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Brian Cranston. I am the danger. >> Brian Cranston. >> Wow. >> You know, it's very rare to have someone
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go from Malcolm in the Middle, which is a very funny show, very culty, funny, and flip into Breaking Bad. I mean, a
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million things in between, but the two that come >> and now back to Malcolm.
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>> Yeah. Back to Malcolm. >> The show is back. I've seen some >> running around in his underpants.
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>> Yeah. So he's like uh he's like a he he's totally like a regular guy. Like he
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doesn't wear Brian Cran like any kind of ego. He just sort of But man, Breaking
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Bad was I mean, you know, arguably one of the best acting things has ever been recorded in history.
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>> I talked to someone yesterday who says they're rewatching Breaking Bad
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>> for real. >> That's something just kind of like The Sopranos. Every once in a while you can
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rewatch it. >> Yep. >> But to be able to do broad comedy and get big laughs and then do Breaking Bad,
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which got so dark and so scary and weird, is such a range. But yeah, he's a fun guy to talk to. He's very real. Um,
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smart guy. >> Yeah, very light, likes to laugh, >> likes the comedian world, and uh just
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wants to crack up. So, >> we had a blast with him. And I think Malcolm in the Middle is on presently,
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so you can see him in that. Here he is. Brian Cranston. >> Don't say anything. He can't hear us
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yet. He can't hear us yet. >> I can't hear anything. He's not one
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thing. >> Look at this guy. Brian Cranston. >> Brian Cranston is a name you want to
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say. It feels good to say it. >> Your guy is >> Brian Cranston. Our whole goal is not to
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bore you. >> So, how's it going so far? Uh, I think we're, >> you know, I just watched your monologue
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of Brian Cranston, >> Brian Cranberry, >> the SNL mono. >> God.
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>> Oh, god. Thanks for coming on. You're a You know, you're you're Brian Cranston.
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When did you first realize that? Like, I'm [ __ ] Brian Cranston. >> Yeah. When do you put [ __ ] in it?
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>> When did you kind of go, "Hey, I'm Brian Cranston. I'm Brian Cranston. I'm Brian
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[ __ ] >> Cranston. >> I want to know the moment >> cuz we don't have a real structure here.
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>> Um I'm assuming sometime during Breaking Bad it must have hit you at some point.
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This is fantastic. This show's great and I'm I think I'm really killing it here.
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This is This is [ __ ] You know what I mean? It must have had a moment or maybe it was a gradual series of moments when
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I got in SNL. It worked out for me. I was sort of like, "Oh, wow. I'm actually
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on SNL and it's doing pretty well for me. So, the same kind of thing. Was that
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Was it there or was it Malcolm in the Middle? Was it Was it Seinfeld or I assume Breaking Bad?
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I'll let you talk. There you go. >> Yeah. You know, I mean, those uh elevations along the way when you're
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hoping that you have opportunity. I think I I started to talk to some young actors a while ago and also um those of
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us who have been around a while and I I I said I think I realized what it was when you first start out. you have
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tremendous ambition but low opportunity and right it's like sure you want to
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conquer everything but it's like the you're struggling to find an audition
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and and then if you get really lucky as we all have um I think the opportunities
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grow sometimes larger than the ambition and that's where I find myself now is is
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putting out the same amount of energy but going, "Oh my god." Okay, yes, I I I
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will read that script. I I I will get to that at some point. You know, I I instruct my agents now. I said, "Listen,
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please don't send me anything that you don't really love." >> Uh so, you know, let them do that work
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to be able to say, "Oh, this script is really, really great, so you should take
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a look at it." Um but I think it's a question I actually had for you, uh for
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both of you. Thank you. >> Can I do that? Can I turn it around? >> We love that.
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>> We like it better. Yeah, it's better for us. >> You know, the interesting thing of of
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when you feel like you've you've made it. When I was 25 years old, I got a job
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on a soap opera here in New York. And uh >> you know, it's churn, man. You're just
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one script, you do the script, you throw it out, read >> so hard. >> Next day, next day, next day, next day.
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It's it's a lot of churn that you're going through, but there was something
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about feeling like, "Oh man, I could do this. I feel like I can do this." And it
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was from that moment on at 25 that I've only worked as an actor since. And so I
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wanted to find out from you guys if that's the way you felt when you got on SNL. Did something click? Did you cross
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over a threshold that you went, "Holy [ __ ] this is it for me. David, uh, my answer would be it was
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such a slow grind. I think Dana popped quicker on SNL, but I I was doing standup, then I got on an HBO Young
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comedians, then I got on SNL, then I was a writer first, and so it took me to getting through SNL and having to make
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one more jump to something that worked because I wasn't quite solidified yet.
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Like, you can always make one misstep off SNL and you get one like free pass. Hey, we'll give you a movie. We'll give
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you a TV show or something. And if that doesn't work, to generate that heat again is so [ __ ] hard.
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>> And so I got to a sitcom and then when the sitcom started to work, that one old
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one, just shoot me. It was probably on around one years or something. >> But when that got to like year three, I
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started to breathe again and go, "Okay, this might be what I do." You know, I
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don't think I'm going back now. But uh when was yours, Dana? Cuz that was that
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was it took that long to be honest. Um, I bombed a lot, you know, I just started
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doing standup. There wasn't ground lanes or theater groups up in San Francisco in
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those days. So, I was doing standup, but I didn't find out until 10 years later,
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literally almost from my first set to getting SNL like, "Oh, this is where I
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belong." So, when I got on SNL and I'd done these characters as a standup and
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then I put the wig on and the dress with church and stuff, it was like, "This is
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this is really fun." and we'll talk about when you host it. But and also
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your LBJ which is I think is extraordinary. I was watching >> you do one of the best LBJs out there.
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>> Well, the only one where you >> you Fred Travalina and uh >> well he was doing it as an actor. I I
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mean I Hollywood wanted to use me. I I screen tested for Amadeas, >> you know. Um
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>> for real. >> Yeah. Yeah. I did a sitcom with Mickey Rooney and Nathan Lane in New York City.
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when I was 25 years of age at at at uh Studio 6A in Rockefeller Center and then eight years later I got on the there. So
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to answer your question shortly, it's like once I got in SNL, I felt like a fish in water like I really belong here,
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you know, and so that was uh that was it for me, you know. >> How old were you then, Dana?
