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Mugshots: Robert Hanssen - Hanssen and the KGB

July 29, 2014 / 43:53

This episode covers the story of Robert Hansen, a former FBI agent who became one of the most notorious spies in U.S. history. Key topics include his espionage activities, his life as a family man, and the eventual investigation that led to his arrest.

Robert Hansen was known for selling American secrets to the Russians for cash and diamonds while maintaining his position within the FBI. His actions went undetected for years, even as he sat in meetings discussing counterintelligence.

The episode highlights Hansen's dual life, including his devout Catholicism and his relationships, particularly with his wife Bonnie and a stripper named Priscilla Gaye. His complex persona and motivations are examined through interviews with authors and former colleagues.

Hansen's eventual capture in 2001 is detailed, including the FBI's surveillance tactics and the evidence that led to his arrest. The episode concludes with reflections on the impact of his betrayal on national security.

Overall, the episode provides a comprehensive look at Hansen's life, his espionage activities, and the consequences of his actions on both personal and national levels.

TL;DR

Robert Hansen, an FBI agent, became a notorious spy, selling secrets to Russia for years before his arrest in 2001.

Episode

43:53
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Next, Robert Hansen, a career FBI agent,
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a man above suspicion. Robert Hansen is
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the most devilishly clever spy in the
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history of the United States. For more
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than a decade, the FBI knew there was a
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traitor in their midst, a mole. But they
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never questioned Hansen. He probably
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enjoyed knowing while he sat in meetings
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with his colleagues at the FBI that he
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was actually working for the other side
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at the same time they were all together
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looking for agents of the other side.
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Before he was caught, Hansen sold
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American secrets for cash and diamonds.
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I don't think it was the money at all
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for Hansen. I think it was the thrill of
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being a triple agent, if you will. Bob
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Hansen became Darth Vader without the
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mask. He was the most powerful counter
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inelligence official in the US
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government. Next, Robert Hansen, the
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unlikely spy.
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Sunday, February 18th, 2001, in Great
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Falls, Virginia, just outside of
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Washington, Robert Hansen attends
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Catholic Mass at St. Catherine of
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Sienna. His wife Bonnie and his six
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children are with him. Also attending
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mass is his boss, FBI Director Louie
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Free, also with his wife and family.
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Outside, a team of Free Special agents
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were on a mission. David Vise, the
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author of the book The Bureau and the
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Mole, tells the story of that moment
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based on FBI accounts. Hansen and his
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family sit on the left side of the
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church. Free and his family sit on the
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right side of the church. Father
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Franklin Martin McAfee is speaking and
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Hansen feels as though the father is
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speaking directly to him. Are you a
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sinner? Father McAfee asked. God still
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loves you. Have you ever lied to
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someone? Of course you have. God still
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loves you. Have you betrayed someone?
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God still loves you. Hansen internalizes
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these words. He feels as though Father
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McAfei's message is coming directly to
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him and for him.
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David Major was Hansen's boss at the
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FBI. He was also one of his friends. But
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on this day, Major had no idea Hansen
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had become a target. Most likely the FBI
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had actually surveiled him up to the
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church because by this time the FBI
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would be very closely monitoring him,
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probably technologically surveilling him
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um as well by putting a beacon in his
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car and those sort of things. He returns
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home with his family.
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There is Jack Hoser, his best friend.
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He hands Jack a copy of his favorite
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book. It was tattered. It was worn. Bob
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Hansen passes to Jack Horshower this
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book called A Man Called Thursday, which
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is a story about treason and espionage,
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which is a very telling story. And he
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looks at Jack and he says,
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"Things are not always the way they
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seem.
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Things are not always the way they
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seem."
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Hansen drives his friend to National
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Airport, says goodbye, and heads back
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into town, not realizing that he is
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being tailed by an FBI van. Hansen
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drives to a park in Northern Virginia,
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only minutes from his home. He had
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parked his car up around the corner. He
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had walked into the woods. Taking his
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last steps as a free man, he pulls a
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black, hefty garbage bag out of the
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trunk of his car. He walks to a foot
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bridge in the park. places that black
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bag underneath the bridge. He turns and
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he begins to walk out of the park.
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He then walks out of the site and is
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walking up to his car when he was
