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Women Behind Bars - Season 2, Episode 12 - Natasha and LaSonya - Full Episode

January 12, 2021 / 44:11

This episode of Women Behind Bars covers the cases of Natasha Cornett and Lasonia Larry, focusing on their involvement in violent crimes. Natasha was implicated in the brutal murder of a religious family, while Lasonia confessed to fatally stabbing her boyfriend.

The episode recounts the tragic events of April 6, 1997, when Natasha, along with five friends, murdered Vidar and Delfina Lillylid and their two children. Natasha's troubled upbringing and descent into a life of crime are detailed, highlighting her role as a supposed ringleader in the group.

Lasonia's story reveals her turbulent childhood and history of abusive relationships, culminating in the death of her boyfriend Shedrid Bernie. The episode discusses her claims of self-defense and the circumstances leading to the fatal stabbing.

Both women's narratives illustrate the complexities of their lives, including mental health struggles, substance abuse, and the impact of their actions on their families.

Ultimately, the episode examines the consequences of their choices and the long-lasting effects on their lives and the victims' families.

TL;DR

Natasha Cornett and Lasonia Larry share their stories of violent crimes and the impact on their lives and victims' families.

Episode

44:11
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on this episode of women behind bars
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one woman pleads guilty in the group
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slaying of a religious family
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based upon the evidence they were
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preparing to
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go across country robbing and killing
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people
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i just screamed please don't hurt them
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please don't hurt them
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ah please don't hurt them
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then lasonia larry tells her story she
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confessed to the stabbing death of her
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live-in boyfriend
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he was standing naked in front of me he
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was like um
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you want to have sex i was like no i'm
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not having no sex there's a pattern of
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doing drugs and stabbing all her
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boyfriends
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two women two brutal murders these are
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the stories of natasha cornett and
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lasonia larry
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on april 6 1997 the bullet riddled
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bodies of 34 year old vidar lillylid
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his 28 year old wife delfina and their
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two young children were found along a
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road about a mile from interstate 81.
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they were devoutly faithful and humble
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people
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who were shot to death
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for their car vidar and delfina were
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already deceased when police arrived
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six-year-old tabitha and two-year-old
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peter were helicoptered to a local
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hospital
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where tabitha was pronounced dead the
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following day and peter remained in
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critical condition
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this is one of the worst murders that
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i've ever witnessed in the last 30 years
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within days 18 year old natasha cornett
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and five friends were arrested as prime
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suspects in a case that would make
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national headlines she was the one that
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was practicing
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satanic worship she is the person that
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created the events that came together on
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that
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april the 6th of 1997. one of the
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statements we
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retrieved from a young girl natasha had
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called her and told her they were going
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to start armageddon
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if she's been going to kill anybody it
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should have killed me
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was natasha cornett the ringleader of a
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hateful satanic cult
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or was she simply with the wrong crowd
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at the wrong time
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natasha cornett grew up in a small
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devoutly religious mining town
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in the foothills of the appalachian
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mountains it's a very beautiful
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scenery to grow up in but it's a
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suffocating place to live
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she had energy to burn she liked to draw
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to read she left dogs
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and babies as a young student natasha
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earned top grades in her class
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but when she was in middle school she
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awoke one morning to find that her
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mother now divorced
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had overdosed with prescription drugs my
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mom was on the bed
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naked with a bottle of pills laying
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next to her i didn't know she was dying
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natasha i know she it
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did something to her it messed with me
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although madonna wallen recovered
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natasha began a downward spiral of
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anti-social behavior
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i started cutting things out of my you
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know diet
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the less i eat the better i felt it
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wasn't one area that i did have control
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of
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she lost 30 pounds in one month to make
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matters worse
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relations between mother and daughter
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became increasingly volatile
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as natasha continued to act out i used a
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belt one time
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and the buckle slipped from my hand
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and it hit her on the back of the leg
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but it made a bruise on her
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on the advice of a doctor natasha was
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admitted to charter ridge behavioral
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health system in lexington
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the center found her to be a danger to
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herself and others yet they just
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released her after 11 days
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diagnosed as bipolar she continued to
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see a counselor
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but felt she did not get the care and
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attention she needed from adults in her
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life
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in the seventh grade she just
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started changing the clothes the big
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baggy paints the big shirts
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she wore a rope with the emblems you
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know hanging