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>> I was 51. Um, no. I I was I was 31 and my first set in a shitbox comedy club
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where these comedians came up and I I thought, well, they're not that great.
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It was a No, it was in Berkeley >> and I and I I scrolled on a nap. I do a
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Howard Coell, I do John Wayne, you know, and then a guy came up and levitated the
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room and it was Rob Williams. And then I crumpled the paper or the napkin, put it
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back in my pocket cuz I didn't know there was only one of him. But basically
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it was the classic 10 years of this. But the standups always have a baseline like
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a band. You just go back to the clubs, go to the theaters, do standup. So it's
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it's a nice little side job. So >> it is it's foundational for for you.
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>> I I did standup for about nine months. >> Oh boy. >> Back in 1988
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81. And uh I did it only because it scared the [ __ ] out of me. >> Yeah. >> I what you guys do was was something
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that terrified me. So I thought, "Ah, the only way I'm I'm ever going to get
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over this fear of it is to dive in." >> So I rose from being terrible to being
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mediocre in in those >> That's a big jump. >> Yeah, it's a big jump.
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>> It is in stand up. You're like, >> "It is big." consistently walking everyone
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>> do the job get >> consistent laughs you know >> was it New York
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>> it was in LA >> uh back in 81 when they had uh there were plays like the Playboy club was was
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there in Sentry City the Laugh Stop of course the comedy store and improv >> is laugh stop in Newport
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>> uh there was there was one in Newport right >> then there was one in the valley where I
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I had a great night Okay. Okay. >> I my best night was in in the valley. I
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did it, you know, about eight minutes or something and killed. I got in my car. I
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drove to the improv. I begged the guy, "You got to get me on." >> I'm on fire.
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>> I'm on fire. >> And he says, "Well, I can you stick around because someone may not show up."
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>> And so >> Oh, come on. You're blowing it, guy. >> I know. So I So he says, "I think I
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think what's his name?" is not going to show up. So, in about 45 minutes, you
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can go on. >> Okay. Okay. 45 minutes. 45 minutes. I walked around the block in that
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neighborhood. I walked around the block in that neighborhood doing my set just trying to recall it exactly as I did it
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that got such a great reaction >> and I felt great. And I got up. >> It wasn't the same.
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>> Not the same. >> It's so weird. Crowds are like fingerprints. They just they're all a
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little bit different. And then you go, I just was on the road and I'm like, one
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night these three jokes work the best, the next thing these three. So overall it's about the same, but you go why why
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didn't they bite on that? Did I say it wrong? Is a different attitude, different something about it. It just it
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didn't work. >> And you could you could drive yourself crazy trying to figure it out.
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>> Oh. Anyway, and I started I I I started turning down auditions because I
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was drinking too much, you know. I was in the clubs and and if I had a a good night, someone would offer me a drink.
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If I had a bad night, someone would offer me a drink. >> Oh, yeah. >> And like
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>> And they're all free, which is great. >> Yeah. And you're just going and then
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sleeping in until noon or one >> and turning down auditions. And finally, I just went, "Wait a minute. Wait a
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minute. What am I doing?" And I realized that what you guys had innately was not
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me. It was not in my being. I was trying to overcome a fear and all of a sudden I
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realized, wait a minute, I did that. Oh, let me go back to >> that was the point. Yeah, you did that.
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Which was a huge thing. >> I remember. >> But does it scare you with acting? Does
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it scare you or is it the fact you have a few takes so it's a little easier?
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Well, it's it's just a a different muscle, right? You you and you you're
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attracted to certain types of uh performing and you find something that you do well and it's, you know,
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inspiring. I I I didn't I didn't wake up thinking, "Oh, I've got to get on stage
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and try to tell this joke." Um, I I love being different people and getting into
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their skin and doing the research and figuring out what made that guy tick and why was he important and all that.
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>> So, are the police coming to your house right now? >> Yeah, we that's usually that's from our
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parent company. It's just saying pick up the podcast a little bit. It's a little
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bit of they put a siren in. a little bit like >> I I'm just curious for a second because
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um you become one of our great actors. Uh it sort of maybe happened secretly or whatever, but I know you would never put
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yourself probably with your your nature into the the people you watch growing up, you know, and then you realize you
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must realize at some point you're doing work as good or better than a lot of
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your heroes, right? I >> I'm talking I know what age group we're in. You know, there's the people die now
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would have loved you Jimmy Stewart I just so that's kind of surreal isn't it
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>> to realize that >> I I I still don't feel that I don't know
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maybe it's just the way I was raised but um there is that impostor syndrome that
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I think many people go through that you go wait a minute I don't I don't always
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know what I'm doing but people think I do like >> you can get away with a lot like, "Oh my
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god, >> your acting choices are like so genius." You know, I I forgot my line.
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>> It's throwing a dart. Yeah, that stutter you did. No, I was searching for the
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word. >> Yeah, I didn't remember. >> Oh, when you spaced out, when you looked
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off, you know, >> so real. >> When did Bob Odenk first come to you and
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go, "Oh, that was a great take. You're so You're killing it." Oh my god. So
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great. >> People are going to love it. >> Yeah, that's funny. >> That's so funny. We love you, Bob.
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>> When when he was hired for Breaking Bad, he hadn't seen the show yet. And I just
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ribbed him about that and go, "So, >> he got hired to be on a show and the
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episodes were readily available to you, but you chose >> readily >> you chose not to be." So, but he he uh
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he learned quickly and uh >> boy, what a what a a lovely thing that's happened to him, you know. Yeah. Um
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>> and I, you know, when he when he was offered uh Better Call Saul, he asked if
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if he can go out to lunch with me, and I said, "Sure." And he said, "I'm not that
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guy. I'm not the hey, follow me. I'll lead you to the promised land kind of
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guy." And I said, you know, I don't know that I was that either, but there is the
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need for that person to kind of take care to kind of be the dad of a of a company
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>> of a show >> of a show. You you're number one on a call sheet. It's kind of saying there it
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is for you to take if >> it's like quarterback. Yeah. They look up to you even whether you don't know
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you know it or not. >> Exactly. So I said there's there's a going to be a vacuum. if you don't take
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it, someone else will or it'll be taken up by someone who you don't necessarily
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think is is the right person, you know. So, it's, you know, just I said when I
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when I first started getting some comments of of my work, I used to push back. Hey, you're really good. No, you
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No, no. I used to say that, oh, you're a you're a really becoming a television
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star. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm just an actor. just and it I found it it
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did terrible things. First of all, it made the person wrong, >> which is not a good thing and feel bad.
