in the hallway and something happened.
00:41:40
>> Oh yeah, Dana, sore subject. >> What was that story? [snorts] just an argument getting a little loud
00:41:46
and then what happened? [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Well, so yeah, that's funny. So, love
00:41:52
it. So, from this time, there's only a couple people that are going to know I was at the ground. Phil wasn't one of
00:41:57
them because I didn't have much exchange with him, but Love it, Kathy Griffin. >> Uh, uh, George McGrath, do you know that
00:42:05
guy? George McGrath. >> He's a Simpsons guy. I always heard about I >> Simpsons guy. And he he wrote a lot of
00:42:11
the Pee-Wee stuff. >> People thought he's great writer. Yeah. [ __ ] writer. An even better
00:42:15
performer. Should have been on Saturday Night Live. Why wasn't >> Oh, I didn't know he's a performer.
00:42:19
>> Oh my god. One of the best. One of the best. Um, so and the back of these stairs at the ground where you work in
00:42:26
the spotlight goes down to where the cast is. You know, Phil and John would sneak up, you know, individually to kind
00:42:31
of watch the show if they weren't on for a while. And I would kind of have this rap with with John, right? And so we we
00:42:38
sort of had a thing. Phil would come up and I liked shoes, right? I always had bought like thrift store shoes and Phil
00:42:44
would always notice my shoes like executive wing tips or some two-tone shoes. >> Oh yeah.
00:42:49
>> And he'd say every time he'd say, >> "Hey, nice shoes." He'd whisper to me because the audience is also sitting
00:42:55
right below me. He'd say I'd say, "Thanks. [clears throat] Thanks." He'd say, "Would you get those?" And I like
00:43:01
to shop. >> He [laughter] wants a pair. >> Yeah. I I uh I like to shop at this place called Art Barks that used to be
00:43:07
on Melrose. >> I remember Art Barks. >> Art Barks. Where'd you get those shoes, fella?
00:43:12
>> Yeah, I like the shoes. Yeah, little shoe hazard inf. Yeah. >> Uh, so every time he because as he's
00:43:18
coming up these stairs, you know, he's seen my feet first before he gets to the top. And so every time I started found
00:43:23
myself like trying to wear nice shoes when I'd work because I thought Bill might notice.
00:43:28
>> Yeah. What a great reason to talk. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And every time he'd [ __ ] come up
00:43:33
almost and he'd look down shoes and he'd say, "Hards." And I'd say, "Yeah, hard works." Um, but I was more friendly with
00:43:41
love at >> three. So, [laughter] >> so anyway, what about the argument with the girlfriend?
00:43:46
>> Yeah, >> this time I'm So, I'm with this girlfriend, but this time I'm famous,
00:43:50
right? Because I'm on Northern Exposure for about two years, right? >> So, John and Phil are hosting this thing
00:43:55
in like Montana, one of these things you guys get paid for to come host a charity
00:43:58
event, right? >> Yeah. And I'm I'm with this girlfriend and we're arguing in the hall
00:44:06
out loud [ __ ] kind of yelling and the door pops open and it's love its and he says, "Hey," [laughter] he goes, "Get in
00:44:13
here." And so we both come into the into the room. So you guys do love it all the
00:44:18
time, right? And so the world kind of thinks of love it as uh you know, jealous. I
00:44:25
>> Hello jealous. Yeah, that guy, >> right? That he and he's like that on talk show. So they don't know there's
00:44:30
another [ __ ] side to this guy. Y >> and Loveitz for about an hour was like a therapist to us telling us why we should
00:44:38
be kind to each other, how to [ __ ] get through this thing. It it was like every self-help book you've ever read
00:44:45
because I've read a ton of them >> uh in an hour. I mean, I just always remember that that he did that. You
00:44:52
know, you know that side of him, right? >> He's like that. He's like a fix it guy.
00:44:55
if you say something's wrong, he goes, I'm going to give you a list of three doctors that you should see tomorrow and
00:44:59
I'm going to call them ahead of time. And I'm like, oh, okay. So, he really gets into things and he's very like an
00:45:04
earnest person. >> Yeah. >> That that seems a little different than his persona.
00:45:09
>> So, you're trying to get the power over. You should accept the power. I could
00:45:14
just see him. Yeah. >> Why do you fight? You need to You're lucky to have someone, you know. Yeah,
00:45:20
he does get in that. He's not that broad, but he he come he will have a talk with you. I agree. You're right on
00:45:24
that story. >> It was It was just amazing. And uh I bumped into him a few times since then,
00:45:30
you know, because where we live, we're just so far out out of Hollywood by, you know, a lot of hours. But I'll always
00:45:36
remember him until they stick me in the ground that he was took the time to be so sweet like that.