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everybody thought it was weird i started
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drinking and smoking and
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associating with people that were weird
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you didn't have to
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be perfect around them in high school
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natasha continued to feel like an
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outcast and banded together with
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like-minded friends
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the closest of whom was karen howell
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karen was
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my life raft she was the only person
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that understood me and let me be me
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she knew my pain she had went through
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the same stuff
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teens like natasha they have a
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thrill-seeking personality
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and need that stimulation because just
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sitting around leading a normal life
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feels boring to them
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karen and natasha started dabbling in
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dark activities
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that would eventually build into a
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cult-like behavior
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everything that we did though it was
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very destructive it was all
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self-destructive
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nothing was ever done that was harmful
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to anybody
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but ourselves i started cutting because
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i was going through a rough time with my
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mom it was a release
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in the ninth grade natasha dropped out
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of school and on her 17th birthday
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she married steve cornett we had been
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friends for a while
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it seemed like the logical thing to do
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but the marriage was short-lived when
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after about six months
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steve abruptly drove away and never
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returned
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it was awful i just
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kind of caved in on myself after a brief
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trip to new orleans a few weeks later
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natasha sat the company of a widening
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circle of friends
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seventeen-year-old karen howell and
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natasha were already close
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eighteen-year-old crystal sturgill had
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been in natasha's grade
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two guys who regularly joined the group
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were 19-year-old edward dean mullins a
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church-going friend with no prior record
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and 20-year-old joe reisner natasha and
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her fellow outcasts would hang out at
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her mother's trailer
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i had been friends with joe for a while
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right before the crime occurred
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joe was dating karen crystal needed a
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place to stay
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and she was friends with dean while
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drinking excessively and getting high
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the friends would play games related to
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the occult natasha
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started hearing voices and talking to
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people on the ouija board
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her and karen fed on each other and it
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just kept
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you know getting worse teens who
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gravitate towards the dark side of the
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occult are simply doing so to find
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something that is more powerful than
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themselves despite finding a growing
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range of activities to keep her busy
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natasha continued to feel stultified by
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the small town of pikeville kentucky
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and she longed to escape she went away
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from all the people that
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that called her freak all i could think
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of is i need out i need out i need help
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i can't breathe i need
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out when women behind bars continues
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peter was being held by his mother when
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he was shot
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he had his legs wrapped around her waist
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and his arms around
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her neck and his back was to the gun
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and he was struck by two bullets
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i screamed please don't hurt don't
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please
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jason he's like stop
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crying
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by the time natasha cornett was 18 the
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high school dropout with a diagnosis of
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bipolar disorder had been in a failed
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marriage and was hell-bent on
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self-destruction
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authorities believed her to be the
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ringleader of a group of friends who
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spent their time at her mother's trailer
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drinking getting high and dabbling in
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the occult
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they all shared at least one prevailing
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yearning they wanted to vanish from the
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small town where they grew up
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as fate would have it though they would
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soon become notorious for shooting a
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devout family of four in which only the
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youngest child survived
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the most recent addition to the circle
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was fourteen-year-old jason bryant
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jason didn't make a huge impact on me he
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seemed
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dangerous like people pretend to be bad
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i thought that that was just his hook he
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was the bad boy
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i got the feeling from people we talked
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to that he was
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not as controllable on april 4 1997 the
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group spent the night partying at one of
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their usual haunts
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the cauli motel we had been hanging out
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and
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drinking we went to the hotel room i
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think on a friday night
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there was some blood and they had burnt
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some places in the carpet
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with burning candles me and karen just
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started cutting
