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well hello hello hello we are back for another episode Another Day Another ex homeschoolers club and uh today I'm
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joined by my friend Morgan uh I've known Morgan for it feels like a long time um but uh
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I don't know how long actually to be honest with you so thank you for for joining me it's funny because this show
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has definitely brought a lot of people out of the woodwork who I would have never I don't want to say I would have
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never reached out to them I always viewed you as too cool for school too cool for the homes School community and
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so there's a lot of people in my life who I'm just like I'm like they were too
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cool for The Homeschool Group they would never listen to this they would never you know whatever and uh anyway that fun
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but it has brought us back together um to some degree so thank once again for being here and thank you again for
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joining me yes I know I have really enjoyed watching all the videos I think because I've known so many people since
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we were so young um and so when I first saw the account pop up I was like no way
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click it's true you have got to be kidding me so I don't know if you remember but Hannah amiko she was my
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best friend in high school her and I are still really close she lives in Australia now her husband's from there
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and they have a bunch of kids um but I messaged her and was like look at this everyone's back on here and so she's
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been wa she watched it too and I don't know it was just funny it just brought
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brought back a bunch of memories from stuff that's awesome yeah I love the I love the amicos I knew them mostly
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because of church so and that's how I feel like I I mostly knew you I feel like because of church um but we also
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did go to group Solutions together y we did and I was a part of acheve for a little bit too I was just very my
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parents would have to like make me go and make me do the school work like I couldn't even tell you what class I took
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at a chief I have no idea what I took so give me a little rundown of like your homeschool experience like were you
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homeschooled all the way through you know college what what it look like from preschool to gosh okay do you remember
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the school vccs in Ventura Ventura County Christian a little private home or private school um it was really tiny
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like in my my class it was like we had grades that were together like second and third were always together fourth
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and fifth were always together um I went to that school from uh gosh maybe like first or second until till fifth grade I
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think um and then before that we had done like some home school some online like K12 type
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stuff um junior high or when my parents pulled me out of the the private school I went to public school in
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Oxnard that was very eye opening um my parents pulled me about halfway through the school year because it was just
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really really intense so I did public I did private school public school uh online school and then for junior high I
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was strictly at home um doing home school and so that's probably when you and I would have met was more during
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that time yeah um especially because we started doing group Solutions um I think
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I think when I was in junior high um so and I did seventh SE no I'm sorry I did Sixth and eighth grade I was
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only in junior high for two years because seventh grade was like that weird review year and my parents let me
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text out of it I was um a really big Troublemaker during my junior high and for most of my high school years so my
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parents really just did not want to put me in um school because I was just gonna
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make really worse decisions so um yeah worse than I would have even made as a homeschooler um so
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for junior high and high school I did home school but I did like co-ops and I would do online school um I did uh like
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a lot of block work I was always like at least a week ahead in school so if something cool came up I could leave and
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go do whatever yeah more than more than anything probably what you saw with my like too school for too cool for school
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whatever it was not that it was insecurity and it was me trying to figure out what the heck what the heck
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am I doing who am I I think that was kind of all of us though I mean you know the high school the teenage years in
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general Junior High High School are just like already just super awkward it doesn't matter home school public school
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whatever but yeah you're just like I don't know you're figuring yourself out
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and like I think there's a lot of false confidence sometimes like totally with
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with people and yeah I don't know it's it definitely I don't know there's just
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it there's a there's a weirdness to it and I think being a homeschool kid also
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like like you said you came from doing private school public school too so think that also when you come into it
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kind of at a later stage and there's so many people who already have known each
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other for forever it can sometimes be hard because you're to some degree you're like the odd man out well and my
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parents were were very different we they were I mean we grew up traditional in the sense that like I don't know my mom
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stayed home for the most part and like in those types of ways but like my mom and dad were um they were strict when
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they needed to be strict and weren't strict when they felt like they didn't
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need to be strict whereas my like perception of a lot of The Homeschool parents and I think this is why I would
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get in trouble a lot by like teachers at and teachers parents at group Solutions
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and other things was that I just wasn't used to having things be so strict and
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so on a leash like when my when I was 16 I asked my parents if I could go to Uganda on a mission strip and they were
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like sure go ahead no big deal and then when I came home there was something that happened there that me meant a lot
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to me and I really wanted to get it tattooed so they took me when I was 16 to get this tattoo in a garage in ohh
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high like there weren't there weren't a lot of like homeschool parents that were
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letting their kids at 16 get tattoos and I remember when that when I got it it caused like an uproar at group Solutions
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like it was a problem so I think there were I always felt kind of like judged but in my judgment from the
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homeschoolers like traditional homeschoolers it was like this Rebellion like like I don't know if I even like