00:45:41
>> That's nice. Sean, if you're listening, there you go. So >> So you have such a big resume here. I
00:45:47
don't even know where to start. >> Let's talk about this fat resume. >> Damn. Um
00:45:51
>> there what the first the first big one was Northern >> the controversy of of with Rob Low. I
00:45:57
don't know if it's a known controversy. [laughter] It's not really but >> hey wait let me tell you guys one thing.
00:46:03
We we we shared the three of us shared a space in the early 90s. I think you know
00:46:09
this Dana but I'm going to reveal it. We shared a space in the early 90s for one
00:46:13
of the most iconic things in rock and roll that ever happened. You know what it is David Spade? Uhuh.
00:46:18
>> I do not. The three of us were at the 1992 MTV Awards that some people say were the
00:46:26
best awards ever. >> The one Dana hosted. >> The one Dana hosted. I presented to uh
00:46:31
Van Halen. You did skits. You did the welcoming guy >> and Oh, the a receptionist. And I also
00:46:38
was trying to help write Dana jokes. I think Dana, right? I was supposed to be underneath there with you.
00:46:42
>> And you did that. I played drums uh with you too via remote. >> Oh yeah. You got Nirvana. You got Black
00:46:51
Crows, Elton John. Uh uh uh uh Guns and Roses. >> Yeah. >> [ __ ] >> 20,000 seater.
00:46:58
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh, you got [ __ ] Eric Clapton. I mean, it was it Yeah. It was It was a
00:47:03
20,000 seater. That was an >> Pavilion. It was They were a big deal. That was a big deal.
00:47:10
>> That was a very big deal. Howard Stern, Fart Man came down. >> Oh, yeah. Oh, the same one. Wow.
00:47:18
I can't unsee that. >> So much more fun then when then it feels like I don't even know what the MTV
00:47:24
awards they even do them anymore. >> So then here's another three degrees since we're in this section.
00:47:29
>> Okay. Um, your wife was on thankfully did a part in a movie I did called Master of Disguise where she
00:47:38
>> she starts the movie and and runs away in the night and stuff and then goes in
00:47:42
a car and it's like she goes like this and then suddenly it's James Brolan. So as if James Brolan was doing a disguise.
00:47:51
So he's Bo Derek. David worked with her on Tommy Boy. Yeah. And then so we also have that connection to Bo.
00:47:58
>> We have that connection. I mean, you're married to her, but we we I met her. >> I I uh I was So, the other night when we
00:48:05
watched when we watched Tommy Boy, we were talking about some stuff, and I remember on your podcast, somebody I
00:48:11
don't remember who it was, uh was talking about Bose's short hair in Tommy Boy, right? And and that John had said,
00:48:19
uh, I don't want you to look like a movie star. Cut your hair short. And and uh uh she said, "Fuck, that didn't
00:48:26
happen like this. Here's what happened. Let's see if you guys know. Um, so B is in Paris doing pre-production on a
00:48:33
movie, right, that she's going to do a couple months from now, but she thought she should have short hair. So, she cuts
00:48:39
her hair and she's trying it out and she said about a week later, she gets a phone call, uh, we want to we want you
00:48:47
to offer you this movie. Uh, but if you say yes, you've got to get on a plane and uh tomorrow and uh fly to Toronto
00:48:57
from Paris >> and [snorts] start and start that afternoon, which she did. She said yes
00:49:04
to it and she said she [ __ ] landed in Toronto in the morning and by the afternoon she was shooting the swimming
00:49:09
pool scene, right? >> Wow. Wow. Right. >> Yeah. And so that sounds familiar. Yeah.
00:49:14
Yeah. >> So, for all these years, as we know, acting uh how acting goes, you don't
00:49:18
[ __ ] get a call 12 hours before. So, she was obviously replacing somebody who >> I was wondering, are you going to ask me
00:49:25
who she covered? I don't know. >> Now, we finally know. >> I don't know who fell out. Do Do you
00:49:29
know? Because I don't know. >> Who could beat Bo Derek? >> So, so Bose's fantastic manager, I don't
00:49:37
even know if you know this, but was the great Bernie Burrowstein, right? >> Oh, we
00:49:41
>> Oh. Oh, it was >> it was Yeah. Oh wow, that all ties together. Okay, >> I know Bernie well.
