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World's Most Evil Killers - Season 1, Episode 14 - Jeffrey Dahmer - Full Episode

July 28, 2021 / 43:22

This episode covers the life and crimes of Jeffrey Dahmer, including his early years, psychological background, and the details of his murders. It features insights from journalists and law enforcement officials involved in the case.

Jeffrey Dahmer, a notorious serial killer, murdered 17 young men between 1978 and 1991. The episode begins with the shocking encounter between police and Dahmer's potential victim, leading to the discovery of body parts in his apartment.

Anne E. Schwartz, the first journalist at the crime scene, describes Dahmer's apartment as deceptively normal at first glance. The episode discusses Dahmer's troubled childhood, his fascination with death, and his eventual descent into murder.

Milwaukee District Attorney Mike McCann reflects on Dahmer's evil nature and the public's reaction to the grisly details of his crimes. The episode also highlights Dahmer's psychological struggles and the factors that led to his violent behavior.

The narrative culminates in Dahmer's arrest, trial, and eventual sentencing, emphasizing the impact of his actions on the community and the lasting legacy of his horrific crimes.

TL;DR

Jeffrey Dahmer's life, crimes, and psychological background are detailed, revealing his transformation into a notorious serial killer.

Episode

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-Shortly before midnight on July the 22nd, 1991,
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two Milwaukee police officers were flagged down
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in their patrol car by a man with a pair of handcuffs
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dangling from one wrist.
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The police had no idea that this bizarre encounter
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would lead to the arrest
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of one of the most prolific serial killers in U.S. history.
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-That night people were afraid.
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People were whispering under their breaths,
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you know, it was the devil.
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It's the devil.
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-The man had escaped from a small one-bedroom apartment
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on North 25th Street.
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When the officers went to investigate,
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they found themselves in a living nightmare.
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-They saw the body parts and then one of the officers
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said he heard a scream.
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Then he realized later he was the one who screamed
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when he saw the body.
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-Without detection, 31-year-old Jeffrey Dahmer
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had killed 17 young men across a 13-year period.
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-He hasn't got the same level of repulsion and shock
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at dead bodies or mutilated bodies that most of us have.
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It was just another aspect of his life.
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-Jeffrey Dahmer had etched his name in history
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as one of the world's most evil killers.
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The name Jeffrey Dahmer has become synonymous with evil.
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Between 1978 and 1991 he killed 17 young men and boys
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by drugging them before strangling them to death.
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As the revelations of the murders came to light,
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it was the behavior of Dahmer once he'd killed his victims
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that really stunned the world
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with stories of necrophilia and cannibalism.
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The first journalist to arrive at the crime scene
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was Anne E. Schwartz.
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-It wasn't a gory crime scene.
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It was really quite antiseptic.
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It was a very simple one-bedroom with a kitchen
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and a living room.
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And it looked like a regular single guy lived there.
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You know some dishes in the sink, but by and large,
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this was not some chamber of horrors
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like people will describe it.
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Certainly, not at first look.
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Once detectives and officers started searching further,
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that's when they found out the actual horror
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was in that apartment.
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-The story of this macabre killer begins 30 years
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before his arrest.
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Jeffrey Dahmer was born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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on May the 21st, 1960.
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The family moved to Iowa before settling in Ohio in 1966.
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-He lived with these parents who were constantly,
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constantly as he put it "at each other's throats."
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You know, his mother appeared to have been
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this raging bundle of neurotic behavior.
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Parents were constantly fighting and screaming.
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You know, Dahmer himself evidently throughout much
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of his early life
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was completely, completely ignored by both of them.
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They were so caught up in their own psychological turmoil.
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-Jeffrey Dahmer never really made close social links
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with any of his peers.
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He was a little bit odd.
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And if you speak to his school friends at the time,
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he didn't seem to have a lot of empathy for other children.
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So when children would fall over in the playground
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or get hurt or cry,
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he didn't appear to be affected by that
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and would sometimes laugh at them.
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So something wasn't quite right with a young Jeffrey Dahmer.
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-Feeling ostracized by his family and classmates,
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Dahmer spends a lot of time playing alone in the woods
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surrounding his Ohio home.
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-Well, he had a really morbid curiosity with death
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from quite a young age.
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And this started with a fairly innocent insect collection,
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and he would keep the bodies of insects inside jars
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full of chemicals.
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This soon progressed.
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He would go fishing, and he was interested
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in what the fish looked like on the inside,
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so he would chop up the fish to have a look at this.