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you guys anyway so it was like a weird mix for me of trying to figure out what my what I I just didn't know where I fit
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so yeah no I feel that because yeah I mean a lot of us were super rule follower like uh yeah my my parents the
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rule was no tattoos until like as soon as you get a tattoo it's your indication
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that you can afford life on your own so it was like which is so dumb um and uh I
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I mean I get like no tattoos in high school that makes sense to me but yeah I was like in college I don't know I I had
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friends who wanted to get me a tattoo for my birthday and I was like I was like guys we can't do this and they're
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like dude you just get it like on your butt or something it's like not a big
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deal and I'm so glad I didn't because uh I ended up having some health issues and
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like and my parents had to see my butt at some point after I was an adult and like that was yeah it would it just
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would have been a whole thing it wouldn't have HD itself as well as you would have hoped it would have so
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exactly that's that's they would picked you up the insurance immediately exactly
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exactly so um yeah so it was like definitely a sign of that but I think there was just so many homeschool kids
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where yeah there was just like these rules that were just I don't know and and sometimes they
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weren't even necessarily the parents inflicting the rules but it was just as
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a as a social group there was just so much expectation of like well this is how kids act and this is what we do and
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like all that kind of thing because I mean like to your point you got a tattoo and yeah it was like whoa she's really
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young to have a tattoo that's really surprising you know and kind of thing and it's like first time I smoked a
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cigar and like people found out about it it was like oh he's smoking now it's
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like that's I don't know 17 years old you know it's like I was oh it was not a big deal you know I
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didn't hear about it if I would have heard about it i' been like Jacob let's
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go so we all had our little rebellious things um totally but yeah well that's
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it's it's interesting to hear like you said that it's just like feeling kind of
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like that Outsider was interesting and I feel like the I I knew you more through
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church and youth group and that definitely felt like in comparison and I've been trying to think back of like
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you know interactions we've had and things like that and um and I'm like at
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group Solutions I feel like you were like a fish out of water and then you put us in like the youth group setting
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and you were much more like you had public school friends and you were like one of the cool kids and things like
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that where like I felt more out of my element in that place but it I don't know it was just more obvious that you
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were more comfortable in that situation does that seem relatively true yeah for sure especially because I'm a huge
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extrovert I needed to be around a ton of people and I think that was a lot of times what my um yeah because at group
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at group solution I really only had one friend Michael sandal was my my closest friend and he was really the only friend
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I had the whole time when I was there that's the only person I'd hang out with
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um because his parents were also just super chill and relaxed yep I could wear twopiece at their house it wasn't weird
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yeah um and and um yeah so at youth group it was a better mix of kids for me because it was just kind of like okay I
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I don't feel so like it's um so honed in on like what is your type of school that you do it's
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more about your relationship with L so right yeah I was definitely and Hannah and I we were the queens of all the
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pranks going on so that was another reason why I was very comfortable was because there was always a plan at hand
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that we were executing so it we had to be there so the plan would take form so okay give me give me an example of that
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because I'm trying to remember pranks now oh gosh um let's see okay do you remember Drake
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Drake the youth leader Drake big really tall super BFF guy yeah he was kind of behind the scenes like for somebody of
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that stature he was very behind the scenes scenes mhm uh and he drove this really tiny little white truck like I
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don't know how he fit inside of it uh like it's like okay you know on Despicable Me how Gru gets out of this
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tiny little car that's like what it always reminded us of well um he he had gotten a girlfriend or something and
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both Hannah and I thought that that was like the funniest thing ever I have no idea why we in high school like I have
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no clue so we decided uh we knew that he was going to be taking her like on a date or something like that after you
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group one night so during youth GP We snuck out to the parking lot got in his car and we had
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found like a big thing of powder and maybe like in the nursery or something and what we ended up doing was we put
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powder all under the hood of the truck and then all in the air conditioning vents in his car so that when they went
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to go on their date they just like became these ghosts right well when we had turned the the AC on to so that it
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was like inevitable they had to that was one another one was uh back in the day he was kind of like
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an OG uh youth leader from I think harp but do you remember Danny Jack yeah okay
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so Danny Jack was supposed to be taking a group of kids on I think they were going on a mission trip to like Mexico
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or something so Hannah and I we went fishing the night before and we got we caught a fish couple of fishes and we
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put it in the roof of the van so that the whole car I D they had to smell dead fish the whole time wow so that was
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another one we ended up Hannah and I went we we went a little too far with some of our pranks another one was a kid
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that we had met at youth grip I'm not going to give you his name because who
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knows if the cops are still looking for us we went and completely vandalized the
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front of their house one time with like oatmeal and like powder toilet paper anyways we didn't know that that day his
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mother had gone under surgery and was on really really heavy medication and she saw us through the
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window doing it well she came out butt naked and chase us around the neighborhood like I'm talking butt