00:49:47
>> So Bernie only had two women apparently according to Bernie who we've had so many dinners with. I [ __ ] love that
00:49:53
guy. >> Um Bernie only had Gilda and Bo, the only two women he's ever represented. I
00:50:00
think that's pretty cool. [clears throat] >> Oh [ __ ] that's that's him. That's a
00:50:03
good group. >> So Dan, I mean David, you don't know who Bo replaced. If you tell me, maybe it'll
00:50:09
ring a bell. But I just it's Bo is so ingrained in my head for that. >> Raquel Welch.
00:50:16
>> Oh >> yeah. >> Do I remember anything about Raquel Welch? >> Wow. >> I don't think that got I don't think I
00:50:24
got CCD on that. Didn't come across my desk. I was in the same boat. They're going, "Get the [ __ ] over there and cut
00:50:30
your hair and go get your fittings and learn your lines." And then they're like, I think and I think we were like,
00:50:36
wait, who's the person that's playing this? Who's this? Because we didn't know. We we got we had one girl we knew
00:50:43
that we got as the girl that we both flirt with at the pool. But other than that, we didn't know anyone. We didn't
00:50:47
know. Julie Warner was in my acting class, though. >> Wait, >> that's not why she got it. But we knew
00:50:53
her. Rob Schneider was in there in Ivana Chubbik's class. And then uh so I was like when they her name came up, I said,
00:51:00
"Oh, I I think she's great." She came in, Farley loved her. Um, and Bo came in and, uh, Bo came into a [ __ ] storm.
00:51:08
That's so nice. She just said yes, by the way, because it was kind of a gamble. >> Yeah. Well, she had time off for this
00:51:14
other thing that never actually happened. Here's the other thing. B said >> B said, uh,
00:51:20
>> she was only supposed to be there for a week. She said, I was [ __ ] there for
00:51:24
10 weeks >> on Tommy Boy. >> On Tommy Boy. and she could then she started flying home and coming back for
00:51:31
just those few little scenes that she's in. She's probably in five little scenes. Uh she said she was there for 10
00:51:36
10 weeks. And I've heard you on the thing saying before how you guys would fly back to do the show and then come
00:51:42
back on on Saturday night and be exhausted unless Farley went to the same party.
00:51:47
[laughter] >> When when he wanted to go to the [ __ ] afterparty, we were dead. >> Yeah.
00:51:50
>> We got to go for one minute. Lauren will get mad. I go, Lauren doesn't know what
00:51:54
the [ __ ] who we are. I said, "What do you what do you remember about Chris?" And she [laughter] said, "Here's what
00:52:00
she said about each of you." She said, "The crazy thing I remember is this is 95, so it's not like you could get an
00:52:07
espresso machine and stuff now." She said, "He wanted a an espresso machine." And she goes, "They got him like a
00:52:12
$14,000 espresso machine." And he would drink a bunch of espresso and then she said his face would just get beat red
00:52:19
and he'd [ __ ] like, you know, pull his hair up and stuff and go like, "What are we doing? What are we waiting for?"
00:52:25
Yeah, it was it was a uh she was exactly right. And the first day we had a three
00:52:30
and a half page scene in the diner where I I realized he's a good salesman and he's talking to lady about chicken wings
00:52:36
or whatever they are winging and he was doing a shot of espresso between each take and we were like Chris what are you
00:52:43
do like we both didn't really know how much [ __ ] coverage we would do. We thought we'd do the scene a few times.
00:52:48
Everyone's like, "Great job." But that was a master. And then they push in and do a medium shot. Then they push over me
00:52:55
and do my over the shoulder of Chris. Then a tight, and then turn around, do me, then me as a wide, and then the two
00:53:00
of us in a side shot, and then the waitress this way, and then that way. >> And we had no idea. So we're there for
00:53:06
16 hours. >> And Chris is asleep at lunch going, "What the [ __ ] We have more of this. We
00:53:10
already did it a 100 times." I go at 9:00 a.m. >> Yeah. He peaked at 9:00 a.m. And we
00:53:15
said, "You can't." I said, "I don't think you're gonna have that cappuccino all day. You're gonna have a heart
00:53:19
attack." I said, "That coupled with your salt imbalance leads to a weight problem." And so, yeah. So, he uh he
00:53:27
goes, "I got to tone it down." But he would he would drink all that in the morning and he would crash so hard at
00:53:32
lunch that all the PAs would like be like, "I'm not waking him up." Because you'd hear knock knock. You get the [ __ ]
00:53:37
out of here. [laughter] And they're like, "They they need [clears throat] you. first team
00:53:45
>> so funny and he come back so mad and his hair all done whatever coming out of his
00:53:50
Bo all I remember is Bo was being lovely and we were nervous around her and so uh
00:53:55
but she couldn't have been more sweet and she might have felt like she's cuz she wasn't every scene that um and these
00:54:04
idiots you know like this goofy comedy but I'm glad it actually worked out where she's part of it because over the
00:54:10
years I always hear about it it's very nice to hear about something like that. I'm glad she's part of it all.