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approached by the FBI agency. A group of
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FBI agents descend upon him. They throw
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handcuffs on him. "Freeze!" they shout.
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"Freeze!"
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Robert Hansen asked a question that
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haunts the FBI to this day. He asked
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them, "What took you so long?"
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The FBI did not make public their arrest
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of Hansen for nearly 48 hours. There
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would be no perp walk for the press.
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Hansen had spied for the Russians under
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their noses. One of their own had
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betrayed them. Still, officially, the
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government put a positive spin on the
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story. Sunday, the FBI successfully
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concluded
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an investigation to end a very serious
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breach in the security of the United
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States. The arrest of Robert Hansen for
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espionage is especially difficult
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because the person who was investigated,
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arrested, and charged is one of our own.
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The next day and for years to come,
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people wondered who was this spy, Robert
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Hansen.
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Investigators trying to understand why
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this man turned on his country went to a
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Chicago suburban neighborhood called
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Norwood Park, where Hansen was born and
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raised. This is not the place you'd
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think the greatest spy in American
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history would ever start. We went out
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there and looked at the house and it's
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very very you know middle class lower
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middle class house in Norwood. You know
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it's a union bluecollar police firemen
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kind of community wave the flag kind of
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place. That was the roots that Bob grew
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up with. Hansen's dad was on the police
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department and he was a high ranking
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police officer. It would seem to me that
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when you when you're raised in a cop
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family you you it rubs off. you've got
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some immunity from all kinds of people
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looking at you because even as a kid,
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the kids would say, "Hey, my my dad's a
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cop." All of a sudden, you leave him
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alone. The roots of one of the most
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important people in the Bob Hansen case
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start in this high school. If you were
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to look at his yearbook, there's one
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picture of Bob Hansen, and there's very
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few things said about Bob. He was kind
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of a gray guy. He was not a a dater of
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lots of different women. He was seen as
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sort of a shadow guy, not in any
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particular click. But his best friend,
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Jack Horshower, who's taller, better
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looking, more of a ladies man, became
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his best friend.
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Eventually, Hansen will expose the dark
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side of his life to horser. It starts
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with his father, Howard Hansen, who was
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openly critical. He thought his son was
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a wimp, and he was going to make his son
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a man, and he was, as a result of doing
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that, turns out that he was very, very
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hard on Bob. uh very critical of him,
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thought he was a loser. Howard Hansen
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had decided his son was going to be a
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dentist. While attending dental school,
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Hansen meets his future wife, Bonnie.
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She is a naturally beautiful woman.
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Hansen's father didn't understand what
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she saw in his son. He actually said to
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Bob Henson's uh wife um when before they
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got married when they announced their
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engagement, "Why do you want to marry my
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uh son? He's a loser." Now, can you
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imagine what that would make you feel?
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That's what your father said about you.
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Hansen defies his father and joins the
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Chicago Police Department. He never
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walks a beat, however. He is assigned to
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a special squad where he meets another
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Chicago cop, Ernie Rizzo. I saw Hansen
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when I was a cop and he was assigned to
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C5. Um C5 was an elite Chicago unit that
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was to uh root out corrupt cops,
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politicians. It was the elite of the
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elite. Hansen went straight out of the
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academy in the C5. I would imagine with
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some pull from his father. Hansen was a
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mystery guy. If I had to to give an
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impression of Hansen, it would be a guy
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who you never want to put anything past.
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Uh, quiet guys scare me. Hansen was a
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scary guy.
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Bob and Bonnie Hansen were devout
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Catholics. They would join Opus Day, a
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fundamentalist Catholic group. Many
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police officers joined Opus Day, even
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Louis Free, Hansen's soon-to-be FBI
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leader. he became a true believer