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-Dahmer took his fish and cut it open.
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Was fascinated with the inside of the fish,
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and one of his little friends asked him,
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"Jeffrey, why do you...
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what are you doing?"
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And he said, "Just look at it."
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-You know, and this escalates to the point
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that he's apparently killing stray dogs
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and decapitating them.
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-One of the young boys in the neighborhood
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was walking in the woods behind Dahmer's house
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when Dahmer was a teenager,
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and he came across the body of a dead dog,
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and it was mutilated, and it was nailed to a tree.
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-So, there's some early interest in animal anatomy
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that blossoms into this very, very dark obsession,
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and then somehow becomes tangled up with his own sexuality.
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-Dahmer continued to struggle to fit in at high school
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and turned to alcohol from a young age.
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-Well, Dahmer started drinking when he was at school,
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and one of his former classmates remembered
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that he used to come in with a cup
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and he didn't have tea or coffee in this cup.
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He had scotch whiskey in it.
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So this was quite a disturbing behavior for a teenager.
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-There's a thought that in hindsight you ask
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why more people didn't try to intervene.
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You've got a kid coming drunk to school.
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But back in the '70s
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when Dahmer's coming to school intoxicated,
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nobody thinks, "Gee, we better make sure we take care of this
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because what if he turns out to be a serial killer?"
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-In the summer of 1978 Dahmer's parents finally divorced.
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-The breakdown of Jeffrey Dahmer's parent's marriage
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was quite a tough time for him.
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His parents were at each other's throats.
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It was not an amicable divorce at all.
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And each of them was forcing him to side with them,
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so he felt very much torn between his parents.
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So this was a real source of conflict for him.
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And I think at this time children often,
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who have these experiences, will retreat into themselves.
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They will preoccupy themselves with things
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that they're interested in
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and will lose themselves in their own fantasy world.
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And I think that's very much what happened with Dahmer.
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-Having just recently graduated from high school,
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Dahmer soon had no one around him at all.
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-Well, in 1978 Jeffrey Dahmer was 18.
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His mother had gone away with his younger brother,
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and his father was living in a hotel.
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So he's alone, and he's ruminating,
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and he's fantasizing,
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and things are going to take a turn for the worse
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quite soon after this.
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-On June the 18th, 1978, Dahmer's fantasy world
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collided with the real one when he pulled over to pick
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a 19-year-old hitchhiker called Steven Hicks.
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-Dahmer picked him up and invited him back
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to his house to have some drinks,
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and I guess maybe smoke some dope.
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-They were in the basement of his parents' home.
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They had had sex.
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And then Steven Hicks wanted to leave,
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and that was when Dahmer just wanted so badly to have company.
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Sounds like such a textbook psychological thing.
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You know, abandonment syndrome, but this was at the heart
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of what made him so needy for company.
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-And then when the guy said he wanted to leave,
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Dahmer clubbed him on the back of the head with a barbell
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and then strangled him.
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Then, ultimately, disposed of the body, removed all the flesh,
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and eventually dissolved it in acid
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and pulverized the bones with a sledgehammer.
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-This is a really, really brutal crime.
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And he disposes of the body parts
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in the woods behind his house,
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and that's already symbolic place for Jeffrey Dahmer
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'cause this is a place where he's dismembered animals before,
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where he's displayed mutilated dogs on tree trunks.
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So we're seeing that this place is special to him.
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-Dahmer had experienced taking the life of another human
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for the first time.
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-I think that the first murder
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is a real milestone for Jeffrey Dahmer.
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So he knows now that he's capable of this.
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He knows that he's capable of taking someone else's life,
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so it's not just a fantasy anymore.
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It's now a reality.
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He's gone from harming animals to harming people.
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And he's not gonna stop.
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-He's not desperate, but he becomes accustomed to it.
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He becomes ready to kill again, and just kill and kill
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and kill and kill until he gets caught.
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-But it wasn't until 13 years later in August 1991
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that Dahmer was finally apprehended after one
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of his potential victims escaped from his Milwaukee apartment.