00:54:14
>> I said, "What do you remember about David mostly?" And she said, she said, "Uh, I just remember
00:54:21
>> a a ste people a steady stream of people. He's was eating more tuna fish sandwiches than I've ever seen anybody
00:54:29
eat in their life." And he never put on a pound, but he was constantly eating tuna fish sandwiches.
00:54:34
>> It was uh the stress of the movie. My weight I was losing was going straight to Farley. So this Lauren would
00:54:42
say, "Well, the weight stayed on screen." Uh, it just shifted >> from you to him. But he said, "You were
00:54:50
you're like the number 10. It's a little skinny spade." And then >> you became Laurel Lyn Hardy.
00:54:55
>> Yeah, it was Lauren Hardy. >> It was Lauren >> and and and through the you know, you're
00:54:59
shooting the movie out of sequence, so we don't even know if it's any good, but we were stressed out of our [ __ ]
00:55:03
gourds. >> Here's the funny Here's this is the funny thing I want people who are
00:55:06
listening to do. So, I'm surprised there's not more outtakes and bloopers of you guys because I looked them up
00:55:12
online and there's really only one little set of like a threeinut little put together of of bloopers, right?
00:55:19
>> Unless there's another one I couldn't find. But, you know, when you're making
00:55:22
a movie, you're there for [ __ ] six weeks, mostly 14 hours a day, and you don't move to the next scene for people
00:55:30
who aren't in showbiz. You don't move to the next scene till you shoot one of the
00:55:34
things David was talking about like two people sitting at a table. Yeah. And uh then you'll shoot the other guy from
00:55:40
another angle. And until you get that angle and then move it to another one, you don't even think about going outside
00:55:47
to shoot the [ __ ] scene in the rain with the deer or whatever. >> Yeah. >> So when I watch these bloopers, you
00:55:53
know, people who haven't made many movies, it's always >> I know what you're gonna say.
00:55:57
>> I don't know. Listen, it's always fun. >> It's always fun. It's always fun to to
00:56:01
[ __ ] up and laugh, right? But the more somebody laughs and [ __ ] up a take, uh,
00:56:06
the more you got to stay there and [ __ ] do it and that the clock just ticks and sometimes you're going, "Man,
00:56:11
we could have been out of here an hour and I'm still trying to do this scene, right?" So to watch Farley, you know, be
00:56:17
like a a little kid because I was watching you and you >> Yeah, I know. >> You rarely [ __ ] up, but Farley would
00:56:23
constantly like machine gun laugh when he [ __ ] up and sometimes you laugh, but
00:56:28
I'd look at your face in some of these and you're just like looking straight ahead and he's like in your ear with the
00:56:34
>> I knew where you were heading with that because I saw the tape once and I was
00:56:37
like, "Oh my god, look at me." Because I'm just staring into space going, >> "We're going again."
00:56:44
>> Yeah. because you know you can't get it and you can't move on like you said and
00:56:47
it's 3 hours after we're supposed to rap and we have to fly back to New York from
00:56:51
Toronto and I'm like Farley just say it and he thought it was the greatest joy in the world to [ __ ] up his lines and
00:56:56
get the crowd laughing. He's like the mayor of the crowd. He's like look at Chip over there. He's laughing. He knows
00:57:00
what's going on. And I'm like keep going. We got to get this. And so I could see some of those we would laugh
00:57:07
and some of those we were just staring into space cuz we were in a days going it's so long. It's so long.
00:57:13
>> Yeah. And there's one little thing where he's trying to pop that [ __ ] life preserver, right? That in [laughter] the
00:57:18
movie, in the movie, he just grabs a pen and it pops. But there's an outtake of him and you could kind of see the anger
00:57:24
in him, which is kind of mad. HE'S LIKE, "THIS [ __ ] PEN DOESN'T [ __ ] work or something like that." That's That's
00:57:30
>> It wasn't sharp enough. >> Yeah, it wasn't sharp enough. There's I love seeing those little uh intricate
00:57:35
things. >> Yeah. The behind the scene. There's one time when I go for some reason when he
00:57:39
goes, "Zalinsky is blah blah." And I go and he seems like a nice guy. And I go he
00:57:44
and [clears throat] and then he starts laughing and then I start laughing because that's a genuine we crack up and
00:57:50
he laughs so hard goes what a dick. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But I'm like and then I'm like we got to
00:57:56
get that again because it sounded kind of funny. I hope they can keep that because
00:58:00
>> I'm trying to stay in it and then he laughs so hard I can't I start laughing.