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>> It forced them to to then continue the fight. >> More compliments.
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>> I mean, serious trick. >> So, what do you say now? >> Thank you.
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>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> That's it. >> You don't want to go on a set and be run
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by number nine on the call sheet. Well, can I let me ask you a question about the and I don't know exact I know the
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Malcolm in the middle of this and that but was you were the lead lead in Breaking Bad and you were in the flow
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all day long. I mean the the pacing of yourself but also when you're someone
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who comes in and does a guest spot or has one line you're waiting all day that's I mean you get into a flow right
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where you're just that character just for so many hours. Is it harder better?
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Obviously, it's how do you hand how do you handle the sheer exhaustion and do
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you get almost hypnotized even deeper into the into the world because you're
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just doing so much of it? >> Well, as you guys know this uh so for the listeners, it's it's basically you
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you find your rhythm when you're needed, when you can rest. You you develop a
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system of how and when you're going to rise to an occasion and when you can shut down a little bit. Um, but I always
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thought, and we've all been on shows where you have the the person coming on
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the show who has one line and they know nobody and they have to come in and nail
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that line and that's one of the hardest things to do. >> Yes. >> So, I would always try to greet every
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co-star, >> sabotage them. No, go ahead. and I and and just try to make them feel
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at ease because number one, it's the right thing to do to help this person, but number two, it it also helps your
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show that >> Yeah, they're very important. Those people that come in, >> it's really hard.
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>> It's so important to get they get it right and they're in a vibe that they
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don't know. They're just getting in the current going, "Are we playing
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everything like this?" And you're like, "No, no, no, no, no. We're all down
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here." Like, but they don't know. And then you're okay, let's make it all
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>> late in the day. All the makeup's kind of wearing down on the people have been
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filming all day long. The crew looks wasted. They're exhausted. They're coming in to land that line. Yeah, it's
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it's >> Yeah. They bring them in. You're up. It's like ah right before we wrap.
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>> Now just relax. Okay. Never thought of it. >> Think of that. Great. Yeah.
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>> But so you so how old were you when you really made it made it in your mind
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because you you struggled for a while. >> Yeah. you know, I I I I expected to
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struggle. So, I guess I didn't feel like I was struggling. >> Um, so >> after the soap opera, were you saying
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like that that was 25? So, you kind of consistently worked after that. So, that's really making it right.
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>> Very consistent after that. I've never had to do anything but act after that
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point. And that kind of um confidence going into whatever you're doing next is
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is brilliant. Um, and it was a savior. And then about 30, I guess 35 years ago or so, I stumbled
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upon a philosophy that I realized, oh, I was doing everything wrong. Um, I was uh I was thinking that an audition
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was a job interview and that uh because I'm an actor and they're casting for a
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movie or a TV show or something, that's that's a job. I'm going to go in to try
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to get something. And I realized by doing that you're putting you're giving
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up your energy and you're you're you're sending it away from you. And so I
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thought, oh, whenever anybody wants or needs something, they don't have control. They're giving up control
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because they need something. They need a job. They need validation. They need something. So I thought, "Oh, I'm just
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going to hold on to that. And I'm not going to want some. I'm going to give
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them something. I worked on this scene. I think I can do it, but you know, it's
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their option. Here, here's an idea. You take it. If that that works for you,
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fantastic. If it doesn't, we'll see you later. >> Oh, like we're 5050. I'm going in. This
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is good. You want my product? Take it. >> Exactly. >> Goodbye. >> And in the modern era,
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>> I like that >> you can audition with your phone or with a friend, which is kind of nice. Like,
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here's how I'd play it. You can see me. You know, a lot of people get roles that
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way as well. >> You can tweak it a little bit. That helps. I hated going in those rooms and
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I always bombed and it was horrible. I bombed in front of Paul Newman terribly and Joanne Woodward. God,
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>> what did you do? >> Holy [ __ ] >> Well, I I had no >> Paul Newman, the superstar.
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>> Take a [ __ ] in front of them or something. >> Were you there? >> I think Robbie Benson got the part. I
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had no training. I I you know, at all. I was just a standup and so acting terrified me. So I went in, they put us
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off in pairs, they auditioned. So I went with a lovely young woman. We read the scene. I was all over the place. I knew
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I was bombing. Joanne Wood was there with the dog. Paul Newman with red socks. Really tall red socks.
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>> Red socks. >> And then Paul Newman was so sweet. We just bombed. >> And then he he spent 10 minutes saying,
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"Well, I appreciated that." He was just so nice about it, but the air was thick.
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And so I walked out with my partner. I just I just met and I said, "Well, that
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didn't go well." And she was like, "Yeah, >> yeah, it didn't go well, did it?" You
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know, I mean, I really ruined her audition. >> Yeah. >> So, anyway, what you just said, I hope I
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hope young actors listen to that that you're just showing them something. You're not really trying to get a job.
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>> It's it's the the difference is >> do not go in there to get a job. Go in
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there to do a job. >> Yeah. >> That's it. If you can just say, "This is
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my job. I'm gonna create something. It's either funny or it's it's appropriate to
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this character. Here's my idea. There it is. >> Yeah. >> If you like it, great. If you don't,
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that's a >> I like that you don't look so desperate and thirsty. >> Desperation.
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>> That's my my angle is desperate and thirsty because when I would go in, I
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would try to joke them. I didn't know what I was doing. So, this is Dana probably does too. We spend eight
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minutes talking about the 405 and how the crazy drive and then they're laughing and then I read it and everyone
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stops laughing and goes, "Oh, forget Well, that happened to me. >> I'm trying to win him over with the
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meeting. >> I made Suzanne Pushette laugh so hard. I sp I had 15 minutes. I'm doing Boy, I'm
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doing everything. And well, let's Oh, I'm excited to hear you read. And then
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it was just dead silence. And you know, I mean, so, um, I'm just curious. I thought again, I'm curious
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about our guest today. I think I heard you say at one point that I'm just gonna
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do this show business. This is you made a decision wherever it goes. I'm just
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going to do this. And what what was that? After the soap opera, you went back to
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>> No, no. I was uh I was actually going to to a junior college in LA. I had no
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money. So, I was studying police science. I was going to become a cop. And uh >> detective,
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>> you look like you could play a detective. >> Yeah, you look pretty cool.