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Once in custody Dahmer confessed to killing
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17 young men and boys.
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The man whose job it was to prosecute the relentless killer
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was Milwaukee District Attorney, Mike McCann.
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-The word evil doesn't come up very often.
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It just doesn't. Guilty. Not guilty.
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Did he do it? Didn't he do it?
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Culpability, yes.
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But not often evil because evil is almost a moral issue.
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That word came up with Dahmer.
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You couldn't help see what he did.
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Innocent people, strangers,
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to take for a couple of hours of sex
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to take a human being's life.
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That's so evil.
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So evil.
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-Dahmer's case made headlines across the world
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after the details of his grizzly confession were leaked.
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-A<i> New York Times</i> reporter
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compromised the integrity of a worker at our building
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and got a copy of the confession.
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It was a detailed 38-page confession.
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So the details of the gory things he had done,
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again, captured people's interest.
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So that's how it rapidly became a matter of intense interest.
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-The confession outlined the life
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of a deranged serial killer.
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After murdering Steven Hicks and desecrating his body in 1978,
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Dahmer didn't kill again for 9 years.
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After dropping out of Ohio State University
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after just one semester,
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he was spending most of his days drinking
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until his father urged him to enlist in the U.S. Army.
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-The alcohol continued as a theme when he joined the army,
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and he moved to Germany.
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One of his former colleagues remembers him
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just sitting in his room drinking gin all day long,
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not even leaving his room to eat.
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So there was a real dependency on alcohol.
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-In 1981, 21-year-old Dahmer
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was discharged from the army after his drinking
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rendered him incapable of serving.
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After spending a month sleeping rough on the beaches of Florida,
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he returned to Ohio.
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But his father had had enough and shipped him off
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to start a new life in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
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-He was sent to live with his grandmother,
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who is the one adult apparently he had,
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you know, something approaching a normal affection for.
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It was there he really embarked on this career of horror.
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-By 1986 Dahmer had been arrested a couple of times
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for exposing himself in public,
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once in front of a group of children.
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The hopeless alcoholic had managed to find work
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at a local chocolate factory in Milwaukee
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and was frequenting gay bars and bathhouses.
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-I think being homosexual affected Dahmer in two ways.
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Firstly, it was a source of shame for him
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because it was quite a stigmatized social identity
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at the time.
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But also it enabled him an opportunity
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when it came to his killing behavior.
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So being homosexual at this time,
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it was something that happened in the shadows.
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It was something that happened underground,
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and this was the ideal place for someone like him to go hunting.
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-It was this exposure to the gay scene
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that seemed to reawaken the dark sexual urges inside of him.
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And by September 1987, over 9 years since
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the murder of Steven Hick,
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Jeffrey Dahmer was ready to kill again.
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-His idea was to drug people and keep them with him
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so that they wouldn't answer back to him,
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they wouldn't argue with him, they wouldn't fight him.
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They would stay with him.
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That's what he wanted.
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He wanted companionship.
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So, he would go to the bars on Milwaukee's near south side,
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and he would have conversations with people in these bars.
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And when he was talking to these people,
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these perspective victims, he would say,
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"So what was it like when you came out?
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How is your family about it?"
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So if your response was, "Oh, my family has been great.
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They're so supportive.
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I'm very close to my parents."
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That person wasn't gonna be a victim.
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But if the person answered,
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"My parents aren't speaking to me anymore.
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I'm estranged from my family.
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I'm kind of on my own now."
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That was the perfect victim for Jeffrey Dahmer
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because he wanted to choose people who wouldn't be missed.
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-Between September 1987 and March 1988, Dahmer killed 3 men.
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The youngest a 14-year-old boy
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who he paid to pose for nude photographs
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before drugging and strangling him to death.
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He would dissolve the bodies in acid.
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-He cleverly developed a program to destroy the bodies,
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get rid of the bodies, left no evidence.