00:58:04
>> Oh people look at there's a sweet one too where you're saying line and then you whisper his line to him and he
00:58:09
[ __ ] throws himself down and he's like a >> [laughter] >> cuz I would know his lines in my head.
00:58:15
I'm like, "Just say this." And then I say this and he's like staring into space. I'm like that blank look. He does
00:58:20
not know what's next. >> It's so great. People, good people listening, just [ __ ] punch it in and
00:58:26
watch it. >> All right. What do you want to know? >> Well, you've Well, these are your tent
00:58:36
polls. Okay. basically for for the general public. Northern Exposure won the Emmy.
00:58:42
>> Yeah. >> Your first huge job. Obviously, um, Sex in the City and then revisiting it now.
00:58:49
[laughter] >> Obviously, your your time as a rock star, which is really interesting
00:58:55
>> or a country music star. Uh, my big fat Greek Wedding one and two. >> Jesus. >> Um, Parenthood. Uh, Kate Hudson raising
00:59:04
Helen. Tony Colette's husband and um United States of Terror. >> Yeah. [laughter]
00:59:09
>> So, >> it's it's uh we can't get to all of it, but >> that's okay. There's a lot of [ __ ] on
00:59:15
there. There's a lot of [ __ ] on there. Here's the thing, fellas. >> It's called Fly on the Wall, right? So,
00:59:21
you got to reveal some stuff, right? Or else we're just [ __ ] talking. Yeah, the fact of the matter is I I kind of
00:59:28
picked, look, I'm at the I'm I'm at the fourth quarter of the football game now in life and in shows [laughter]
00:59:34
and and it's just a fact. So, I can reveal now I picked the [ __ ] wrong thing to do with my life, right? I mean,
00:59:42
I really, you know, being an actor is is uh for one, since I was a kid, I hate to
00:59:50
be told what to do [ __ ] by any authority figure. So I picked something to do with my whole life for my
00:59:55
fulfillment of my work life which is >> dude stand here say this put this on look this way say it faster cut your
01:00:03
hair like this and there's not really as an actor um in my position which is you
01:00:10
know always second third banana in Iron Hand >> yeah I'm not Emma Emma [ __ ] stone in
01:00:16
in a you [laughter] know in pretty things poor things you know where I'm I'm collaborating I'm not collaborating
01:00:23
with the writers. I'm just [ __ ] Have you ever sat >> You feel like a puppet. You feel like
01:00:29
But here's the here's the part of the puppet. Have you ever sat in a [ __ ] waiting room of a doctor's office for
01:00:34
like an hour and you're going, "What the fuck?" For me, that's what making a movie is like because I'm not part of
01:00:42
any creative process. And those minutes that we'll do the table and then they say, "Okay, we're going to turn around.
01:00:48
We'll need you in two hours." that 14-hour day for those six weeks where for anybody listening, it's gonna sound
01:00:55
like I'm an ungrateful prick, but I'm just telling you, uh, I for my work life, I made a lot of money. I live in a
01:01:02
beautiful home. People come to me in every [ __ ] restaurant I go in. I'm a friend of the worlds. But as far as a a
01:01:09
fulfilling, creative work life, I didn't write one [ __ ] line. I didn't write one joke to make people laugh. So, it's
01:01:16
been unfulfilling on on that level. like all those things you you mentioned, you
01:01:20
know, there were some, you know, good times here and there, but most of it sitting waiting for them to [ __ ]
01:01:26
knock on your door to go, "Hey, we need you to come back and uh say that thing again." And to me, man, there's it's
01:01:33
such a boring [ __ ] life. Anybody listening has never been on a movie set, if you came to visit any one of us for
01:01:39
two days, just two of those 14 hour days, you'd say, "I never want to be here ever f again. This is like watching
01:01:45
paint dry." >> And it's just human. It's just human stuff. Did you ever have a director that
01:01:50
you felt because I had this experience in my [laughter] three movie career uh was actively had animus toward you,
01:01:57
didn't really want to cast you, was kind of subtly sabotaging you. I mean, you get in scenarios where you really feel
01:02:04
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Mo many of them. Many of them. But but but mostly they've got such a you
01:02:10
know, look, I'm not a [ __ ] movie actor. I've been in basically big fat Greek weddings. the only movie I'm
01:02:16
really a television actor and so you know that thing has to move quick and that guy's got to make a million
01:02:21
decisions and you know we're not shucking and jabbing and going out for wine after so
01:02:26
>> you know I'm just at that point in my life now that uh you know I like being at home with with Bo and the dogs and I
01:02:34
don't want to go to [ __ ] Little Rock and stay even if you know even if you're in penthouse of the [ __ ] Hyatt in
01:02:40
Singapore you're still not in your own [ __ ] bed and you're gone for six weeks. And for me, I can't. Every day is
01:02:48
like a a guy like marking the wall going like, I'll get out of here soon. So, at
01:02:53
this point in my life, I'm just gonna >> just sort of, you know, I have if something seems really really [ __ ]
01:03:00
fun, uh, I'll say yes. But then I get there and two days later, I'm always saying like, why did I [ __ ] say yes?