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and at first it was just too cut
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and then i wanted to die i thought
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eventually if i kept myself so many
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times
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i would just bleed out the other people
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that had been there with them partying
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their statements led us to believe that
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they've been having a satanism a seance
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mostly it was just me and karen drinking
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each other's blood
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we just didn't do seances natasha told
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me they set the place on fire
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the management was gonna call the cops
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karen had just
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got in trouble and she didn't want to go
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juvenile
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and jason just got out of juvenile and
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he didn't want to go back
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and i was ready to run away at any given
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moment so it just kind of
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came together we were all going to run
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away joe was on spring break from school
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and he was the only one with a car
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they wanted to go to new orleans because
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that's the only place i was familiar
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with
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and i said i wouldn't go back down there
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without some kind of protection
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natasha according to her mom had been
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raped in new orleans
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said she wasn't going to be raped again
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but according to the prosecution
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natasha and her gang had a different
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motive prior to leaving
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the defendants would watch natural-born
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killers
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that movie depicts individuals who are
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carefree
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killing people there don't appear to be
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from that movie any consequences
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they may have felt that there were going
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to be no consequences for their actions
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natasha was the one that wanted jason
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and the
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other kids to get a gun and she also
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told me that they had plans to go
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carjacking
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the teens left kentucky in a compact
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hatchback chevy citation
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and drove through the virginia panhandle
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where they were pulled over for speeding
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the officer did not search the car if he
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had
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he would have found two handguns
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acquired for protection
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according to testimony there was talk of
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ditching the citation along the way
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and getting another car based upon the
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evidence
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of what their their stated purpose was
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the night before
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they left they were preparing to leave
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pikeville
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and go across country robbing and
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killing people
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driving south through eastern tennessee
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they pulled over at the belton rest stop
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in greene county
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according to natasha for one reason only
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karen needed to pay
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that's it among the people milling about
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the rest stop were the lilly lids
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a family of jehovah's witnesses 34 year
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old vidar
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a native of norway and his wife delfina
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had moved to tennessee from miami to
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raise their children
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six-year-old tabitha and two-year-old
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peter in a safer more peaceful
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environment
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the little is a warm family very caring
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kind-hearted people vidar worked as a
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bellman his wife was a stay-at-home
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mother
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they lived simply walked most
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everywhere from work to church they had
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been to
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a religious gathering they had stopped
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on their way home and i think they were
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sort of proselytizing a little bit there
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at the
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rest area it was just part of their
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religion that they go out
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and and try and talk to people they saw
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the defendant's unusual appearance they
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might have appeared to to need some
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discussion about the lord vidar and
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alfina began to talk about their
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religion
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and the group followed up with questions
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some of the teens invited the lilly lids
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over to the picnic area for a more
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private discussion
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natasha claimed she and karen followed
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to keep a close watch on things
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when i talked to natasha and other
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people about what happened they said
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that
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joe reisner went back to the car and got
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his gun and told
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her that something was going to happen
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as natasha tells it
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she had a bad feeling right from the
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start when joe wanted to talk to a
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jehovah's witness about religion
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things didn't add up and then him and
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jason walked off together
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i told karen something was wrong and
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then he pulled out a gun joseph
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verizoner described the abduction
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during the sentencing phase and he was
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the one that actually
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pulled the gun natasha says she tried to
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stop joe but there was no turning back
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joe pointed the loaded weapon at the
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lily lid family and started making
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demands
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he was just like nothing's going to