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whether it was opus day which is really
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kind of an extreme form of Catholicism
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extreme adherence to it. It requires a
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certain kind of personality uh to want
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to u basically torture your own body
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sacrifice your own body in achieving
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some kind of religious objective. He was
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a virilent anti-communist. He would say
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that the Soviet Union will fail because
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it's run by godless communists and mean
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it. This was a man who I would never
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gone to have a drink with. I would never
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have asked him to go to a strip club
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with. I mean, he wasn't a guy guy. What
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was interesting is he had this dark side
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of him where he almost was addicted to
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betrayal. I think Hansen was all for
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Hansen. You know, most cops are a bunch
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of guys getting together. That's, you
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know, a brother thing. That wasn't
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Hansen. Hansen was his own one-man
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situation. He uh he didn't pal up or
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party up to anybody.
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Hansen rejected the Chicago PD. He
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turned in his Windy City badge for an
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FBI jacket. After a short stay in Gary,
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Indiana, he is transferred to New York
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City. At the time, the FBI headquarters
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was located on the Upper East Side of
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Manhattan, a short distance from the UN
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and close to the Soviet mission to the
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UN.
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Coming up, Hansen walks into a nest of
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spies looking to sell secrets.
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New York City, East 67th Street, 1981.
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The Russian mission to the United
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Nations, across the street from an NYPD
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precinct and two blocks from FBI offices
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where Robert Hansen was assigned to
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monitor the comingings and goings at the
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Russian mission known as the Nest of
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Spies.
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The rents and the living expenses in New
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York were uh stupendously higher than
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Gary, Indiana. Hansen is given access to
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sensitive information for the first time
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and he's feeling some financial
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pressure. He had a young growing family
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and a wife and he needed money. They
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bought a house in Scarsdale,
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which is an upscale suburb of New York,
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and the house was over his head
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financially, and the uh credit card
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bills were mounting up and and he was he
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was in trouble. So, one day he did
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something unlike his his later uh
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activities where he was very cautious.
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As far as I know, he walked right into
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the office of the Soviet Trade Company
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on 753rd Avenue known as AMTOR and
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volunteered his services. One Russian
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who knows his way around the mission at
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67th Street is Ole Kugan, a former KGB
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agent. Kugan's colleagues in Moscow
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informed him that someone with access to
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American secrets was offering them for
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sale. Kugan in an exclusive interview
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recalls that moment in 1981. Hansen had
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access to the national security issues.
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He had access to some of the most
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sensitive secrets of the United States
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government. The information he provided
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was so valuable from the very beginning
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that we had no just other opinions. He
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was a genuine one. At that time, we all
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already had someone in the United States
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CIA, Rick Ames.
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We immediately realized that that man's
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access to truly secret information was
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perhaps even far better than that of
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Rick Hayes. Hansen had just walked into
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the Russian office. He caught their
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security people by surprise. No one got
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a picture of him. And when he demanded
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payment, he had it delivered in cash to
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a post office box with his identity
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hidden.
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Author David Weise, who penned the story
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of Hansen's life in the book Spy, says
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Hansen's information led to the death of
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a high-ranking Soviet double agent. He
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gave them the identity of uh a Soviet uh
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officer who military officer who was
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cenamed top hat by the FBI and was an
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important very important source for
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American intelligence for something like
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20 years.
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Well, for that and some other material
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that he turned over a list of uh of KGB
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or GRU personnel in New York that were
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known to the FBI, he received a total of
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$30,000.
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Hansen may have been shrewd in his
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dealings with the Russians, but he was