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>> We'll get to that. You must have played a cop or detective. >> I played Yeah. played lots of cops. Um
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and and I I didn't know what to do. So, I was going to become a cop and transfer
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to a university to finish before I went into the LAPD. That was the general plan. But my second year of this junior
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college, I took an acting class and in the class, my job was to kiss this really pretty girl. I am
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>> making out with this pretty girl and I'm thinking, "Oh my god,
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this is amazing." >> And so after after that semester, now I'm 19 and I went, I have no idea what I
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want to do. That just spun me out of control. Uh and so I I hopped on a motorcycle and traveled around the
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country for a couple years getting jobs and odd jobs and >> yeah just well no I was so confused. So
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in a way at the time I felt like I was running away and I suppose I was because I didn't know what it was I wanted to
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put all my energy in. And it wasn't until I was I was on the Blue Ridge Parkway of Virginia waiting out a
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rainstorm on my motorcycle underneath a a picnic covered um picnic bench with a slab of cement and me. And I stayed
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there for like five days because it just never stopped raining. And it was at that time I had this
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epiphany that okay I am going to go after something that I really feel I can be in love with but I wasn't necessarily
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good at yet. U as opposed to something I was good at which was police work but I
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didn't love it. And so that was the distinction to me and I thought okay here it goes. I'm going all in. There's
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no >> God that's ballsy too. One of them is like a set job and the other one is
00:25:05
iffy. very very iffy >> and will always remain that way too. When when did you first get a without
00:25:11
giving numbers a check where you kind of went, "Holy shit," you know, compared to
00:25:16
regular, you know, I was a waiter, a bus boy, dishwasher, all the all the rest. But, you know, like, wow, that's
00:25:21
amazing. They're actually I love this and they're paying me a lot of money to
00:25:26
do it. It's very heady thing. Well, n I I was doing some community theater and
00:25:32
somers stock and dinner theater and stuff like that, but it was in 1979 is when I got my SAG card and started
00:25:40
working and making a living. And I did commercials and I did industrial films and whatever would pay the the rent and
00:25:48
and all that stuff. That's you know, >> it was fun. >> When did you get paid too much money?
00:25:54
When did you want to give some of it back? Because clearly this is wrong. There there are there are some of those
00:26:00
jobs now that you say no no no wait what you want >> what did you get for Godzilla 2017
00:26:09
>> what did you get we don't ask >> no we don't you don't answer that
00:26:13
question I'm sorry >> I do know that you know I I did when I was coming up I I worked uh did voices
00:26:21
for the um Power Rangers I did so many voices for the Power Rangers that They renamed when they changed all the names
00:26:30
from a Japanese name to Americanized sounding names. They said, "Uh, why don't we name the blue power ranger
00:26:38
Cranston?" Billy Cranston, not Brian. Billy, do you mind? And I said, "I don't
00:26:42
mind." We didn't think it was going to go anywhere. And it goes everywhere. So,
00:26:46
the blue power ranger Billy Cranston is is named after me because we did I did so many of those those voices.
00:26:53
>> Let's go team. >> Let's go. Never defeat me. I will kill you.
00:26:59
>> Oh, I love it. >> You've kind of done everything, haven't
00:27:03
you? Voiceovers, sitcoms, movies, theater. >> It's you you you you have to expand your
00:27:12
ability to work or else you're really narrowing the field, I think, man. Right.
00:27:22
>> Well, I think you're in this new Phoenician. Is that correct? >> The Phoenician scheme.
00:27:26
>> Phoenician. >> Phoenician scheme which is uh very interesting movies which I will see this one because
00:27:34
>> you're in it and we're buddies now but also because just those are so cool
00:27:38
those movies um that he does. >> He is uh Wes Anderson is probably the most untexonike Texan you've ever met.
00:27:48
>> Yeah. >> He's very Natalie dressed. He's very he's very ariodite and polite and
00:27:54
>> and worldly and uh he he it's not to say let me clarify it's not to say that
00:28:01
Texans can't also be that but >> sure the sensibility send all your letters to yeah to David
00:28:11
um but uh you know and so I've done this is the third project I've done Wes
00:28:16
Anderson and he's uh it's brilliant he's such an aur You cannot go into it thinking, "Oh, I
00:28:24
know where he's going to twist this or turn that." It's like he blows your mind
00:28:28
with where bananas where he goes with stuff. Yeah. It's crazy. >> I think I saw that last one, maybe Astro
00:28:34
something with Scarlett Johansson. >> Asteroid City. >> Yeah. Yeah. Asteroid City. And uh went
00:28:39
and saw the theater. It was so fun and so cool and it just like wakes you up like, "Okay, here's a movie. Okay, pay
00:28:44
attention." Like everything, set dressings, everything. Very good. He did a great job. Um, and uh, I love Bonicho
00:28:52
also. Bonicho in this one. What a >> cool guy. I've run into him along the
00:28:57
way here and there, but >> what are your thoughts? Mysterious co-star. >> Yeah.
00:29:02
>> Give us some Bonichio. >> So Tom Hanks and I uh, play brothers. We
00:29:06
play brothers in the Phoenician scheme and we are shooting this in Germany. And so we go over to Germany and we're in
00:29:14
every scene together. So we're rehearsing together and stuff and and we had basically in this in this movie
00:29:22
Phoenician scheme it's kind of light lift for us >> but Benio has a [ __ ] ton of dialogue
00:29:29
very specific very Wes Anderson you know the way it's carved and moved it's like wow and uh so we I was just
00:29:40
saying if there's anything I could do for you man you let me know because >> you're carrying the load here. And he
00:29:47
would just nod and look and he would cram and uh so it's challenging work because of the fact that he is so
00:29:55
specific >> and his in his shooting style and his symmetry of his of his camera angles and
00:30:01
everything. It's it's uh it's amazing. But the film works. Venetian scheme
00:30:06
really does work. >> Those things I've already heard people that have seen it immediately. Of
00:30:10
course. >> Yeah. You can tell it's it's one person is making the movie. I mean, Sam, I know
00:30:15
that he's uh it just sort of hit me researching that sometimes he collaborates with Roman Copa.