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happen
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we just need your car and all i could do
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was
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like look at them and apologize vidar
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was fearful and immediately offered his
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wallet
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said take the car take my money please
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don't hurt my family
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joe attempted to reassure him that he
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was not going to hurt him
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they got in the van crystal and dean
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followed in the chevy citation
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natasha says she got in the van with the
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others hoping to prevent things from
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getting worse
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i didn't think that the people that i
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was around could actually
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do anything bad
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even jason i thought i could stop
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something
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but authorities say it was natasha who
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engineered the entire plan
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it became apparent from interviews in
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kentucky
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and talking to a lot of their friends
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that natasha was the one that
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was perceived by the group to have power
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to draw on
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demons and was the driving force in the
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group
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natasha wanted to be more than just a
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a leader she wanted to give the orders
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to karen
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to jason bryant edward mullins came from
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a very good home
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but she manipulated him to do things for
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her the rest of them were
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following her and were drawn into this
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by her
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she had the control to stop the
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situation
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at any time i think the whole time the
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little it felt like oh we'll probably
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get away or we can talk them out of this
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because they were saying
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we know we're safe with you they left
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the interstate
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it was abandoned road then they turned
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onto a dead end road
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the lilitz were ordered out of the car
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when they got to payne hollow road
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joe reisner apparently told him to stand
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in a ditch jason just pulled
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pulled the gun up and pointed it at him
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all i could see was rage on his face
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and joe walked away from it
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he was like i can't do that and i got in
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front of the gun and i was like
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jason what are you doing and he was just
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like i'll shoot you
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he was kissing
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and get the step out of the way get the
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other way
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move unless you want to die move
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i won't move until he promised me that
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he at least would not hurt the kids
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and then i moved what happened next
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would become the source of enormous
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controversy about whether it had been
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planned or impulsive
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and also who controlled the events that
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unfolded what detached
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told me is that jason took the gun and
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shot vadar first in the head
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then delfina then went up to tabitha and
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put the gun
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point blank to her tabitha
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had been shot in the head peter
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was being held by his mother when he was
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shot
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she was facing the gun and she was
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holding peter
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he had his legs wrapped around her waist
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and his arms around her neck and was
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holding on to her
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so that his back was to the gun and
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he was struck by two bullets and what i
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understood from natasha is that jason
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went back to the car got another gun
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and shot a number of more times because
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there were 17 total shots
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from friends i've heard other things
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like joe got involved and started
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shooting too
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and that seems a little bit more
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plausible because of the way the shots
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were
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i didn't watch i sat down in the van and
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just screamed
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please don't hurt them please don't hurt
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them ah please don't hurt them
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oh nice jason he's like stop
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crying he just left
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but police believe that natasha was more
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involved in the shootings than she
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admits
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i think natasha put him up to it
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i think that she um instruct them how to
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fire the
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weapons in the matter that they were
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fired and once it was done
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they had to figure out how to get out
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and leave when they got their
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car stuck then they took the little lids
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van the
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teenagers drove over the victims bodies
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as they left the area
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they left their abandoned car and got on
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the interstate
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and left when women behind bars
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continues
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one of the first things i remember is
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some attorney talking about
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his client he says natasha cornett
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has informed him that she is the
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daughter of satan
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and i just thought something's wrong and
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later
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he ain't never gonna beat you again okay
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and i mean i even have freedom against