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naked and uh so we got to watch her Chase's butt naked and the cops ended up
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like coming because the kid had called the cops on us I ended up falling while being chased by this naked woman and
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breaking my wrist so much so that the bone was like sticking out of my wrist and it was a disaster an absolute
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disaster so that was our final that was one of our final ones but yeah we were always we were always doing something oh
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my did I get a lot out of youth group spiritually maybe not but prank wise I got a lot of ideas so yeah no youth
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group wasn't great it was an incubator for friends which was to amazing and and
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the camps were like topnotch so fun yeah I always had so much fun I think we had
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one of the better youth group experience Es as just far as like I don't know the
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stuff that we were able to do was crazy we yeah um well like the guys we got in trouble because is this the oiled pigs
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yeah um I was just thinking about this because I just went to the fair and so we bought pigs and we yeah we we did
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like a pig wrestle thing and Peta please don't come for me like we loved those
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pigs we built a big mud pit in a backyard um we and we basically just played with them there was no tackling
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there was no no one killed any of them but didn't it end up in the news so yeah
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so you you say nobody killed them that's actually not true um but but basically
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the premise of the night was like we had these pigs we did a pig wrestle and then
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we had uh someone come in who was a trained kill Hunter and they taught us how to properly like how to properly gut
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a pig basically and then we roasted it and ate it for dinner so like there is a ending to it however it wasn't like we
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were out here torturing pigs like we we played with them we had fun with them people it was professionally done
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professional and yeah woke up the next day to like being on the front page of Santa Barbara times or something like
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that and then Peta was basically calling for all of us to be arrested and put in
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jail for torturing pigs and stuff and uh yeah it was not it was not a good time it was not fun um to
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I remember seeing it in the news and it was like Caleb Amo and and Kaden golden were on in the picture where you could
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like see them I didn't realize that you guys had actually like been killed the
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yeah yeah no and that was yeah and it was not meant to be a very like public event sound brutal yeah
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no I mean Mr Golden is the one who came in and taught us like here's how you do
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it here's the proper procedure and all that stuff it was really inter yeah and
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he's like a legit like he knows how to do all that stuff so he is a hunter yeah
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he he knows what he's doing and so yeah that was an interesting experience to
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say the least and so anytime anything happened with animals after that there was always the joke that Peta was going
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to come after us because um yeah like a bird would get trapped in a room and we'd have to get it out you know
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something like that it' just always be like peta's gonna come for us but if you
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did that here like somewhere out here in the South they'd be like no big deal
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absolutely yeah you and I now live you live in Kentucky I live in Tennessee and yeah it I just went to the fair and
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literally watched they had a pig wrestle and it was like kids and it was like how
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fast can you grab the pig and hold on to it and I'm like that was much more I don't want to say harmful but
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yeah it was much more harmful of those animals than like what we did and so it's just interesting and yeah we ended
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up making it on I want to say we made it on Fox News at one point and yeah the guy was like um yeah the guy was just
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like it's you know we did that as kids like it's not a big deal kind of a thing
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so yeah is so funny that is see those are some good times those are stories that you can't
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make up that yeah exactly it's yeah it's one of those stories that it's it's good
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to pull out at a party when you're meeting new people like oh yeah you want to hear about the one time Peta tried to
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put me in jail like you know who's got a story like that right you're like I may
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have been homeschooled but I lived a freaking good life exactly exactly and I ate good too um yeah
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toally but anyway bringing it back a little bit to The Homeschool world so yeah so after high school so you were
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homeschooled all the way through high school um I do have a high school diploma as well so just for everyone
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knows that's is something people ask me so do you actually have a diploma of
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course I do are you kidding me I do too I do too yeah it's an official piece of
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paper um but uh how was it like transitioning After High School like what did you did you go to college you
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did why wh at one point like what did what did the transition look like after high
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school um so okay so after high school so I graduated when I was 17 I graduated in
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200 2014 um yeah 2014 um K and I we always my husband and I always go back and forth because he
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graduated 2015 but he's technically he's older than me by three months and so I
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always tell him like nah you just weren't as smart as me um but yeah so 2014 so and then I went to Y I graduate
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I went to Y 2015 September 2015 and then in that Gap I traveled I traveled to Europe by myself and met with a friend
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in um Austria we kind of backpacked around a couple of countries for I don't
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know gosh maybe like three or four weeks um that was a blast oh my gosh uh and then really the main thing I
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did was I worked I worked three jobs um I had worked at lure uh the restaurant in Ventura from the time I
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was 15 like once I could get a work permit I had friends that already worked there and pretty much had just a job
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instantly which was really cool um so I worked at lure from uh in in that period
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of time as well and then I was so I was working at Starbucks in the mornings I was opening at 3:30 I would get off at
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12 I would go pick up these girls that I was tutoring in the afternoons I'd tutor them for like two
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hours hour and then I'd go to work at lure and I do the clothing shift at lure
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wow um so I was working a ton honestly I was just really bored um I had a boyfriend at the time that broke up with