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This was a very clever killer.
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Very clever killer.
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-Dahmer would dissolve his victims,
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presumably to make it easier to dispose of them.
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Dissolving tissue in chemicals can certainly interfere
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with identifying it as human tissue.
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It'll interfere with DNA.
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You're really left predominately with skeletal remains
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to try and identify features such as age, sex, race.
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-Dahmer murdered two of the victims
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at his grandmother's house where he was living.
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-His grandmother became aware
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that he was bringing these young guys back to her house.
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I mean, she thought for gay sex.
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Obviously, she had no inkling of the atrocities
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he was committing on their bodies,
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although she was complaining also about a foul odor
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that she noticed.
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-On September the 25th, 1988, Dahmer moved into
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his own apartment on North 25th Street in Milwaukee
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and didn't wait long before attacking again.
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The very next day, September the 26th,
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he enticed a 13-year-old boy back to his home
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and drugged him.
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-One of the methods that Dahmer used to subdue his victims
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was to use benzodiazepine.
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It's the same family of drugs as Valium.
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He put them in drinks.
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That would make you woozy, sleepy,
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and then eventually go unconscious.
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-Dahmer sexually assaulted the boy,
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but somehow, possibly due to Dahmer passing out drunk,
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the 13-year-old escaped and went to the police.
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In January 1989, he was convicted of sexual assault,
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but the sentencing was delayed until May,
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during which time an unrelenting Dahmer,
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unbeknownst to the authorities, managed to claim a fifth victim.
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The 29-year-old served 10 months in prison,
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but when he was released in March 1990,
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he picked up right where he left off.
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-So, Jeffrey Dahmer really did ramp up his offending.
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The scale and the nature of his behavior
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became all the more grotesque.
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So he wasn't just killing people, dismembering them,
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and then disposing of their bodies,
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he started to do some really bizarre things.
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-He was in the process of constructing
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some hideously diabolical shrine in his bedroom
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out of the skulls and skeletons of some of his victims.
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It's almost as though some bizarre archaic thing
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had broken through and he was performing or creating
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some sort of ancient human sacrificial temple
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in this little Milwaukee apartment.
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-In 1990, Dahmer killed another four young men.
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His M.O. was becoming more and more polished.
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-He would offer his victims money to go back
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to his apartment with him
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to take pictures, nude photographs of them.
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And then perhaps to have sex.
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Every single one of his victims went with him willingly.
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He would offer them a drink,
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and once he found out what they wanted to drink,
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he kept a lot of things on hand, different kinds of alcohol,
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and that's when he would put a drug in it
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that would put them to sleep
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or that would relax them so that they would pass out.
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-They would pass out.
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He would then have sex with them while they were passed out.
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Do with them as he wished,
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but of course, they couldn't do to him.
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Then as they approached recovery, coming out of it,
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he would strangle them to death.
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-It seemed as though Dahmer got a thrill, not from the murder
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but from the dead bodies of his victims.
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-Dahmer liked necrophilia.
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He liked sex with unconscious people.
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He wasn't a slasher in the sense that he took delight in killing.
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His purpose was sex with these people,
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company with these people.
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That's hard to believe.
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-He would commit necrophiliac sex acts on the corpses,
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dismember the corpses, dissolve parts of the bodies
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in these vats of acid he had,
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keep certain organs in his refrigerator,
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some of which he would actually cannibalize.
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-Dahmer said that the cannibalism that he engaged in
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was born out of a curiosity.
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He wanted to find out, first of all, what that would be like.
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He also said that there was an element of wanting
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to make these people a part of him
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so they would be with him forever.
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-Dahmer, from the beginning, is driven
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by this terror of being alone.
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He killed his first victim, Steven Hicks when Hicks
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said he had to go and Dahmer didn't want to be alone.
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There's some desire, which is part of normal sexuality.
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You know you love somebody...
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Somebody will say, "I love you so much I want to eat you up."