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my life
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on april 6 1997 natasha cornett and five
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friends took part in a massacre of a
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family of jehovah's witnesses
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according to natasha she did not pull
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the trigger but was too stunned to do
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anything except go along with her group
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after you witnessed something that
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atrocious i didn't know what to do
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the alleged killers abandoned their
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chevy citation at the scene of the crime
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and made their getaway in the victim's
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van headed towards mexico
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through douglas arizona the original
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plan i think was to go to new orleans
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and then it changed to mexico when they
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got into trouble
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in the meantime a local resident alerted
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the greene county sheriff's department
00:19:06
to the gun shots
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heard off of payne hollow lane i backed
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down the road i looked over to valencia
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and that's when i seen the little lid
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family laying there on the bank
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we knew that one of them was a live
00:19:17
little peter and the little girls are
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breathing
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we got on ready on call for ems to come
00:19:23
to assist us
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an emergency medical services crew
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arrived minutes later
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there was no identification on either
00:19:30
vidar or delfina lillylid
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we found a pager on the mail we were
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able to
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find out that a van was registered to
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him but then the car that was left there
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was a chevrolet citation
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and it was stripped of its
00:19:44
identification
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although the group had taken the
00:19:46
citations license plates they had left
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the vehicle identification number
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the vin basically was useless without
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knowing what state it was
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so we searched the car and we found one
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receipt that had been left behind from a
00:20:00
store in pikeville kentucky and we knew
00:20:03
now that the van that had left was most
00:20:06
probably the lillywood van and that
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these victims
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were probably victimized by
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one or more of the six people who
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occupied the citation
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a description of the van was broadcast
00:20:18
nationwide while investigators went to
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pikeville to interview the parents and
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friends of the group
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including natasha's mother the group was
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considered armed and dangerous
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they had been down into mexico
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and as they were coming back through
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the uh computers at the border had uh
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not been functioning so that the border
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couldn't
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check on who was coming in and out but
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just as that group came back
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in the computers suddenly started
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working
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and when they put the license tag into
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the system they got a hit
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and they were arrested there in arizona
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those defendants who were adults were
00:21:01
informed that the state would seek the
00:21:03
death penalty if convicted of the
00:21:04
lilly-lid murders
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under the law karen howell and jason
00:21:08
bryant could not be charged with the
00:21:10
death penalty since they were under 18
00:21:12
when the crime was committed
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as natasha and the other defendants
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arrived to be booked into jail
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there was a standing room only crowd
00:21:19
outside the jail on the streets and at
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the courthouse
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they wanted to get a look at these kids
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they'd
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been heavily covered on television and
00:21:27
newspapers and their pictures had been
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plastered everywhere
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they had begun to take on a
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larger-than-life status
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they were brought up individually six
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separate police cruisers
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and the first one arrived the crowd
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began to shout you murderers
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you're gonna fry rot in jail
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you baby killers
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[Applause]
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as the state built their case against
00:21:55
the defendants each member of the group
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hired attorneys to represent them
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at first eric kahn was natasha's
00:22:01
attorney after
00:22:02
eric khan got started with
00:22:06
the devil worship and the
00:22:10
vampirism it kept getting you know worse
00:22:13
and worse
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i didn't tell him that i even had any
00:22:16
inclination towards that
00:22:18
all i knew was here was a lawyer saying
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that he wanted to
00:22:21
represent me pro bono at no point have i
00:22:23
ever been a satanist
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ever i remember some attorney holding a
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press conference in arizona
00:22:30
about his client he says natasha cornett
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has informed him that she is the
00:22:37
daughter of satan
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and i just thought something's wrong as
00:22:41
natasha tells it the damage to her case
00:22:43
was irreparable once something like that
00:22:45
said i mean you can't just like
00:22:47
take it back khan was replaced by stacy
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street as natasha's attorney
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this is the first time he has agreed to
00:22:54
an interview about the case
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we have to stop the bad publicity all
00:22:59
death penalty cases
00:23:01
are are scary because
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state can literally kill your client
00:23:07
it was the prosecution's contention that
00:23:09
based on the evidence
00:23:10
all six defendants were involved in the
00:23:12
murders and should be tried together
00:23:15
each one of these killers
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took an individual trophy from their
00:23:22
victims
00:23:23
and kept it attached to a chain in the
00:23:26
wallet
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karen howell had peter's social security
00:23:29
card one had hello kitty merch dice and
00:23:31
was identified as having belonged to
00:23:33
tabitha natasha cornett she had a
00:23:36
tabitha's social security card in her
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wallet
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the prosecution also alleged that
00:23:41
natasha was not only involved in the
00:23:43
shootings
00:23:43
but was the ringleader as well they
00:23:46
looked up next to natasha
00:23:48
she would get the motel rooms she had
00:23:50
ways of getting those drugs there and
00:23:52
the other kids would follow
00:23:54
it was always natasha cornett the
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ringleader the daughter of satan
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average person on the street probably
00:24:01