00:30:22
>> Yeah. >> Um and I did a commercial with Chvy Chase and Molly Chan, whatever for a
00:30:28
phone company and Roman was directing it and he had an immaculate suit on and he
00:30:33
was such a gentleman. It was just very interesting to watch him do that. And uh so when I saw him
00:30:40
connected to Wes Anderson, there is an eloquence about them. >> That is a type of director out there.
00:30:46
Also, it's nice to be in a movie, Brian, where >> they're not just like, "Who do we get to
00:30:51
direct this?" You know, because it's going to look so specific to a director when he does it.
00:30:58
You just watch the trailer and you go, "Oh, that's okay. That's what that is."
00:31:02
You know, and that's that pulls people right in, I think. And to be an actor to
00:31:05
be in it would be what a blast. >> It's cool. I mean there is some pressure
00:31:09
B like when we were shooting Asteroid City in Spain. >> Uh >> oh that was Spain.
00:31:15
>> It was shot in Spain for the California desert. >> Yeah the California Nevada desert.
00:31:23
>> But I believed it. >> He work he >> Wes lives in Paris most the time. So and
00:31:29
he doesn't like to fly. So he takes his his big bus coach that he has all decked
00:31:35
out and he travels that way. So, >> he usually stays on the continent. >> God, what a what a life. He's in Paris
00:31:41
with a bus and he has complete control over his work and he gets like 10 superstars.
00:31:48
>> Yeah. >> So, the budget for the acting I heard Hank's got 20 million for this one or is
00:31:54
that >> what exaggerated? >> Oh, interesting. Well, that's >> how does he manage because you're doing
00:32:00
it for the love of the art. I mean, is it right and he gets just the greatest Bill Murray and you guys? Yeah, we we
00:32:06
all make the same amount of money. >> And I honestly can't even tell you what
00:32:11
that is, but I know it's not much. >> Yeah, it's like >> I I I believe it's just more like if he
00:32:15
wants you in, you do it. >> That's such a great thing that he has. It obviously must be just a hell of a
00:32:21
nice person to you want to be around. >> And it's a great hang because there are
00:32:26
no trailers. You all go and you're in um one like really souped up kind of tent
00:32:33
with the rugs and and nice comfortable chairs and >> floor lamps and and you know and and
00:32:40
everybody just kind of hangs out together and you go in >> uh you only work usually about eight
00:32:46
hours or nine hours a day. That's it. And within reason. Then at night, every
00:32:52
night there's a long rectangular table and all the actors and all the department heads and the writers and
00:32:58
producers and Wes, we all have dinner together every single night with wine and all kinds of
00:33:06
>> So where do you watch porn? That's my >> Where? How? >> Why not? Where? How? Who has to ask
00:33:11
someone? It's so embarrassing. Can we do it at dinner? Do we have to wait? >> I do anyway. You know,
00:33:16
>> yeah, you'll you know, you'll figure it out. How do you personally or I guess
00:33:20
it's project like to be directed? You know, do you like a soft touch? You like
00:33:24
someone in your face cranston, I don't believe a word you're saying. I don't
00:33:28
get it. >> Or does Wes Anderson kind of just sort of wander around and sort of give you
00:33:34
subtle notes or you like it all? I mean, >> the the first first day I worked on
00:33:39
Asteroid City, I had a quite a a large uh speech to give and um and I got through it in his tricky dialogue and I
00:33:50
thought I did pretty well and he did too. He came to me and he said, "Yes, Brian, that was that was very very good.
00:33:56
Now, I just need it much much much faster." And it was like, oh, >> oh,
00:34:04
>> to hear that it was like, oh my god. So, you're you're going so fast you don't
00:34:09
even hear yourself. You don't even think you're thinking and you're and getting it out. Um, so the work is
00:34:17
the work is challenging. >> It's hard with dialogue. People forget you're memorizing. It's so hard to get
00:34:23
every word right, especially if you're working for a writer director and you go
00:34:26
>> I've had one where he came back and he said, "You were great. You missed this
00:34:29
one word here. Let's go again. And I go one word. It was like one word that didn't change anything.
00:34:36
>> Yeah. >> But that's the way I wrote it. I go, "Got it."
00:34:39
>> You said Lact instead of B. >> Exactly. Oh, I hate that. That's why I
00:34:43
hated movies cuz you go in the morning for the master shot and then you're you're in your closeup eight hours later
00:34:48
and the script supervisor says, "No, your elbow was on top of the chair." Oh,
00:34:55
really? I mean that's why have you have you done um movies where it's like a
00:34:59
moving master minimal shooting um that kind of freedom? >> Yeah. Yeah. And actually you know I
00:35:05
don't know if you remember this Dana but we worked together. >> Why? >> Whoa.
00:35:11
>> I remember running into you at Letterman right? >> Well we've done that but no like Dave
00:35:17
>> was I first on the call sheet. Where was I? >> Yes sir you were. >> Was I nice
00:35:22
opportunity knocks? Yeah, kind of. No, it wasn't that. >> Clean Slate.
00:35:27
>> Clean Slate. >> Whoa. You were in that that movie. That's your
00:35:33
probably your lowest grossing movie. >> No, that's great. >> I'm so sorry. If I could write you a
00:35:38
check, a do a Venmo. Where are you? >> I I uh I played the very pivotal role of
00:35:44
club official. >> Yeah. >> Dana, what would that be? Do you remember? We were at We were in Santa
00:35:52
Monica at on the beach at a club, >> right? And and >> I don't remember anything else.
00:36:00
>> Not a thing. >> Dana doesn't remember Santa Monica. >> I don't remember a thing. So I play a
00:36:05
character with amnesia. It was terrible. Went to this acting coach and and his theory was you don't you don't have
00:36:12
amnesia. Your character is pretending to have amnesia, but you don't. Your character does not
00:36:19
have amnesia. He >> Was that real from the movie? >> This is Roy London. God rest his soul.
00:36:24
He's this great actor. So that was his way of getting you out of your own way.