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me that crushed my heart uh so you know I just threw myself into work it's like
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so stupid um but uh yeah so that was kind of what I did and then crazy enough I was working at Starbucks one day this
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group of guys came in and I was like who are these people they are dirty and gross looking totally judging them and
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then turns out I had been kind of like throwing around the idea of ywam but it like wasn't totally sold yet and
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whatever well it turns out these gross dirty dudes were W whammers from the Los Angeles base um and the biggest thing at
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that base was it was a base for skaters basically I'm not a skater by any means
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but that um group they just encouraged me like hey if you're interested in it
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you might as well look into it like what do you have to lose and it was kind of like you know what you're right what do
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I have to lose so that night I actually invited all of them over without my parents knowing to come over and I made
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everyone tacos and we had a big old taco dinner right and um so it was just kind of like
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this like crazy God coincidence that happened um I still know all of them which is really
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cool um and ultimately when I went that was in the beginning of of the year in 2015 my school started at ym in
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September of 2015 and that's where I met my husband was in my DTS my first school for those
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people who are not super familiar with ym right it's youth with a mission youth
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with a mission yep and it's basically okay so how the school's broken up is
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you have um three months of a lecture phase so I lived three months um at the base uh at the Lo Los Angeles base on y
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base and um you just basically basally go through like intensive Bible classes making sure that you
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know what it is you're talking about a lot of people come in with a lot of trauma and things that they need to work
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through um so they make sure that we touch on those things and whatever no one's perfect we're all coming in with
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crap let's be honest um and then after that they pray about like a place for
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everyone to go to sometimes schools will split it up so like half of the school will go somewhere another half of the
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school will go somewhere else our entire school was a total of 16 of us and we all ended up going to the same place so
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when I tell you this you're going to be like wow that sounds luxurious it was
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not luxurious it was horrible during some parts um but we ended up going for the three Monon Outreach to um St
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Vincent in the Grenadine Islands so it's like you have Barbados up here and then
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it's the archipelago of islands just underneath Barbados so absolutely gorgeous stunning I think I only got to
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go to the water three times like I'm still bitter about that it's the most
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beautiful ocean in the whole world and I touched it like three times um but yeah
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so we just did we did our Outreach there oh and but then sorry I forgot this it's
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important the beginning of my Outreach actually started in La we lived two weeks in a tent on Skid Row that's
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pretty crazy yeah yeah so that was pretty gnarly um so yeah so my husband was just another one of the students in
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school you are not allowed to date you are not allowed to like each other you are not allowed to share intentions so
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um yeah obvious we waited until afterwards too yeah that was that's something i' yeah I've really because
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I've had a number of friends now do ywam stuff and some of them come out in relationships or really quickly after
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come out in relationships a few of them have resulted in some marriages um a lot
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of them have resulted in div very bad breakups um yeah uh and I I think it's
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interesting because like to me it's like very much uh I don't want to say it obviously you
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found your partner and that's like you're G you're not gonna offend me go
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ahead like I think I've seen it all myself yeah you're putting kids you putting young adults in a situation
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where they are also kind of isolated in a lot of ways where it's like they're
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just with each other and you kind of get that you get that like Cabin Fever kind
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of a thing and so I'm never surprised when people come out and they're like oh
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I'm like so in love with this person and then six months later they're like out
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in the real world again and they're like do I actually even like this person or
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is this person even the person that I think I know them as um and so that's I
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don't know it's just always really interesting because I've just seen
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people go in come out and within months they're like engaged married like doing
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the thing totally um you guys dated for quite a while I feel like after yam no no nope we're I'm just gonna tell you
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where everything you just said um no but I have seen every single situation that
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you have said I have seen every single one and also 10 other variations we you talk about off screen but
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um we okay so we met met September 2015 our school ended March 2016 we started dating and
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we did a secondary school as well at y la so we dated um in that second school and the uh second school was all
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on um Ministry uh it's called somd Ministry School of leadership and Ministry development um because we knew
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we always knew we wanted to be business owners of some kind so it was really cool to be able to like incorporate both
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of those things anyways long story but um we dated through that school that school
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ended March April May June end of June and then I moved here to Kentucky so I was like you are not getting away
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from me um and we dated in Kentucky uh got engaged January 2017 married June 2017
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and we moved back to California um a week before our wedding so it was it was quick yeah yeah so a year and a half
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from the time that we met till we were married okay so I take it all back back all of it and then but we
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waited a while before we had well yeah a while for we waited like almost four years before we had our first baby so
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well and I think it comes down to also like your intentions of like continuing to get to know somebody and you know I'm
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I'm married as well like you guys got married about a year before me uh it sounds like and yeah it's like but you
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continue to grow you evolve as people right and so it's it's all about the