couldn't name any of the other
00:24:03
individuals but they knew natasha
00:24:04
cornett
00:24:05
i had to blame eric kahn for that
00:24:08
but right before the trial was to begin
00:24:11
district attorney general barkley bell
00:24:13
offered the defendants a plea bargain
00:24:15
based on the evidence that a key witness
00:24:17
for the prosecution would be compromised
00:24:19
we were very concerned that the proof
00:24:22
might focus
00:24:23
on the juveniles as being the
00:24:26
shooters juveniles can't get the death
00:24:28
penalty
00:24:30
and if they couldn't get the death
00:24:31
penalty we were concerned that
00:24:34
no one else would get the death penalty
00:24:36
either what we reached was
00:24:37
an agreement that we'd have a hearing
00:24:40
in exchange for pleading guilty the four
00:24:43
adults would be exempt from receiving
00:24:44
the death penalty
00:24:46
all six defendants would be heard at the
00:24:48
same sentencing hearing
00:24:49
stacy street discussed natasha's options
00:24:51
with her including a last-minute plea
00:24:53
deal
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offered by the prosecution the offer has
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to be accepted
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by that day it's all or nothing everyone
00:25:01
has to take it
00:25:03
we were very clear with her that if she
00:25:05
accepted this deal
00:25:06
as young as she was at the time then she
00:25:09
would probably spend the rest of her
00:25:11
life in prison
00:25:12
natasha and the others accepted the deal
00:25:15
all pled guilty
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to three charges of first-degree murder
00:25:18
and one charge of attempted murder
00:25:20
there was a possibility that they might
00:25:22
all receive the same sentence
00:25:25
the defendants had differing stories
00:25:27
about who pulled the trigger
00:25:28
and if there was one shooter or several
00:25:31
you had six defendants
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each of whom was interested in their own
00:25:36
welfare
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so you had stories that contradicted
00:25:40
each other
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natasha and karen wept a lot they
00:25:51
expressed a lot of remorse
00:25:53
at the fact that people had been killed
00:25:56
that their child had been left an orphan
00:25:59
at the same time they denied
00:26:03
having anything to do with the guns
00:26:05
being shot
00:26:06
i don't think i have any choice in the
00:26:08
case ms cornett but to
00:26:10
sentence you to life imprisonment
00:26:11
without the possibility of parole
00:26:14
it's been my position that that was
00:26:18
a type of initiation into that group
00:26:22
that everybody had to participate in the
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[Music]
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shooting
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life without parole is a death penalty
00:26:42
they come out
00:26:43
in a box it just takes longer to impose
00:26:47
the final penalty
00:26:50
she wasn't the shooter she got the same
00:26:53
thing as the shooter
00:26:55
i went to the women's prison and
00:26:57
interviewed
00:26:58
natasha and karen and crystal i
00:27:00
explained that peter was in counseling
00:27:02
and natasha
00:27:03
became emotional and asked me could he
00:27:06
walk yet how was he emotionally
00:27:09
and she wept and asked me then to relay
00:27:12
to the family
00:27:14
her her deep regret and her wish that
00:27:18
he would make a full recovery
00:27:27
at 30 years old natasha is serving her
00:27:30
sentence at the tennessee prison for
00:27:32
women
00:27:32
she is a licensed cosmetologist and has
00:27:35
earned her high school equivalency
00:27:36
diploma
00:27:37
11 years i'm an entirely different
00:27:40
person
00:27:41
i hope to gain as much education as i
00:27:43
possibly can here
00:27:45
she and her mother hope that teens who
00:27:47
have similar problems know that they can
00:27:49
get help
00:27:50
you don't have to resort to negative
00:27:52
things
00:27:53
like cutting or trying to die
00:27:57
if nobody is helping you
00:28:00
go on a website talk to people peter
00:28:04
lillylid is now a teenager
00:28:05
and lives with relatives peter
00:28:08
made amazing progress at the time the
00:28:11
shooting happened
00:28:13
natasha has a message for him peter
00:28:16
deserves a better life and for april 6
00:28:18
to never happened
00:28:23
[Music]
00:28:27
next up on women behind bars no thought
00:28:30
went through my head i just grabbed the
00:28:31
knife
00:28:32
when i grabbed the knife i swung it
00:28:35
for more information about women behind
00:28:37
bars go to
00:28:38
wetv dot com
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[Music]
00:28:50
on march 23 2007 lasonia larry
00:28:53
a crack addict with a turbulent history
00:28:55
of domestic altercations
00:28:57
fatally stabbed her boyfriend shedrid
00:28:59
bernie
00:29:01
lasagna will cut somebody in a minute
00:29:04
but
00:29:05
i don't see her just brutally murdering
00:29:08
somebody i don't
00:29:10
lasonia fled and spent the night smoking
00:29:12
crack cocaine
00:29:14
she did not call 9-1-1 or contact police
00:29:17
shedrid's body was discovered the next
00:29:18
day there's a pattern of doing drugs
00:29:21
and stabbing all her boyfriends and she
00:29:24
was going to play the role of the victim
00:29:27
and say she did this in self-defense i
00:29:30
regret it
00:29:31
but i don't even have skills to cry i
00:29:34
don't believe
00:29:35
you beating me so much i don't believe
00:29:38
she intended to kill him i believe she
00:29:40
intended to hurt him
00:29:42
and figured it'd just be like all the
00:29:44
rest she'd cut him he wouldn't prosecute
00:29:46
that'd be the end of it
00:29:48
did lasonia larry stab her boyfriend in
00:29:50
self-defense
00:29:52
or was she a violent drug addict who is
00:29:54
out of control
00:30:12
as a child lasonia knew her father
00:30:14
willie as a generous man
00:30:16
dad would always bring gifts every time
00:30:18
he comes to grandmother's house
00:30:19
but her mother claudette was not as
00:30:21
predictable claudette she was on drugs
00:30:24
she was in the streets she was living
00:30:25
with different guys you know here and
00:30:27
there
00:30:28
lasonia's childhood was playful but an
00:30:30
accident in her use
00:30:32
damaged her eyesight on one eye we were
00:30:34
playing on the railroad tracks
00:30:36
and when we both turned around some boys
00:30:38
were throwing rocks and
00:30:40
that rock hit her in the left eye
00:30:43
lasonia was left partially blind but the
00:30:46
pain from that incident was overshadowed
00:30:48
by claudette's absence in her life
00:30:50
as a young adolescent lasonia became
00:30:52
defiant and would stay out late
00:30:54
searching for her mother
00:30:55
she couldn't always find claudette when
00:30:57
she couldn't find her she'd come
00:30:59
and she'd just go in the room and cry
00:31:01
she used to tell me her mom was dead
00:31:04
by seventh grade lasonia started
00:31:06
skipping school because she was losing
00:31:08
hope that she would ever be with
00:31:09
claudette
00:31:10
she said her mother wasn't there so she
00:31:12
felt like no one else cared
00:31:13
but they did care the young rebel missed
00:31:16
almost the entire year of seventh grade
00:31:18
and never went back when i first stopped
00:31:21
going to school
00:31:21
i was basically stealing shoes stealing
00:31:24
little short sets
00:31:27
hanging just hanging out at other
00:31:28
people's house doing nothing by her
00:31:32
teens lasonia was hustling
00:31:34
and turning tricks i think she was just
00:31:36
trying to follow her mother's steps
00:31:39
lasonia was 15 when she became a mother
00:31:41
she named the baby janelle
00:31:43
it was wonderful i want to do everything
00:31:46
for her
00:31:46
in the first two years it was like that
00:31:48
and
00:31:49
then i want to go back and hang with the
00:31:51
boys and run the streets
00:31:53
in order for lasonia to make room for
00:31:55
her social activities
00:31:56
janelle was left with relatives just as
00:31:58
lasonia had been when she was a little
00:32:00
girl
00:32:01
to me she was a good mother she took
00:32:03
care of her but when she wasn't there
00:32:04
she was
00:32:05
to me a bad mother lisonia again became
00:32:08
a fixture on the streets
00:32:09
but denied rumors of her drug use i
00:32:12
asked about it she said girl don't
00:32:13
listen to them they line it think about
00:32:15
drugs ain't no drugs
00:32:16
by her late teens she landed in prison
00:32:18
for the first time on charges of
00:32:20
possession and sale of crack cocaine
00:32:22
i got a year and a day in prison
00:32:26
and i did like two months or so and i
00:32:29
was like
00:32:30
this all i got more defiant
00:32:33
the former convict followed her first
00:32:35
prison sentence with more arrests
00:32:37
related to cocaine
00:32:38
i just always stayed just on that one
00:32:41
path
00:32:42
and it was a path of destruction by the
00:32:45
time lasonia turned 22 her mother had
00:32:47
passed away
00:32:48
and lasonia's drug use escalated the day
00:32:51
that we buried her
00:32:52
i would put the crack on the can the way
00:32:54
i seen people smoking
00:32:56
and i've been smoking crack ever since
00:32:59
until my arrest
00:33:00
[Music]
00:33:01
lasonia would spend the next several
00:33:03
years turning to reckless sex to support
00:33:05
her drug habit
00:33:07
i got six girls all of them from
00:33:09
different mans
00:33:11
three of them addicted to drugs
00:33:14
except for janelle lasonia did not see
00:33:16
much of her daughters
00:33:17
they were either cared for by relatives
00:33:19
or adopted
00:33:20
the childless mother could not find a
00:33:22
safe haven for herself
00:33:24
and admits to creating a chaotic
00:33:25
environment in her relationships as well
00:33:28
if there wasn't a guy abusing me
00:33:31
at times i felt like well this this man
00:33:34
don't love me
00:33:35
physical fights with boyfriends like
00:33:37
alex grimsley became common
00:33:39
lasagna would say she wants this and
00:33:42
they want that then i would say no
00:33:46
i'm not going to get it then
00:33:49
that would start an argument right there
00:33:52
i'm not gonna sit here and say i was an
00:33:54
angel but i never initiated i saw you
00:33:57
cut me in my head
00:33:59
with a box cutter she gave me 17 staples
00:34:03
because i told her no that i wasn't
00:34:06