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careless with the payoff. Bonnie Hansen
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one night walks in on her husband in New
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York and he hurriedly covers up some
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papers. She thinks he's writing a love
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letter to another woman. She says, "What
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are you doing?" He says, "I'm tricking
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the Russians." She said, "What do you
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mean?" He said, 'Well,
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I've sold information
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to the Russian military intelligence,
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but it's completely worthless
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information,
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and I've done it to trick the Russians
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and fool them. They've paid me thousands
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of dollars.
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Bonnie becomes distraught
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because she's fears that he may not be
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telling the truth.
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She worries that his career could be
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over, that their family life could blow
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apart. And so her reaction, her
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immediate reaction was, "We've got to go
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see a priest." Hansen confesses to his
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pastor in a car by the Russian mission.
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The priest tells him to give the money
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to charity and never spy again. Hansen
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was surprised by the priest's advice.
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There is no evidence he ever gave the
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money to charity, but he did stop spying
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for a while. Unlike most spies, he had
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the self-control
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to stop. That occurred in 1981, and he
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didn't spy again until 1985. In the
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spring of 1985,
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Hansen is transferred to FBI
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headquarters in Washington. He moves his
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family to an upscale Virginia
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neighborhood to impress his wife. When
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he finds he cannot afford the home on
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his salary, Hansen decides to resume his
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spying for money. only this time he
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works out a scheme based on spycraft.
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He dropped a letter in a mailbox from
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Prince George's County outside of
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Washington. The letter was addressed to
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a Russian Victor Chakashin.
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Now Victor Chashen was a very important
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KGB agent in Washington. It was his job
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to recruit Americans. And so Hansen knew
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that if he offered him his services to
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Tracen, it was the top guy. This would
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that would get their attention and it
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did. That was the beginning. It was
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serendipity for the KGB. He fell into
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their lap. He uh took the initiative as
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you know. But from the point of view of
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getting a spy in the US intelligence
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community, they could not have done
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better than to get Hansen because Hansen
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was the keeper of the counter espionage
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secrets. He was in the inner sanctum. He
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was on top of all of the FBI's counter
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inelligence operations, particularly
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against the Soviets. So from the Soviet
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point of view, he was someone who could
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protect them and protect their
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operations in Washington and in the
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United States because he knew what the
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counter espionage techniques were. David
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Major sat next to Hansen at FBI
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headquarters. He says Hansen never
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volunteered to work field cases, never
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indicated in any way that he liked
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adventure or courted danger.
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Major says Hansen sat at his desk
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content as an agent analyst. Nothing
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suggested he was leading a double life.
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Bob Hansen never really was a
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fullfledged FBI counter inelligence
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street agent. He never met a Russian in
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his entire life. He never was
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undercover. He never ran a double agent
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case. He never ran an espionage case.
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But what he did do is he sat in judgment
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on other people in the FBI that
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conducted counter intelligence. And he
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did that on the fourth floor FBI
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headquarters. In fact, that's when the
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intelligence division is located. What
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made Hansen so valuable to the Russians
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was that he sat where the counter
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intelligence files were kept.
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My office when I was his boss was right
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down in the corner here or right over
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here. And Bob Hansen was just down the
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hall back in this area when he was the
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deputy chief of the Soviet analytical
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section. And that gave him access to
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almost everything. In fact, of all the
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people in the world that would know what
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the FBI knew about the KGB, Bob Hansen
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was probably one of 15 people during the
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period of 19 um 87 to 1990 that
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literally knew everything. And that's