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intention of like you know is this my person am I going to you know just walk with them through some of this
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stuff you know it's like people go through changes and that's okay totally
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you know I wake up next to a person that I'm I'm not the same person I was five
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years ago or almost six years ago at this point that you know got married so it you know it's yep I get it and I got
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married at 22 you know we got married super young uh relative to a lot of people and you know and I think that's
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also a big thing that sometimes people push back on to is just like oh how do you know and it's like how do you know
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yeah how do you know how do you not know yeah I mean sometimes really that is it
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it's like how do you not know yeah for him and I we are because our Outreach
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was pretty like um I don't know there was some really we experienced some really weird stuff on our
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Outreach um both him and I were the two extroverted so we were paired to do most
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things together because we were like the ones that are constantly being volunteered to go preach at this church
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or to go sing here I I don't sing or to do do this or to lead this or to stand
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on a truck with a microphone and go yelling down the island so it it's like we we're kind of like destined to be
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best friends because we just kind of had to be but then within that because we had to do so many hard things it was
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like oh we like we're got a really good team okay okay so and Ken had a girlfriend at the time so that also kind
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of held me off quite a bit because I didn't want to ever like do anything to
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disrespect her right yeah um but uh then when he went home after the DTs was done
00:27:30
the first school was done he broke up with her and then called me like a week later was like I can't do this without
00:27:35
you and I was like oh thank God because I can't do this without you so so and
00:27:41
that's kind of how we operate in our marriage too we are best friends first always I mean we even parent like best
00:27:49
friends that are parenting their children I don't know that might on weird um but at the end of the day it's
00:27:54
like yeah I'm married to Ken but Callen is my best friend like he's who I want
00:27:59
to tell everything too so yeah um so one of the things too that you and I had kind of we chattered a little bit about
00:28:06
this previous to recording was like you had this idea of like I'm never going to
00:28:12
get married I'm never going to have kids and lo behold that is uh not your reality um not the case at all so like
00:28:19
what was that kind of shift for you I I understand the the getting married one a
00:28:24
little bit easier because sometimes it just takes that right person to click in you but the kids I think is a is a a
00:28:29
whole another layer to that so yeah share a little bit about that and like what did that look like and how did that
00:28:35
change kind of come to be and um I think because I have such a large personality
00:28:39
I'm very vocal about everything I I don't keep secrets about myself I think
00:28:44
I always felt like with especially the getting married part that it would just be really hard to find someone who could
00:28:50
put up with that um and Ken's really good at it because he's super patient
00:28:55
and he not only puts up with it but he puts me in my place very graciously so for him it was literally
00:29:02
the night before I met him I prayed to the Lord before I went to please do not bring me anyone because I don't want
00:29:08
this to be the case like I don't want to look like the ym couple well well just
00:29:12
kidding it's exactly what happened so um I had always told my parents like I am
00:29:17
not getting married I am not going to college and I'm G to be covered in tattoos and the only thing I stuck to
00:29:23
with that was being covered in tattoos so um yeah the kids the kids thing really I don't know I think I'm sure you
00:29:33
experienced this too it's like especially with marriage I think you just start to soften
00:29:38
towards people when you've been married to someone you say like okay like I I am called to love you and I'm called
00:29:47
to wake up each day and to choose you and it's I mean your spouse is so cute
00:29:52
that you're like God I wonder what we look like mixed together and like as a
00:29:55
woman I like started having those thoughts to or was like like hm I wonder like what this would look like so it's
00:30:01
not that it was just like some spiritual thing that happened that's not really
00:30:05
what it was honestly was more like uh curiosity at first and then when we really started talking about it then I
00:30:13
was scared I was terrified it's like okay maybe we could have like one maybe
00:30:19
maybe we could have one um and yeah I don't know over time I think the Lord just really started working on my heart
00:30:26
of like okay so am I scared and really the the matter behind it was that I was just terrified I didn't want to have to
00:30:33
raise someone I didn't want to have that responsibility of making choices for
00:30:38
them before and after they were born like that's a lot to think about it's a
00:30:42
lot of things to have to do so um and I also think there's this stigma that like
00:30:48
when you start trying to have a baby that for everyone it's going to take a long time to get
00:30:55
pregnant and that was not my that has not been my experience like mine's almost the opposite where it's like it's
00:31:01
a blessing but it almost feels like uh I'm probably going to get a lot of hate
00:31:05
for this but it also feels kind of like a curse sometimes because it happens too
00:31:09
quick and too easy that it's like okay we're uh we have a three- yearold that's
00:31:14
our oldest and we're on our fourth kid like that's a little ridiculous um so I
00:31:19
was just thinking like when we started at first talking about and thinking about having kids it was going to take
00:31:23
like two years no I was pregnant in three weeks like it was shocking and my first pregnancy was identical twins so
00:31:31
add that on to that so it was just it was just yeah shocking and it every single pregnancy that I find out I'm
00:31:39
pregnant I'm like my gosh how did this happen well we know how it happens but
00:31:44
yeah um but yeah so it's just I don't think the shock Factor goes away but um
00:31:51
yeah and you're I think especially with the kids my heart has just changed so
00:31:56
much um just in being a parent and now realizing that like even how I view God is different based on being a parent
00:32:04
like I understand so many things now that were talked about in the Bible because it's like oh okay I get this
00:32:10
from like a parent perspective now of like why X YZ or why someone would have Grace on this or blah blah blah it's
00:32:17
just I don't know it's just a weird transition that happens so yeah that's interesting because I I think
00:32:25
that like man and I don't want to have kids and we never say never however yeah
00:32:30
it's pretty positive yeah we don't want to and and that's okay too yeah and
00:32:34
that's fine and um but yeah I think it's I I just I always tell myself I'm a
00:32:40
little bit more I feel just more like the cool Uncle person that I'm gonna have those people in my life um instead
00:32:47
you'll be a cool uncle and uh yeah exactly and so but yeah I think it's that is an
00:32:56
interesting thing to think think about of just like how it changes when you have a kid
00:33:03
um you know and just the way yeah exactly I mean that's what you hear right is everything changes and it's
00:33:09
like it's a very um and you won't understand it until you do it right um
00:33:15
true because there's nothing to compare it to like right literally nothing to I
00:33:20
I couldn't prep you enough if you guys decided if you come to me I'm G to be
00:33:24
like okay well I can give you some Spark Notes but it's still not going to be
00:33:29
it's different for everybody and um what's interesting too is you have also
00:33:35
yeah you baby number four is on the way and you have decided to homeschool at least one of your kids right if not all
00:33:42
of them uh probably probably all of them probably all of them okay yeah and so so
00:33:48
that has just started um because we're recording this we were supposed to record a week ago and uh life just kind
00:33:55
of kicked you in the butt um so you are what a week into homeschooling your kid now I am a week into