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With normal people, that's, obviously, metaphorical.
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But it does express some desire to be so close to the person
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that you want to incorporate them into,
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you want to merge with them.
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With somebody like Dahmer that becomes
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this very literal horror.
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-And the horror only became worse when Dahmer
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began experimenting with his semi-conscious victims.
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-He would drill holes in their skulls
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and put muriatic acid inside to see
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if he could get them to a zombie state
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so that he could keep them alive and subservient to him.
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-It's essentially an amateur version
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of attempting to perform a lobectomy or a lobotomy,
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but it would be an incredibly unpleasant
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and damaging thing to do to someone's brain.
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If you affect the frontal lobes, you will affect personality,
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potentially make somebody docile.
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If he's less accurate, you could essentially cause a stroke
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that could cause paralysis, speech problems.
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It really very much depends on which part of the brain
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is actually damaged.
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-But, of course, that didn't work,
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and his victims died one after another.
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Hearing about that is the stuff of horror movies,
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and the fact that it was happening in a city
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where we were known for manufacturing and beer
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and a very good Midwestern work ethic,
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tight families, this isn't the kind of thing that happens here.
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-In May 1991, 31-year-old Jeffrey Dahmer
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was in his killing prime.
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He'd already murdered 11 men and had begun collecting
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bones and skulls from his victims
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and cannibalizing their organs.
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What would've been a nightmare for most was a fantasy for him,
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and he carefully went about his killings
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under the radar of the police and the people of Milwaukee.
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-Jeffrey Dahmer had a job in a local chocolate factory.
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And I think for him it enabled him
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to maintain a façade of normality.
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He was just an average Joe,
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a regular guy who went to work every day.
00:21:06
-I think he killed so many people without being caught
00:21:09
because of the fact that he looked like everyone else.
00:21:12
He did what successful serial killers do.
00:21:15
He blended.
00:21:16
They blend in with society.
00:21:19
Now he was a Caucasian male
00:21:20
living in a predominantly African-American neighborhood,
00:21:24
but he didn't talk to anybody, bother anybody.
00:21:27
He was barely someone people noticed.
00:21:31
Barely noticed.
00:21:33
He also was targeting people who he found out
00:21:38
might not be missed.
00:21:40
-For most people, if they were to commit
00:21:42
the type of acts that Jeffrey Dahmer did,
00:21:44
they would no way be able to function normally,
00:21:47
but Jeffrey Dahmer was not most people.
00:21:50
He hasn't got the same level of repulsion and shock
00:21:53
at dead bodies or mutilated bodies that most of us have.
00:21:57
It was just another aspect of his life.
00:22:00
-It was not known that we had a serial slayer loose in our city.
00:22:03
We did not know because he was so cleverly
00:22:05
disposing of the bodies.
00:22:06
The families were reporting the sons were missing,
00:22:09
but the police were not finding bodies.
00:22:10
And not infrequently young men something happens in their life,
00:22:13
they just up and leave town.
00:22:15
It happens enough that the police don't get worried.
00:22:17
If it's a woman, they'll immediately commit resources
00:22:19
to investigate, but a young man they don't.
00:22:22
-But on May the 26th, 1991,
00:22:25
Dahmer came agonizingly close to capture
00:22:28
after an encounter with a 14-year-old boy.
00:22:32
-Dahmer had taken Konerak Sinthasomphone,
00:22:35
a young Asian male who he found attractive.
00:22:38
He met him in the mall.
00:22:40
Offered him money to go back to his apartment.
00:22:43
He went, and he began to work the ritual.
00:22:47
Dahmer would drug him, and then he began
00:22:51
the process of this crude lobotomy,
00:22:55
and he had drilled a hole in this young man's head.
00:22:58
He took a break. He ran out to get more beer.
00:23:01
While he was gone, Konerak ran out of the apartment.
00:23:05
He was naked. He was completely dazed.
00:23:08
And he's running up the alley
00:23:10
next to Dahmer's apartment building.
00:23:11
A woman in another apartment building saw him running up
00:23:17
the alley and said,
00:23:19
"There's a boy running up the alley.
00:23:20
Something's going on."
00:23:22
And then these women call the police.
00:23:24
-And then Dahmer appeared.
00:23:26
Again, this is another remarkable characteristic
00:23:30
of these psychopaths was that they have an ability
00:23:34
to maintain a kind of coolness
00:23:39
under the most extraordinarily high-pressured circumstances.
00:23:44
-So he walked up to the officers.
00:23:46
"Good evening, officers." He's very polite.
00:23:48
He's sober.
00:23:50
And he said, "This is my boyfriend.
00:23:53
He came to stay with me.
00:23:55
We had a little bit too much to drink,
00:23:56
and he ran out of the house."
00:23:58
Said, "How old is he?" Dahmer said, "He's 19."
00:24:02
And the officers said, "Okay, well, just to make sure
00:24:07
let's all walk back up to the apartment together."
00:24:10
-The cops went in and looked around.
00:24:12
They even peeked into the bedroom
00:24:13
where there was a decomposing corpse
00:24:15
of one of Dahmer's previous victims,
00:24:17
but they took such a cursory look at it
00:24:19
that they didn't even notice it.
00:24:22
-Assuming the couple were having a lover's tiff,
00:24:24
the two police officers
00:24:26
left Konarek alone with Dahmer
00:24:28
in the apartment building.
00:24:30
And in the early hours of the morning,
00:24:32
he murdered the 14-year-old boy.
00:24:34
An opportunity to catch the killer had been missed.
00:24:38
-I think that really speaks volumes
00:24:40
about the attitudes of the police
00:24:42
at the time in terms of ethnic minorities,
00:24:44
in terms of young people, in terms of the gay community.
00:24:47
And that was another victim
00:24:49
that could potentially have been saved.
00:24:53
So there's this terrible thing going on behind closed doors,
00:24:56
and people just aren't seeing it.
00:24:58
People aren't wanting to see it.
00:25:00
Even the police are not joining up the dots
00:25:03
and finding out what's really going on,
00:25:04
so this is allowed to just bubble away and get worse.
00:25:08
-After evading capture, Dahmer was free to continue.
00:25:13
-There was two sides really to Dahmer's pleasure
00:25:15
that he got from killing his victims.
00:25:17
So he was a sadist who enjoys the pain
00:25:20
and suffering of other people.
00:25:22
And with sadist that thrill ends when the victim dies.
00:25:26
But Dahmer was also something of a necrophiliac
00:25:28
who as interested in having corpses around
00:25:32
and doing things with those corpses.
00:25:34
And that means that the thrill starts with death.
00:25:36
So he has this continuous fulfillment going on.
00:25:39
And he's always fully in control,
00:25:41
and I think that's what's really at the root of Jeffrey Dahmer.
00:25:44
It's power, and it's control, and it's the feeling
00:25:47
that he has all this knowledge about what he's done
00:25:49
