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What was going through your brain of like, what's the next step here? I had a few false starts. I wanted to be a
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Christian rock star. That's what I wanted to be. So, I was in a few different few
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different bands uh in high school, which I do talk about on the album a little bit.
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>> Yeah, you've got a great bit about the the rock band. Yeah, and so I was hoping
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that would take off and you know, we would tour or something. College was not really on my mind. Neither one of my
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parents went to college. I know for some kids it's kind of the expected thing. Right.
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>> Um wasn't really uh for me. And my parents didn't really push it. They never discouraged it.
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They didn't push it and I think they just didn't know you know, even how you would go about
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that, probably. I I don't know.