00:34:03
homeschooling um okay so my oldest okay so so everybody knows I have a three-year-old she's gonna be four in
00:34:09
December I also have a 2-year-old she's gonna be three in March and I have a
00:34:14
10-month-old he's going to be one in October and then I'm due with the fourth
00:34:18
and it's a boy we haven't announced it but I'll tell you guys it's a boy which
00:34:23
is awesome so it's like two and two how could we like so perfect um he is due in
00:34:30
I think like March end of March sometime so that's a lot of I mean that's a lot
00:34:35
of kids back toback it's like if we were going to put them in private school or
00:34:39
something like that that's so much money like affording private school these days
00:34:42
is like affording college and I don't want to pay for their college yeah it's
00:34:46
ridiculous so um okay so Haven is going to something kind of similar to I don't know it might be the same
00:34:54
idea as like um El Camino do you remember El Camino I do remember El Camino so it's a little bit of a mix of
00:35:01
both right at home in school at home in school um so she has a teacher that she reports
00:35:08
to uh to like turn in all of her stuff she goes there for Chapel for History Science art
00:35:17
um some like life skills stuff um so that's what her preschool so she's there
00:35:22
from two days a week Tuesday and Thursday and then I'm then the one teaching her at home Monday Wednesday
00:35:30
Friday um and that's so that's really cool uh and the place she goes to is
00:35:34
like a little Christian Academy it's through the church that my husband and uh his family used to go to when they
00:35:38
were little um so that's helpful it's not it's not as overwhelming for my
00:35:43
brain I'm very disorganized I do not do great with like a plan or a schedule
00:35:48
most of the time so I think having someone for her because she is just very TI Bay um to kind of give her the
00:35:57
overvie and to have her come home and give me the like okay this is what we're doing
00:36:02
is a better fit for especially my personality in the season of life where we still have a bunch of little kids at
00:36:10
home and more just coming along so yeah um and she's very social as well so it's
00:36:16
good it gives her the ability to go take orders from somebody else for a little bit make a bunch of friends and then
00:36:22
come home and then we can do the harder stuff at home so yeah so what is teaching at home then look like right so
00:36:30
obviously you've kind of agreed to this is the curriculum that they're using and
00:36:35
so like yeah what is what does it look like how does it differ from like I mean I only I only ask that because like my
00:36:42
mom we would buy curriculum but it was she kind of put together like okay we're
00:36:46
going to do this math and we're going to do this science we're going to do that
00:36:49
which is very it's a little bit different than having someone kind of set out this like here's here's what
00:36:55
we're doing and you're going to help us on Monday Wednesday Fridays so at home
00:37:00
um we're doing math stuff uh math think it what was the other thing literature and I mean with a preschooler
00:37:09
um she's she's very very smart she really is she'll be smarter than me by
00:37:13
like second grade probably um we we're just doing small things right so I think with preschool we'll be
00:37:19
learning uh obviously how to count to higher than I think maybe 50 or something she's really interested in
00:37:26
learning about money she really wants be able to go and she's trying to figure
00:37:30
out what coin coins to use she wants to learn how to tell time um so I think it's just like normal kid things that
00:37:36
they're catching on to like oh Mom and Dad do this this is like a good life skill on top of us also being able to
00:37:43
apply it to um like uh subjects my goal with school this was something about this is something about school that I
00:37:51
very strongly dislike I really think a lot of school is a waste of time I think having to learn algebra I think having
00:37:57
to learn trigonometry these are all things that I had to do um I've never used any of that in my everyday life
00:38:04
some people might I'm not saying that we're not not going to teach those
00:38:07
things to our kids to an extent but I did um consumer consumer math whenever I was a senior in high school and I
00:38:14
honestly wish I would have done it all my years because it has served me so well to be able to know how to do my
00:38:20
taxes to write a check to pay bills to um do bookkeeping my husband's also in
00:38:25
finance too so for him those things that he did because he was also homeschooled
00:38:29
they have served him greatly and he doesn't even have a degree in finance and he's like doing incredible at the
00:38:35
bank so it's just things that like I really want to hone in on focusing on skills and things that can apply to
00:38:45
everything rather than just like one specific thing like oh you may become an engineer but probably not like unless
00:38:54
that she just like shows interest in it I wish somebody would have been like okay these are um certain things that
00:39:01
you could use in photography because now being a wedding photographer there are things that like I wish I knew how to do
00:39:06
better and uh how to keep clients and how to stuff like that but obviously we're not going to know what we're going
00:39:12
to do when we're older but still it's it's um things that I used um and a lot of un a lot of used
00:39:22
space that was wasted on other things hopefully that makes sense no that no that does because I mean you're
00:39:26
basically saying like you you want to play into your kid's passion there's obviously things that
00:39:32
any kid needs to know how to do right every kid needs to know how to read and write and they need to know how to do
00:39:36
two plus two equals four you know um and I yeah I trust me I get it um because yeah there's plenty of stuff that I'm
00:39:43
like h i bothered to learn this and I'm never going to use it um totally but you
00:39:47
sometimes you never know sometimes things do pop out but it's like whoa um but I did I also had parents who they
00:39:53
encouraged me to to you know hone in on the things that I like I liked music you
00:39:58
know I served on the worship team I I worked in a music studio I had like a billion in one guitars like I just like
00:40:07
that kind of stuff they really were like yeah encouraging me to to pursue those things because I was very passionate
00:40:13
about it right and same with like different histories and I've talked about this on previous episodes of like
00:40:17
being really into Pirates and studying Pirates and things like that it's like
00:40:21
that is where I think traditional education sometimes gets it wrong but it's I I think get wrong in the sense
00:40:28
that you're talking to a classroom of kids that are all very different and they have to create something that works
00:40:33
somewhat for everybody and that's just really hard you know and so regardless
00:40:38
of a kid that's in public school private school whatever it's like having mom and
00:40:42
dad who are just there to be like you're really into this let's just go all in on
00:40:46
it and be let's incorporate this yeah exactly like like you said your daughter
00:40:50
is really into like coins right now and like understanding how money works it's
00:40:54
like okay well that's interesting you know like let's just do that how when we
00:41:00
play cashier at home you know like let's do with real money she doesn't realize
00:41:04
it but it's math yeah exactly exactly and it's somewhat complicated math too
00:41:09
because it mean you're talking about things that just kind of have arbitrary
00:41:15
value to them um in a lot of sense like it doesn't I don't know money still
00:41:18
doesn't make a lot of sense to me can you tell um but well money is confusing
00:41:23
especially these days it's yeah yeah well and like you said like there are things that you now own your own your
00:41:30
own business and like there are plenty of things that you're like I wish I would have had some learning and some
00:41:37
education around these things that it would just put you in maybe that next level of whatever it is it would just
00:41:43
have set you ahead uh instead of having to basically play catchup now right yeah
00:41:49
yeah well and the funny thing is is that so I ended up going to like college for
00:41:53
a while I not not like what most people did but um when I was trying to figure out because I always um did some sort of
00:42:02
like Photo work even at group Solutions I actually took a um a photography class
00:42:07
and a Photoshop class at group Solutions it was always something I was super passionate about um but in when I got
00:42:14
home from Y and we were married and I was honestly just like in aoras and I just decided I was like you know I've
00:42:18
always loved makeup um I used to work backstage Fashion Week in La every now and then um because we had a bunch of
00:42:24
connections through um through y working with different models and stuff like that and that was something I thought
00:42:31
was really fun really cool it like provided a really unique perspective on like the beauty industry um so I ended