and nobody else quite knows what he's up to.
00:25:53
-By July 1991, Dahmer's desire to kill had become insatiable.
00:25:59
In just 16 days, he murdered four more men
00:26:02
bringing his total number of victims to 17.
00:26:06
But Dahmer's reign of terror was about to come to an end.
00:26:10
On July the 22nd, he met a man called Tracy Edwards.
00:26:15
-While they were together in the apartment,
00:26:18
Dahmer threw a handcuff on him.
00:26:21
This was now the beginning of his ritual.
00:26:24
Dahmer had taken photographs of his victims
00:26:26
in various stages of dismemberment.
00:26:28
Polaroids.
00:26:29
And those were sitting on the dresser inside the bedroom.
00:26:32
They weren't sitting out in the main living room,
00:26:36
but there was some speculation
00:26:37
that Tracy Edwards had perhaps seen that.
00:26:40
And he ran out of the apartment in his underwear.
00:26:44
Ran down the street.
00:26:46
And when he saw the police car,
00:26:49
Tracy Edwards has said his intention
00:26:51
was just to get the handcuff off.
00:26:53
That's all he wanted.
00:26:54
He stopped these cops to say,
00:26:55
"Hey, can you just get this off of me?"
00:26:57
So he stopped, and the officers start talking to him
00:27:01
about what he saw.
00:27:02
And then they said, "Well, we should probably check this out.
00:27:06
Let's all go back to the apartment."
00:27:08
Dahmer answered, and the minute he saw
00:27:11
that it was the police he tried to shut the door on them.
00:27:14
The police pushed the door open a bit.
00:27:16
They started struggling with him,
00:27:18
and then finally he just gave in.
00:27:22
And that was when Dahmer was officially finished.
00:27:26
He was finished killing, and he knew that he was finished.
00:27:30
-The police officers immediately arrested Dahmer
00:27:33
after finding the remains of some of his victims
00:27:36
in his apartment.
00:27:37
-They saw the body parts and then one of the officers
00:27:39
said he heard a scream.
00:27:40
Then he realized later he was the one who screamed
00:27:42
when he saw the body,
00:27:43
so they knew they were dealing with a very serious offense.
00:27:45
Dahmer did not resist.
00:27:47
A little slight resistance, but Dahmer was taken into custody,
00:27:49
and the investigation was initiated.
00:27:51
-What followed was an incredible media circus
00:27:54
on Dahmer's doorstep as unbelievable stories
00:27:57
about what was being uncovered inside
00:27:59
his apartment were revealed.
00:28:01
-It was so fantastical that you think people are making it up
00:28:07
when they're telling you the details.
00:28:09
But as it turned out, they weren't making it up.
00:28:12
All of the atrocities that we heard about
00:28:14
that had happened in that apartment really did happen.
00:28:17
-The medical examiner who was called to the scene
00:28:19
didn't know what was happening.
00:28:21
It was so strange. There was a freezer there.
00:28:22
Body parts in the freezer.
00:28:23
Called in a Hazmat crew.
00:28:26
Well, our television stations cover the police radio.
00:28:28
When they hear that, they dispatch crews there.
00:28:30
And the first day it was local television.
00:28:32
Second day, national television.
00:28:34
By the third day, it was international television.
00:28:36
-They were able to show video of these items
00:28:41
coming out of the front door of this apartment building.
00:28:44
That's not usual at a crime scene.
00:28:46
We saw a large blue barrel in which we know
00:28:48
that Jeffrey Dahmer was trying to dissolve body parts.
00:28:52
It had a refrigerator that was holding skulls
00:28:55
and also it was holding body parts.
00:28:58
So these are coming down the stairs,
00:29:01
and people were just incredulous to watch it.
00:29:05
When I wrote the story for the <i> Milwaukee Journal</i> that morning,
00:29:08
and it was released in the paper about 8:00,
00:29:13
I think, in the morning.
00:29:15
Normally, we were an afternoon paper,
00:29:17
but we went out early with it
00:29:18
because it was such an incredible story.
00:29:20
-But no one quite knew the enormity of the crimes
00:29:24
until Dahmer confessed to detectives
00:29:26
at the local police station.
00:29:28
-When I've spoken to the detectives
00:29:30
that were working this case,
00:29:33
they have said this was not a great whodunit.
00:29:37
This would've been a whodunit if Jeffrey Dahmer
00:29:39
hadn't confessed to everything.
00:29:42
-When Dahmer was arrested there were already
00:29:43
a number of bodies in his quarters.
00:29:45
He gave full confessions to the police
00:29:47
detailing his involvement in 16 separate slayings.
00:29:51
Most of the time he did not know the name of the victims.
00:29:54
-When Dahmer remembered a crime
00:29:57
that he might not have shared with the detectives,
00:30:00
he would have the jail call them
00:30:02
whether it was the middle of the night
00:30:03
or the middle of the day and say,
00:30:06
"I remembered something else. Please, come over."
00:30:08
Dahmer had said he wanted to make sure
00:30:10
that he didn't forget anything
00:30:12
because he wanted those families to have closure.
00:30:15
I'm not sure about that.
00:30:17
That may be giving Jeffrey Dahmer more credit
00:30:20
than he is deserved,
00:30:23
but he did claim to want to try and remember
00:30:26
so that all of those families would have closure.
00:30:30
-One of the interesting things about Dahmer
00:30:32
that does differentiate him from other killers of his breed
00:30:36
is that he did seem to be capable
00:30:39
of a certain degree of remorse,
00:30:41
and certainly recognized the extent of his depravity.
00:30:45
-Although he confessed to killing 16 people
00:30:48
in the state of Wisconsin,
00:30:50
Dahmer was first charged with four counts of murder
00:30:53
on the 25th of July, 1991,
00:30:56
and a further 11 counts were added in August.
00:31:00
The following month, investigators in Ohio
00:31:02
found teeth and bone fragments belonging to Steven Hicks
00:31:06
in the woods near Dahmer's family home.
00:31:09
A preliminary hearing was set for January 1992.
00:31:13
His legal team were going to argue that the killings
00:31:16
were the work of a madman.
00:31:18
-The issue wasn't going to be did he do it or not.
00:31:20
The issue was going to be was he sane or insane when he did it.
00:31:23
And his hope was that at least in even one of the cases
00:31:25
he could induce the jury to believe that he was insane.
00:31:27
Under those circumstances,
00:31:29
he would be sentenced not to a prison
00:31:31
but to a mental health facility.
00:31:32
People would say to me, "Mike, this guy killed 16 people.
00:31:35
He was drinking their blood, eating parts of their body.
00:31:38
He must've been crazy."
00:31:40
It sounds like he's crazy to say that,
00:31:42
but that's not what the insanity rule is.
00:31:44
-The city wanted justice.
00:31:46
They wanted to see the man the press were calling
00:31:49
The Milwaukee Cannibal locked away in prison
00:31:52
for the horrific crimes he had committed.
00:31:56
The trial of Jeffrey Dahmer
00:31:58
would be one of the biggest in the history
00:32:00
of not just Wisconsin but the entire U.S.A.
00:32:05
-My reaction to it then was the same reaction
00:32:08
I think that everybody who lived in
00:32:10
Milwaukee had when they heard about the case.
00:32:14
No, it can't be.
00:32:15
This is Milwaukee.
00:32:17
Those kinds of things don't happen here.
00:32:18
This is the Midwest.
00:32:20
This is a very nice place.
00:32:24
-The trial of Jeffrey Dahmer began on
00:32:27
the 30th of January, 1992.
00:32:29
Anne had a front row seat.
00:32:32
-The courtroom was an odd spectacle
00:32:35
because Court TV
00:32:37
was still new in the game back then.
00:32:41
And the idea that you would come to court
00:32:46
and you'd be on television was still kind of new to people.
00:32:50
It was the kind of media attention to a trial
00:32:54
that Milwaukee hadn't seen in a very, very long time if ever.
00:32:59
I can remember so clearly the first time Jeffrey Dahmer's
00:33:02
initial appearance in court when he walked in.
00:33:06
I think the real fear that people had
00:33:08
when they first saw Jeffrey Dahmer
00:33:10
was that he looked like everybody else.
00:33:13
He was a good-looking young man,
00:33:16
and he is not the person that you would look at and say,
00:33:20
"Stay away from that guy."
00:33:22
-It would be up to Milwaukee D.A., Mike McCann,
00:33:26
to prove that Dahmer was sane and responsible for his actions.
00:33:31
-Guilty wasn't going to be an issue,
00:33:32
but we wanted the jury to know enough about the facts
00:33:35
and so did the defense to say,
00:33:36
"All right, what really happened here?" How atrocious was it?
00:33:38
How planned was it? How was he behaving?
00:33:40
What skills were involved? He couldn't control himself.
00:33:44
-It was a lot to take in
00:33:47
because the testimony was so graphic.
00:33:50
We all knew Mike McCann.
00:33:52
He was a religious man.
00:33:56
And we've seen him in court.
00:33:58
He was this good attorney.
00:34:01
But the kinds of things that he was reciting
00:34:03
out of the criminal complaint
00:34:05
and the confession were unheard of.
00:34:08
These things were unheard of.
00:34:11
And they happened right here in our city.
00:34:14
-He did it quietly.
00:34:15