00:36:28
So then there was a guy um playing a blind person. We were filming at the beach and he had the stick and he's
00:36:35
playing a blind person and I say I said to him um you know I I I don't really
00:36:40
have amnesia. I'm just pretending. and he goes, "I'm not really blind." He'd
00:36:44
gone to the same acting coach, you know, whatever. I just fig I'm But uh uh yeah, that was uh that was
00:36:55
ridiculous. That was me making a foolish choice right off of SNL. I had way too much heat, no experience, and um I wish
00:37:03
I could take it back. If we could have switched in that you became the lead and I was guard number one, it might have
00:37:11
had a chance. >> No, I was club official. >> Oh, club official. >> God, Wikipedia sucks sometimes. Oh my
00:37:19
god. >> That was written by uh Robert King, by the way. Robert King. >> He's great.
00:37:24
>> I've worked with since. Yeah. I was partners with him on on a series called
00:37:28
Your Honor, >> and he's terrific. >> That's a great show. I've never seen
00:37:33
I've never seen you bad. I don't know if you like >> Oh, you were kind of bad.
00:37:38
>> Let's see. What was um What was I? >> It was the one we circled.
00:37:42
>> No, but by the way, >> when I heard >> Amalgam in the Middle reboot. Is it
00:37:50
That's right. What is it on? What is on Disney Plus? >> It's going to be on Disney. Yeah, they
00:37:54
since they bought out Fox, we were originally owned by Fox. >> Oh, yeah. How do they do that? And so
00:38:00
now we're owned by Disney and uh they bought four episodes of this >> reboot. Uh I didn't think it reboot.
00:38:09
It's it's something I was trying I was pushing for for the last 10 years
00:38:14
because I thought that that audience >> that was that hard. Wow. >> Well be fun.
00:38:20
>> No. Lynwood Boomer who is the creator of the show when I first pitched it to him
00:38:25
he said no I'm not interested. No. About a year and a half later, I said, "What
00:38:29
about it?" He goes, "No, I I really don't think it's something I want to
00:38:32
do." >> And I went, "Really? It's starting to improve." And then a third one, the
00:38:38
third time, three years after that, it was like, "Well, I, you know, if someone
00:38:41
else wrote it, maybe I'll look at it." And I just started wearing him down
00:38:46
until he said, "I've got an idea." And I said, "Good. >> Love it. Go get it.
00:38:51
>> Love it." >> So, we just finished it. We shot that uh a month ago. And uh it's amazing how
00:38:59
these boys who were my boys on that show are now around the same age I was when we first started.
00:39:07
>> Oh no. Really? >> They've got children of their own. >> There's a kid on there named Eric. Is
00:39:13
there? >> Yeah. Eric >> Sullivan. >> Yeah. Eric Pur Sullivan >> played uh little Joe Dirt in an old
00:39:20
movie. I did. >> That's right. >> He played me as a kid. Now, now David,
00:39:23
did you remember that or or now that you were doing the research? >> I didn't. I remembered he was on it that
00:39:29
back then. He's really cute and funny and he walked on a little cowboy boots
00:39:32
and uh >> in the movie, >> but now that you say it again, I'm like,
00:39:36
"Oh, that's right. He's probably, you know, older now." But >> he is the only one who's not who didn't
00:39:43
come back to act in the show. >> Oh, for real? >> Yeah. I talked to Eric and I I said,
00:39:49
"Hey, we got the show. It's going to come back." He goes, "Oh, that's
00:39:52
fantastic." And I go, "Yeah, so we're looking forward to having you back." He
00:39:56
goes, "Oh, no, no. I I don't want to do it, but it's fantastic."
00:40:01
>> Yeah, because he's >> he's actually going to Harvard. And
00:40:05
>> he's a normal person now. >> Well, I I don't think he's he's not
00:40:08
normal because he's really not in my circle normal. He's he's really really smart and he's getting I
00:40:16
think he's getting his masters at Harvard right now. He said, "Oh god, no.
00:40:20
I haven't acted since I was nine or something, so I'm I'm not into it."
00:40:26
Yeah. >> Wow. Because he's like, "It just makes us all feel so dumb that we're actors."
00:40:32
>> He's like, "I don't want to go do that stupid [ __ ] again." We're like, "No,
00:40:36
it's pretty smart what we do." And like, no, not really. >> It's not that hard.
00:40:43
>> Oh, cool, though. Pick a topic. Okay. um SNL you hosted. >> Oh god.
00:40:50
>> And and uh just because it was all over the place a couple years ago during the
00:40:54
strike that just the idea of AI and robots integrating with our in industry and where it seems to be going is
00:41:02
fascinating to me because we keep seeing these >> digital short films by Alphabet Google
00:41:08
where you're like you know what what the hell. I mean it's getting surreal. We
00:41:13
are actually digital copies right now. I just want to be full disclosure, but it
00:41:17
is kind of bizarre, isn't it? Just to watch the future, right? >> It is. It just feels like something a
00:41:25
little impersonal. But um you know, I I remember it so fondly and being invited to host at that time when Breaking Bad
00:41:36
was at its >> you know, peak and uh I immediately said yes. And >> it's such a rush. I mean, I know you
00:41:45
guys have talked about this on the podcast before and everyone's experience, but it was it was incredible
00:41:51
and how how deep dive involved you are in every moment of that and that, >> you know, from the from the first time
00:42:00
I'm sitting in in Lauren's office in that chair in the middle and everybody
00:42:05
all the writers are on the floor and behind the curtains and things and and every I thought the pitches that were
00:42:12
going on that first day, that Monday were actually supposed to be sincere. It was like some of them are
00:42:19
>> some most are fake pitches. >> Yeah, most I just want to say this
00:42:23
because it'll be rejected and let it die a cold death. >> Someone said, "Uh, okay. So, you're a
00:42:30
barista at Starbucks and you finish your drink and you call out Trevor. Trevor ice mocha uh latte. Trevor.
00:42:44
Trevor. And no one ever shows up. That's that that was his pitch. >> That's the whole pitch.
00:42:51
>> That was the whole pitch. I went, >> I bet this is going to be a long week.
00:42:57
>> Yeah. People think of that at Starbucks on the way to the meeting. They're like,
00:43:01
cuz they have I think the problem is you end the show Saturday, you don't wake up
00:43:05
until Sunday at 3:00 in the afternoon. You do your laundry and then you're in
00:43:08
front of Brian Cranson. You're like, I haven't I will think of something for
00:43:11
him. I just have not. >> I would say a guy walks up and says his name is Trevu. Trevu. No, not Trevor.