01:03:06
because also that work life means you know it at my best uh I I worked five or six weeks a year right so saying I
01:03:15
picked that unfulfilling thing to do like here's the thing I have to sit and wait for the phone to ring and like in
01:03:21
22 it never rang once so for that whole year I'm sitting like how do I get my besides playing the guitar and piano at
01:03:27
home how do I express myself you guys can really if you want to work [ __ ] 52 weeks a year you can do it. You know,
01:03:36
you can get a guy who books you. You can travel the [ __ ] country. You got to stay in a lot of holiday ends and you
01:03:41
got to be on a lot of planes. And do you want to do that, but you can kind of control your own life, right? And see,
01:03:47
yeah, >> as much as you want, but you know, do you want to be [ __ ] Carrot Top,
01:03:51
right? Carrot Top, not taking anything away from him. [ __ ] great. >> [clears throat]
01:03:56
>> You know, what he does is great, but for 17 years, he's been in Las Vegas doing
01:04:01
12 shows a week, pulling a [ __ ] lighted toilet seat out of a trunk, and [laughter] it's I mean, h how exciting
01:04:07
can that be for [ __ ] character? >> Giveaway is closer. >> I I would just say I'm gonna play
01:04:13
something, John. Oh, let's play something >> because within all that that which every every
01:04:21
actor really really incredibly successful ones like you, you've gotten a lot of nominations and stuff. This is
01:04:26
a scene that I I saw from Northern Exposure where your character predicts the future and so I understand why you
01:04:34
got the Emmy for that performance. It's not easy. So here it is, John predicting
01:04:39
the future. >> Okay. >> Wow. I have to tell you, Chris, I felt a little self-conscious getting these. I
01:04:45
mean, technically, I don't need to own my own washer and dryer, but then I thought, why am I being so provincial?
01:04:50
That was no big luxury. I grew up with a washer and dryer. >> Gross point. >> M smells new, like a new car. Look, it's
01:04:58
so shiny. It makes me feel uh elegant. >> That's a self-affirming power of a new
01:05:04
toy. That's life support system of the whole capitalist animal. >> Huh? I mean, when you think about it,
01:05:10
the whole material gratification angle is just the tip of the iceberg. These babies here embody the whole wolf and
01:05:17
warp of human development. >> A washer and dryer. >> Ever since the place has seen error,
01:05:21
Homo erectus has been flocking it down to the local creek to beat their first skiies against rocks. Right. Well,
01:05:27
what's a laundromat except the same old creek, but with a cheap tin roof over it, huh?
01:05:32
>> Yeah. So, >> but this this is progress. I mean, these two iron boxes, we've gone from communal
01:05:40
sides to private spin cycle. We're on our total blitz creek towards isolation. >> You think?
01:05:46
>> Listen to me. The day is coming and it ain't going to be long when you ain't even going to have to leave your living
01:05:50
room. No more schools, no more bodeas, no more tabernacles, no more cinniplexes. All right? You're going to
01:05:56
snuggle up to your fiber optics, baby, and bliss out. >> Whoa. >> Wow. >> Okay. >> That is a little prophetic. That's
01:06:04
probably 1991 or so. >> Yeah, we had a little that the audience on our this podcast will hear it. But I
01:06:11
I'm just saying, you know, we all have a a little critic in our head, but within
01:06:17
that gauntlet you've walked of, you know, being in the trailer and being controlled like a puppet. There's some
01:06:22
really good work, you know. I mean, you were in the pocket in that moment with that character.