going to get
00:34:07
any more drugs for her
00:34:11
she's known for cutting that's the truth
00:34:15
alex and two other men filed aggravated
00:34:17
battery reports against the hostile
00:34:19
addict but she was never formally
00:34:21
charged
00:34:22
the cycle repeated until shedrid bernie
00:34:24
entered her life
00:34:26
he was just everything that i hadn't had
00:34:29
he was supportive
00:34:30
he was caring he was romantic
00:34:35
mutual friend robert barnes liked to go
00:34:37
fishing with shedrid
00:34:38
who everyone knew as rat rat did
00:34:41
anything for anybody
00:34:44
you know without any strings attached
00:34:46
but lasonia's daughter
00:34:48
janelle believes there were conditions
00:34:49
to the relationship
00:34:51
whenever he wanted sex he gave her money
00:34:54
she wanted to got her drugs she came
00:34:55
making how she cleaned
00:34:57
cooked it was basically a living
00:34:59
prostitute
00:35:00
lisonia says she had real feelings for
00:35:02
rat it was an experience she was not
00:35:04
accustomed to having
00:35:06
cedric provided that security i really
00:35:09
started to feel something right there
00:35:11
but i think i fell in love with him
00:35:14
about two or three months but lasonia
00:35:17
had been warned
00:35:18
a friend in the neighborhood told her to
00:35:20
stay away from rat
00:35:21
she said that's bad man or you would you
00:35:24
have a history of being on women
00:35:25
lo and behold four five months later i'm
00:35:28
at rats how i'm living with him now
00:35:31
and um the beating stars
00:35:34
when women behind bars continues i was
00:35:37
like well
00:35:38
rap i'm not having sex it's simple is
00:35:40
that so he slapped me
00:35:49
[Music]
00:35:54
lasonia larry a middle school dropout
00:35:56
and drug addict was in and out of jail
00:35:58
most of her adult life
00:36:00
after what she calls several abusive
00:36:02
relationships she met
00:36:03
shedrid bernie an older man friends
00:36:05
called rat who tried to help her
00:36:08
i think rat had got lasagna off of drugs
00:36:10
for a while
00:36:11
she was looking different and she just
00:36:13
seemed like she was so happy
00:36:15
i don't think they were happy that's
00:36:16
just put on something you know to show
00:36:18
people that
00:36:19
they were happy in front of other people
00:36:22
lasonia says friends did not know what
00:36:24
happened when she was alone with rat
00:36:26
he would just beat me kick me stomp me
00:36:30
he broke said you broke my nose once and
00:36:33
the alleged abuse came in different
00:36:35
forms
00:36:36
he would always try to knock my
00:36:38
self-esteem down always
00:36:40
i never had a problem with my looks i
00:36:42
had a pretty smile
00:36:43
i think i had pretty eyes i never let
00:36:46
him got my self-esteem down
00:36:48
because that was that defiant in me
00:36:51
lasonia continued to stay with rat and
00:36:53
found comfort in something familiar
00:36:56
crack cocaine she wasn't ready to give
00:36:59
up the drugs
00:37:00
the drug is a disease it's a sickness
00:37:04
when i relapse i think i really dug a
00:37:07
hole
00:37:08
and got in there because i just i
00:37:11
really didn't care then by 2006
00:37:14
lasonia and rat each made domestic
00:37:16
disturbance calls to police
00:37:18
but with nowhere else to go she kept
00:37:20
returning to the house after each
00:37:21
dispute
00:37:29
he comes home it's about five o'clock in
00:37:31
the evening
00:37:32
and i wanted some blue crabs and i was
00:37:35
like um can you go up to the market and
00:37:37
get me some crabs
00:37:38
and he was like he is a crab so i
00:37:40
started laughing at him
00:37:42
despite an argument the night before rat
00:37:45
got lasagna the crabs and some beer
00:37:47
after he prepared the meal for her he
00:37:49
took a bath
00:37:50
and then he came back out and he was
00:37:52
standing naked in front of me he was
00:37:54
like um
00:37:55
you want to have sex i was like no i'm
00:37:57
not having no sex
00:37:58
rat got dressed but as lasonia tells it
00:38:01
he was upset that even after he made her
00:38:03
dinner and got her beer
00:38:04
lasonia had refused to have sex with him
00:38:07
i was like well
00:38:08
rat i'm not having sex just simply is
00:38:10
that so he slapped me
00:38:13
i dropped my head back down and i went
00:38:15
to eat some more crabs
00:38:17
and he slapped me again
00:38:20
and i looked up at him i had tears
00:38:22
coming out of my eyes
00:38:24
i said you know i'm just really sick of
00:38:26
you putting your hands on me
00:38:27
but before i can go out the front door
00:38:28
he had already went out
00:38:30
he'd come back with this long piece of
00:38:32
antenna like thing
00:38:33
and he hit me with it right across my
00:38:35
neck lasonia says she snatched it from
00:38:38
rat
00:38:38
and he grabbed her it was then that she
00:38:40
saw a knife on a small table
00:38:43
there was no thought went through my
00:38:44
head i just grabbed the knife
00:38:46
i swung it i don't know if i hit him in
00:38:50
the shoulder i don't know if i hit him
00:38:51
in the chest
00:38:52
but when they made contact with him he
00:38:54
said oh b you don't effed up now
00:38:57
and i knew i knew then i better i better
00:39:00
leave
00:39:02
when lasonia left the house she claims
00:39:04
rat was still alive
00:39:06
after throwing the knife in a lawn
00:39:07
service truck she went to her old
00:39:09
neighborhood
00:39:10
and got high i knew it was hurt but i
00:39:13
didn't know how bad
00:39:14
i just kept asking everybody y'all
00:39:16
seeing rat it was like no
00:39:18
so i really didn't think anything of it
00:39:21
rat never came to find her
00:39:22
and lasonia spent the night in a crack
00:39:26
house
00:39:30
i'm reporting that um someone may be
00:39:32
stabbed in the house
00:39:33
why do you think someone's been stabbed
00:39:35
yeah a friend of his he
00:39:37
got a phone call his nephew's calling
00:39:39
him and saying that um
00:39:40
it's a possibility that he had got
00:39:42
stabbed by his wife
00:39:44
when i woke up i just happened to look
00:39:46
out of the window and there was police
00:39:47
tape
00:39:48
right by my front door and there was a
00:39:51
crowd starting to gather and the police
00:39:53
had blocked off the road
00:39:55
bernie's body was found on the floor in
00:39:57
the master bedroom
00:39:59
it was a stab wound to the chest
00:40:01
penetrated i believe
00:40:03
three to four inches in a downward
00:40:06
[Music]
00:40:08
motion
00:40:10
word traveled quickly that rat was dead
00:40:13
it was an absolute surprise because this
00:40:15
is a neighborhood where
00:40:17
nothing ever happens officers
00:40:20
immediately looked for lasonia
00:40:22
she was found and arrested at a crack
00:40:23
house on an outstanding warrant
00:40:26
she kept asking us that all this is
00:40:28
about is
00:40:29
that all this is about and kept trying
00:40:31
to see if there's anything else
00:40:34
detectives ask lasonia what happened
00:40:36
being back we had an argument yesterday
00:40:39
and i walked out the house that was
00:40:40
yesterday afternoon there's a lot more
00:40:42
to it than just walking out of the house
00:40:45
what did you do to him
00:40:48
[Music]
00:40:50
i don't know
00:40:58
at first she was denying anything happen
00:41:01
and typically started laying out the
00:41:03
facts of what we knew
00:41:05
about the phone calls how he was found
00:41:07
and eventually she told us what happened
00:41:11
i regret it but i don't even have skills
00:41:14
to cry
00:41:15
i don't because he's beating me so much
00:41:23
[Music]
00:41:31
detectives a detailed confession she
00:41:34
didn't really have anything good to say
00:41:36
about
00:41:37
it she set the responsibility and gave
00:41:39
her version of
00:41:41
what happened painting herself to be a
00:41:44
bigger victim than we could
00:41:46
find ever being recorded investigators
00:41:49
knew lasonia had a history of violence
00:41:51
they focused on her intentions that
00:41:53
night
00:41:54
have you ever talked about man i got
00:41:56
nothing else to do i'm gonna have to
00:41:57
kill this guy
00:41:58
no but i've said to myself you know
00:42:00
saying i don't know what else i'm gonna
00:42:01
do
00:42:02
i never thought about actually killing
00:42:04
this man
00:42:06
that would be my last that'd be the last
00:42:07
thing i would want to do
00:42:10
i don't believe she intended to kill him
00:42:12
i believe she intended to hurt him
00:42:15
and figured it'd just be like all the
00:42:17
rest she'd cut him he wouldn't prosecute
00:42:20
if i could take it all back i would do
00:42:22
it different
00:42:23
there's nothing nothing in this world
00:42:26
that i think is worse than taking
00:42:28
another human being's life
00:42:29
the sonia was charged with second degree
00:42:31
murder
00:42:33
second degree murder is a life felony
00:42:36
the maximum punishment that you can get
00:42:38
is life in prison i didn't want to go to
00:42:40
trial
00:42:41
and so i just went ahead and i took a
00:42:43
plea bargain
00:42:48
[Music]
00:42:53
knowing that she got at least 18 years
00:42:55
with her violent past
00:42:57
that makes me feel like i got the job
00:42:59
done
00:43:00
lasonia's daughter janelle had been
00:43:02
getting to know her mother better before
00:43:04
she went to prison
00:43:05
i can't cry no more really i'm used to
00:43:08
her not being in my life i'm used to her
00:43:10
being
00:43:10
in the jail in the prison and everything
00:43:13
when i need somebody to talk to when i'm
00:43:14
just going through some things
00:43:16
i don't have nobody to talk to it just
00:43:19
makes me mad because it's like you could
00:43:20
have got out this situation
00:43:22
way before it even came to this point
00:43:24
janelle started to follow the familiar
00:43:26
path of claudette and lasonia
00:43:28
but today she's leading a different life
00:43:31
i told my mom i said mom i'm going to
00:43:32
school
00:43:33
and i'm going to get me a job i got
00:43:36
sisters that need a role model in their
00:43:37
life and i got to be there for them
00:43:39
i want to be better than you and better
00:43:41
than what you did
00:43:43
lasonia who will be released from prison
00:43:45
in 16 years
00:43:46
says she will change too they're going
00:43:49
to look back they're not going to see me
00:43:50
as
00:43:51
being a murderer or doing 18 years in
00:43:53
prison
00:43:54
they're going to see me as doing
00:43:56
something to change
00:43:58
somebody's lives somewhere i know this
00:44:01
i know it without a shadow of a doubt i
00:44:03
[Music]
00:44:06
know
00:44:09
you