00:43:17
Trevor. And then another guy walks up. Taniv. No, Trevor. Trevor. >> I'm Trevor.
00:43:22
>> Travu. I'm just trying to complete this. >> We can write it. We'll write it.
00:43:25
>> Lauren will be listening to this. We'll have him back, you know, after, you
00:43:29
know, the uh the Wes Anderson kick. >> We'll get good numbers with the Malcolm.
00:43:35
We What do they have nicknames for Malcolm in the Middle Fanatics like Malcolinites or Middlers?
00:43:42
>> They probably do, but I I don't >> I don't I'm not aware of that stuff yet.
00:43:46
I don't >> So, what were you what was your monologue like? Did you when you were
00:43:56
coming out there? Did you have a strong one? >> I did. I did have some ideas and John
00:44:02
Melany is wrote it. I remember that guy. Did >> he do that barbershop kind of quartet
00:44:08
one or whatever you did? >> Yes. The singing. >> That's right. The barberh shop kind of.
00:44:11
And he said, u you know, what if we take the the point of view that uh people kind of know you but they don't really
00:44:19
know you? And I said, "Yeah, okay." He's like, because I was getting that, "Oh,
00:44:25
you're the guy from Malcolm and the you're the dad. You're the guy. You're
00:44:28
the guy." It wasn't >> associating name with face. Breaking Bad was on at that time, right? Yeah. Still
00:44:35
kind of going up. >> You're kind of that guy. Oh, you're Wolf. >> You're the guy from Breaking Bad,
00:44:39
>> right? The guy from Breaking Bad. And it's not until someone actually knows
00:44:44
your name connected to your face >> that you go, "Okay, things have changed." Which which goes back to your
00:44:50
original question, Dan, >> is that that's when you go, "Oh, things
00:44:54
have changed." Uh, but we did Yeah, we we did the monologue and I I I just wanted to do anything. Uh, I had a
00:45:03
couple pitches for them which I pitched ideas which were almost immediately shot
00:45:09
down. >> Shut down. Shot down. Shut down. >> I had a great pitch which I think
00:45:15
>> I'm a circus clown and do you remember the pitch? >> I do remember the pitch.
00:45:20
>> Well, let's hear it and let's see if it's really that bad. We'll grade it 1
00:45:24
to 10. So, uh, myself and a date and and another couple, we can't believe we got
00:45:32
reservations for this restaurant. It's supposed to be amazing. It's called All
00:45:37
in the Sauce. And it's like, wow. And this very snoody waiter comes in and says, "Are you ready? We can we see a
00:45:44
menu?" "No, we don't give menus. We serve you food. You eat the food, you
00:45:47
leave." You know, it's like, "Oh, okay. Yes, yes, yes." And he said, "It's all
00:45:51
about the sauce." So he puts down a crudeet and we dip it in the sauce and it's like, "Oh my god, just amazing."
00:45:58
Crudeet is taken away. Here comes the the entree. You're eating the entree. We're eating. Oh my god, this sauce is
00:46:05
absolutely insane. We're overeing. We eat too much. We throw up. We dip the barf in the sauce. Oh my god, it's
00:46:15
>> okay. It's all about the sauce. It's like no matter no matter what you're
00:46:19
eating, as long as >> What's in the sauce? Do we know? >> No. I like it's in the sauce. It's in
00:46:23
the sauce. >> What if it's soil and green at the end? >> It's It's like you you know you have a
00:46:27
severed finger and you dip it in the sauce and >> whatever. I I got you. Yeah.
00:46:31
>> Still good. >> Still good. >> That didn't get past Monday meeting.
00:46:35
>> Yeah, it didn't get past Monday. Now, I truncated that pitch now. It goes much
00:46:39
longer. >> I can do a longer version. Sauteed pig snout to take a bite. Oh, this is
00:46:46
horrible. Oh yeah. >> Dip in sauce. >> Yeah. Get everyone to come in with a
00:46:51
funny accent. You're halfway there. >> Yeah. >> Did you get to play uh big big broad
00:46:56
accents Italian? What? Get that out of your system and just because you have a great ear. I mean
00:47:03
>> you you know it's like that >> your your listeners know the system now.
00:47:08
So I mean Tuesday is the big writing overnight and then Wednesday the binder the binder of 60 sketches. Terrifying.
00:47:15
And each writer is can can I talk to you a second? Okay, now you're a pirate.
00:47:19
You're a pirate and you're >> there's absolutely no system. They just
00:47:22
grab you and >> they just grab you. You're a pirate. You're you know and and so
00:47:27
you're you're just making big choices, you know. Okay, I'm going to do a New
00:47:32
York accent, a southern accent, an English accent. I'm a pirate. I'm a baseball player. Just, you know, and so
00:47:38
I don't know what I was doing. It was just one after another after another and
00:47:42
it's dizzying as you know. And then but but you know he's weighing Lauren kind
00:47:47
of knows what he wants already >> and then uh and then I'm shuttled into
00:47:52
the room. >> Uh Seth Yeah, kind of. >> Secret Lauren's office brings you in.
00:48:00
>> Seth and Steve came in. >> Steve Higgin Seth >> Steve Higgins. Yeah. and Seth and we're
00:48:05
we're looking at the board and he's and Lawrence saying, "Well, >> is there any particular
00:48:12
sketch that you felt connected to?" And I said, "Yeah, that uh this other one,
00:48:17
this longer met one." Yeah, that's not as strong as this one, though. You know,
00:48:24
he hoped you agree and then he like, "No, actually, you're wrong."
00:48:27
>> Um, what you just picked uh would never work. Um, if yours one better. Oh,
00:48:33
you're a novice. It's not your fault, but we'll take care of it. >> Is there anyone you don't like? That'll
00:48:38
be the >> Marcy. Any more popcorn? Don't bother. >> Brian, he's starving. Help him.