He concealed the bodies.
00:34:16
Cleverly concealed. Destroyed the bodies.
00:34:19
Planned it well. Laid in the equipment.
00:34:20
Got the drugs that he used.
00:34:22
No one that he worked with thought he was insane.
00:34:24
The way he conducted himself was in a way
00:34:27
that it seemed that he was sane,
00:34:29
and that's what we wanted to get across to the jury.
00:34:31
-Mike employs the help
00:34:33
of psychiatry expert Dr. Phillip Resnick.
00:34:36
-The more bizarre the crimes,
00:34:38
such as involving cannibalism, the more the lay public
00:34:42
wants to think that guy had to be out of his mind.
00:34:46
But in looking at it from the actual strict definition
00:34:49
of insanity, generally, the diseases
00:34:53
of paraphilias like necrophilia
00:34:56
where someone has trouble controlling themselves
00:34:59
are not viewed for the most part
00:35:03
as diseases which qualify for insanity
00:35:06
because of the social implications.
00:35:09
One of the points that I made as a consultant is
00:35:12
even if you have necrophilia,
00:35:15
and even if you have trouble controlling your impulse,
00:35:19
the majority of necrophiliacs will select a setting
00:35:24
where they can accomplish this without homicide.
00:35:27
So some become assistants in morgues
00:35:31
or assistants in pathology labs
00:35:35
where they may have access to dead victims.
00:35:37
Others will actually dissenter bodies after they're buried
00:35:42
so that one does not have to actually kill
00:35:46
to exercise the necrophiliac impulse,
00:35:50
and that's one of the reasons I felt
00:35:51
that he didn't qualify for insanity.
00:35:53
-The trial was essentially a debate
00:35:56
between specialtist psychiatrists
00:35:58
about the mental state of Dahmer
00:36:00
who sat watching the whole thing play out over two weeks.
00:36:04
-Dahmer was very calm in court.
00:36:06
When you talk are you assessing a person by what you see?
00:36:09
No one studying him would believe he was insane.
00:36:12
He was watching what was going on.
00:36:14
He wasn't reacting in any negative way.
00:36:17
He conducted himself in a very rational way, a very proper way.
00:36:21
-This was a case to tell the world
00:36:24
that I did what I did not for reasons of hate.
00:36:26
I hated no one.
00:36:28
I knew I was sick or evil or both.
00:36:31
Now I believe I was sick.
00:36:33
-On February 15th, the jury had reached a verdict
00:36:36
on Dahmer's sanity.
00:36:38
-Someone like Dahmer comes along who has never been
00:36:41
in a psychiatric hospital and alleges insanity.
00:36:45
Juries are gonna be skeptical of it.
00:36:48
And then when it's all in the form of a sexual drive
00:36:52
rather than a traditional psychosis
00:36:55
where someone's out of touch with reality,
00:36:58
and he's taken careful steps to cover his tracks,
00:37:01
it's very difficult to succeed with insanity
00:37:03
with that type of case.
00:37:06
-Jeffrey Dahmer was ruled to be sane by the jury.
00:37:09
On February 17, 1992, Judge Lawrence Gram
00:37:13
sentenced him to life imprisonment
00:37:15
for each of the 15 counts against him.
00:37:18
-When the verdict was announced in court,
00:37:20
there was a great shout from the gallery,
00:37:25
especially from the victims' families.
00:37:26
They cried.
00:37:28
-I was pleased in the sense, happy, not exuberant,
00:37:31
but happy that this danger was removed from our community,
00:37:33
that the jury had not been hoodwinked,
00:37:35
that the jury realized this chap was not insane.
00:37:38
-The state of Wisconsin does not have the death penalty,
00:37:41
but Dahmer would have to serve a minimum of 936 years.
00:37:46
He was immediately sent to the Columbia Correctional
00:37:48
Institute in Portage.
00:37:51
Three months later, on the 1st of May, 1992 in Ohio,
00:37:55
Dahmer was also found guilty of murdering Steven Hicks in 1978
00:38:00
and given yet another life sentence.
00:38:03
-Dahmer always said that he was compelled to kill.
00:38:07
That they were urges.
00:38:08
He said, "I had urges that I could not control."
00:38:11
He also said that even though he was in prison,
00:38:17
he was relieved that the killing was done.
00:38:20
He still had the urges.
00:38:22
They didn't go away.
00:38:25
He was just in a place where he couldn't act on them.
00:38:28
-Locked away for the rest of his life,
00:38:30
Dahmer found comfort in the Bible.
00:38:33
And by 1994, he decided to get baptized.
00:38:37
The prison called on local minister Roy Ratcliff.
00:38:41
-So I was quite surprised to be escorted
00:38:43
to a little room and left alone,
00:38:46
and then Jeff come to the room, and he closes the door.
00:38:49
And then there's he and I sitting together
00:38:52
across the table, and I'm thinking for a moment,
00:38:55
"Wow, I'm in a room with a man who has killed several people."
00:38:58
So, yeah that was a little bit disconcerting,
00:39:00
but I was there for a purpose and for a reason,
00:39:02
so I wanted to find out what was going on
00:39:04
and to see what I could do to help.
00:39:06
So my fears were set aside primarily
00:39:09
because of my focus on what I was trying to do.
00:39:11
Jeff was a normal guy.
00:39:13
Courteous, very respectful to me.
00:39:15
When we shook hands, I noticed his hands were really small.
00:39:18
Looking at his hands and thinking,
00:39:20
"Wow, these are the hands that strangled people.
00:39:22
These are the hands that murder people.
00:39:23
These are the hands that dismembered people."
00:39:25
-On May the 10th, 1994,
00:39:28
the same day that notorious serial killer
00:39:31
John Wayne Gacy was executed,
00:39:34
Jeffrey Dahmer was baptized in a prison bathtub.
00:39:38
-Then the door opens, and I walk into the room,
00:39:40
and Jeff had already crawled into the tub.
00:39:42
And the only thing that was above the water
00:39:44
was just simply his head.
00:39:45
And so said, "I baptize you in the name of the Father, Son,
00:39:47
and the Holy Spirit for the forgiveness of your sins,"
00:39:50
and pushed his head down under.
00:39:51
And then when he came back up I said something I often say
00:39:54
to people when I baptize them.
00:39:55
I said, "Welcome to the family of God."
00:39:57
He said, "Well, thank you very much."
00:39:59
-But just six months after his baptism,
00:40:01
on November the 28th, 1994,
00:40:05
Dahmer and another convicted murderer, Jesse Anderson,
00:40:09
were attacked and killed by a fellow inmate.
00:40:13
-Christopher Scarver took a barbell,
00:40:16
went into the bathroom,
00:40:18
and beat both Jeffrey Dahmer and Jesse Anderson to death.
00:40:21
There were a number of people
00:40:24
who felt that Jeffrey Dahmer got exactly what he deserved.
00:40:27
When I called his mother, she said,
00:40:29
"Well, now everybody got what they want.
00:40:31
The monster is dead."
00:40:33
And then she said, "And he was my son.
00:40:35
He was my boy."
00:40:37
-It was a terrible, terrible death in that sense there.
00:40:40
But for some people, it was a relief.
00:40:42
They were glad because all they could think
00:40:43
about are the crimes he committed.
00:40:45
They're not thinking about where I'm thinking about
00:40:46
is here's a person who is trying to serve God as best as he can
00:40:50
and now his life has been taken from him.
00:40:52
-I mean, some people see some sort of poetic symmetry
00:40:56
in the fact that Dahmer's first murder
00:40:59
was the one in which he bludgeoned
00:41:02
the teenage hitchhiker, Steven Hicks,
00:41:03
to death with a barbell,
00:41:06
and that he himself died in a very, very similar way.
00:41:11
-The apartment on North 25th Street
00:41:13
that housed Dahmer's macabre collection of victims' remains,
00:41:17
and where 12 young men lost their lives,
00:41:20
was demolished in November 1992.
00:41:24
But Dahmer's twisted legacy has been impossible to wipe out.
00:41:28
He has become one of the most infamous serial killers
00:41:32
in the world.
00:41:33
-I think of Dahmer as sort of like the flip side
00:41:35
of somebody like Mozart.
00:41:38
How do you account for somebody creating that kind of music?
00:41:41
Ultimately, how do you account for somebody
00:41:44
who is luring young men to his apartment
00:41:47
and drilling holes in their skull
00:41:48
and injecting brains with muriatic acid
00:41:51
to turn them into zombies?
00:41:53
There's something there ultimately inexplicable.
00:41:56
-Jeffrey Dahmer committed some of the most evil acts
00:42:00
that I have ever written about or heard about
00:42:03
or seen on a television show because they were real.
00:42:07
I don't know if he was sane or insane
00:42:12
because that's not my training to figure that out,
00:42:15
but I can absolutely say
00:42:17
that he did some of the most evil acts known to man.
00:42:24
-Dahmer's crimes would not feel out of place
00:42:26
in a perverse horror movie.
00:42:28
He was a man who killed to satisfy
00:42:31
his unhealthy sexual perversions.
00:42:33
Keeping parts of his victims' skeletons and trophies
00:42:36
and eating their organs.
00:42:38
Jeffrey Dahmer truly is the stuff of nightmares,
00:42:42
and unquestionably one of the world's most evil killers.
00:42:48
♪♪
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00:43:04
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Episode Highlights