01:06:26
>> I will say it feels good. >> Yes. And I will say that out of everything I've ever done, uh, that was
01:06:33
my first job. I think I was 27 or eight when I got that. That was my first [ __ ] job. Uh, ever. Uh, I did a
01:06:40
wonder years, you know, little guest star, but that that was it. That even to this day, that was the And funny enough,
01:06:47
after 30 years, they just started playing again on Amazon. They couldn't get the rights because all the music.
01:06:52
>> It just started streaming, which is kind of cool. But that was it. That was the
01:06:57
one because I was I would as you know I would go to work on days off uh and watch him work. You remember
01:07:04
>> when you would do that right now it's like [ __ ] I I got to work. Uh >> that was that was the one where
01:07:12
>> we we had amazing writers and and uh I I don't think I could memorize that today
01:07:17
at this age. It would I'd need [ __ ] Baron Brando Q. >> That's all I could think is how do you
01:07:22
memorize that? >> Oh my god. Uh I I couldn't do that today. But yeah, I I know what you mean.
01:07:27
And and and you got to be for people who aren't in the business and they're going, "Fuck this guy." You got to be in
01:07:33
this business to kind of [laughter] get a hook into what I'm talking about. You guys have been just as long as I have,
01:07:38
Dana, even longer. I mean, you know, you've put up with all all that [ __ ] before Saturday Night Live. You know,
01:07:45
you were, you know, I'm curious to what what where your life would have been if Saturday Night Live didn't come along. I
01:07:51
think you would have stayed uh in acting and [ __ ] good things would have happened there, but I think you would
01:07:56
have found yourself unless you were writing stuff saying exactly what I'm saying. It's like Christ, man. Uh
01:08:02
>> well, no, I did Blue Thunder. I did One of the Boys. I was completely controlled
01:08:06
in these little things and and doing stuff I hated to be doing. So, I mean, again, you're living this dream, which
01:08:12
we acknowledge to everybody, but right now, um there's going to be some hammering at my [laughter]
01:08:19
>> That's right. My crew was told from 11 to 12 to not hammer on top of my head.
01:08:26
So, we're at [laughter] that at that time. But yeah, that that's all very true. But, uh, one just one word to
01:08:32
describe Sarah Jessica Parker Parker. >> Yeah. >> One word or three words, >> one paragraph, one uh page,
01:08:39
>> [ __ ] beautiful present team leader. If I could if I could do something with just
01:08:48
one person, if I had to act the rest of my life, uh, and had to pick one person,
01:08:52
it would be her, man. I mean, there's something about this girl that's just [ __ ]
01:08:58
you know, there's you, you know, I'm I can hit a tennis ball back and forth, you know, if you're not too good. Uh,
01:09:05
and she'll just hit it back and forth with me all day and never try to [ __ ] slam me one, you know, or anything like
01:09:10
that like some of these [ __ ] actors do that you do scenes with. She's the best.
01:09:15
>> And I get to do it again apparently because you know I did that reboot last year and uh then right before the actor
01:09:23
strike and the writer strike they said hey if we get picked up would you do it again? And I said sure I'll come do some
01:09:29
but you know I really haven't heard anything since then. I'm hoping that we come back and do some
01:09:35
>> let me see what's going on. >> All right. >> Wow. >> I'll get back to you. That's awesome.
01:09:40
[laughter] Hey, Dana, would you would you tell me uh one of my favorite bits is to break
01:09:45
this [ __ ] guy complaining story up. Would you would you tell me the the uh the uh Travolta Red Red Neck?
01:09:52
>> Oh, Red Red Red Neck. You know that's my favorite. You know, Red. >> So, for some reason
01:09:58
John is a fan of this character I do sometimes, the Red Red Neckie, the redneck comedian. Now, what if you Now,
01:10:03
I don't mean to put you on the spot, but what if you didn't change a word and you
01:10:07
did red redneck as our buddy >> who introduced us, by the way, my [ __ ] favorite guy on the planet,
01:10:15
Dennis Miller. What if you did red as Dennis? What would that sound like? >> Oh, [laughter]
01:10:20
>> all right. Let's Let's give it a shot before this more hammery. >> You ever fart so loud a dog to stayed
01:10:27
away going, "What that coming against some?" [laughter] I don't mind it. I don't mind it.
01:10:34
>> Give me one more. Give me one more. >> Asked my mama to wash my tidy whitey. She said, "Sure thing." I asked her,
01:10:40
"How'd it go?" She goes, "Great. Haven't seen skid marks like that since the Daytona 500. Come and get some.