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when he was sitting in uh this actually
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cubicle at FBI headquarters.
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Coming up, how Robert Hansen stole
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secrets from under the noses of his
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colleagues at FBI headquarters. So he
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was perfectly placed to know everything
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we knew about the KGB and what the FBI
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was doing against the KGB. That made him
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almost the perfect spy.
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[Music]
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Winter 1985 at FBI headquarters in
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Washington. Robert Hansen resumes his
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traitorous activities. It begins with a
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letter written to the Russian chief of
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counter intelligence in Washington.
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He hides that letter inside a large
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envelope he sends to another Russian, a
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clerk. He knows the FBI is not likely to
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intercept a letter written to a clerk.
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It is a simple trick, the kind of trick
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Hansen will perfect over the next two
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decades. That envelope had information
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in it of considerable value.
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For example, Robert Hansen chose a man
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in Moscow station he knew could go to
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the very top of the KGB so that no one
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else in Washington and for that matter
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no one up the ladder would know that he
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had provided the information. Author
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Robert Vise has seen the federal
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documents that detail Hansen's spycraft.
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In those documents, the Soviet spy chief
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contacted by Hansen is identified as
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Victor Chashen. Chashian was the number
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two ranking Russian official in
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Washington. He was the go-to guy if you
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wanted to be a spy. He sent that big
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envelope to a lower ranking official.
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That individual opened the envelope,
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found another envelope inside. On the
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envelope, Hansen had written, "Do not
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open. Deliver immediately to Victor
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Chashin." And that's exactly what
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happened. That envelope went immediately
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to Trashion. That information went
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immediately
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to the top of the KGB and Chashian knew
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immediately that Hansen was the real
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deal. So clearly he enjoyed the hunt and
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he enjoyed the hunt within the hunt
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because at the same time he was supposed
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to be hunting out Soviet spies. He was
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actually a Soviet spy. So he had a war
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within a war going. And that was a
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battle of wits that he probably enjoyed
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immensely. and he probably enjoyed
00:21:02
knowing while he sat in meetings with
00:21:04
his colleagues at the FBI that he was
00:21:07
actually working for the other side at
00:21:09
the same time they were all together
00:21:11
looking for agents of the other side. So
00:21:14
right from the start Hansen spycraft was
00:21:17
brilliant. He didn't screw around. He
00:21:19
provided them with information that was
00:21:21
verifiable. He requested cash and he
00:21:24
made it clear in that very first letter
00:21:27
that he would never meet them face to
00:21:29
face. that he had to be anonymous. He
00:21:32
used an alias
00:21:34
typically in his correspondence. He
00:21:36
never used his name Robert Hansen. Most
00:21:38
of the time he referred to himself by
00:21:41
the name Raone Garcia.
00:21:44
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Hansen established so-called dead drops,
00:21:49
secret locations in Washington Parks
00:21:51
where he would drop off the secrets and
00:21:53
the Russians would pick them up and drop
00:21:56
off the cash. He would pack the secrets
00:21:58
in black garbage bags and leave white
00:22:01
tape on trees to let the Russians know
00:22:03
when the goods had been delivered. The
00:22:05
Russians would clear the site,
00:22:08
pick up the documents,
00:22:10
signal to Hansen that the money was
00:22:13
there waiting for him, and he would
00:22:16
return,
00:22:18
pick up the cash undetected. He could
00:22:20
say to his wife and kids,
00:22:23
"I'm going to the grocery store down the
00:22:25
street. I know we need milk. What else
00:22:28
do we need?
00:22:30
Nobody suspected anything. He made it
00:22:32
clear to the Russians that he wouldn't
00:22:35
journey far.
00:22:37
No one ever thinks to look in somebody's
00:22:40
backyard because no one spies five
00:22:44
minutes from their home. He lived right
00:22:46
here on White Cedar Road. He selected a
00:22:49
dead drop which he could see from his
00:22:51
back porch. Now people say that doesn't
00:22:54
make a lot of sense. Actually, it's
00:22:55
brilliant because Bob Hansen knows that
00:22:58
the only way the FBI would know that
00:23:00
this bridge could be used by the KGB,
00:23:03
the FBI would stake it out. And to stake
00:23:06
it out, where would they use? They would
00:23:07
look at everybody who lives in the
00:23:09
neighborhood and they would say, "Oh,
00:23:11
look, this particular house right across
00:23:13
the street can actually see the dead
00:23:16
drop." And that was Bob Hansen's house.
00:23:18
And he knows the FBI would come to him.
00:23:20
He set up his own trip wire. He knew
00:23:23
that the FBI got onto the case, they
00:23:26
would come and tell him about it and he
00:23:28
would be able to preempt it or go quiet
00:23:31
or not fill the dead drop. Now, can you
00:23:33
imagine what we in the United States
00:23:36
would do if we left cash under a bridge
00:23:39
for someone? We would hide behind a
00:23:41
tree. We would want to take his picture.
00:23:44
We would have someone tailing him. We
00:23:46
could never ever avoid our sense of
00:23:51
curiosity and place it aside. But the
00:23:54
Russians, they are different. The
00:23:57
Russians care more about the value of
00:23:59
the information than they did about the
00:24:01
identity of this Ramon Garcia. And so
00:24:04
they resisted the normal temptation to
00:24:08
try to figure out who he was because
00:24:10
they knew Anson had made very clear he
00:24:13
was going to be in charge. he was going
00:24:15
to be in control and if he ever saw them
00:24:19
not playing by his rules, the flow of
00:24:22
information would stop and the game
00:24:24
would be over. Hansen worked in in a way
00:24:27
that was traditional to Soviet espionage
00:24:30
methods uh and to CIA methodologies in
00:24:33
the Soviet Union. For more than 17
00:24:37
years, Hansen hid his spying from his
00:24:39
supervisors. During that period, both
00:24:42
the CIA and FBI knew that several
00:24:44
American traders were selling secrets.
00:24:47
Hansen was never suspected.
00:24:51
From Budapest to Moscow and around the
00:24:53
world capitals, teams of counter
00:24:56
intelligence agents looked for spies.
00:25:02
Word was circulating in the intelligence
00:25:04
community that a dangerous leak was
00:25:07
threatening America.