00:42:37
up actually going to sbcc and I got my license uh in to be an aesthetician so a lot of my learning in how to build a
00:42:47
clientele and how to deal with people on a client level actually came from um learning how to be an aesthetician which
00:42:55
is so funny because I hate being an aesthetician it was not what was meant for me I do not want to touch people's
00:43:02
gross faces like it it's just it was not it did not end up being what I desired
00:43:07
ultimately I desired to be a photographer still I should have just stuck with what I knew I loved but it g
00:43:12
that gave me um I I was able to transfer all of that over really well um so that
00:43:19
was cool I I like almost got a crash course in it just then used it for a different skill so yeah um
00:43:27
yeah so it it ended up working itself out but yeah I don't know just funny I
00:43:31
like had to try something that I was like I think I like this but just kidding I actually still want to do this
00:43:36
no I think that's and we're allowed to Pivot and change I mean I would to
00:43:40
originally be recording I wanted to do recording engineering or audio engineering excuse me which is like kind
00:43:46
of ultimately what I do now I'm podcast editor but like I wanted to work with
00:43:50
bands that was the thing and then I got there and I hated classes and I was like
00:43:53
okay I'm going to go to music business entertainment industry I want to manage
00:43:56
B that was the thing and then I got out and I was like it's really hard to break
00:44:00
into the music industry and then kind of fell into podcasting and all of the skills that I learn doing those things
00:44:07
all come into play with what I do currently and it's you're in the perfect
00:44:11
spot for it too that is true too but it's been interesting that that like because there were times where working a
00:44:21
dead end job and just like feeling like I wasted all this time and energy learning this stuff that I'm never never
00:44:27
going to use because I'm just stuck in the rabbit hole of serving people food
00:44:31
or working at a coffee shop or whatever been there ultimately it came out and now it's like okay now I get to use all
00:44:37
of these skills for what I want to do my passions now totally um and that's super
00:44:43
cool so and those are just extra skills that you have in your back pocket that every now and then if you need to whip
00:44:48
them out voila you've got it so exactly exactly and um so yeah I wanted to there's two places I want want to go I'm
00:44:57
I'm trying to figure out which place I want to go first let me go here first so
00:45:01
you you and your husband own a wedding photography company and um so shout that out really quick how can people find you
00:45:08
if they're looking um is it specifically in Kentucky do you guys travel I mean
00:45:12
for the right price most people do anything but we have traveled a lot yes this coming year I'm not traveling at
00:45:18
all because traveling after having a newborn I've done it this is my fifth this is my fifth wedding season
00:45:26
pregnant um I've been pregnant every year since 2020 so um yeah it's been a lot so this
00:45:33
coming year I have decided I'm I'm we're not traveling at all this coming year
00:45:36
but um so yeah Kentucky Tennessee Indiana Ohio really are like the best um places for us because we can
00:45:44
drive we're at like the most perfect spot in Kentucky to be able to reach all
00:45:49
the states around us within like an hour and a half two hours so um so that's
00:45:55
really nice but um yeah our page is called um you and me so it's like word you and then just the letter N me
00:46:02
photographs um and yeah we just built it off of um the fact that we we had an incredible experience with our wedding
00:46:11
photographer he was actually not a wedding photographer we fired our first wedding photographer because she was
00:46:17
just distracted all the time and um honestly really annoying to work with and um we uh ended up contacting a while
00:46:27
he was kind of like a an adventure wildlife photographer but I loved how he um edited and his perspective on life
00:46:33
was really cool and so he shot our wedding kind of from like a I don't know not from a wedding
00:46:41
perspective a normal one yeah so just gave us really interesting photos so um I love kind of like our inspiration I
00:46:48
remember when you guys got married and and the photos came out and I was like these are super cool shots I mean you
00:46:53
guys got married in a beautiful place you got married in Santa Barbara outside the the most beautiful location
00:46:59
absolutely gorgeous the cheapest location and it's that pretty it's so crazy how cheap it is I mean I got
00:47:05
married right outside of Ventura Hall uh City Hall and that's beautiful too exactly um and I'm amazed and people to
00:47:13
this day are like well how'd you do that I'm like well we literally I mean also I
00:47:17
didn't have people at my wedding it was just immediate family but literally we
00:47:21
called it the uh the uh Flash Dance uh wedding because like literally we just walked up did the thing took photos left
00:47:29
um didn't have to pay scent just was it just was and honestly that's the way to
00:47:34
do it and that's the thing that I actually love shooting the most is because there's no show there's no uh
00:47:41
there's nothing staged it's just two people who really love each other who
00:47:45
got married and they they just went did the thing so that's awesome well I'll
00:47:50
definitely I'm gonna link all of it in the show notes and stuff because oh thank yeah if you guys are looking for
00:47:55
wedding do you guys do anything beside wedding for photography or is it just primarily wedding photography I do
00:47:59
weddings um we do obviously couples and families I started really I love doing families especially now that I have kids
00:48:07
um I just have a um a different eye for shooting families now that I have my own
00:48:12
my own kids so um I don't know I like very wild natural Family Photos where kids are rolling in mud and having fun
00:48:21
so um yeah so we do mainly mainly families couples what okay so very cool yeah I I've only ever done three we call
00:48:31
them professional photo shoots with an actual like hired photographer that and the first one was with Becky Schwarz who
00:48:37
you know yeah oh yeah and she gave like I just did not know what I was doing and
00:48:43
she gave me the best piece of advice was just she was just like she we just were
00:48:48
we started laughing and she started telling jokes and all the stuff we were just hanging out and just very and those
00:48:52
are the photos that turned out the absolute best were just yeah it was there was no like okay you're going to
00:48:57
smile say cheesee like it was nothing like that it was just very like natural walking posing just like very spur of
00:49:04
the moment she snapped the photo kind of a thing and those just their authentic feeling um they give the best photos yes
00:49:11
absolutely so okay so the second place I wanted to go and this is kind of jumping
00:49:16
back into now that you have kids was is there a specific memory or event from your childhood whether it's
00:49:25
homeschooling days or not not that you are like wanting to maybe try to like replicate a little bit with your kids
00:49:32
some of the magic that uh your family had or things that you're just like I don't want to do that my parents did
00:49:38
that that was big no no those are good questions um you know we did a lot of really fun
00:49:49
um okay so we had a cabin in E my family did and we did that was mostly where like majority of our family
00:49:58
vacations happen we didn't ever go on like big crazy trips I think we did one
00:50:02
time um when I was 15 we we went to Hawaii as a family and that was super fun um but my best memories I think are
00:50:11
just from like simple family car rides and um honestly we would go on a bike ride most nights after dinner and just
00:50:22
my my parents never we never had to look perfect we were never expected to like be prim and proper at church like I I
00:50:30
think they just uh there was just a uh there was never too much pressure added onto anything and I think that's
00:50:38
what I appreciate the most looking back in my childhood is that nothing was ever
00:50:41
taken too serious and um I was only really expected to be a kid um and yeah they they helped us have we
00:50:52
had a great childhood honestly um we did all kinds of fun stuff we we my dad we have this running joke in
00:51:00
our family my dad is not super handy like really at all I'm being kind on here because just in case he watches
00:51:07
this but um we asked for a tree house we had a tree okay so keep that in mind we
00:51:13
had a tree uh in our backyard was huge and um we kept asking him like Dad we wouldd love to have a treehouse be so
00:51:21
fun so one day we come home we come home from doing something and he's like girls
00:51:26
guess what because we're all girls in our family I made you guys a treehouse
00:51:30
and we were like okay so we go in the backyard and it is this stupid corner of the house that has a tent or not a tent
00:51:37
a tarp that is hung like across this corner of the house and he's like this is your tree house and it was just like