01:10:48
[laughter] >> Come and get some." >> I [ __ ] love. >> I asked my daddy, "What's for dinner?"
01:10:54
He says, "Shit on a shingle." I said, "This day just keeps getting better and better. Come and get some.
01:11:02
He's so [ __ ] funny. Dennis. >> Oh, [ __ ] Dennis Miller is my favorite favorite [ __ ] friend in the world.
01:11:09
>> He's great. >> Yeah. So, uh, well, we could go on for another hour and make a two-parter.
01:11:13
>> No, come back because you have you scratched the surface. And >> yeah, John, I mean, your stories are
01:11:18
amazing. Really, >> I have to say you you weren't complaining there. You were just giving
01:11:22
a bleak reality that everyone kind of knows anyway, but they don't hear a lot. And and and and everyone knows Showbiz
01:11:29
is tough. you were sort of saying parts that were tough. I mean, we all know the
01:11:33
glitz and glamour and the money part when it works, but there's a grind there. It It's always a grind. It's not
01:11:39
It doesn't totally just go away. >> And Okay, now I have to do one more thing. One more thing. Here you were.
01:11:44
Here you were in control. And then I'll I'll do your request. This is 30 seconds. Greg, could you play the song?
01:11:52
>> In control. [music] John Corbett original. You're playing with Sasha. >> Little Bon Joy feel to
01:12:03
>> be happy. >> I mean, look at this >> star. >> Oh, it's a whole video. We're watching a
01:12:11
video about all the wild women we've known. When the conversation [singing and music] turns
01:12:21
to you, baby, I've learned >> things are belong. >> That's a hole of a bottle of whiskey. [music]
01:12:37
That's a hole of a [music] >> So >> that's funny. >> There you go. That's written written by
01:12:48
you, I assume, essentially co-produced, >> played the instruments. Go look him up.
01:12:54
>> That Yeah, look me up. That's a lot of fun. As you know, being a uh fellow musician, that's that's a lot of fun.
01:13:00
Hey, let me tell >> I can't do what I just saw, though. But go ahead, [laughter]
01:13:04
>> David. I got a little catchphrase for you. You need a catchphrase. >> Sure. >> Uh and you gave it to yourself. You gave
01:13:10
it to yourself. One of my favorite things, and then we'll get off. One of my favorite things you did was uh was,
01:13:16
you know, you did Norm's show, you know, before he passed. >> And [snorts] I love, do you remember your catchphrase
01:13:23
for the angry guy? The angry guy. And he goes, "Hey, how would the angry guys say
01:13:27
it when you were talking about getting catfished?" And you did the [ __ ] funniest thing. You're like, "Show me
01:13:32
that. [laughter] >> Show me that." >> That's horrible. But yes, I do. >> It's a great phrase.
01:13:41
>> That's the guy. That's the dirty pervert that DMs girls and he's too rough right
01:13:45
away. >> Yeah. >> Is that what it >> would I got a line for you. Would you would you say this line and then give me
01:13:50
the catchphrase? >> Go ahead. >> Okay. The line is uh I'll put this order in and be right back with your drinks,
01:13:58
girls. Catch phrase. >> Okay. Let me see if I remember the catchphrase. Okay, girls. I'm just going
01:14:03
to put your put your order in and I'll be right back with your drinks. Does that sound good? Now, show me that
01:14:07
[ __ ] [laughter] He turns into the exorcist. >> I don't know. I You know, John, I hear a lot about
01:14:17
that dorm show. I never saw it, but it was his Netflix show and I heard so much nice things about it and I It's hard to
01:14:25
watch now because he passed away, but doing it was funny and it was really cuz it was such a rag tag operation and it
01:14:31
made me think that's the way all these shows should be cuz it was so funny that it was such a [ __ ] screw off. Yeah,
01:14:37
>> we had a blast. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for bringing that up and I don't remember that one and I just did
01:14:42
remember it. >> Great. >> So, uh, and by the way, thanks for coming on. Also, >> yeah,
01:14:47
>> you kind of stole Dana as my friend. That's fine. We're going to skim over that. Dana's got a new friend. He's up
01:14:53
there having dinners every night laughing place. >> I'll see you next week. >> When he comes to when he comes to see
01:15:00
me, he struggles through a dinner and it's fine. Um, and that's great. But John, you were hysterical. What a blast.
01:15:06
Yeah. Thanks. Thanks for talking to us. >> I love it. I love it. I had fun. Thank
01:15:10
you, guys. >> All right. I'll talk to you soon, buddy. >> Talk to you soon. >> Bye.
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