00:25:10
Well, they formed a Molehunt team.
00:25:12
Obviously, they they knew they had lost
00:25:14
the two agents that, as it turned out,
00:25:16
Hansen had betrayed who were working.
00:25:18
They were KGB agents in Washington,
00:25:20
working for the FBI. They called back to
00:25:22
Moscow and they were executed.
00:25:25
Hansen kept filling the black bags with
00:25:27
secrets.
00:25:29
He'd received nearly $600,000 in cash.
00:25:33
He then turned over what was referred to
00:25:35
as the family jewels, our most important
00:25:38
secrets. Robert Hansen provided
00:25:40
information which covered issues related
00:25:44
to the United States internal security.
00:25:47
I mean related to the survival of the
00:25:50
United States. Investigators who've
00:25:52
studied Hansen don't believe he gave
00:25:55
away America's most important secrets
00:25:57
for money alone. Hansen's life as a
00:26:01
suburban family man and good Catholic
00:26:04
pald in comparison to the life he
00:26:06
fantasized.
00:26:08
He was spying during the mid80s and 90s
00:26:11
when a fictional London secret agent by
00:26:14
the name of Bond. James Bond was
00:26:17
thrilling audiences around the world.
00:26:20
If you carry a double O number, it means
00:26:22
you're licensed to kill, not get killed.
00:26:26
He was always the guy off to the side,
00:26:28
but there was also this excitement, you
00:26:30
know, here he is doing something really
00:26:32
exciting, spying for the Russians. So,
00:26:35
there was this other element as well,
00:26:38
aside from the money and his father and
00:26:40
sense of being an outsider of of James
00:26:43
Bond. And he carried a machine gun in
00:26:46
his car trunk, for example. And one of
00:26:49
his friends knew him, called him as a
00:26:51
joke, machine gun Bob. Of course, if
00:26:54
machine gun Bob Hansen was really going
00:26:57
to play James Bond, then he needed to
00:26:59
add some key elements to his suburban
00:27:02
life.
00:27:04
He needed to travel to exotic locations.
00:27:07
And most of all, he needed to be in the
00:27:10
company of beautiful women. Well, I'll
00:27:12
tell you something, Colony. You're one
00:27:14
of the most beautiful girls I've ever
00:27:16
seen.
00:27:18
Next, Hansen and the Stripper. A real
00:27:21
life spies dangerous game with a fem
00:27:24
fatal
00:27:30
[Music]
00:27:34
in Washington. The strip clubs near FBI
00:27:38
headquarters are somewhat discreet.
00:27:41
Hansen would often spend afternoons and
00:27:44
nights in these spots while he told his
00:27:46
wife he was on special assignment.
00:27:49
Robert Hansen. He sees a woman dancing
00:27:52
on the stage and he is captivated by
00:27:54
her. He thinks she is a beautiful dancer
00:27:57
and he wants to get to know her. And so
00:27:59
he writes her a note, tells her that she
00:28:02
is the most beautiful dancer he's ever
00:28:04
seen. She's graceful.
00:28:07
And he sends it to the back so that
00:28:09
someone can give her the note and a few
00:28:11
dollars. And as he's walking out of
00:28:13
Joanna's 1819 club, this woman,
00:28:16
Priscilla Gaye,
00:28:18
once named Ohio stripper of the year,
00:28:21
catches up to Bob Hansen. She says to
00:28:23
him, "Thank you for that beautiful note
00:28:26
that you wrote me. It's the nicest thing
00:28:28
anyone has ever said to me."
00:28:31
And he says,
00:28:33
"I'll be back to see you here. You have
00:28:37
a grace and a beauty I've never
00:28:39
encountered before.
00:28:41
[Music]
00:28:43
He rolled through official Washington
00:28:45
like a big-time player, not an obscure
00:28:48
bureaucrat in the FBI. He moved around
00:28:51
Washington in an Italian raincoat,
00:28:54
flashing dark glasses, often in rented
00:28:56
limousines with his stripper friend
00:28:58
waiting inside the fancy car.
00:29:02
Hansen loved having someone to spend
00:29:04
time with like Priscilla Gaye.
00:29:07
They took trips, one to Manhattan and
00:29:10
eventually a wild fling in Hong Kong
00:29:13
where he showed her the sights and
00:29:15
bought her lavish presents.
00:29:19
He enjoyed going to Hong Kong with this
00:29:21
beautiful girl on his arm cuz she was
00:29:24
very pretty and um she had a great body
00:29:27
dancing in a strip club and they would
00:29:29
go to nightclubs in Hong Kong after his
00:29:31
work was over for the FBI and he would
00:29:34
always ask uh at the piano bar that the
00:29:38
that the pianist pay play uh as time
00:29:40
goes by. So, here's looking at you, kid.
00:29:43
You know, I mean, this was maybe a
00:29:46
little combination of uh of Shan Connory
00:29:48
and Humphrey Bogart and a little Walter
00:29:50
Mitti thrown in. There was a fantasy
00:29:52
life here as well as uh a real life.
00:29:56
Hansen started taking nude photos of his
00:29:59
wife Bonnie. He shared them with his
00:30:01
friend Jack Horshower, who was on duty
00:30:03
in the military.
00:30:05
Bonnie asked him, "Why? Why are you
00:30:07
doing this? What is this about?" "Oh,
00:30:10
you're so beautiful." He told her, "I
00:30:12
love you so much. This is just something
00:30:15
for us." Jack Hoser gets an envelope in
00:30:17
the mail from Bob Hansen, his childhood
00:30:19
buddy. He opens it up. He's shocked. He
00:30:22
finds naked photographs of Bonnie
00:30:24
inside. Jack says to Bob, "Bob, there
00:30:27
must be some mistake. I I have
00:30:29
photographs of your wife here in the
00:30:31
nude. What's going on? Must be a
00:30:33
mistake." Hansen says, "No, no, Jack.
00:30:36
You're a real man. You're serving our
00:30:38
country. You're making the ultimate
00:30:40
sacrifice by being in Vietnam. I want
00:30:42
you to share in the joy and the pleasure
00:30:45
of seeing just how beautiful Bonnie is.
00:30:48
Not only did he photograph Bonnie nude,
00:30:51
but he put a small video camera inside
00:30:53
their bedroom. Bob Hansen said to Jack,
00:30:56
"I have a special treat for you. I want
00:30:58
you to watch tonight." Hansen beamed
00:31:01
live sex scenes from his bedroom. He and
00:31:04
his wife via closed circuit video within
00:31:06
the house, sitting in the den of their
00:31:09
home, Jackho Shower, watched the nightly
00:31:12
sex scene. It didn't stop there. Hansen
00:31:15
and his pal Jack visited various
00:31:19
pornographic websites together,
00:31:22
including one that went by the name
00:31:23
myhotwife.com.
00:31:25
But Hansen did something even Jack
00:31:27
didn't know about. Robert Hansen
00:31:30
posted on the internet erotic stories
00:31:34
about himself and his wife Bonnie. Some
00:31:36
of them true, some of them imagined,
00:31:39
some of them fantasy, some of them
00:31:41
embellished.
00:31:43
Hansen's sexual fantasies went
00:31:45
undetected at the bureau. A massive spy
00:31:48
hunt was underway, but his colleagues
00:31:51
were not looking at him. He would sit in
00:31:53
a meeting with us and we would talk
00:31:55
about catching spies. And in his mind,
00:31:58
he has to know he's the most powerful
00:32:01
man in the room. Even though he's
00:32:02
sitting as a wall sitter, he would never
00:32:05
sit at the desk. He would never be a
00:32:07
leader. But in essence, he was the
00:32:08
ultimate leader. Clearly, he deceived
00:32:10
everyone around him. He deceived his
00:32:12
wife and his family. Worst of all, not
00:32:15
to speak of his colleagues, but you
00:32:18
know, he may have deceived himself. and
00:32:20
he's he may have been his own ultimate
00:32:22
victim because again when you're a true
00:32:25
believer what you're doing you believe
00:32:27
in absolutely no matter what it is and
00:32:30
you find reasons to justify it and you
00:32:32
have to do that to retain your sanity
00:32:36
but Hansen would ultimately make a
00:32:38
mistake a little mistake which would
00:32:40
lead the FBI mole hunters to him
00:32:46
coming up how the feds finally stopped
00:32:49
Hansen and
00:32:58
[Music]
00:33:02
spring 2000. At the Russian mission to
00:33:05
the United Nations, their security
00:33:07
cameras were keenly watching the FBI
00:33:09
agents in the neighborhood. from Eastern
00:33:12
European listening posts. Rumors were
00:33:14
spreading that a former Russian KGB
00:33:17
agent was in New York City looking to
00:33:19
sell a file about the mole code name
00:33:22
Ramon Garcia or in reality the Hansen
00:33:26
file that he said he could help the FBI
00:33:30
more than they realized because he not
00:33:33
only had some information of value, he
00:33:36
had the actual file on the mole. When
00:33:40
they heard that, I mean, their eyes just
00:33:43
popped out of their head. They had to
00:33:44
have that file no matter what it cost.
00:33:47
So, the negotiations began and the
00:33:50
Russian was in no hurry to reach any
00:33:52
kind of a deal. He asked for a lot of
00:33:55
money and the FBI named a lower figure.
00:33:58
Eventually, they settled on $7 million.
00:34:02
But there was one catch. The man did not
00:34:05
have the file with him.
00:34:07
It was still in Moscow, not at KGB
00:34:10
headquarters, but nonetheless in Moscow.
00:34:13
He couldn't go back into the secret KGB
00:34:17
headquarters near Moscow and get a file
00:34:20
out. He was retired past armed guards. I
00:34:23