Badges

This episode stands out for the following:

  • 80
    Most shocking
  • 80
    Most controversial
  • 75
    Most heartbreaking
  • 75
    Most unpredictable

Episode Highlights

  • The Massacre of the Lillylid Family
    On April 6, 1997, Natasha Cornett and her friends committed a horrific crime against a devout family.
    “This is one of the worst murders that I've ever witnessed in the last 30 years.”
    @ 01m 54s
    January 12, 2021
  • The Group's Descent into Darkness
    Natasha and her friends spiraled into destructive behaviors, dabbling in the occult and violence.
    “Everything that we did though it was very destructive, it was all self-destructive.”
    @ 05m 25s
    January 12, 2021
  • Natasha's Troubled Past
    Natasha Cornett's early life was marked by tragedy and turmoil, leading to her eventual downfall.
    “I started cutting because I was going through a rough time with my mom.”
    @ 05m 35s
    January 12, 2021
  • Plea Bargain Decision
    Facing severe charges, Natasha and the others accept a plea deal to avoid the death penalty.
    “We were very clear with her that if she accepted this deal... she would probably spend the rest of her life in prison.”
    @ 25m 03s
    January 12, 2021
  • Natasha's Regret
    Natasha expresses deep remorse for her actions and the impact on others.
    “I regret it but I don’t even have skills to cry.”
    @ 29m 31s
    January 12, 2021
  • Lasonia's Violent Past
    Lasonia reflects on her tumultuous relationships and the cycle of violence she endured.
    “I don’t believe she intended to kill him. I believe she intended to hurt him.”
    @ 42m 12s
    January 12, 2021
  • A New Beginning
    Lasonia is determined to change her life and be a role model for her sisters.
    “I got sisters that need a role model in their life”
    @ 43m 36s
    January 12, 2021
  • A Promise to Change
    Lasonia, set to be released in 16 years, vows to transform her life.
    “They're going to see me as doing something to change”
    @ 43m 54s
    January 12, 2021

Episode Quotes

  • Natasha Cornett has informed him that she is the daughter of Satan.
    Women Behind Bars - Season 2, Episode 12 - Natasha and LaSonya - Full Episode
  • I need out, I need help, I can't breathe.
    Women Behind Bars - Season 2, Episode 12 - Natasha and LaSonya - Full Episode
  • I didn't know what to do after witnessing something that atrocious.
    Women Behind Bars - Season 2, Episode 12 - Natasha and LaSonya - Full Episode
  • I regret it but I don’t even have skills to cry.
    Women Behind Bars - Season 2, Episode 12 - Natasha and LaSonya - Full Episode
  • If I could take it all back I would do it different.
    Women Behind Bars - Season 2, Episode 12 - Natasha and LaSonya - Full Episode
  • I want to be better than you and better than what you did.
    Women Behind Bars - Season 2, Episode 12 - Natasha and LaSonya - Full Episode

Key Moments

  • Plea for Mercy00:21
  • Satanic Influence02:09
  • Descent into Darkness05:18
  • Murder Charges24:11
  • Plea Deal24:56
  • Cycle of Violence36:56
  • Regret and Reflection42:20
  • Role Model43:36

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