  • The Devil in Milwaukee
    A bizarre encounter leads to the arrest of one of America's most notorious serial killers.
    “People were whispering under their breaths, you know, it was the devil.”
    @ 00m 28s
    July 28, 2021
  • The First Murder
    Dahmer's first victim, Steven Hicks, marked a turning point in his dark journey.
    “He knows now that he's capable of this.”
    @ 08m 41s
    July 28, 2021
  • Evil Defined
    Prosecutor Mike McCann describes the nature of Dahmer's heinous acts as pure evil.
    “That's so evil.”
    @ 09m 52s
    July 28, 2021
  • The Horror Unfolds
    Dahmer's actions escalated to necrophilia and cannibalism, shocking the world.
    “Dahmer liked necrophilia.”
    @ 17m 50s
    July 28, 2021
  • A City in Shock
    The horrifying reality of Dahmer's crimes contrasted sharply with Milwaukee's image.
    “This isn’t the kind of thing that happens here.”
    @ 20m 22s
    July 28, 2021
  • Dahmer's Arrest
    Dahmer was arrested after police discovered remains of his victims in his apartment.
    “They knew they were dealing with a very serious offense.”
    @ 27m 40s
    July 28, 2021
  • Dahmer's Confession
    Dahmer confessed to 16 murders, detailing his horrific acts to detectives.
    “This was not a great whodunit.”
    @ 29m 30s
    July 28, 2021
  • Dahmer's Baptism
    In prison, Dahmer found comfort in faith and was baptized.
    “Welcome to the family of God.”
    @ 39m 55s
    July 28, 2021
  • Dahmer's Death
    Dahmer was killed by a fellow inmate, seen by some as poetic justice.
    “Some people see some sort of poetic symmetry.”
    @ 40m 56s
    July 28, 2021

Episode Quotes

  • It's the devil.
    World's Most Evil Killers - Season 1, Episode 14 - Jeffrey Dahmer - Full Episode
  • That's so evil.
    World's Most Evil Killers - Season 1, Episode 14 - Jeffrey Dahmer - Full Episode
  • Dahmer liked necrophilia.
    World's Most Evil Killers - Season 1, Episode 14 - Jeffrey Dahmer - Full Episode
  • This isn’t the kind of thing that happens here.
    World's Most Evil Killers - Season 1, Episode 14 - Jeffrey Dahmer - Full Episode
  • I had urges that I could not control.
    World's Most Evil Killers - Season 1, Episode 14 - Jeffrey Dahmer - Full Episode
  • The monster is dead.
    World's Most Evil Killers - Season 1, Episode 14 - Jeffrey Dahmer - Full Episode

Key Moments

  • Midnight Encounter00:04
  • Living Nightmare00:43
  • Symbolic Disposal08:16
  • First Murder08:39
  • Killing Prime20:31
  • Confession29:42
  • Baptism39:28
  • Death40:01

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