mean, he's not Tom Cruz, right? He's not
00:34:25
going to be able to do a Mission
00:34:26
Impossible. So, they asked him, you
00:34:28
know, how could you possibly have access
00:34:30
to this file? And he said, I took it
00:34:32
with me. I took it with me and I hid it.
00:34:35
and I'm the only one who knows where it
00:34:37
is. News of the potential breakthrough
00:34:39
was passed on to the CIA. Hansen, still
00:34:43
operating at FBI headquarters, was
00:34:45
unaware he was in danger of being
00:34:47
discovered. The defective provided uh
00:34:50
the entire file, which included some of
00:34:52
the garbage bags that Hansen had wrapped
00:34:55
some of his secret information in and
00:34:57
put in the dead drop. It included all
00:34:59
the correspondence between Hansen and
00:35:01
the Russians over many years. It
00:35:03
included some uh CDs that Hansen, being
00:35:07
very technical,
00:35:08
um sort of a computer geek, had turned
00:35:11
over to the Russians. It included uh the
00:35:15
names that he had copied down before he
00:35:18
took the file of all the documents that
00:35:22
Hansen had turned over because the
00:35:25
Russian figured he didn't need to pull
00:35:26
out all the actual documents. The
00:35:28
Americans would have the documents.
00:35:30
These were copies and all he needed was
00:35:32
to identify them. The file also included
00:35:35
an audio tape, a recording of a phone
00:35:38
conversation between the mole and the
00:35:40
KGB. Inside an FBI office in Washington,
00:35:44
a small group of senior officials
00:35:46
gathered to listen. It was hauntingly
00:35:48
familiar. Well, of course it was. And at
00:35:51
first, they didn't know who it was. So
00:35:53
they went back to the file and they
00:35:55
started looking at it and they found a
00:35:57
couple of phrases in the correspondence
00:36:00
that Hansen had sent to the KGB and
00:36:02
there was a phrase in there quoting
00:36:04
General Patton which they realized they
00:36:08
had heard that phrase before and the
00:36:10
phrase was supposedly from Patton's
00:36:13
famous speech to the troops just before
00:36:15
D-Day in in World War II in which he
00:36:18
referred to let's get this thing over
00:36:20
with the Germans so we can go after the
00:36:22
purple pissing Japanese.
00:36:24
Well, that's not that's an unusual
00:36:26
phrase. So, they listened to the tape
00:36:28
again and they all said, "Of course,
00:36:31
it's Bob Hansen."
00:36:33
The FBI men were stunned. The mole was
00:36:37
one of their own, one they never
00:36:39
suspected.
00:36:41
Hansen had made the mistake of leaving a
00:36:43
fingerprint and a voice print for the
00:36:45
FBI to discover. Armed with this
00:36:48
evidence, they set a trap for Hansen.
00:36:51
Hansen at that time was stationed in the
00:36:52
State Department for the FBI. They
00:36:54
wanted him back at headquarters so they
00:36:56
could put a video camera on him in his
00:36:58
office in the ceiling, unknown to him,
00:37:01
and keep an eye on him. And they watched
00:37:05
him and for a couple of months and at
00:37:07
one point they saw him actually going by
00:37:11
a dead drop and checking out the signs
00:37:14
to signals to see, you know. So they
00:37:16
they realized that not only did they
00:37:18
have the right person, which they knew
00:37:20
by then, but that he was still active,
00:37:21
which they didn't know at that point.
00:37:26
Then a forensics team came up with
00:37:28
Hansen's fingerprints lifted from a
00:37:31
black bag, the trash bag he'd used for
00:37:33
the secrets he had turned over to the
00:37:35
Russians. No one knows why he didn't
00:37:38
wear gloves, nor why the Russians kept
00:37:40
the bag. But now the FBI had its case
00:37:44
and moved against their target. I just
00:37:47
doubled over. I remember distinctly
00:37:50
hearing Robert Philip Hansen can't be my
00:37:53
Bob because I didn't know his name was
00:37:55
Philip and it was denial. I mean it was
00:37:56
just like hearing your son had died. To
00:37:59
think that Bob Hansen had been arrested
00:38:02
for espionage. Coming up after the
00:38:05
arrest, sober thoughts about a man who
00:38:08
deceived his wife, his family, and his
00:38:11
nation.
00:38:14
[Music]
00:38:18
The news of Robert Hansen's arrest
00:38:20
stunned official Washington. People
00:38:23
tried to make sense of the betrayal. Bob
00:38:25
Hansen was powerless, or at least he
00:38:28
thought he was in the FBI. But by
00:38:30
becoming a spy, he was the most powerful
00:38:33
counter inelligence official in the US
00:38:35
government because he could totally
00:38:38
control his relationship with the KGB.
00:38:41
He could make things happen in the FBI.
00:38:44
He clearly was someone who was obsessed.
00:38:47
He was obsessed with religion. Uh he he
00:38:49
was obsessed with a particular style of
00:38:52
living which he assumed was only the was
00:38:55
the only one that was worth living.
00:38:58
Robert Hansen was able to somehow be a
00:39:02
spy and be an FBI agent at the same time
00:39:05
for 20 years. He was able to be a loyal
00:39:07
husband and betray his wife for 20
00:39:10
years. So when he was in church praying,
00:39:12
he was a devout Catholic and he meant
00:39:14
every word of it. When he told his wife
00:39:16
that he loved her, he meant every word
00:39:18
of it. When he was with the stripper
00:39:22
Priscilla Gaye,
00:39:24
he enjoyed every minute of it.
00:39:27
And when he was committing espionage,
00:39:31
he wanted to be James Bond. And he was
00:39:34
better than Bond.
00:39:36
When confronted, Hansen admitted his
00:39:39
guilt and offered no explanation
00:39:41
publicly for his actions. He agreed to
00:39:44
cooperate in return for his wife's
00:39:46
protection. I think she turns out to be
00:39:49
a doormat for him. I mean, this is a
00:39:51
woman who did not appreciate nor
00:39:53
understand his uh access. They didn't
00:39:57
understand his real profession, the kind
00:39:59
of counter intelligence officer he was.
00:40:01
I mean, this is a woman who found him
00:40:03
spying in 79. And they chose to go to
00:40:07
talk to the priest and he says, "I won't
00:40:09
do it anymore." It was always behind the
00:40:11
scenes the great family secret that he
00:40:14
had done this. Turns out he did it again
00:40:16
starting in 1985. I think Hansen got
00:40:19
away uh with it because of the FBI
00:40:21
culture of not wanting to believe, you
00:40:23
know what, where there's smoke, there's
00:40:24
fire. Let's look at this guy. You have
00:40:26
to look at what he gave away. It was
00:40:28
very serious. Uh he gave away
00:40:31
information about our our assessment of
00:40:35
Soviet nuclear strength and their
00:40:37
assessment of how powerful our weapons
00:40:39
were. I mean this during the Cold War,
00:40:42
we all lived in a in a time of of fear
00:40:45
that there could be a nuclear
00:40:47
Armageddon. And he was giving away
00:40:48
information about that of great value.
00:40:51
and he was betraying human beings whose
00:40:54
lives were lost because of him. People
00:40:56
were shot because of him. So, you can't
00:40:59
feel very sorry for this guy. Hansen's
00:41:02
guilty plea avoided a public trial and
00:41:04
release of sensitive documents. He was
00:41:07
sentenced to life without parole. At
00:41:10
headquarters, the FBI chief hailed his
00:41:13
men for finding Hansen, but nobody in
00:41:16
counter intelligence was celebrating. It
00:41:18
had taken too long to catch him. too
00:41:21
much damage had been done and there was
00:41:23
a continuing fear that Hansen most
00:41:25
certainly would not be the last traitor.
00:41:29
It would be rather naive to believe that
00:41:32
this is the end of this story. Espionage
00:41:35
will never cease.
00:41:38
Even
00:41:39
though Russia and the United States
00:41:41
today are on fairly good terms, Russia
00:41:44
has its national interests. South Korea
00:41:46
has its national interest. Israel has.
00:41:48
Every nation has and the intelligence
00:41:51
services they operate
00:41:54
uh to provide their governments, their
00:41:57
societies with information which is
00:41:59
vital to their national security and
00:42:01
their national interests. Robert Hansen
00:42:04
is not the last one. Absolutely not.
00:42:06
David Major, Hansen's old boss and one
00:42:09
of those who thought they knew him best
00:42:11
had a final thought about the man he
00:42:13
misjudged.
00:42:15
It's an image he believes most people in
00:42:17
official Washington think of when
00:42:19
Hansen's name is mentioned. Bob Hansen
00:42:22
has been taken out of the world. Bob
00:42:24
Hansen lives in his cell 23 hours a day
00:42:27
with no social contact whatsoever. He
00:42:30
has four black and white television
00:42:33
shows to watch. He goes to the bathroom,
00:42:35
he sleeps, and he eats in that same
00:42:38
room. And he's taken out one hour a day
00:42:40
and put in a room by himself to
00:42:42
exercise. He's literally been taken out
00:42:45
of the world and he will be there until
00:42:47
he dies.
00:42:48
[Music]
00:42:54
[Music]
00:43:05
[Music]
00:43:11
[Music]
00:43:16
Hey,
00:43:22
[Music]
00:43:34
heat. Hey. Heat.
00:43:37
[Music]
00:43:42
Heat.
00:43:44
[Music]