00:51:46
I still just remember the um he was so proud of himself and we were so like you are so dumb why would you do this for us
00:51:55
but it just like the sil of like seeing your parents just like still enjoy being uh a kid and I really
00:52:05
think Ken was just saying this the other night with becoming a parent having your
00:52:08
own kids I think replicating their childhood you're also just kind of a whole time trying to replicate your
00:52:14
childhood because it's the best especially if you had a good childhood you just want to live through them
00:52:19
through everything yeah um and like even dropping Haven off at school for the first time last week I thought it was
00:52:25
going to be a mess and St and cry the whole time and honestly I was just so excited for her because I remember that
00:52:30
feeling of getting new shoes and getting to go make friends and I mean it's just
00:52:35
really exciting so more than anything I think we just don't want to put too much
00:52:40
pressure on them to do certain things they don't ever have to look perfect going to church the I mean we just they
00:52:49
have uh we have a property that has about three acres on it and we just set them free and let them go be fun and
00:52:56
wild and um I don't know I just want them to enjoy their childhood and look back and
00:53:04
be like Mom and Dad were fun like they got in the pool and like in the tiny little plastic pool that had a bunch of
00:53:09
grass and bird poop in it and still like had fun with us so yeah um in negative honestly
00:53:17
I I don't actually have a ton of negatives um obviously my parents wen't perfect
00:53:26
but they they really championed Us in and were um I mean there's not really much in my head at least that I remember
00:53:34
maybe if you would have asked me as a teenager probably G to come up with like a trillion things but um it's always
00:53:39
easier when you're in the middle of it to to be like oh Mom and Dad suck but
00:53:43
gosh they were I mean I remember even as a high school kid being like man Morgan's parents are cool they were cool
00:53:49
honestly and they my parents were always the the um they were always the house that wanted to host everything like they
00:53:57
loved having high schoolers over the junior highs over like it was just the Delight of their heart to host everyone
00:54:03
and to always have food for everyone and um our house also looked like um if this
00:54:09
is our house right across diagonally across the street was Ventura High so like my friends would get off of school
00:54:16
and come to our house to eat so like or like come on their lunch break to come over and hang out so it was fun like our
00:54:23
my mom and dad were always very just like yeah invite everyone over or like one of our family vacations we went to
00:54:31
um youbody and we went back country camping and I think I brought I brought James Andrew Ella Tiffany Josiah uh
00:54:40
Josiah's brother like a whole bunch of people that we just all packed in in a
00:54:44
my car and we just all went camping together on my family's vacation so like
00:54:50
they were always very um down for the party so yeah that's a good a good way to live because
00:54:58
I mean what I've realized more and more is like we only get one life to live
00:55:02
right and so it's just like you got to make the most of it you got to have fun
00:55:06
you gotta explore you gotta like it's okay to be a kid sometimes even as an adult it's okay to be a kid sometimes
00:55:14
and just do those things and um no that's super cool even as an adult you should always have a set of play clothes
00:55:20
I am a strong believer in that too so absolutely absolutely you kidding me yeah no uh I worked at a toy store a
00:55:29
couple years ago and that was like some of the most fun we did birthday parties and but those were some of the most fun
00:55:36
of all time because it was just like we just got to play and we got to play with
00:55:41
people and with kids and and kids can tell when you're like an adult and you're like they're just as enthralled
00:55:48
with whatever it is they're like you're cool like cuz you're just with it you
00:55:53
know you're just yeah you're just in it with they sniff out BS from like 12
00:55:57
miles away it's kind of ridiculous yeah yeah I had a client who we were on a
00:56:02
call and his daughter came in the room and we were chatting and and I had met her and we were we were chatting or
00:56:07
whatever and she had a stuffed animal and I was like oh can you tell me about your stuffed animal or whatever and you
00:56:12
know does it have a name does it you know favorite color all that kind of stuff and um and then I was like do you
00:56:17
want to meet my favorite stuffed animal and I went in the other room and I grabbed I have my monkey from when I was
00:56:23
a kid still it looks disgusting it's like gross looking um it's like bald it's
00:56:29
like missing an eye like it's disgusting looking and uh I showed her and she's
00:56:33
just like he's ugly and I was like well I've had him for a really long time like
00:56:38
I've had him for like nearly 30 years please but it's funny because whenever
00:56:42
we get on a call she now remembers me because of that and so because of your monkey because of my monkey and so it's
00:56:49
just yeah sometimes you just got to have that childlike Wonder still um to this day it's true Y and kids really open
00:56:55
your they really open your world up to a lot there's just so many things that I'm
00:57:00
like I I just like don't get to be a selfish person because my life is in servanthood to ultimately obviously
00:57:09
first to Ken but then to our kids and it's like you just you just do it I don't know but I'm still think most
00:57:16
people are like uh bitter I think a lot of moms are bitter once they go into motherhood but for me I'm like you just
00:57:21
got to roll with it like you just got to go for it because they're not going to
00:57:25
be three and four and my kids they have this cuss word that they've made up um
00:57:31
it's it's called a butt Fork I have no idea what that is but everybody is a
00:57:35
butt Fork behind closed doors and it's like even stuff like that it's hysterical hilarious like I'm not gonna
00:57:40
get after them for saying butt Fork it's freaking hilarious like that's so funny
00:57:45
yeah they keep things Lively yes well that's awesome and um well I I wanted to
00:57:52
say it one more time thank you so much for coming on and is there anything that in chatting has either sprung to
00:58:00
mind where you're like oh shoot I just remembered this story I got to share it
00:58:03
or uh any last words that you want to leave the people with man I don't know I um I don't miss
00:58:13
Ventura I'll tell you that California is my home state but Kentucky is my soul state so I know a
00:58:20
lot of people have wondered like oh why is she there like I love living here so if anyone's wondering um I cannot tell
00:58:25
you the of times I get asked that probably once a week by someone from Ventura uh so and that's not like a dig
00:58:32
at all it's just like this side of the country just is awesome like it's so fun
00:58:38
oh yeah but yeah I mean I don't know I'm I'm really thankful for for youth group and just
00:58:47
being able to make friends ultimately and um thankful that we had a an awesome church that we got to go to that for me
00:58:56
I mean looking back between CH youth group and ym like those were really big things that shaped my life and um I'm
00:59:04
thankful for the people that poured into me even when I was a little crapper so um yeah I don't know I just think there
00:59:12
that uh yeah that that time of life was better than what I was thinking it was when I was in it and obviously you
00:59:21
always look back with fond eyes eventually but um yeah I did not have a negative experience with homeschool or
00:59:29
youth group or any of those things so um I hope that we'll get to Foster something similar to that for our kids
00:59:36
so good yeah and if people are uh thinking about wanting to homeschool their kids obviously I'm like not that
00:59:42
far in but I have a ton of kids anybody can text me and ask me how it's going so
00:59:47
yeah no that's that's cool well yeah nothing nothing profound he that's okay not everything I
00:59:54
don't have advit for anyone everything has to be a TED talk you know yeah well
01:00:00
Morgan this has been awesome and I appreciate your time so much and um it's been great like catching up and
01:00:05
reconnecting with you and it's been it's been a little while so and we're
01:00:09
neighbors so who knows maybe we probably have the highest likelihood of actually
01:00:13
running into each other at some point it's true it's true and we love Nashville like Nashville coffee shops
01:00:18
are what we we go down there literally just to drink coffee so well cool well next time you're in town we'll go get
01:00:24
coffee do it yep I'd love to meet your wife so yeah all right well this has been the ex homeschoolers Club thank you
01:00:32
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01:00:56
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01:01:02
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01:01:08
great and uh until next time we'll see you all right peace [Music] [Music]