00:48:45
>> He f But yeah, I mean, it is uh there's nothing like it. We've It's been called
00:48:49
an athletic event on this show by some people, like a sporting event. >> It's tactile. It's It's uh
00:48:57
>> high r I I don't know. I mean, just we got to get you back on. I want to
00:49:01
co-host with you and David. >> Yeah, >> I would love to go back on because it
00:49:06
is, you know, Steve Higgins said uh there's two things I I two pieces of advice I can give you
00:49:12
>> and I and I had known Steve before because I worked with his brothers Al
00:49:17
Higgins and David Higgins who were connected to Malcolm. Al was one of the writers of Malcolm. Dave Higgins was one
00:49:24
of the actors on the show. Um, so Steve says two things. Fir first and foremost,
00:49:29
trust the cards. >> Don't think you can go off the cards and I got this. I know what it is because
00:49:35
they're constantly changing. Cues are changing. Lines are ch Trust the cards.
00:49:40
And second, >> don't try to be perfect. Allow it to not be perfect. Allow it to be
00:49:46
>> wherever it's going to go. >> It's part of the fun. Yeah.
00:49:49
>> Yeah. And so I took it that advice. And I think by doing so, I mean, I had a
00:49:54
blast. And man, that 90 minutes was over in it felt like >> two seconds. >> It felt like, you know, 85 minutes. It
00:50:03
was amaz. >> Yeah. The energy that comes because you gra you're going when you host that
00:50:10
show, you're pretty wiped out by the time the dress and all this stuff and you're coming out and you're like, damn.
00:50:16
And then of course it just it just comes when you need it. As soon as you hear that
00:50:19
>> and it's adrenaline. >> Yeah. And then to hear Don for the first
00:50:23
time, I'm backstage at that door with the facade and people are scribbling their names on the thing is and you're
00:50:30
waiting behind the door and I was standing there going, "Oh my god, I'm
00:50:34
about to host Saturday Night Live." >> Oh my god. And I just I just took a
00:50:41
couple deep breaths and then I hear Don Partardo's voice going and host Brian
00:50:47
Quinland, you know, and I went that freaked me out and the door opens and out we go. And it
00:50:54
was Oh god. Like shot out of a cannon. >> Yeah. >> Well, Brian, before you go, I definitely
00:51:01
want to tell you it's great. First of all, great to have you. And second of all,
00:51:05
>> to have a line like um I won't get it exactly right, but that scene when you
00:51:09
say, "I am the danger." Everyone knows it. Everyone talks about it's great to
00:51:13
have a show. It's already everyone's all over it, but then to have such a cool
00:51:19
thing. What a blast. >> I It It possessed me. I was completely possessed by that show and the acting
00:51:28
and Aaron Paul. All of it was just so new and different. I try to think cuz I was talking to someone I got Sopranos,
00:51:37
Breaking Bad, you know, when they say television's better than movies, you know, like
00:51:41
>> to be up in that category. >> I thought Ozarks was really good. There's been a lot of other shows, but I
00:51:46
can for sure say Sopranos, Breaking Bad, like if you have people haven't seen
00:51:51
Sopranos, you got to watch that. Haven't seen Breaking Bad, you got to watch
00:51:54
that. And I think they're seinal. I think >> they're some The Wire also is
00:51:59
>> The Wire is another one. There are others >> where it's like not arguable. People
00:52:04
like, "Okay, okay." >> It almost didn't happen for me either.
00:52:07
Um, we were we were finishing Malcolm in the Middle seventh season and Fox said,
00:52:14
"Keep all the sets up. We might pick it up for an eighth season." Then they
00:52:19
turned around and a month later said in May of ' 06, "No, we had a good pilot
00:52:24
season, so we're we're done with Malcolm. Thank you very much." We're all
00:52:27
a little disappointed. It would have been it would have been fun. But later that year is when Vince Gilligan wanted
00:52:34
to see me for for Breaking Bad. And we shot the pilot for Breaking Bad in February and March of ' 07.
00:52:42
Had Malcolm in the Middle gone that eighth year. >> I'm not doing Breaking Bad. Someone else
00:52:48
is. >> Wow. >> So, it's I try to tell that to to young actors all the time to say luck has a
00:52:54
weird way of working. So just when something happens that you think is bad luck, it may be putting you in a
00:53:00
position to have better luck. You don't know. >> Yeah, that's I love Paul Newman for a
00:53:06
lot of reasons, you know, his charitable work, but he always people would try to
00:53:09
go how great and cool and Luke and how great you are. >> He goes, it comes down to one thing,
00:53:14
dumb luck. You know, whether that's completely true or not, but you know, there is whimsy whimsy to this life and
00:53:21
whimsical things happen in show business. You never know. But you still should not have taken a [ __ ] on his Red
00:53:28
Sox. >> No, that's crazy, D. >> That was that was a mistake. >> I know. But I did have a dream last
00:53:35
night. I'll leave you with this. I had a dream last night cuz I thought of you as
00:53:38
in a way like archetypal like you could you could have been an actor from the 40s and 50s or whatever just because of
00:53:45
who you how you look. You're timeless in a way. And Henry Fonda came to me in the dream.
00:53:52
And I said, "Well, what do you think of these young actors?" is Brian Cranston.
00:53:55
He said, "Well, he's as good as anybody's ever been. He sure knows his
00:54:00
way around a camera. Would have loved to have done a movie with Brian Cranston."
00:54:05
And then I woke up, you know, I said to my wife, I I just heard Henry Fonda talking about Brian Cranston. So, I just
00:54:11
wanted to do that for you. >> Thank you. >> No one asked me to do Henry Fonda
00:54:15
anymore. No, >> that's a perfect Henry Fonda. Unfortunately, you got to be 60 to to to
00:54:21
know who he They only remember Jimmy Stewart. They don't remember Spencer Tracy, Carrie Grant. It's Jimmy Stewart
00:54:27
because of the Christmas movie. >> It's a Wonderful Life. >> Ryan looks like a little bit like
00:54:32
Springsteen today. >> Oh, don't you think a little bit? >> He does look a little bit There's an
00:54:38
underbite there. >> Got an underbite. Yeah, >> I like >> All right. Thank you, buddy.
00:54:44
>> All right. It's just such a pleasure and uh good luck and everything and um I'm
00:54:50
going to go see this Wes Anderson picture. >> I'm going to see this >> Phoenician scheme.
00:54:54
>> The Phoenician scheme scheme and we got Malcolm coming out soon. I love it all.
00:54:58
>> Yep. >> Thanks, guys. >> Okay, bud. >> Have a good day.
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