Badges

This episode stands out for the following:

  • 85
    Most shocking
  • 85
    Biggest twist
  • 80
    Most intense
  • 80
    Most surprising

Episode Highlights

  • The Unlikely Spy: Robert Hansen
    Robert Hansen, a seemingly ordinary FBI agent, became one of the most notorious spies in U.S. history.
    “He was the most powerful counterintelligence official in the US government.”
    @ 00m 46s
    July 29, 2014
  • A Sinister Confession
    During a church service, Hansen feels the weight of his sins as the priest speaks.
    “Are you a sinner? God still loves you.”
    @ 02m 18s
    July 29, 2014
  • The Arrest of Robert Hansen
    Hansen's shocking arrest raises questions about how he evaded capture for so long.
    “What took you so long?”
    @ 04m 39s
    July 29, 2014
  • The Beautiful Dancer
    Hansen is captivated by a stripper named Priscilla Gaye, leading to a romantic connection.
    “Thank you for that beautiful note that you wrote me.”
    @ 28m 26s
    July 29, 2014
  • The Shocking Arrest
    Hansen's arrest stunned Washington, revealing the betrayal from within the FBI.
    “The mole was one of their own, one they never suspected.”
    @ 36m 37s
    July 29, 2014
  • The Double Life of Hansen
    Hansen managed to be both a loyal husband and a spy for 20 years, living a dangerous double life.
    “He was able to be a loyal husband and betray his wife for 20 years.”
    @ 39m 07s
    July 29, 2014

Episode Quotes

  • God still loves you.
    Mugshots: Robert Hanssen - Hanssen and the KGB
  • Things are not always the way they seem.
    Mugshots: Robert Hanssen - Hanssen and the KGB
  • What took you so long?
    Mugshots: Robert Hanssen - Hanssen and the KGB
  • It's the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me.
    Mugshots: Robert Hanssen - Hanssen and the KGB
  • I remember distinctly hearing Robert Philip Hansen can’t be my Bob.
    Mugshots: Robert Hanssen - Hanssen and the KGB
  • You can’t feel very sorry for this guy.
    Mugshots: Robert Hanssen - Hanssen and the KGB

Key Moments

  • The Devilishly Clever Spy00:10
  • Caught in the Act04:26
  • A Father's Critique07:11
  • The Dark Side of Hansen09:37
  • The Perfect Spy18:52
  • The Note28:26
  • Romantic Encounter28:37
  • Arrest Shock36:37

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